idk normal/hard but I assume thats very similar to solo
#lost-ark-discussions
low nebula
hell is much harder then solo
nova garden
Inferno modes are equalized gear so you’re on item level for the content. Also, they were specifically made to be very difficult “achievement” versions of the raid.
low nebula
hell valtan is few days prog
hell brel is a month
tulip surge
tulip surge
that sounds liek fun
nova garden
Adjusted mechanics, more mechs, faster attack patterns, etc
tulip surge
titles with icon are fairly rare
low nebula
yep
tulip surge
Adjusted mechanics, more mechs, faster attack patterns, etc
prob does a lot more dmg too I assume
nova garden
Yes
low nebula
it doesnt deal dmg, it just kills you
nova garden
They were specially made to be super amped up versions of the regular raid.
cunning mesa
titles with icon are fairly rare
half of them lost any value bcs they are too easy to achieve compared to newer raids
real basin
hell thaemine when
tulip surge
basically the ultimate raids from ffxiv
low nebula
akkan next no?
tulip surge
nova garden
Just made tfm equalized and you got hell thaemine
nova garden
basically the ultimate raids from ffxiv
I’ve never played ff
midnight marlin
tfm didnt introduce anything new tho
turbid oriole
is there recording of Samsung Odyssey giveaway
nova garden
tfm didnt introduce anything new tho
So?
low nebula
having to do all mech is something new enough
nova garden
I think you missed the point of what I was saying
low nebula
not many of current keklipses could do tfm on 1630 char without trans
turbid oriole
tfm didnt introduce anything new tho
OSU minigame when clash 
turbid oriole
Instead of buttons
midnight marlin
its project diva
low nebula
same thing
nova garden
ancient tundra
Lmao
turbid oriole
low nebula
midnight marlin
no
ancient tundra
Ye no
real basin
this is the clash on hell thaemine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3cWTxvyKpA
midnight marlin
big black >
tulip surge
@low nebula thank you 
low nebula
turbid oriole
its project diva
What's this
midnight marlin
low nebula
storm bronze
rip myself
swift tree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ90ClIWbIA
I literally posted this 3 hours ago
turbid oriole
I literally posted this 3 hours ago
Posting this now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ90ClIWbIA
low nebula
I literally posted this 3 hours ago
i know i reposted it once more cos i clicked osu bullshit above and it was really bad, so i closed that tab and previous one was this
low nebula
cookin scrolls
storm bronze
https://tenor.com/view/thaemine-kamen-lost-ark-eclipse-gif-2957237846286383708
kazeros butthole ,
real basin
why for make scroll, just do it without scroll 
swift tree
why for make scroll, just do it without scroll <:blobsip:491900337297555456>
because unlike you, CriErr ruins a raid run if they die
turbid oriole
Don't get hit
swift tree
Support dead = reset
swift tree
Don't get hit
low nebula
because unlike you, CriErr ruins a raid run if they die
thats why i have relic crisis evasion
so i can die twice in brel hard g2 prog and still survive till the end 😄
with relic one cd is 8 mins
buy my ring
low nebula
but i need gold
ancient tundra
Go raid then
burnt tree
WS doesnt need crit rate on ring, therefore its useless
low nebula
just buy not use
burnt tree
nuh uh
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-441666516964176409
look what i dropped today from gate and world boss frfr
storm bronze
what is love
burnt tree
swift tree
low nebula
i mean in last two days they dropped 10-20%
low nebula
director yaping
low nebula
i dont exactly understand the logic, but there has to be some
lunar hedge
https://tenor.com/view/thaemine-kamen-lost-ark-eclipse-gif-2957237846286383708
https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-looking-up-cat-look-up-kitten-look-up-gif-13486805289139588631
storm bronze
dead game
tulip surge
should I even bother lvling alts to 1600?
1620 definitly not yet, but I wonder about 1585-1600
tulip surge
free?
swift tree
Until they change it further you hit a wall between 1600-1620 not only from honing but elixirs and transcendence
tulip surge
ye 1620 is obv, I am rather asking about up to 1600
swift tree
lvl 5s are holding 13-15k here
Down by 10k not at.
They went from 40 to 30
swift tree
ye 1620 is obv, I am rather asking about up to 1600
by pushing to 1600 with gold you’ve kinda made that commitment
meager hill
ah, that's slightly less worse 
tulip surge
by pushing to 1600 with gold you’ve kinda made that commitment
oh that wasn't that bad
only 3 pieces
also I am asking rather about pushing alts without express up to 1600 (esp the one that has full akkan gear)
swift tree
yeah that’s why I say do it with all pieces using books and South Kurzan + solo shop orehas
tulip surge
I guess for now I will funnel everything into main and use the leftover stuff for alts (bound stuff)
swift tree
if at all
tulip surge
tulip surge
yea
ye my main issue was oreha
but only using solo shop ones
is a good idea
I am not buying any, just crafting them in the past, because crafting is like half the price of market
burnt tree
gamba addict
tulip surge
do we get a new pass every 2-3 month with new events?
I rmb there was 1 when I restarted in february and there is 1 atm
oh nice
I think the person who discovered the secret ending of akkan g3
just missclicked Thirain sidereal
turbid oriole
Blue Crystals down too
how much
weary dove
do Farm pet abilities affect life skilling or just stronghold farm?
neon cedar
Just the sh farm
earnest girder
down from 6k to 5k
On EU nothing changed , still almost 7k for fk sake xD
swift magnet
On EU nothing changed , still almost 7k for fk sake xD
last week it was 5800g for half a day. then spiked again
uuu
7400g rn -.-
slender sky
worldly hawk
https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-looking-up-cat-look-up-kitten-look-up-gif-13486805289139588631
vocal pollen
you just that op
wicked blade
Loool
burnt tree
damn 4 z's
tulip surge
z?
burnt tree
zdps
tulip surge
burnt tree
tulip surge
ah u mean zero
wicked blade
Sathona the savage
tulip surge
havent heard it called z
burnt tree
i have to watch 2 hours of kdrama, play tfd for 2 hours for daily rewards then hope shadows is downloaded
ong
and its 9 pm
also the MPE book sold naisuuu
slender sky
neon cedar
The Europeans are living in the future
wind dagger
I'm living in 2100
neon cedar
Old man
neon cedar
turbid oriole
meager hill
storm bronze
genes
turbid oriole
turbid oriole
i dont want math class
why do you have class on sunday
vagrant cradle
low nebula
my event guardian broken wtf
wind dagger
dead game theory
turbid oriole
silver hollow
safe lark
lunar hedge
maybe they dont know and im being too harsh but how the hell is this allowed man. in a GR
turbid oriole
slender sky
maybe they dont know and im being too harsh but how the hell is this allowed man...
had plenty of those in sonavels
lunar hedge
had plenty of those in sonavels
wintry depot
Well hope u told him
turbid oriole
tulip surge
I think I was waiting for like 1-2 week on voldis trav merchant to sell the box for hunting powder
and now I realised it's not that he never stocked it
he isn't the one selling
slender sky
they do exist in cube
lunar hedge
Well hope u told him
a vairgrys in the party called him out and told him to please uninstall, what can i say
harsh lake
Can I only make a small character by playing the specialists classes? ;’<
harsh lake
Ah that sucks, I wanted a fun sized gunslinger.
turbid oriole
a vairgrys in the party called him out and told him to please uninstall, what ca...
vairgrys
lunar hedge
harsh lake
Guess I’ll main wild soul
lunar hedge
wildsouls are strong
harsh lake
Yeah, Im digging the phantom beast(think that’s what it’s called) play style
uncut dirge
what level is brel?
lunar hedge
1670
uncut dirge
i heard somewhere that t3 bracelets are weaker against brel because she's above level 60
but is that true?
lunar hedge
if you have bracelet lines that indicate that, i guess so
uncut dirge
yeah but is she actually above level 60
lunar hedge
didnt really paid attention to her level, i just do things with my hands and clear it
slender sky
lunar hedge
<:Susge:1065387133990355014>
wintry depot
Brel is lvl 60
queen grail
MUST BE NICE
subtle sphinx
<:SMH:1175828185993203802> MUST BE NICE
well deserved
turbid oriole
queen grail
The guy didn't even notice he got it, smh. 
lunar hedge
its always the clueless ones
lunar hedge
queen grail
queen grail
did u see my chaos gate/world boss drops?
No, how much lucky did you get again now?
And you 🦆's call me lucky ye ok.
celest tiger
<:Looking:1222262916665839616> <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
at least you got L, i keep getting S 
S should be abolished 😭
uncut dirge
brel g1 stagger is hard
or so i thought
then i looked over: raid is 2x gunslinger, deadeye, soulfist, sorc, SE, bard, artist
burnt tree
No, how much lucky did you get again now?
queen grail
must be nice to be lucky Grats 
queen grail
something more than nothing
@neon cedar Did you ever do 
I forgot? And if not, let me know if you need a run.
uncut dirge
<:Looking:1222262916665839616> something more than nothing
grats
queen grail
keen copper
preset prob took an hold piece 
midnight marlin
repair
queen grail
The 🐧 is a weeb @neon cedar @burnt tree @thorny olive 
wintry depot
old dps build
uncut dirge
cast D and F at the same time
royal summit
what in the minecraft fuck is that font
turbid oriole
yep def terrorizing these 3 ppl
i forgot my bard looks like this
is this still right @wintry depot
wintry depot
yeah
turbid oriole
ohgod blue rune
wintry depot
i hate cj personally
turbid oriole
midnight marlin
i should go womwom
turbid oriole
nerf honing and gold costs for support 50%
support shortage solved
gib free trans and free elixir too
wintry depot
nerf honing and gold costs for support 50%
there was supp overflow before wildsoul you dumbdumb 🖕
we dont need more useless shit support
prime warren
i
wintry depot
exactly
midnight marlin
a
wintry depot
b
uncut dirge
im a support in a 7/8 lobby, we've been waiting for 25 minutes for a 2nd support
i see a lobby with another support, i so wanna switch over
but i know if i do i doom this lobby
wintry depot
i always apply in a lobby with a support already
uncut dirge
well there weren't any when i was making the decision
wintry depot
now you can make the decision
tulip charm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42mbZ-oUUy4&ab_channel=Couplemas what region is this? blue rocks is 8g each wtf?
tulip charm
on naw its 3 or 4 now
uncut dirge
on euc it's 6-7
wintry depot
i miss when they were 15
uncut dirge
me too
wtf like
3 other lobbies have got 2 supports while this has got none
ahh
i guess this lobby didnt leave a supp + friend spot
no wonder
wintry depot
yeah thats the first rule
meager hill
surely stones will reach 2g soon 
neon cedar
<@202959015641219072> Did you ever do <:Dragons:979016006271914024> I forgot? An...
I haven't. I could run it in ~15 if you want
queen grail
I haven't. I could run it in ~15 if you want
Sure 
I have my main still
uncut dirge
ok so
i sat there for 40 minutes with this lobby
and i'm finally like
"ok guys, i've sat here for so long i'll go try my luck elsewhere"
i leave
wintry depot
pog 3k gold
uncut dirge
30 seconds later they get the support
meager hill
uncut dirge
good thing i left amicably so they were happy to take me back
queen grail
vocal pollen
need +20 gold
neon cedar
Sure <a:NODDERS:759169878086909963> I have my main still
Im online, ready whenever
turbid oriole
queen grail
Im online, ready whenever
I'll look at some grps then 
just got me some salad to nom on while waiting for grp to form
@neon cedar
"your friend mokoko no, next run" Weirdos, @neon cedar I'll find another one
neon cedar
neon cedar
Theyre scared Im gonna out dps them 
queen grail
Well, filled fast enough, accidentially declined a sup I wanted to grab
But it is what it is
neon cedar
He's cheating <:Looking:1222262916665839616> <@202959015641219072>
This guardian raid didnt die
queen grail
Holy, my damage was so shait there I didn't want to die-prestagger and fucked up 
neon cedar
Ty for the run 
queen grail
The bard in my party used I don't know, 5? 6 heals on our team
queen grail
Ty for the run <a:bowing:1107022420893782139>
np np 
neon cedar
Gross, heals
queen grail
You're done on EUC now ye?
queen grail
Gross, heals
to be fair most of us was standing in stuff and had the debuff and playing around at 1% hp
neon cedar
I do that too. The lightning debuff procs my shield so im comfy sitting at 1hp
queen grail
would just burn all my pots trying to outheal it also dying is 
turbid oriole
I do that too. The lightning debuff procs my shield so im comfy sitting at 1hp
find new game yet
neon cedar
thorny olive
queen grail
mystic basin
queen grail
celest tiger
they should give an option to convert those to gold
wintry depot
Inflation would be even worse
celest tiger
Yeah
turbid oriole
wintry depot
2 fate ember in same chaos
like come ooon
and got the shitty mount for the 30th time
uncut dirge
<:Despairge:1001023262404386866>
uncut dirge
rip
tulip surge
no pity
celest tiger
rip'd
real basin
if you're about to get like 97-98% artisan on a tap, throw juice on it to get to 100, save yourself a tap
ebon snow
mokoko jailed us in g2 then he kicked us fro mthe party 💀
turbid oriole
swift tree
failed 30% 8 TIMES
it happens
celest tiger
spamming sonavel on alt because bored
real basin
but y
celest tiger
1580 
real basin
that's even worse
celest tiger
i think it's funny that she still gets mvp sometimes 👀
real basin
there are a lot of rats in mm that do like 4-5m dps
lunar hedge
https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-looking-up-cat-look-up-kitten-look-up-gif-13486805289139588631
mortal burrow
y'all
I went princess maker in echidna
and it was fun af
we didnt want to wait for a sup so we just went in
turbid oriole
@valid turtle do you have the more left meme
real basin
i am officially a rice farmer
neon cedar
I wonder what Net plays now
tranquil bridge
The great Net probably has ascended to a higher plain such as Flyff or La Tale
harsh lake
Dofus
tranquil bridge
Not nice, I'm not a dofus
harsh lake
vocal pollen
his last message in the official disc
tranquil bridge
Probably not worth it because he can't even play it.. a sad tale
midnight marlin
<@137470072896618496> do you have the more left meme
valid turtle
wtf 
tulip charm
i am officially a rice farmer
Send this to net
tulip charm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmqriCKoXUM
I’ll check it out in an hour, Ty for translations
tulip charm
I wonder what Net plays now
I think net works for Amazon studios
harsh lake
https://tenor.com/view/mika-blue-archive-blue-run-roulle-gif-2972881091975404243
Meeker
turbid oriole
tawny lion
naw is actual dogshit people gate keeping hard on behemoth below 1660 with lvl 7/8 gems on non mokoko groups
tulip charm
naw is actual dogshit people gate keeping hard on behemoth below 1660 with lvl 7...
people on NAw gatekeep argeos guardians at 1670
welcome to my world
swift tree
I think net works for Amazon studios
Net about to become another Luigi
Remember kids, don't piss of game developers
tawny lion
should've just not RMT'd
ags unbanned a lot of the rmt and chaos bots though
real basin
cash money went down too much
vapid bluff
Do you think it will still be super beneficial to have multiple of the same character
after the gem announcement changes they made
swift tree
Still get the benefit of shared engravings, amulets that you can trade across characters and rolling similar accessories
tawny lion
after the gem announcement changes they made
i've been out of the game for many weeks, any link to changes?
neon cedar
There are no changes
swift tree
i've been out of the game for many weeks, any link to changes?
It's just speculation from KR Director, about possibly changing gems to save across presets
vapid bluff
Its nothing official
swift tree
For context, it's the some kind of "musings" we got about solo raids 6 months before anything was announced
vapid bluff
But their goal is to make it less punishing for people with multiple chars of different classes
or somewhat more punishing for people who do have multiple of the same
swift tree
Director aimed to treat the former without enforcing the latter
mistranslation on Memo's part
"We aim to make swapping non-similar classes easier, rather than restrict people trading between similar classes. To also reduce the swapping between accounts"
real basin
just do the smart thing and make gems roster
vapid bluff
mistranslation on Memo's part
is that why stoops jumped on his throat for making the halfass video
swift tree
yes and why he did the KR bow of forgiveness above
vapid bluff
okay i make a 2nd wildsoul, this class is too fun
swift tree
just do the smart thing and make gems roster
thing now is how they actually do that
vapid bluff
Alt rosters make me sick
its one of those things where like yes its the developers fault, but the community does not do this game any favors
swift tree
its one of those things where like yes its the developers fault, but the communi...
Honestly, just allow for bound gold to be earned outside of main 6, then assume any alt roster is RMT at that point
swift tree
You haven't seen the player numbers for KR
Both part of the same issue
hundreds of thousands of 1640s that share gems between alt rosters
vapid bluff
its crazy how we're in 2025 and when you make a new character, it still puts you in tier 1
real basin
don't they gatekeep much harder in KR on gems hence gem trading?
swift tree
its crazy how we're in 2025 and when you make a new character, it still puts you...
that's how MMOs work though, craziest part is that upper Tier 1 is 75% base honing chance and that Akkan gear costs gold
real basin
starting in T1 wouldn't be an issue if they made all of that old content solo and had their guide tech basically walk you through to upper T3 like a tutorial with big material dumps at each milestone, getting dropped in at 500 ilvl with 1-2 taps from running chaos even at 100% honing rate feels kinda bad, your main source of honing with 1 char in T1 is event mats and you don't have the horizontals to make tower and slapping all the GRs easy
neon cedar
Yea the gem thing is whatever. A roster of 6 paladins sharing 1 set is perfectly fine. If people want to trade gems its a little abusive but really doesnt matter imo
vapid bluff
What if they removed CDR gems entirely and buffed every skill in the game to act upon having the CDR gem affect built in , so people just had to focus on damage gems
Then they could cut the gems needed in half no?
swift tree
It's a bad from a design standpoint, argument is making it more streamlined for different classes, which makes sense.
This is from the same studio that completely redid Tier 1/2 and cut down honing tiers for pre-Brelshaza gear despite it being "irrelevant" for Korea.
both tbh
Will probably end up with a roster-shared version of the combat storage that you can put gems in and mass presets will automatically pull from it, like how Battle Items now are, but they're not locked like bombs/potions
if they play different classes and get attached to them, they're more likely to buy different skins.... that's the quiet part.
vapid bluff
I think this is the main roster I want, can they hurry up and buff 1600-1620 so I can enjoy the game on more than 3 classes 
swift tree
Not about a support vs dps thing though. There's people with 6 dps classes too
vapid bluff
It has been common knowledge since the beginning of the game that supports need much less investment
viscid sand
I mean, they would complain but they would also accept any kind of support they can get for their lobbies, so if it's easier to gear the support, it's a win tbh
vapid bluff
WHy would someone have a problem with that
viscid sand
swift tree
WHy would someone have a problem with that
they don't, that's why that's not complained about
vapid bluff
No one is upset that people play the same class and are able to save gold, people are upset that they cant share the same privilage for wanting to play a variety of classes
swift tree
because the situation for support addresses the almost chronic shortage of them
neon cedar
Thats less of a game issue and more of a whiny player issue imo
vapid bluff
being directly punished for wanting to play multiple classes goes against what makes an MMO
You are, it is absolutely impossible
neon cedar
being directly punished for wanting to play multiple classes goes against what m...
See thats the whiny player part. Youre NOT being punished. The other people are just saving a buck
vapid bluff
to get a 6 built roster
With proper gems on all 6, unless you have been p;laying since day 1
viscid sand
depends what a 6 built roster looks like to you/the community tbh
swift tree
you are though, it’s literally a form of positive punishment
vapid bluff
People want a 6 built roster, theres a reason why the two most popular MMOs out there encourage people to play a variety of classes
swift tree
You’re giving the additional task of acquiring extra Tier 4 gems. i.e. Positive Punishment
neon cedar
you are though, it’s literally a form of positive punishment
Youre not being punished because someone else is frugal with their money
vapid bluff
You're being punished for wanting to play multiple classes, if you can't understand that then it's just ignorance
neon cedar
Youre not being punished
vapid bluff
See the latter portion of my sentence
neon cedar
See the latter portion of my sentence
"Why am i being punished for paying full price on gas when the other guy has a coupon" "Why dont I get given a free coupon:
Youre not being punished
vapid bluff
"Why am i being punished for paying full price on gas when the other guy has a c...
?????
Brother what in gods name did I just read
viscid sand
People want a 6 built roster, theres a reason why the two most popular MMOs out...
I mean they encourage it by making it so that your progression is tied solely to that character instead of being shareable
vapid bluff
You are so out of touch it's insane
neon cedar
No, im really not
real basin
I mean I do, should have a hard reset at every major "expansion" like other games, it's part of keeping the game accessible to new players, that and having old gearing grinds made super fast, e.g. in WoW you just up the M+ and solo drops so new players skip the old tiers, or XIV you just buy crafted gear
vapid bluff
KR doesn't care, they just want more booba
swift tree
Youre not being punished
An unintentional punishment is still punishment. Going to swing game dev knowledge here. When I said “positive punishment” it’s an actual part of Behavioural Psychology this falls under.
neon cedar
Yea, no
stark sky
How could you do this memo 😢 I already did a 30 year plan for my retirement on lost ark now i lost all my gold for the next 30 years 😮 im very angry at you 😡but its ok since you apologized 😊 but the next time you do this again im going to ban you because my dad works at smilesgate 😤 chat should we give him another chance? 🤨
vapid bluff
because gems are the biggest thing gatekeeping players out of raids at this point in time
viscid sand
Simply because it is something they do not want to do to stay "relevant" in terms of power
swift tree
Yeah no shit, of course there’s worse things. Korea and Smilegate however have seemed to want to crack down on why their launch of Tier 4 has completely stalled with most accounts not advancing past 1640.
swift tree
"Why am i being punished for paying full price on gas when the other guy has a c...
ngl better metaphor is “why does my neighbour get diesel in both his cars and I have to pay for unleaded for one of them!”
stark sky
real make gems roster so i can gatekeep anyone who doesnt have full 10s
viscid sand
Then the grandfathers can keep playing with each other with their L10s and the casuals+rats can play with their event gems
stark sky
u wanna know why kr is specifically talking about gems
bcuz people are legit hosting gem trading services
and director no likey
viscid sand
So nothing changes, but people can sort of catch up to a 6 built roster assuming gem acquisition remains the same, no?
swift tree
Gem market tanks
1620 costs silver
Trans/Elixirs get nerfer further
Adv honing makes it easier to reach 1660 and 1680 chaos/cubes
personal gem earn-rate goes up
becomes less of an obstacle for players wanting to farm gems outside of main 6
Gem market drops further
higher level gems become less of an issue
ngl Tier 4 gems were already an issue on Day 1
stark sky
yo gem system is fine
just increase the sources of gems we get
if they do any of that roster wide gem bullshit
its so doomed
also
put t4 gems in solo shop
lmao
tulip surge
oh I just noticed the awakening skill no longer costs some material 
I feel like it used to cost something but I don't recall what it was
neon cedar
That was removed 2 1/2 years ago
swift tree
In all brutal honestly, there's nothing enforcing players to expect 10s than just their tendency to be the most toxic shitheads possible.
gems becoming more available / shared doesn't make them functionally any strong/weaker
viscid sand
oh I just noticed the awakening skill no longer costs some material <:thonk:2778...
Some Awakening Stone that costed like 250 silver or smt
swift tree
people gatekeep anyways.
stark sky
for the same reason that they'll gatekeep you if you don't have full 10s if gems were roster wide
no one wants a rat
swift tree
Why does every time you counter any act that makes the game more accessible always come across as some shitty bad faith argument?
stark sky
i promise u
tawny lion
good, let this game be for hardcare and whales only
stark sky
if gems become roster wide
i will be gatekeeping full 10s only
and many other people too
swift tree
i will be gatekeeping full 10s only
then you're just an asshole
stark sky
no im realistic
if full 10s become the same price as current full 8s
then theres no reason your entire roster shouldnt have it
if gems become roster wide
that makes the price of gems go down by over 6x
are u serious right now
thats 1/3rd of the economy ur talking about
enough to matter
swift tree
that makes the price of gems go down by over 6x
So 99 level 8s for a full set of level 10s versus 66 needed for outfit a full roster with level 8s.
Still requires more gems.
stark sky
u are competing with everyone else who has full 10s
theres no reason for me to take ur cheap ass
i look at my applicant list and i see some guy with 8 gems
and i see some guy with 10 gems
swift tree
People already have max relic engravings, guess I should just delete my account now since I don't have that either.
stark sky
what do you think happens
swift tree
Guess with Frog I should have max relic too or just quit
It is still more gems than a full 6x roster with 11 level 8 gems each
swift tree
whomp there it is
tulip surge
woudl be nice if getting a single lvl 10 gem without market would take less than half a year
and while it helps a lot, not like it's mandatory to clear things or to have good dps
tawny lion
and while it helps a lot, not like it's mandatory to clear things or to have goo...
mandatory to join groups
tawny lion
he's a shadowhunter. any high level content without 10s as SH is instant ban
i can see why people enjoy mhwilds. constant boss fights solo or group for ANY content, the grind is nothing like an mmorpg
torn ether
woudl be nice if getting a single lvl 10 gem without market would take less than...
u can put 2 lvl 7s and ur fine
ull havem money to buy 2 lvl 8s too
swift tree
he's a shadowhunter. any high level content without 10s as SH is instant ban
"Why do people hate Lost Ark for having too much gatekeeping"
tulip surge
so if I make a new character (idk, Arti or Soul Eater or something) and level it up to high level content (idk what counts that? 1640, 1670?)
I cannot join any raids till I spend like 4 months getting atleast lvl 9 gems?
neon cedar
I have 5's and 6s on my 1660 alts
neon cedar
Tier 3s right? Solo shop gives free t3 7s. Express gives T4 6s and four t4 7s
real basin
i can see why people enjoy mhwilds. constant boss fights solo or group for ANY c...
I think stoopzz is right when he says just add solo to everything because people like it. I'm getting hard mage tower vibes -- they reluctantly added something and people like it, but they don't want to commit to making it a core part of the game.
tulip surge
tawny lion
I think stoopzz is right when he says just add solo to everything because people...
realistically the game shouldnt be like this, but with gate keeping and raid wipe mechanics it does need solo content for everything
torn ether
I think stoopzz is right when he says just add solo to everything because people...
for whatever reason
it wouldnt even push ppl from doing group content
ifu have a static group content is way more fun
tawny lion
yeah people who do solo content struggle to get in groups or dont have static and hate wasting time in group finder
swift tree
yeah people who do solo content struggle to get in groups or dont have static an...
? Get into Aegir and Behemoth fine on my Zerker and I got there via solo content
tawny lion
? Get into Aegir and Behemoth fine on my Zerker and I got there via solo content
i wasted like 20 minutes getting my 1655 zerker into behemoth today.
sure my main 2 characters get into groups very easily, but my alts? not at all
and they arent even rats
swift tree
My 1660 zerker w/ event gems was accepted into a Behemoth that had 1700s
tawny lion
NAW
swift tree
NAE
torn ether
My 1660 zerker w/ event gems was accepted into a Behemoth that had 1700s
any normal ppl would accept a 1660 to a 1700 group
but yeah
we dont have normal ppl
that much
tawny lion
any normal ppl would accept a 1660 to a 1700 group
no one in naw is normal then
swift tree
no one in naw is normal then
from what I hear, yeah sounds like it
torn ether
no one in naw is normal then
if ppl think u would hinder the clear as 1640 in 1700 lobby yeah they are not lol
tawny lion
if ppl think u would hinder the clear as 1640 in 1700 lobby yeah they are not lo...
even 1660 with some 9s and 10s gets gatekept by behemoth group 1680+
swift tree
if ppl think u would hinder the clear as 1640 in 1700 lobby yeah they are not lo...
bUt I gOt tO 1700 tHe HaRd WaY, FuCk TheM 1640 FrEeLoAdErs
tawny lion
i dont doubt euc and nae is good, but naw is a shit hole that wastes your time
torn ether
bUt I gOt tO 1700 tHe HaRd WaY, FuCk TheM 1640 FrEeLoAdErs
fr 
eu is bit more chill sometimes
swift tree
same dented fucks that vote against their own interests irl
torn ether
but only sometimes
real basin
I'll never understand gatekeeping behe, the dps required to skip everything is so low, as long as they know how to go to clock position by group and right click on crystals in g2 nothing else really matters
torn ether
isn't bemeoth 1620? <:GaruFinalMomentDead:702249790754258995>
was
swift tree
isn't bemeoth 1620? <:GaruFinalMomentDead:702249790754258995>
Yes, which is why it's so fucking stupid
swift tree
People are just that fucking stupid
Like how clown remained 1475 but people wanted 1540+ in it after Brelshaza came out
tulip surge
swift tree
ppl are gatekeeping behemoth clears at 1660 and 1700?
1700 players are gatekeeping people at 1660+ (they run it for the extra mats it gives).
swift tree
<:Sadge:882711949668937748>
1620 is basically "move immediately to 1640"
torn ether
esp if u mokoko
swift tree
yes
neon cedar
At 1620 you're basically 1640. 1640 has more gatekeeping but I also see plenty of lobbies of full 1640 clearing
tulip surge
does it also need like many weeks of gear farming like akkan gear?
neon cedar
Not everyone is afraid of mechs
swift tree
does it also need like many weeks of gear farming like akkan gear?
you walk in here 1620, walk out 1640
swift tree
1620 gear transfers to 1640
torn ether
if ur using express u get this by just honing
swift tree
^
express just gives it to you
it's basically a shitty chaos dungeon where you refight the final boss of the North Kurzan MSQ
real basin
only thing that sucks is if you have tons of T3 mats and you wanna AH in T3 you're gonna want to do echidna/behe at 1620 while you get mats to AH, even if just to temper before you transfer
that's one of the nice things about this express, but for other chars
tulip surge
love the fcked up story raid progressions a bit
Thaemine 1610
1580 SK
1620 Overture 1 (SK)
1600 NK
1660-70 Overture 2-3
in chronological story order
I understand from a dev perspective they put it high so it people had a reason to grind up to high ilvl to run the newest raid
swift tree
love the fcked up story raid progressions a bit <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
T...
Elgacia is 1460, Brelshaza is 1490, Pleccia is 1475, Akkan is 1580, Voldis is 1520.
tulip surge
but now it just looks dumb
tulip surge
Elgacia is 1460, Brelshaza is 1490, Pleccia is 1475, Akkan is 1580, Voldis is 15...
and Brel was after South Vern in story I think
swift tree
and Brel was after South Vern in story I think
Yeah after South Vern, on-ramp for Elgacia
tulip surge
Voldis 1520, Ivory tower 1600
atleast that was an actual doable story raid
should have done that with all other ones
real basin
the chaos dungeon ilvls don't make any sense to me either
tulip surge
the areas they are in or wut?
swift tree
the level breakpoints are a bit dumb
all the item levels of Tier 3 got screwed over by old Punika endgame and now the whole upper track of the game has kinda been screwed since
viscid sand
The level breakpoints for the story are just for the story enjoyers
wispy sigil
i lost my mokoko leaf after 1 week and hit only 1640 as an artist, thought mokoko leaf is like 60 days on it or if im hitting 1670. anyone know?
viscid sand
It's entirely cosmetic for those who actually have the ilvl to do the raid
torn ether
i lost my mokoko leaf after 1 week and hit only 1640 as an artist, thought mokok...
u'll se it after u enter a group
it donsent appear next to your namebar or anything
swift tree
i lost my mokoko leaf after 1 week and hit only 1640 as an artist, thought mokok...
different mokoko leaf
real basin
the areas they are in or wut?
yeah south vern until 1560, then elgacia at 1580 and 1600, and then voldis at 1610
swift tree
yeah south vern until 1560, then elgacia at 1580 and 1600, and then voldis at 16...
yeah Punika going until 1400 messed this up
wispy sigil
ok ty Fade and Barachan
viscid sand
yeah Punika going until 1400 messed this up
Makes sense cause the legion commander arc ie southvern+ is 1415+ though 
swift tree
Oreha was originally 1350/1370 G1/G2 for normal, then 1370/1380 for HM.
Argos started at 1370 G1, 1385 G2, 1400 G3.
All of Tier 3 got off-set by this
swift tree
Makes sense cause the legion commander arc ie southvern+ is 1415+ though <:Okayu...
because Argos ended at 1400
viscid sand
Argos is still part of the oreha questline
neon cedar
i lost my mokoko leaf after 1 week and hit only 1640 as an artist, thought mokok...
The leaf for Mokoko bootcamp is different than the regular Mokoko leaf. You lose the normal one at 1620. If you make a raid lobby for something like Thaemine you should still see the BootCamp leaf
It only appears in party finder
swift tree
Yes but Argos was originally 3 separate item levels for each of its gates
vapid bluff
should I be prioritizing maxing all the demon dmg stuff first
swift tree
and you needed either Argos or Oreha Hard gear to reach the later 2 gates
neon cedar
should I be prioritizing maxing all the demon dmg stuff first
Yes
swift tree
should I be prioritizing maxing all the demon dmg stuff first
yes
vapid bluff
Is there not a way to upgrade through this screen? zzz
swift tree
3rd tab
neon cedar
Ctrl +right click the card, upgrade
vapid bluff
perf ty
fervent ibex
^ yeah but it just takes u to the 3rd tab anyways
i just Favorited all the demon cards
and then click to see those only
swift tree
ready for adv honing changes 
vapid bluff
how the heck do you get the xp for all of this
viscid sand
Time
neon cedar
Slowly over time
fervent ibex
a lot of time and cubes
swift tree
how the heck do you get the xp for all of this
Cubes, MSQ and Horizontal
fervent ibex
and possibly a Golden Frog where they forgot to cap off card XP and so people with a bunch of gold just got like 200m xp in a week
but surely nobody did that 
swift tree
and possibly a Golden Frog where they forgot to cap off card XP and so people wi...
the rng chest?
neon cedar
Event shops are good. If you're really grinding card xp the merchant ship sells a little weekly
wispy sigil
The leaf for Mokoko bootcamp is different than the regular Mokoko leaf. You lose...
ok ty
swift tree
there's also the peyto/fermata if you need a lot of random tier 3 cards
viscid sand
Card XP : Lucky fate ember otw
fervent ibex
the rng chest?
no just they straight up sold those XP Cards.. and it was like uncapped or something
swift tree
no just they straight up sold those XP Cards.. and it was like uncapped or somet...
lol
fervent ibex
i remember people posting their ridiculous exp totals zz
nobody had enough cards back then tho, so they still had to wait lol
but still, all their exp was ready
vapid bluff
How much demon dmg do yall have
neon cedar
Mine is maxed, minus the new card sets. 6.2% + 0.5% from the pet ranch
neon cedar
Good start. It's expensive
vapid bluff
Well if nothing else, I have a newfound appreciation for cards lower than legendary rarity
neon cedar
I get most of my card xp from chaos dungeons duplicate cards
With time you'll finish more card and earn more XP instead
real basin
i'm at 2.07%
vapid bluff
I thought I was nearing the end with being LoS 30, but turns out this is only the beginning
wind dagger
wind dagger
wintry depot
Wednesday
real basin
more 
quests
vagrant cradle
<:Weirdgo:1316165356263444651>
tulip surge
ye same
vagrant cradle
I need to do the music boxes for the new mount we'll be able to get
tulip surge
they are things I keep pushing to eternity but when I actl do them, I enjoy them
some are very surprising or funny
or scary
the feiton one 
tulip surge
or sad like the one in rohendel 
meager hill
I don't recall, did they already nerf our music box, or was that coming next week?
gleaming pendant
fresh flint
buhh
vapid bluff
Is there any indication on when we are getting another express event, or even a free powerpass
dull obsidian
Probably summer lmao
fresh flint
So like
dull obsidian
vapid bluff
i wish I could refund
or like switch a class
They should totally give us a 1 time class swap
vapid bluff
Why not?
analog path
switching berserker into an artist would be a crazy thing
dull obsidian
Late game class issues would multiply
No one likes to play support
Would also be 10000 more blades that class might be too easy on average
dull obsidian
Where did you even screw up?
dull obsidian
Entropy?
vapid bluff
it doesnt even exist, why do people still say that
dull obsidian
Because entropy just means positional at this point
vapid bluff
just say pinnacle
vapid bluff
if you are not doing positionals with pinnacle you are doing something severely wrong
vapid bluff
Then why is that even a question
Anyway I hate back attacking, it makes me want to stop playing
vapid bluff
and glaivier has super clunky downtime
analog path
glaive is pretty lame anyways
dull obsidian
Class is strong but clunky just like 60% of other classes in the game
analog path
what's a class that isn't clunky
fresh flint
buhh
analog path
ik sh both specs are smooth
where do you put gs
cosmic flame
DE
cosmic flame
DE clunky as hell on my ping
Well u play from mars
dull obsidian
analog path
i don't played the new classes so idk
cosmic flame
On human ping DE is smooth as butter
dull obsidian
Yorgh I but 24 wep
cosmic flame
Esp with the dashes
analog path
martian ping
dull obsidian
cosmic flame
No hear me out ok
dull obsidian
I don't see a point in moving my ilvl atm
cosmic flame
+18 is 1690 yea
dull obsidian
Maybe when we get nerfs but even then
cosmic flame
You honed to +18 before you did +10 AH?
After
vapid bluff
No one said it has a lot of downtime
cosmic flame
I have +10
stark sky
what does clunky downtime even mean then
dull obsidian
Idk man
I don't think I move from 1680 for a long time
1680 kinda he perfect parking spot for awhile
vapid bluff
When you rotate to blue skill you have to sit there either doing nothing or wasting mana on skills that dont do damage after you do your main 3, to swap back to red for instant skill
stark sky
what
cosmic flame
1680 kinda he perfect parking spot for awhile
1680 is perfect ilvl to park
cosmic flame
But I wanna get them to 1700 so I can forget for a long ahh time
dull obsidian
Butbyorgh what about your lvl 10 gems on your main
stark sky
so does playing the class properly
dull obsidian
And your books
stark sky
it sounds like you have no idea what you're doing on the class
dull obsidian
vapid bluff
I play the class properly
cosmic flame
Butbyorgh what about your lvl 10 gems on your main
Frog will kill market
fresh flint
om so toxic
vapid bluff
it sounds like you're just being insufferable as you defend your dying class
stark sky
how am i defending it
i never said glaive was a good or bad class
i am just questioning your dumb statements
cosmic flame
Pinnacle is not clunky
surreal gyro
vapid bluff
Pinnacle has 2 seconds of blue downtime where you dont get to do anything
dull obsidian
The claaa
vapid bluff
90% of blue skills are useless
blissful rose
it is clunky tbh
wintry depot
blissful rose
hated glaive
dull obsidian
Grrrr
blissful rose
that jump is so ass
cosmic flame
hated glaive
You play striker
dull obsidian
cosmic flame
You hate yourself my guy
blissful rose
You play striker
Striker 