~85-92 im just bad
#lost-ark-discussions
wintry depot
viscid sand
Like for bard and paladin, half the time you have better skills to press than your rhap/gsl cause they give piss meter anyway
wintry depot
Anyway gngn
smoky vortex
~85-92 im just bad
low cd gems
thorny olive
~85-92 im just bad
Is okay 
wintry depot
low cd gems
I have 8 and 7
thorny olive
Anyway gngn
Sleep well
smoky vortex
I have 8 and 7
ok and 6s are 40k , I dont play a supp why im i here
thorny olive
~85-92 im just bad
I don't always have 90+ all the time either, we can be bad together
thorny olive
thorny olive
Go higher
Artist actually do benefit alot from higher gems because she has higher base cooldowns compared to like bard
thorny olive
For me it's easier to keep good ap uptime on bard compared to artist
viscid sand
when is scooter getting his awakening back
Nice try. We're scouter, not sorceress.
Pretty sure they tried to find scouter in the build and forget they named us machinist
So they didn't find anything
mystic basin
viscid sand
what's a scouter
minor plaza
i just came back
into the addiction
quit playing before theamine/echidna
and now i am mega confused
what happened to my engravings?
where is 5x3+2
vocal pollen
now you get ark passive engravings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad7xL5eSpOo this might help you
dull obsidian
mb thanos 9/7 stone bis
thorny olive
where is 5x3+2
Oh no
thorny olive
Kat biggest dum
No u dum
dull obsidian
bleak zinc
real basin
is there a tool to check if your stones are good for any class?
lunar hedge
and stay the fuck down :😤
dull obsidian
Broskis
no way they are not gonna buff the event guardian to atleast 2x reward right?
that shit is awful to play
final gale
How the fuck am i mvp
vocal pollen
they should, since they made it only 1580+
dull obsidian
<a:Ayayapunch:1162781647721214023>
real basin
I have grudge, kbw, doll, ambush, raid captain, and adrenaline registered, but idk if there's a few others that will be good stones with 1 of those, dunno if I should just set to auto-dismantle anything without 2
neon cedar
hide names please @final gale
thorny olive
How the fuck am i mvp
Your team dealt more damage than the other team 
Oh nvm, ur the pala?
Idk, paladin is broken
The badges I guess
minor plaza
ah so they simplified lost ark
by a lot
instead of dealing with the old system of 5x3 and whatnot
vocal pollen
now you just pick your 5, and can increase em with stones
minor plaza
and like sets
vocal pollen
sets are gone
thorny olive
and like sets
Yeah, Evolution is now your "set"
Enlightenment is your class engraving
vocal pollen
now you gotta get all the books read though
as opposed to way back, when you had accessories doing all the work except the points from the two you pick
minor plaza
Yeah, Evolution is now your "set"
Enlightenment is your class engraving
is my hammer and wedge bracelet still good however?
thorny olive
is my hammer and wedge bracelet still good however?
It's still good, but you'll want to try upgrade to a T4 bracelet later on if you do the new brel raid for karma to upgrade leap, because T4 bracelets give leap points
dull obsidian
hammer wedge better than any relic brace you'd get tbh
better than 2 line ancient
3 line ancient >
celest tiger
yeah i'm thinking t3 bracelet until t4 ancient maybe?
celest tiger
oh right, maybe one day they'll adjust that too 
dull obsidian
probably not
thorny olive
Leap T skill upgrade is powerful on most classes, so it's basically a question of "does my current bracelet give more damage than upgraded T skill"
swift tree
thorny olive
bleak zinc
nocturne raft
swift tree
final gale
hide names please <@821099966427824189>
how da fak do i hide names on an mvp scren
wat da
vocal pollen
you edit your screenshot before posting
final gale
i understand bible but for mvp screen is kinda crazy
neon cedar
how da fak do i hide names on an mvp scren
the meter picture
final gale
oh
thorny olive
i understand bible but for mvp screen is kinda crazy
It was the bible you dum
bleak zinc
Lets go Barbatosgundam
final gale
is my guild inhouse
thorny olive
Lets go Barbatosgundam<:MokokoRaid:1119325184277610576>
Oh no
bleak zinc
vocal pollen
oh I didn't even notice the mvp screen if I am being honest, just saw the meter pic, then saw it went poof
🫣
fresh flint
thorny olive
vocal pollen
fresh flint
neon cedar
The jumpscare face is gone
vocal pollen
lol
sullen vortex
Lets go Barbatosgundam<:MokokoRaid:1119325184277610576>
he quit 
there was post on steam discussions
bleak zinc
oh so was the post on steam real since someone said a few days after they saw him reach 1700 or so
sullen vortex
ig i can check my friendlist and see if actually deleted lol
I just believed it the guy been grinding game non stop so many arena games
real basin
bleak zinc
always when i was around in kurzan i saw him posting some text in chat and had a good laugh, would be sad even if its only on my alteserver
fresh flint
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
Now it’s stuck there forever
vocal pollen
I should try to boost my Destroyer's gear, but also, it started at 70% 
fresh flint
I should try to boost my Destroyer's gear, but also, it started at 70% <:mokokoT...
You should have like 200 free quality taps
vocal pollen
tru
bleak zinc
🫡
fresh flint
Go try
vocal pollen
ok, i'll try before I go and attempt Thaemine again
just got done watching Deathboi's video, got dis
vocal pollen
- 20% of gold was not returned when honing using Metallurgy: Decay [13-15] / Tailoring: Decay
oh nice, so I should get gold back... right?
right???
sullen vortex
always when i was around in kurzan i saw him posting some text in chat and had a...
nevermind lmao
bleak zinc
but thanks for checking 🙂
queen grail
- 20% of gold was not returned when honing using Metallurgy: Decay [13-15] / Tai...
I didn't have any return books.
How are they messing up so much.
real basin
holy shit, x2 -> x5 slaps, can this happen every time
queen grail
lunar hedge
a clear is a clear
vocal pollen
the return books were from Ivory tower solo + Thaemine solo
from the challenge thing
lime flicker
server going down why.....
vocal pollen
You should have like 200 free quality taps
150 armor, 100 wep ones
vocal pollen
ye
lunar hedge
server going down why.....
likely fixing 1600 express box and other things
fresh flint
Like dude
nocturne raft
For 3 hours
vocal pollen
I had these left 😦
lunar hedge
i already did what i want to do tonight. bedge
fresh flint
I was just about to get on. I hate them so much sometimes.
neon cedar
I was just about to get on. I hate them so much sometimes.
Log on and lets do Behemoth
lunar hedge
Last minute behe?
neon cedar
Aside from my 1640s
Oh thats why I ask. I wanna run my Breaker
native wadi
man the gear upgrading system in this game makes BDO's look darn right generous
nocturne raft
Is behe Hard to get if you do it as a First Timer ? Just curious
neon cedar
Its super easy
fervent ibex
so is this gonna be compensated somehow or they just gonna gloss over it
neon cedar
Most groups these days skip everything and nuke him in G1. G2 you have to do the 190x mech & learning tornadoes is good.
lunar hedge
we are. eating
neon cedar
A "lower" ilvl group might do 1 or 2 guardians
neon cedar
Yee, its fast + LOS
nocturne raft
Most groups these days skip everything and nuke him in G1. G2 you have to do the...
Thanks for the Tipp :)
neon cedar
Thanks for the Tipp :)
Still watch a guide to know what to expect. But its probably the easiest raid we have rn
nocturne raft
fuck it we ball. last min echidna
I wish i could do it too... for now i'm stuck for 2 weeks on my Painter cuz i dont have Akkan gear 
mystic basin
ok nvm
nocturne raft
Still watch a guide to know what to expect. But its probably the easiest raid we...
Alright easy sounds good, hopefully not that easy like thaemine done it today as a New Player without guide in 2 trys not a flex but i think i was Hella lucky 
swift tree
keen copper
i just looked at the dmg of the other spec
neon cedar
Alright easy sounds good, hopefully not that easy like thaemine done it today as...
If you have a mokoko leaf itll be even easier and everyone will want you in their group.
You can ge a huge carry
neon cedar
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
Inanna up?
swift tree
Inanna up?
5 mins
nocturne raft
If you have a mokoko leaf itll be even easier and everyone will want you in thei...
Well... time to log in again
swift tree
swift tree
this is how old my zerker is
swift tree
rip
neon cedar
My chaos stones are my prized possession
peak loom
When maintenance
swift tree
punika maps 
neon cedar
I like the description of the Valtan & Vykas mats. "Probably be sold" as if there is a chance it wont work
swift tree
aaaaaaaand thats over
Did you hyper after mirrors?
nocturne raft
no Mokoko @neon cedar this Game hates me
swift tree
<:Sadge:882711949668937748> no Mokoko <@202959015641219072> this Game hates me ...
you log in within 60 days?
vocal pollen
Thaemine event books don't give the 20% refund
fresh flint
Oh thats why I ask. I wanna run my Breaker
We do later
nocturne raft
you log in within 60 days?
yeah last time was like 40-50 days ago
neon cedar
<:Sadge:882711949668937748> no Mokoko <@202959015641219072> this Game hates me ...
Did you make a raid in party finder to test? it only shows in party finder
neon cedar
We do later <:peepomeow:1340132486285492327>
Okayge, if im not hunter monsters
swift tree
HP of Brelshaza hell mode was different than intended
O.o
lunar hedge
swift tree
<:NomNom:1109289982432120843>
stacks as well
lunar hedge
i can sleep well tonight
swift tree
so it's 24 + what you have
nocturne raft
Did you make a raid in party finder to test? it only shows in party finder
Also no 
lunar hedge
holy shit
real basin
kk, 1640, only 2 pieces left to advanced hone and then 2 taps on each piece to 1660
i need to fix my elixirs tho, ugh
vocal pollen
redemption, chest + pants both only took two hones
real basin
my biggest wins were a 1 then 2 tap on weapon, and then an x2x5 on weapon advanced honing to get like 2.5 levels, wish I could do that all the time
vocal pollen
i'm 1609 so far, will do some grinding for shards once servers back up, prob try to get "some" adv honing done in T3.... maybe
real basin
advanced honing is where I started losing big gold tho
tawny lion
What’s with the maintenance
vocal pollen
I figure it'd be cheaper in t3 than 4, I'd just lose on t4 mats
real basin
missing awakening skill I guess?
vocal pollen
But me inefficient af
lunar hedge
It's just scouter
vocal pollen
mystic basin
so
real basin
los30
graceful rune
are they gonna refund my gold
3 pheons as a sorry
real basin
i haven't done n kurzan story yet, is that required first?
mystic basin
oh nvm
mystic basin
i haven't done n kurzan story yet, is that required first?
oh ye
but you can kt
assuming youve done it before
or
buy a powerpass
real basin
real basin
surpass my limits beatrice
real basin
got it in time
vocal pollen
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1344894996297551912/Sc...
that just says they are fixing those not working, I have a feeling that they won't end up refunding spent gold / mats 
thorny olive
that just says they are fixing those not working, I have a feeling that they won...
Yeah... 😭
uncut dirge
ok question: if you had another roster with just a single character on it
would you express something on it
it feels wasteful not to, but i don't really wanna play the roster
vocal pollen
I wouldn't, I mean, I have 7 mid-high T3 chars on my NA E server, but just don't play em
uncut dirge
hmm, good point
i do play that one char on the roster: honed her up to 1660 and did all the things but
vocal pollen
yep 3 hour maint
uncut dirge
i've put multiple events on that char
so i'm like full event gems (level 6-7s T4)
so it's not like making a 2nd char there i could even share gems
and the honing just seems so ungodly expensive right now
real basin
the pp is worth, plus some free mats from the first steps of the event, but if you don't play it you won't have the gold to hone much
uncut dirge
ah i guess it would be worth it for the cards alone
real basin
los 18 should be easy to get, you need to get to 1590 for that one?
uncut dirge
well, there's a lot of time
i'm a sucker for progression so i'll feel compelled to get at least those anyway
real basin
hm.. they said they're gonna work on giving everyone the gold from the chest that was bugged, I wonder if that means they'll get SG to give them a maintenance script that will go and refund gold for every hone using those books as well
vocal pollen
doubt, would be nice, but...
mortal burrow
it's only 1490 but yeah
mortal burrow
hm.. they said they're gonna work on giving everyone the gold from the chest tha...
the real question is
WHERE ARE MY TOKENS FROM CHAOS AND GR 😠
south harbor
WHERE ARE MY TOKENS FROM CHAOS AND GR 😠
real basin
why is that event 1580+ only, I can't even just slam it with a bunch of baby alts to finish it quickly, I gotta do it every day
south harbor
20?
real basin
that means it's not possible for a new player who just started and used the PP with this event to start playing to buy out the shop
vocal pollen
people claim that in some video Henry was in, he said you'd get tokens from like, everywhere
uncut dirge
man i looked at the event
you gotta do 68 of those guardians to buy out the shop
actual pain
real basin
maybe it is, you need 69 clears or smth, less if you're not 1680 to buy everything, so every day for 2.5 months
south harbor
how long is it for?
uncut dirge
1 month i think?
mortal burrow
that means it's not possible for a new player who just started and used the PP w...
someone mentioned you needed 3 clears per day
on avg
or like 2.7
mortal burrow
1 month i think?
in game it says 1 month, on notes it says 2 months
🤷
if it's 2 months, then on avg we need 1.4 clears per day
mortal burrow
if it's only one then 2.7
swift tree
i haven't done n kurzan story yet, is that required first?
It's required for Kurzan Front, yeah
kinda need to start the war before being able to take part in it
mortal burrow
how do you run .7 of an event just say 3 and really make people sweat
i mean
basically you would run 27 days out of 30
kind of
swift tree
someone mentioned you needed 3 clears per day
You can run the guardian on any character, there's not a minimum.
500s out of North Vern that cost 800 gold can be ran
mortal burrow
i may be tired so not 100% run
mortal burrow
^
swift tree
the new guardian is 1580+
actually?
mortal burrow
yes
vocal pollen
yes
swift tree
Then they mis-advertised it
swift tree
Notes / Henry said "Available to All Players" it's also besides the fucking point since it gives you stats for free.
south harbor
surely they just forgot to let them drop in dailies dw maint will fix it 
mortal burrow
surely they just forgot to let them drop in dailies dw maint will fix it <:COPIU...
I think they mentioned that it should also be from chaos and GR from the
vid
swift tree
And any major difference between a 500 and 1580 gets negated by AP being turned off
(Yes I know they'll only have 2 engravings).
south harbor
I think they mentioned that it should also be from chaos and GR from the
yeah but henry also showed different rewards one time and nothing came of it so iswaditis
swift tree
Meanwhile they straight up advertised the wrong Ark Pass skins and we got a whole cosmetic line reintroduced to satisfy the issue
We technically got one skin set from an Ark Pass 3 times as a result
First time, Second time due to error, Third time to release a version for Specialist
mortal burrow
And any major difference between a 500 and 1580 gets negated by AP being turned ...
the stat distribution might be a little off
you dont get more than 30 pasive points for a bit
until relic set
either that or level 60
but it doesn't really matter
b/c our stats are scuffed anyways
south harbor
its equalised it doesnt matter
swift tree
I mean yeah, but the buffs also build off roster passive anyhow
mortal burrow
its equalised it doesnt matter
nono but like the spread might be off a lil bit
swift tree
obv a new player wont have as much but they'll still have some with a single character having done Arkesia Tour
mortal burrow
if you have like 10 spec and 10 crit rather than 15 spec and 5 crit, your "equalized stats" would change
swift tree
the stat distribution might be a little off
I mean Spec classes are already screwy enough
mortal burrow
I mean Spec classes are already screwy enough
I wonder
vocal pollen
mortal burrow
what would happen if i removed all the stats except 1
mortal burrow
btw that guide is assuming that the event is 2 months instead of 1
vocal pollen
yeah
minor plaza
ran into a small problelm lmao
my SE has a 100 qual weapon with salad gear
and i activated the event on her
so did i just waste
like 90+ red weapon stones?
vocal pollen
you "can" transfer it
minor plaza
neat
vocal pollen
mortal burrow
and i activated the event on her
by waste do you mean your red stones are useless?
if so, yes
steady crater
mortal burrow
by waste as in you should have not used them on a previous piece of gear, then no
minor plaza
rip my red stones lol
vocal pollen
you can still transfer it to a new piece
just gotta do the steps in that thing
not pleasant, but
it is possible
mortal burrow
you can still transfer it to a new piece
i thought they meant the stones that they got from the event are uselss
minor plaza
no i meant do these apply roster wide
mortal burrow
b/c the event does give you a lot of qual taps
minor plaza
or only character bound
mortal burrow
yes char bound
vocal pollen
if you opened the box, they're char
minor plaza
well rip
vocal pollen
but the box itself is roster iirc
I assumed you used the red stones on a low ilvl piece and wanted it transfered to the akkan, my misunderstanding
remote quiver
So all the gold that didn't come from chests or returned with certain book honing won't be returned, nice. -.-
remote quiver
Yes 1600 chest was bugged
vocal pollen
yes, and they said they're trying to return that gold
remote quiver
The books one is big too, I can't see from a coding point how they could return it
but nice news on the chest at least
mortal burrow
did the books state it was supposed to return gold tho o-o
vocal pollen
going off what I saw in another discord, apparently something similar worked with chaos dungeons, and they were able to refund things
mortal burrow
i don't remember it saying that
does anyone have the ss of the books
or at least the 1600+ books
vocal pollen
mortal burrow
oh on the bottom
real basin
The books one is big too, I can't see from a coding point how they could return ...
they log like everything that happens in the game, they'd have a script look at the logs for every hone using one of these books, calculate how much it should've refunded, and add all that up
mortal burrow
do you know if the 16-19 said taht too
real basin
but AGS wouldn't do that, they'd need SG to make it most likely
vocal pollen
it does not
mortal burrow
ight ty
vocal pollen
killed Thaemine right before maint for them
Deathboi in the official disc mentioned something about T4 chaos dungeons, and them being able to track that and refund shards
but that was also probably static values
idk, we'll see if CM says anything about it
mortal burrow
The books one is big too, I can't see from a coding point how they could return ...
if it's only 12-15 on avg that's like 10k per person depending on how unlucky/lucky you ere
real basin
i pitied like 4 items in there, so a lot for me
mortal burrow
if you pittied every piece tho that would be around 25k
remote quiver
The hellfire book situation is crazy. 2-2.5k per book armor, and they are huge for honign to 1660, making chance from 10 to 20%. I mean I pitied goign to 1620 12% chance clicks over and over, it could honestly destroy you if you go bookless hekllfire to 1660
Not goign to fall for it and fomo get them, just patience
remote quiver
Not like you are getting into Aegis outside of the rare group that wants one Mokoko so no rush
real basin
honestly, wish they'd retroactively make all those express event books refund 20% up to 1620
a lot of people complaining about this event like I was about the last event
mortal burrow
honestly, wish they'd retroactively make all those express event books refund 20...
at one point they did (?)
But i forget if that was a to 1580 express with event books after
or 1620
It was the one before ignite
this event
remote quiver
I pitied two pieces, with full books
My 1585 to 1620 was a nightmare, about 5-6 pities, quite a few 80%'ers, one lucky one tap, and a couople 40-50%ers. It messed me up big time because I thought I had so many blue stones for AH, but all that bad 12% luck just made them vanish. I used all my saved event stones too ,I had A LOT.
versed ruin
got home, took a shower, ordered a burrito, sat down launched LOA, in all red "In Maintenance", >.>, which one of you made a exploit that needed a quick patch
vocal pollen
nobodoy, they're just fixing things broke w/ the 18 hour maint
at least, nothing there really looks exploitable
mostly fixing things
real basin
there's a broken awakening, kinda makes that class unplayable, not really but eh
vocal pollen
Brel HM hp is the only potentially abusable thing, if it was too low
versed ruin
welp time to play marvel rivals i guess
vocal pollen
for the 5 scouter players in NA 😏
midnight marlin
Brel HM hp is the only potentially abusable thing, if it was too low
hell mode, not act 3
vocal pollen
HM = hell mode?
remote quiver
It is nice the pass gives auto full 70 quality. With the solo mode stones, event shop and express stones , outside of HORRIBLE luck, your'e quality is atleast not a big issue
mortal burrow
there's a broken awakening, kinda makes that class unplayable, not really but eh
I wouldn't say unplayable
midnight marlin
hm can be read as hard mode
mortal burrow
they still ahve a diff hyper awakening
if it was t skill (like last time I think) then gg
dense canyon
I pitied two pieces, with full books
It took me 5 hours total to go from 1585 to 1620 
Pittied around 4 different pieces multiple times
mortal burrow
yeah like time AT lost their t skill
vocal pollen
I'm going slow, cause no mats really saved up, or boxes
mortal burrow
kekw
dense canyon
Had to do tower
And buy shards for 200k from AH
Total cost was around 550~ k
To get to 1640
vocal pollen
I'm "almost" 1610 .-.
dense canyon
Doing tower was the meh part. But considering I need RL too, it was the time to do it, anyway
remote quiver
Don't worry, no rush outside of the odd group wanting a mokoko y ou won't be getting into any non solo raids anyway. You're doing well, let the T3 fomoing inflation die down which it will
vocal pollen
oh I know, i'm under the mentality that it's a month+ long event anyway
remote quiver
Even if you are there's no rush
vocal pollen
I don't intend to raid, just boosting things to boost things
dense canyon
Idk if you will be able to join a normal raid in PF
remote quiver
the moko army will be treaming into 1640 soon but :d
vocal pollen
anxiety too severe so I just do solo stuff, and guardians as a group
dense canyon
The thing is
remote quiver
So yeah, you could enjoy 1-2 weeks of being MVP mokoko it wont last long, not enough to fomoing spend gold on non bound mats though
tulip charm
yeah like time AT lost their t skill
3rd time is the charm, next patch they gonna delete both awakening and t skill
because why not
remote quiver
Yeah, the T and hyper awakening feels like bloat, but it's not going away
vocal pollen
I had moko last event, but didn't even know that there was an event going on, so didn't step into a single raid
😂
dense canyon
remote quiver
I want to try mokoko to aegir but unless I spent 200k+ on hellfire books not happening
dense canyon
No point to rush that unless you are heavy on mats
Sit on 1640 for a while and you will get to 1660 in no time
Especially now
Bcs of express rates
remote quiver
technically I have enoguh t4 mats, but that would be honing @ 10%. I need 12 hones @ 10%, I would have to hit average, the books make it 20% which is just too huge to ignore
and goign to 1620, I pitied plenty of 12% ers, so my faith is gone lol
and there are not 1640-1660 buffs so pitying is basically a death sentence for mats
and gold
astral ermine
they are drip feeding 11-14 books but it can be relied on to get more. Doesn't matter if you get all your alts to 1660 cause no use for them then
dense canyon
Wait, what honing buffs are there for 1640-1660?
dense canyon
remote quiver
none, just a couple books
dense canyon
remote quiver
so the hellfire books play a huge roll, but 2.5k+ each for armor and 3.5k for weapon
astral ermine
also random question for people on wishful embers during anniversary, did the books suddenly one day not stack with each other and create a 2nd stack?
mortal burrow
and goign to 1620, I pitied plenty of 12% ers, so my faith is gone lol
i mean tho for +11 and +20, it doesn't just stop at 10% tho
remote quiver
I bought out the event guardian and mokoko ones, but it's liek mayeb enough to do 1 piece
mortal burrow
it keeps going up
remote quiver
Slowly, 10% base ofc I meant
mortal burrow
the real problem for me imo is +13, +14
that shit is insane 😠
double the cost of +11 +12
remote quiver
I remember when I did the +12 push for Brel gear, it was fine cause the books were decently priced EVEN during brel when it was fresh. so you hone @ 20% and its decently smooth
vocal pollen
my artist is a couple hones from 1660, but just stopped cause got too expensive
remote quiver
Gari that's a lto of self control 😄
astral ermine
I remember when a gear reset with a new leapstone would drop it back down to 3 per and a few hundred red/blue stones. Weapon started at like 1300 reds per attempt
remote quiver
my artist is a couple hones from 1660, but just stopped cause got too expensive
I am 1650 with "calculator" average mats in stock for push +10-12 to hti 1660 BUT without books man, that can go south so fast. The only thing is I am thinking is the gold cost worth getting ahead of mokos for Aegir, or should I just accept no Aegir and save my gold
I mean to be honest if the books where like 1k and under I'd just eat the cost, but 2.5-4k is just too extreme
as F2P
astral ermine
1660 is essentially aiming for 110 and 120 evolution points from aegir gear. That's a boost but not as significant as 1680 with ancient accessories
remote quiver
So just sit @ 1650 and take it easy?
vocal pollen
normal suggestion would be just camp at 1640 😛
remote quiver
becaus emy thinking was I could get into a mokoko group if I hit 1660 for aeguis and the new anc gear
mortal burrow
I mean to be honest if the books where like 1k and under I'd just eat the cost, ...
the armor books aren't jutisfied until like 680 gold for +11 and 751 for +12
vocal pollen
unless you intend to go farther
mortal burrow
wep is justified around 1.1k
remote quiver
the armor books aren't jutisfied until like 680 gold for +11 and 751 for +12
Yeah, I would have to farm more t4 to comepnsate going past average luck then with no books
mortal burrow
oh wait
actually
i depends whether or not you buy mats
if you buy mats then the jutisfied price increases
remote quiver
I have enough T4 mats to 10-12 with a bit of bad luck IF I had books, without its rough
real basin
you can calculate how much a book saves you and that'll tell you what price you should buy them at
remote quiver
maxroll?
astral ermine
current event lasts 2 months i believe, so if you don't have the books to hit +14 by then you will be looking at next event vendor reload anyways
remote quiver
So that's saying it's NOT worth getting hte books?
mortal burrow
you could also wait for female pally event which is in the summer to get more books
mortal burrow
So that's saying it's NOT worth getting hte books?
if the prices aren't less than that value
remote quiver
Ah, yeah they are way off. No books for me then, thank you for the calc 🙂
mortal burrow
i mean tho the event honing books technically cost you nothing 🤷
remote quiver
yeah you dont get many, I have them all bought
vocal pollen
that's what I do
remote quiver
mm
vocal pollen
and just slowly build up peoples ilvls over time
remote quiver
Yeah my only issue was getting to aegir early may get me into mokoko groups quickly since most wont be there
mortal burrow
mm
maybe do some saving, like 10% of my gold a week can go into honing
save the rest
for gems, books, etc
something that you choose
vocal pollen
don't fomo the mokoko
mortal burrow
^
vocal pollen
you'll still get plenty of tokens from behemoth, echidna, thaemine
remote quiver
Doesn't Aegir give you ancient T4 gear but?
mortal burrow
like save some gold for "rng" progression, and save some other gold for progression that's guaranteed
yes
you get like 4 evo points per armor piece you get to ancient
remote quiver
because outside of a mokoko group there' sno way I get into an aegir cause of transdeednce, elixir level setc
mortal burrow
normal aegir is literally free
dense canyon
I am 1650 with "calculator" average mats in stock for push +10-12 to hti 1660 BU...
1660 is a "safe" spot tbf
With aegir
mortal burrow
they'll take you just b/c you're a mokoko leaf
dense canyon
Yea
mortal burrow
1 dead doesn't hurt the group at all if they're doing the damage they're supposed to be
dense canyon
because outside of a mokoko group there' sno way I get into an aegir cause of tr...
Elixirs are fairly easy
remote quiver
how many players is Aegir again?
real basin
aegir hm for ancient accs and then normal brel for bracelet right?
vocal pollen
8
mortal burrow
like my aero's trixion is 40m at 1640 which is WAY more than enough for aegir
vocal pollen
think Behemoth is the only raid that's 16
mortal burrow
ye behe's 16
(fk behe >:()
well at least before the update
now should be free w/ ark passive
astral ermine
there was a couple 4 dungeons back in T3 but they haven't show any signs of dropping to that
remote quiver
I got into a bethtmoth Moko group, would have been zero chances without
remote quiver
i still watched a video on it though
mortal burrow
b/c you're a mokoko
remote quiver
Aegir moko hype won't die down soon you thnk?
mortal burrow
and in nm raids, people can die and people still can be fine
the dps is VERY lenient
especially now
astral ermine
mokoko desirability lasts the whole event, as long as you have the leaf that won't change
mortal burrow
but yeah, take it to your advantage
remote quiver
yeah that 1650 is such a deadspot
remote quiver
yeah
mortal burrow
and see the mechanics and stuff that you otherwise would not see
and learn from them
remote quiver
I learned the solo raids, I did those, like echnidia, thaemine, garden
real basin
they need to re-issue mokoko buffs to everyone without a character 1670+
remote quiver
I agree
vocal pollen
that'd even apply to me
astral ermine
if you haven't cleared brel2 NM everyone should have it, this 60 day gap requirement does not help those who are behind
and frankly the express event needed a bit more to get people over the 1600-1620 hump too, cause they are still behind
remote quiver
I ran out of blue stones and I had a huge roster saved up
but I also had really bad lucky with my 1620 push
thats with books too
at least the books are reasonably priced
for 1620 push
real basin
I had a ton of stones saved up in bags, 2 pieces left to AH, I should run out of T3 shards as well
remote quiver
I had a ton of stones saved up in bags, 2 pieces left to AH, I should run out of...
My main still ended up with 2mill shads left, felt so bad lol thats with +10 Ah
astral ermine
decay books have been on events for awhile now, but we have gotten more than a few passes since T4 came out so T3 shard bags are way down and that's why they are priced so high on the market
remote quiver
but its not worth 10-20 AH in T3 if you have to buy all the leaps/fusions/stones so I converted
real basin
I should've saved the 80 bags I sold until like today, they just kept going up lmao
remote quiver
LOL yeah, I honestly didnt think they woudl go that high, they normally didnt in the past, shot to 2k+ for them, I sold a bunch for 800-1.2k earlier in the week
real basin
I thought for sure 1200 would be the cap but no
astral ermine
the chaos gate limitations feed into that demand structure. Hopefully female paladin will not have to deal with that in a few months
remote quiver
I have so many roster bound shards bags as well, for me the issue is always fusions and stones, never leaps/shards. But for some without a lot of roster saving leaps/shards are issue if you come in with nothing saved
real basin
astral ermine
they did it on ez event guardian night too
remote quiver
I am just hoping its up before reset, so I can do the daily CD and sell the bags
I havent done that for the day, only got hoem recently
My only regret was maybe I should have T3 20'd the weapon, since T4 weapon stones are beyodn outrageous, 35g/e
in AH
astral ermine
gold-wise that would be a complete RNG to save money without books
remote quiver
I would have had to fully buy t3 red stones but I could have depleted all my roster mats to make it - but then my alts would have zero mats at all
so i decided not to
real basin
I don't think the mats for AH will be an issue unless you're trying to push ilvl quickly, as you get more chars in T4 you'll stack those up quickly over time
the big issue is abidos price diff
and you can't get them from solo shop, so that's just expense
remote quiver
Yeah, have a second char in T4 woudl really help,. but I am not doing that outside an event
like right now lots of alts ~1580 so red stone t3 production is decent
astral ermine
right now there is not a huge difference in chaos/guardian returns between 1640 and 1680. Haven't seen higher KR numbers yet though
remote quiver
yeah abidos hurts, my SH farm shows abidos needs a rare relic and I dont get those
Prime Oreha free farm mats come way easier
astral ermine
T4 gathering is entirely about those blues. You will get far more white/green mats
real basin
oh that's the old one, let me find the new one
astral ermine
I assume KR has 1700 and maybe 1720?
remote quiver
T4 gathering is entirely about those blues. You will get far more white/green m...
I am going to have to start using all my saved lifeskill essences etc and do some t4 non SH farming then
sacred scarab
guys. just upgrade what will make u happy. its a game. leave some hard calc about efficiency for real life. and in game just do what will make u u happy. if u want 25 weapon go for it , even if ur alts will take a big toll...
remote quiver
I hate relic farming but lol
real basin
astral ermine
i swear that ancient bracelet rate is worse than 0.2
astral ermine
NAE was similar to them for patch, NAW was odd one out
F5 has them in maint again
says all up after refresh now
remote quiver
guys. just upgrade what will make u happy. its a game. leave some hard calc abou...
if I had known glows would be savable, way back in brel I would habve push my weapon 2 more to get that white/gold combo glow, its too expensive now to ever do that again though
astral ermine
lagamestatus says they are up
remote quiver
but back then you only had a glow if you weapon was that level
+23ing then would have been way easier
astral ermine
there will always be more glows in the future higher and higher too
real basin
but you can take these averages and calculate how much more a char will earn you going from 1640->1660 and how long it'll take to pay it back
remote quiver
I think it was 23 or 24, for the white+gold glow and 25 for for the full gold
astral ermine
well get in and finish those dailies now
real basin
NAW is up
vital garnet
is their any compensation for not getting the 20% from the books?
astral ermine
probably will arrive when they fix the 7k bound gold too, i only see the 1x potion+rest for the patch
spark galleon
Servers up
turbid oriole
Just to go down in an hour
narrow escarp
returning player from la, any general advice?
astral ermine
if you have the mokoko leaf make use of it to get in groups and learn the raids while you can
free hall pass to not get gatekept for 3 months
narrow escarp
I do - would people be alright accepting a mokoko?
astral ermine
you get some event tokens as does everyone else in the raid, so they are more than willing to take and carry. Some are even willing to teach
turbid oriole
I do - would people be alright accepting a mokoko?
Yes you're a commodity
jolly island
I almost used 150k gold for honing, and only got like 8800 gold refund, 7000 from the missing and 1800 only from honign with books, that doesnt sound right
mystic basin
when did they give refund s
astral ermine
did you click last reward for express to get 30k gold back
jolly island
o wait no im probably misunderstanding i remember i did thaemine solo, so its probably for that lol my bad
astral ermine
but 150k does sound like how much 1600-1620 can cost
jolly island
i was remembering i am out of bound gold
and saw got 8800 and forgot i did thaemine earlier
mystic basin
150k is relatively cheap for 1620
jolly island
<a:modCheck:863501167606104104> when did they give refund s
from the maintenance patch notes, honing with event books should refund 20%, i remember honing before maintenance i got no refund but now i saw some refunds after maintenance, i was thinking they will give up whats already used but doesnt seem like it
astral ermine
they resolved the issue which means that works now, but will see if they can track and refund from before
jolly island
yah cause thats probably easy 20k gold for me and maybe lots of shards, im out of shards, still have to hone all armor from 18 to 19 befoer i got to 1620 so thats probably another 30-50k? gold or less
wind dagger
Manual refund?
swift tree
I mean if they were to refund used honing books for this event
real basin
I'm 26% of the way to getting the mount
turbid oriole
https://tenor.com/view/duck-dnd-aarakocra-duck-with-legs-get-real-gif-21842728
Perry
split belfry
Anyone else getting stuck in loading screen and game crashing when doing "Highland of the Final Battle" in North Kurzan?
Ive had to write a support to get my character unstuck and I tried doing it again today and same bug happened
astral ermine
i was able to do it fine 24 hours ago for my wildsoul, with an AMD card
split belfry
its weird, Ive never had this issue before, ran that dungeon on 6 characters already when it first came out
swift tree
Ive had to write a support to get my character unstuck and I tried doing it agai...
were you inside the volcano? I've had the game crash a few times inside it
split belfry
were you inside the volcano? I've had the game crash a few times inside it
Noo, its the dungeon entrace right besides the ladder in Abidos Garrison. Every time I try to enter it, it gets stuck in loading and crashes the game. And keeps doing it every time I log back onto that character. Only way out was to write a support to relocate me out of it. But like I said I tried again today and its stuck again
midnight marlin
Anyone else getting stuck in loading screen and game crashing when doing "Highla...
have you tried verifying files
charred void
verify files after every patch
split belfry
ill try right now
real basin
I'm up to 2/4 without any issues yet
swift tree
o.o
swift tree
Noo, its the dungeon entrace right besides the ladder in Abidos Garrison. Every ...
sounds like corrupt game files
swift tree
I'm up to 2/4 without any issues yet
get any good cards yet?
real basin
nope
this card xp would've been nice earlier before I went around the world to get my los30 though lmao
if I knew about it i'd have just done NK
real basin
ok, I finished it without any problems
turbid oriole
have you tried verifying files
Did you beat mhw yet
midnight marlin
yes
safe lark
midnight marlin
it took me 3 hours to find out how to not crash on startup
swift tree
it took me 3 hours to find out how to not crash on startup
Successfully launch game = MHW complete
charred void
they took my pepega spacebar 
real basin
did they change kenuart fortress? I got 7 selection chests from it, so you only gotta run it once ever now?
charred void
they did
turbid oriole
it took me 3 hours to find out how to not crash on startup
What GPU u have
turbid oriole
they took my pepega spacebar <:Smadge:1053832505029034044>
What
charred void
gunlancer spacebar not reversed anymore
i mean was probably since ark passive like that but i "just got it" on the 1540
swift tree
they took my pepega spacebar <:Smadge:1053832505029034044>
FREEDOM
midnight marlin
i mean was probably since ark passive like that but i "just got it" on the 1540
nah, they just changed it with this balance patch
swift tree
did they change kenuart fortress? I got 7 selection chests from it, so you only ...
Yes
midnight marlin
still needed side node before
midnight marlin
What GPU u have
6700 xt
charred void
gunlancer enjoyers with 3 years of muscle memory now in shambles since they dodge in the wrong direction(again)
midnight marlin
tf is mfg
turbid oriole
Manufacturer
midnight marlin
Manufacturer
asrock
turbid oriole
What temps
midnight marlin
no
turbid oriole
I remember that guy
midnight marlin
its been hovering 67-68
turbid oriole
Wasnt he fr*nch
ivory perch
I hope they will also put event token on dailies
midnight marlin
fk the fr*nch
ivory perch
Why?
turbid oriole
They should give event feast and t3 mats
charred void
this guardian event was like that since they introduced it(3 years for us)
ivory perch
they prob giving us nice surprise
turbid oriole
Why?
It's a terrible event they just copy pasted
Hey we're gonna remove old shit like challenge gr/abyss
Then fucking go ahead with this shitty event gr that hasn't even been refreshed for t4
charred void
they didnt even bother to implement it into alt+Q
ivory perch
I hope they don't
Ye thats why it will be good if they put the token on dailies so we can avoid this
charred void
they wont do it
midnight marlin
they didnt even bother to implement it into alt+Q
semicolon
charred void
turbid oriole
Ye thats why it will be good if they put the token on dailies so we can avoid th...
Nah keep it shit so people complain and we get t4 refresh
ivory perch
Mb more shards in the event chests as well
fathom trellis
Guys is there a way to matchmake Event guardians?
swift tree
This might be a bit unpopular opinon but nice part of AP now is you don't need to replace every single piece of fcking gear to switch class specs
swift tree
Guys is there a way to matchmake Event guardians?
go to event spot on map
fathom trellis
only like that?
charred void
fathom trellis
and where to press matchmake
swift tree
https://discord.com/channels/889990467180175440/1344477474234433607/134447747423...
I'm doing my part, check what I wrote
turbid oriole
and where to press matchmake
Go to the npc
charred void
failed 8x 50% tripod transfers
swift tree
and where to press matchmake
charred void
swift tree
failed 8x 50% tripod transfers
thoughts on switching ratter db to RE?
vocal pollen
do you know if the 16-19 said taht too
they patched it in 😼
turbid oriole
thoughts on switching ratter db to RE?
Ask ishy
swift tree
and no idea about t4 db
this is 1580 rat
charred void
my surge highlight was probably hitting 36m surge at 1415 first oreha dungeon boss
which was like 2,5 years ago
swift tree
fck it, RE because missing surge is so ass for solo clears
charred void
and yes solo surge sucks ass since you only get white number
swift tree
ye
charred void
thats why db is on page 5
rose crater
why are people still asking for 1660 in behe? i honestly dont understand the point
broken lava
Aegir pieces
charred void
because they forgot how to play it properly and just want to skip tornados
keen copper
because 1640s do 20m dps
rose crater
a full trans /elixer 1640 ark passive char is overkill lmao
keen copper
LOL
charred void
yes, try explaining that to the baboons in the community
rose crater
and if u really wanna play it safe, ask for title and its more or less a 100% clear xd
keen copper
title
charred void
keen copper
means fuck all
like how are we 3 years into the game
and people still think titles are meaningful 
rose crater
its not 100% for syre but, it does help a little
rose crater
oh wow
charred void
what are you yapping again about
rose crater
their incometence has no limits xd
wicked blade
About incompetence.
charred void
3h is short if you compare it to 18h
thorn basin
it was less than 2 anyways
real basin
it went down for 1.5 h
wicked blade
3h is short if you compare it to 18h
Shut up
rugged mesa
they patched it in 😼
is it really refund now? before there were text but its not refund right?
wicked blade
I don't tollerate shit companies
keen copper
yet
charred void
then uninstall the game
hidden jay
hidden jay
You mad bro
thorn basin
hidden jay
Mh wilds 
swift tree
that maintenance is over
swift tree
hidden jay
That's white, which heathen is calling that cute cream
vocal pollen
is it really refund now? before there were text but its not refund right?
yeah I honed and got a refund just 5 mins ago
wicked blade
That's white, which heathen is calling that cute cream
meager hill
I wonder if they'll refund people's gold and such for those that honed before the bug was fixed
charred void
no they give them negative gold instead
meager hill
wicked blade
I wonder if they'll refund people's gold and such for those that honed before th...
I doubt it
Take your 5 feathers as an appology
wind dagger
wicked blade
My luck must've been insane because I didn't even notice book bugs 
Wonder how low my cost would've been if there was not a bug
thorn basin
up to 20%
wicked blade
turbid oriole
<a:OMEGADANCE:468325096050786314>
Why's your om so slow
wicked blade
That is like 20k gold
turbid oriole
wicked blade
low nebula
What in the goofy ass
best spacebar ever
thorn basin
didn't you just recently got one tho 
wicked blade
didn't you just recently got one tho <:Stare:1107023325861007502>
I need more sir, I'm poor now
wicked blade
in which direction?
Higher then intended 
real basin
T4 tower when?
real basin
just need a sup
meager hill
welcome to classes that are unplayable without a good support
enjoy your mana shackles
low nebula
any eu kittens to kill my sonavels?
charred void
sure, join my lobby with pw:070
meager hill
any eu kittens to kill my sonavels?
only if you kill my sonavels after 
meager hill
actually it's only one, forgot the rest moved on to frog
quaint lagoon
Me doing island
meager hill
relateable
low nebula
@meager hill tis u?
meager hill
ye
meager hill
pvp 
low nebula
pvp is too hard
real basin
hrmm if you push akkan in g3 solo to 1 hp right off the bat and then do all the mechs, you can't use wei to end the fight, gotta do the destruction check 
low nebula
hrmm if you push akkan in g3 solo to 1 hp right off the bat and then do all the ...
destr check is free in solo
just use ninav
weak whale
i think not worth to advance honing in t3 now right ?
with these prices ?
wicked blade
real basin
or if you swipe
weak whale
Unless you have shards and leaps
t3 ? no dont have
quaint lagoon
Then nope
low nebula
wtf is this?
low nebula
they added packs to all raids?
quaint lagoon
will they merge t2/t3 into t4?
?
wicked blade
low nebula
nice goldge
quaint osprey
?
why is it not worth honing in t3 rn then? i will never get to t4 if i dont hone no?
quaint lagoon
10k for rotten akkan or valicio
quaint lagoon
why is it not worth honing in t3 rn then? i will never get to t4 if i dont hone ...
We are talking about a different system
That is called advance honing
Not regular honing
quaint osprey
ah
wintry scroll
do we only get 3 tier 4 armors from the dungeon in north kurzan? i have to craft the other 3?
wintry scroll
hmm how do i get the rest of the tier 4 armors then
quaint lagoon
This on your event character
real basin
abidos operation so much better than chaos gate wtf
jade fossil
Wait did they remove gunlance's back hop?
dim verge
hmm how do i get the rest of the tier 4 armors then
Just run it 10 times
They will eventually drop