lost-ark-discussions

[thorny olive]

Just check community guide for build

[swift tree]

pretty good idea on first 2 trees, only one is leap I'd be unsure about

[thorny olive]

Ya

Well, some of leap is up to preference

Remember engravings!

[final gale]

Logging or Cubes

[halcyon hinge]

when will new class be released guys?

[fervent ibex]

2-3 weeks

[swift tree]

[thorny olive]

Yay

[outer thistle]

19 or 26 feb

[wicked blade]

Back into blue gold

2 lvl 7 gems and back to 0

[wicked blade]

I wonder how much 1600-1660 gonna cost

[faint grove]

A lot

[wicked blade]

Meh

Can"t be more then 500k

[mystic basin]

1640 to 1660 is 300-400k

what are you smoking

[keen copper]

honing is free

[deft hearth]

just one tap everything

ez

[keen copper]

that guy gets it

@mystic basin are you 1700 yet

[low nebula]

get side node for auto brand on aura, good qol

[neon cedar]

Its free is you fund me

[low nebula]

and me!

[neon cedar]

Send all funds my way for distribution

[mystic basin]

im no whale sir

[low nebula]

The flow looks good

[mystic basin]

wait

when does invicible s3 release

[midnight marlin]

tomorrow

[mystic basin]

its yesterday

it says 6th

[midnight marlin]

im in the future

[swift tree]

yeah gonna when I get back on

[high fog]

tbh im not sure how good the hyper awakening cooldown thing is

it feels like giga situational

i kinda think transcendent power is just more value most of the time

unless you are specifically trying to hit a specific awakening window

that happens to line up

[stark sky]

it is not useful

[swift tree]

26th as per Tier 3 removal notice

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/793483707838234664.gif?size=48

[wind dagger]

[bitter lichen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1289006440693895209/wahoocat.gif

[real basin]

my noob alt is cooking, 94 quality on weapon in 3 free taps

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-arrive-gif-25229198

[swift tree]

tapped 100 w/ 120 character locked stones leftover

[real basin]

rip, too bad you can't do anything with them

[tulip charm]

almost free

with bounds

[earnest girder]

And mine just couldnt go higher than 59% on any armor pieces for 45 stones... For fk sake !

[swift tree]

spoilered because it's Kazeros Act 3 but "They're the same picture"

[charred void]

ayo is this skyrim dlc

[wicked blade]

Good to know, I'm stacked on those

[worldly hawk]

mf calls 1million gold free

[low nebula]

its not good
it gives you remaining cd back, and only once
so its situational and shit, other option is situational and shit as well
so it doesnt matter

[low nebula]

^

[turbid oriole]

@midnight marlin

[worldly hawk]

?misinfo

[tawny gate]

Spreading Misinformation is against the rules!

Spreading misinformation intentionally or with malintent is against our server rules. Even as a joke, the truth gets misconstrued and people get confused. This includes editing official sources for the game to imitate the publisher or a GM.
There will be penalties for such actions.

[turbid oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-california-reverse-gif-8000625330525004257

[wicked blade]

It is not 1m

With all stuff I have around 300-400k

[worldly hawk]

from 1600-1620

yes

[wicked blade]

With hyper

[worldly hawk]

from 1600-1660 it's around 1 million

[wicked blade]

Not normal

I'm not dumb

With hyper sir

[worldly hawk]

well you were talking to zheng so assumed

[wicked blade]

300-400k to 1600 with support and books

So around 60% cheaper on average

[worldly hawk]

that's still hella expensive

[wicked blade]

No, not really

I make 200k weekly

[worldly hawk]

imagine a newer player with no chars in T4

how are they gonna afford that

right, they can't

[wicked blade]

Well...

Get fucked

[worldly hawk]

[wicked blade]

If u start as a new player without Ignite...@worldly hawk

Tough luck

[worldly hawk]

that's why i call everyone stupid that calls it "free" to hone from 1600 to anywhere caus it's just not

[wicked blade]

I mean it is

If ur not new

[worldly hawk]

even if you're not new 400k is still alot of gold

[wicked blade]

2 weeks worth of gold

[worldly hawk]

imagine if you had to safe up for something in real life for 2 paychecks

and you couldn't buy anything else, no food, no drink, no rent no nothing

[wicked blade]

Can't relate

I have everything

[worldly hawk]

well SG has to make that shit affordable soon for newer players caus those are the ppl keeping the game afloat

we're already at an alltime low for playercount

[wicked blade]

They would done that 2y ago if they cared

But they dont

[swift tree]

idk what you're on about. pre-1600 Tier 3 is a fuck load better than how it was

biggest issue is gold cost on Brelshaza Gear, which is supposed to be removed next patch

[worldly hawk]

well i'm talking about after 1600

not before that

[swift tree]

well, yeah, 1600 is semi-relevant still whilst Transcendence and Elixirs rear their ugly fucking heads.

[wicked blade]

1600-1610 is dead zone

Imo

They should nerf it

[swift tree]

They could do an item level crunch to it like they did for lower Tier 3

[wicked blade]

Ye

Cuz as it is now 1600-1610 is basically useless

No raids in between, cant do transc

Cost a shit ton

[worldly hawk]

1610 is Thae solo

[wicked blade]

Read what I said

[worldly hawk]

oh inbetween

[wicked blade]

1600 to 1610 is dead zone

[worldly hawk]

i can't read

[wicked blade]

Ye, that shit is ass

Waste of gold

[worldly hawk]

they should jst make getting to T4 more affordable in general

[wicked blade]

Nah, just nerf AH 1-10

That is ass

[queen grail]

[wicked blade]

[worldly hawk]

not if you're lucky like me

[swift tree]

1490 - Brelshaza N
1520 Brelshaza H
1520 - Voldis MSQ
1520 Kayangel nm
1540 Kaya HM
1560 Akkan nm
1580 Akkan hm
1600 Thae nm
1600 Echidna nm
1580 Ivory Tower nm
1600 Ivory Tower hm
Tier 4 unlocked at 1600.

If they ever crunch the item levels like they did for Tier 1/2. Bet it'll end up like this.

[wicked blade]

I'm talking AH in T4

1-10

Not T3

[worldly hawk]

[wicked blade]

They should do that

100%

[worldly hawk]

idk imo there is no reason for 1620 to be this expensive

[swift tree]

1600 is also +15 which fits pattern of going to next tier / soft-cap at +15

[worldly hawk]

[swift tree]

Tier 2 -> Tier 3 -> Brel are both at +15 breakpoints

[worldly hawk]

like if i would start fresh today, i would drop the game after a couple weeks because of the virtual brick wall that is 1600

[wicked blade]

1600-1620 cost is just dumb

Imo

[worldly hawk]

and with almost no income to speak of i would loose interest very fast

[worldly hawk]

plus you make almost 0 gold with solo content at that ilvl

[swift tree]

It's to prevent Tier 4 mat farming low-key

[wicked blade]

Yeah... How would u even make income to do 1600-1620

It would take you a year

[charred void]

with f4

[worldly hawk]

there are already thousands of bots in T4

[wicked blade]

Duh

Real

[worldly hawk]

so they are preventing pretty much nothing

you think bot creators didn't make tens of thousands of account on ignite

[swift tree]

Game is designed around KR market sadly. Where handfarming is more common. Bots with countless steam accounts fucking blows but is not their metric.

One of the ways our version gets screwed over.

[worldly hawk]

well they should've learned from other MMO's because botting is very very common

[wicked blade]

Yeah, KR doesn't have bots

Cuz u bound ID

[swift tree]

With how their scheduling goes, we'll probably get Honing QoL around the time we get Rimeria

[wicked blade]

And u canbe held accountable in court

on KR

[swift tree]

AGS issue, liability is held by publisher in that case

[real basin]

with 1 character at 1610 I was making ~70k a week with the solo raids, rifts, boss gold share, skilling, and una's gold, it's average like 240k to go from 1610-1620, with an event it's not as bad but it's still several weeks

[dense inlet]

Will we get 1640 or 1660 hyper with wildsoul?

[wicked blade]

Support to 1660

Event to 1640

[swift tree]

^

[dense inlet]

Ahh nice

[swift tree]

Wonder if we'll get the roster-wide support as well

[worldly hawk]

what raven said

[worldly hawk]

you mean like the one we had last time?

[wicked blade]

Doubt it, it was character

[worldly hawk]

at least trans is hella cheap nowadays

[swift tree]

KR got an event that helped accounts that weren't active during KLC to get the rewards like Vykas/Valtan cards etc.

[worldly hawk]

imma set aside around 500k we'll see if thats enough for the pass char

[wicked blade]

I mean idc, I'm getting blade to 1660.
I wanted Glaivier but I not gonna fuck with elixirs again

[worldly hawk]

blade

[wicked blade]

Shit is expencive outside silver ones

[swift tree]

silver elixirs when

[wicked blade]

For hyper

[worldly hawk]

i already saved some

[wicked blade]

You get idk how many

25-30

[worldly hawk]

hopefully we get more

[wicked blade]

Smth like that

[swift tree]

I mean across the board like Clown upgrades :3

[wicked blade]

I used 80 on blade XDDD

[worldly hawk]

[swift tree]

speaking of which, Trumpets become required as of Feb Update , so you might want to get them

If you don't have 75 trumpets already

[wicked blade]

All damage lines, 3 5/5's, set 46

[real basin]

what do you need trumpets for?

[swift tree]

10 evo points come from Trumpets and Empyrions each. It's how they fold old set upgrades into new system.
Aegir gear actually loses 20 points overall to accomodate change

Aegir goes from 100 -> 80

[real basin]

ah

[hollow condor]

When is it optimal to advance hone in t4 if you already have 1-10?

[swift tree]

kinda

depends on if you already have the mats

[steel minnow]

+19

After 1690 gear

[midnight marlin]

TODAY IS CALIFORNIA IN FRIDAY

[swift tree]

whoops I misread

[swift tree]

It is Saturday my dudes

[steel minnow]

Thats why i typed it xdd

[midnight marlin]

IN CALIFORNIA

[swift tree]

I'd say +14 imo for advanced honing

advanced honing got more comfortable, especially if you had the banners

scrolls or w/e

[midnight marlin]

theyre asking for 11-20

[swift tree]

wow im fucking illiterate rn

yeah +19 def

+18/+19 for 11-20.
depends on how much you hate yourself.

[dense abyss]

[worldly hawk]

i hate myself very much

[swift tree]

SAMESIES! That's why I'm doing 11-15 at +17

Wonder how much T2 level 10s will eventually be

or if they just get deleted one day

[worldly hawk]

i assume the'll just get deleted someday and converted to T3

[swift tree]

Free Tier 4 level 8s then lol

./s

[real basin]

I'm surprised they didn't just enable gems from 500 and let you upgrade T2 to T3, then again you're in T2 for like a day

[worldly hawk]

you mean lvl 6s

10-8-6

math is hard

[swift tree]

Was assuming the Tier 2 ones would bug out at remain level 10s

[worldly hawk]

as if ags is gonna give us free 400k gold

market is gonna collapse

[real basin]

why you have T2 level 10s tho

[worldly hawk]

collector item iirc

[swift tree]

when dmg gems meant nothing and it was a meme to wear them on supports

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqa6APVSt28

HUH

[midnight marlin]

yes

[swift tree]

PTSD to Post-Voldis Livestream

Given how badly Mordum has gone over

[burnt tree]

[fallow marlin]

People are saying g3 is the most fun they had in awhile

[worldly hawk]

[fallow marlin]

Aside for the 420 bar

[spring copper]

yeah iirc anything past 7 is practically a waste

[swift tree]

and T2 level 10s were the same as a T3 7

[worldly hawk]

it's the honing costs that people are complaining about right?

AH 20-40

[fallow marlin]

I dont know inven recently did a mass ban

[swift tree]

advanced honing 20-40 AND the insane dps requirements of Gate 3

[fallow marlin]

It was found out a vast majority of the complaints on inven

[swift tree]

it was like 223 million dps

[fallow marlin]

We're just troll accounts

[burnt tree]

i mean it becomes omni directional and u mostly just dodge and keep dpsing non stop

[swift tree]

Omnidirectional Slog

KR are all dogs in Omnidirectional God's hot car

[fallow marlin]

Main thing people like is no dr phases

[burnt tree]

yeah

dr sucks ass

[worldly hawk]

dr

[swift tree]

ngl x0 mech for HM at least mechanically looks cool

[fallow marlin]

Portia was praising it recently as one the better fight they made in a while

Aside for the 420bar bug

[burnt tree]

Im almost ready Pinesoda

[swift tree]

damn nice

[worldly hawk]

[worldly hawk]

how much $$ ?

[fallow marlin]

Also I never take inven complaining seriously when it comes to the economy

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

just drop legendary cards bucko

[fallow marlin]

They usually get mad when gold price goes down

[burnt tree]

soonge

[swift tree]

I got Annika set though

[fallow marlin]

And instantly don't care if it goes up again

[quaint lagoon]

[worldly hawk]

i wish i knew korean, wanna know what they are talking about

[burnt tree]

well its called korean reddit for a reason, most ppl talking out of their buttcheeks

[fallow marlin]

You dont

[swift tree]

same as SEP x24

[fallow marlin]

Bunch of fucking morons

[quaint lagoon]

Xddd

[fallow marlin]

So alot of the outrage are just gold sellers

Actual community complaint usually never seen in inven

[burnt tree]

ofc they complain, making things eassier or better hurts their biz

[real basin]

hopefully someone is translating the live stream somewhere

[burnt tree]

Memo is

[swift tree]

Saintone/Memo

[burnt tree]

LOL

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/koryan-gif-26023825

[quaint lagoon]

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-caught-in4k-chungus-gif-19840038

[swift tree]

Who let the Japanese invade chat?

[burnt tree]

They want a round 2

27% clear rate for G3

wat

[queen grail]

Yay, one sold after relisting it for ages

[swift tree]

27% clear rate OOOM

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

[midnight marlin]

its so joever when we get it

[queen grail]

[charred void]

wasnt brel 2.0 supposed to be "hard"

[swift tree]

Brel was 30-40% though

[quaint lagoon]

Another piss easy raid let's go

[charred void]

and half 1690 cleared it here

[burnt tree]

brel om

[charred void]

well we had hp nerf

[queen grail]

No?

[safe lark]

we did

[queen grail]

I might be wrong but pretty sure our normal week 1 and 2 was normal no? Wasn't that the whole point of the declining nerf system.

[charred void]

no we had nerfed hp on release

[queen grail]

What was the point of the new system then?

[charred void]

compared to kr

[quaint lagoon]

Need to get to 1700 from 1670 so I can experience the true experience

[burnt tree]

we got the base hp nerf korea got the same day

[queen grail]

Oh well, anyways, time to go buy Skepasti for breakfast, 🦆 this.

[burnt tree]

well and damage

[swift tree]

Omnidirectional sounds right now

Sounds like the person stuck in Despairo is them

[charred void]

how about you buy this instead

[burnt tree]

Act 3 nerf next week lets go

[wind dagger]

[deft hearth]

and act 4 is gonna be harder so maybe 17% clear rate

[swift tree]

adding immunity to electrical shocks + nerf

[queen grail]

No

[swift tree]

Act 4 gonna be cursed, ends with Armen graphic scene in epilogue, bet.

[fallow marlin]

Final act being hard is fine

[swift tree]

Like Thaemine G4

[midnight marlin]

final act should be hard, itd be nice

[fallow marlin]

It's only the 425 bar pattern that fucked with people

[midnight marlin]

just despairge for most players because its tied to progression

[keen copper]

[swift tree]

1700 is likely gonna be breakpoint for next soft-reset.

[worldly hawk]

[swift tree]

so Act 4 won't be mandatory, like Thaemine HM/G4

[midnight marlin]

1710 i feel, cause act 3 adv honing, no?

oh wait

thats too high

yeah 1700

[swift tree]

1660/1670/1680/1690

w/ 1700 being breakpoint

[charred void]

putting some key story quest behind last gate clear 5% of the playerbase only gets

[swift tree]

yeah was a 100% shitty choice and still kinda mad at that

[fallow marlin]

Also this is pretty important to point out

[swift tree]

They made enough of an explanation for other quests though

[fallow marlin]

Alot of the streamer complain was the rewards being too small

[swift tree]

20k gold from Gate 3

cool, whale supremacy happening again

Adding Blessing style reward

[charred void]

new fomo titles?

[midnight marlin]

velganos wings

[swift tree]

instead of pets, it's Phantomwings

[wind dagger]

Velganos wings?

[swift tree]

Butterfly wings

[charred void]

velganos is a dog

[swift tree]

matches his colour sceheme, get why Crzyp said it

[midnight marlin]

is it actually not velg wings

[swift tree]

It's not

It's wings of the Gate 2 boss

[burnt tree]

when the boss eats a guardian his wings change

[uncut stratus]

Crazy

[swift tree]

Nightrea

[burnt tree]

so velganos colored wings

[swift tree]

^

Boss has an Alberhastic, Velg and another phase iirc

[midnight marlin]

Ulti

[charred void]

chatgpt, what is velganos color since nobody seen that guardian for like 2,5 years now

[uncut stratus]

What r u guys talking abt

[burnt tree]

yoho i think

[uncut stratus]

How ur day

[midnight marlin]

emergency stream

[burnt tree]

his wings go dark

[midnight marlin]

its yoho

[midnight marlin]

i woke up

thats a lie i havent been sleeping for real for a while

[midnight marlin]

bara

[swift tree]

what

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[swift tree]

just some innocent LOA fanart

[midnight marlin]

thats bara

[uncut stratus]

Nah that’s icy

[burnt tree]

hes appared several times in cutscenes

just dont be skipper

[swift tree]

dont worry, just posted a reference sheet for @charred void

[burnt tree]

xdd

[charred void]

ye, its sidereal color ok got it

[swift tree]

wings are slightly darker (more turqoise) but blue/gold is one of the variants

red/gold for another

[burnt tree]

new hair at march

[swift tree]

there's a stained glass version too

[burnt tree]

that means november for us

[spring copper]

its gonna be another kpop hair for men with a part on the right side instead of the left

[swift tree]

New Illusion Bamboo Island

[burnt tree]

its ok i dont play males

just give me echidna hair

[uncut stratus]

R u guys just talking abt act 3 raid?

[swift tree]

Rimeria Rapport part 2

[midnight marlin]

emergency stream

from director

[uncut stratus]

Better be apologizing for last night

[swift tree]

Strike Raid is Nargacuga from Rimeria

[charred void]

so this is how artists look like when they grow up huh

[uncut stratus]

No they get shorter

[swift tree]

Bet you it's like how Kajhiits work lol

"Phase of moon = type of cat you are"

[uncut stratus]

Never ask a nord the race of his wife

[burnt tree]

isnt it the cuck they sealed away at the end?

[swift tree]

Never ask how lusty an argonian is

[swift tree]

Ye, shadow dog monster, cryptid looking mofo

[burnt tree]

xdd

[uncut stratus]

haven’t heard that one before

[burnt tree]

cant believe its an EVENT raid

om

shts gonna last 3 months then bye bye

[midnight marlin]

the maid book

[swift tree]

1720 TEMPORARY RAID.

[burnt tree]

lmao

[quaint lagoon]

Damn

[burnt tree]

1720

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/death-gif-21917172

[quaint lagoon]

Actually insane

[hazy flume]

1720 hard mode* but yea

[burnt tree]

makes sense why u need the new adv honing

xdddddddd

[prime briar]

1720 ??

[swift tree]

HM

[burnt tree]

well

KR adv honing is way cheaper than ours

[midnight marlin]

we will have adv honing by then

[swift tree]

20-40 is way cheaper

[burnt tree]

their mats dont cost 80-100 gold

[prime briar]

If they adress 1-20

U cant do 20-40 without

[burnt tree]

21-30 is as expensive as 11-20

31-40 slightly more expensive

[swift tree]

Frog event but instead of books it gives adv honing scrolls, hear me out

[burnt tree]

nah AH needs a base nerf

not the shitty scrolls

[swift tree]

ofc

[prime briar]

Exactly

[burnt tree]

u still use scrolls on grace

[prime briar]

Just remove chisel

[burnt tree]

which is ass

[swift tree]

need material reduction and gold reduction

[prime briar]

Then u can do scrolls

[swift tree]

1700 HM not 1720

[prime briar]

Easy easy

[midnight marlin]

WHAT IS MEMO SAYING

[quaint lagoon]

Okay more acceptable

[burnt tree]

now its 1700 not 1720

gg

[midnight marlin]

MEMO PLS

[prime briar]

Thats only it ?

[swift tree]

@left maple Bruh, don't bait us like that ❤️

[hazy flume]

depends on version

[keen copper]

light work

been 1700 for a while now

[midnight marlin]

same

[prime briar]

Present only for kr

[burnt tree]

wh4les

lol is that a legendary engraving book? xd

or relic

[swift tree]

25 mins stream kek

[quaint lagoon]

No way it's over I'm dead

[keen copper]

that stream was actually dogshit no

[swift tree]

"Is there a problem with the Korean language" - Saintone

... I mean.

[burnt tree]

xddddd

[midnight marlin]

dude

i thought he was flaming memo

[swift tree]

L/R/W being the same glyph bruh

[midnight marlin]

[keen copper]

recorded vid

[swift tree]

Fucking hilarious how Adrenaline relic book cost is a metric on player activity for LOA in Korea

[spring copper]

recorded vod om

[cunning mesa]

guysss i just woke up whats happening

[prime briar]

They could bring gold river back at that point

[swift tree]

KR lost their shiz, tl;dr Act 3 got some QoL adjustments and just some details about Korean content

[swift tree]

GoldRiver is just as much of a troll lol

GoldRiver prefers RNG over grind.

Act 3 had highest amount of player participation in Korea, but only 27% clear rate for Gate 3.

[cunning mesa]

so more lfire?

[prime briar]

Advh still sh**

[cunning mesa]

oh boy smilegate and amazon love drama

[burnt tree]

its a korean stream for the korean version

idk why ppl go lfire when its not even about them

[quaint lagoon]

No announced change for advanced honing

[burnt tree]

idiots.

[swift tree]

in fairness.... gestures at New World drama

[burnt tree]

cause its cheap in Korea

their leaps dont cost 90g

their orehas dont cost 80g

[swift tree]

oof

[quaint lagoon]

Ik some one asked what was up

So I answered

[burnt tree]

[vagrant cradle]

another legendary pet

[swift tree]

tl;dr new raids have been more accessible, like early Tier 3. Problem is accessibility doesn't translate to Raid difficulty

[burnt tree]

om

[quaint lagoon]

Nice

[swift tree]

Omni adjusting x425 mech

[vagrant cradle]

no yumi

[cunning mesa]

its so doomed for us

[swift tree]

nah, they'd adjusting it (and they do further health reduction for us).

https://youtu.be/w8K9CIqt0i0?si=74tr2jWuV-HUj1rK&t=3220 x452 mech timestamped

[burnt tree]

we got frontier

we get base nerfs over time

[worldly hawk]

people in the west can barley clear echidna on 1660 chars as is

how is it gonna be ongear on act 3

[burnt tree]

and we will get all these changes KR will get for Act 3 at launch

[worldly hawk]

[midnight marlin]

the people not clearing ech on 1660 are not the ones progging hard raids on release

[burnt tree]

^

[safe lark]

who cant clear echidna on 1660

[midnight marlin]

me

[worldly hawk]

ask arna

[safe lark]

except raven

[worldly hawk]

[swift tree]

I can clear echidna on 1660, not gonna tell you which one though

[worldly hawk]

arna has some ss of a couple pulls

[worldly hawk]

[swift tree]

totally not doing MSQ on 4th pagers for roster level

[midnight marlin]

4th page...

[safe lark]

idk what she sent

i can clear almost solo echidna

[swift tree]

ye

[worldly hawk]

yeah she was in fuull 1660 lobby that left their prostetic hands laying around somewhere

[safe lark]

well

i guess i was there too

[midnight marlin]

wait i wanna see this mech now

[worldly hawk]

@safe lark

[swift tree]

I linked it

[worldly hawk]

that was onne of her pulls

[real basin]

i'm coming up on 300 and I got so much more MSQ and tower to do

[swift tree]

#lost-ark-discussions message

[safe lark]

i know the summoner guy

[midnight marlin]

yea hi saw

this

is

[worldly hawk]

i think that might be you

[midnight marlin]

this looks fun if it was a single player game

[vagrant cradle]

good lord I'm up to 27 legendary pets now

[swift tree]

mood

[vagrant cradle]

why are 1660s doing so little

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1244972169809760338.webp?size=96&animated=true

[worldly hawk]

16m dps on 1660 breaker is illegal

i have no hands and i'm doing 40-50

[safe lark]

g1

[burnt tree]

its ok summoner carrying

[worldly hawk]

you're the only one doing human damage

[real basin]

why people do no dam

[worldly hawk]

only summ, arti and aero reached dps req

[vagrant cradle]

there's no way 1660s are doing so little

[safe lark]

and this is disband pull

[worldly hawk]

bro noone reached dps requirement that pull except you

[swift tree]

Seeing this and then knowing that HM Mordum is 223 million dps requirement per player

[queen grail]

@burnt tree TL;DR what happen on stream

[worldly hawk]

[burnt tree]

Act 3 nerfs for gate 3, buffing battle item for g2, balance patch end of february, new hair and transformation skins at March

[worldly hawk]

@safe lark i'm genuinly curious what are cpm from the slayer

and is he pred or pun

[queen grail]

gotta wait for Feb

[safe lark]

44 is also low

idk what happened there

[worldly hawk]

because my 1640 is doing more

[burnt tree]

some buffs will be for classes that are slow and sht for Act 3 boss

[swift tree]

Hey aly, want to see my slayer?

[burnt tree]

also they will add visual damage font for shield damage

blueee

[queen grail]

they better buff Wardancer.

[worldly hawk]

[stark sky]

The DPS in narkiel is always low unless you skip stagger

[worldly hawk]

no more "absorbed"

[burnt tree]

since when is WD slow

[queen grail]

Furry.

[stark sky]

this chat is dented

[vagrant cradle]

wardancers are strong enough..

[queen grail]

2022?

Buff.

[swift tree]

where's the lie

[worldly hawk]

sir those were G2 pulls

[queen grail]

I didn't lie?

[worldly hawk]

[swift tree]

exactly

[worldly hawk]

you're the dented one, we have already established this

[stark sky]

Who even are u

[swift tree]

Oof

[worldly hawk]

someone that knows more about the game than you, and isn't completely delusional

[swift tree]

Saintone calling it, Gate 3 being used for DPS balance will be cursed

[queen grail]

Time for clicky clicky 2 times on Acc's.

Shorely I hit a mid roll.

[burnt tree]

oh yeah and the event raid aka strike raid will be 1680 NM 1720 HM for 8 man and for NM 4man 1660 and HM 4 man 1700

[queen grail]

[stark sky]

Why eu people always ragebait

Actual dents

[queen grail]

one fail.

[worldly hawk]

[queen grail]

Why you trying to rage-bait an entire region calling them ragebait?

Kinda cringe

Classic NA behaviour.

[swift tree]

They're fixing shield damage indicators

[queen grail]

[swift tree]

Instead of saying Absorb, it will say the damage

[stark sky]

There's like 5 normal eu people in this chat

[queen grail]

So that's 5 more than NA Sweet.

#Winning!

[swift tree]

tl;dr it will be added to the cough

[burnt tree]

oh wait

Kazeros wont have DR either

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/destroy-thor-bad-bad-day-surtur-gif-14827852

[burnt tree]

yeah we definitely starting with him being bigg boi

[worldly hawk]

that's ragnarok not Kazeros

[burnt tree]

then he transforms into that knight from the concept art

[swift tree]

Same difference

[queen grail]

Why you posting the dumbest "badguy" from Marvel?

[swift tree]

-> Fire-based god meant to summon the end of the world

-> Fire-based god meant to summon the end of the world

hmmge

[ancient tundra]

Ye same shit

[queen grail]

The guy legit just got resurrected to kill himself Bruh

[covert remnant]

Can someone clarify what piloting here means?
Like someone with hands plays a whale/rmter acc to clear raid? Or just any other avg andy account?

[queen grail]

Pilot = Someone drives your account.

[queen grail]

[obtuse oyster]

I see them doing something similar with aegir. With the first gate being out side fighting the big version (behemoth style). Into the next gates being inside of his big self fighting a smaller/more amped of version. With the last gate being his soul or w/e

[queen grail]

These mother 'ers can't die.

[burnt tree]

last version is the knight probably

[swift tree]

Strike Raid is 1 gate

[burnt tree]

Also Kazeros kinda saved Varkan

[swift tree]

Strike raid will count as a gold riad

bruh

[burnt tree]

so maybe Varkan > Bigg Kazeros > Knight Kazeros

[burnt tree]

considering aegir hm giving 30k gold

it better be giving the same amount

at minimum for us

[swift tree]

Hear me out, we should get Strike Raid before Act 3

[midnight marlin]

1720

i would like adv honing before

[swift tree]

1660 - 1720

[midnight marlin]

i want hard raid

[swift tree]

they could also Behemoth it for Global

[keen copper]

if ur already 1700 rn

1720 prbs not bad

[midnight marlin]

yeah but like

ilevel is the only thing that i pushed

im still on 7s and 2 6s

when is kazeros

[swift tree]

Yeah

[midnight marlin]

this is starting to sound like content

[swift tree]

KR Summer

Like April/May at earliest

KR is still awaiting Adventure Isle + Illuision Stone Update + Rimeria Epilogue + Strike Raid Event

[queen grail]

Yes Yes Drop down.

[charred void]

nice el cheapo engraving

[burnt tree]

still the best for progs

[charred void]

prog was first 2 weeks brel hm

[swift tree]

lol KR also mad about Bussing and Rice Farming.
huh

whoda thunk

[queen grail]

@burnt tree @wintry depot @obtuse oyster Finally!

[swift tree]

congrats

[queen grail]

Bro, that took wayy wayy to long to get

[burnt tree]

i was afk writing a summary for the stream for world boss

ill get inven'd

[wicked blade]

[wicked blade]

Yaaay

Poison + Bleed are great

[cunning mesa]

[swift tree]

gimme

[burnt tree]

wdym ppl will report me

afk'r leeching world boss

[wind dagger]

report sathona everyone

ez ban

[queen grail]

[burnt tree]

i was writing a summary for the kr stream

[wind dagger]

i have no aura

where aura

i pay silver to triport

[wicked blade]

Lmaaao

Pay silver peasant

Or pay... 45k gold for Aura

BC prices man

[charred void]

what you need aura for

[worldly hawk]

accessing storage everywhere

[wicked blade]

Repair

[worldly hawk]

i don't want to walk to an NPC when i want to clear up my inv

[burnt tree]

o

[wicked blade]

Ye...

I ain't looking at that

[wind dagger]

BUSSING

[wicked blade]

Bussing is fine.

[charred void]

its not

[wicked blade]

Without that, say bye to ever getting into raid on character u want to raise

Busses are needed.

[uncut dirge]

they don't want you to get into a raid

unless you have 10k hours played

[wicked blade]

Ye

Saying busses are problem

You need to be braindamaged for that take

[charred void]

surely there are 7 more rats with the same problem as "you"

but rats dont play with rats

[wicked blade]

It is same gold. You pay bussers gold that is already in circulation

Are u dumb

[charred void]

since everyone wants a free carry

[uncut dirge]

yeah, there are 7 more characters like that

all dps

because all the supports join your lobby instead

because when it comes to supports you suddenly don't care about them being super geared

that's essentially the problem

whether you have buses or not, the regular lobbies of old timers will suck up the needed classes and the half-decent players

it's not really a solvable problem

[errant fable]

🚌

[uncut dirge]

because some people have had 3 years to collect gems, others have not

[worldly hawk]

make something like the mokoko event permanent

reward geared players for taking someone new with them

[uncut dirge]

sure, but that's just bussing

but paid for by AGS instead of the player htemselves

[charred void]

proceeds to make rat account to boost his own alt

[errant fable]

"New" you mean someone with a altrosters Island name

[uncut stratus]

I’m not taking someone who’s been playing the game for a week through my 10x brel hm

For free

[errant fable]

To get free carry gold

[uncut dirge]

well, the alt roster stuff is another symptom of the above

gatekeeping requirements are so out of whack what's needed for the raids that people target that rather than anything else

so people trying to get as much gold as easily as possible is inevitable

[charred void]

why do you think gatekeeping exists

[uncut dirge]

because you don't want to play with 90% of the humans

in the world

[charred void]

when all the garbage got boosted to endgame they clearly dont belong into

[uncut dirge]

that's why it exists

[uncut stratus]

@uncut dirge have u tried just finding a static

Do you know how many problems I had with gatekeeping

[uncut dirge]

you will never find a static for all of your characters that matches up perfectly

[uncut stratus]

Then I found a static

[uncut dirge]

and if you can't then now you're stuck with 2 other people in a simila rsituation but it's harder

[uncut stratus]

And magically all my problems went away

[uncut dirge]

because as a single character you might get into lobbies but not as 3

[uncut stratus]

“Oh no I can’t do all 18 raids on my chars” bro stop treating this game like a job it’s why you hate it

[errant fable]

Ban the words wts and stuff Like that in Lobbyfinder.
Remove the Option to buy stuff inside the raid from the Marketplace

[uncut dirge]

so "all your problems" went away was really you not playing the game then?

[uncut stratus]

Ban you from cooking, please never think again

[uncut dirge]

yeah, you're right, quitting the game would indeed make all the game's problems go away

[errant fable]

Found a busser

[cunning mesa]

and remove the option to send yourself gold from different rosters

xD would at least mitigate the issue

[errant fable]

[kind oriole]

1720 hard 8 man

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[charred void]

thats sounds like a bad idea

[uncut dirge]

we're almost four digit player count in the EU mornings

[uncut stratus]

Ask literally any normal person in this discord who knows me, I’m not a busser im just not dumb

[uncut dirge]

i feel like things would get rough

[queen grail]

Bussing is just playing the game on easymode, imagine making 2x your normal income.
Same with multi-roster 50-100+ char's that joins bus for passive income.

[wicked blade]

Busses are needed in LOA, I don't know how is that even a question.
And technically ur giving bussers gold so it is same amount. You don't create inflation as much

Think a bit

☕

[errant fable]

[cunning mesa]

XD

[uncut dirge]

yeah, i also think bussing is needed

game would lose a lot of players if bussing disappeared

[errant fable]

And ppl with Rat alts who makeing gold from busses

Not Like alt but new Steam accounts

[wicked blade]

No I mean legit reasons

[queen grail]

Erm...

Say that to the guy who made 100 char's that he joins busses with, how is that not creating gold that's not supposed to be in the game? And he's not alone on doing that.

[uncut dirge]

they will join your lobbies instead then

[craggy parrot]

Most would be bots anyway

[wicked blade]

if I want to bring blade to 1660, i have to get bus

That is not even a question

[uncut dirge]

nono, bro

just run 8 man no ark passive parties instead

it's that easy!!!

[charred void]

you inflate endgame with bad people, which causes wipes, which causes increased gatekeeping

[uncut dirge]

or better yet, just drop the character entirely!

[queen grail]

could also make friendship and join them on a run.

[wicked blade]

Ye, not like every lobby is AP

[quaint lagoon]

Why we got to have this conversation everyday man

[wicked blade]

I join u

[errant fable]

I have joined the gatekeep train If ppl have a Low Roster

[wicked blade]

The f u mean

[charred void]

in 2 hours its dps meter again

[quaint lagoon]

Look into discord and it's this crap again

[uncut dirge]

that's normal

[quaint lagoon]

[uncut dirge]

but you gotta understand that all these weird things people do is a way for them to get ahead in the game

since ultimately party finder is a pvp game

[uncut stratus]

Congrats you’re a normal person

[errant fable]

I Love the altrosters apes with good Gems that will Flame you because you dont Take them

[dull obsidian]

But I only earn an extra like 700k a week from bussing

[uncut stratus]

Gatekeeping is literally just the leaders choice, nothing you can do about it

[quaint lagoon]

Hiw are purple books still in cube I can't

[wicked blade]

Bussing is fine. They at least put extra work

Ya all acting like bussers get gold for free

[dull obsidian]

Bro bussing is easier than pugging

[wicked blade]

In Brel, not so much

[dull obsidian]

Even in brel

[uncut stratus]

Had one of those in brel prog, he tried to join on ilvl for nm, we denied him, he applied on a 1700 asked why we didn’t accept and I just told him his character was dog simple as

[wicked blade]

Aegir is piss easy tho

[uncut stratus]

If u get gatekept ur just bad

[wicked blade]

[uncut stratus]

Get better

[dull obsidian]

Brel 4c is free now

[swift tree]

It kills finding parties at a certain level though

[wicked blade]

Ye, that is the reason

[uncut stratus]

How much dps I need?

I might be able to cook

[dull obsidian]

85m

[cunning mesa]

they do

[wicked blade]

Stop being delusional pls @uncut stratus

[dull obsidian]

For min

[queen grail]

Bunch of my friends that started bussing it was easier than doing normal 8 man run's

Just saying.

[uncut stratus]

85???? THATS IT????

@dull obsidian time to cook

[dull obsidian]

Our 4c dps are doing 110m each

[uncut stratus]

Time to 4c brel nm

[uncut dirge]

that's only true if bus buyers are a perfect split of dps and supp tho

[dull obsidian]

Like the raid is so pepega easy after prog

[uncut stratus]

I do 95

[uncut dirge]

maybe it is on some level, but things like haegir buses are all dps

[uncut stratus]

On 1680

[swift tree]

? I'm talking about finding parties for content that isn't absolutely new.

[dull obsidian]

95m with what though

Supports in busses should be like 93/95/40 finish in a bus

[uncut stratus]

PS SH

[uncut dirge]

hard aegir is like 3-4 months old

[dull obsidian]

I meant support wise

[uncut stratus]

Oh artist/pally

Rarely bard

[dull obsidian]

Literally the only problem in nm might actually be G1 triple counter

[uncut stratus]

Nah

Have hands

[uncut dirge]

obviously 4-man buses are gonna happen in brel

[swift tree]

If it's a required progress step in the game, every party shouldn't be "AP/Oppressor" or "WTS"

[dull obsidian]

Because one person has to ephernia and 3 people have to land the counter

[uncut stratus]

Maybe ur just bad

[uncut dirge]

if people can clear hard mode brel

and normal requires 40% of the dps

[uncut stratus]

You cast ephernia when he starts his dash

[uncut dirge]

then the dps is already sufficient if they've done hm once

[uncut stratus]

???

[cunning mesa]

yeah

[wicked blade]

Every Aegir party being AP+ and u can't get in... Yeah bro, ur bad

Shut up Ulti

[cunning mesa]

pf shouldnt take this long for characters recently pushed

[uncut stratus]

Raven u should know I’m trolling

[uncut dirge]

??? what the hell are you even talking about

[swift tree]

Only reason I've gotten into Aegir is via Guardian/Rat/Learning via a guild

[queen grail]

You know the best way to get into new content, friendship.

[uncut stratus]

U should know I’m just pissing off people

[errant fable]

[wicked blade]

I know, I'm reverse trolling

[queen grail]

Start forming them

[wicked blade]

[uncut stratus]

[errant fable]

https://tenor.com/view/gawrgura-shark-stare-gura-stare-vtuber-vtubing-gif-14287291922741786521

[uncut stratus]

But yeah, getting gatekept just means ur not good enough

Either get better or find a static

[dull obsidian]

Quite literally

[swift tree]

[charred void]

*not rich enough

[uncut stratus]

I just offered 2 solutions

[charred void]

roster 100 ilvl 1715, yes this way sir

[uncut stratus]

To your problem

[dull obsidian]

No you are just shitter if you are being gatekept in Aegir at this point in time

[queen grail]

No, getting gatekept just means the grp you applied to is so trash they need to find something better to carry them

[dull obsidian]

That raid is literally 28m MIN dps

[swift tree]

roster 320, item level 1680, level 7 gems. Still would be gatekept

[uncut stratus]

That’s ur opinion, own it

[dull obsidian]

We were doing that in hthae

[uncut dirge]

that's very cool

[queen grail]

I got gatekept for Brell hard on my Artist.
Because my wep was 1680 and not 1690

[uncut stratus]

I was doing that in voldis

[wicked blade]

Or u have no AP and all groups are AP? Because U ARE SUPPOSED TO UNLOCK AP IN NORMAL AEGIR

[uncut dirge]

but that doesn't stop people from requiring 5 piece + lvl 7 gems + blah blah blah

[wicked blade]

[dull obsidian]

No AP?

Join oppressor groups then

[uncut stratus]

Imagine no ap, right @dull obsidian?

[uncut dirge]

idk if there are oppressor groups anymore

[uncut stratus]

Couldn’t be me

[dull obsidian]

There 100% are

[swift tree]

There are

[uncut dirge]

normal aegir gatekeeping makes no sense to me since brel

[queen grail]

Have you ever cleared cleared Aegir and know what's going on, like really know? Because if so, why didn't you just ask me if I have a spot when I'm going normal?

[wicked blade]

I was literally no AP, getting gatekept Aegir. Bussed 3 weeks, got AP...
THIS WAY SIR

[uncut dirge]

sometimes people get taken when they have absolutel fuck all

[swift tree]

You doubt people's ability to be toxic shits.

[uncut dirge]

other times it's super high geared people only

sometimes supports are super hard to find too

[burnt tree]

just press G, DPS, stagger here n there

how hard could it be frfr

[obtuse oyster]

Real

[queen grail]

All raids are easy when you've done them enough, I think Brell hard is easy.

[obtuse oyster]

Community is pretty trash ngl

[charred void]

i wonder why, wiped this week 3 times to the slow rotating laser in g2

[burnt tree]

i think G2 is easy, G1 is a pain

[uncut dirge]

in hm?

[charred void]

nm

[queen grail]

Both easy

[uncut dirge]

damn

[obtuse oyster]

G1 is hella free tho

[queen grail]

G1 guy needs to just calm down a bit.

[uncut dirge]

i haven't seen that since like week 1

[swift tree]

I'd say based but ppl actually think like this

[uncut stratus]

Sorry I don’t get gatekept from normal aegir anymore, my main 6 are 1680+

[swift tree]

G2 had someone holding dps on the rotating laser mech...

[burnt tree]

support diff, most supps we had in prog did not in fact mitigate

[uncut dirge]

but it makes no sense

[burnt tree]

so everything hurtsss

[uncut dirge]

cause after rotating laser you get side room

[obtuse oyster]

Oh, real

[uncut dirge]

and then another super long transition

[obtuse oyster]

Sooo many bad supports man

Playing for meter rather than playing for clear

[burnt tree]

and we dont even lack damage

[swift tree]

they weren't the brightest, blamed rest of raid on run. Replaced them and 1-shot

[burnt tree]

but if the supports dont mitigate we are forced to dps less and play safer on patterns we know we can dps if they shield

[uncut dirge]

i had 7 potions left at 145 yesterday, in normal tho

in brel

it was great

[uncut stratus]

Congrats that’s called average

[cunning mesa]

direct result of meter

[uncut stratus]

[cunning mesa]

everyone wants their big juicy number, instead of going for the clear

[faint grove]

why is this a thing

[swift tree]

focusing on uptime, meanwhile can't place a godsent to save a dps that's stuck in a normal pattern

[obtuse oyster]

Yep