#lost-ark-discussions
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i bought t4 blues 
yea but u stink lol


1? they should add 100
we barely even get a single purple bag at the moment for tier 4
no shot they add 100 purples 
even me saying 1 is making their market team tremble
can always 
We live to
in lost ark
Solo shop give 30k tier 3 shards. Guild shop could at least match that
the only thing they will rebalance in this game is their nuts on your forehead, but thats about it
us when
hot

im right here 
gfn is still dead
relax
mb

i have echis thae and brel technically
I KNOW
let's do some echidnas first and then check how the energy is looking like 
oki i go alt bard

Good joob
I just recharged 100$ in WuWa

Someone take away my credit card
Hand it over

Shut up brokie.
You waited too long
Waited too long?
I sold constantly at 18-20g?



finally prices normalising 
they just need to drop 5-7 gold more and its perfect
3
nah they gotta go 5g like Korea
Oh no
which one
the guy that was applying on his "altroster" 

gimme 3g blues or else 
classic
I hope it goes back to 20g 
arent u normal and just gatekeep anything that says or implies alt roster?

I hope u get banned
At least some tiny money 
For what? Wanting high blue prices?
sorry mate im f2p
mostly ye
i cant upgrade if they cost 20gold
yes
oh ye does anyone here need echidna hm? 
That seems pretty weird but you know, you do you.
i want echidna not her raid

because its a really fucking stupid take
I was lower prices
fuck those 1-2 char andies

frfr

game should be focused at no lifing andies
You feel this strongly about people that bus also and want to make gold that way?
bussing was fine when only good players could bus
yes, I already stated my opinion a long atime ago
not gonna repeat myself at every take
that never happened
it did
mb i enjoy it 
Good for you
I still want 20g blue prices, if you don't want it, that's on you 
and you're stupid
who tf cares about orehargos
thats my take
just needed a slightly overgeared char
@wicked blade
this one actually sold
That's not relevant really, but good for you
Ark Passive and Hyper Arts powercrept every raid into oblivion, u dont need to even be a half decent player to do it now
Ha, so funny
Good joke.
Thank u

i have a job tho

Nah that's actually funny
Since you're so good at the game you don't need help with Behemoth I assume then 
You kinda did 
How many T4 characters do u have
it is, you made a stupid ass take that you know is wrong but since it benefits you (even though it fucks over most of the community), and I called you stupid for it. you know, because its fucking stupid like you

damn SSJ4 being canonized does things
That's a lot of toxicity just because you don't want higher blue cost and I want high blue cost, you could have said "I disagree" not sure why you gotta make it into such a personal topic for no reasons 
hope you have 2hours queue
@queen grail I gonna need carry Behemoth on my DB when she gets to 1640... God forbit people allowing someone to access Behemoth to unlock transc

Not relevant to the talk at all 

because you've been saying the same thing every day for the past week
so yes. its really fucking annoying
Ok, then, ignore it / block / mute / whatever, I see dumb takes here constantly too that I just tune out, you can do it
I believe in you.
Earth is flat

so is the moon
So is my will to live when I see AH cost
So It's tomorrow you're going Brell hard ye? or was it today? @burnt tree
tomorrow
Alright 
nah, would rather call out dumb takes like I do with everyone 
i played bad
Really? XD
That is regular thing at this point
time to lock in you noodle 
So, want me to save my Artist if not I'll be going today 
yea my friend showed me, sadly I don't have access to that discord myself xD
Same xD
but yea apparently ppl are being banned for botting chaos and stuff
thats a badge of honor
Hahahhaha
oh you mean that
only took 2,5 years
There's an easy fix to this, don't bot 
ppl so lazy they even bot t4 chaos which is done instantly
well, when they have 50 alt rosters farming shit each day..
But that means putting in the time and not bot / rmt / cheat
How can you expect these people to do that It's so hard

tbf some people doesnt have infinite time
happens every world boss since they got added love it
its cute

@neon cedar Stinky

True, and then you just don't get the rewards. Edit: I assume the guy emoting is a botter,
feelsbad mister clown.
playing on offline mode, I see you.
then you still dont bot.
NA habits, I was only on for field boss
Wait, why NA habits?
You hiding away in NA?
ye ppl that doesnt have time should just not play the game
Just when Im on for 5 mins so I dont get heckled for stuff
money
@cunning mesa 
but awak in auction
sf 
π«‘ go for it
I got some spending money last night
But it has dissapeared already
Gold is but a fleeting illusion
holy whole group of 5, thats a lot of friends
you're hella sus ngl
wtf but this was normal? π
don't bully yumi
@queen grail happy? 
1 girl 4 guys?
π nonono, someone said they had 5 friends
5 guys and her 

feelsbrokeman
you dug your hole too deep, now no one believes you anymore when youre not coomer for a second
@cunning mesa Yay
after posting it for a week on market It finally sold 
pls not this again
is furryloli good at chaos?
ive done nothing to deserve this

yeah you can spam one skill
i had to reread lol
Everyone is PL/PB
Surely this is a clean run.
surely π
pathfinder?
only 4 extra, but still, I like great success
why does it say pathfinder
ooh
when we get toddler difficulty
i mean if a 1690 joins your normal run its already sus
yea
i find g2 to be easier
wait shouldn't g1 always be easier than g2
kinda based name
With scrolls and jederico g1 is very lenient
also very easy to die if u dont know patterns
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@cunning mesa why did everyone stop hitting the stagger in that wipe
nomnom
i was hitting then saw everyone stop
and i got super confused
they just stopped 
way more than that
Echidna?@thorn basin
its a good engraving

Maybe wrong mirror? 
was almost like they had a stroke midstagger
Imagine me using those cheap engravings

And not playing classes that need 100k+ ones
has to be that 
do i gamba
how about you log 
Ye, I knew he was making one, haven't seen it.
Oh right, I need to gamba aswell
I swear to god @wintry depot Some people
damage like candy.
i only have 60-70 pots left
on your bard for the last echidna 
Wtf
oh yeah, 1s was looking for sellable stuff
nice haegir
They nom nomed all the damage they culd
I can see that
But why

bad at dodging damage.
@cunning mesa thaemine might be tomorrow angle
my energy is not existing
i want ap 
dw
i wanna prog more brel
stream? 
Also, G1 has a lot of damage that's "hard to dodge" if other people fail, like not moving out with egg or the target when he throws the wepons @wicked blade
my pc barely handles itself XD

get a new one 
Skill issue
working on it 
was fine, we had 1 min left with 2 death's 
i mean, i can try streaming it



price of scrolls went up, ew
make them yourself
Bro I wanna watch while I make dinner
good news is that you dont need scrolls in nm
you can get frozen once
yeah but not twice
my dps love eating dmg
hm without scrolls was the real fun 
didnt try hm without scrolls
it was a bit aids I'd say
i'd assume its fine if u have high destruction party
well there's only so much you can destroy 
well yeah but you can't really pass the last phase if it has perma 30% dr unless its a whale party
before nerf that is
heard ppl got frozen on purpose before entering last arena though, guess thats basically a flame scroll
thats me when i dont lag LMAO
just don't lag, ez πΌ
gari has a point
Thank fuck i did all my raids yesterday i think i got the flu 
Yeah itβs going around it seems
Bruh, 2 people insta died on G in p3 how.
you had to jinx it
Behe?
No, brell.
i did great at least 
P3?
GFN still down?@mystic basin
if i could play
jst buy a normal PC like everyone else
small treat for me

ive been playing rivals
P1 - First phase on top with Prokel.
P2 - Second phase underground no Prokel with 50/100 Meter mech.
P3 - Third phase different meter mech at 100 + Scythe intervals.
P4 - Last and fourth phase - breakable platform and special sideral.
but my tolerace for dogshit teammats can only go so far
Nice, u just need 20 times that for one weapon tap
Ah i see
im not tapping anything though
Game difficult
I watched the scythe guard mech wipe out p2 last week
It was funny
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here we go again
are you in already? i was gonna leech 4 argeos after the mm i just did

hugeeeee
WDYM
yeah they insta accepted
they look juiced
then it's fine nwnw 
how do title holder's still fail 145, wild.
yeah will have to be later or tomorrow
stream where tho 
i mean there's still chances i get kicked for not having ap
after im in LOL
nah dw they wouldn't do that right
ive had it happen before
thats a lot of silver
then they were stinkers anyways
thats your expertise
bully

Happened to me a few times, happens less and less every week
i can do that soon
i have shitters only tho
Oddly enough ever happens in hm yet. Dies in normal lol
You havenβt cleared yet? Idk about normal, but for hm itβs hard for supps, this is the first time Iβve seen a raid thatβs so reliant on a support
how long does that take
She just got to 70
idk like 20 minutes ish
i got to 1670 2 days ago
did a bit of prog yesterday
now i go in again
i made some decent money from those echis
seems like we are stuck at 6/8 π¦
You have supp previlage, but try to load your prog pt with as many 1680s as possible, makes the raid very easy
Itβs not uncommon for the 1680 to 2x the 1670s in damage
i made like 4k 
its full 1680s except me XD first group i saw
better than nothing, right
ye + mats ofc 
the sad thing is it probably works
π
This grp I joined now for G2 everyone has Lv.10 T4 gem's 
lets see if my pc doesnt die, im streaming
yeah wont work xD
xD
ty for trying 
Potato pc.
maybe playable 
rmt
i hear the sound but the video is not moving 
hmmm
didn't fix 
Just get gfn yumi.
Hiw many pulls was that
title: prog
2 pulls: quit
actually, 3 pulls i think
we brought the thing down in 3 pulls, almost to x60
π
idk people are so stinky
tempted to rat somewhere since ive seen everything now
Yeah I saw was pretty close
at least for g1
Just need to not lose as much heat and was probsa clear for the party
you could even tell part of the group is fresh
i mean the problem was people not guarding
and they were doing fine
other than that it was good
Xd
is playing fine while streaming performance wise?
you can stop if it's too stinky 
its fine
i play like that every raid
idk if you notice me barely moving in echi g1
XD
they make worse raids every time performance wise
I mean if it's affecting game play I agree with coffee
Also think your gonna have to do it anyway it's bricked xd
good thing the se went for a smoke

well, this thing boomed

Damn reset pc angle?
wont fix, its the raid π

Oh I thought you were still stuck on loading screen
So you weren't even in the game xd
well, time to wrap it up
im in game, stuck in loading
and now my discord crashed
Rip yummi
well, hopefully they didnt quit

ill get rid of this potato asap
guess no brel until then
kinda sadge bcs i know mechs
i mean it worked better without stream right?
not really
aside from a few frame drops
it was the same
that sucks ass then
no tommy carried me 
or maybe try gfn until you can get a new pc
i feel bad for that group
its 1h sessions if you dont pay
ye was def clearable

g2 is fun 
it seemed very complicated 
wanna see? 

you are in one rn?
no but i can just go
i... dont like the taste of coffee 
Yumi have spoken
here we go again 
btw how did i play there 
its so hard to keep up uptime
with everything thats going on
also have to make sure dps dont get one shot
i mean I'd say fine, you're still learning
there's some patterns that I'd play different 
same
i dont understand half of the normal patterns XD
i always skip that part in the guides
to not saturate my brain
tbf you did kinda prog fast right
since you get to do those a billion times per run
yeah im a fast learner, kinda
as long as i get to do the thing
i think ive done less than 20 pulls total
yesterday's group was much weaker
all 1670s most of them no ap
i mean ye if you had mostly 1680s now the dmg difference is night and day
why is the 1689 in a prog lobby 
maybe helping friends
1690 is HM
since getting unstuck in g2 is probably fair easy
but week 4 prog when you had the ilvl is interesting
or maybe doesnt care about having the clear

Maybe he already cleared on his 6 1740's

so do i go or do i keep looking at this wheel spin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFyn2MWIprw&ab_channel=CubeHub01 this is kinda awesome
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So what's the secret to you staying up all night and grinding 30 ayayas and bards

i mean i think im going to heat a pizza bcs im exhausted XD
i just cant sleep, naturally

time to get gfn bitch.

ill get the pc before this month ends, pinky promise this time XD
wont be a fiasco like last time
Oh man @worldly hawk and I had a field day with Yumi loading time in guardians

just eat the pizza while watching and learning 
I saw this msg like 6 times already.
ok ok
but it only takes 4 mins
but not with pinky promise
idk, its a lie until I saw the new pc.
I seen that message for past 5 months

lmao
reflux or bt zerker gameplay? 

Usually i am the one that start ahead in the raids
my guildmates said "how the fuck are you already in the ws circle"


reflux, i know that cclas at least XD
yep
The fuck
i just had a few problems

boos might just fall over in this lobby 

you dont play nightmare anymore so mana is ok right?
rmt
yesyes mana bing chilling frfr
my pizza is ready, brb 1 sec

quality and all is fine yes?

my average loading is 35-40 secs
i have a good pc
yes pls
just died the most unlucky way in echidna hm g1
i use blast formation, boss lands on me during dmg reflection phase, blast formation brings me to 1 he finishes me off
blame support didnt dr you
@cunning mesa but he just walked out of hyper what can do 
ok but that was super smooth
ye lobby is way overgeared
now the fun begins 

brel nm 


but i missed both hypers how good am i at this game 
that was too easy 
ye it's very chill on reclear ngl
i understood a bit
u sure? 
did you finally clear yumi brel
her pc might be too bad for the raid
got to x120 on third pull then someone quit and my pc crash so here i am
π
Get a better PC

they shouldn't have vote quitted frfr
real lore
net, again, you're rice farming wrong
so tomorrow i can just zoom zoom into the rest of the raids
REAL
that was 1 hour+ for g2 with cracked whales.
i can also join you for nm brel probably
@queen grail Can we get him banned
aly i almost clear g1 

be prepared to deal with a crash or 2
Gotta love people not dodging.
maybe i turn off even vanguard
BRO WHAT THE FUCK

or maybe next week
progging g2 again is a bit stinky
i bet that shit is thr problem

I saved so many people so many times.
smh, I was too nice to the breaker, he got ticket for only 1,1k

AYO! NICE 
someone wanted to quit after 3 pulls in prog
ban those people 
people that don't say gg or anything after 1+ hour in G2 should be kicked in the groin.
1585 farms what exactly
feelsbad.
Why my support doesn't do that

I spent around 1 hour in G2 (I was main reason for wipe once because I saw the time wrong but we already had 1 death) at 145
and every single dps in the grp had 1 or more Lv.10 T4 gem's 
I'm confused.
because most supports only have one thing on their brain, ap ap ap

gotta parse 
next week ap
WHERE AP

we had like 2-3 deaths from people attacking her while they had aura during 100 Meter mech
bro, she's dmg reduction, plzz.
I got ap on my mind
"phantom lords"
Wom shield is still cancer tho
i mean some people just take it too far
Ints meter so damn hard
@cunning mesa are you on your dailies yet 
yep

its bedge angle after im done with them 

same but i have too many left 
I mean, I try to buff as much as I can too,
but when people are 70% hp and I know one bad move from the boss can zero them in one hit I'll shield/heal first.
same, like 10 chars left
We didn't have dps problem's 
the bard in other grp was using womp womp also
i gave a lot of shields 
But how much did u block
Giga.
btw i gave a quick look to ap before going into the raid
Total blocked/damage taken
Is what I use
Nice rmt
the buffs look super juicy
there's a few mana buffs
total blocked is this
doesnt mean shit
Means a lot of fck damage blocked
Meaning, they nom nomed a ton of damage.

sun guardian mvp sf on top
Lies and slander.
It doesnβt sound correct tbh
mvp screen is dogshit
Iβve gotten some silly numbers on that
You wouldn't say that if you saw what my awakening blocked.

But itβs never like accurately translated to meter numbers
i got soem 600+ sun guardian on mvp screen before
do you even have the data?
because thats what we are saying
mvp screen isnt accurate
Like for my first clear I was at 580 some on mvp screen
I mean, It might be accurate for what It's measuring, who knows what It's measuring.
But I only had 12m blocked
exactly our point
And there was like almost 6m taken
I'd assume It's all damage blocked & migitated & total dmg blocked from DmgReduction
So like idk what sun guardian is measuring
Like, Sunsketch = mitigation 
Radiant we know why it is the way it is tho, It's because It's based on team damage in 8 man so It's not going to be accurate.
well yeah

mvp screen is dogshit
ngl iw as playing without bible some weeks ago and it felt so fuckign bad
I'd assume Guardian is "All Mitigated dmg + Shield's" That you contributed, hench why people like Yumi get's it when she's spamming her synergy.
Because she's activly giving "mitigation".
i almost always play without meter 
had it on for a solo brel on my arcana XD
thats ut
it*
meter is really good for improving
I mean, If It's wrong I'd love to see data on it, but that's what makes sense from a logical point of view.
To bad it's against TOS 
It also doesnβt count self shielding and dr
like rmt is aginst tos
But, anyways, I'm finally done with all gold raids for the week
a bit late but here we are.
and ags doesnt give a f
well ban me ig but im not playing without meter anymore
ayo number 2 today
Thereβs like a lot of shit that goes into it prob, but like itβs pretty much a useless number until we know what the formula is
I guess that's because "It's how much you helped others" not yourself, if that's the case.


I'd not call it a useless number still, if you're in Brell G2 with people that don't dodge well and you somehow have 50% on Guardian, you're doing something wonky.
Yea but is it also being compared with the other guy like in radiantβs case, how does it work with like gunlancer and stuff.
we donβt even know if itβs related to tanked number
Are you sure It's being compared same as Radiant?
So if you blocked like 10m but your party still took 10m, it might look really good but you are like giga dropping the ball if that happens
No idea, no way to tell
I swear I've seen people get higher Guardian on supports with Gunlancer's in the grp.
Since the GL will legit eat anything and everything 
In theory if it is mitigation based though
Gl spamming nella should int your guardian number
Since their dr will out prio most support drs
I mean, Nella is a fraction of what a good support mitigate.
Yes but nellas is used during most greed patterns
For example back in hellkas gls would protect the president combo during certain greed patterns for entropy pattern
Which in theory should like delete entropy supports sun guardian percentage
Sure, but during that wouldn't the sup also protect the GL with Mitigation? And their Rhapso/Law is a higher mitigation factor.
But it doesnβt
Nella is 75% and longer
With the tripod they take afaik
Which is same as rhaps/law
starry too
@cunning mesa i might have forgotten that i was on discord
too tired frfr
For normal use people don't take that tripod tho, but I guess for that spesific patterns they do.
you dont need cleanse
im so fried too XD
in most raids
Most blue takes that tripod
ye
we somehow got a buddy
Most red gl doesnβt take nella at all
do you know this guy?
no idea who that is no
So if u see nella itβs usually 75% dr
you talk to him gogo
XDDD ok then its funny af
Then people have changed, before cleanse was the meta, I still run that
but I'm at 60.
nope 
But even then, nella is once per 25-30sec (longer if held for spesific patterns) Meanwhile supports have mitigation each time they AP / Constant shielding + Law/Stary etc spam

are you scared 
Yes but the soak patterns are where most of the blocked comes from
And thatβs the nella timing
I DON'T WANNA TALK TO A WALL MAN
yes
Wall man
sorry caps
I can't speak for that spesific fight, but in overall fights I'd argue It's not like that,
But ye, I mean, the creator's should have gone out ages ago and shown the formula for each thing 
@cunning mesa he be doing soloakkan 
But speaking from a personal "Feeling" point, I notice the difference between a run where people take / don't take a ton of dmg and those fights where I notice they eat a ton of dmg the MVP screen reflects that [If I end up with MVP] 
XD chilling
The reason why a lot of us donβt really go off of it is that sun guardian % doesnβt really seem to reflect what is seen on meter a lot of the time
he has 100k gold, go rizz him up
Oh you ment literally

Like a support with higher shield per taken doesnβt always get the underline
Highest I've reached was in Kaya back pre-nerf where I got like 540%+ and I remember that because the fight enraged, the people were "juiced" and had Zero damage but was standing in any and all pattern's so I had to end up just focusing shield/mitigate over AP buffing as primary focus if not they just crumbled and died 
nioh
Which doesnβt make too much sense
Yea, but meter only account for "Shield/Absorb" Not the mitigation on various tools no?
I got 3k
share?
Yes but if the shielding gap is enough, the dr gap doesnβt really make sense
Esp for the runs where itβs both the same support
Like you sometimes see runs where the 7m blocked 4m taken support beats out the 6m blocked 2m taken support
Which like
???
Maybe the dr is just being underestimated? Sunsketch is 35% Stary 75%
You would take 3 k away from the poor
The second support did a lot better at preventing damage

when you have people take too much dmg vs gamers
nono 50/50 split 
your gonna share your 50%with me aswell right
that might be problem 
Say yes, take the 1.5k then say you have no money
i have no money
wait, am I reading wrong? 7 mil blocked is more than 6mil blocked no? Yes, the other side took more overall but most likely they also ate more and then passive DR's from skills kicks in and makes him the "better" overall guardian no?

No because p1 guy blocked a way lower percentage of the damage reaching his team
So if sun guardian was actually taking into account the amount of damage your guy would have taken
P2 sup blows them out of the water
@cunning mesa go steal that guys pc his stream looks better
So like if your party took 6m damage but you have 6m blocked while the other party took 3m with 5m blocked
π
P1 support was hard griefing
Xd

WE HAVE ANOTHER FRIEND
Usually in g2 itβs around 2-3x blocked to taken for good supports afaik but like the sun guardian % on mvp is all over the place
Well, we don't really know how it works, the way I've always viewed it is "This is the amount of damage you should have taken but got blocked"
So If over the course of the game I take 2 million damage but only 500k of that reach my hp pool then I blocked 1,5 mil of that and that's the number in %
just as a team and total dmg taken / blocked with mitigation etc.
Whaaat? U don't like 43s loading time?

π people will see others in a vc and just come do their thing
tbf it's a public discord 
i still find it so funny
i mean i know what you mean i wouldn't do it either 
how much is left 
please get one without this cringe rgb garbage
rgb is a must
i was planning to cheapo on the case
I have red fans
And that is it
WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE
Nah, too much rgb is garbage
specially since i spend 20 hours per day on the pc
can we make a cult?
















