#lost-ark-discussions
cosmic flame
mortal burrow
then you add on the %'s
charred void
ally dmg has more value on bard than other 2s
queen grail
Sure, but Artist has bubbles too, so what's higher priority, Ally AtkPower or Ally DamageEnch 
charred void
ally atk more value on other 2s than bard
gleaming pendant
charred void
mm > hl
mortal burrow
Sure, but Artist has bubbles too, so what's higher priority, Ally AtkPower or Al...
nono but artist doesn't have a 15% dmg buff
while bard does
queen grail
nono but artist doesn't have a 15% dmg buff
mortal burrow
wait was it 15%
burnt tree
mortal burrow
or was it higher
cosmic flame
mortal burrow
ye it's 15%
charred void
"bare" minimum you want is MM on all accs beside neck H brand
storm bronze
si no hablas español te largas
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/purple-role-silence-silence-purple-role-gif-1773422998113...
silence urself too then
mortal burrow
"bare" minimum you want is MM on all accs beside neck H brand
MM?
charred void
mid mid
mortal burrow
oh
burnt tree
aka purple
mortal burrow
i thought you meant match making I was so confused
storm bronze
Mid or afk
mortal burrow
or something else
cosmic flame
silence urself too then
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/the-strongest-sage-iris-dragon-girl-confused-i-dont-know-...
ure a purple role too
cosmic flame
ure a purple role too
No I’m not
queen grail
M/H Ring's are like 300k @charred void will have to wait a bit, neck is one thing but I think I'll wait with getting new ring's until they are way lower.
I got 2 ring's with H/- Right now so It's fine, [7,5% DmgEnch]
cosmic flame
Still would gatekeep u
charred void
i didnt update my accs since release
gleaming pendant
queen grail
i didnt update my accs since release
burnt tree
https://imgur.com/6DQMPwh
queen grail
I mean, I'm just starting to slowly look for H/M's on my two mains
charred void
at least you got 8% brand neck now, i respect that
queen grail
at least you got 8% brand neck now, i respect that
charred void
it was fucking disgusting ok 
i already feel bad for my 4% brand neck on the 1670 alt
gleaming pendant
https://tenor.com/view/karina-short-hair-gif-17332830017230515486
mortal burrow
Btw did they change solo mode echidna to give t4 mats now?
cosmic flame
Btw did they change solo mode echidna to give t4 mats now?
Yes
mortal burrow
pog
cosmic flame
For a while too
mortal burrow
For a while too
actually?
tulip surge
I somehow managed to skip the 2nd "go to the non-die zone" at 1hp brel g4 
on ilvl
mortal burrow
Were the t3 mats a bug?
gleaming pendant
burnt tree
https://quickvids.app/UeQSqrLe
damn murder
swift tree
It was a confirmed thing that after Tier 4 dropped, Echidna would drop entirely T4 mats
Since she’s considered a Kazeros/T4 raid
burnt tree
queen grail
it was fucking disgusting ok <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
It was fine, and I did what I said I was doing 
pointless to buy and then re-buy later when prices are a bit better and now I find a decent deal with high quality H/M and I snagged it 
mortal burrow
It was a confirmed thing that after Tier 4 dropped, Echidna would drop entirely ...
but solo mode dropped t3 mats
queen grail
Now, the quest to do it on my Wardancer, I forgot how shit her Acc's was jesus, L/0/0/L/L 
mortal burrow
for some reason
when it came out
idk why
idk
maybe im hallucinating
iveb een in g0 behe for like 1 hour
queen grail
@charred void Asked for a list of what to look for on my main and I got this sent 
charred void
queen grail
<:5Head:852993188671520798>
I'm tempted to just buy full M/M on my Main and call it a day until T5.
Full M/M Is like 900k+-
One H/M Is like 800k+ just one.
swift tree
but solo mode dropped t3 mats
Solo Echidna drops T4 mats if you’re T4, T3 if you’re T3
inner merlin
i hate behemoth lobbies man
1640 supports are just joining mokoko or whale parties
been sitting in a lobby for 10min now with 13/16 with not a single request from support
cosmic flame
It do be like that
uncut dirge
amazing
i went to field boss and it was impossible to do it on channel 1
very good system
someone parked a character AFK just outside the circle
so at some random point during the kill the boss would aggro him, walk out of the circle and reset
and there's nothing you can do about it
because if he walks out of the circle he resets, so the boss doesn't even kill that player
he can basically perpetually do it for however long he AFKs there
inner merlin
at this point i might as wait for day of reset cause im never gonna get a party
2nd time i’ve waited with 0 supports in a 14/16 now a 13/16 lobby
great disbanded
15min wasted
inner merlin
previous one was 30 because i was leader
and i even had a 1680 in that party with a rat friend but still no supports
uncut dirge
yeah okay that's pretty bad
dull obsidian
https://tenor.com/view/purple-role-silence-silence-purple-role-gif-1773422998113...
LIME GREEN
dull obsidian
inner merlin
some semi new player let me into his mokoko friend party ig ill take it 
inner merlin
wasn’t asking to be carried but ig i will
cosmic flame
average yorgh gameplay
dull obsidian
gleaming pendant
<@&938198046896955542>
lunar hedge
inner merlin
how is it bad 
gleaming pendant
Word filter 
uncut dirge
err
mystic inlet
i hate behemoth lobbies man
Sadly behe parties are the worst in the game
lunar hedge
Sounds bot to me
mystic inlet
The moment my weapon is done with trans, I'm done with behe, useless raid since people are demanding as fuck there
lunar hedge
inner merlin
Sadly behe parties are the worst in the game
yeah supports just want to be carried
mystic inlet
Not just supports, in general
inner merlin
most of them i’m pretty sure don’t know how to play
mystic inlet
Honestly they should fix the skipping part, then they won't be so picky 🙂
inner merlin
honestly just rework g1 to remove mech so we can just do boss can probably fix a decent bit of gate keeping
mystic inlet
Yeah
inner merlin
i got a warning 
keen copper
wait remove g1 mech in behe? 
mystic inlet
Ye the guardians
inner merlin
i will refrain from using words that can be seen out of context then ig 
its not even a mech
wintry depot
The guardians arent the reason why people gatekeep
inner merlin
not the biggest reason but i can see it helping
wintry depot
People were gatekeeping before that
cosmic flame
Go back to sleep @wintry depot
wintry depot
Because most rats will just eat every attacks and g2 is very annoying
inner merlin
is the warning thing something i need to be concerned about
wintry depot
No
inner merlin
like a 3 strikes ur out
inner merlin
mystic inlet
I got 18
wintry depot
Depends what you do
cosmic flame
I got like 5 warnings
Tsk tsk what a slacker
wintry depot
Go back to sleep <@212378747293270026>
Ok dad
keen copper
ur smart
lunar hedge
So smart
wintry depot
U want another one?
lunar hedge
I'm amazed
cosmic flame
Like restarted
Silence this dumbass
wintry depot
While im here
mystic inlet
:(
lunar hedge
gleaming pendant
https://tenor.com/view/cat-fighting-angry-gif-3065326141949647983
silver hollow
gleaming pendant
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1284972585825734737/1348343771695284284/z...
cosmic flame
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011032539550457985/1262159945063727186/b...
Not his fault
inner merlin
i think the funniest shit to see is someone hosting a behemoth lobby 1640 with there mokoko friend and locking it to 1660
mystic inlet
i think the funniest shit to see is someone hosting a behemoth lobby 1640 with t...
The other day saw a guy 1620 with 4 1700 whales locking it to 1680
I need friends...
cosmic flame
And?
mystic inlet
To carry my freshly made 1620 char...
wintry depot
Get friends
mystic inlet
Ok arna
cosmic flame
Nothing wrong with making lobby requirements up
mystic inlet
Wanna be my friend?
wintry depot
No ty
inner merlin
it's just funny because it just looks like they are abusing there friends just for the mokoko buff
cosmic flame
it's just funny because it just looks like they are abusing there friends just f...
Again, nothing wrong with that
wintry depot
Im not friendly
cosmic flame
I don’t see the point
mystic inlet
I can see that...
inner merlin
the point is because you're literally telling everyone hey I have a friend with mokoko buff I only want whales so I can get my ass carried
mystic inlet
I don’t see the point
The point is the game is not accessible to the people trying to get into the game, new or returning players, eventually th game will slowly die out
inner merlin
not saying they shouldn't do it it's just funny to see
cosmic flame
the point is because you're literally telling everyone hey I have a friend with ...
It’s within their own right tho, you’re not entitled to join all lobbies that are posted
mystic inlet
This why mmo is dying according to yearly 200 videos about mmo dying
inner merlin
not saying they shouldn't do it it's just funny to see
which is why I'm said this
cosmic flame
The point is the game is not accessible to the people trying to get into the gam...
Korean MMOs have never been accessible
wintry depot
I join mokoko lobbies on my highest chars to be sure to be taken
I dont really care
Me want tokens
mystic inlet
Want tokens but not friends
neon cedar
Im the friend with tokens
wintry depot
I have enough friends
neon cedar
She joins low ilvl chars with me
neon cedar
silver hollow
neon cedar
bffs for 2-3 months until event is over pog
mystic inlet
HAAHAHAH
wintry depot
Na we can still play after that if you want
neon cedar
I know, I jest
wintry depot
cosmic flame
Yes it’s called being an elitist nerd
wintry depot
Maybe i shouldnt have drink choco milk
cosmic flame
I’m quite good at it
wintry depot
My stomach hurts
lunar hedge
Have some ginger ale
mystic inlet
Puke out the choco
wintry depot
No im emetophobic
mystic inlet
Man I'm lazy to google that
neon cedar
I gatekeep <@202959015641219072>
Its true, told me no when I asked to raid but said yes to someone else for the same raid 
cosmic flame
Its true, told me no when I asked to raid but said yes to someone else for the s...
It was a different time
And I happened to be free too with the very same raids
But yes I forced myself to play with you lowly peasants for some tokens smh
neon cedar
I respect it. Gotta assert dominance when gatekeeping
neon cedar
inner merlin
pretty sure because ppl say easiest sup to play but still don't want to know how to play sup lol
inner merlin
I used to only bard in my 6 but I took a break and now catching up
also prefer to do solo raids when possible so I don't think I'll end up playing her as a alt 
inner merlin
been waiting 20min rn for 3 supports in a 1640 lobby
keen copper
inner merlin
only 1 has joined so far
inner merlin
idk how some ppl do so ass at 1640
inner merlin
maybe fresh character from express event and haven’t actually played the class before
mortal burrow
i had a 1680 se doing 50m in my aegir <:really:1331442564133421076>
my aero was pumping pumping in behe and echidna
and she's only 1642
inner merlin
oh dear
earnest girder
my aero was pumping pumping in behe and echidna
Wf or drizzle?
inner merlin
why are 1640s such supps rats
3 so far has joined and 2 were giga rats
1 left though
one that's staying has full epic engravings
mortal burrow
Wf or drizzle?
drizzle
inner merlin
bouta get jailed
mortal burrow
might switch back tho
wooden inlet
which one is better guys?
inner merlin
welp I was right about the support
jailed
should of left after I saw full purple engraving roster lvl 100
tulip charm
idk how some ppl do so ass at 1640
Cause they are on their 5th alt roster, just came to afk for free gold
Hence now every 1640 gets lumped in the same category for gatekeep city
🍚
inner merlin
alt rosters are a joke what's the point in making them to just gate kept and having half ur gold bound
tulip charm
alt rosters are a joke what's the point in making them to just gate kept and hav...
Cause they gotta
🍚
🍙 🍘
inner merlin
turbid oriole
Cause they gotta
gleaming pendant
vagrant cradle
should of left after I saw full purple engraving roster lvl 100 <:FeelsReeMan:39...
bitter lichen
<:MokokoJailed:1119325540302737409>
vagrant cradle
Still no power
I lost my 1000 day streak last year because of a hurricane taking out my electricty for 4 days
gleaming pendant
you don't believe in my empress gameplay
tulip charm
I lost my 1000 day streak last year because of a hurricane taking out my electri...
isn't there a 3 day ban thing
tulip charm
any loggers? naw
neon cedar
neon cedar
turbid oriole
power came on as soon as I posted that
whats it like with all the bugs in ur house from the flood
i was there for that
neon cedar
turbid oriole
neon cedar
swift tree
whats it like with all the bugs in ur house from the flood
Already had bugs in house, hence all the geckos
turbid oriole
Already had bugs in house, hence all the geckos
do you keep a pet hunstman in your home
to eat all the others
swift tree
They are
turbid oriole
keen copper
me too
tawny gateBOT
ＮＡ reset local time: <t:1736244053:t>
ＥＵ reset local time: <t:1736244053:t>
Weekly reset is on Wednesday server time.
keen copper
dead game
viscid sand
Touching grass 
turbid oriole
touching grass
gleaming pendant
Dattekimiyowaimo!
gleaming pendant
touching ~~gr~~ass
Hi I'm grass!
turbid oriole
Hi I'm grass!
viscid sand
Dattekimiyowaimo!
uncut dirge
did they nerf solo raids?
tranquil bridge
I think thaemine and echidna solos got adjusted a bit, i think hp got nerf a bit. check patch notes to make sure
viscid sand
in what sense 
swift tree
Yeah every boss in the game got adjusted
They also nerfed the Tier 3 solo modes when they added Thaemine/Echidna, I swear
also got pings and direction added to them
torn ether
solo is really chill rn
meager hill
they didn't really specifically nerf solo modes, but the added crit / cd reduction / trampoline made it easier
meager hill
akkan is just as horrible in solo mode now as it was on release
swift tree
Gate 1 is still awful, but G2 and G3 seem smoother
Brel and Vykas have lower damage/health.
Kaya gate 1 has less health
meager hill
brel g4 got a lot of changes in solo mode from release, but the others feel the same to me
and I've been doing solo basically since release
swift tree
What did they change in brel g4 solo <a:hmmSussythinker:861296276434583592>
You used to have to fail shandi by not going in black holes, now you can do either.
Shandi orbs move slower without siderial
Timer for the shapes is slower
viscid sand
It's been a while since I did solo brel g4, but back then as long as you took the light orb, you enter the domain anyway
meager hill
nah, the orbs are the same speed
the biggest change is the meteor interval
it's significantly less frequent
swift tree
oh right
viscid sand
swift tree
hadn't been seingthe 2nd one often so didn't notice that part
meager hill
before you used to see atleast 3 gold meteors on 1540 dps
swift tree
Istg shapes are slower
meager hill
now you can skip and kill her after the first one
swift tree
because in group version AU ping barely makes it
meager hill
if you have some burst
the shapes are the same speed too, maybe they're just faster in nm / hm by default
but solo is same same
viscid sand
meager hill
the only change to shape is confusion in shape 2 is no longer random iirc
real basin
unless your dps is bad you don't see more than 1 meteor even at 1520, you even end up skipping shapes 2, I think you're required to do the first meteor and blessing/shandi and then the boss can die after that
meager hill
now yeah, close to release, nah
gleaming pendant
meager hill
close to release my support had the highest dps because of brand solo buff 
on ilvl ofc
real basin
basically none of the patterns matters except yellow ones too, so you can just sit on the boss and dps unless she decides it's leg day and she's gonna move around a lot
just not in front, there's a grab there, rip front attackers
uncut dirge
im doing solo brel right now
honestly feels like i gained
100 ilvls or something with the change
ok maybe not that much but
i feel way stronger
G1 start to G3 finish took 6 minutes 20 seconds
meager hill
you're significantly stronger, that's for sure
uncut dirge
even messed up my akkan G2
real basin
everything like 1430+ feels much stronger relative to the content because of the nerfs, everything under 1430 feels weaker
uncut dirge
because i did so much damage i got 2nd football instead of the other thing
real basin
at 1540 there's a big spike too
uncut dirge
like i think G3 brel
i maybe could've killed before star mech even once
on a 1600 aero
but i got one of them
oh well
viscid sand
Depends on whether you get the long pattern tbh
You can 100-0 g3 as long as it's a good pattern
uncut dirge
brel g4 dropped to 135 bars before shapes mech
real basin
akkan on a 1600 with no elixirs (so barely stronger than 1580) is 0-bar within 1-1.5 minutes and you're just waiting for patterns, skip football 2, skip shadows, on the last gate you gotta stop at > 0 lines though so no destruction check
brisk torrent
does kenuart give xp?
real basin
you're allowed to receive fatal damage once in solo mode, so I just use that on akkan g1 instead of using a panacea since sidereal is usually not ready, he's like sub 130 lines from 1-2 cycle after his opener
meager hill
poison dot still deals infinite dmg to you tho
uncut dirge
man, solo akkan is such bad value for time
viscid sand
Abuse purify 
uncut dirge
ivory: 13:56, 373 gpm
akkan: 18:47, 230 gpm
brel 1-4: 12:24, 297 gpm
real basin
akkan is slow yeah, brelshaza is super nice when it's a 4 gate week
dull obsidian
People are still doing those 3 raids for gold?
meager hill
gpm?
dull obsidian
Gold per minute
real basin
i hate kayangel weeks when brel gate 4 is closed on a 1600, just feels like g2 and g3 are unnecessarily long due to time wasting mechs, even g1 with the running thing
viscid sand
For these people who don't have full t4 characters, probably
brisk torrent
i still do thaemine voldis akkan on 7 char
not everyone can swipe or spend 13 hours a day on the game
dull obsidian
Tf?
uncut dirge
well i have been playing two rosters since original jump start on the same account
real basin
i do them on t4 chars for clear medals to push my alts
uncut dirge
so all the power passes and expresses etc all went to the other roster until wildsoul now
so i have one playable 1680 sorc and rest 1600s
so i still do the raids on 1600s some of the time
brisk torrent
honing off express is genuinely the most diabolically mind numbing waste of time and resources ive ever experienced in my entire boring life
dull obsidian
What
brisk torrent
i pittied 11 times on plus 17 wasted 200k gold
game is joke w/o express honing bonus
dull obsidian
Idk
uncut dirge
yeah T3 honing costs an insane amount without express
dull obsidian
People do be struggling ig
faint grove
if you dont have a full 1700 roster now honing only with bounds are you even playing the game
uncut dirge
meanwhile at 1685 i'm paying 2.5k per tap
brisk torrent
i actually have like no problems resource bottlenecking
i do have a problem with books and gold cost
uncut dirge
does my 1685 earn 2.5x what my 1585 earns? lmao not even close
brisk torrent
its genuinely stupid
uncut dirge
difference is more like 5x to 6x
brisk torrent
i have 1 1650 char and they are completely useless to me after 3 raids
but having 7 sit at 1610 until i can get to t4 has been the move for like a year now
my fault for taking a break grind ark
dull obsidian
7 for a year at 1610?
faint grove
does my 1685 earn 2.5x what my 1585 earns? lmao not even close
whenever new content comes out you maek a shitload on high ilvl chars
brisk torrent
grossly exaggerating, i've only been playing continuously out of that year maybe 4 months
uncut dirge
whenever new content comes out you maek a shitload on high ilvl chars
sure but i just mean regular gold
meager hill
whenever new content comes out you maek a shitload on high ilvl chars
you'd need to have a high ilvl char tho
uncut dirge
1600: 5200 from ivory, 4320 from akkan, 3680 from brel = 13200
sure, i could do normal ivory and earn a little more, but i can't do brel every week so i'd earn less
meager hill
and if we're talking accessories, the more characters the better to actually get a chance at decent gold
uncut dirge
maybe 16k? doing it reasonable at 1600
faint grove
and the other point of tapping up is that you have to tap up eventually so all you're doing is paying it forward
real basin
it takes a very long time of parking at 1585, 1600, or 1610 to get the bound orehas to push to 1620, you get the other mats long before those, so you have to include orehas in the cost to push
faint grove
while reaping all the benefits of being high ilvl
brisk torrent
it takes a very long time of parking at 1585, 1600, or 1610 to get the bound ore...
seriously.
dull obsidian
Bound orehas is crazy work?
brisk torrent
its genuinely disheartening
dull obsidian
Wtf
uncut dirge
meanwhile 1685 earns 27.5k from brel, 30k from aegir, 19.5k from echidna = 77k
dull obsidian
Am I playing a different game
meager hill
yeah
brisk torrent
do you live w your parents
or blow ridiculous amounts of money on this game
gen q
or have you just never stopped to do other things
dull obsidian
I'm not talking about that
faint grove
ofc you can, just not long breaks
and if you're taking a break you need to make sure your char is ready for next content already
dull obsidian
It's just a slow building game until you get 6x 1640 tbh
real basin
you get 100 bound orehas free per week, you need 3232 orehas on average to push to 1620 from 1585 with full books, which is 33 weeks being parked
brisk torrent
i have been grinding since WS release after taking like a five month break
dull obsidian
Dude you are not pushing that much with bound orehas
brisk torrent
its genuinely mind numbing having no gold and 123178297123871 BILLION mats
faint grove
ofc u aint pushing 1620 with bound orehas lol
dull obsidian
What is this
storm bronze
si no habla español te largas
dull obsidian
Just burn your energy on farm if you don't got the time to lifeskill
faint grove
lifeskilling is giga profit right now so if you're poor you better be doing it
dull obsidian
You will be farming 80 red oreha a day which is something
dull obsidian
It's like 30% efficient
uncut dirge
you still consider all the orehas you make yourself and use as gold spent
because you could be selling them instead and getting the gold
real basin
the point is that unless you want to park them forever to push only with gold for taps, you have to spend extra gold to push them to 1620
meager hill
the issue with orehas is that if you have even 1 t4 character, you have to make a choice in-between t3 fusions and t4 fusions, because you can't get both
dull obsidian
NO SHIT
brisk torrent
i just think it still costs too much
dull obsidian
It does
brisk torrent
outside express
faint grove
it does
dull obsidian
But you can build towards it
brisk torrent
and the rng is turbo shit
brisk torrent
yeah idk
dull obsidian
No one does that
viscid sand
brisk torrent
i mean even w/o buying the pass orehas have never been a problem for me
karmic fog
upcoming raid is 1690 or 1680 ? Wondering wher I should be pushing my roster to
faint grove
1680/1700
dull obsidian
1680/1700
karmic fog
Ok noted
faint grove
hence why im on a mission to get a full 1680 roster before 
dull obsidian
Id say if you have the time you could build a 1640 a week after sitting at 1600-1610 for like a month for bounds
karmic fog
hence why im on a mission to get a full 1680 roster before <:mokokoEZThumbsup:96...
you are already there all good
gleaming pendant
hence why im on a mission to get a full 1680 roster before <:mokokoEZThumbsup:96...
Wow nice whale
brisk torrent
next reset i will be happy tho bc i should have enough destiny shards after echidna hard and behemoth and scales to finish transcendence lvl 6 on weap and 1660
shoutout slow burning content
dull obsidian
Nico are you currently registered as a mokoko ingame?
dull obsidian
Lmao
karmic fog
gleaming pendant
just playing since release
Same, this my roster
brisk torrent
and it chose not to flag me
gleaming pendant
karmic fog
faint grove
thats not enough to not get mokoko
brisk torrent
thats the only excuse i have
meager hill
iirc if you logged for anniversary you're sol
viscid sand
our roster -kae probably
faint grove
Same, this my roster
would also have full 1680 but decided to replace my duplicate sorc with gs on this event
shardlocked out of 1680
gonna take 2 more weeks
brisk torrent
i want a t3 book buff and hone nerf and then ill push
LOL
going through hundreds of books in one batch of leveling is kinda insane
faint grove
it do be like that
brisk torrent
will be pushing summ next express hopefully its not as useless as this one
dull obsidian
i want a t3 book buff and hone nerf and then ill push
It is what it is
brisk torrent
ya ik im bein a little baby ab it mb
karmic fog
Current roster
A bit clueless, aero as tons of mats so does the breaker, and I am keeping one slot for female paladin (benching my 1640 artist with tons of mats)
Struggling for the next steps to maximise rewards / gold income
dull obsidian
Literally just have 6 Chad's above 1640, do chaos everyday and guardian every 3 days
brisk torrent
why bench artist if you can get gold?
dull obsidian
Lifeskill if you have the time preferably logging with a partner
karmic fog
why bench artist if you can get gold?
im doing raid with her for now
brisk torrent
Lifeskill if you have the time preferably logging with a partner
thats a good joke, what are friends in lost ark?
karmic fog
she is just chilling one row below until I can fully replace her
dull obsidian
Literally go area chat and type "lf log"
brisk torrent
oh i just saw no gold earning
dull obsidian
In abidos garrison
brisk torrent
is that rly what ppl do?
wicked blade
Literally just have 6 Chad's above 1640, do chaos everyday and guardian every 3 ...
Burn out after a month and leave the game forever
karmic fog
yeah for now only getting gold on 5 char tho (5 in T4)
dull obsidian
Yes
wicked blade
Nice advices Ishy
brisk torrent
huh
wicked blade
dull obsidian
Burn out after a month and leave the game forever
I mean I said if you had the time?
viscid sand
Burn out after a month and leave the game forever
Gotta pick your own battles
wicked blade
I mean I said if you had the time?
Even if u had time, u would burn out
dull obsidian
Also if you know some people
brisk torrent
i know a totaly of 3 other people that play lost ark significantly more than me
dull obsidian
You can finish 6 behe thae and echidna in literally 8h weekly which is a lot better than just pugging
Playing with friends is always the way to go
viscid sand
Even if u had time, u would burn out
It really depends what your goals are 
I have friends who degen'd the game, got eclipse and quit
dull obsidian
Yeh my static looks doomed
brisk torrent
i literally just want 3 in t4
dull obsidian
It will break apart at kazeros
brisk torrent
prob gotta wait til next express if i burnout on LS
wicked blade
I have 3 char in T4 and some parked in T3 and... I'm getting tired of LOA
Design is ass
dull obsidian
I mean lost ark is one of those grindy raiding daily kmmos that have literally nothing else going for it
viscid sand
That's a you thing no? 
faint grove
I mean lost ark is one of those grindy raiding daily kmmos that have literally n...
side content during t1 was hella fun in the beginning but yeah these days its just raids and dailies
dull obsidian
There is literally no side content
No social groups
No guild content in the game
faint grove
i love that its main+alts, playing only 1 char is boring
dull obsidian
The social groups that did exist are either really fucking small now or moved back to something like WOW or FF14
wicked blade
i love that its main+alts, playing only 1 char is boring
https://tenor.com/view/akira-job-application-get-a-job-akira-job-application-gif-8274337411388777231
faint grove
and that's fine
viscid sand
Like if you're strapped for time, you could still progress on <6 characters 
dull obsidian
Low pop
dull obsidian
No merge because Australians and SEA being dogs
Like bro I play 250 ping on east whatever
It's no diff 180-250
wicked blade
Like if you're strapped for time, you could still progress on <6 characters <:sh...
Yeah, other better games doesn't exist
I only play LOA
tranquil bridge
Good question as to why they even cater so hard to SEA and Aussie people when it's north american servers
wicked blade
dull obsidian
Like actually fuck it
Give us like a 2-3d maint and merge the servers with huge gift/maint reward
swift tree
Merge west into east fuck it
Actual AU players would benefit because their timezone would get reunited
SEA rice eaters would complain about having to recalibrate their bots
dull obsidian
He got hit by a cyclone
swift tree
What happened to your power?
wicked blade
https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-storm-lightning-cloudy-gif-17607709
Oh those
dull obsidian
dull obsidian
No he's Aussie
wicked blade
So US 2.0
wicked blade
Australia is just shittier version of America
dull obsidian
dull obsidian
Idk if anything is shittier than America ATM but yeh
meager hill
that's a take of all times
brisk torrent
based take
swift tree
Only 2 types of snakes that are dangerous, housing prices in Sydney will kill you before a funnel web does
brisk torrent
bara
swift tree
what?
brisk torrent
do you know if kenuart gives xp
swift tree
do you know if kenuart gives xp
not enough to be worth soloing it
swift tree
so close to lvl 70 on main
you done Tower?
swift tree
You done Rowen?
brisk torrent
wha?
brisk torrent
oh i have not
swift tree
oh i have not
brisk torrent
doesn't vancouver have the highest housing prices in the world?
disproportionately to wealth if at all
wicked blade
doesn't vancouver have the highest housing prices in the world?
I would bet u Calli is worse
brisk torrent
have you seen cali or florida
wicked blade
brisk torrent
LMFAO
meager hill
nah, no way
swift tree
doesn't vancouver have the highest housing prices in the world?
Sydney is up there.
brisk torrent
its so bad in those states, they straight up discontinued insurance types that would save the homeowner and insurance company money
like fire and earthquakes, and hurricanes
america is a joke, has been for a long time
swift tree
Shit, nevermind, guess it pulled itself together, Sydney dropped way down the list
brisk torrent
gas
i would love to live in australia if it wasnt so disconnected from the bigger social groupings
i know a lot of foreigners but like next to zero ppl from australia or NZ
swift tree
The technology price gouging is the worst of it ngl
wicked blade
@brisk torrent
brisk torrent
i can imagine
wicked blade
brisk torrent
LMFAO I KNEW IT
i was gonna say san jose or sacramento
specifically and explicitly
swift tree
i can imagine
back when the iTunes store was a thing, music was legit double price of USA (even after currency exchange)
wicked blade
Average home price $2.8m
brisk torrent
the homeless capital of the world with enough generalized wealth in their state's government to solve a continental issue and still ppl die on the street every day
brisk torrent
i think cx is just such a wild concept
tulip charm
i am just checking, sett the blue rare card dosn't stock at the merchant right?
this is random card pack only?
brisk torrent
thats why i love companies that do regional pricing for their games
wicked blade
thats why i love companies that do regional pricing for their games
Same
brisk torrent
<:ConcernFrog:1208539984836169849>
i speak no lies
what was that guys name
thor something
runs a studio that does regional pricing and pay for their mods / team
tulip charm
thats why i love companies that do regional pricing for their games
didn't people long time ago complained about this
wicked blade
i speak no lies
Oh Summoner main 
tulip charm
sa players mainly
brisk torrent
HAHAHAHA WHAT?
tulip charm
then they merged them into NAe, and everyone lived happily ever after
brisk torrent
i love my summoner
brisk torrent
didn't people long time ago complained about this
yes
brisk torrent
SA has a like ridiculously inflated economy even compared to mexico and the caribbeans
the caribbeans all having mixed gdp values is egregious
i hate economy as a topic, why is it so hard to exist as a human tbh
wicked blade
Real, people should exist as Summoner and Artist mains
wicked blade
And RE Deathblade aheeem aheeem
brisk torrent
LOL
wicked blade
brisk torrent
RE is a fun spec
steel minnow
Average home price $2.8m <a:om:1172161229620510840>
I mean its not that bad if ur making 100k a year
wicked blade
I mean its not that bad if ur making 100k a year
Yeah, and u totally don't have other expences
That is not how economy works
brisk torrent
I mean its not that bad if ur making 100k a year
this is a joke right
wicked blade
steel minnow
I mean here where i live average home price is from 150k to 250k and wages are 15to 20k a year
brisk torrent
thats still dog shit
steel minnow
Exactly
wicked blade
I mean here where i live average home price is from 150k to 250k and wages are 1...
That is fine
steel minnow
My point
brisk torrent
TWO MILLION DOLLARS
for a home
is not attainable in 100k a year all expenses covered
brisk torrent
for who
whos married in their 30s with TWO 100k a year jobs
STILL thats TEN YEARS
to afford that
w/o assistance
all expenses paid
wicked blade
100k home on 15k per year, if u get a credit on 30y, with interest rate of 5%... You pay around 449€ a month
Which is not that bad
brisk torrent
i love that we're so passionate about economics and summoners
i would love to know if you are also this passionate about music
wait this isnt a lost ark discussion
swift tree
i would love to know if you are also this passionate about music
Went you want to relax with calm piano music, but get that whiff of anxiety from old Brelshaza Jails
swift tree
Turns out when you lose internet/data Spotify has the most recent song queue saved to your phone/device.
@wicked blade https://open.spotify.com/track/0NJjRlm5KyLpnmJzFpLyhD?si=9b893781fe1e47be Up your alley?
swift tree
OSRS opened their own version of LOA On with it.
real basin
they had a maintenance for DST but the server reset time is the same
vocal pollen
low nebula
cheaters baning different conversation, but if poe had amazing gameplay as it promised it would most likely kill loa
cos all loa has is gameplay, it is not mmo
swift tree
It resets in an hour still
safe lark
dawn yacht
real basin
i am in need of a helicopter
swift tree
cheaters baning different conversation, but if poe had amazing gameplay as it pr...
I mean yeah no shiz, LOA started as a monster hunter / dungeon / stronghold social sim that pivoted to include raids
zealous lintel
cheaters baning different conversation, but if poe had amazing gameplay as it pr...
Didnt it had amazing gameplay? Everyone and their grandma were glazing POE
swift tree
Didnt it had amazing gameplay? Everyone and their grandma were glazing POE
It has traditional RPG gameplay, which there is a dime a dozen games like that
zealous lintel
I remember i couldnt write in here 4 months ago cause all i read was POE godlike and LOA trash
swift tree
Hadn't reached the endgame grind yet
zealous lintel
It has traditional RPG gameplay, which there is a dime a dozen games like that
just meming on POE cause it was the killer of LOA like D4 or DF before
real basin
poe is fun until it's just grinding maps for divs to make your build grind maps for divs slightly faster
swift tree
Denters that say "X is a Y killer" don't understand how shit even works
zealous lintel
now that this didnt happen people grasping for straws as to why POE didnt kill LOA
Shocker!
swift tree
now that this didnt happen people grasping for straws as to why POE didnt kill L...
because the players that flock between games already left for Elden Ring 2 years ago
tl;dr
zealous lintel
LOA is just different. Thats it
zealous lintel
because the players that flock between games already left for Elden Ring 2 years...
probably
tulip charm
Didnt it had amazing gameplay? Everyone and their grandma were glazing POE
it does have amazing gameplay, but it got stale very fast, but what do you expect its early access
you want a finished game that will be polished for infinity, wait till 1.0
i played for 3 weeks and stopped
zealous lintel
it does have amazing gameplay, but it got stale very fast, but what do you expec...
for an early access the glazing was of the charts
zealous lintel
you want a finished game that will be polished for infinity, wait till 1.0
it wont change much either
tulip charm
ive said it before, i am not playing the game again until they add in righteous fire gem
swift tree
for an early access the glazing was of the charts
cough Sponsored content cough
real basin
1 > 2 still
low nebula
ive said it before, i am not playing the game again until they add in righteous ...
based
zealous lintel
its the same thing with D4
it got better
and it could have garnered a high playerbase
but it didnt
people rarely come back to games after its first period
if the period is bad, well thats it
torn ether
it got better
cuz they decided to release a paid expension before completely fixing the game
zealous lintel
cuz they decided to release a paid expension before completely fixing the game
yeah
torn ether
i would play d4 if the expension was free
tulip charm
people rarely come back to games after its first period
guess i am not "people" then
zealous lintel
they burned them
zealous lintel
guess i am not "people" then
true. and you are in the minority
torn ether
guess i am not "people" then
hes right tho most of the ppl dont come back after quiting once
zealous lintel
any modern game which isnt almost fully polished at the beginning doesnt retain its playerbase
real basin
so glad I cancelled my preorder for D4 and never went back
zealous lintel
like marver rivals
real basin
just played poe instead
zealous lintel
they did their thing right
low nebula
Didnt it had amazing gameplay? Everyone and their grandma were glazing POE
nope they fucked up fundamental things, i started as 2 hand melee and its unplayable
class design, and skill design is horrendous
forced movement on all skills done wrong
forced push of you b y mobs feels wrong and glitches screen
in original release you couldnt roll thru mobs so you get surounded
and all 2h skills have 2 sec cast time on them, so you press button and range mobs kill you, cos there absolutely no balance on mobs
zealous lintel
nope they fucked up fundamental things, i started as 2 hand melee and its unplay...
it doesnt matter
people were calling POE the next jesus
now people trying to justfiy exactly that
low nebula
cos jonathan promoted it like that, so i trusted him to playtest that
and he didnt
tulip charm
its two different gaming companies with complete different values
one sent out a "fully finished game" that charged 90$ + 30$ to play the game in advance earlier by 2 weeks, while using their playerbase to beta test the game for another year before the game improved
the other one sent out a 30$ package that gave you high value for ingame qol purchases, sold it as a early access, 30$ only, and is improving the game during early access
idgaf if i am minority or not, this is all facts listed above, you make the call if you want to play those games or not
low nebula
it looked like ass on footage, it turns out to be ass ingame
zealous lintel
its two different gaming companies with complete different values
one sent out a...
its not about playing it or not
its about the market and how players behave accordingly
wicked blade
PoE2 is great game
low nebula
while usually all devs show promotion footage of new clasess really slow and ass so low iq ppl understand what it does
tulip charm
its about the market and how players behave accordingly
idgaf about market or how players behave, i only care if i like the game or not, or if i will have fun playing it
low nebula
but in the end turns out it is the reality
tulip charm
nothing more, nothing less
wicked blade
Worth the hype honestly, for EA it delivers better experience then most AAA games
zealous lintel
idgaf about market or how players behave, i only care if i like the game or not,...
well the point of the discussion was exactly that
low nebula
Worth the hype honestly, for EA it delivers better experience then most AAA game...
not if you melee
swift tree
its about the market and how players behave accordingly
instructions unclear, busy liquidating studios for tax write-offs and shareholder bonuses.
-Activision
low nebula
loa zerk is melee
monk with ice attack full screen out 1 tap everything is not dark souls of arpg melee
it is poe1 but worse
why i need worse poe1 if poe1 exist?
wicked blade
PoE2 is great honestly, it lacks content because it is EA
But I love it more then PoE1
Never could get into PoE1
PoE2 feels like different game
low nebula
see, skill issue
wicked blade
Which is good
tulip charm
nope they fucked up fundamental things, i started as 2 hand melee and its unplay...
game is janky, when i stopped playing after 3 weeks, it was 90% players playing path of spark with 15k energy shields with 200 rarity
low nebula
it is different, which is good, but not different enough to be good
wicked blade
why i need worse poe1 if poe1 exist?
Because devs themself said they want games to be different?
low nebula
game is janky, when i stopped playing after 3 weeks, it was 90% players playing ...
i was 3k hp and 200 rarity cos HP based class
low nebula
Because devs themself said they want games to be different?
and they didnt deliver it
tulip charm
i was 3k hp and 200 rarity cos HP based class
they might as well converted the last 2 lifenodes on the tree to more 50% es nodes
torn ether
why i need worse poe1 if poe1 exist?
those are different games tho
wicked blade
Apparenly people dont think like u
torn ether
with different game plays
wicked blade
torn ether
its not a replacement
torn ether
they didnt release OW2
they also said we will be updating poe1 cuz we want those to be different
low nebula
if you put it into real life product or service perspective
would you go to dentist for withdom teath removal if he had 4 out 5 stars and 20% of customers got their jaw broken?
wicked blade
if you put it into real life product or service perspective
would you go to dent...
CriErr, if u don't like PoE2, play PoE1
low nebula
the solution is clearly dont remove teath, are you stupid or something just get cleaning and leave to another dentist for other procedures
swift tree
meanwhile Grim Dawn
wicked blade
PoE1 feels meh to me, while PoE2 feel amazing
low nebula
Games are different
THEY ARE NOT DIFFERENT, you dont hear me but repeat same point over and over again
they are same game but done badly second time
wicked blade
meanwhile Grim Dawn
Grim Dawn has much smaller community
low nebula
i want them to be different, but they are not
wicked blade
i want them to be different, but they are not
torn ether
THEY ARE NOT DIFFERENT, you dont hear me but repeat same point over and over aga...
then play the first one 
they didnt kill it
it has 15k online rn
wicked blade
True
torn ether
its doing good
wicked blade
lol
torn ether
tulip charm
Grim Dawn has much smaller community
ive actually had the opportunity to fully this, for awhile, it was a great game
wicked blade
ive actually had the opportunity to fully this, for awhile, it was a great game
Yup
It was
low nebula
then play the first one <:shruge:1100304847183560726> they didnt kill it
i dont want first one, i want second one jonathan promised and said ots 90% ready of perfect
and its not
wicked blade
I played it aswell
swift tree
Paid EA
Well there's the difference, PoE1 had no EA involvement.
no shit the 2nd one turned to crap
tulip charm
not a multiplegamer as advertised, it was more of a single player game with a multiplayer feature, very underrated and not widely known at all
wicked blade
Well there's the difference, PoE1 had no EA involvement.
no shit the 2nd one tur...
PoE2 even for EA is great
low nebula
nor melee
torn ether
i dont want first one, i want second one jonathan promised and said ots 90% read...
then wait for ayear for it to fully come out
idk what ur on
stiff egret
why is this idiot twice on my screen
real basin
echidna starting a kpop group
torn ether
why is this idiot twice on my screen
double booba
real basin
with herself
torn ether
problem?
stiff egret
4 tits gaming
torn ether
is that only visual or does 2. one attack aswel?
wicked blade
low nebula
Saying it is EA
the isues are fundamental, and rooted in lies and lack of any testing of midgame and most of the clasess
after act 3 game doesnt function like at all, before that half of clasess feel like junk and half are op gods