#lost-ark-discussions
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So u technically only need 11 gems?đ
I don't want EU to catch up to KR, that just means players will be even more behind and more fomo

Say you have 3x level 7 damage gems and they're set to the Support skills on a paladin ME1
if I switch to solo ME2 they'd auto-convert to Holy Sword / Executioner etc.
Time to fuse all my gems
you get 10k to 500k from chest
Wait but thatâs crazy i can just fuse all my gems and set presets with those on all alts
Transfer them
Gg
What inflation? I see nothing wrong
SG probably
capitalism in game
They nerfed echidna and behemoth 
Are they dumb?
yes

7.5k for both
Thank fuck for our bound gold
They trying to speedrun EOS or what?
KR still doesnt use bound gold
Memorizer massively fucked up gem translation, but Strike Raid is kinda bs
give frog to them give frog to us make stroke raid juiced with mats and some gold remove rng remove gold from elixir trans nerf 1620 honing to ground
game saved
THEY DONT DO THIS
WHY
Because milk players
Game was never their main focus
It is profit
They never gave a shit about community
Lets be honest
My highschool friend left review for lost ark lmaaao
i was playing game where milking players was at extreme lvl
this is nothing
"More p2w and grind garbage then BDO, if u want second job, this game is for u. If u are a functional sane human being, stay away from this garbage"

imagine you culd buy raid reset ticket for money XD
and get that money again
bdo gameplay is giga overrated
BDO is fun imo
fuck that just ad this atp
yeah im waiting for siege x
this shit is getting more and more depressive
every time i try to join back and have fun
Is the adv nerf 11-20 or 1-20?
im dooming
its deserved
game aint dying or shit but there are some simple things they have to do
1-20
I'm speedrunning global 100 in Mobile Legends so that I can flex to my friends and girlfriend that they suck at the game @torn ether

Yes
damn
i dont know if they translations are messed up, but the fact they phrased a possible gem rework as a punishment to gem-sharers and one-class players, rather than something to help most players is messing people up
No
Brainwashed Yorgh
Oh no
We lost him

1 good thing
After it became almost neccecary to progress and after they introduced 20-40?
that doesnt effect new returning players
nerf 1600-1620
You see the issue?
nerfing raids at 1640 isnt an issue
but delete gold coast from t3
just remove it
u dont even let ppl to get to the point where they would p2w
they fukc themselves over and over
Nerf AH
Nerf gold from raids
Yes
Seems fair
LMAO
Are LOA players brain damaged
It is basically same as before
worse than before
u got more nerf to gold u get
less gold nerf to amount u spend
not counting mats

it is
it is
i agree
The ratio is different, they cut the mat cost for ah by 50%, raw gold cost by 20%
Might be wonky translation again
Nah, if they do something even more stupid, I'm booking a flight to KR
and pissing on their sign

Upcoming next
We nerfed mats accussition by 60%

I donât even know wth is happening to be honest, all I see people guessing and 2nd guessing transitions, just gonna wait for a checklist from memo or saint trmw
mat cost for AH by 50% is huge, since so much of it is abidos fusion mats lol
It is just funny how they decide to nerf X system after 99% of people are done with X system

like its 5k fking abidos for 1-10 thats crazy
i just started
very nice to see it

but im f2p player
Is there even any details? Is it just 0-20, or is all the way up to 40?
1-20
And if they do change it. When do we even get the changes on global, better not be 6months later or some bs
Wdym ah is getting nerfed now I just pushed yesterday 
Idk if LOA players are just blind or what
SG does this so people have easier access to higher level AH and stuff
So that they can milk them more
Same happened with transc and elixirs
This affects me too, I am only full 20ed on 2 char, the rest is still at 10

i was happy about transc update
using calculator to get this shit done was giga waste of time
i had mats but no time to get this done
Nerf X when X becomes obsolete and new thing is out
I seen that in real life aswell
But
Difference is, it usually results in a lawsuit

I mean it is not hard
Just juice weapon all the time
And on full grace use scroll
Gg ez
90% of kr didnt finish ah
i was talking about trans
Did they say when this stuff goes live?
They havenât even come to an agreement on a change right
Just that they want to change it
Even translated properly he didnt give a firm answer on gems
If u can use same set on gems on multiple characters in roster
can u guys bump this up so maybe it gets seen
That means cheaper gems on market?
oficial discord
No?
no whay they will do it
maybe same gems on 1 char for presets
which was a mistake from the director, they should have said so after more things ahve been decided
but no multi char gems share
giving such a vague answer is just ragebait
I can see it going up since it means itâs a worthwhile investment now
leads to speculation and rage like rn
Director is doodoo
Kr arent raging, only west is
they were
Kr is always raging
thats against milking
they will not do this
Yes but rn they arent
Time to check my favorite website
wait for the weekly inven post on the subreddit
Yup
if they do some type of changes like he said , i'm out of this game

They are but itâs different issues, they are monitizing their f4 shop way too much, to the point mountaineering club whales quit over it
uhm, but do you actually pay?
I do
pay for ?
What's the change that's making you think this
the thing with gems , because i cant help my alt roster anymore
they wanna do it 100% p2w
I don't understand the gem change
I was hoping maybe kr address some of the over monotization issues on the kr game, if they donât tone it down, itâs gonna trickle down to global I think
Nobody does not even the translators
nobody understands the gem change because the director didnt give a firm answer
So me having multiple DEs sharing full 8s is scuffed now?
new director is a bit smoked đ
đ đ
Yes
If that's true I'm quitting too

His trolling you lol

Transfering gems on the same roster is still 0 issue, they gutted transfering gems via different accounts I think
at most we know the direction of the future reworks but it seems the director made sure that everything is just being considered and not a certainty
which is annoying because it feeds speculation and ragebait
Thatâs what everyone is doing right now lol

like this guy doesnt know how to talk to gamers
well back to raids 
dont let people speculate and ragebait, say it when things have already been decided and frame it as positively as you can
Wait for nerfed gold

-7.5k
trying to push now my alts at 1680
Wdym âdonât letâ lol, people are gonna do it regardless, me included, you just gotta be self aware at least
i mean nobody knows what the future system will be, so people are going to make up whatever future system is the worst
vs only announcing when everything has been decided
I wonder why
Usually it goes both ways, some people might even be hyped for a new thing or 2, but with the way this community is, itâs only doom soeculations
300iq play
Only thing I want is, whatever the hell they sent out, including the balance patch, I want it right now !!! 
Sick of getting kr cast me down updates 6months later
aegir -25% gold
and their response is "honing will cost 20% less gold"
are they taking the piss
Really?
aegir normal: 24k -> 18k (-25%)
behemoth: 18k -> 11k (-40%)
echidna hard: 19.5k -> 11k (-45%)
echidna normal: 13k -> 9.5k
What about their 2 newest raids?
Smart
Let the game die
lol
its way more than 20% since so much of advanced honing cost is in the abidoses, so a 50% reduction in that is big
I love thaemine
you forgot 50% mats redu?
also supposedly they are thinking about making gems untradable between character
who cares if mats are being reduced
when gold is always the issue
abidos is gold
1585 -> 1620 isn't expensive because it costs a lot of T3 mats
it's expensive because it costs a shitton of gold
lmao really?
like you have to be an RMTer or a swiper
to buy honing mats instead of using what you get yourself
i had issue with mats only
because you run into a giant wall of gold
other than new characters, then i can understand it
but outside of a new express pass it makes little sense to buy mats to hone, you just don't have the kind of gold gain for it
Gold and Fusions
well fusions is just gold + life skill mats
but even there gold is half the value if you were to buy the mats
with how ass the honing rate is, you burn through the 400 you get for free pretty fast
so even if you farm the mats yourself you're still paying 50g per fusion material in raw gold
Field Boss Improvements
HP reset when leaving the combat area will be removed.
finally something good
Something that vanilla field bosses already had
Imagine gems were roster wide and when you switch to any different class within your roster there was a completely new window which shows a different loadout using the same gems which you can change
I would coom
that's what the director was describing

So the 1600-1620 honing area didnt even got mentioned. Like it takes 2-3 weeks to hone 5lvl. Kind crazy
already been adjust based on feedback from streamers and others
slf being added 
no thank you, i'd rather stuck my child there for a week or two, spending gold honing them and keep those rice farmer away than having honing easier and got flooded with 640 bot like what we used to have in Vern

Ah from 1600 to 1620
which they alr flooded Elnead at some point rn anyway


so you are telling fucking new players is better than having some bots on endgame?
yes fuck them all
do solo bruh?
believed it or not, a moko shout out on area like "anyone care to carry hard echidna/something"

smilegate is completely out of touch
solo 1600 is like 9k gold
nerf gold gain massively even at 1660 ilvl
dude, i dont even know if a new player do know mech or not let alone doing hard content right away the moment they set foot on new game
but don't nerf honing to 1620
I saw a 1640 rat asking for a behe lobby that he made
1680+
you need 250k in gold taps alone to reach 1620
what are you even saying?
you have to be abslolute delulu to deffend current new player exp
u get nothing by doing solo
Next PP gonna drop you at 1640 frfr
absolutely nothing
ppl dont get to play the game
and ur worried about having some rats in your party
gues what
Yea rimera pp should be 1640
Music to my ears
Keep gatekeeping till eos

There are barely new players playing. Even those who stay for a while, after few weeks just stops playing the game. Really dont understand how any of this males sense for SG
SG?
This has nothing to do with SG
how so?
Their version is not dying
Because KR donât have the same problem we do
Why would they care about you lol
cuz kr is used to eat shit?
then why are they not looking for a learning group or group of ppl to play with? we got a whole "toxic" community right here anyway
Did anyone check on Net. His rice eatting business got a hit
their numbers are all time low too
KR version regularly get new players
Not low enough to be a concern
Stop deflecting, SG gave AGS publishing rights
Anything in west
When it comes to new players and events etc etc
becouse my friend there is almost no new players
Is on AGS
they cant find a learning party
No cause KR enjoy spending money in video game
same thing as i said
While the west love omg Iâm F2P
doesnt change the thing i said
Omg I'm chuan
Actually need chuan here
Oh no
im not deffending either
I have no energy to argue some dumb takes
they are equally shitty
This is why very little eastern game ever get publish in the west
Cause core system are built on monetization
Yes, they both are. But misleading isnât cool
Blame western developer on not making MMORPG
mb if it sounded like that
Yeah it looks like it. I helped one random guy honing by giving mats and shard pouches. He got to 1600 and after 3 weeks just stopped playing, like it is so damn sad. YeahâŠ

If youâre gonna doom be factual
most of them use the new models of brutal monetization
Big
Yeah but if you are the only ânew releasing MMORPGâ you kinda get to do whatever you want
When your competition is Ashes of creation 
Ashes of Creation is doa
And that the point eastern developer get away with murder when release to the western market cause there zero competition
God bless AGS
God bless SG
Get fucked rice eaters 
also come on nothing i said was wrong except not ading ags next to sg
Its not like the West has released good MMOs anyway, maybe WoW 15 years ago when it was still good
their competition is also the older MMOs that despite age/quality have had a decade to build a rapport with their communities for better or worse
Plus western players aren't loyal to games like asians are
New thing comes out ultra bail older mmo
older players are
Unless its WoW ig
problem is that console gaming is more prevalent in the "west" which inspires more match-based games
only in the sense that Microsoft turned your notebook into an Xbox
I say as i boot up PS5 to play GTA6 while most of u can't


that reminds me I need to dust mine
did they even release any exclusives for ps5 and only for ps5
i only can think of demon souls
timed exclusives
bloodborne
They switched to timed exclusivity
Like years ago
Which can be between 6 months to 2 years
still no bloodborne on pc


Resident Evil games + God of War out on PS5 before they come to PC/Xbox
Unless its bloodborne
I just wanna play death stranding 2
oh wait since when was spyro on pc

Game ignoring my counter on G2 Valinak despite getting a "damage negated" popup
We love lost ark

They cooked
W changes overall
i feel bad for one guy
What raid is kamine
No announced 1620 fixed tho :c
Thaemine
Siderial or Enemy?
O
Kamen is Thaemines actual name sir martian
500k from first clear?
Rng
no its random
oh
Its like embers
that sounds way more reasonable
You pray
i feel bad for this guy
wdym they just got new glows
imagine spending all that money and then you receive news the next day that game's getting even more cooked
Shangri la hard
I feel bad for anyone who has an Esther weapon

inb4 same complaints from our mokoko event
they added slf 
usually games make it easier to catch up when you're new or behind
lost ark makes it harder 
actually true
yeah catching up in bdo isnt hard
When majority of the gold is made from 1640/1660 characters its what it is
His name is gold River not the Ganges

like imagine nerfing ivory tower gold gain
Gotta get that gold
because the system is poorly designed
If you're not doing Behemoth, it's how you get solo raid gold
yes, but that's the point
IT/Thaemine/Echidna is how Rice Eaters get their alt roster gold
Ofc it is
if you're not 1640 you're doing ivory tower for gold
RIP net
Net in shambles
and they aren't adjusting honing to 1620
Even if we won't get such massive gold nerfs
We have bound gold, unlike KR
He can't send bound gold around
We're not getting the gold nerfs, thank fuck. But Korea is doomge
this change plus new raid
is gonna take us to new lows
5k player count in themornings in a few months
What is three entry limit issue
Well they will probably justify it with the 2 month event raid
yes, but KR odesn't so they can have alt rats on new expresses use solo raids to farm new gold

Gold from 3 raids per week
Well they will be making much less gold now
We will see how that goes xdd
Oh player count gonna drop so hard after Wednesday then
Were free

These aren't change announcements but discussions
AH/Trans nerfs and 1640 gold removal (FOR KOREA ONLY) were the only confirmed announcements
with this fucked up chat I've had to reset Valinak 3 times now
Lmao
did they say they will remove 1640 gold cost?
Im still in bedge and it's almost 3 pm
Lol no
no details yet
They are just trying to cut gold inflation
in fairness Smilegate fucking never announces honing changes in advance outside of LOA On
From alt accounts n sht
bound gold

but they wont for some weird reason
Yeah
Koreans want it
Only rmtrs and sht don't want it
But those are subhuman it shouldn't matter

Anyway gem changes tho
Those are nice if they add em

tl;dr easier to gem swap without officially baking in roster gems
And free reroll!
Me with 2x 3 of same class
Peak content

See waiting pays off
Plus i can't stand playing the same class multiple times
basically making it so having the same class will be the same as not
Damn DI buffed now
I like tho
They can get 9 CD GEMS
Tsk
so raising the floor of two gem
Rosters with DI, Surge, Gravity Training and Assura and Supports in Main 6 eating well
Yup

Whatâs fmh
Full Moon, Spec soul eater
Ah yeah I didnât know what the h stood for
Full Moon Harvest
They should
it's just busy work that will be the same thing
Gem market needs to crash
Cba with that
There is no ~~ support shortage ~~ war in ba sing se
Anyway game saved again, until next month when ppl cry again
if gem market crashes then gotta buy gems

because it's almost surely going back up again after the crash since people realize they overreacted

we had that exact scenario
when T4 was announced right
gems crashed for like a day
and then everyone realized it was stupid adn they went back up again
Overreaction is part of the process
Werenât they already in free fall cuz free 7s
gems down to 362k

I don't think we will have the playerbase where people will freely be able to do that 
honestly
should be buying level 9 gems instead
they're cheaper
but i can't afford em
For whole roster?
I should honestly sell all mine and just buy 7s
I donât plan on doing anymore hard content on release
Rotting awayyyyyyy in yourrrr smelll

curious

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Lost Ark Huge Director Stream Summary
Twitch stream : https://twitch.tv/memorizer92
Discord : https://discord.gg/AyvxxEMps4
Twitter : https://twitter.com/92Memorizer
00:00 Gold inflation
00:38 Gold nerf
01:18 Advanced Honing & Transcendence nerf
02:05 Bussing & Oppa service
03:16 Gem & Multiple same class enjoyers
05:47 Balance patch
05:56 Cut...
DEEES
atm full lvl 6 gems on brawl king should i aim for dmg ones lvl 8 or make all first lvl 7 cd and dmg ?
If memo isnât dooming, no one should be
i've done my yearly doom 
Hi Memo 
Do you feel it too? It's my heartbeat. Extinction.

read it
if it wasnt for the word extinction it would be something else entirely
o7
well, seems we have nothing to discuss in common anymore, and since my 3500+ hours have gone down the well, i'll bid everyone goodbye
?
jover probably blocked lol
that's crazy
permad on main
you actually get perma banned?
@cursive ruin you being fed misinfo thanks to Memo's bad translation?
Someone I know got hit with a perma for saying bozo. 
ok bozo

get rekt toxic 
why would smo blacklist jover 
politics
Congrats on being first to get 500k Strike Raid Drop
portmanteau of Joe and Over. Previous US President

isnt it roster limit

mats are char
its been so long i forgor
when was the last time we got grog
so u can buy it x6
i got banned on official for saying slayer has some nice booba

that server is an absolute joke to me
I still perma banned for saying that i will gatekeep mokokos
since when did she start doing guardians



Holy I thought she quit

@fresh flint when is your next rebrand
Aight bro call down
Nah itâs not when
Itâs what
What will Chris become next

whats better
Why is your SS an ellipse
why cant it be an ellipse
Left I think tho
make your screenshots hearts from now on
R u crit swift or spec?
it will confuse tf out of people
im asura

Doesnât answer my question idk breaker stats
crit swift
Ok then left
it does 
MOMMYARNA?
That is contradictory
đą
2hp in acte 3 ok
No bro.
Wut? Double stats and 3% vs single stats and 3%?
What about it?
i would imagine the livestream is one of the reasons they had to re-film the roadmap for us
yeah that probably was the reason
it would be sic if they dropped the stroke raid early for us too
@tardy tusk what about #mommyarna?
and adjust the ilvl req for it too
Just why.
Have u heard arna voice?
There u go
Nah bro.
That one isnt
Prob you dont understand those
Tell me
Colombian and Argentinian
Argentitian are BWSukunaChefsKiss

the things they consider for gem sharing sound interesting too
Not the first time they've done that
tfw your accent is the one they used for goblins in Lord of the Rings


7k hours still dont have a 100 qual weapon in my entire roster.. how do you guys do it.
how many mokokos must i sacrife to gain the favor of the gods
He's just having fat bastards scent
RNG is gonna RNG
Accent
i have 3 99 qualities i think
How dare you... I just showered.
I have bunch of 96-98qual weapons.. i think i got one 100% quality armor piece somewhere but thats it
First 100q was on Ignite Server Paladin
shower again bro.
Isn't it 1am
9:53 am.
I work nights.
stripper
lmao
not in the fun way
wait is he 
idk

I've said what I do here before, not gonna share though
drug dealer?
Sathoña
allo

his main got permabanned
main gets perma, logs on alt gets 20k says ez, leaves all lost ark discords
totally wasnt fighting through the pain
did he say why he got perma?
didnt he got 1 week?
idk, ig funnel main with alt.
the text said rmt
so he said earlier today that he got permad
and hes a rice eater soo
nice

i thoguht he was a nice person
when you actually read the chat you would think net is a phsych ward escapee that forgot to take his meds
^

true
he had turned discord into his personal diary
net gave us a lot of copypastes to.
like what can we do for u if ur raid mate is dead
why do we care if u wiped
we arent jailed with u
it seemed like lil troll to me
bro its an actual degen.
idk i dont take ppl on internet seriously
if people do it over and over, i take it seriously
once or twice is trolling
3 times is annoying
everything after that i think you believe the shit you say
we talk about endgame raids when every single of his characters until recently were all 1640
like why u talk
ure not running what we are

._.
Not like I have a 1680 running at the highest a 1660 raid & rest running solos/naegir/behe






Anyone got the TL;DR of the KR patch thing? 
There was a reddit post
With the tldr
Nothing burger
AH honing nerf stroke raid nm 1660 10k gold hm 1720 18k gold + rng box starting at 10k goes up to 100k for nm 500k for hm
Gold nerfs from Ivory HM up to Aegir NM
AH nerf
thats the important things
they are looking for changes in gems, like making gem preset skills, making gems free to reroll and potentially being able to switch gems between cd/dmg but thats just ideas
1-20 ah 50% mats cost nerf and 20% gold nerf cost
trans cost 30% nerf
raids up to aegir normal gold nerfed
more info on strike raid
some thoughts on balance patches and gem sharing
Give it a week and game either crashes and burns or they backflip even harder than what happened during the CN launch dramas
When you report a bus advertisement ingame, which report option you actually choose? is it gameplay hinderance, chat spamming or what?
idk how thats bigger than the first ever AH nerfs but ok
also if anyone skips in Act 3 ill get them killed in mechs
the AH nerfs are obviously the highlight
i'll get my char ready for act3 and skip them just for this reason 
KR 1-20 is crazy good now because they also have tradeable AH books.
its also crazy good for us cause we wont get the full amount of gold nerfs
in raids
yep
and the AH 11-20 books cost 7k in KR
did they only nerf aegir normal gold
yea
the livestream was better for us than it was for KR
we are getting the good stuff without the bad stuff
xdd
Even if they gave us some of the nerfs bound gold makes up the difference
oh good
i might be
but i think they will give 1620 nerfs with raid gold nerfs
And KR is slowly waking up to constantly eating shit
also thaemine gotta stop being such a high gold earner istg
im eating good, my main is 1690 with ah10 and my alts are 1670 with ah0 
Gate 4 istg
Smh, well, that's, more than nothing on nerf, think they could have done even more, also no talk about the nerf to 19 pre-T4 honing? 
4 man raid's are welcome for sure 
does the gold nerf kill behemoth
not really
i guess stones
Low-key kinda wild that Director is trying to hype up Kazeros Lore when theyâve spent the last 2 years skipping the majority of his appearances, and have one of his biggest âactual interactions as a characterâ locked behind G4 of Thaemine
it will be 11k
will check more later I guess, but ye.
That box is just in new raid ye?
For Korea. Ours is already lower
isnt he in north kurzan though

HM is 8man btw
the 1720 version anyway
but its only 1 gate
Also, wtf is that difference? 1660 for normal 1720 for hard?
What are they smoking over there 
Yes and ceiling for gold amount depends on difficulty
some good shit for sure
there's 4 ilvls
1660 for 4mn normal
1660 4-man nm
1680 4-man hm
1700 8-man nm
1720 8-man hm iirc

correct
no, 4 man is 1660-1700
8 man is 1680-1720
or some shit like that
this
Which one is clown
So now I gotta hone 2 chars too 1720 

I'm going to die 
are u dumb
What you mean why? 
My mains are doing main raid 
it gives less gold than aegir hm doesnt it
it replaces aegir for like 2 months
u get acces to 4 man hm
When a 1720 raid involves gold gacha fomo. The only clown is you.
Unless youâre Deathboi
I donât
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if the director randomly decides to do extreme raids again i think we will see clown first
u wont fight kakul for another year or two
but yeah that
Why are you showing me gif of AGS worker
That's what I'm doing, getting my main char(s) there 
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