#lost-ark-discussions

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zealous lintel
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playing 3 characters and am done by friday with everything

worldly hawk
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i've seen the light since i came back last year in october

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i said i will not play 6 chars again

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becaue i got burned out last time

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mayyyybe i'll make a 5th when female pally comes out

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we'll see if my mentality on the matter changes

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probably won't

uncut dirge
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i wonder why the bots are gone

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tho

ancient talon
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they banned bots too

uncut dirge
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like is enforcement under this new anti-botting dude way better

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or

ancient talon
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gold farmers also moving to other games

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enforcement has been stepped up big league against rmt and bots

uncut dirge
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do bots think the game isn't worth it anymore

ancient talon
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both

uncut dirge
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you know

ancient talon
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rmt is the cheapest it's ever been

uncut dirge
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if bots stay gone

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then investing in blue T3 fish might be a big long-term play

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because the stock of that wil never replenish

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only time they are fished is by bots

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but i dont trust that bots stay gone

ancient talon
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depends if demand is affected

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could be a new powerpass to 1620

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or anythign that makes t3 obsolete

ancient talon
uncut dirge
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well 1620 wouldn't work

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it woudl have to be 1640

ancient talon
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there still are bots operating

ancient talon
uncut dirge
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no, there's a big difference

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see if the power pass puts us in t4

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theny ou cannot do t3 advanced honing

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if it puts us at 1620 in t3

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then you can

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and that is the biggest driver of t3 fusion mat prices

ancient talon
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t4 AH is already cheaper than t3

uncut dirge
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yeah because t3 mats are expensive

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but if you operate on event materials etc then that's not the case

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not to mention that you could have a character right now in t3 that farms the t3 mats

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that char couldn't be farming t4 mats and stil use the powerpass

ancient talon
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i wouldn' gamble on anything t3 at this point

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remaining playerbase is all hardcore and done with 6 man roster

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new chars will use pass

uncut dirge
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i don't think we're getting a t4 power pas that puts us squarely in t4 before smilegate actually nerfs honing to t4

ancient talon
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there wont be

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but t3 fish demand won't surpass supply

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you won't make 2x

uncut dirge
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well

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i did last time

ancient talon
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so did i

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but it's different now with t4

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and population decrease

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wildsoul came out and t3 fish dropped further

uncut dirge
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yeah it's true

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the market can't bear t3 fish because you need green fish and white fish for it

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and the only ones fishing are bots, which means that they're also increasing the supply of t3 blue fish

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i tried fishing today

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with leap essence it took 26 minutes to expend all 10k energy

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duo logging does it in 5 minutes, solo logging in 10

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all other life skills also in 10-15 minutes

ancient talon
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your call though

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easiest money in the game is investing when bots are high in amount and selling when they're banned

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new era now though

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10k CCU across 3 regions is actually so low

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and that includes a lot of gold farmers

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alt accounts

uncut dirge
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to be honest though, i'm not sure if this really means a reduction in players right now

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it could be just a further reduction in bots since there's less money to be made for botters and the rmt sellers

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we're also in a week that followed a heavy support shortage and probably the toughest party finder experience we've had

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thus people likely did their raids anda ll the other stuff much earlier this week than usual

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i know i did

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so they might just be chilling

ancient talon
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PF has been getting worst weekly for a while now

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100% there is a player reduction

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people are coping that it's just bots and rmters

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a lot of the players are gold farmers/alt farmers too

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i logged in everyday fri-monday and there were only 1-2 brel HM lobbies at any time

uncut dirge
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i think it'll take at least another month befor ethe dust settles from wildsoul

ancient talon
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that being said. game will be playable for an endgame roster for a long time with low CCU

uncut dirge
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im thinking that

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maybe i should just forget abouot the future when kazeros comes out

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and just put all the gold to use for then

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and not try to have a smooth road for beyond that like i've usually done

ancient talon
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find a static and you don't have to worry then

cosmic flame
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All u need is 8 players and game won’t be dead

ancient talon
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kazeros will prob see a big decline in players

uncut dirge
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finding those 8 is hard tho

ancient talon
uncut dirge
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or like

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you find those 8 and then 4 ofthem leave the game before it comes out

cosmic flame
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Gonna gatekeep the rest of poor souls that play this game

uncut dirge
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i really wonde rwhy the game is so popular in korea

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is it really momentum that keeps it going

cosmic flame
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Different culture

ancient talon
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they just love grindy ass games

uncut dirge
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the game isn't grindy though

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not in the traditional korean sense

ancient talon
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and they have a grey market

uncut dirge
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it's... anti-grindy

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i used to play KR MMOs since early 2000s and they were super grindy

cosmic flame
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Lost ark respects my time

uncut dirge
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so late 2000s and early 2010s they designed MMOs to go against that

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and they did this by doing things like adding a stamina system

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where you can get xp/loot only for a certain amount of grinding per day

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this was to ostensibly stop the grinding aspect that they were famous for

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but in reality it made things worse

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because now people felt like they needed to do the stamina every day otherwise they'd fall behind

real basin
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it technically is unlimited grind but nobody wants to do it, except those bots I saw in elgacia farming tome drops

uncut dirge
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since it's impossible to try to catch up by playing more at a later date

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like it used to be in the past

tulip charm
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lost ark may respect your time, but clearly players don't respect their own time when they make 64 alts

uncut dirge
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well, that's the nature of p2w and rmt games where gold rules everything

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imagine if all of our progression systems were like karma, except it doesn't cost any gold, just the karma things we get from brel

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no amount of extra alts would make you progress faster

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so there'd be a lot less incentive to do so

ancient talon
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isn't LOA korea pop declining too?

uncut dirge
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it's hard to say

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inven rankings put it on 7th

ancient talon
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yeah it used to be top 3 no?

uncut dirge
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idk, hasn't been top 3 for a longtime

uncut dirge
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oh wait

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new week means we have a new graph

worldly hawk
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is that playcount?

uncut dirge
worldly hawk
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because if it is it's WILDLY innacuarte

uncut dirge
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this is the latest

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this is inven's list

worldly hawk
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inven's what

uncut dirge
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based on PC bang usage, inven user voting and community responses

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whatever that means

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인벤

'배틀그라운드'가 3월 24일 8주년을 맞아 이벤트에 힘입어 인벤 순위 2위를 탈환했습니다. 온라인 이벤트와 더불어 21일부터 23일까지 성수동에서 'PUBG 팬 페스타 서울' 오프라인 행사도 진행합니다. 한편, '몬스터 헌터 와일즈'는 출시 초반의 흥행에도 불구하고 콘텐츠 부족으로 순위가 하락했으며, 4월 초 업데이트로 반등을 노릴 예정입니다.

cosmic flame
worldly hawk
cosmic flame
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What?

worldly hawk
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because there is noway dota2 is #29

cosmic flame
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Inven is like reddit for Korean

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It’s the most popular invens

cosmic flame
worldly hawk
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popular invens =/= the game is played

cosmic flame
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I don’t think anyone is implying that

uncut dirge
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iirc this isn't a random forum post

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this is more like a news articles section

worldly hawk
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yes

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yes aeroon did

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exactly do that

uncut dirge
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and they just publish an article every week about game stats

supple thicket
uncut dirge
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also i think this is the pcbang usage list

worldly hawk
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CS is #1 by far

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then league

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then pubg

supple thicket
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warframd is also always top 20

worldly hawk
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lost ark is not even top 30

uncut dirge
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how do you know

worldly hawk
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this is how i know

zealous lintel
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inven =/= steam

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you are mixing things

uncut dirge
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err

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we're talking in korea

zealous lintel
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one is korean

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one is west

worldly hawk
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why tf are we even talking about korea

zealous lintel
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aerroon posted inven

worldly hawk
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it doesn't concern or affect us in any way

zealous lintel
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true

uncut dirge
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because we were talking about how lost ark is doing in korea

real basin
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I think the only way they can devalue gold and let people not feel the need to run 6 raid chars is tying progression directly to raid drops like other games where you can easily play 1 char. Though that would mean putting all of those mats in the store for whales to buy because they're not going to pivot to aiming at lots of small fish since it would require significantly more changes to get people back in the game.

zealous lintel
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well except when the game is doing so bad, they close down doors in korea which would mean EOS here as well

uncut dirge
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for something lke that to work

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we finish all previous raid progression systems when new raid comes out

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so the only thing we'd be doing is just that one raid

zealous lintel
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this got displayed greatly by ignite servers

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everyone and their grandma made a second/third roster or even multi accs

uncut dirge
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i think what's more likely to help is to stop this scarcity of resources all the time

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but then they wouldn't make as much money so idk

zealous lintel
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the whole thing about "resepects your time" does hold but its the people being abnormal

supple thicket
uncut dirge
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i can't speak for others but

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a lot of my decisions on how i play revolves around party finder time spent

real basin
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That's why so many games would take their skin system, put all of them in the shop with a couple of rare ones that are FOMO once or periodically available, make them mostly untradeable, and get people to spend $20 here and $30 there to get cool skins.

subtle cliff
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Should I delete my 1640 Artillerist

zealous lintel
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i just play whats fun to me. one of the reasons i have only 3 characters

uncut dirge
real basin
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But you need a lot of players and new skins regularly for that to be your main income

subtle cliff
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I'm deleting it

worldly hawk
uncut dirge
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even if i like playing a character

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but if i have to spend an hour in party finder then it makes it unfun

supple thicket
uncut dirge
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regardless how much i like the char

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and getting statics to cover all of this is an exercise in management - also not as fun

zealous lintel
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well, thats the thing. make your characters you play strong enough. sucks for new players or long time returnees but it is what it is

uncut dirge
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that makes it feel like a job when you've gotta show up at a specific time etc

zealous lintel
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the only thing i have as advice is trying to socialize.

supple thicket
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💀

uncut dirge
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and peoplew ant lots of gold to do that

zealous lintel
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but this thing seems to be abnormal these days as well

worldly hawk
uncut dirge
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so they make more chars and rosters etc

worldly hawk
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so i stopped trying

uncut dirge
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it's that lobbies don't fill with supports and you just sit there

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falling asleep

subtle cliff
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I will never be toxic or dismissive towards you Desert

zealous lintel
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i think it is possible but you would need to go through trial and error which can be daunting

subtle cliff
uncut dirge
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some raids you spend more time in pf than actually playing the raid

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and even if you finally find your static where you can just go and play the game

zealous lintel
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the playerbase is just too small

uncut dirge
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3-6 months goes by, people quit and you're slipping back to square 1

zealous lintel
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would have been a different story if we would rock at least 2023 player numbers

supple thicket
subtle cliff
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What does your roster look like rn as a new player

zealous lintel
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which many people dont want to take anymore

worldly hawk
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i tried and failed miserably

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you will NEVER catch up

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ever

zealous lintel
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the game is long overdue for its own lfr/dungeon finder

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or squish t3 completley

worldly hawk
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play at your own pace, don't rush things and block the people trying to tell you otherwise

uncut dirge
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sold mats

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feels good

zealous lintel
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put all t3 power systems into armor or baseline kit

worldly hawk
supple thicket
zealous lintel
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should just get rid of it.

gritty dagger
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wipe mech spam on farmable raids killed the game for new players

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none wanted to risk being jail 5h

worldly hawk
subtle cliff
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I saw a learning party for kayangel recently and joined for fun, during G2 they were wiping on the colour mech and some sweat started to flame the newbie, felt so bad for them I had to step on and tell them to fuck off because they were staying silent Sadge

supple thicket
zealous lintel
worldly hawk
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lost ark isn'T worht it

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also

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you won't get far with the money you're planning to spend

zealous lintel
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the only raid really needing to execute many "wipe" mechs is echidna as of new

supple thicket
supple thicket
subtle cliff
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What ilevel is it rn

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I'm just curious

supple thicket
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not very high, started 2d ago and 30 ish

subtle cliff
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Ohhh

supple thicket
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I'm new new

subtle cliff
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Yea

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You're new new new

worldly hawk
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btw if you spend like 400€ on the game rn

real basin
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then swiping won't do anything unless you plan on buying powerpasses tbh

supple thicket
worldly hawk
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it probably won't even get you to 1680

subtle cliff
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Yeah

supple thicket
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Hmm

worldly hawk
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trust me it's not worth it

subtle cliff
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Do not swipe if you're planning on playing without any event support

paper brook
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my account get banned transfer 100K gold to main acc so sad

zealous lintel
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swiping isn the way to go

supple thicket
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I mean I will be playing the game for a while, am mostly done with warframe and now I'm only waiting for a new prime resurgence for new primes and crafting my daily forma. now I'm switching to lost ark since I got nothing to do on warframe

paper brook
worldly hawk
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and i've used express events

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plus i haven't spend a dime

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anyways i have to get groceries

paper brook
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good way to reduce player and this game became BOT game

subtle cliff
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I think it's been a little over a year for me and I'm at 1701, 1660, x2 1640 (I'm giga lazy)

worldly hawk
supple thicket
subtle cliff
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He's in it for the long run

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God speed soldier

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🫡

paper brook
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who want ever cry about game then i just move on to other game

real basin
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wait until he tries to do cooking for horizontals deadge

supple thicket
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I am very much a long time gamer, I put in like 2k hours into a minecraft mmo in 2020

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lmao

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can't di too much since uni is starting later this year

gritty dagger
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how u gonna reduce 8,6k online

worldly hawk
supple thicket
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quit in 2021 after some hacker stole my hyperion

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played destiny 2 afterwards for 200h before switching to warframe

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and ig I hv 3000h on genshin

subtle cliff
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My condolences

supple thicket
real basin
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these numbers make me want to get a standing desk and a little treadmill to walk on so when I see 2k hours I know most of that was also light exercise and I don't feel so bad lmao

subtle cliff
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I just make sure to go to the gym

supple thicket
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I wanna start calisthenics soon

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I just skipped a bunch of school

swift tree
swift tree
subtle cliff
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om

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Maybe it's time to get some swimming in

supple thicket
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sounds like a skill issue

ancient talon
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changed my life

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standing desk + a "walking pad"

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foldable

swift tree
pure spoke
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guys what lego card pack do I use If I got lwc and los already ?

ancient talon
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I get 2-3 hours of walking every day

swift tree
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You can farm Kazeros cards now

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Wishful*

pure spoke
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wishful ok got it

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tyty

subtle cliff
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No mainstat deadge

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Guess I'm stuck with this for a while

swift tree
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unless you're going for min/max bonuses, the new cards drop from Wishful. Galatur/Luen/Sien are different story but meh

supple thicket
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Gambling?

swift tree
subtle cliff
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DE

subtle cliff
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I only play DE

swift tree
subtle cliff
swift tree
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just go swiftness pistoleer /s

ancient talon
subtle cliff
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Yeah

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It's fine

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The dmg lines make up for it

ancient talon
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there's no way 100 spec can replace those lines

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maybe atkspd

supple thicket
subtle cliff
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I'm never using BT again unless I get more adrenaline books

ancient talon
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it's actually a great bracer. 1st world problems

subtle cliff
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Missing crits on T skill tilted me too much

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Going back to mpf

supple thicket
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chat I should save my 5d of crystalline aura, right?

subtle cliff
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Yes

supple thicket
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in general I'm saving everything I got from prime

subtle cliff
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Hoard

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Are we getting the road map next week

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Need to know when the next raid comes out Susge

swift tree
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Probably June

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May or June

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Echidna was late May

real basin
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I just wanna get +19 before the next gear reset happens

swift tree
real basin
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I have +10, just need to hone up to +19 now and then eventually +40

subtle cliff
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I'm at +18 with full AH and +20 weapon atm

real basin
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I suspect we'll have a long time to get +40 before reset though

subtle cliff
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I love advanced Honing

keen copper
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glad i did 1-20 ah in t3 wahoo

real basin
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I'm honing my 2nd char to T4 this next reset wahoo can start to funnel to my main, need those reds

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may also hone a 1600 to 1610 to get chest/legs done and get more veskal drops

uncut dirge
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or +20

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because t4 is a bit unusual in the structure compared to the past

swift tree
uncut dirge
swift tree
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+20 and 10 advanced honing

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I mean T4 honing has been scuffed from the get go

uncut dirge
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i think advanced honing isnt gonna factor into it

swift tree
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1700 is when you go up to the next tier of chaos, next guardian and next set of cubes and Act 4 minimum item level.
Would make sense to be next soft-reset

meager hill
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act 4 ilvl is unknown

swift tree
swift tree
meager hill
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was it?

swift tree
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I mean either it's 1690 or 1700

woeful cradle
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hi there, I'm curious, would you recommend playin and starting a new lost ark adventure ? I played when it was launched, but felt too much fomo so I have quit.
Thanks for your answers, also, do you know if new players are playing together here too ?

swift tree
woeful cradle
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im fine with playing kinda solo if the content allows it

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but im also fine meeting people to play with

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i was really interested playing the drone/gunner guy, i like the theme

swift tree
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Scouter's in a bit of a weird spot, still fun to play and does good damage just not as popular

woeful cradle
wicked blade
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AT is fun and mechanically challenging

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EVO is bottom of the barrel,most boring thing ever

woeful cradle
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ill play at then

supple thicket
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can someone give me a rough outline on how I should progress? i know msq first but what after?

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just started like 2d ago

woeful cradle
supple thicket
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that's my way

wicked blade
woeful cradle
wicked blade
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Use this website

wicked blade
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I barely do them

woeful cradle
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hm

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what are your fav content activities ? im curious

wicked blade
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They are so much nerfed to the point it feels like completely different raid

woeful cradle
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i want engaging and fun activities

wicked blade
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And honing

woeful cradle
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I'm the person that loves doing like solo dungeons in guild wars you know

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because it makes you create interesting ideas

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and play with the limit, to become creative is a thing i like

wicked blade
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Nah, I only find it fun to run raids with other people

woeful cradle
wicked blade
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Playing LOA solo, is... Well meh, at least for me

wicked blade
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8 people or 16 people (Behemoth) raids

swift tree
woeful cradle
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what is honing ?

supple thicket
wicked blade
woeful cradle
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im just asking for curiosity

swift tree
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basically upgrading your gear using Shards/Silver/Stones/Leaps/Fusions

wicked blade
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Cancer RNG gear upgrade

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I'm not salty at all for pitying weapon

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Not at all

woeful cradle
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why my poor soul so

vocal pollen
swift tree
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From level 50 / item 500 and above you upgrade your gear using this

wicked blade
woeful cradle
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I played Mu Intensity, you know, I come from far

wicked blade
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Slowly

woeful cradle
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MU rng upgrade was same, and you lose your item

swift tree
wicked blade
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Wait till he hits elixirs and transcendence

swift tree
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You dont lose your item here, luckily

woeful cradle
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see

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its not as bad as MU

swift tree
woeful cradle
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so my poor soul has probably seen things that are darker

wicked blade
uncut dirge
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grats

wicked blade
swift tree
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Forgot how weirdly good the Delphi music is

wicked blade
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This turned out pretty good

woeful cradle
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we had jewel of bless, jewel of soul and all that kind of stuff to upgrade, whats the matter

wicked blade
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That is full ATX motherboard and it looks small

woeful cradle
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item could break, its not a competition but im not the poor soul you think HAHA

wicked blade
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We are all poor souls here

woeful cradle
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ive visited hell

wicked blade
swift tree
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yeah, Lost Ark is basically not as brutal as other KR MMOs but still KR-esque in progression

wicked blade
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Yup

woeful cradle
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nah, AI is already consuming art, so nothing could be worse

wicked blade
swift tree
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also time locked, which can be ass

wicked blade
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BDO is now better then Lost Ark

swift tree
wicked blade
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Holy

swift tree
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so many AI slop on "Indie Games Groups" and its someone making another crappy visual novel using AI coom

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2nd one tonight wahoo

vocal pollen
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rmt

woeful cradle
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i remember buying the ship in the game

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is that still a thing useful

swift tree
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in going from a - b, yeah

lunar hedge
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The skin? Yea

woeful cradle
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yeah the skin i guess

lunar hedge
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Auto sail boost

woeful cradle
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to travel quicker i guess

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or auto yea

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i wish it was a good investment for now

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3years after

swift tree
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I mean it's still kinda the same as it was

woeful cradle
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i know

lunar hedge
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It works better when it's on autoroute. It still is used to this day

woeful cradle
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but i don't have to pay it now

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so it feels cool

swift tree
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just means you can get and do something whilst moving from A to B without having to deal with needing to press the "move faster" button.

woeful cradle
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like hiding money somewhere and finding it 3 years after

swift tree
woeful cradle
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idk

swift tree
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If you already have market/farm island you're doing better than new players.

woeful cradle
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idk lol, can't remember what i had in the game

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just have 90 hours

swift tree
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oh lol

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you might not even be Tier 3 on that character then

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depending

woeful cradle
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idk what is it, so yea

swift tree
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If you reached the hawaii style place

woeful cradle
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can i have my ship between multiple characters ?

swift tree
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ship is unlocked roster-wide (yes)

woeful cradle
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ok

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would you have a nice guide for the nowadays content to do and follow ?

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so i don't feel lost

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I mean, on youtube there are plenty, but which one would you recommend

swift tree
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Basically everything under the "Progression" stub of maxroll

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Maxroll has a lot of good progression/horizontal guides.
Your "forward progress" is pretty much just keep following the orange/blue quests.

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For class guides, I'd check Nexus

lunar hedge
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Hm, they just updated a few days ago

woeful cradle
#

because i remember having a lot of twitch gifts and stuff

swift tree
#

It will be, as your roster is tied to a specific server

woeful cradle
#

ok si i might need to stick to my server, right

swift tree
woeful cradle
#

yeah arcturus

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im in game here

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so i can see

lunar hedge
#

Based Arcturus

woeful cradle
#

oh, seems like i can transfer my characters to any serv, not sure

lunar hedge
#

You can't

woeful cradle
#

oh yeah i just realised

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i have to transfer them here, so i can create a new one

#

should i activate the power pass?

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game says its recommended

lunar hedge
#

It's recommended since you probably have all of your characters way behind. The power pass takes you further into just before the game endgame at item level 1585

woeful cradle
#

my biggest char is 340 lol

lunar hedge
#

Plus it's also a good time to register a character in the hyper challenge express even- holy you really are all the way back

woeful cradle
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i played 90h when the game launched

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that's it

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leveling competition makes me feel sick and bad, so yeah

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just wanna get fun

lunar hedge
#

Ok so just take your characters out of the storage and pick a class you want to play as your main

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And use the powerpass on that main

woeful cradle
#

ill still be able to level it up and learn how to play it ?

swift tree
#

yeah

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The storage was just a way of them dealing with players with 2 rosters being merged

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since they merged full servers together

woeful cradle
#

nah i mean power pass

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do i unlock all spells

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or can i level up normaly still

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i would hate to get everything instantly

lunar hedge
#

All skills are already unlocked for you, just a matter of skill points

swift tree
#

it will auto complete a bunch of one-time purple quests that mean you miss out on story/plot. beyond that, the trade off is the progression event it boosts you to has some good rewards

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Arkesia Tour gives you most of the missing skill points

woeful cradle
#

Susge but will i have like all spells that i have to try all together to see which one feels good

swift tree
#

yes

woeful cradle
#

because its the point of the leveling

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unlocking spells

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imo

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idk

swift tree
#

you get all your skills at 50, stuff above 50 just lets you augment them

woeful cradle
#

whats wrong if i create a character from 0

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would that be bad or

lunar hedge
#

Nothing wrong

swift tree
#

I mean its up to you

vocal pollen
#

the power pass skips MONTHS of progression

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literal months

lunar hedge
#

Just a matter of your own preference

swift tree
#

literally just how you want to play the game

woeful cradle
#

but do i play the game to skip content Susge

swift tree
supple thicket
#

?trust

meager hill
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Thonk it's not really months

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albeit it's still over a month to get akkan armor

supple thicket
#

aaa I can't?

woeful cradle
#

alright if its 2 weeks, whatever

swift tree
woeful cradle
#

i'll make a character from 0

vocal pollen
#

5 weeks for full Akkan armor

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a few more weeks for Brel armor prob

swift tree
sleek rune
#

Hi i need help for tarsila pls

swift tree
vocal pollen
#

unless you do hard mode, it is

woeful cradle
#

I like the feeling of progression, this is it lol

meager hill
#

you can complete brel in like 2 weeks

swift tree
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It's 2 weeks for Brel gear, 3 max for Akkan

woeful cradle
#

i dont want to speed up, otherwise i just dont play

supple thicket
vocal pollen
#

how though

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I just did it on my Aero, clearing all 3 gates every week, took far more than 3

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unless you do hard mode

meager hill
#

3 gates? Thinkge

vocal pollen
#

3 gate of Akkan, no?

meager hill
#

ah

lunar hedge
#

3-2

meager hill
#

akkan

lunar hedge
#

Heh

woeful cradle
#

ok now where are my twitch rewards lol wahoo

meager hill
#

yeah, akkan is 5 weeks solo/nm

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or 6? smth like that

vocal pollen
#

took me 5

vocal pollen
#

yes

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that's with buying chests, and solo mode shop

supple thicket
#

can you still get trust status by buying sth in-game?

vocal pollen
#

no

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?trusted

tawny gateBOT
#

Amazon changed how trusted status is obtained, the old way is "You need steam trusted / non limited and enabling 2fa on steam guard app", it's now an in-house system not reliant on steam. All the info they have given us on how to get it is "Play the game and you get it eventually".
Amazon Games Trusted Info

woeful cradle
#

damn, the female warrior has big tidies Weirdga

lunar hedge
#

Wait till you see female Paladin

supple thicket
woeful cradle
#

i use tro play martialist

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he so badass

lunar hedge
vocal pollen
#

unless you do hard mode Akkan, even buying chests + solo mode shop, it takes 5 weeks

vocal pollen
cursive ruin
#

hel yea

supple thicket
swift tree
cursive ruin
#

4 more what

swift tree
#

3 more mb

cursive ruin
#

oh the achievement

#

just farming demon damage

lunar hedge
#

Net

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We must save people from the evil demons

cursive ruin
#

that's my name! (laugh soundtrack)

swift tree
lunar hedge
cursive ruin
lunar hedge
#

Yea

cursive ruin
#

weigagagagaga

lunar hedge
cursive ruin
#

why do i smell rust

swift tree
vocal pollen
#

so looks like Brel can be done in 2 weeks, if you do G1-4, Akkan 5 weeks, doing gate 1-3, on normal / solo, so 7 weeks right there, plus any time it takes you to get "to" that point, plus, newer players won't have access to materials to skip up rapidly once they hit T3, unless they swipe, so wouldn't say my "months of progression" is too out there

meager hill
#

technically 6 weeks

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you can start akkan in the same week you finish brel

vocal pollen
#

that's fair

#

I haven't paid attention, but think the relic t3 armor can be done in 2 resets, since Vykas needs 35 mats, so while it "is" streamlined, it still does take time

lunar hedge
#

Valtan somehow too hard for new solo players

vocal pollen
#

xdd

#

tru

meager hill
#

the relic armor doesn't "really" matter

vocal pollen
#

so many quit at Valtan / Vykas due to hand issues

#

you need it to craft Brel armor

#

so it does matter

meager hill
#

you can go from no relic to full brel

vocal pollen
#

????

meager hill
#

you need it to transfer to brel

vocal pollen
#

not for new players

meager hill
#

sure

vocal pollen
lunar hedge
#

Is that actually the part of Arkesia tour

vocal pollen
#

I... I dun think so? shruge

lunar hedge
#

Never seen it before with what it is now

swift tree
#

It's for making a full set of relic gear

vocal pollen
#

point is, whole thing started w/ someone w/ highest char ever being mid 300s asking what downsides are to not using powerpass

#

they would have to go through all the steps and what not

swift tree
#

to some people that's not a bad thing

vocal pollen
#

I understand that, my statement that it would be months of progression isn't wrong though

#

and that's fair if they want to go through story and go slow

#

was simply stating that powerpass skips that

meager hill
#

fair enough, although the powerpass also skips a whole bunch of roster wide quests that you never get to replay

vocal pollen
#

that is fair

meager hill
#

especially now that it's up to south kurzan

#

there's a lot of story you never get to experience

vocal pollen
#

one of the worst things that you get to skip with it honestly, is not being in the 1340-1415 ilvl deadzone

vocal pollen
#

where you need Orehas to hone, but have.... very few sources of gold

#

and I tel people that they prob have to go and do islands / unas for bound gold and craft bound orehas

#

and they just get mad

meager hill
#

islands? you mean the daily islands?

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otherwise there's no more gold on any side content

vocal pollen
#

the random gold islands

meager hill
#

isn't gold island unbound gold? Thonk

lunar hedge
#

Ye

vocal pollen
#

can buy Orehas with that

woeful cradle
#

i have a lot of stuff to take

vocal pollen
#

unless restricted from using market at that point

supple thicket
#

can someone tell me the difference between bound and unbound gold?

vocal pollen
#

xdd

lunar hedge
vocal pollen
#

unbound usable for anything, bound usable only for like, char progression things

swift tree
supple thicket
woeful cradle
lunar hedge
#

Bonswa

supple thicket
swift tree
#

Une Benediction

woeful cradle
#

french is just a language for nobles

#

if you don't talk french, you smell

supple thicket
#

I speak French but I do not like the French

lunar hedge
#

Oh no

#

Anyway

woeful cradle
#

we just smell from ass

#

perfume were created because nobles smell

supple thicket
swift tree
supple thicket
swift tree
vocal pollen
#

send gif :^)

cursive ruin
#

i feel like balthor's va is wei's va

lunar hedge
#

How come

cursive ruin
#

sounds close to him

swift tree
#

it's that euro show where people have to guess what they're smelling and there's that one thing

vocal pollen
#

ahh

#

that one

supple thicket
#

I hv really bad gifs that I can not share

#

mostly person above speaking

cursive ruin
#

wait

#

not balthor

#

i meant the old hag shandi

#

wei sounds like shandi but without pretending to be old

lunar hedge
#

The Ass connoisseur

supple thicket
vocal pollen
#

is Levantalo a guardian in KR yet?

cursive ruin
#

lovely

supple thicket
#

get good

cursive ruin
#

that vaguely resembles aegir

vocal pollen
wraith ice
#

is there anything wrong with thaemine gate 2? bfr going in to boss i got a fine ping and then when i fight the boss, im lagging as fuck

swift tree
#

lightning effects, turn your shadows and particles down?

lunar hedge
#

That's weird, I'm lagging as shit in the waiting room for g2 but it's fine in the fight

wraith ice
swift tree
#

skill issue then

#

idk

wraith ice
#

hwat KEKW

supple thicket
#

I|m german

#

oop wrong keyboard

#

**I'm german

supple thicket
lunar hedge
#

Yeah ik. But I think the aegir is just about as big as a colossal.

cursive ruin
lunar hedge
#

Which makes the pre-fight cutscenes so funny

#

Aegir is huge but it moves so fucking fast

supple thicket
cursive ruin
#

ye

#

this is so cringe

meager hill
#

damn, solo leveling is out of the circulation now? Sadge

vocal pollen
#

all the 006

#

NA-W just has lots of lobbies that are simply titled "afk pw xyz"

cursive ruin
#

who designed this

#

is there no way to fix it

meager hill
#

just get another piece xdd

meager hill
#

that's what bus lobbies were named

#

solo leveling 006 xdd

burnt tree
#

i only saw like 2 of those KEKDog

meager hill
#

I've seen a lot of them

blissful lintel
#

Hey, is it possible to buy a founders pack on steam and then buy it again on Amazon?

#

I know I can't buy it twice on steam

cursive ruin
#

it's crazy how 80% of my blocklist is supports

vocal pollen
#

wouldn't let you redeem it most likely

blissful lintel
#

Ah, so you redeem it on steam then?

#

Oh well

torn ether
#

solo leveling ep 14 xdd

left maple
#

Help this

cursive ruin
#

that's not right

cursive ruin
burnt tree
lunar hedge
wicked blade
lunar hedge
#

Nuclear

wicked blade
#

I'm so clean with cable managment

supple thicket
worldly hawk
wicked blade
worldly hawk
#

giant fans

wicked blade
#

I gonna place 6 more

lunar hedge
#

Boy

supple thicket
#

also a deep cool fan for the cpu I assume?

wicked blade
#

Yes

#

Until my AIO comes

wicked blade
supple thicket
supple thicket
wicked blade
#

360

#

420 is overkill

#

I'm not running I9

supple thicket
#

the gpu kinda doesnt fit

wicked blade
#

Oh it does

#

It has 400mm space

#

I have extra 104mm left

supple thicket
#

just get an air cooler

wicked blade
#

Naaah

cursive ruin
#

futa

wicked blade
#

For 80€

#

AIO is da way

#

Got a sale

#

For 40% off

supple thicket
#

Okay nvm u got a good deal

#

Bought an aio for good air cooler price ish

fresh flint
wicked blade
#

I'm rocking that 1080 TI 11gb

#

I wanted to get 9070 XT

#

But price here is 1000€

#

Gotta wait for sale

supple thicket
#

I might get a 6900 GRE later this year

#

when I moved

wicked blade
#

Just get 7900 GRE

supple thicket
#

yh typo

wicked blade
#

Yeah

supple thicket
#

there is no 6900 GRE

wicked blade
#

I may get that aswell

#

Because it is on sale

#

Around 500€

supple thicket
#

I feel like a cheater

#

I usually buy nvidia

wicked blade
#

Nvidia is trash

#

Fuck that

supple thicket
#

but rn they're too badly priced to buy

#

💔

wicked blade
#

I have no brand loyalty

#

I just buy what is best

#

Fuck brand loyalty

#

lmao

supple thicket
#

yk

wicked blade
#

Nah, AMD is great now

#

I love their control centre

#

Such a great tool

#

And FSR 4.0 beats Nvidia DLSS

#

I can't

supple thicket
#

A friend owns like 10 different GPUs

wicked blade
#

It wins more then it loses

supple thicket
#

it is worse by a margin

wicked blade
#

But fake frames are juck

#

F that

supple thicket
#

Fake frames r getting better n better though

#

just input lag is noticeable

wicked blade
#

Yeah, which is a deal breaker for me

#

So I will never use that shit

cursive ruin
#

fake frames

#

just use dlss man

wicked blade
#

I want raw power, not some garbage AI upscaling trash on a gpu that is worse then older series

wicked blade
cursive ruin
#

no you're dumb if you think dlss = fake frames

#

= input delay

supple thicket
#

DLSS is not only fake frames

cursive ruin
#

it's not at all fake frames

#

there's a reason almost every game with dlss lets you choose whether or not u want frame gen

#

all dlss does is make your game low res and then use AI to upscale your game

#

it causes as much input delay as just increasing your graphic settings

#

btw

#

what does azena say in echidna?

#

she says "Ephernia... (?) wipe them out"

torn ether
#

for some reason we have the cheapest 9070xt KEKW

wicked blade
#

Import tax would kill me

wicked blade
#

Like MHW

#

I refuse to play any game with shit optimization just because devs are lazy

cosmic flame
#

When u actually cast azena

supple thicket
cursive ruin
#

oh lovely

#

couldn't they have waited until boss died

#

?

supple thicket
#

there is also frame generation starting from the 4th generation that basically predicts an in between frame using ai

cursive ruin
#

if it needs dlss to be playable then it's just badly optimized

wicked blade
#

Yeah

lunar hedge
cosmic flame
lunar hedge
#

What you violated bro

cosmic flame
#

You got shot?

supple thicket
cursive ruin
#

i was typing and a guy said "why u talking"

#

so i replied

#

"i hope u get cured from ur cancer"

cosmic flame
#

I was just saying you were squeaky clean

lunar hedge
#

Aiya

cursive ruin
#

that's like the most timid shit i've ever written

cursive ruin
#

hold on let me check if it's perma

#

i doubt it's perma for this though

#

i mean i hope

cursive ruin
#

it's 1 week

neon cedar
#

Toxic

cursive ruin
#

ok next time i wont say i hope u get cured

#

i'll just say get cancer instead

#

time to hop on my other account

torn ether
#

games gone too soft Deadge

lunar hedge
#

A whole ass WEEK

vocal pollen
#

Good thing you have all your alt rosters amirite

cursive ruin
#

yeah

lunar hedge
#

"Hate Speech"

cosmic flame
#

Nah he deffo snitched on your ass

lunar hedge
#

"Character Naming Policy"

supple thicket
cosmic flame
#

Because I said

#

Way worse shit

cursive ruin
#

yeah he did say he was gonna report but like so what

#

wait what do you mean character naming policy

#

did i just get banned for something completely unrelated

#

none of my characters names are bad

cosmic flame
#

Worst case scenario they force u to change

torn ether
#

what was ur ign

cosmic flame
#

And send a name ticket

lunar hedge
#

The hell is this then

cursive ruin
#

these are all my main acc's character names

#

none of it bad

#

gonna appeal this shit

torn ether
#

zaza

cosmic flame
#

What were u playing on

cursive ruin
#

joe

cosmic flame
#

But try it

supple thicket
lunar hedge
#

If it reported based on what you said it'd be under Abusive Language

supple thicket
supple thicket
lunar hedge
cursive ruin
#

it should say abusive

#

cuz i did in fact abuse someone

#

but like

#

OH

#

nononon wait

lunar hedge
#

Lmao???

cursive ruin
#

this ban is 90% justified

lunar hedge
#

You figured it out?

#

Oh

cursive ruin
#

i did bypass filter and typed a bad word but that was like 1 week ago

cursive ruin
#

so i got reported for saying "get cancer"