#lost-ark-discussions
thorn sluice
obtuse oyster
he's 1659 
thorny olive
1680/1700
thorn sluice
ah damn i've read 1669
thorn sluice
he's 1659 <:weirdWonky:881513045879312384>
tulip charm
I am waiting for this too, imagine rats at 1640 have access to 1 point of the 4th tier, will never be gatekept at behe/echida ever again, might be copium
thorn sluice
I am waiting for this too, imagine rats at 1640 have access to 1 point of the 4t...
so much copium
uncut dirge
I am waiting for this too, imagine rats at 1640 have access to 1 point of the 4t...
they will
people will say they gatekeep because they're rats, but that's not really true
the goal is to gatekeep the bottom X% of players
meager hill
I am waiting for this too, imagine rats at 1640 have access to 1 point of the 4t...
ultra copium
thorny olive
Gatekeep anyone below 1660
supple parrot
Gatekeep anyone below 1660
This tbh
meager hill
gatekeep anyone below 120 evo
supple parrot
Soon it will be gatekeep anyone below 1680 
final sable
thorny olive
gatekeep anyone below 120 evo
!
uncut dirge
if you really need 130m dps minimum for brel hard
supple parrot
nm and hm brel more like 1680/1700
Which is why said the standard is 1700 main and 1680 alts
uncut dirge
then it might even be reasonable to gatekeep brel normal to above 1680+
final sable
if u have statics its 1670/1690
tulip charm
I am sure you guys have alot of relic acc you self cut that’s decent but not worth selling, but slightly too good to self mail dismantle either, just mail those to gear up the lopangs once this update comes through
final sable
imma just have 1 brel hm and 1 brel nm
meager hill
then it might even be reasonable to gatekeep brel normal to above 1680+
the nm dps is much lower, you're just going to compete with 1680s which are much more powerful
final sable
and hone from 1660 as the week progresses
uncut dirge
the nm dps is much lower, you're just going to compete with 1680s which are much...
why is it much lower
isn't normal hp just half of hard
meager hill
it just is
final sable
1680s have ancient accs
final sable
which gives more points
supple parrot
1680 full ancient or decline
final sable
as supposed to 1670s having relic
supple parrot
cursive ruin
i remember one time when we used to do kaya
uncut dirge
it just is
you gotta be a bit more specific
cursive ruin
we were 3 premade and 1 random
the random joined, went "wait i'm on chaos set" then voted to leave
leader kicked him cuz he didn't know there wasn armor station after the dungeon
meager hill
gatekeep anyone without +25, what are these poor bozos doing in my lobbies
cursive ruin
past ginkgo
Brel NM is surely 1680
meager hill
brel nm is 1670
stark sky
brel nm is 1680 or bring a friend
tulip charm
Brel NM is surely 1680
It basicly is
uncut dirge
if you need to have 65m dps it makes sense
tulip charm
If you keep a char at 1670 your basicly self gimping
final sable
honing my dps to 1680 is bait
pally with wildsoul pass then female pally when that comes out
supple parrot
I dont think there is gonna be a sup shortage for nm brel
supple parrot
If anything will br a surplus
past ginkgo
Surely you will need 1700
thorny olive
1690 is pointless
past ginkgo
People won't take you on item level
final sable
my statics need sups
meager hill
act3 is 1680
final sable
1690 is pointless
so what ur telling me is this game is pointless
if im not 1740 should uninstall
thorny olive
Yes
final sable
past ginkgo
Easy game
supple parrot
Just park at 1640 and play 30 chars like net
thorny olive
we are fine for next nm raid after brel
Ya, but next nm is 1680
Hm 1700
1690 is a bait
thorny olive
fund me to 1740 <@97435016799207424>
Nyo I'm wasting my gold on 1670s
swift magnet
final sable
if i didnt have to mainswap
thorny olive
Behemoth is a stink raid anyway
final sable
id prob have like 4 1680s
thorny olive
If I didn't hone my Aya to 1690 I'd probably have 4 1680s
tulip charm
Ya, but next nm is 1680
Hm 1700
1690 is a bait
Your gonna have alot of guys going into hm at 1690, I don’t think you need 1700 for hm, its preferred sure, but at 1690 gems/relic engraving matters more
final sable
If I didn't hone my Aya to 1690 I'd probably have 4 1680s
same
except my artist was 1545
with no upper t3 mats
swift magnet
Your gonna have alot of guys going into hm at 1690, I don’t think you need 1700 ...
relic engr.
💀
tulip charm
If you want max efficiency on main it’s 18 armor all, whatever weapon you can afford, quokka already have the 18all armor ages ago, nice luck…
thorny olive
Your gonna have alot of guys going into hm at 1690, I don’t think you need 1700 ...
I mean raid after brel.
It's 1680/1700 ilvl
thorny olive
1690 is actually kinda pointless 
swift magnet
we ehave 3 months after brel
nah ags will make it 12 months after brel to enforce fomo
final sable
nah ags will make it 12 months after brel to enforce fomo
games gonna be dead after brel
brel nm killed ppl
uncut dirge
if it's 12 months there won't be fomot ho
swift magnet
thorny olive
Nono, if they make it 3 months everyone's gonna need to buy mats to hone
tulip charm
games gonna be dead after brel
It might actually become like that, not trying to doom, but we are almost caught up to kr content
uncut dirge
guys i have a great idea
swift magnet
now brel 2.0
kazeros will fight with bots
uncut dirge
cancel brel hard release
only release brel normal
then 5 months later release brel hard
tulip charm
And kr have very very slow new raid releases
uncut dirge
next raid after that is another 5m onths away
past ginkgo
Brel was the worst thing to happen to the game true xd
final sable
brel legit made a llot of ppl quit already
past ginkgo
That shit killed half the playerbase back then
final sable
ive seen it happen in my friend groups
obtuse oyster
That shit killed half the playerbase back then
that was clown
tulip charm
past ginkgo
People just burned out from Brel
Can't blame em
I switched static twice in that time period
tulip charm
I wasn’t able to do g6 Brel for over a month, I still did 1-5s
empty sleet
then they went and took the fun parts of the raid out
thorny olive
that was clown
Clown was fun :(
past ginkgo
then they went and took the fun parts of the raid out
No worst thing was, we did that shit 7 months
uncut dirge
no it wasn't
past ginkgo
Just to do it again.. on HM
empty sleet
and now brel has like 3 mechanics
obtuse oyster
Clown was fun :(
fun when your group isn't deficit in the hands or brains department
swift magnet
that was clown
ptsd on ilvl but fun raid
tulip charm
clown was fun @ ilvl on jumpstart server
I thought by that point kaku got cn nerfed to the point the boss heals you already
thorny olive
then they went and took the fun parts of the raid out
They nerfed the easy stuff like shapes in brel G2(old G3) xD
uncut dirge
anything with delayed damage was very annoying to play on clown
obtuse oyster
ptsd on ilvl but fun raid
g3 man, istg
final sable
I thought by that point kaku got cn nerfed to the point the boss heals you alrea...
we didnt get the tank saw nerf yet
u could tank it
empty sleet
i never got to kite colored orbs in vykas and im sad
final sable
but not at ilvl
uncut dirge
because half of clown's patterns make him immune to damage or make him disappear
final sable
when u tell the pugs to hold dps at 95 bars
empty sleet
clown on sorc
thorny olive
i never got to kite colored orbs in vykas and im sad
That was fun, but people struggled with timing and a lot of times they kited an orb in the moment it changed color which resulted in wipe
final sable
and they proceed to tap it to 92
swift magnet
g3 man, istg
all emchs overlapping before mario xD
final sable
G_G
tulip charm
Wait a minute… I just realized
obtuse oyster
all emchs overlapping before mario xD
and then getting in low damage groups so you had to do the fucking hp reversals xD
thorny olive
because half of clown's patterns make him immune to damage or make him disappear
Thaemine isn't much better
uncut dirge
Thaemine isn't much better
i think it's a lot better
tulip charm
uncut dirge
but what also helps is that delayed damage isn't as delayed these days
compared to back then
final sable
the hardest part of m3
final sable
was the first jump
uncut dirge
doomsday drops like a full second faster, arcana's evoke explodes more than a second faster
obtuse oyster
was the first jump
m3 was a cake walk
final sable
if u died in m1
tulip charm
I’ve done m1-3, but never done m4 yet
swift magnet
i always did m4. i think it was easy and fun. but somehow ppl were scared of m4
uncut dirge
m4 was easier than m3
but you did have to do it a few times
because it was the only one with multiple paths
tulip charm
i always did m4. i think it was easy and fun. but somehow ppl were scared of m4
Actually alot of people were scared of m2 for some reason, so I ended up doing that one the most
uncut dirge
and you had to use the rotation mechanic to actually find the balls you had to destroy
final sable
i did m2 also
swift magnet
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288> if u died in m1
my 1st try. jumped off to the left xD
supple parrot
Its all ez. U can literally practice it in trixion since day 1 
thorny olive
i think it's *a lot* better
No he's just gonna go throw saws or perma target you throwing at you
obtuse oyster
Its all ez. U can literally practice it in trixion since day 1 <:Weirdga:9052130...
yet the dog shit playerbase couldn't do m3 or m4
final sable
my 1st try. jumped off to the left xD
i forgot that spacebar wasnt jump and ran off a ledge
swift magnet
i forgot that spacebar wasnt jump and ran off a ledge
thorny olive
yet the dog shit playerbase couldn't do m3 or m4
M3 was easy on swift classes like support
cursive ruin
bro what is this
tulip charm
i forgot that spacebar wasnt jump and ran off a ledge
We’ve all done this, i remb failing Mario 1 also the first time I did it …
thorny olive
XD
obtuse oyster
M3 was easy on swift classes like support
fr
cursive ruin
one time i tried to jump with G and died
final sable
We’ve all done this, i remb failing Mario 1 also the first time I did it …
the best was when my friend failed m1
cursive ruin
M3 was easy on swift classes like support
yeah the fact movement speed wasn't equalized was really dumb
thorny olive
yeah the fact movement speed wasn't equalized was really dumb
Ya
final sable
he went in and forgot he did not have the arrow keys
cuz smol keyboard
and timed out
LOL
tulip charm
i used to do m3 with artillerist
I don’t think people remb this, but back then artilerist and summoner had 10second spacebars
wintry depot
i had 11 on bard
tulip charm
Just imagine having a 10second spacebar
wintry depot
even with full swift
cursive ruin
I don’t think people remb this, but back then artilerist and summoner had 10seco...
i don't get it
thorny olive
Bard used to have giga slow spacebar
cursive ruin
you can't press W but every 10 seconsd or what
lunar hedge
A slow fuck class doesn't make it any better
cursive ruin
this doesn't seem relevant
final sable
Just imagine having a 10second spacebar
auto 1 stack in albion for the spacebar ones
lunar hedge
thorny olive
It was slower than artist for a long time
final sable
in thaemine
tulip charm
even with full swift
Wat, I thought bard always had a 6sex spacebar
thorny olive
Ye
wintry depot
i think base now is 8sec ?
supple parrot
Just imagine having a 10second spacebar
Literally doesnt matter on arti. U can tank everything
supple parrot
thorny olive
i think base now is 8sec ?
It's same as artist now
wintry depot
yet still can't get QoL on branding and mana cost
i dont oom that much on standing striker actually
lunar hedge
aero spacebar with z has gotten me killed
Aero WF Z spacebar goes WEEEEE
wintry depot
and i ahve more cdr, i have ms relic books
lunar hedge
thorny olive
Aero WF Z spacebar goes WEEEEE
She fly
thorny olive
surelly they remove mana
Wdym that would make slayer a playable class, we cant have that, no, she needs to suffer from insane mana issues
final sable
i heard it wasnt as bad
frank ridge
tulip charm
honing to 1680
It’s hard, but doable, 15,16 is 8% hit chance
tulip charm
Bounds only also
final sable
1670>1680 cost me more gold than 1680>1690 on my artist
tulip charm
Must be a very blessed artist rng then
final sable
yup
only 1 piece saw over 50% AE
everything else was 1 or 2 chaos into loadshards and tap
past ginkgo
Wdym that would make slayer a playable class, we cant have that, no, she needs t...
They need to fix pred exhaust first
Still shit
Legit the worst thing about this entire spec
final sable
spent 2 weeks at 1660-1680
and 1 week at 1680>1690
wait it was 3 weeks at 1660>1680
had 2 piece going into hm aegir
tulip charm
They need to fix pred exhaust first
It seems decent right now, but this felt really really shit at kaya and cubes from what I remb
Predator slayer at kaya was worst design by far
thorny olive
They need to fix pred exhaust first
Yeah, I mean, fucking cube in itself is unplayable
past ginkgo
It seems decent right now, but this felt really really shit at kaya and cubes fr...
Yeah locked behind 4th enlightenment node... so pre 1680 still garbage
cosmic flame
Wait waiy
wicked blade
What the f are those people in Argeos
cosmic flame
Wait
wicked blade
Nobody destorys the orb
meager hill
cosmic flame
U can’t cancel pred unless u put points in a node?
thorny olive
U can’t cancel pred unless u put points in a node?
meager hill
easy money
thorny olive
thorny olive
Slayer ark passive below 1680 is completely cursed
cosmic flame
Like soul fist or SH or any other class
tulip charm
create the problem and invent the solution at 1680
Is it? My lopang slayers is pretty strong
Idk what the 4th tier talent even is, it’s still on t3 system
cosmic flame
Yes my 1490 lopang slayers very broken
thorn sluice
What the f are those people in Argeos
obtuse oyster
Yes my 1490 lopang slayers very broken
very broken when I do chaos dungeon
supple parrot
Just hone to 1680
tulip charm
tulip charm
Yes my 1490 lopang slayers very broken
Wait, your lopang is not 1640?
cosmic flame
I should’ve named one of my souleaters
tulip charm
cosmic flame
Rice eater
cosmic flame
Wait, your lopang is not 1640?
Not all
thorny olive
very broken when I do chaos dungeon <:wahoo:1288727601032204288>
Fun fact, my slayer had mana issues in T3 chaos xD
Ran max mp on her
cursive ruin
Fun fact, my slayer had mana issues in T3 chaos xD
pick up the wind orb
gives you like 300% mana rec
thorny olive
All I see are defense orbs
cursive ruin
there are like 5 orbs that spawn in each stage
u just walk over them
and u get mana rec
thorny olive
Oh I thought u meant drops of ether
cursive ruin
thorny olive
and u get mana rec
Yes ik, but they expire and won't trigger until you leave and walk back on
It's giga cursed
T3 chaos sucked
past ginkgo
Slayer stays 1640
tulip charm
pick up the wind orb
It’s kinda wierd in t3 people say drops of ether is decent, yet NOBODy Ran the engraving, but in t4 drops engraving was high for a long time
thorny olive
Slayer stays 1640
Poor slayer
past ginkgo
I might replace her with female paladin anyways
cursive ruin
It’s kinda wierd in t3 people say drops of ether is decent, yet NOBODy Ran the e...
i'm not talking about drops of ether dumbo
i'm talking about the wind orb t3 chaos spawns
it looks like a portal
obtuse oyster
It’s kinda wierd in t3 people say drops of ether is decent, yet NOBODy Ran the e...
t4 you don't have a class engraving take up a slot so what else are you gonna run
thorny olive
thorny olive
t4 you don't have a class engraving take up a slot so what else are you gonna ru...
Heavy armor
velvet estuary
It’s kinda wierd in t3 people say drops of ether is decent, yet NOBODy Ran the e...
Yeah its weird. Almost like nightmare existed and t4 added another engraving slot
obtuse oyster
t3 you can make a case in not running it because you're giving up something else for it
velvet estuary
🤔
swift magnet
t4 you don't have a class engraving take up a slot so what else are you gonna ru...
i take max mp and magick over etehr. hate that
cursive ruin
this is just getting ridiculous
tulip charm
Did all supports drop vph in t4 or something?
cursive ruin
actual subhuman
indigo flax
thorny olive
Did all supports drop vph in t4 or something?
No raid needs it
cursive ruin
pug paladins
obtuse oyster
No raid needs it
this
swift magnet
Did all supports drop vph in t4 or something?
you dont have raids for vph
cosmic flame
Did all supports drop vph in t4 or something?
no
swift magnet
except maybe stagger party g1 mommy
indigo flax
Or bus
wintry depot
i dropped it in t3
cosmic flame
except maybe stagger party g1 mommy
not even that
thorny olive
And in T4 all support suffers mana issues so they use MaxMP + MS
And if you're a heavy armor user no spot for vph/drops
cosmic flame
people are just ass in doing stagger
tulip charm
this is just getting ridiculous
Don’t hate, his using the best set in the game
cosmic flame
only need for vph is for bussing as mr t said
obtuse oyster
people are just ass in doing stagger
gotta hold my skills for dmg 
cursive ruin
"i'm saving my skills for after stag, other people will do the stagging"
buzz lightyear clone meme
cosmic flame
gotta hold my skills for dmg <:Clueless:1043239065790717952>
ok goblin u play gs u still floor
wintry depot
I run in on my artist but she’s not in ap yet
magick stream is just superior
tulip charm
"i'm saving my skills for after stag, other people will do the stagging"
buzz li...
You sound like a se main
wintry depot
or youre not playing ha i guess
cosmic flame
HUH
obtuse oyster
ok goblin u play gs u still floor
all you're getting is a cata and two shotgun skills 
thorny olive
magick stream is just superior
MS best
cursive ruin
You sound like a se main
i don't save skills
thorny olive
Yeah old build 4x3 2 2
Spirit artist
indigo flax
Yea
tulip charm
The moment a stagger bar appears se players don’t press any skills for the next 20 seconds
cosmic flame
all you're getting is a cata and two shotgun skills <:artistcaught:1213076338760...
ACTUAL MENACE
cosmic flame
@wintry depot I got trusted on alt account, I played it for 3 days and never logged in for a whole week 💀
obtuse oyster
ACTUAL MENACE
nah fam, means the entire raid is menance takes like 5 years to finish a srf
thorny olive
on my old build i just used the free 5x3
I did that too, MS was too good
indigo flax
Yeah I plan on swapping when I get to ark passive but for now eh
wintry depot
<@212378747293270026> I got trusted on alt account, I played it for 3 days and n...
xDD
indigo flax
I don’t really play atm anyways
tulip charm
<:kekw:1161656349105598475> <:kekw:1161656349105598475> <:kekw:11616563491055984...
It’s truth
thorny olive
I don’t really play atm anyways
Ayaya
cursive ruin
sorc players too
indigo flax
not swapping now is dumb
Yeah but swapping on a char that isn’t being played but one aegir bus a week is pointless too
swift magnet
remove pala 😄 wait in summer we wont see any palas anymore anyways xD
cosmic flame
Had an se suicide 3 times in behe to reset awaken
no thats braindead
indigo flax
Chilling till wildsoul comes out
swift magnet
Had an se suicide 3 times in behe to reset awaken
oooooh the unethical mvp way 😄
cosmic flame
oooooh the unethical mvp way 😄
but u don't mvp that way
supple parrot
oooooh the unethical mvp way 😄
He didnt mvp
swift magnet
He didnt mvp
thorny olive
if anyone says they don't get trusted. just flame them frfr
"erm, I got trusted by not playing, skill issue lol, ur sus af"
cursive ruin
what's with arcturus players today bro
one guy applies with sien successor in an x10 lobby
the other applies with a missing ring
indigo flax
thorny olive
Just remove se
Nyo, it's the best class
indigo flax
cosmic flame
sien's successor is a based title
indigo flax
W title
cosmic flame
thorny olive
Better than dreamer
cosmic flame
I use it to get in aegir hm
thorn sluice
I got trusted lmfao
what did you do? how much time passed
cursive ruin
you need to be juiced to a certain extent where you can put joke titles
indigo flax
They successed once or twice you can tell by the title
cosmic flame
what did you do? how much time passed
I played for 3 days when I made the account
got bored
thorny olive
what did you do? how much time passed
3 days anda week
cursive ruin
They successed once or twice you can tell by the title
no it means sien trained them
cosmic flame
got sick after that
cursive ruin
cosmic flame
now I remembered and boom
indigo flax
cosmic flame
have trusted
cursive ruin
or
cosmic flame
just like that
cursive ruin
they suc'd
thorn sluice
I played for 3 days when I made the account
only? great
cursive ruin
gawk gawk gawk
thorny olive
you need to be juiced to a certain extent where you can put joke titles
I like my mokoko general on my full ancient 1690 aya
cursive ruin
yeah like that's ok
thorny olive
She general aya
obtuse oyster
I like my mokoko general on my full ancient 1690 aya
cursive ruin
souleater
cosmic flame
on rice eater account
thorny olive
<a:ArtistPat:1138894685725794355>
cursive ruin
make more
cosmic flame
bet
swift magnet
<:hanaAww:985761853219147806>
oh i can put banana back on
indigo flax
Are we getting a patch with anything this week? I know Brel is next week
obtuse oyster
on rice eater account
just make the same as w/e you have on that account
thorny olive
oh i can put banana back on
TRUE
obtuse oyster
LMAO
cursive ruin
does every mokoko have eye of tempest
cosmic flame
and I have 4 on main roster
cosmic flame
does every mokoko have eye of tempest
ye
obtuse oyster
does every mokoko have eye of tempest
ye
cursive ruin
do you get more tokens the more noobs you have in lobby
safe lark
@thorn sluice funniest shit happened yesterday in kaya, 2 people got imprisoned by the restarin pattern, and right as they were about to be exploded, kaya's stag appeared and i got it to 0, they didn't gete released and remained chained for 20 seconds XD
wintry depot
do you get more tokens the more noobs you have in lobby
no
thorny olive
do you get more tokens the more noobs you have in lobby
No
cursive ruin
do you get more tokens the more noobs you have in lobby
ye
obtuse oyster
do you get more tokens the more noobs you have in lobby
if it was like that, would've been dope
thorn sluice
do you get more tokens the more noobs you have in lobby
ye
cursive ruin
ye
thorny olive
if it was like that, would've been dope
Would actually be a bus system 💀
safe lark
12 leafs in behe 
obtuse oyster
Would actually be a bus system 💀
as if it's not currently (expect it's only 1 passenger) 
supple parrot
@thorn sluice funniest shit happened yesterday in kaya, 2 people got imprisoned by the restarin pattern, and right as they were about to be exploded, kaya's stag appeared and i got it to 0, they didn't gete released and remained chained for 20 seconds XD
cosmic flame
@obtuse oyster time for slander
obtuse oyster
<@227613957928648714> time for slander
wicked blade
<@227613957928648714> time for slander
Wow
thorny olive
as if it's not currently (expect it's only 1 passenger) <:Dead:97661377697769886...
Well yes, but then there would be echidnas of 2 1690s bussing 6 leaves 💀
obtuse oyster
Why would it be
wicked blade
Surely this doesn't go south
swift magnet
so no news tmr and wednesday update news brel delayed for 4 weeks xD
cosmic flame
ok Iceewinter journey begins now
neon cedar
obtuse oyster
6/5/6 angle
meager hill
easiest 4/4/8 of your life
cunning mesa
<@227613957928648714> time for slander
ice is a korean model 
obtuse oyster
ok Iceewinter journey begins now
time to pump infinite on the floor
thorny olive
so no news tmr and wednesday update news brel delayed for 4 weeks xD
I thought she wrote "moron" 💀
cosmic flame
I have no cards
swift magnet
I thought she wrote "moron" 💀
obtuse oyster
supple parrot
someone carry me
Ok make lobby
cosmic flame
I can <:WICKEDAYAYA:1245268443331166218>
PEAK
supple parrot
you're not eu
thorny olive
My Aya can 1 shot those bosses
neon cedar
Me
cosmic flame
What kind of shitter doing akkan and kaya
its 1585 sir
neon cedar
I want the wings and pet
obtuse oyster
the kind that used a power pass
neon cedar
farming pet on alt eu roster is based
f2p bunny is ugly. I still use Akkan pet on my na main 
cosmic flame
What kind of shitter have 1585
sir its another account
thorny olive
Isn't honing free to 1620 yet
supple parrot
obtuse oyster
Isn't honing free to 1620 yet
1580*
cosmic flame
fr
obtuse oyster
reduced cost for 1600 and kinda reduced for 1620
meager hill
nah
cosmic flame
1600 to 1620 still kinda expensive
meager hill
1600-1620 untouched
thorny olive
So reduced to 1600
past ginkgo
1600-1620 is the same still
meager hill
ye
past ginkgo
Idk how they thought this is a good idea
thorny olive
Maybe they nerf once they nerf thaemine gold
cursive ruin
nvm.e m32 .2 omfdla ;smsdl.xc <#$< I*??> ._. :V
thorny olive
Guess they expect T3 players to do G4
meager hill
huh?
past ginkgo
KR already has the Thaemine gold nerfs, 1600-1620 still untouched
thorny olive
💀
cursive ruin
if t3 players didn't do g4 at 23k gold they wont do it at 9
past ginkgo
1630 actually for HM
obtuse oyster
real
cosmic flame
thaemine hm is 1620
meager hill
no
obtuse oyster
thaemine hm is 1620
unchanged for kr
past ginkgo
They changed HM too?
past ginkgo
1600-1620 still is 450k gold just honing costs
If you have all shards, materials, orehas
That is absolutely nuts
Worst case ofc
wintry depot
400k is average
past ginkgo
Nvm
indigo flax
Honed my sf up just to not play her
meager hill
7.3k leaps 
obtuse oyster
2 so far, soon to be 3
cursive ruin
fucking
thorny olive
why would t3 players do thae hm
Oh right... Thaemine is so cursed, it's a T3 raid but it's in T4 but gives T3 mats...
Deadge raid
past ginkgo
Oh so worst case is actually 1 million+
For outdated push
Yeah no wonder new players don't wanna play xD
meager hill
it's infinite gold when you account for all the mats and shards
obtuse oyster
Why would new player make alts
only reason to is to park them at 1580/1600 land to build up mats till express
cosmic flame
okay frfr who's online in euc rn
obtuse oyster
but a new player aint using that kinda logic
cosmic flame
who can help
supple parrot
only reason to is to park them at 1580/1600 land to build up mats till express
Even that is waste of time
supple parrot
not really
I mean thats why my nae is 1680 while alot of ppl struggle with 10x the play time
obtuse oyster
I mean thats why my nae is 1680 while alot of ppl struggle with 10x the play tim...
you're NAE account has been since jumpstart and has like 5? 1640+ characters. Of course you should be hitting 1680 on your main for that account
wicked blade
I'm definetly going for pity
supple parrot
you're NAE account has been since jumpstart and has like 5? 1640+ characters. Of...
No it has 2 1640. Both of which are semi recent from event only
supple parrot
I honed mainly off just 1 char
No reason for more
U only hone more chars if u wanna play more
Not if u want to progrss faster
thorny olive
aya smol hp
past ginkgo
I mean... for 1690
wicked blade
Where the hell do u guys find mats for 1690
past ginkgo
My Aero is 1660 and has almost same HP
wicked blade
obtuse oyster
Where the hell do u guys find mats for 1690
by playing the game
past ginkgo
5 characters in T4 helps a lot
wintry depot
By buying mats
obtuse oyster
don't need to play everyday
meager hill
skill issue
cosmic flame
nooo stay f2p
wintry depot
Bonus room or founders
wicked blade
nooo stay f2p
past ginkgo
I think with 6 characters unrested CD/Guardian
mystic basin
aya smol hp
whale
supple parrot
I got life
If u cant play then u swipe. Pretty simple concept no?
past ginkgo
You make like 7000 blue stones a day easily
mystic basin
past ginkgo
Red stones always more problem
obtuse oyster
wait I have to actually do story to unlock them
check your universal storage
thorny olive
wait I have to actually do story to unlock them
Think u missed out
supple parrot
Or I just RMT like u
I dont and unless u can prove it i suggest u dont defame me
wicked blade
Red stones always more problem
I had no issues on red stones, I onetapped it so may times I have 50k left now
cosmic flame
check your universal storage
o7
past ginkgo
All my characters have like
past ginkgo
Except main but it already stacks up again
thorny olive
My Aero is 1660 and has almost same HP
Life unfair
meager hill
how would that work
wicked blade
I came back for events or when I feel like playing. Or when they add new solo raids
Simple
wicked blade
obtuse oyster
real
past ginkgo
Tbh just wait a month, you get AP on 1640 already
obtuse oyster
that's cope
thorny olive
I already have AP on 1640 
wicked blade
What is cope?
past ginkgo
Behemoth solo maybe end of the year yes
obtuse oyster
that you think you'll get solo aegir and behemoth in a reasonable amount of time
thorny olive
https://tenor.com/view/catgirl-come-on-already-cat-gif-24598868
Meow
obtuse oyster
that is 11 months from now
wicked blade
Yeah
past ginkgo
Took them a year between Akkan/Ivory solo and Thaemine/Echidna solo
So expect another year
cursive ruin
anyone wanna embark on an adventure like spongebob
cursive ruin
no i was cleaning my glasses
past ginkgo
I know Brel 2.0 introduces western exclusive system now
Where she gets weaker and weaker over time
wicked blade
Wtf
past ginkgo
Basically also means Day 1 will be as hard as KR
supple parrot
past ginkgo
No more western nerfs
past ginkgo
Day 1 will be KR experience except you gonna know mechs from a sheet
meager hill
day 1 has a bunch of the nerfs that KR has, just not all of them
past ginkgo
Yeah like I said
No western exclusive nerfs
Because that is the new system they make now
meager hill
eeh, I wouldn't count on it
wicked blade
Nah, they will nerf it 100%
wicked blade
Is Brel HM still a whale bait?
uncut dirge
yes
supple parrot
Wdym whale bait. 1690 is pretty ez to get for vet actively playing
spark elm
Why people think the system will be only for NM? Also they said nearly as launch experience, the random 5% HP nerf for us in the last few raid is probably there anyway
cosmic flame
they all have los 30 tho and I have no cards
supple parrot
The only whale bait is relic books
wicked blade
Wdym whale bait. 1690 is pretty ez to get for vet actively playing
Chuan I swear to God
Shut up with your "it is free" shit
supple parrot
Chuan I swear to God
Did i say its free. Or u too dumb to read
What i said is completely true
wind dagger
wicked blade
You also said All 1680's are standard now
supple parrot
?
wicked blade
wicked blade
1690 is not ez to get even for vet
If u play multiple alts sure
And if u get lucky
cosmic flame
1690 is not ez to get even for vet
I got 1690 like week 2
with like 70k gold
wdym
wicked blade
U had advanced honing?
meager hill
they are literally free
true, I found mine in the dumpster at arby's
cosmic flame
well of course
uncut dirge
wdym wdym?
wicked blade
Well ofc lol
uncut dirge
gems are free - just do chaos dungeon and cube
wicked blade
gems are free - just do chaos dungeon and cube
To get 2 T4 lvl 1 gems
supple parrot
Any vet who plays actively has advsnxed honinh on main
wicked blade
cosmic flame
Well ofc lol
chuan is right u don't play daily tho
supple parrot
What kind of stupid question is that
obtuse oyster
1690 is not ez to get even for vet
a person that been playing non-stop since release or of last year should easliy be able to hit 1690 since they have 20ah and make a ton of gold
mystic basin
Any vet who plays actively has advsnxed honinh on main
past ginkgo
Oh the system is for HM too, how boring is that
wicked blade
Lol
past ginkgo
supple parrot
well thank god i'm not a vet
Dude u literally quit like 5 times or some shit
meager hill
can i get mokoko leaf now
no, you're stuck in purgatory
not good enough to carry, not shiny enough to get carried
just perfect to get fucked
past ginkgo
Basically for casuals, wait a few months and go hit Brel 2.0 dps dummy
wicked blade
Mokoko bootcamp is ending this reset?
obtuse oyster
Mokoko bootcamp is ending this reset?
ye
obtuse oyster
Not everyone can play the game as a second job tho
hw is the fastest it has ever been
supple parrot
U just have to play 1 character to make it to 1680
wicked blade
supple parrot
The fuck u mean like a second job
past ginkgo
There has been plenty feedback to AGS to make it permanent, seems like SG intervened
supple parrot
My nae desdeye is 1680
obtuse oyster
takes like 2mins or less to do chaos and like 3mins max for guardian
so 6-7mins for dailies
past ginkgo
FYI, Mokoko bootcamp was western exclusive event BTW
supple parrot
takes like 2mins or less to do chaos and like 3mins max for guardian
Nah stfu. Playing 30 min a day = second job
obtuse oyster
real
wicked blade
takes like 2mins or less to do chaos and like 3mins max for guardian
Or u get absolute dumb fucks in Argeos and u do it for 12min
obtuse oyster
Or u get absolute dumb fucks in Argeos and u do it for 12min <:KEKW:834726120606...
you pf
like why would you not pf?
supple parrot
Even mm argros is like 4 min max…
uncut dirge
like why would you not pf?
doesn't save you
supple parrot
Ainy no way u getting 12 min
obtuse oyster
Even mm argros is like 4 min max…
he does z most likely
past ginkgo
like why would you not pf?
Honestly, some partyfinder openers gatekeep for minutes, been there
wicked blade
^
past ginkgo
At that time might as well matchmake and don't waste time
supple parrot
he does z most likely
I mm on my 1640 on nae cuz i often get declined and its still 3-4 min max
past ginkgo
Like in EU there is literally people gatekeeping Argeos for Ark Passive
obtuse oyster
I mm on my 1640 on nae cuz i often get declined and its still 3-4 min max
mood
past ginkgo
uncut dirge
this is partyfinder btw
past ginkgo
Most of my matchmake Argeos are under 4 minutes easy
past ginkgo
Even when i get full dps parties
wicked blade
And party takes 12+min
And I won't leave because then I need to wait 10min penalty.
past ginkgo
Idk what 3 creatures you got there, but I haven't seen that once happening
uncut dirge
some of my recent argeos times: 1:47, 2:07, 0:58, 0:59, 1:22, 1:12, 3:42
wicked blade
It took 12min
supple parrot
It was Souleater and me alive
Ur doing z then
obtuse oyster
Idk what 3 creatures you got there, but I haven't seen that once happening
you just gotta eat the penalty and go on the next character when you see creatures like these
wicked blade
you just gotta eat the penalty and go on the next character when you see creatur...
What the
uncut dirge
i think that's just quit raid moment
past ginkgo
you just gotta eat the penalty and go on the next character when you see creatur...
Yeah that looks like total handless party
obtuse oyster
i think that's just quit raid moment
I just song out and go next character
cursive ruin
what's a nutjob
cursive ruin
I just song out and go next character
yo
past ginkgo
i think that's just quit raid moment
Nah just song out, take penalty, go on other character, come back after penalty easy
supple parrot
My dps and support died after a minute
Cuz 2 dps alive should still be a 5 min or so kill
wicked blade
Cuz 2 dps alive should still be a 5 min or so kill
Sure Chuan, 2 x 1640's gonna do it in 5min
Keep coping
quaint lagoon
Damn dude does 1 raid that takes me 2.3 sonavels is crazy
past ginkgo
Sure Chuan, 2 x 1640's gonna do it in 5min
Tbh I had one run where I was the only one doing DPS
That was a 5:40
wicked blade
1640?
swift magnet
sadly
bring it back but improved so that real kokos get their leafs. not a thaemine the first player 😄
wicked blade
Was with slayer actually
Well it doesn't help that other guy didn't had full transc
quaint lagoon
Nah bro I had a run where they didn't have exlirs don't remember if they had trans and it took us 7 mins no way
supple parrot
Sure Chuan, 2 x 1640's gonna do it in 5min
Ur telling me the other 2 died immediately at start multiole times and ate all lives then died again? They obv dead half way thru. And yes. U should be able to kill it in around 5 in that scrnario cuz ur hyper will be up
wicked blade
I ended up doing 62% dmg
past ginkgo
bring it back but improved so that real kokos get their leafs. not a thaemine th...
I think SG doesn't want it to be permanent for west
wicked blade
past ginkgo
AGS got all the feedback, 100% the koreans intervened and said no
Too much free stuff
swift magnet
I think SG doesn't want it to be permanent for west
ya cuz in that case we have smt betetr for newish players what kr doesnt have 😄
uncut dirge
i've been a part of a 17 minute argeos
past ginkgo
Would be too much relic books after some time, they don't want that
They want you to swipe, makes sense
uncut dirge
this was early on and we didn't break the ball
past ginkgo
Just the difference is, people will swipe yeah... on black sites LOL
swift magnet
from business standpoint for sure. i get why sg intervenes
uncut dirge
it exploded and i didn't get a revive
swift magnet
but sad for palyerabse 😄
mystic basin
full 1660 now we wait for wildsoul
quaint lagoon
I mean obv remove relic books
obtuse oyster
uncut dirge
and then other 2 guys proceeded to die
quaint lagoon
From mokoko event
uncut dirge
with the last guy fighting argeos for 8 minutes solo
quaint lagoon
If they keep it
meager hill
full 1660 <:wahoo:1288727601032204288> now we wait for wildsoul
poor forgotten wardancer
past ginkgo
WD is ass
supple parrot
I ended up doing 62% dmg
the boss has 27bil ish hp, 12 min kill at 62% dmg means u did around 23mil dps, so yes, u did z
past ginkgo
Doesn't matter how much you pump
lunar hedge
it exploded and i didn't get a revive
I just start worrying when i see no ones at the ball and it's not breaking after 5 seconds
past ginkgo
It feels awful to play
wicked blade
the boss has 27bil ish hp, 12 min kill at 62% dmg means u did around 23mil dps, ...
Holy, I'm done talking with u
supple parrot
what does that have to do with me saying u did z
wicked blade
Disconnected from reallity
obtuse oyster
Aren't you playing Demonic?
uncut dirge
the boss has 27bil ish hp, 12 min kill at 62% dmg means u did around 23mil dps, ...
on a 1640 with no supp seems low but not hyper low i think?
past ginkgo
I just start worrying when i see no ones at the ball and it's not breaking after...
I always full send until guard, then just quickly move to ball and kill it
wicked blade
Aren't you playing Demonic?
My highest dps gems are lvl 7
So yes, I lose a lot of damage
past ginkgo
Okay, I'm playing mostly swift classes, by that time I got my damage skills up
supple parrot
on a 1640 with no supp seems low but not hyper low i think?
it is, cuz sup was defin not dead since minute 0
past ginkgo
If you have high cooldowns, bad idea
uncut dirge
I just start worrying when i see no ones at the ball and it's not breaking after...
i basically only play SE, sorc or supports and i realized on SE and sorc i can hit the ball and the boss at the same time
so if i can blast i try doing that
obtuse oyster
My highest dps gems are lvl 7
should you should be doing more then 23mil unless you have no support
wicked blade
should you should be doing more then 23mil unless you have no support
She was dead...
uncut dirge
on sorc punishing strike will hit both
uncut dirge
and on SE the pink T skill hits both
lunar hedge
Guillotine? Yeah
uncut dirge
you can also walk in front of argeos and use vestige, that hits both too
swift magnet
do more than my naked co summoner. 0 trans 😄 below that and goodnight 😛
past ginkgo
53 seconds and all lives wasted
uncut dirge
oh yeah guillotine too
thorn sluice
past ginkgo
Damn you played with terrorists
wicked blade
53 seconds and all lives wasted
Don't ask questions... Our Deadeye died 2 times in a row
quaint lagoon
Why even stay in at that point
obtuse oyster
She was dead...
you did as much dps as my 1645 gs that was missing 3 dmg gems
supple parrot
53s
u also get to hyper, which adds about 3 mil dps in a 12 min run, aka u did 20 mil dps without counting hyper
get math'd lil bro
cosmic flame
do more than my naked co summoner. 0 trans 😄 below that and goodnight 😛
toxic paekes
wicked blade
I didn't had hyper at that time lol
cosmic flame
wicked blade
swift magnet
toxic paekes
quaint lagoon
I think he means he didnt do the quest
meager hill
obtuse oyster
1640 and not have t and hyper
wicked blade
I thought Hyper is some fancy thing after AP
supple parrot
ur 1640 without hyper unlocked doing guardians, and u complainin about long guardian, ur zdps and part of the problem, my original statment stands
past ginkgo
No hyper on 1640 is oof
thorn sluice
or u just dumb
uncut dirge
i saw a 1660 aero do 146m dps on argeos
past ginkgo
That is huge damage loss
wicked blade
Yeah, I know
supple parrot
i saw a 1660 aero do 146m dps on argeos
i did 150 on my arti
cosmic flame
raven you're unreal sometimes