#lost-ark-discussions
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that's only 2.6, pretty low, you can gimme that
I clicked again

just hit 4hed
I need gold
Gimme some
yeah no
cus no
no
There are new sh structures to buy
should be good
you guys know what we powercreep system we get for the next raid?
is it advance hone 20>40?
Yes
or is that even later?

nvm then, i will not ragehone my weapon
gonna need the red rocks to advc hone
yea but its slow garanteed, not some bullshit 1.5% bs or something
you have infinite gold, i have f2p gold
holy shit mods ban him
lmao
ok


15k hours doesnt equate to valuing sanity
most?
sir
please

Aero op
is that behemoth
Argeos
yeah shes new to slayer
i had to clown her a little
xD
love pitying stuff

@neon cedar

Oooo almost 1680
I blew through so many mats jesus christ
i went through 1.1k shard boxes and prob another additional 600k shards getting my ws too 1680 too 
i feel u
Hey, what's the latest NA/EU content and is there a content skip boost?
You know, like in RU version
Yeah, so, in the ru version, I paid about 50 dollars to skip to the hawaian version
Yeah, I don't remember the price, there WAS A content skip boost
hawaian region was Punika, and such system is still present, allowing you to skip to the most recent region. There're also occasional free passes, usually a region or a couple behind the newest one.
Regions since Punika were these
Holy crap... I knew about south vern and possibly rowen
It feels exponential. 1670-1680 costs the same as 1640-1670 practically
I somewhat believe powerpass (pass to the region granting you story quest and region skips + required gear) prices should be similar to ru, despite western stuff being usually pricier in various games
h8 it
im broke and matless
Same, I feel ya
They need to just nerf Adv honing already, and the cost to 1620.


I had to buy accessories for my main. I realized the ones I bought for my new sorc were better and it felt wrong
😭
giant meatball on behe is so fun
At least its better now
and when its done, its done
I fucked up last week and need 5 behemoth scales
Cant finish wep trans until reset

idk what to do
Bully

Gotta take their lumps

Shut
Bruh
Stap it, this is a lopang

This is what’s fun to me ngl
It keeps my brain busy
Time to hone your lopangs
Goals? or just raid loging?
Bruh, 3 chests on a lopang in one run 


pog
finally learned hm echidna
it's actually not bad
unless if someone is trigger happy with the counter..

so i'll take that as a no
hello my bro
instant RE feels so much better to play om
atleast 2
Morning guys
Sup Raven
would you prefer socks or underwear?

a women, whats that

whens international mens day
19 November I think 
more stonks
stfu please
yes

I mean
U have what
8 months?
Unless u talking hm Thaemine
Oh u mean hm Thae?
Oh that one
Yeah
Raid after 1700/1720
Holy shit
Unless it is giga whale bait

It has stupid min dps requirment

227m min or shit like that
So just... Double that


Oh
Yeah, just squeeze 60m more
Ez
+20 ilvl from AH before you go in
Yeah, it feels like they are rushing raids a lot
Yeah
We will see
They probably gonna nerf it
It is unrealistic to have it same as KR
When we are behind


lmao
Yeah we know
Mister Whale

Yeah
That is why he plays Pally
Pally is boomer class
imo

U can pilot it

Well ofc
Not u
Holy shit I seen so many Kek Lords
That are God awful

Bro was constantly dying in Brel nm
With Kek Lord title

the 0 line mech afterwards is 163m dps req, seems free afterwards unless people are 
RE DB hits like a truck, what is this shit man
6 button presses, infinite damage

watching memorizer's clear, he ate 2 beams but didn't timestop the 2nd one while his pot was on CD 😦
the panic
kernel devs? stop it

No man
Please no
Depends
Are they moving from EAC?
Or are they talking about trusted system
If they are talking about trusted system
That is biggest piece of dogshit I ever seen
I don't trust AGS with anti-cheats

Sorry, not sorry
They are incompetent.
To ever create and run anti-cheat
Bro
There is not even that many players

Even in FFXIV
Or WoW

Yes it is

100 million bot accounts
The system is shit
There is a lot of false positives
When they have anti-cheat on level of Vanguard, let me know

If they create kernel level anti-cheat
I'm uninstalling LOA
I don't trust them to run kernel level program on my pc.
EAC is not owned or developed by AGS
So I'm chilling
But moment they have in house kernel level anti-cheat
I'm done
kernel anti-cheats don't solve the problem, the reason it works somewhat for valorant is because you don't want cheats to be widely distributed, but the major RMT farms using private cheats that bypass their kernel anti-cheat will still run tens of thousands of bots and keep doing it, those are 99% of that 100 million, not the few idiots running chaos bots
if anyone can go pay $20 for a cheat, so can your devs, so you just detect it and move on
Join us in building anti-cheat solution
It literally says there

Solution is a program
Man

It is 
EAC and Vanguard are called anti-cheat solutions
What are they?

Candy?
Oh God no... I take that back. I would run their kernel level anti-cheat
Just get rid of trusted

Apply
Fix the game

OSRS added click tracking and other telemtry to their client so they could analyze player behavior server side, faking that convincingly is difficult, the only downside is you have to be flagged before it gets turned on, though tbh with the data LOA already collects you could probably detect most bots pretty effectively
the fact that they're looking for reverse engineering says they're trying to make a client-side anti-cheat, 
Yeah, pretty much
I may apply 
I don't want to run unproven anti-cheat by AGS
It is also funny that they don't want to add Linux compatibility inside EAC
Dicks

It is one command...

EAC has option already baked in
They did enabled it in one patch and then turned it off again

They did enabled it with update
And then they fucked up again
And borked it

can't make everything server authoritative when the combat is this involved
I mean they can
I really wish Riot started licencing Vanguard
It would been so much better
But also, regular anti-cheat won't work in Lost Ark
We don't have players for it to be fed data
they can't, you wouldn't be able to play above 10 ping
it's behavioral analysis which is pretty easy to do and would be extremely effective against any non-sophisticated bots.. and we've all seen them running around, these are about as budget as you can get
you need to trust that the client is sending atleast a decent chunk of valid data
they walk to the exact same points in the exact same sequences and do the exact same things probably with similar timings
also the issues with bots isn't detecting them, but avoiding false positives
No
sometimes people just act like bots
Server side checking doesn't increase ping
Ban implementation does
But once again, it is AGS

PoE2 pretty much has server-side anti-cheat
Yet u don't see unstable ping

I wouldn't be concerned about false positives if it was built well, it's pretty easy to get like 6-7 9s of confidence that it's a bot and not a human
I didn't say it increases ping, I said it would be unplayable
also poe isn't a good example, because it spins an instance just for you or your party
match based games or RPGs?
I still don't think bots is the main issue with the game and it's a bit
they aren't focusing on the fact that there are no new players, we used to have like 300k bots and that didn't really prevent people from picking up or enjoying the game, it was more of a wtf is AGS doing kindof thing
Both
True
They are too focused on bots
They don't see bigger problems
You mean how their pricing model for RC itself is ass which makes Botted gold inherently cheaper and more lucrative?
I never understood why theres like 40€ package deals in the store that give u like 4 weapon taps or something.... fucking wild.
im probably just too poor to understand it
because people buy them
No, I whaled and those are God awful
Other games literally provide better value
I have 0 reasons to buy those fuckers
And I spend on other games instead
if u gonna whale just buy skins and sell them for gold then buy the mats u prolly gona get like 1000x more
True
Yeah, literally buy skins
Sell for gold
Buy mats
And hone
More value then shitpacks
that T4 pack is terrible value, the $50 ayaya pack was huge value
I think actually selling RC for gold is actually higher value than the T4 pack
that should never be a thing 
you mean the monthly x10?
yeah the monthly one
ehm
Yeah
right now you'd pay 1.5m gold for all the mats in the x10
Those are terrible
if you convert the RC, you get ~950k
whether it's a good dollar to mats value is a different matter
Yeah but with 1m gold I can just buy mats
How much i need
And not have billion blues left
Man idk man somethings up with warrior subclass players man


dw this guy has omegadented takes
How so
It's now 1 kaya clear for stone upgrade kek
I'm genuinely curious how I have dented takes
no idea 
Yeah pretty good change and it just silver

My relic t3 bench characters gonna be getting their ancient stones
now that's what I'm talkin bout
Must be nice
both my world bosses in the last 24 hours were MP Effic books as the auction, then random leggo books as the drops
hope server dies before anyone can bid
Need to get spare gold I karma'd out
BIG
You gonna share that 5k
never

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Bro scouter looks cool
a scoote enjoyer
Nah I don't play him
But I will say the skin for it does look cool
It happened
GRATS
rich get richer ong
I haven't found a gold chest yet, still waiting

he's tasted the smooth gameplay of RE, he can never play jank again
And easy af rotations
Yeah I'll take your spare gems then
You pumping?
Yes
that lvl 8 better be surge
Almost impossible to not do damage on RE
Yes
or soul absorber CD
No, it will be dmg surge
I have no issues with CD with 7's
If I fuck up or miss, I just cast T skill
What should we see here?

What's wrong?
Seems like normal mokoko party
I mean I filled Behemoth with full 1700+ with my mokoko
fk moko
We have like 5 in guild

was doing a behe with the guild, we had it like half full and after I joined suddenly the applicant list was just flooded with 1690+ lmfao
Damn monopoly moment
mokoko buff op
fk moko and Lost Ark

thaemine g4?
Why don't u join us? @quaint lagoon
Yes
I suck
i wonder how much you even need to prog with modern damage
Join the guild I mean
major mechs only, a few patterns?

Oh my guild is my static
Well, it is a learning party
So
Not everyone is on 1660+
Some people are on 1640
Or below
New players aswell


Hiw though
Real
what raid
Probs aegir nm
No way it's behemoth
Actually could be brel aswell cause he doesn't have title
NK boss trolled me tho, I soul absorber, he long jumps across the map, I spincutter, spacebar, and T over, then hit void strike, and he immediately backsteps back halfway across the map.. missed both SA and void strike
I just sat there waiting for CDs 
🫵 🤣
I can do those with guild now
I'm talking before

This game without friends or guild is unplayable
Expecially with mokoko bootcamp now
Yeah this game becomes infinitly better when you have static/guild or friends playing
Just night and day difference
just be a mokoko
true
Which is obv better then gate 0
It's why new mokoko should join learning discords first then get carried
After they did it a couple of times
do ppl give up fast at endgame raids still
Yep
yes
Depends on party but even reclear will insta disband after q or 2
Queue the static drama 
Tbh static drama barely happened to me
then you have mokokos w/ this mentality... so when im a mokoko i can essentially just int the raid and nobody cares cuz im a fraud anyway die in the first phase? no biggie bro im a mokoko
I've been very unlucky
i dont get those ppl

Game attracts mentally ill people among the sound minded sadly
Like a 1 shot clear hw party makes sense to leave after 1 or 2 fails
Cause it's not what the lobby asked for
But reclear means less then 10 clear atleast for me
you know how that goes tho
you could've just seen easy pattern RNG on your kill, you're not consistent enough to demand 1-shots until you've done the fight at least a few times
Basically
what do you do to get the 10x title tho always join learnings?
Idk it's also a tricky subject aswell because people shouldn't have to also play with people if they are getting jailed
So can also understand time constraints
And other factors and reason it's not so black and white sadly
Very unfortunate
Oh actually I had one example I guess
They went off and played by themselves after they ask us to wait for them they left the static shortly after we said you can't waste 6 othe people's time
Otherwise just mutually understandable reason to leave like burn out and schedule chnages
one of the downsides of having to do 3 raids on up to 6 chars
you wanna get it done in a couple of days so you can chill the rest of the week and probably don't want that to take 12 hours a day

Got shocked by argeos on my summoner cause I decided to cast spear into akir just before he lazored me


I don't deserve it
I know
But to help team
I throw destruction on it
And use atrophine
Stop being cheapo
No one else got shocked
@wicked blade 

"just take any supp it's behe"
dies 3 times
doesn't take purple nado
destroys crystal
om

karma is so free, just hit
just hit 4hed
how about i hit you
do it 
It is fine man, zheng and cheesewheel are chuans alts

Pog
Oh God
noob
Bully
Almost done running it
I have 5 more chaos, 3 more guardians and 4 more event ones

Oof
that stuff being ilvl locked is evil, when the mokoko event doesn't do it 
Real
I think last time they had a bracelet reroll it wasn't item lvl locked

Or was it 1660
It was 1670
Not 1680
Ah that makes sense then
On brel item pvl
Yet they have it on 1680
But now it's not xdd
One second
Xd
🫡
f2pbtw
paying 100 dollar for 20% artisan energy
Xd
Real only people like Saturn asuun are the true p2w players
what does 1680 do

you think you get into a aegir hm lobby?
Gets him a bracelet reroll from the event shop
I play RE Blade
i guess you can do scorpion
And yes, I can get into hm lobby
Scorpion, 1680 chaos, changes how RE plays with 4th line elightment, hm Aegir

1680 cube
Also next raid entrance
I can just join guild runs

I used PF this week only 2 times
For Brel nm and Aegir nm
Damn enlightenment gatekeeping
Yeah

next week they gonna ask for 100+ 
If you don't get chest
Can't be bothered to wait double
I should be getting full ancient in next 3 weeks
With Brel nm
I'm on 2 pieces rn
And weapon, 5 weeks
I not gonna spend brel mats on that shit
I'm not gonna do weapon until they force me

5 weeks
Not gonna hone it pass max relic anyway
So it being ancient only makes me look good but I only play with static/guild
I want DB to be giga
Fair enough

Ooooof
if the reds didn't tap on 25% this would be an 8/8
people undercut my lvl 7 gem >:c

Finally done with all shit
who pinged me
Undeserving

yearning
6 times 9
Sex

where
At 69
why is your color so grungy
om om om
colorblind settings
What's wrong with that?
That's how I died

Thanks for reminding me
gunga to gunga money arrives fast huh
whats the link for transcendence calculator? the one linked on lostark nexus doesnt work anymore
reworked
no need
Who wants to carry me through a HM Echidna when I dont know any mechs :)
just tap until 3 flowers or RE
oh, thanks 😛
have you watched a guide? 
its confusing :(
I started a notepad and got lost in the sauce
Selling materials on the market tend to have instant money delivery, you might not be familiar with it tho, considering who you are. 
good tldr for g1 ngl
i do sell materials even if i'm whomst u thunk i am ist


If u have juiced party, u are skipping most of those
Unless deadlock mech
@queen grail Oh u alive

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Theres so much info ;w;
worst part is you dont even need half of that with the current gear
unless you really plan to do echidna on ilvl 8 people learning
You can skip mechs?
yes
mirrors aswell
You're saying I studied all of this just to skip it all :(

I can't dye fucking glasses
My outfit idea is ruined and my disappointment is immeasurable
Echdina Infernal mode when
What was on release
i meant this
i know

Are the wings a drop or a bid option
both
:(
So what you're saying is Im never gonna see them
Cause I still havent seen Kayangel wings after like a year
Welcome back 
but yeah for g2 you:
burst her down to 210, do mirror counters
burst her down to 137, do stagger
hit until 120 snakes use hypers to kill both snakes
burst down to 60-ish, wait for her special pattern with flame walls use epherno dude burst to 0 to skip mirror mech
0 just hit until dead
what gets skipped in g1

I seen like...
4 mechs in Echidna
Cuz I can't skip them
if you have a lot of dmg

you skip 110 to 0
Ye
you skip the ads and side stagger, go straight into last 50 bars
wait you can skip the entire mini boss?
or rather you need to hit 50 bars
110 -> 50 you skip everything
you have to get him to 50 bars before the cutscene after counters
is this good?
does that count as juiced
if other party looks like that too yes
no its just those 3
are you mokoko
mhm
if yes you get free carried anyways
Does party 2 do stagger always
whatever raidleader decides
might obviously not smart to let 4 highheels do stagger
high heels is crazy
yes let the mEn(warriors) stagger 
We have a gunlancer, does anything else even matter
no
you can also just do the raid in solo mode..it has basically almost everything
(on different char?)

"is this good"

fuck you
you see what i mean? rng caried

Jokes on you
It's not mine.
It's from #rng-luck-fails

Ye, Echi run's with some juicer's are fast nowadays

wild soul does so much dmg its unreal
akkan g3 80 -> 13 bars in 1 burst..like the raid is on the same ilvl
Very smol
i love aegir groups man

hm
nah pob someone did
OH its the entirity of echidna
i was reading it was gate 1 cause the trophy was the gate 1 boss
oops
ya i understand now 

Would have been 40%++ if I played the more broken build 
Might have to swap to 🦊
not for It being stronger tho, but playing the swift is so spammy
get's pesky in long fights.
need your luck vibes 
Not mine sadly, just using it as a joke since someone asked if Legendary roll on Meta was strong 
aw dang 
yeah i gave up on behe
i stopped playing 3 of my 1640 supports for months because it was impossible to get into behe lobby
now they can rot in pf waiting for supports 
lobby sim is so bad
@lyric plaza 
@thorny olive 
Yaaay, koko Vora back to destroying raids
this week learning behe next week aegir and maybe in 2 weeks brel

The raids aren't hard, so you'll be oki 
Huh? Support shortage makes any support get in pretty much
There was too many supports so he gave up playing them, now there's not enough supports but he's basically saying "fk em"
it's literally almost impossible to find lobbys in aegir nm rn as a dps on ilvl

he's going with me tho for Behemoth, right? @charred void


you can make lobby in 10 minutes ill join, pick up some refugees from here too
surely wont be hard to find 3 more supports
I mean, my guy, I'm not home now and I'll find a decent leaf grp and just tell em to take you 
support shortage even hitting the support engravings, its over

Leaf don't exist

Hacks
I just bought cubes and chaos pots

eu?
just put on yearning set

bring a nice campfire
at least the main characters can't yap about "mYsUpPoRt uPtImE iS dOg!!!!11" when they cant even enter the raid 

Should have released female paladin first
drop all and be free 
I would never join those groups tbh
yknow
i considered this
but
idk

hunt some monsters or something
Nyo you're busy ratting my embers 
same, if everyone had that approach those groups wouldnt exist
ppl only go as far as theyre allowed to go
Are these ever gonna drop ;w;
I dont like gathering :(
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