lost-ark-discussions

[wicked blade]

Yeah, 200k is about right

120-200k

[tulip charm]

i remb the last 2 times on those event passes, they usually refund some gold on the final reward chest at 1620, and after the refund i remb i used like 50k gold

[high fog]

This is 1600-1620 event + optimal

[fervent ibex]

so ur including refunds

brother

[burnt tree]

i was tapping with ark pass orehas, but now yeah

[fervent ibex]

thats not the argument at hand

[wicked blade]

Bro... It is 40k last time

[burnt tree]

no event orehas left

[tulip charm]

dossn't matter what the bullsht calculator says, test it yourself next week on wildsoul pass

[fervent ibex]

LMAOLMAOLMAO

[wicked blade]

Yup... RIP

[burnt tree]

"next week"

[meager hill]

this is just too good

[tulip charm]

the refund is not even that much, it returns like 20k or ssomething usually

[meager hill]

comedy central

[wicked blade]

I HONED 1580-1620, IT COSTED 150K GOLD WITH ALL MATS

Who are u making stupid here

Holy shit, shut up

[meager hill]

maybe zheng really is chuan's alt account

[thorny olive]

they didnt even give us fusion in event shop

[tulip charm]

i can't convince you otherwise, your calculator is your bible, test it out yourself next week

[wicked blade]

Real

[burnt tree]

nah chuan at this point in the conversation would be calling ppl names

[wicked blade]

[thorny olive]

well, this whole event shop is actually one of the worst we had in a while

[burnt tree]

yeah

[wicked blade]

Next week? WS is next week?

[burnt tree]

for an anniversary event shop

[thorny olive]

they lowered all the shit to make ppl buy ark pass or something

[burnt tree]

its pretty bad

[high fog]

I needed more leaps

[wicked blade]

Wait, WS is next week, not end of Feb?

[high fog]

Surely we get the shop extended

[tulip charm]

ima start calling names when their horse calculator bible dosn't match up and they spend 50k instead

[meager hill]

bro I literally did it twice, by myself, and it was 300k in taps alone, are you ok?

[fervent ibex]

??? im telling u from experience that it costs that much, the calculator is also just hard evidence. i honed FIVE 1600>1620 right before T4 launch, i went from 1.8m to 100k, NO materials bought, cuz the characters were old af and hoarding tons

[burnt tree]

lol

[thorny olive]

they gave us 300 leaps.. like, thats nothing

[burnt tree]

unknown

[empty sleet]

hopefully we get a new one ..

[high fog]

I have 4 more armor taps to make it to 1680

[wicked blade]

Why is zheng saying it like facts

[high fog]

On my lm

[wicked blade]

[burnt tree]

AGS only said next week would add the anniversary skins and such

[high fog]

So I can switch to the better build

:d

[burnt tree]

theres no indication WS is next week

[thorny olive]

whats funny is, they gave crap load of shards but no other mats

[wicked blade]

True

Shitshow

[tulip charm]

actually not sure, i just assumed they send this out early so people can start aegir earlier

[burnt tree]

for what xd

[thorny olive]

huh

[burnt tree]

theres literally nothing to rush for now

[thorny olive]

did u just assume or did u get any hint from somewhere

[obtuse oyster]

why would they do that

[wicked blade]

Bro what

[tulip charm]

idk, i just assumed

they said feb

[burnt tree]

feb patch is late february

[thorny olive]

2/26

[burnt tree]

cause january patch was late this year

[thorny olive]

most likely wild soul

[wicked blade]

26th Febr is WS

Makes no sense before that

[slender sky]

no wildsoul is tomorrow, just got off the phone with matt

[thorny olive]

they always time these things to end before new class release

[queen grail]

108 mil dps in Echidna G1 @wicked blade

[thorny olive]

at least a lot of it was roster this time

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[wicked blade]

Only? Gotta push those numbers up

[tulip charm]

matt and roxx put themselves in the game, but where is henry

[wicked blade]

?misinfo

[tawny gate]

Spreading Misinformation is against the rules!

Spreading misinformation intentionally or with malintent is against our server rules. Even as a joke, the truth gets misconstrued and people get confused. This includes editing official sources for the game to imitate the publisher or a GM.
There will be penalties for such actions.

[empty sleet]

omg ws sunday surprise drop

[wicked blade]

[queen grail]

[empty sleet]

yipiee

[wicked blade]

[thorny olive]

henry is busy getting his 27th sidereal

[wicked blade]

[high fog]

When can we convince smilegate to let us use the event on any ilvl chara

My reaper has eaten so many events at this point

[wicked blade]

When Tencent buys Smilegate

[meager hill]

when you become a majority shareholder

[high fog]

I’m starting to run out of storage space

For the event gems

[thorny olive]

xD

[quaint lagoon]

Delete them

[thorny olive]

my slayer

[wicked blade]

Why you even keep that

[thorny olive]

i have space for it

[high fog]

Like its just the char I keep at min ilvl

To get all the rewards from event

Cuz I can’t use it on any of my top 6

Stupid 1640 rule man

[thorny olive]

oh, I just made her part of main 6, she's my luckiest at honing anyway

she can hone with bound mats somehow

er

obviously not 100%

but more than others

[meager hill]

time to 1690 with bounds

what are you wasting time on

[high fog]

I have a character I’ve been trying to drop for 4 months now

But it has the most insane honing rng

That I can’t justify it

[quaint lagoon]

[meager hill]

why do you hone a character you're trying to drop

[analog path]

dentge

[high fog]

I’ve hit 6 free taps

In like the past 2 months

On that thing

It’s like 1677 now or some shit

[thorny olive]

💀 yea, no, she made it to 1660 with bounds, and 1670 with like half bound

[quaint lagoon]

Okay give me your luck time to share

[thorny olive]

at this rate

[meager hill]

what the fuck

[thorny olive]

idk, she's weird

[high fog]

Like I free tapped the wep to 16 last night

[tulip charm]

wait, someone use the site to check henry

[high fog]

And was like I guess I got no choice

[tulip charm]

i think ign is hardcore henry or something

[thorny olive]

I don't get that, I get 1 taps with oreha instead

wtf

SHE STILL HAS BOUND STONES

[analog path]

:wtf:

[thorny olive]

I honed her to 1670 just before reset

so she could do brel

[meager hill]

naw, that's crazy

you're him

I can't get +5 in a month of saving

[analog path]

she's her

[thorny olive]

actually, could be from aegir & brel?

idk how much they give

[high fog]

Guardian stones makes sense

The reds u prob had extra before

[thorny olive]

yeah she has never ran out of that

[wicked blade]

I onetapped weapon from +11 to +15

But +16 was a pity

[analog path]

is that good

[wicked blade]

+16 ate all of saved mats

[queen grail]

[meager hill]

good

[high fog]

It’s 2 1 taps makes up for 1 full pity

Iirc

Compared to average

There was some math a while ago

I forgor where tho

[thorny olive]

she's a sweetheart

[high fog]

So like free tapping 14,15 then pitying 16

[analog path]

holy honkers

[queen grail]

She looks like she has a great personality.

[thorny olive]

yus

[analog path]

boobmaxxing

[meager hill]

she must have DID, because her 2 personalities are amazing

[thorny olive]

xD

[meager hill]

I need t3 ap

[thorny olive]

yea me too for my ratties

[meager hill]

I want to make a glaive and slayer, but I ain't suffering current t3

[thorny olive]

gear set is garbage

[wicked blade]

Real

[thorny olive]

after ark passive it's unusable

[mystic basin]

[thorny olive]

and remembering to awake on stuff like dom/nightmare...

[mystic basin]

where do you get these?

[thorny olive]

[wicked blade]

1600-1620... Surely they nerf it... Or at least AH 1-10

In T4

[wicked blade]

[high fog]

Send help

I’m so close yet so far away

[meager hill]

tbf, story with no betrayal is gonna be despair

[high fog]

Just 4 more free taps

[thorny olive]

you can do it

[wicked blade]

250k and u got it

[thorny olive]

oh right, T3 chaos doesnt have free betrayal

like T4 chaos

[meager hill]

ye

[mystic basin]

[meager hill]

straight up despair

[high fog]

Ppl were asking for flame charms in nm earlier this week

I was like

Brother that shit is 200g a pop

[wicked blade]

They should make Aegir 1640 raid and hm 1660

[high fog]

I ain’t using em we ephernia

[wicked blade]

[meager hill]

tf is that brain looking ass

[mystic basin]

the flame scroll thing

thats one of the crafting reqs

[wicked blade]

[cunning mesa]

i need it to stop being gatekept on every char

[high fog]

If u autocomplete a round of it on all the alts

Should have enough to craft

For like

[meager hill]

naw, that's crazy. Why didn't you craft a bunch?

[high fog]

The rest of time

[high fog]

I did but I’m saving for hm

[mystic basin]

we love honing

[mystic basin]

round of what

[high fog]

The una

[neon cedar]

I auto completed on my lopangs day 1 and crafted 500

[high fog]

That gives u them

[neon cedar]

Wont need more for awhile

[mystic basin]

ohhh

[high fog]

I crafted like 300

It should be enough to last for like

Forever

[meager hill]

eh, I don't have the gold to actually get gatekept

so they'll slumber in solo 1600 for eternity

[cunning mesa]

🚬 i feel your pain

my gloves did that today

i went rage honing right after

[high fog]

I gave my alt a t4 8

As lobby bait

[cunning mesa]

i actually got tilted xD not even league does that anymore

[high fog]

Surely nobody checks what gem it is

Xd

[cunning mesa]

[thorny olive]

[meager hill]

I'm used to getting raw dogged in the ass with no lube by other krmmorpgs

so lost ark is just same shit different day

[high fog]

For us poor folk

We just need to find other ways

To sneak into lobbies

[meager hill]

lobby sim for 2 hours, farming rings to PEN for 200 hours, only to blow up in 2 secs

[high fog]

[meager hill]

same same

I just apply to everything

[high fog]

I’ve become pretty good at the craft

[meager hill]

no shame

[analog path]

lost ark should have a hardcore mode where if you die in any way you start over

[high fog]

You just gotta give enough to every alt

That ppl are like

It’s prob good enough

But not over gear any of them

It’s a very fine balance

[mystic basin]

oh ait you need to be 1670 to do it

[high fog]

No u don’t

U can auto complete

[mystic basin]

but thats what the req says

oh

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/james-randal-spaceboy-thor-wheelchair-pirate-software-gif-12848093346124651460

[analog path]

is that ♿ karen

[tulip charm]

pirate software lol

[worldly hawk]

guys can we stop clicking on links

jesus fucking christ

obiously don'T click on that

[analog path]

where mod

[worldly hawk]

[analog path]

@mystic basin

[tulip charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89oKVgLOxzc&ab_channel=Quin69TV quinn farming views off him lol

[meager hill]

only the initial completion is 1670

after that you can do it on lopang alts

[cunning mesa]

no way, we have been infested with hacked people since yesterday

i should make a link with that but instead of getting hacked, it sends you to a website with a donkey

XD

[analog path]

rick roll

[mystic basin]

another brel adventure

surely we clear

[meager hill]

[quaint lagoon]

Ngl the amount that where zerks or db's was

[wicked blade]

HELLO!

Free 200$ steam gift card.
Just visit
clickhereandgetscammedidiot(.)com
Offer only valid today

💸

[queen grail]

stay on topic

[quaint lagoon]

I clicked it

[wicked blade]

Do people really think someone would gove them free money?

[cunning mesa]

[quaint lagoon]

Imagine though

[frail swallow]

Yes.

[cunning mesa]

yes

[wicked blade]

[wicked blade]

Bruh.

[quaint lagoon]

Why would someone on the Internet lie to someone though

[frail swallow]

Some people did not grow up through a time where you got scammed on Runescape as a dumb idiot kid who thinks some dude needs your account info to give you free stuff.

[cursive ruin]

i just imagined a lobby

[wicked blade]

Isn't Runescape one of those game which insentivises scamming?

@frail swallow

[cursive ruin]

behemoth: "1660+ only people with ssd"

[frail swallow]

No

[wicked blade]

What is SSD?

[fervent ibex]

Solid State Disk

[final sable]

Solid state drive

[wicked blade]

I KNOW WHAT IT IS

I mean in game

[quaint lagoon]

Xd

[fervent ibex]

.

[final sable]

Faster loading

[wicked blade]

Bruh

What the fuck

[quaint lagoon]

Probs means what it means irl

[wicked blade]

[final sable]

My 1tb ssd is cooked

[fervent ibex]

just curious, but how would any game incentivize scamming?

[final sable]

So i moved lost ark to my 500gig one

[wicked blade]

What was that

[final sable]

And loads things faster

[quaint lagoon]

Did anyone see that long ass sentence

[wicked blade]

Yes

[cursive ruin]

i was just singing gangnam style

[frank ridge]

you have lead arna

[wicked blade]

Don't know, wouldn't be surprised anymore from anything in Runescape

[quaint lagoon]

[cunning mesa]

im going to apply to that lobby

[wicked blade]

considering what devs did

[wicked blade]

Oh God...

Time to make lobby Behemont, 1660+ only with PCIe gen5 nvme ssd

[cursive ruin]

i have an m.2 can i still join

[quaint lagoon]

Didn't they do a poll asking if your account gets hacked but you paid for the monthly service your more likely to get it back would you subscribe to it

[wicked blade]

Is it gen 5 tho?

[cursive ruin]

no it's like gen 3

[wicked blade]

Denied.

[cursive ruin]

i load very quick

this game is just unoptimized

1:40 mins on m.2

brah

[cunning mesa]

no idea, im still loading in

[cursive ruin]

my friend is on hdd

[quaint lagoon]

Xd

[analog path]

you have m.2 or sata lost ark so stupid it still take 2 minutes

[cursive ruin]

we're cursed every run to watch full cutscene

[fervent ibex]

nah i dont think that was an official poll, it was player driven and kind of just like a facetious response to Jagex's terrible player support iirc

[analog path]

if you have hdd it just takes 5 minutes

[quaint lagoon]

Why though

[wicked blade]

CN version loads in 15-20s.
It is just our version
Also no FPS drops

[fervent ibex]

unless they recently actually polled it, that would be nuts though

[wicked blade]

AGS is incompetent as shit

[analog path]

wtf

i should just learn mandarin and become chinese then

[wicked blade]

I'm playing on CN

[cursive ruin]

laptop

[frail swallow]

EAC...unfortunately.

[cursive ruin]

no space on ssd for anything besides windows

[quaint lagoon]

Ah isee

[frail swallow]

Any game its attached to has a bit of a rough startup time

[cunning mesa]

lets hate on amazon

[cursive ruin]

true

[cunning mesa]

and smilegate

[cursive ruin]

paladins has eac, loading sucks

so does brawlhalla

[cunning mesa]

we need to be fair in our hating

[analog path]

yeah but there def are games that have decent load times with EAC

[frail swallow]

Halo MCC too

[analog path]

i don't see how loa take that much more compared to the ver without it

[frail swallow]

Fortnite as well

[analog path]

something funky is happening with loa

[frail swallow]

Its EAC + UE3

[wicked blade]

China uses ACE

[cursive ruin]

ue3 also isn't helping

[analog path]

so its worse when you specifically combine ue3 and eac

[cursive ruin]

the fact i can't upkeep 90 fps on vh in some areas is cancer

[frail swallow]

UE3 was fine for when it was current, but had its issues

[cunning mesa]

anti cheat easy (can i use your homework? sure but change it a bit)

[fervent ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/eac-gif-25601190

[wicked blade]

No, this is not UE3 problem.
If LOA CN is not UE4, that game runs smooth as butter.
220fps and no fps drops compared to 160fps and drops on West on my PC

[analog path]

is the eac used in loa just way too up to date and the actual game out of date, in terms of engine

[frail swallow]

Did not. Specify. It was only one thing.

[wicked blade]

I'm actually confused why CN version runs so much better

[frail swallow]

EAC can be a resource hog too

[wicked blade]

Why they don't just remove it

It is shit

[storm bronze]

Eac = Eos

[frail swallow]

Because its easily available

Lots of games use it

Lots

[wicked blade]

[storm bronze]

I have diarrhea

[wicked blade]

Lots of games with EAC are shit

Even Epic switched from EAC

[frail swallow]

They do indeed have problematic startup times and strange performance issues

[wicked blade]

And they make it

[frail swallow]

No they didn't. Fortnite is still running with EAC

[wicked blade]

Not anymore

[analog path]

fornite

[worldly hawk]

yes people are generally pretty stupid

[wicked blade]

They use Battle-Eye

Not EAC

They switched a while ago

[frail swallow]

Yes anymore. I quite literally booted the thing up the other day.

[storm bronze]

EAC = CCP

[frail swallow]

It launched with EAC

Battle-eye is a secondary

It uses both

[analog path]

wtf double anticheat

[frail swallow]

I had times where it would boot with battle-eye, but most of the time it boots with EAC

[analog path]

oh so its one of those

they are both installed but it gets to choose which one it wants

[frail swallow]

Mhmm

Likely at random

Believe me I'd prefer if it defaulted to battle-eye

[frail swallow]

It doesn't

[wicked blade]

When they switched to EAC

Or do they use both

[frail swallow]

They use both.

[wicked blade]

[frail swallow]

Thats what I said

[wicked blade]

Smart

[frail swallow]

I mean yeah, but also it still mostly defaults to EAC

[wicked blade]

I didn't see message

Yeah, EAC standalone is not that great

[frail swallow]

EAC for Lost Ark + it being UE3 is not a great combination

[storm bronze]

We should all cheat so no need to run anti cheat

[wicked blade]

But even with that, I think AGS can do a bit more otpimization on EAC side

[frail swallow]

So the startup time is doodoo

[wicked blade]

[quaint lagoon]

Do work you got me laughing bro

[wicked blade]

Honestly, idk why they don't just switch to ACE

[frail swallow]

I think a while back I saw a posting for an anti-cheat programmer so...

[wicked blade]

Oh that makes sense

Why CN version works better

[frail swallow]

Yeah its their inhouse one

[analog path]

tencent not fuckin around

[wicked blade]

Buy it AGS

[wicked blade]

When you have EAC running, ACE will say it detected other anti-cheat and refuses to run

[storm bronze]

I'm playing a tencent game and there's cheater every games

[worldly hawk]

because not every anti cheat is perfect

plus banning people instantly when they do something just helps them to figure out what got them banned in the first place, speeding up the process of circumvention

[wicked blade]

Valorant

Vanguard is too OP

[frail swallow]

Yeah because its wildly intrusive

[wicked blade]

Never caused a crash tho

[frail swallow]

And Fortnite is likely because of the dual anti-cheat thing

[wicked blade]

Riot should just licence it

And sell Vanguard to companies under NDA

[tulip charm]

it does?

how long does it take to load in?

[wicked blade]

15s

[tulip charm]

wtf???

[wicked blade]

Yup

I was mad

[tulip charm]

why we don't have this here

[wicked blade]

Cuz that costs money

[tulip charm]

they improved it to a 3min login recently, remb last year it was a 5min login

[wicked blade]

3m login in 2025

Okay bud

Yeah, CN version loads between 15-20s

[cunning mesa]

it ended my ranked i was winning for no reason xD

[wicked blade]

To the server selection

[cunning mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/557145596625158146/1327249997246496788/image.png?ex=679f6262&is=679e10e2&hm=8f2b5a6bf2b2905eba8ed06af6e3326b8f5652c3c83c2b9770d751ff46485505&

[analog path]

no mine was always 2 min 20

[wicked blade]

Hahahah

[analog path]

even in '23

[wicked blade]

I have nvme and it still takes 2m to load

It is awful

[analog path]

its always been 2 min afaik

[wicked blade]

No

[lunar hedge]

Weewooweewoo

[analog path]

but i can't say for year 1 because during that time i had a sata

[wicked blade]

In 2022 I waited more the 4min

[analog path]

wtf Lol

how long was gta V

[cursive ruin]

spot the issue in this picture

[wicked blade]

Set bonus?

[slender sky]

kaya sucks xdd

[cursive ruin]

yeah he has yearning lv2

[wicked blade]

Wtf why

[cursive ruin]

he leveled it without pass and forgot

[wicked blade]

[worldly hawk]

[wicked blade]

@worldly hawk Good morning

[worldly hawk]

it's 10pm

[wicked blade]

https://tenor.com/view/vsauce-michael-or-is-it-gif-19808095

[indigo flax]

i have 180k in mats

idk if i should sell or keep

[wicked blade]

Only 180k?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/939064756889866252.webp?size=128&animated=true

[indigo flax]

most ive had

i usually sell after the weeks over

[wicked blade]

1/10 of cost of 1670 to 1680

[indigo flax]

but leaps are @ 105

rn

[wicked blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/939064756889866252.webp?size=128&animated=true

[indigo flax]

thats ok

im only 1660

still havent learned aegir

[wicked blade]

Yeah... You will need a lot to hone to 1670

I spent 550+k

[wicked blade]

Is it NAW?

[indigo flax]

anyways that doesnt answer my question

sell or keep

ya

NAW

[wicked blade]

RMT region lol

Wait Wildsoul

End of February

[indigo flax]

i was thinking the same thing

[wicked blade]

Prices should go up

And sell

Yeah

[indigo flax]

cause by the time i push for 1670 for brel nm

i should have enough for bound honing

maybe

[wicked blade]

Hahahahha

No.

You won't have enough for bound honing

Not even close

[indigo flax]

i wont have enough blues

i should have leaps tho

[wicked blade]

You won't have enough reds

Enjoy 2k per tap

[worldly hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-vsauce-or-is-it-gif-25517943

[indigo flax]

depends if i hit tho

😏

[wicked blade]

If u pity once

U will be set back month of farming bounds

[indigo flax]

i have about 1/3 of the stuff

[wicked blade]

Income of T4 mats is awful rn

[indigo flax]

if i hone in like 3-4 months

ill be ok

💀

[wicked blade]

I wanted to think that aswell

[indigo flax]

i still have to learn aegir n stuff n get all my chars geared

[wicked blade]

[indigo flax]

yea but i hit.

[wicked blade]

So did I

Onetapped 3 armors and weapon

And then pitied 2 pieces

[nova garden]

punched down my dough and now time to wait another 45 minutes

[wicked blade]

And that set me back 2 months of farming

[indigo flax]

i mean worse comes to worse

ill swipe

not like im playing with friends anymore

[wicked blade]

[indigo flax]

they quit

💀

[wicked blade]

For a good reason

Save yourself

[indigo flax]

stop being a doomer 💀

[wicked blade]

I'm being real

T4 is abnoxious

[indigo flax]

im sure ill be ok

[wicked blade]

They surely nerf AH 1-10

[indigo flax]

i generate like 200-400k a week

so

if i need to get more

ill swipe

if im only honing 1 char

[wicked blade]

So you just need 15 weeks 1660-1680

[quartz turret]

[indigo flax]

[wicked blade]

Nah, someone at SG is braindamaged

U can't convince me otherwise

AH 1-10 is bullshit

[indigo flax]

maybe u just got scammed

[wicked blade]

Yeah, sure

[burnt tree]

AH21-40 is BS cause it gives yooge stat bonus

[wicked blade]

Enjoy AH

U will love it

[indigo flax]

really?

prob

i dont really complain

not like i can go to any other mmorpg n have a good time either

outside of ffxiv or wow

[burnt tree]

They added a bonus boost once you reach AH 30 and 40

[wicked blade]

Once u reach

[tulip charm]

this should get a gold cost nerf, even 11>20 should get a gold cost nerf, it might be incoming with that gunlancer mountaineering club guy quitting on kr, if they complain hard enough we might see this

[tawny lion]

i log in 1-2x a week now this game is cooked. tapering down

[burnt tree]

Lmfao yeah never

[indigo flax]

idk i just play

i dont stress about honing up

[burnt tree]

Unless they nerf 1-20 cause Inven is on fire

[wicked blade]

Yeah, if KR complains enough we get changes

[burnt tree]

And no one likes AH in the current state of the game

[wicked blade]

It is so ass

[burnt tree]

Also locking 11-20 scroll behind Act 3

[wicked blade]

????????????

WOT

[indigo flax]

💀

[burnt tree]

Even if we will probably get them from events too

Yeah 11-20 AH scroll was added in the new raid

[wicked blade]

And how do I get those 1-10 scrolls?

That I need

[burnt tree]

Pray

[wicked blade]

I only have 12 left

Wdym pray

[quaint lagoon]

I said this like 1-2 days ago

[burnt tree]

Maybe Act 3 NM drops 1-10

Didn't check NM runs

[tulip charm]

thats the only way, we get those trickle down changes only if they complain hard enough, they don't give a sht about the complaint on NAw

[wicked blade]

Isn't that ilvl 1680 raid?

The fuck

[burnt tree]

Yup

[wicked blade]

BUT I NEED 1-10 TO REACH 1680

What is that logic

[burnt tree]

Tbh 1-20 should have been nerfed when 21-40 was added but yeah

We will see

[wicked blade]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-ark-gif-24898366

[burnt tree]

This gonna sound crazy but AGS should nerf it regardless of KRs complains about Regional Favouritism

[tulip charm]

why isn't it nerfed, dosn't make any sense since they got advanced 21>40 now

also does kr have ah scrolls for 11+?

[wicked blade]

Yeah, surely AGS has balls like Tencent

[burnt tree]

They probably thought adding an 11-20 scroll would be enough

[wicked blade]

Not even close

[fervent ibex]

cuz they're stingy, greedy fucks, and their idea of nerfs is the 1-10 scrolls

[wicked blade]

*limited scrolls

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/939064756889866252.webp?size=128&animated=true

[burnt tree]

But having to do 1-40 AH at this point in T4 is just insane om

[fervent ibex]

did KR already calculate when its "worth" to do 21-40?

is it gonna be like at +20?

[quaint lagoon]

Like I said yesterday or the day before echi hard and aegir normal should drop 1-10 and aegir hard and brel normal should drop 11-20

[burnt tree]

Pretty sure 21-40 takes priority

[quaint lagoon]

Honing help scrolls

[burnt tree]

Because of the AH set bonus they added

[quaint lagoon]

From the beginning

[wicked blade]

If they give 1-10 scrolls on 1680 raid and I need 1-10 scrolls to reach 1680...

Literally what the fuck

[burnt tree]

It increases your armor/weapon stats by like 10% on top of the hones or something like that

So there's no "optimal" point

You just do it

[fervent ibex]

how long does it take to complete? is it 8-10 weeks like Echidna?

[quaint lagoon]

Trust guys korea devs gonna cook to keep player base happy

[wicked blade]

Surely

[burnt tree]

NM drops 21-30 mats, HM 31-40

[wicked blade]

I will move to CN to play LOA on 10ms

[burnt tree]

Should be similar to Echidna yeah

[wicked blade]

I swear to God

[burnt tree]

10ms?

[wicked blade]

Ping

I have 250ms now

[quaint lagoon]

Holy 1yr progress no way

[burnt tree]

Oh i thought you meant 1000

Since its NM

CN***

Damn autocorrect

[wicked blade]

Bro, we have 250ms from here

[burnt tree]

OM

[cunning mesa]

punch deez

[quaint lagoon]

[wicked blade]

I wish that they nerf 1-10 AH

So I can get to 1680

[burnt tree]

1-20 should be nerfed no excuses

[quaint lagoon]

Take your 10 event scrolls peasant and farm the fields

[wicked blade]

[worldly hawk]

[wicked blade]

They can suck it

[burnt tree]

Scrolls don't make much of a difference

[quaint lagoon]

That's the point

[burnt tree]

You use them with juice and pray

[quaint lagoon]

A lord never gives enough to his subjects

Gotta revolt

[wicked blade]

Nerf fucking gold cost

[worldly hawk]

@wicked blade

[wicked blade]

It is insane

[quaint lagoon]

Just bus bro

Shits easy

[wicked blade]

Why would anyone buy gold from F4 shop instead of RMT now
With prices and inflation, gold u buy is worthless

[quaint lagoon]

Need more event stuff to buy

[wicked blade]

And don't let me start with books

[fervent ibex]

honestly the gold cost wasnt too bad, it was meant to be cheaper than like T3 +21 or something, but transferring upto T4 and costing the same amount of materials, despite the in-game ratio being 1:5 was crazy

[burnt tree]

Anniversary event shop and 0 orehas

[wicked blade]

That is actually true

And T4 mats are actually scarse

Like omega scarse

[quaint lagoon]

Yeah if it was /5 it would still be annoying but atleast you don't feel fucked for not doing it

[slender sky]

they didnt even touch normal honing to 1620 yet and you guys are fantasizing about nerfs on advanced honing

[quaint lagoon]

Real

What would a human be if not for his dreams

[wicked blade]

Nah, when KR stops spending as much, they will listen

Which is soonge

[quaint lagoon]

I mean all it takes is the first whale group to be you know what this is a it to much

And the other whale group will be like on no our only whale competition is leaving

[queen grail]

Maybe money

[quaint lagoon]

Then dominos

[queen grail]

Lowest on market is 120k

[quaint lagoon]

Damn

I'll take that

[wicked blade]

Well

The guild is quiting

And they are like Asmongols of KR

[queen grail]

Tiny corpa

50k

[slender sky]

keep rolling

next roll is outgoing damage

trust

[fervent ibex]

only 1 of the whales is outright quitting, the others are going casual (no longer doing First Clear races), and another one is going military service so he's on break

they still have like 3 CEO level spenders among them lol

and i think all of them were Esther owners

[neon cedar]

Someone listed the same neck as mine for 1 mil If it sells maybe I should sell mine

[quaint lagoon]

Ah your na can't beg for it

[wicked blade]

That will cause domino reaction

Don't worry

[cosmic flame]

eh

[fervent ibex]

you'd think so, but Koreans are obtuse

[cosmic flame]

not really

[fervent ibex]

its not gonna do shit

[wicked blade]

We shall see

[cosmic flame]

1 whale funds the game for 10k players that are f2p

[wicked blade]

LOA great game with huge potential run into the ground by braindead fucks

[cosmic flame]

how so

buisness standpoint they're mega winning rn lmfao

[quaint lagoon]

^

[cosmic flame]

game bad does not equal

game dying

[wicked blade]

Everything has its limit

[fervent ibex]

even while CptJack was ranting and got that huge inven post, there was no indication that he would stop playing lol they're willing to continue eating shit long before they realize it smells bad

[cosmic flame]

loa isn't nearing that limit

cus they don't interact with fans

when they're raging

[neon cedar]

LOA was still listed in the gold tier of revenue on steam on the yearly review thing. Its far from going anywhere

[cosmic flame]

and what fans have? fish memory

[wicked blade]

It is only silver.

[cosmic flame]

2 weeks and yall forget about them

[quaint lagoon]

Forget who

[cosmic flame]

anything bad sg does

1 free skins and some feathers

[neon cedar]

You say "Only" like it isnt beating hundreds of thousands of games with bigger names

[cosmic flame]

and yall go back to glazing

[quaint lagoon]

Was playing along 😔

[wicked blade]

Warframe is Gold, PoE2 is good...

[cosmic flame]

so no, buisness wise loa isn't even nearing being dead

loa makes way more than poe2

why is that

whales

simple

[wicked blade]

Lost Ark was Platinum last year 100+m, and they dropped to Silver 50-75m in a year

[neon cedar]

? Does cherry picking a handful of better performing games change anything? no

[cosmic flame]

just like how genshin made 10b+ profits when gtav made 8b in its lifetime

[neon cedar]

Its not COD levels of income dead game

[fervent ibex]

where do u guys see like steam "rankings" for revenue? i see the Top Selling chart

[queen grail]

And.

[cosmic flame]

you can't make the math for loa sadly

[wicked blade]

There is section on home page

Not sure how is it called

[cosmic flame]

cus you don't directly buy from them I think

[wicked blade]

Huh?

[queen grail]

1660 Support.

In Aegir.

My guy, HUH??

[wicked blade]

You buy everything in LOA through steam

[wicked blade]

That is legendary?

[queen grail]

Full AP

[cosmic flame]

does it count if you buy rc? I'm not really sure

[wicked blade]

5 books?

[cosmic flame]

could be

[queen grail]

It's legendary 5 yes.

[wicked blade]

It does

[queen grail]

He has not gotten full legendary.

[wicked blade]

Bro, what

Lmao

Didn't we get like shitton of books?

[queen grail]

My guy is actually griefing.

Holy 🦆

[wicked blade]

[neon cedar]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/bestof2024

[cosmic flame]

loa is at 56 @fervent ibex

[queen grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2rx-IjmmDQ @neon cedar Hi, can you buy this for me? Thanks.

[wicked blade]

🐳

[neon cedar]

Buy it, I cant even read it

[fervent ibex]

next to ffxiv a bit wild

[queen grail]

The chair.

[cursive ruin]

does only behemoth have the "continue the raid" button instead of proceed gate

[queen grail]

I want the chair.

[cursive ruin]

or do other raids do

[queen grail]

The woman is optional @neon cedar

[cursive ruin]

used?

[neon cedar]

We can circle jerk eachother all day about dead game but its making bank. Its not going anywhere anytime soon

[queen grail]

I want the chair.

[cursive ruin]

answer me

[fervent ibex]

yeah i wasnt saying it was either lol i think LOAs sticking around for a bit, and even longer in KR

[neon cedar]

[slender sky]

whoever says loa is nearing eos business wise should get mentally examined coz they might be eligible for a disability certificate

[queen grail]

As long as It's clean and in good condition used is ok'ish but I'd rather want a new one.

[cosmic flame]

keep in mind this is for 20k players

[neon cedar]

You can have the Aegir bus I can have a cute gf and nice sweater

[cosmic flame]

now do the math for over 200k in kr and the CN version

[next harbor]

what’s up with seeing so many doomposters surrounding loa? I don’t get it. yea game is nowhere where it used to be player numbers wise, but it’s still one of the biggest earners on steam?? do people just WANT it to be over or what?

[cosmic flame]

idc about dooming, people are allowed to doom all they want

I just hate wrong takes

[queen grail]

She is super cute that's true.

[cosmic flame]

that are also stupid

[wicked blade]

Not gonna lie CN version is much better then ours

[uncut dirge]

well the trouble with anything like this is that it works with downward spirals

[cosmic flame]

and not based on any numbers

[uncut dirge]

by the time the numbers are bad enough it's usually unrecoverable

[slender sky]

ppl are dumb and addicted

[wicked blade]

If I had normal ping I would switch to CN

[cosmic flame]

I can play cn if I want

I'd get around 120-190 max

[fervent ibex]

yeah thats what was mind boggling to me, FFXIV probably spend less (mostly just on cosmetics and yearly expansions), but they also have like 1m players whenever a new expac comes out

[cosmic flame]

very playable

[fervent ibex]

the fact that 20k players are keeping them on even grounds

is crazy

[uncut dirge]

i'd like to be able to raid without spending hours in party finder

[wicked blade]

I'm on 250ms

[neon cedar]

Do you know chinese? how are you even navigating the game

[cosmic flame]

250 is playable

slap on exitlag

[wicked blade]

I do

[cosmic flame]

and you're good to go

[wicked blade]

Alright, gonna do that

Game is much better optimized

[cosmic flame]

should give u a 7 day trial

[neon cedar]

Oh then easy

[wicked blade]

It is funny

[cosmic flame]

u can check

I remember playing OCE servers in apex

without exitlag I have 400ms

with it I have around 200ms

major difference

[wicked blade]

Easy then

Gonna main CN

[slender sky]

until they figure out youre a foreigner and blacklist your ass from any lobby in existence

[uncut dirge]

huh

[cosmic flame]

he speaks mandarin

[uncut dirge]

i wonder if exitlag has some kind of routing through russia then

[cosmic flame]

its because of the routing

I mean

[wicked blade]

I know a bit of mandarin

Enought to have convo with people

And navigate

[cosmic flame]

the closer the continent is, the less major results u have

[uncut dirge]

cause typical european routing to asia goes through the US

[cosmic flame]

but since Aussie are so far from me

my routing gets fucked without exitlag

[uncut dirge]

but through russia is way less distance

[wicked blade]

Yeah, this is annoying me

[uncut dirge]

but usually routing through russia is borked in some way

[wicked blade]

115ms NA

[uncut dirge]

or well, some countries there

[wicked blade]

300ms CN

Like bruh

[uncut dirge]

like my ping to japan/china should be the same as to east coast US

but it's like 3x that

[cosmic flame]

I miss living in my parents house

I'd get playable ping

on any server of my choosing

I can never reach 200ms no matter what server I play

[tulip charm]

i think 2023/24 was year of doomers, its like the cool thing to do, to lurk on discord/reddit to spam "dead game" on a game they haven't played over a year

[uncut dirge]

the situation looks pretty bleak to me

[tulip charm]

your just seeing the dregs/reminents of it, it use to be alot worse, but some people started calling them out

[neon cedar]

ok prog time

[uncut dirge]

i'm 1680 but hard aegir is impossible to get into

and the advice i get is to get RMT levels of gems basically

[tulip charm]

that raid still have supp shortage ye

[uncut dirge]

because they accumulated gems during the time they were cheap and gold was plentiful

[cosmic flame]

supp shortage = pvp for dps in pf

no one will take you unless you're omega juiced

so that a sup would apply

[wicked blade]

@cosmic flame That is not bad

[uncut dirge]

well, it's not just that

[cosmic flame]

try the trial first

[uncut dirge]

also the talk around the game assumes, in my opinion, unhealthy levels of gear

as "standard"

[wicked blade]

I don't see trial on website

[uncut dirge]

which is reasonable if you've been accumulating gold/gems for 3 years

[cosmic flame]

pretty sure it gave one

[uncut dirge]

but if you haven't then you're basically just told to sit out

[cosmic flame]

full 7s is fine and accepted by almost all lobbies

unless they have like 8s. most will take what they have themselves

[uncut dirge]

but even full 7s is very pricey

more expensive than honing to 1680

[cosmic flame]

well

[uncut dirge]

but ultimately you're gonna have to get both

[cosmic flame]

don't hone to 1680 before having full 7s

[uncut dirge]

that doesn't make sense

[cosmic flame]

thats known by almost everyone

[uncut dirge]

no

[cosmic flame]

it does

[uncut dirge]

that's bad advice

[cosmic flame]

becasue you look like a rat if not

of course no one will take you

[cursive ruin]

imma be honest

[cosmic flame]

almost all 1680s have at least 7s

[uncut dirge]

there is absolutely no logical reason to do that

[cursive ruin]

pug behe without at least 1 park passive in party kinda sucks

[uncut dirge]

so you can choose to hone to 1680 or to buy level 7 gems

scenario 1: you buy gems, but now you're still 1660 and can't get into the better raids

[cursive ruin]

you hone 1680 right now before leapstones go up 30g overnight

[uncut dirge]

scenario 2: you hone, now you're 1680 and get into the lower raids more easily

[uncut dirge]

but yes, this is what i'm talking about

and i think if this attitude stays that player count numbers gonna drop even more

[cursive ruin]

or if ur an NA player, sell 5m in accessories and sidereal energies overnight and do both

[cosmic flame]

press alt q

go to aegir hm

check people gems

[uncut dirge]

it doesn't matter what i check

the expectation is unreasonable for anyone that started on ignite or came back with it

[cursive ruin]

both sides of this argument make very compelling points

[uncut dirge]

and party finder hell is like the #1 way to make someone quit

[cosmic flame]

which is why I always say

[uncut dirge]

yes, people that have played since the start

[cursive ruin]

aerron is saying if you hone to 1680 you're gonna join older raids easier, then get gems later
yorgh is saying get gems because 1680 with no gems wont do the newest raid

more in favor of the former i must say

[mystic basin]

gg

[uncut dirge]

and accumulated 3 years worth of gems and gold are gonna have way better gear, nothing you can do about it

[mystic basin]

we didnt clear

[cosmic flame]

if you're a new or a retune find a static or a guild

[mystic basin]

[uncut dirge]

btu when that's the standard it's too much

[cursive ruin]

cleared this exact moment if it makes u feel better