#lost-ark-discussions

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celest tiger
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no slurs please πŸ‘€

charred void
queen grail
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Just tell em you got a 1640 friend and if that's fine Looking @charred void I have full trans on this char at least YEPCLOCK

celest tiger
wintry depot
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theres more supp shortage in aegir nm than brel nm

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for some reason

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same for aegir hm and brel hm

cursive ruin
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why is azure dragon such a piece of shit

charred void
cursive ruin
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it is the most inconsistent piece of dog water in the game

queen grail
cursive ruin
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i remember back in kakul days i'd cream over my brutal impacts doing 70m, now it does 250m minimum

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azure? it does anywhere from 200 to 450

queen grail
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Apply too this one and ask if 1640 friendo is fine? @charred void Looking Neela is leader's name

upbeat grotto
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Anyone know how much damage gain you get per tap from 21-25? I think you gain about 4k weapon power roughly per tap.

queen grail
charred void
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ye he found a ring now

queen grail
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SMH Bro, people change shit around at times.

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Just apply Despairge

charred void
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already full

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2 gl

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i cry

queen grail
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BRO

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ITS ECHIDNA

wicked blade
queen grail
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I can't even, why do you make stuff so hard?

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Two 1700+ char's Despairge and you don't just listen HmmCoffee

charred void
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i dont get shit out of this without koko

wicked blade
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Bruh

queen grail
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Then, say that, be more clear with your communication Despairge

cursive ruin
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cat videos are not sustainable income

charred void
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ye fuck that echidna nongoldearner

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gl aly

queen grail
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Iz ok Looking I got my rat into an ok grp.

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But ye, echidna is not the best place for πŸ‚

charred void
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have to prepare more garbage for tomorrows bird

queen grail
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I'm doing some wing's run's later if you want to join, if not then np buhhloon It's just a few

celest tiger
charred void
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when im drunk maybe

storm bronze
uncut dirge
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@distant charm you got a dps for aegir normal?

charred void
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a dps for aegir normal???

storm bronze
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People really play lost ark sober ?

charred void
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everyone looking for supports Susge

uncut dirge
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well i've got to run a supp

distant charm
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5 piece no hands all vibes

charred void
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why do i even exist

cursive ruin
charred void
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yes

cursive ruin
charred void
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show chuan

thorny olive
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db looking different

slender sky
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wahoo freetapped

vocal pollen
queen grail
burnt tree
charred void
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sorc almost ate 200 books from 1546 to 1580 Weirdga

bitter lichen
real basin
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oh shi i forgot about solo leveling

cursive ruin
nova marlin
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Guys is putting 1 point in limit break better then having 2 points in mp furnace for sorc? Or having mp at 2 is stronger? I have. 3 pieces

charred void
cursive ruin
queen grail
cursive ruin
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word bb girl

queen grail
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You're out of books?

charred void
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i had 500

queen grail
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Despairge Jesus.

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Sadly they are bound Despairge

cursive ruin
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my back hurts like a bitch

queen grail
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SMH just trying to get some acc's on my lopangs and ofc.

queen grail
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SMH Atk power is like 120k++

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If Ancient.

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@burnt tree You done with all raids for the week?

celest tiger
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i'm holding out for ancient whenever i get there KEKW

queen grail
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kek Goodluck, buhhloon cut a bunch this week and got legendary shield % gasm

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To be fair, If I could get Legendary Shield and Legendary Heal % I'd use it on my support buhhloon

charred void
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atk power on support?

queen grail
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WEIRD Shield/heal?

tulip charm
charred void
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just give every supportmain at 1700+ a free max sidereal weapon(and after they hone a weapon to +25)

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problem solved

wintry depot
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there was support overflow

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till wildsoul

queen grail
burnt tree
charred void
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female paladin will make so many support mains quit the game again deadge

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artist release was the horror

burnt tree
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its ok ppl already quitting cause their frens got perma'd for chaos botting

charred void
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poor cheaters Sadge

wintry depot
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i hope they make her a decent dps build

burnt tree
queen grail
burnt tree
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so she quit today xd

queen grail
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Imagine wasting so much time spent on a game because you couldn't just do the chaos manually like a regular player buhhloon

burnt tree
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i mean they reduced chaos dung to 1 per day across the entire game

vapid bluff
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People find every possible way to not play the game, it's sad

burnt tree
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idk whats the point unless u wanna have 17 1680s like Ebony

queen grail
charred void
wintry depot
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yeah i was going insane with 2 chaos a day

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1 is fine

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i do 12 chaos daily manually

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its not that bad

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compared to 24 before

vocal pollen
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On launch I did 8 chars a day with the 2x a day DESPAIR

vapid bluff
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Am I too entitled to say this is too low item level, with me being a 1640 Mokoko ICANT

burnt tree
vapid bluff
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giga jail

burnt tree
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om

vapid bluff
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echidna

queen grail
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🐱

vapid bluff
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WAit is that actually how aero clashes

queen grail
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Ye YEP

charred void
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noway this rat gets to page 2+

queen grail
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@vapid bluff

queen grail
charred void
queen grail
queen grail
queen grail
real basin
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lmao the ending of this week's episode

wicked blade
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Oh right, that reminds me

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Need to watch Sweet Reincarnation and 6 new episodes

queen grail
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@charred void I want to hone SAD

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But what are these stupid honing costs at 1610 Despairge

cursive ruin
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i wanna eat shrimp shawarma

charred void
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i honed 6x 1540 to 1580 so far

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14 left

queen grail
vapid bluff
charred void
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im perfectly sane

vapid bluff
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No you aren't

charred void
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there are people with 24x 1680

vapid bluff
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You can have people more insane than you and still be insane yourself

charred void
real basin
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I hope they release honing nerfs with rimeria we shall see

wintry depot
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prob not, smilegate is dumb

vapid bluff
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Honing nerfs should have already happened

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way overdue

wintry depot
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yeah

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but smilegate is dumb

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same for still not giving los30

vapid bluff
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They arent dumb

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They are making money off of it

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Greedy* is a better word

charred void
queen grail
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I mean, this guy exist Looking

real basin
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gunlancer enjoyer

uncut dirge
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i just had a very interesting bard

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in my aegir raid

charred void
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no brand skill?

queen grail
fresh flint
burnt tree
uncut dirge
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phantom breaker btw

charred void
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looks fine

vapid bluff
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Why dont people Azena

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after mirrors

charred void
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dont demand too much

vapid bluff
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For Echidna

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It makes zero sense to hold

queen grail
vapid bluff
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You have Thar up for stagger

queen grail
vapid bluff
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Like its so annoying

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Intentionally extending the fight for 0

queen grail
vapid bluff
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You do?

queen grail
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Unless your grp is slow.

vapid bluff
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The group was slow enough to get the vinetraps

queen grail
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You're talking about G2 Counter mirrors right?

charred void
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first sidereal i ever see is 137 stagger

vapid bluff
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And didnt skip adds on g1

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So yes they woulod have Thar up

uncut dirge
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are you sure

queen grail
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Most grps don't use sid after mirror's since the fight is so short you won't get Thar for Stagger then Looking just not worth the risk in most grps.

uncut dirge
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cause you also gotta make sure after that har you have enough for the next thar

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and then ephernia

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seems risky imo

wintry depot
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you can not skip adds g1 and still have too much dmg to use azena

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actually

vapid bluff
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All 3 runs Ive done

queen grail
vapid bluff
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Even with 1700s

wintry depot
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^

vapid bluff
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They azena after mirrors

vapid bluff
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So fast!

queen grail
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I don't even remember last time we used Azena post-mirror in G2 UHM

vapid bluff
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Theres literally no reason not do, I;ve been in fully juiced parties and still had enough for Thar

queen grail
vapid bluff
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We are doing jumprope

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in g2

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i have never

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seen this mech

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in my life

queen grail
wintry depot
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i didnt use azena after mirrors for 6 months

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even in t3 we didnt

queen grail
vapid bluff
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Then they changed sidereal

queen grail
vapid bluff
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Because they one shot both the snakes

wintry depot
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not like its hard with hypers

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they didnt change anything

vapid bluff
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The first snake

queen grail
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I mean, the second we got hyper's snakes vanished from the mech table UHM

wintry depot
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?

wintry depot
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what first snake ?

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you hyper there

vapid bluff
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There are 2 snakes

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You hyper 2nd snake

wintry depot
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you know that hypers kill both right ?

vapid bluff
wintry depot
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................

lunar hedge
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arna

vapid bluff
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my Hyper does NOT

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reach both snakes

wintry depot
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what class you play?

queen grail
vapid bluff
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Shadowhunter

queen grail
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Wait, shadowhunter? You hit both with that no?

wintry depot
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well msot classes, hyper reach both

vapid bluff
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No?

queen grail
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Stand on second aim upwawrds and the claw hands reach both no?

vapid bluff
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I did that and missed

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:(

queen grail
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The shadowhunter one is super long

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Stand on the side

vapid bluff
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I was right behind the clash

queen grail
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Be on the side towards top

vapid bluff
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Oki

queen grail
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2sec* in guardian

uncut dirge
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@wintry depot do you know where to position for spec wildsoul hyper to hit both?

wintry depot
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i dont play that class

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and my bf is sleeping

charred void
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??

queen grail
charred void
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wake him up then

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its important information

wintry depot
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im not mean

queen grail
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So you don't stand behind the clash because that's the furthest away but you stand a bit on the side towards the top.

charred void
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aly drawing 2 balls smh

solemn trellis
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queen grail
charred void
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im surprised theres a dps paladin ha in that

wintry depot
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time to spam the guy to add ws

silver hollow
queen grail
charred void
queen grail
charred void
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aly pinged the guy

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you will be remembered

wintry depot
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i think he doesnt really play anymore

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at least thats what i heard

queen grail
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Looking Another green that threw in the towel? SAD

uncut dirge
charred void
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yes and my computer got weirdly slow now

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china mining bitcoin now Sadge

wintry depot
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didnt have any problem

uncut dirge
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It's not a problem

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I just thought it was weird

wintry depot
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yeah i meant

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i didnt have that

mystic basin
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ye im fusing my alts gems

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fuck this

cursive ruin
bitter lichen
charred void
halcyon pollen
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how is my 1660 that i pushed to event supposed to do aegir without a bus

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no one will take the 0 piece rat

charred void
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welcome to lost ark

turbid oriole
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deadchat dead game

halcyon pollen
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πŸ’€

cosmic flame
jagged tangle
halcyon pollen
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shouldve pushed a sup lol

keen copper
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i pugged hm aegir on my 1680 ws just fine mokokoEZThumbsup

halcyon pollen
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luckylucky

jagged tangle
vapid bluff
halcyon pollen
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i feel like getting into lobby is like wining lottery at this point for me

charred void
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i mean lobbyleaders want that 1750 for behe for their 13 trans 1640 alt

jagged tangle
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Got my WS to 1677 haven’t got a Brel yet. Did aegir last week. This week is pain

keen copper
jagged tangle
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An I have PM. Problem is every lobby is sup+1 or juicers.

junior fern
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Does anyone know approximately how long Elgacia takes to G-key through?

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I have more than enough gold to skip but I was considering doing it for EXP since my alts are lvl 60ish or underr

lunar hedge
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short, but takes at least an hour minimum

junior fern
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Not bad, EXP doesnt look amazing but I'lll take w/e I can get I guess

junior owl
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yo my support just used a stim in an event guardian, can ppl really afford to just use consumes all the time any time?

junior fern
vocal pollen
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I mean, Stims are only 50g

junior fern
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Unless the ones later on gives drastically more

vocal pollen
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that's not that much

keen copper
royal ocean
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Hey, can someone tell me what should I do w them ? Since event gave me BiS gems

vocal pollen
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merge them and sell

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or upgrade over time

junior owl
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huh good to know, in my opinion popping consumes is fun. glad to hear they feel cheap eventually.

junior fern
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You should prob not be popping them as freely esp in guardian event

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A lot of people, esp the vets just have a boatload of saved up potion chests

royal ocean
junior fern
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Or make enough money for 50gold a random intervals to not mean anything

junior fern
vocal pollen
keen copper
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idk man, im kinda running low on consumbles Smoge

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gotta save them for lost ark 2

vocal pollen
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xdd

royal ocean
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Well I just started playing this week so i don't get everything in the game yet xd i have like 5k gold wich I assume the event gave me but I believe that's way far from what I need to upgrade my gear

vocal pollen
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honing costs a lot of gold over time

junior fern
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They can make for a small injection of gold

keen copper
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gems are free money Corpa

royal ocean
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that's tier 4

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Amulets / rings also ?

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Bcs I dismantled them so

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alr

distant charm
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Is Drops of Ether really a good choice for supp pala

tulip charm
distant charm
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Awakening - Magick Stream - Expert - Max MP - Drops of Ether then?

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Cheers

keen copper
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zheng discovers color blindness settings

distant charm
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What do u go for on stones

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Expert - ?

tulip charm
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wait a minute...

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if people are using that setting, how do they tell if a counter is real or red?

royal ocean
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Well I didn't get how you increase your farming tools quality xd

vocal pollen
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Tommy uses the same colourblind settings

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or a similar one

royal ocean
vocal pollen
royal ocean
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I usually always play on colorblind as I find it prettier

vocal pollen
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I like the blue font on some of the items

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example screenshot from Tommy

royal ocean
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Got it i'll check that

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Another question, is enlightment point on jewelry random ?

vocal pollen
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based on quality

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and # of refinements

royal ocean
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The event gave me +9 point but I can't find something equivalent

vocal pollen
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You have to refine things you find, unless you find on marketboard

royal ocean
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Oh

vocal pollen
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you'll notice the event also gave you ones with multiple lines as the stats

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as opposed to just main stat + vit + enlighten points

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go to the npc w/ the ring w/ the yellow star thing

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that's the refining npc

neon galleon
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anyone want to ask where i can get honor shard tier 4?

junior fern
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Why cant you ask yourself

neon galleon
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how i can get destiny besides from chaos

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i buy it but im still need a lot

lunar hedge
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man why cant i have this on my main

vocal pollen
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thats a pretty gud stone

neon galleon
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PvP? where i can do PvP

royal ocean
neon galleon
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ok thanks you

royal ocean
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Aren't these droppable ?

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And anyway tier 4 is so far away from me

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I'm for now trying to understand fully my class as it's hard to play :c

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Deathblade is my alt (well was my main but became alt once I used pass xD)

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It's okay to play tho

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Main is arcanist

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I do enjoy difficulty hehe

lunar hedge
vocal pollen
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2/2 w/ 0 downsides still isn't bad

elder igloo
lunar hedge
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yeaaa

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im taking my W with that

royal ocean
lunar hedge
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but is it good for your class

royal ocean
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I'm playing w 2 friends and they both made the newest class wich i forgot the name

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So doesn't want to make one

keen copper
royal ocean
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But y Deathblade so fun to play but I needed pass on a sub char

tulip charm
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could have been a 96, or 97

royal ocean
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I never did one as my deathblade is to weak to attempt them

mystic inlet
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I think he meant nobody does at his item level

lunar hedge
vagrant cradle
royal ocean
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My deathblade is still t2

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No one is playing at this lvl

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I'll try

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I got this char today so i'm still figuring things

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Yeah ik i followed it

junior fern
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I regret doing Elgacia story

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Not even 1 full l vl at lvl 60

royal ocean
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I do

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I just don't get for now why my friends are doing 40x my dmg numbers while not doing shit except pressing randomly keyboard keys xD

junior fern
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Arcanist is like that

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One of the hardest classes to play

mystic basin
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Well your in t2

junior fern
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His Arcanist isnt

mystic basin
junior fern
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That waas his DB

royal ocean
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Judgement is broken for that I enjoy these times when I can just stop thinking

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In stronghold I found this merchant is that the sole utility of SG farming ?

junior fern
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Shoutout toe Deathboi tho, the goat of solo only players like me

royal ocean
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I usually love high apm so I love deathblade yeah

junior fern
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Im not too sure about high APM on DB besides maybe surge

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I used to play Surge before ark passives but RE feels really chill

royal ocean
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i'm playing surge yeah as it was what i was playing on the release

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Don't know Re that much

junior fern
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I'm close to that if the patterns are good in Argeos

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But that might be harder in actual raids which I wouldnt know

royal ocean
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I can't find the merchant u told me who sell mats for farming tools

junior fern
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In Thaemine its doable for sure but in Echidna she has too many things to dodge so im prob nowhere near

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Oh I believe it

royal ocean
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I also don't get what cookies are used for

junior fern
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I'm just saying for my own gameplay im not there yet

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And also I just started doing Echidna last week, she was surprisingly easy first time

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No wipes (thanks to deathboi on yt)

mystic basin
royal ocean
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Huh

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Oh found the npc

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alr alr

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A partner ?

neon galleon
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what is this for?

tulip charm
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that use to be a rare drop from platinum ticket, since it was removed, the drop got added to random skilling

neon galleon
tulip charm
royal ocean
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I have to buy all these from store ?

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I guess i'm rich

tawny mirage
astral ermine
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The primary unbound gold is adventure islands, whenever you get a day that actually has gold as a reward

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Like Sunday night, Opportunity Isle (fishing) has gold

mortal burrow
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imo it's one of the okayish first sources of gold

astral ermine
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For new players it is definitely intended to be one of their first sources of gold

mortal burrow
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you can't list anything unti lyou get some unbound gold

neon cedar
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Chaos Gate works well to get a bit of starter gold too to start doing what DB mentioned

mortal burrow
neon cedar
neon cedar
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So do islands Shrug just suggesting more options

royal ocean
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ill have to wait tmrw tho

vocal pollen
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also not guaranteed to be a gold island up

astral ermine
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A shame they removed rapport gold rewards, although they would probably make those bound now instead of outright removal

royal ocean
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is there a particular one I should do ?

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Or just doing a random works

astral ermine
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Current gates will match your ilevel anywhere, it was ye olden days where you had to go to one specific spot for the highest. Positive change to drop that

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on Thursdays and Sundays it is super quick for the event guardian

royal ocean
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I do enjoy arcana tho dress cute

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Even tho i disslike the face xd

mystic basin
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Clueless surely a dmg gem right

keen copper
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couldnt be me

smoky vortex
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aegir normal lobbies look like hell, no supps

royal ocean
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There's definitly ppl lol

astral ermine
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if female Paladins have a viable dps spec there will be one billion sups (that all want to be dps)

smoky vortex
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we just need a seperate support exclusive express

royal ocean
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they're all 1600+ tho

mystic basin
cosmic flame
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based on your ilvl

neon cedar
celest tiger
mystic basin
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no 3

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breaker se ws

mystic basin
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all now chaos slaves

neon cedar
lone rampart
smoky vortex
keen copper
astral ermine
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Judge not a roster, for thee too have shame past the first row

smoky vortex
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no duplicate class??? kraken alert

royal ocean
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Let me innnnnnnnnnnn

vocal pollen
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unfortunate

smoky vortex
royal ocean
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Entrance destroyed and i cannot get in

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xdddddddddddd

vocal pollen
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yeah, under 1640 it's a lot harder to find a group for em

smoky vortex
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this too

celest tiger
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hm so bots in chaos gates is still a thing KEKW

vocal pollen
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the only chaos gate I got into pre 1640, it had a TON of igniter chaos bots

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ended up having to solo the final boss cause they all died xddd

celest tiger
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yeah i stopped doing chaos gates a long time ago because of it KEKDog

astral ermine
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they won't bid on card packs either to give a gold split

quartz turret
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things got so much better with 1680 chaos gate

celest tiger
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if i get there soon i may try it

queen grail
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wahoo 2 free-tap's in a row

royal ocean
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What's the most achieved ilvl rn ?

mystic inlet
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1900 Clueless

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Just kidding I think max is

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1725?

astral ermine
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1715+20 for now, +40 after next raid release

mystic inlet
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Ok 1735

keen copper
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1740

mystic inlet
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Damn

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Has anyone reached it yet

keen copper
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yeah

astral ermine
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IIRC the Strike HM raid req will be 1740

mystic inlet
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And it's possible with sidereal weapon only right?

keen copper
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the one and only asuun ofc really

mystic inlet
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Wait

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The guy who got perma?

keen copper
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yep

mystic inlet
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AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Sounds like the guy was living in the game

vocal pollen
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more like his wallet 😼

mystic inlet
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We have Habe in eu

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With sidereal+9

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He spent like 12k euros

queen grail
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Only 12k Euro's with Sid 9? SusBread

mystic inlet
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Yeah he told us he spend that much

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Might be fake who knows

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But that's what he said when I asked

wintry depot
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12k only isnt possible with esther 9

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Either hes lying about amount spent or he rmted

mystic inlet
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I think so too

wintry depot
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Asuun was a 120k $ spent in f4

mystic inlet
wintry depot
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Not counting rmt

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Esther 9 cost more than 50k$

mystic inlet
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Maybe he got really lucky Clueless

wintry depot
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Its not about luck

keen copper
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pocket change

wintry depot
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Im saying total

mystic inlet
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Sounds excessive as fuck

wintry depot
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We arent tlking about asuun

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Habe said he spent 12k

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And has side 9

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I said asuun spent 120k in steam

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Guy is just lying

queen grail
#

Ye, I don't buy 12k$ For Esther 9 Looking Must have been for the last level or a gross understatement.

mystic inlet
#

Yeah he said he spent more on the game, but the sidereal was the most expensive

queen grail
#

Also, if you swipe for Esther 9, you 100% swipe for more stuff, cracked acc's, juiced char's, high honing, etc etc.

wintry depot
#

Full relic, full 10s on main

queen grail
#

buhhloon If I remember correct the WD with Esther 9 I was in Echidna with had H/H On all Acc's Despairge

#

Just that alone is what? 15 mil Looking

wintry depot
#

Cracked high high neck

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Yeah his accs are cracked

vague stirrup
#

og Shandi vs Saydon fights are just different

wintry depot
#

1740 main, 1730

queen grail
#

clowneg Is best Legion Boss

wintry depot
#

1710 1700

cosmic flame
#

thats chuan alt

queen grail
#

Hp on neck SAD rip, he has to re-buy.

wintry depot
#

Def not 12k spent

mystic inlet
#

Yeah he is a whale for sure

queen grail
#

SAD What are these pleb items.

astral ermine
#

didn't LOAON say that only 13 High/High/High items had been rolled

uncut dirge
#

so for a 1670

astral ermine
#

and that's assuming all 3 are useful affixes

uncut dirge
#

the best combination of getting T4 mats from raids is to do

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brel, aegir, behemoth, solo echidna with no gold

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and then buy chests

vague stirrup
#

is to do all of them

mystic inlet
#

All of them

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Valtan included

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Get everything

wintry depot
#

I do brel, aegir, behe without gold, echidna with gold

mystic inlet
#

Indulge yourself

queen grail
#

SMH My neck got scam sale ree I put the bid-price to low.

vague stirrup
#

Go down to Argos

uncut dirge
#

solo echidna chest vs loot mats are about the same value as behemoth

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unlike hard mode echidna

wintry depot
#

Echidna gives 1.5k more

wintry depot
#

Hard ofc

uncut dirge
#

but if you buy boxes then echidna boxes aren't really worth it

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but solo echidna boxes are

mystic inlet
vague stirrup
#

if you did all the math then what's the point of discussion tho

mystic inlet
#

Ye I was about to sa that

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LMAO

uncut dirge
#

i'm telling others of an idea they might not have had

queen grail
#

FacePalm And this is why you don't have such a big difference between bid > buy-out, fml.

wintry depot
#

I dont buy echidna boxes

uncut dirge
wintry depot
#

I do

uncut dirge
#

solo echidna boxes are about the same value

wintry depot
#

I buy behe aegir and brel boxes

hot prairie
#

where's the best place in north kurzan to excavate?

wintry depot
#

I wont do solo echidna on a support

uncut dirge
#

yeah, i was about to say

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this is a bad ide aon a supp

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but on a non-support this might be the fastest way to do raids too

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tokens and the t4 mats

mystic inlet
#

Support solo Echidna works really well

uncut dirge
#

solo echidna is like an 8 minute journey

mystic inlet
#

7 mins and less

queen grail
#

Looking hard to get into grp on lopangs

uncut dirge
#

idk these days party echidna takes a long time

wintry depot
#

Group echidna isnt that much longer

uncut dirge
#

just making the group takes as long as that

mystic inlet
#

True

uncut dirge
#

@sand marsh aly's lopangs are like 1660

mystic inlet
#

Deathboi is p2w

wintry depot
#

I dont have rmt roster but it still takes 1min

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To find a lobby

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Takes longer to find a mokoko tho

uncut dirge
#

as a supp finding a lobby is fast, but you'd have to be joining a lobby that already has the second support and all that

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finding a mokoko is something you do if you play early in the morning

wintry depot
#

Supps are overflowing at 1640

mystic inlet
#

I saw a hard mode thiamine with 7 mokokos in pt

uncut dirge
#

no other time is it easy to get mokoko lobbies

mystic inlet
wintry depot
#

I got mokoko in all my lobbies and i dont play before 18

uncut dirge
#

by you i mean specifically you as a 1660+ supp

wintry depot
#

It does

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I really dont care about other party sup

astral ermine
uncut dirge
#

if the other party's sup is 1640 then so are the dps often imo

wintry depot
#

No

queen grail
#

What? Why not? Looking they are fun and It's fast on solo.

mystic inlet
queen grail
#

You can also get some item luck and earn gold shrugR

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That's because you got 25 wep and honed 1710 Looking You could have pushed all your other chars to 1690 for that cost.

cosmic flame
#

what deathboi is doing

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is correct imho

queen grail
#

Looking How is it not juicy to be 1700 with good books & gem's?

cosmic flame
#

fuck alts BorryWeird

astral ermine
#

he's here for speed, not to bleed

queen grail
#

buhhloon But, doing new raids closer to baseline is more fun.

cosmic flame
#

not touching my ilvl until I finish KBW books

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more dmg gain for me atm

mystic inlet
#

What is lopang raid?

vague stirrup
#

story express is actual cancer, this place alone takes half a life to complete

uncut dirge
#

it's like 8 hours until you're done with rethramis, yudia, west luterra, east luterra

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east luterra is basically 2 continents on its own

queen grail
#

Not sure what Mickey Mouse has to do with this.

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🐭

vague stirrup
#

East Luterra is more like three continents
Imagine a new player's face when it takes them a year to complete Luterra and then they see like 200 regions ahead on top of it KEKW

uncut dirge
#

it's more like 3 continents yeah

#

the first is the luterra's tomb thing

queen grail
#

Oh, well I'll have to disagree with you there, most new raid's on hardmode week 1-2-3 has been plenty hard buhhloon

uncut dirge
#

then you have the chapel area with the madness storyline where you fight clown

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and eventually it's the pirates stuff that has an entire new city too

vague stirrup
cosmic flame
#

so idk what you're on about

vague stirrup
#

ok so
overhoned to like 1640 with full 10s with group of 10k+ hour players that are built diff, often being ex mmo/dark souls fans?

queen grail
#

I mean, maybe It's easy for solid static groups that are mostly overgeared but for the average and even above average player there's still plenty challenges on prog and a week or two after shrugR

cosmic flame
#

I mean g4 by far the is the hardest sure

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I'm not comparing brel1 to g4

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hell no

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not even close

vague stirrup
#

nah brel is just a dps check

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g4 thae is

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whole ass different game

wintry depot
#

I mean we got brelv1 nerfed on release

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And all the mechs were solved

cosmic flame
#

hell thaemine

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would go hard.

wintry depot
#

Thae is more pattern heavy

uncut dirge
#

i agree guys, if it isn't rocket science it really isn't hard

vague stirrup
cosmic flame
#

I'm just prepping for kazeros yea

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hence why I'm wasting gold on books

queen grail
#

Ok.

cosmic flame
#

because you deffo need that lmao

wintry depot
uncut dirge
#

how do you guys play any other games btw

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if you think these are so trivial

#

like how many other games do you spend hours on prog before you can beat a boss

cosmic flame
#

I don't play other mmos

uncut dirge
#

not MMOs

#

other games

wintry depot
#

There was some in g5 and 6

tawny lion
#

Any discord kittens want free month nitro? Came with nvidia GPU

wintry depot
#

G5 was worse than g6 anyway

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Yes

queen grail
#

Huh, if you spam swap wep on Gunslinger with TTH build you can still see the shotgun icon slightly.

cosmic flame
#

well, most games I personally play are multiplayer ranked mode

queen grail
#

Funny.

wintry depot
#

We were saying brel v1 compared to thae

cosmic flame
#

so I guess I prog against real players? lol

wintry depot
#

Brel v2 is a piece of cake

uncut dirge
#

err

cosmic flame
#

so that I main swap

uncut dirge
#

i think you're glossing over what the second part of the fight looks like

queen grail
#

Nice simplification of a raid that objectively killed a ton of static groups HmmCoffee

wintry depot
#

Yes, mechs were solved by kr so it was easy

cosmic flame
vague stirrup
wintry depot
#

And it was hell to pug

queen grail
#

Next is "Hard Brell G6 was so ez it was just place meteor ggwp"

uncut dirge
#

the 2nd part of G5 brel was full of explosions that did often 1 tap players

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that's why it ended up being so difficult to finish for a lot of groups

vague stirrup
#

loa takes a whole lot more of time due to the fact that you have 3/7/15 more people to cooperate and progress with deadge

uncut dirge
#

even if they got through memory games half the arena exploding into various stuff was something that knocked people out

queen grail
#

Rosy retrospection is a proposed psychological phenomenon of recalling the past more positively than it was actually experienced.
The highly unreliable nature of human memory is well documented and accepted amongst psychologists. Some research suggests a 'blue retrospective' which also exaggerates negative emotions.
Though it is a cognitive bias...

vague stirrup
#

bruh fuck luterra i aint finishing that shit today or even tomorrow deadge

cosmic flame
#

can't expect to argue raids are hard when you have people that don't know where 7 clock and 5 clock is

queen grail
#

Please stop Deathboi Despairge

cosmic flame
#

someone fucking up does not equal

#

raid hard

#

please understand that

#

thaemine g4 was hard

#

cus his patterns

#

were insane to learn which took time

#

thats why people call g4 hard

#

lets not forget stagger in 4-2

wintry depot
#

Yes but at the time, we were dogshit at the game

cosmic flame
#

which always took 1-3 players

wintry depot
#

Thats why it was hard

#

The game came out just few months ago

#

Most people had shit build shit dmg

queen grail
#

In Brell? HmmCoffee

uncut dirge
wintry depot
#

Yes

uncut dirge
#

argos?

queen grail
#

I think most people had pretty solid builds by then no?

wintry depot
#

Not in pugs no

uncut dirge
#

cause brel hard came out like 15 months after release

wintry depot
#

There was bard using ss sh and the shitty counter

uncut dirge
#

shitty counter being what?

cosmic flame
#

I mean I doubt we one tap g4 without trans and at 1620 (current ilvl)

uncut dirge
#

the counter that actually worked like a counter?

wintry depot
#

I dont remember the name

#

Yes

#

That nobody use because u cant afford to have on your skillbard

uncut dirge
#

well, i think they only had the other counter for some months

#

because originally that was the only counter

#

most classes only had 1

cosmic flame
#

one tap* I mean yea of course

#

but

#

no where near easy

#

t4 with T skill and AP and HA

#

g4 very easy

wintry depot
#

I mean yeah ofc g4 was hard

#

But brel v1 broke most people

#

It was the first challenge in the game

uncut dirge
#

i think it was clown + brel

cosmic flame
#

clown was peak

#

idc what anyone says

uncut dirge
#

people stayed around for brel hoping it'll be better

wintry depot
#

Yeah search prokel player for 1h...

uncut dirge
#

and then when it wasn't

wintry depot
#

Funny times

uncut dirge
#

they were like "i'm out"

#

especially since the only thing on the horizon after brel was brel, but harder

vague stirrup
#

fuck clown shitgames

uncut dirge
#

i hated clown for the sam reason i hate bosses now

#

i hate when bosses move and teleport around in a twitchy way

wintry depot
#

Clown was dogshit for the overlapping patterns

uncut dirge
#

no just moving twitchily

wintry depot
#

Kinda why i hate p1 of new brel g2

queen grail
#

Let's not forget that both G5 and G6 was long fights, not short, with lots of overlap in mech's that could come at the cost of a death and ultimatly a wipe.

Long fights also makes you fatigue, It's one thing having a 5-10min raid vs 15-20min.

uncut dirge
#

or just lots of movement in general lik tienis

queen grail
#

G6 hard for one lasted a damn eternity with multiple bs pattern overlap that could kill you in a second HmmCoffee

wintry depot
#

Yeah brel g5 and 6 were so fucking long

#

G6 was almost 20mins

#

G4 thae was 25

queen grail
#

And they were both super long with overlap that could knock you off and wipe you.

wintry depot
#

5mins diff

uncut dirge
#

on the note of brel v1

#

i think that we actually made the raid harder for ourselves

#

because of yellow meteor placement

#

i think placing it on 3 and 9 would've been better

#

since what got a lot of people was 2nd shapes mech when they had to run diagonally and there were broken tiles

queen grail
#

Sure, I'm not downplaying how hard Theamine was or is, but I'm saying I think you guys are thinking too fondly back on how hard G5-6 really was.

There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of people I know just straight up skipped G5-6 and did G1-4 runs, it was because it was long, easy to mess up, lots of ways to just get fucked from overlap and a small mistake could cost you the life and ultimatly wipe you from lack of damage.

uncut dirge
#

i think people would've been better at running in a straight line vertically than horizontally

wintry depot
#

G5 and 6 were fucking long too

uncut dirge
#

i think people skipped it because of g5

#

especially in hard mode

wintry depot
#

U forget about that

#

Not even talking about 6 gates

queen grail
#

Looking Why would you skip G5-6 after you clear G1-4 because G4 was jailable?

wintry depot
#

U say as if g6 wasnt fucking 20mins

uncut dirge
#

2 people die before 2nd shapes? it's re

#

2 people place things wrong? it's re

#

picked the wrong pattern on where to stand? re
some guy didn't do the stagger correctly on the cube? re

#

like everything in that fight was basically restart spam

#

if things went wrong

turbid oriole
uncut dirge
#

there was no "well, the fight is now harder but we can continue"

turbid oriole
vague stirrup
uncut dirge
#

i think original brel was supposed to be T4

#

and the raid was supposed to be 3 different raids with 2 gates

#

or something like that

wintry depot
#

Wouldnt have change the fact that people were bad and it ws the first real challenge

uncut dirge
#

wasn't thaemine g4 participation pretty low?

queen grail
#

I mean, sure.

But I still think you're downplaying it calling it just "Cubes and slap an orb" or what you said buhhloon

Either way's Brell was infamous for killing static's, not just because it was long but also because It was pretty easy to mess up in the long ass fight HmmCoffee

wintry depot
vague stirrup
wintry depot
#

XD

uncut dirge
wintry depot
#

Just because it was 4man

uncut dirge
#

it being a new leapstone, new gear sets etc all fit

vague stirrup
#

I mean

#

Ivory

#

One person dies

#

Restart

wintry depot
#

Clown and brel has has much disgusting overlapping patterns

vague stirrup
wintry depot
#

4man is just like that

uncut dirge
#

dying in ivory's a lot harder tho

#

plus it's 4man

wintry depot
#

I can say a t1 dungeon, if one person die, u needed to restart

uncut dirge
#

also, it's technically not a guaranteed restart

#

just most groups aren't equipped to handle a death

wintry depot
#

Youre just downplaying how hard was brel

#

I dont disagree g4 thae was harder

queen grail
#

We aren't comparing tho, or, you might be, but that's not my intent, I'm just saying It's not as easy and simple as you seem to claim.

vague stirrup
#

it's not hard but it's annoying as hell

#

and random at times

uncut dirge
astral ermine
#

Forgot they need downtime for DST

uncut dirge
#

rip in peace NA

wintry depot
#

Ivory hardest mech was pulling the bull in g3 to the right pillar

uncut dirge
#

why did we do that

wintry depot
uncut dirge
#

i forgot

#

it lost something right?

lone rampart
#

what happened to playerbase seems to drop a lot ?

vague stirrup
vague stirrup
wintry depot
#
  • euc has highest playerbase and its 6am
queen grail
#

Looking But, we aren't comparing Theamine and Brell.

lone rampart
#

o

obsidian swallow
#

gatekeeping, mokoko event, no supports

wintry depot
#

And whose fault is that that theres no supps?

vague stirrup
#

like lost ark is a shit tier garbage half assed product that's incapable of doing the bare minimum and the only reason it somehow survives is because mmos are a dead genre

queen grail
#

sus Ye, but I don't think anyone's tried to claim that Brell > Theamine.

wintry depot
#

Why you still play then?

astral ermine
#

Free to login is a powerful thing

turbid oriole
#

bring back fights like g6 brel

vague stirrup
turbid oriole
queen grail
vague stirrup
#

til I can't even dye my glasses for my char KEKW

#

like what's the point

#

or why it's the case

queen grail
#

Their dye system is a bit bad ngl Hmm

wintry depot
#

A bit?

queen grail
#

And It's a crime that they don't have a in-game barber.

astral ermine
#

Considering they add new hairstyles the barber thing is a legit complaint

wintry depot
#

They said kazeros will be harder than tfm

queen grail
#

Charging full price for a hairstyle change should get you sent to the The International Criminal Court Hmm

vague stirrup
#

Arna about to blow up about running out of dyes

wintry depot
#

I have dyes

#

For once

vague stirrup
uncut dirge
astral ermine
#

the early years gave a lot more free dyes than they do lately

wintry depot
#

Well kr sometimes are out of touch because their supps generally sucks

queen grail
#

Looking The original one I joined in on was "Brell was super easy" (paraphrased)

uncut dirge
#

where in G5 you could only get one failure total on shapes mechs, more than that was an automatic wipe

vague stirrup
#

never experienced og brel

uncut dirge
#

i think whomever the devs got to design the combat system

queen grail
#

SHEESH Not even close.

wintry depot
#

Well since they cant nerf fucking re... yeah

vague stirrup
#

when I first installed the game it was 4 gates already

uncut dirge
#

they should give him a huge raise

#

like that guy is very good at what he does

fresh flint
astral ermine
#

8 buttons... that guy played Everquest back in the day

wintry depot
#

Yeah combat is good, everything else kinda sucks

turbid oriole
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queen grail
turbid oriole
queen grail
#

Yapping too much here Looking @fresh flint

fresh flint
#

Fair

uncut dirge
#

the combat feels like somebody took path of exile as a baseline

uncut dirge
#

and then simplified some needlessly complicated parts and made the game play at a speed where it feels reasonable

turbid oriole
#

global should fight for kr to get meter

vague stirrup
#

I mean, combat isnt bad and the looks of the game arent bad, too
but rest is just... lack of detail and they don't care, there's a massive potential for qol and massive potential for technical improvements, but not like sg cares

turbid oriole
#

o wait he has a react?

#

send link

uncut dirge
#

apparently he really liked the game

#

like did all the horizontals and stuff liked

queen grail
uncut dirge
#

off stream too

wintry depot
wintry depot
#

Inven was on fire when meter was "promoted"

#

People were shaming everyone there

uncut dirge
#

my earliest memory of watching something lost ark related was "a wardancer fighting some giant wolf"

turbid oriole
uncut dirge
#

in retrospect i think it was a wardancer fighting velganos

#

i guess it's no wonder i really enjoyed velganos

tranquil bridge
#

I think real gamers have been hyped since 2016 trailers..

wintry depot
#

My first video was a guy fighting fucking kaishuter

vague stirrup
mystic basin
#

who the fuck is this chisel guy and why do i keep seeing him

tranquil bridge
#

Are you going to try their new dungeon? I got an ad about it earlier

vague stirrup
#

meanwhile I was just dragged into this shit by a homie

#

a year ago or so

astral ermine
real basin
#

did you do the velganos challenge? the KR citizenship

uncut dirge
#

i think igot interested in this game because i wa slooking into lineage 3

#

since i had been waiting for that since like 2008

queen grail
#

This video is exactly the 1 video that made me pick Wardancer as my main and play it.

I didn't learn before way later that the move was not only an Awakning, but a Quest unlock one, and on top of that, one we didn't use ever Despairge

So my entire base for playing the class was just, a spell I never used pretty much SAD

#

But, still best class wahoo

astral ermine
#

still waiting on the raid where 8x Mech suits are required

vague stirrup
#

please let pw2 be a good game deadge

wintry depot
#

I chose bard because it was the only support wahoo

queen grail
wintry depot
#

Paladin wasnt on the game release

#

When i played s1 on ru

queen grail
#

Wait, huh? Looking

turbid oriole
queen grail
#

Oh, you played on RU Looking

turbid oriole
#

asmon: i hope this game is p2w

wintry depot
#

Ye

uncut dirge
#

@wintry depotwait, you're an artist main

wintry depot
#

I was rocking 300ms

uncut dirge
#

and a girl