lost-ark-discussions

[thorn sluice]

damn bro U’re behind need a small swipe

[supple parrot]

If u invested into fish u wouldnt have the gold to hone 6 chars. Unless u rmting

[wicked blade]

Imagine if i gave a f

[final sable]

this guy soft quit

[thorn sluice]

[final sable]

and sold gold

xdd

[supple parrot]

So rmting

[past ginkgo]

Goldseller huh

Could be me on OSRS

[wicked blade]

Gonna use powerpass on Deathbalde

[past ginkgo]

[final sable]

but hes also really lucky

3 sidereals, bunch of 50k/100k fate embers

[past ginkgo]

2 sidereals

[final sable]

80% on lvl10 gem gambas

[past ginkgo]

And not one chest over 20k

[final sable]

i went 8/23 so im behind

[bold aspen]

[past ginkgo]

I remember my first sidereal was big

Literally enabled all characters 5x3+1

Was massive

[bold aspen]

[past ginkgo]

Full level 9s... man that was good times

[wintry depot]

i just loaded on illios just fine on a character, might want to verify files i guess

[past ginkgo]

Easily had multiple level 10s in T3

No way I could get level 10s now in T4

l0l

Not even all 9s

[wicked blade]

Just did

[wintry depot]

ok sorry i was late a bit to answer xD

[supple parrot]

Inflation too crazy. A roster full of 1640 can make 300-400k a week

Is insane

[past ginkgo]

Oh yes

[wicked blade]

This gonna be pain

[past ginkgo]

That will stop soon though

[final sable]

if u played jumpstart server and minmaxed u coulda made like 2m gold

[past ginkgo]

Thaemine gets hammered hard

It's over for all G4 enjoyers

[cursive ruin]

wish i was thaemine

[supple parrot]

Its still more gold

Than behe

[past ginkgo]

Echidna gets nerfs too

[supple parrot]

[cursive ruin]

no she doesn't

[past ginkgo]

Only on G4 week

By like 500 gold

[cursive ruin]

they only said they're nerfing thae and ivory

[burnt tree]

and barely

[cursive ruin]

[supple parrot]

By like 5k

[burnt tree]

u get like 4500 more gold or so

[supple parrot]

Or something

[burnt tree]

wooo game changer

[past ginkgo]

Nono, I remember

[bold aspen]

1 whole tap

could be chuans free tap man

[past ginkgo]

With G4 week in KR it's now 20k

[burnt tree]

frrf

make or break for his free preaching

[bold aspen]

[past ginkgo]

Oh wait right... we get less Behemoth gold

LOL

[burnt tree]

500 less

[supple parrot]

5k x6 = 30k a week. U guys say thats nothing?

[low nebula]

good vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7GWBSfNodA

[burnt tree]

i think

[cunning mesa]

[past ginkgo]

Echidna is such a free raid

[burnt tree]

not everyone wants to play lost ark as a job

so generally yes

nothing

[supple parrot]

U have more hours than me lil bro

[past ginkgo]

Idk how 70% of the people get charmed

[bold aspen]

i would if ags offers me money

[past ginkgo]

Wth are they doing

Almost like they forgot how to avoid patterns

But they do it on Thaemine because it one shots l0l

One pacman and you are floor pov

[swift magnet]

[past ginkgo]

I seen 1700 vets jail Echidna raids

[burnt tree]

that doesnt mean anything lil sis

[swift magnet]

the more you overhone content the lazier you get. on ilvl players sometimes put more effort in it xD

thats my experience xD

[supple parrot]

U play lost ark more like a job than anyone cept net. U just do dailies all day and spam ez hw raids. Never prog anything that has higher difficulty than first stage of mario

[past ginkgo]

Nono, it is true

[supple parrot]

[past ginkgo]

I did HM with 1640s, they played totally fine

[past ginkgo]

Next raid I play with 5 Ark Passive and we jail

[swift magnet]

[past ginkgo]

oh noooo

[burnt tree]

ive been playing A LOT less since t4 released bucko

and i still do my raids

[cunning mesa]

[burnt tree]

ure just stuck up on that 1 year i didnt raid

rent free

[uncut dirge]

imagine if i had kept playing all the characters i used to

and never stopped

[past ginkgo]

I finish my raids literally in 1-2 days now

[burnt tree]

i just choose to treat it like a game instead of having 6+ endgame t4 characters

[uncut dirge]

i'd have a roster of 15 characters all ready to go

[past ginkgo]

Back in the day, it took me 4 days l0l

[uncut dirge]

plus another roster of 7

i mean just a casual 70 raids in a week

[wicked blade]

Okay, I just onetapped 2 pieces

[past ginkgo]

Brel was a different beast on item level and T3

[burnt tree]

powercreep tbh

[wicked blade]

What the fuck

[ancient tundra]

Go for another one

Make that 3

[past ginkgo]

Or even earlier... Clown and Vykas

[uncut dirge]

i kinda liked brel normal

i didn't like brel hard

[ancient tundra]

But never 4
4 is a bad luck

[uncut dirge]

i don't like that they add mechanical differences between the raid

that make the raid go from a chill run into something tense

[burnt tree]

new brel irritates me cause it feels longer than aegir xdd

[past ginkgo]

Learning Thaemine and Echidna was so easy

[burnt tree]

like 3 gates in 1

[uncut dirge]

because there's something in it where 1 failure = wipe

[burnt tree]

bitch got so many phases

[past ginkgo]

Aegir was a total joke

Like valtan

[ancient tundra]

Wait wa it s that long ?

[uncut dirge]

like i really hated akkan hard vs normal because of this

[supple parrot]

Thaemine was way harder than brel

[uncut dirge]

G3 adds an entirely new gate and that's stupid

[burnt tree]

subjective

[past ginkgo]

Progging Vykas was the worst time ever

Not even close

[uncut dirge]

if you discount G4 i'm not sure

[wicked blade]

I have a lot of elixirs... Should I go for BiS?

[burnt tree]

she has a normal demon phase, then goes ice witch phase, then goes ice witch elden ring phase

[past ginkgo]

Vykas/Clown/Brel, I don't even want to remember it

[ancient tundra]

Progging g4 brel was ptsd

[uncut dirge]

progging g5 brel was ptsd

[supple parrot]

G3 thaemine is infinitely harder than g6 brel. Assuming no trans and min ilvl as in week 1 gear

[turbid oriole]

g5

[uncut dirge]

in hm

[past ginkgo]

The cube? Is fine

[turbid oriole]

https://tenor.com/bPukC.gif

[past ginkgo]

G5 was the worst by far

Glad that shit is gone

[ancient tundra]

Ye fuck g5

[burnt tree]

G5 was unnecessery as fuck

[uncut dirge]

well, i don't know what it was like to prog week 1 hard mode

[supple parrot]

G5 was a joke. Just exposes morons

[burnt tree]

so was G2, one guy has fun, other 7 jorkin it

[uncut dirge]

but i have progged normal thaemine multiple times at ilvl-ish (eg ignite)

[supple parrot]

I mean i can tell u its alot harder than brel. Brel i did 6 of em week 1 on ilvl

[past ginkgo]

G5 was just massive timewaste

[uncut dirge]

and G3 was picked up by the players a lot faster than brel imo

[past ginkgo]

G3 Thaemine definitely harder than G6 Brel

[wintry depot]

We got giga nerfed brel, dont forget about that...

[uncut dirge]

i think it's because thaemine you see the entire fight basically in the first 50-100 bars

if you can learn to do all of that great

[past ginkgo]

G6 HM Brel was annoying though

[uncut dirge]

whereas on brel you can learn that early part just fine, but then constantly fail on 35 bars (or usually shandi)

[supple parrot]

Thats irrelevant as we just talking about our version. Our thaemine was also nerfed

[wintry depot]

Barely compared to brel

[past ginkgo]

G6 NM Brel... whatever

[wicked blade]

Nevermind, this game is fucking amazing

[uncut dirge]

i think shandi is a harder mech thatn pretty much anything thaemine had

[wicked blade]

Just keep giving me stuff rng

[uncut dirge]

with the exception of original clash maybe

[supple parrot]

If we had thaemine unnerfed. Aka first mode. And had to do it with no trans week 1. 99% of groups cant clear it

[past ginkgo]

Thaemine isn't a mech heavy raid though

[uncut dirge]

like i'm not sure what's hard about shandi

[wintry depot]

Unlucky its dogshit

[past ginkgo]

More about patterns

And not falling off

[uncut dirge]

but considering how shandi has such an abysmal failure rate

[wicked blade]

I need it for Scout

[uncut dirge]

it seems really difficult somehow

[wintry depot]

Its just different type of raids

[cunning mesa]

i like how every time i open a game i have 5 different people dming me about it XD

[past ginkgo]

Echidna has way more mechs

[final sable]

you play lost ark????

[wicked blade]

Echidna and Thaemine solo are in the game right?

[wintry depot]

Yep

[uncut dirge]

yes

[wicked blade]

Ty

[past ginkgo]

Yes

[final sable]

yes

thaemine is free

[supple parrot]

Mechs are all ez. What makes raid hard is if normal patterns kill u

[final sable]

echidna is free

[wintry depot]

And they are ez af

[uncut dirge]

i think it depends on whether the normal patterns change or not

[past ginkgo]

Behemoth is a joke

[uncut dirge]

i think what makes a raid hard is if it's long and then throws this unreliable/difficult curve ball mech or patterns at you late into the fight

[final sable]

with hyper awakening, u practically 1 shot all thaemine gates after last mech

[uncut dirge]

what this causes is unfamiliarity with those patterns in the players

[supple parrot]

Yet week 1. Alot of ppl were bitching about how hard it is

[wintry depot]

No chuan is just dumb because we dont need to solve mechs, since kr did already and theres guides when we get the raid in our version

[uncut dirge]

and this will persist for weeks and weeks of people doing that raid, because they end up clearing it without learning those patterns

[past ginkgo]

Yeh but since T4, pretty much a blast through

Even on 1640

[supple parrot]

No shit if u over gear a raid

[final sable]

u should see the dmg

[supple parrot]

Its ez

[final sable]

some 1640s do

[burnt tree]

ew

[final sable]

they do 1620 dmg

with T skill and hyper

[uncut dirge]

i really wish we got new raids same time as KR tho

[past ginkgo]

Yeah mindblowing

[uncut dirge]

or with maybe like 1 day delay at most

[wintry depot]

Still funny how domain expansion isnt solved after a year

[uncut dirge]

blind prog was easily the most fun part of this game

but finding 8 players who want to blind prog, are good enough, and will actually show up is hard

[past ginkgo]

Did people already try to awaken and stack on each other?

[cunning mesa]

in this case it was for not playing lost ark

[uncut dirge]

cause blind prog will require like 25-30 hours of playtime

and that's on 'easy' raids like vykas and clown

[supple parrot]

If we had same time release. 99% of players will just watch the top teams clear to learn the major mechs. Figuring out mech is literally just for thr first clearers

[uncut dirge]

yeah but that's different

[tardy tusk]

Didnt we do that already?

[supple parrot]

Literally by the time most ppl start progging. The mechs would alrdy be figured out

[uncut dirge]

even if you watch someone solve a mechanic there's usually a lot of room to improve on it

[tardy tusk]

just..with different time.

[uncut dirge]

whereas once guides are written the way to solve the mechanic is set in stone

(and sometimes the guides don't really provide the best solution)

[bold aspen]

china game op

[uncut dirge]

for example, you know echidna G1 counters?

[supple parrot]

Resolving mechs are almost never hard part about raid

[burnt tree]

damn

[uncut dirge]

where people gotta write where the counter is gonna be?

you can just see it on the minimap

[past ginkgo]

kinda true

[uncut dirge]

i don't really know what i want from raids in this game

i used to think i did, but these days i'm enjoying a bunch of them

and not enjoying the ones i thought i used to enjoy

[meager hill]

that depends on the length of the gate, and how far into the gate said mech is

[uncut dirge]

thematically i love G2 thaemine

[burnt tree]

ure enjoying them cause u finish fast af probably

[uncut dirge]

i love the chase sequence and how the music works into it, it's cool

but it's just an annoying gate

[past ginkgo]

I can say it again... Vykas sucked ass

[supple parrot]

Mechs are dumb. No one likes em. Its good normal patterns that make a good raid. Which is why most ppl like valtan and thaemine. And dislike raids like echidna

[past ginkgo]

Worst raid ever released

[uncut dirge]

yeah, i think this is definitely the case

[burnt tree]

G2 Solo is better, even if i like the run thing, i dont enjoy it as homework

[uncut dirge]

i think if i had to "legit" fight thaemine i would hate that raid so much more

[turbid oriole]

[uncut dirge]

because people just fail so much

[past ginkgo]

NO

Nothing about Vykas was fun

[uncut dirge]

we blind progged vykas right

gates was actually one of the best mechs for us

because it was so blindingly obvious what you had to do

[supple parrot]

G4 has like 3 mechs for a 20min+ gate. Most ppl would agree its the best fight

[uncut dirge]

meanwhile when we went to pug the next week... failures on gates over and over by randoms

[past ginkgo]

Vykas was this one raid

Where you had one bozo

[uncut dirge]

also we blind progged vykas with only one support

[past ginkgo]

He ruined the entire run

[bright whale]

@primal sedge ure a pig btw,
25 wep 1715 doing 93m with max relic books,
you cant even wait for 30s for some1 to reconnect

wallahi hope you get slaguthenred in a pig den

[supple parrot]

Every raid is a snoozefest after u do it hundreds of times and out gear it

[bright whale]

i spit on you

https://tenor.com/bg17r.gif

[supple parrot]

They keep introduce multipliers

[bold aspen]

[uncut dirge]

i think behemoth is actually a pretty hard raid

[primal sedge]

wtf

[final sable]

huh

[past ginkgo]

Nah all just patterns

[uncut dirge]

but you solve the difficult of the raid entirely by having a lot of damage

[final sable]

behemotn is a trixion dummy that hits back slowly

[uncut dirge]

sure, but the trouble is that you get hit by 2 patterns = -3 potions

[bright whale]

another pig in the blocklist

[supple parrot]

U can do all of the dmg req with 1 person at this point with a sup

[empty sleet]

Shandi is NOT a fan of mine

[past ginkgo]

That is the point, he has the most easy patterns in the game

[final sable]

its so easy to dodge behemoth patterns

its so telegraphed

[empty sleet]

bruh how do u dodge behemoth? u just move like 10 steps away

[uncut dirge]

idk about that, memory game seems out of reach for most players

[past ginkgo]

Yet I still see people die from the wing pattern at the end... idk how it's so simple

[empty sleet]

ok calling me out personally

[final sable]

if i die its cuz its from the tailslam after the double swipe

xdd

[uncut dirge]

like when ignite ended and we progged behemoth

[final sable]

that shit hurts on a 1640

[past ginkgo]

Very simple, 1st wing attack in his back

[uncut dirge]

it kind of felt harder than thaemine and echidna both

[stark sky]

how do u even get hit in basement

[past ginkgo]

2nd one on the side where he wings

[empty sleet]

i know the back front

[supple parrot]

We need more 1680 sups for alt runs next week

[empty sleet]

but the side swipes

when he does a spinnerooni

[uncut dirge]

but it was mostly because everyone was learning there and most of the players didn't know how to deal damage

[past ginkgo]

If you go the side where he wings first, you get hit by the second

[final sable]

because the boss is dead regardess even if i live or die on my 1640 rat

[stark sky]

so u just like getting free bussed?

[final sable]

no its called trade carries

[empty sleet]

i just HA and its all immune

[final sable]

where theres like 4 1680+

[uncut dirge]

but if anyone wants a tip for behemoth

[final sable]

buncha 1660s

and 1640s

[uncut dirge]

then the most important thing to make behemoth easy is to not get wet

all the lightning patterns are irrelevant if you're not wet

[young spindle]

can i not reroll the stats from a ring or earring? i got only swift and i needed spec from the powerpass armor chest

[final sable]

my 1640 rat does llike 60m dps

[burnt tree]

what if other bozos make u wet

[empty sleet]

just dont get zapped

[final sable]

unless i have the mokoko sup

[burnt tree]

[empty sleet]

too much water to care about dodging it all

[stark sky]

https://i.imgur.com/PaOLpDK.png

[past ginkgo]

Most of the time you get hit by lightning is greeding

[uncut dirge]

and the thing that gets a lot of players is when behemoth looks backwards over his right shoulder, does something with the tail

[stark sky]

dn about u but my 1640s do dmg

[uncut dirge]

then he will always do the water cone afterwards that just hits people

[past ginkgo]

Unless it's the wave pattern

[empty sleet]

dodging lightning so ez, especially as sorc

i can hit boss anywhere

[burnt tree]

Nerf gunlancer

[uncut dirge]

nah, people get hit by lightning during memory game

[wintry depot]

no cant

[uncut dirge]

or during the safe spot pizzas or thing slike that

[past ginkgo]

Also people don't look when they got big pool on them

[supple parrot]

Meanwhile im doing 1640 only groups on nae cuz i cant get into good groups

[past ginkgo]

Just place it on your 4head

[wicked blade]

My Behemont raid is absolute cinema

[stark sky]

i wasnt

and also

[final sable]

my behemoth runs are sub 2:30 g1 and sub 5min g2

so

[supple parrot]

How about 1640 only lobby

[final sable]

its always balanced enough

to have rats

[cosmic flame]

@stark sky are back again doing that 1640 does no dps argument

[uncut dirge]

i had a behemoth this week

[stark sky]

point is that u as a 1640 should not just die bcuz ur a rat

[empty sleet]

the difference in 1660+ only raids on my main, and my struggles in 1640 groups is so amazing

[uncut dirge]

1660 19.5m dps, 1647 24m dps, 1640 26.8m dps, 1660 27.3m dps, 1640 34.6m dps

[bright whale]

bout2slur

[final sable]

am i gonna pot while greeding? prob not

[bright whale]

[final sable]

if the post 190 fight

[stark sky]

?

what are u greeding

[uncut dirge]

10:45 clear on G2 behe

[final sable]

isnt gonna last longer than 1min

[past ginkgo]

Only thing you probably cant do on 1640 behemoth is skip all guardians

[stark sky]

lmao

[past ginkgo]

People fail to do that

[stark sky]

u greeding death or something

[final sable]

of course

[stark sky]

then u just stupid

[final sable]

gotta ruin everyone elses deathless

xdd

[supple parrot]

all my 1640 lobbies have been a pain

[wintry depot]

hide the names

[burnt tree]

nah ban him for shaming

[stark sky]

shaming the non 1680 poors

[supple parrot]

wait now u cant see ilvl

LOL

[cosmic flame]

Chuan getting cooked

[bright whale]

item levels in those lobbies?

cause if they are not 1640

shoot them

[supple parrot]

basically all 1640

[bright whale]

ex-communicado

oht hen thats fine

[burnt tree]

with like 2 1680s and a few 1660s we just skip everything

[past ginkgo]

G2 behemoth is how much DPS to clear?

[stark sky]

like 350m

or something

idk

[past ginkgo]

No individually

[stark sky]

divide it by 12 bro

[supple parrot]

u can do it with like 25 each i think

[young spindle]

how can i change what i see up here i forgot

[past ginkgo]

Yeah only your slayer didn't meet the req

Then again it's slayer, probably was Predator l0l

[stark sky]

its slightly over 300

and under 350

this was almost enrage

[supple parrot]

ya but they are all doggo

[past ginkgo]

Most pred slayers suck ass

I know why

[burnt tree]

the golden chest on the lefti think

[past ginkgo]

They don't know patterns and run out of burst mode

Early

[final sable]

oh i hate it when the boss twerks u out of the circle

[stark sky]

maybe its because we didnt get any head breaks

[final sable]

been boxed out a few times

[stark sky]

xdd

[young spindle]

thank you

<3

[burnt tree]

[stark sky]

@distant swallow

https://i.imgur.com/et0xhIF.png

[past ginkgo]

As pred slayer, you need to know patterns better than anyone else

[stark sky]

im down another 70 life pots

[supple parrot]

all my alt raids on nae this week has just been hell

[past ginkgo]

Because if you don't, you gonna sit down a few seconds and lose all your damage

[supple parrot]

@wintry depot this guy didnt censore names, get him

[stark sky]

chuan

[uncut dirge]

i did tho

[stark sky]

go read again

[supple parrot]

oh

LOL

i forgot there was that option

[uncut dirge]

press the little arrow next tot he camera button, it replaces names with classes

[stark sky]

i buy maris

[final sable]

at most i have now adays is like 1 or 2 pugs

[past ginkgo]

HOW do you play breaker and do 13.5m

[opal magnet]

What's the state of NA in endgame rn?

[past ginkgo]

Legit I have to gatekeep them all

Always the same

[supple parrot]

dead for 271s, also, dogshit

[final sable]

i did 9m in thaemine hm on my 1640 GT destro

[past ginkgo]

Average breakers are so fucking bad at this game

[final sable]

there were 3 1690 dps and 1700 sup

[thorn sluice]

[final sable]

i couldnt even hit the boss

xdd

[past ginkgo]

Yeah but breaker is broken class

That's the difference

[supple parrot]

gt destro is strong

[stark sky]

it is one of the highest parsing classes

upper 20%

[final sable]

not if p1 insta [phases everything

and u hit dr

for fun

xdd

[stark sky]

not gonna lie it just sounds like u suck

my rat ass gl does more even with juice parties

full t3 event gems

[low nebula]

looks ok for 1640 pants + body run

[supple parrot]

mocha used to be a nice person, now very mean

[uncut dirge]

hey guys

[supple parrot]

[stark sky]

i am nice

[uncut dirge]

is glaivier and arcana good class

[stark sky]

i just dont put up with peoples bs

[low nebula]

dps as a stat is really affect but how juiced lobby is around, cos shorter fight more dps

[stark sky]

what about it

[low nebula]

looks really good

[uncut dirge]

is it normal for a glaive to blast like that

[past ginkgo]

Idk why this looks like

[stark sky]

donno

[past ginkgo]

Similar to my Aero behemoth run a few weeks back

LOL

Maybe that was me LOOOL

[low nebula]

only on that gate, cos its free for back attackers
check g2 😄

[stark sky]

82 sounds normal

[low nebula]

for 1660 even 5 items its really good performance, from my experience one of the best

[bright whale]

ina aegir hard

anything below 80m as a 1680 = ure bad

simple as that

[stark sky]

mine was doing 70 with 2 piece aegir

[bright whale]

80-90m = ure fine

[low nebula]

hmm

[stark sky]

im not a whale

and i play the worse spec

control is literally dogshit

g1 aegir is a trixion fight

and my class is bottom 5

[supple parrot]

so he is f2p?

[bright whale]

this is g1 aegir?

or g2?

[stark sky]

noi

thats wrong

theres a lot of eu control players

just none in na

every na control player swapped back to pinn

[low nebula]

really ilitist shit to say btw

[stark sky]

or is a noobie

[uncut dirge]

no this is G2

scroll up for G1

[stark sky]

im #1/1

which also means im the worst control player..

[bright whale]

those 1660s are dealing ok dmg for 1660 tbfh

[uncut dirge]

highest i've seen out of 1660s

[supple parrot]

[bright whale]

i mean dude

if ure 5 piece ark pass

[stark sky]

ive seen 1660s hit stupid numbers

[bright whale]

then dealing 80m should be easy

[stark sky]

1660 db abuser hit 120m

in g1

[thorn sluice]

10 m

[bright whale]

true

[meager hill]

using an on-screen keyboard is difficult, ok?

[past ginkgo]

10m souleater haha

[bright whale]

if only i had blade and gl syn

[past ginkgo]

Classic

[bright whale]

[thorn sluice]

i was paladin tho, rat alt , with just a lvl 6 t4 gem on HB

[low nebula]

they prob just new

[thorn sluice]

[past ginkgo]

LOL

[stark sky]

whens balance patch

[low nebula]

85%

[stark sky]

i want to rage again when they ignore my class

[low nebula]

[uncut dirge]

hot damn

[thorn sluice]

missed some

[meager hill]

you can pre-rage, because it's getting ignored

[thorn sluice]

argeos trash guardian bru

[past ginkgo]

Any reaper/aero buffs?

[bright whale]

this was with super charge relic / full 8 tier 4's level 10 tier 3's

[low nebula]

nice bus

[bright whale]

& cursed doll 3/4 i believe?

ye

[low nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-cute-kawaii-anime-cartoon-gif-8588339127741061644

[stark sky]

once my class is op again

again

as if it were ever

once my class is op ill be the only player left on loa

[past ginkgo]

Still better than how Wardancer feels to play

[uncut dirge]

i see, i guess it's an alt

i'm waiting for wild soul buffs

[stark sky]

wardancer is literally pulling high numbers

[past ginkgo]

Not about numbers

Shit feels awful to play

[bright whale]

its my 2nd breaker yeah

he is 1680 now

this was with uhh

[uncut dirge]

SE needs buffs

[bright whale]

4 piece ark pass

[supple parrot]

zerker sucks, arti op, gs op

[uncut dirge]

daaaaaamn

[supple parrot]

[stark sky]

nothing can feel worse than playing ceiling every single raid and getting outdmged 40% by some souleater jerking off to nineveh

[bright whale]

dw he does the same in 1680 normal bussing.

[stark sky]

and pressing their buttons once every 30 sec

[bright whale]

damage is capped for a lot of classes in aegir

[past ginkgo]

Souleater is Smilegate's princess

Ofc it's broken

Wildsoul now their little child or something

[wicked blade]

Okay boiz, how hard is Echinda solo?

[past ginkgo]

a joke, easy af

[uncut dirge]

why are the numbers so low then

[bright whale]

I can fap and do it with one hand

relatively easy

you got this fam we believe in you

[wicked blade]

Just finished Behemonts, guess imma do Thaemine and Echidna

[past ginkgo]

Wait until they figured out the right build + west got their hands on it

[wicked blade]

Holy, was Behemont always this easy?

[stark sky]

bcuz

[swift magnet]

she a child. cant do dmg like souleater 😛

[stark sky]

korea is dogshit at builds

[wicked blade]

Did they nerfed it?

[supple parrot]

we are giga overgeared now

[uncut dirge]

i suspect she won't still be top tier

[stark sky]

korea in general sucks at lost ark

[uncut dirge]

and then we get new class that actually is top tier and power creeps more

and wild soul gets left behind like aero

cause she's an ayaya, therefore she's gonna be played even if she isn't strong

[final sable]

buff reaper

[burnt tree]

cause shes still new

[past ginkgo]

Wildsoul is guaranteed stronger than Aero

Not even close

[uncut dirge]

which means no need to blow power creep budget on it

[burnt tree]

settling on a build and such takes longer than a week

[swift magnet]

to be fair aero never was toptier dps but brings other things to the table paired with decent dps

[wicked blade]

Which deathblade is more viable rn?

Surge or RE?

[uncut dirge]

yeah, other things like, uh

attack speed buff i guess

[past ginkgo]

Just go RE, don't even go Surge

[burnt tree]

RE

[uncut dirge]

which is funny because RE blade brings a stronger speed buff with better uptime

:')

[wicked blade]

Why?

[past ginkgo]

RE is stronger, not even close

[wicked blade]

Oh

[burnt tree]

Ark Passive RE is just peak

[wicked blade]

Alright

[swift magnet]

crit,sync attack speed buff and cute 😛

[burnt tree]

[past ginkgo]

Basically all top blades in KR switched to RE

[wicked blade]

1 more hone and I'm on 1660

[final sable]

i honed my se to 1660 so i can be unethical too

[past ginkgo]

Feels better, plays better

[uncut dirge]

you can do it!

[wicked blade]

Then I do one Aegir and instant activate ark passive

[uncut dirge]

have you guys ever seen a gunlancer with the attack speed buff?

[wicked blade]

DE Shadowhunter

I can get away with 1 piece

[past ginkgo]

Depends, if we get the AP changes next week

[burnt tree]

damn

[young spindle]

can i reroll my gems so i can get what abilities i want or

[past ginkgo]

You won't need to do Aegir

[burnt tree]

DI in T4 is nice too

[wintry depot]

yes

[burnt tree]

yes but it costs silver

if they arent event type

[young spindle]

at what npc

[burnt tree]

gem expert?

[uncut dirge]

gem icon in the city

[burnt tree]

what hes called

[young spindle]

okay

[wicked blade]

Imma just pay a buss

[past ginkgo]

Aegir is already as easy as it gets

[wicked blade]

[final sable]

its so free

[past ginkgo]

With AP changes on 1640, it's a blast through prog

[cursive ruin]

did terry get timed out

[uncut dirge]

aegir is a hard raid

[cursive ruin]

i just see like 6 deleted messages from him

[burnt tree]

idk why would anyone pay for aegir, specially NM

[past ginkgo]

You gain 25% more damage, Aegir is gonna be an absolute joke

[final sable]

gatekeep xdd

[past ginkgo]

Unless you have literally no hands, but then nothing can save you

[burnt tree]

oh right, cause of ppl like C ||huan ||

[wintry depot]

it was already a joke on prog because T skill and hyper

even without ark passive

[burnt tree]

yeah took 1 hour and a half day 1, semi blind NM

[past ginkgo]

I'm pretty sure people with AP will still do 10m dps somehow

[bright whale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924591616503722034/1072989512441008258/Lfire.gif

[wintry depot]

yep

[past ginkgo]

Because they just suck ass

[final sable]

sub 10m

[uncut dirge]

because you're not gonna be taken into a lobby

[thorn sluice]

which una's u do on alts guys, leap? or shards

which one better

[uncut dirge]

unless you have x10 title and/or multiple pieces

[uncut dirge]

always leaps

it's always leaps

[burnt tree]

i haveth titleth

[past ginkgo]

Nono don't worry

With AP changes, I'm pretty sure another surge of prog groups is coming

[final sable]

some ppl want ark passive only

[thorn sluice]

we used to do shards on the beginning

[final sable]

chars

[supple parrot]

dude hte raids been out for months if u dont have x10 title at this point then no shit ur gettin gatekept

[uncut dirge]

it was always leaps

[wintry depot]

shards till i got enough then leaps

[burnt tree]

but i cant get ark passive without doing the raid[yet]

are they dumb

https://tenor.com/view/south-korea-squid-game-beautiful-girl-gif-2601954743389461400

[final sable]

exactly

[past ginkgo]

You know what the problem is

[uncut dirge]

read what chuan said

[supple parrot]

always leaps... outside of first week of t4

[cosmic flame]

Yes

[final sable]

so u need to find some lobby thats either fresh 1660s

[uncut dirge]

that's the opinion people have in this game

[past ginkgo]

These people don't make their own groups, just want fast carry through man

[final sable]

or bus

[burnt tree]

why

[uncut dirge]

basically if you haven't been playing since the start at all times doing everything as it releases

[burnt tree]

its just chuanise

[wicked blade]

I love being buttfucked by blue stones

[past ginkgo]

If people actually made their own groups, easily you can get x10 Aegir even now

[uncut dirge]

then a lot of players think you basically don't deserve to play the game

[supple parrot]

if u dont have 10 clears by this point then u should join lobbies with similar level of exp?

or make ur own and take all the shitters

[past ginkgo]

Look when T4 released, how many more people got their Thaemine/Echidna/Behemoth x10

[uncut dirge]

yeah

[supple parrot]

at end of the day these shitters wont play with other shitters

cuz they are looking for a bus

[past ginkgo]

Because they finally put effort in

[cosmic flame]

https://tenor.com/view/rippuwallettu-pepe-wallet-wallet-empty-rip-wallet-gif-23844969

[uncut dirge]

just spend 4 hours looking for the needles in the haystack

[burnt tree]

those same 10 ppl will be the only ones playing with that logic frfr

[past ginkgo]

And Aegir is easier than all of them

[burnt tree]

yeah the fact just having HA didnt powercreep the raids

[wicked blade]

Literally

[supple parrot]

make ur own lobby? everytime i make lobby i get tons of shitter applicants, just take em

[thorn sluice]

so i frogot the faster 3 leap unas, ghost ship , sage's tower and what was the 3rd fast one

[past ginkgo]

Yeah but before that nobody bothered to do their own groups

[slender sky]

vesper

[past ginkgo]

After that update, literally prog parties everywhere LOL

[supple parrot]

i do vesper, sage tower, and the afk one in el gacia

[burnt tree]

yeah cause it powercrept tf out of the raids xd

[thorn sluice]

ok ty

[burnt tree]

plus raid nerfs on top

[past ginkgo]

1640s get another powercreep, they should easily be able to do Aegir now

on 1660

[thorn sluice]

i don't like the afk one, i prefer ghost ship

[final sable]

no, they just do 1640 dmg

xdd

[uncut dirge]

well, T4 release coincided with ignite server

[past ginkgo]

I fear that

[uncut dirge]

so you had a lot of people joining the game or coming back

[supple parrot]

i like it cuz i do other shit while doing dailies

[wintry depot]

voldis kurzan kurzan

[past ginkgo]

[uncut dirge]

so of course there was gonna be more lobbies

it also coincided with nerfs to the old raids, so people had to move on

[burnt tree]

also eclipse became worthless

[wintry depot]

so you dont have loading screen between the 2 kurzans

[supple parrot]

@thorn sluice u can do the afk one while making a pizza or something

[past ginkgo]

Yeah there is so many people still not doing Aegir

Because they are afraid they can't clear

[uncut dirge]

well some people haven't got there

[final sable]

i just honed my SE to 1660 ytd and all the homies are out of aegir nms

G_G

[uncut dirge]

if you came back with ignite or started with ignite

[burnt tree]

1660 without AH is painge

[past ginkgo]

Yeah gonna have progs again soon, watch

[uncut dirge]

you'd be getting to aegir about now

[thorn sluice]

idc bro i do it on 5 chars, why would i swap char and go afk and repeat, i rly don't care

[uncut dirge]

or maybe a 2-3 weeks ago

[obtuse oyster]

just get lucky frfr

[past ginkgo]

As soon as they get their AP on 1640, they will attempt it finally

[burnt tree]

ez one tap its free

[obtuse oyster]

yep, just don't pity weapon like me

[final sable]

they gonna activate AP and have purple books

[burnt tree]

frfr

[final sable]

and still do z

and 0 engraving rock

[past ginkgo]

Honestly +12 to +13 being 5% actually sucks LOL

[burnt tree]

yep lmao

even tho i got lucky, those rates were horribad

[obtuse oyster]

and the amount of mats needed per taps sooo fun too

[burnt tree]

i have oreha, i have leaps

i have no stones

[past ginkgo]

Yeah kinda ridiculous that 1660 step

[final sable]

i bought like 100k

[burnt tree]

[past ginkgo]

My main was lucky to have adv honing in T3

[final sable]

of the blues

[past ginkgo]

Made it easier

[supple parrot]

buy them use ur gold, what if i told u, gold is part of ur resources

[final sable]

i wasted gold and honed weapon and forgot u just needed +14

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/south-korea-squid-game-beautiful-girl-gif-2601954743389461400

[supple parrot]

how much gold u sitting on

sastho

[burnt tree]

i sold them when they spiked in price some weeks ago

[supple parrot]

[uncut dirge]

you need like

[burnt tree]

1 mil

[uncut dirge]

420k to hone from 1640 to 1660

[final sable]

1m? ur rich

[supple parrot]

thats it? ithought u'd have more

[burnt tree]

its my first time hitting 1 mil

[uncut dirge]

280k in raw gold, 150k in fusion mats

[burnt tree]

[wicked blade]

Well that was a wrong sidereal

[final sable]

i spent like 3m gold past 4 weeks

and i never went past 1m

[obtuse oyster]

if you're hand gathering the fusion or only buying the adidos material, it's not that expensive in fusions

[final sable]

HES JAILED

[supple parrot]

i spent more than 3 mil since i got back a week and half ago

[burnt tree]

i do 6 raids/week, ive just been lucky with ancient acc sales and relic engraving drops

[past ginkgo]

My ignite alt still needs a stone

OMG thanks for reminder

[uncut dirge]

awesome, if you hadn gather it all, it'll be 280k raw gold and 75k fusion mats

[supple parrot]

why r u only doin 6

[uncut dirge]

but because these are tradable mats

[supple parrot]

[past ginkgo]

I'm fucked if I don't have one LOL

[uncut dirge]

it's basically the same whether you buy them or craft them, you just save 5%

[burnt tree]

because i have more/better games to play

[obtuse oyster]

it's not tho

[burnt tree]

and i dont wanna waste my time in loa anymore

[uncut dirge]

it is

[supple parrot]

[obtuse oyster]

it isn't

[final sable]

i played 1 char for a month and a half

[obtuse oyster]

if you had to spend 150k gold

[final sable]

cuz iretired for a bit

[burnt tree]

Marvel Rivals is so good

[obtuse oyster]

you need 150 ontop on the raw

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/semi-squid-game-won-jian-380-player-380-gif-17002293245377651051

[supple parrot]

gae.

[past ginkgo]

Actually nice game tbh

[burnt tree]

is it gae to like Sue Storms and Daggers ass cheeks?

[obtuse oyster]

if you're spending 25k to craft, you don't need 125k raw gold which can be spent elsewhere

[uncut dirge]

sure, but there's 2 scenarios:

1. you craft fusion mats and sell em
2. you craft fusion mats and use em yourself

[supple parrot]

i dont know what those are, but ok coomer satho

[uncut dirge]

2nd is more efficient, but the efficiency gain is just the tax difference

[obtuse oyster]

who in the world is crafting fusion to sell

[uncut dirge]

everyone i know

[obtuse oyster]

that is like backwards thinking

[wintry depot]

just the tax difference?

ok bro

[past ginkgo]

Never sell fusions WTH LOL

[burnt tree]

i mean i never denied that im a coomer, but im a gentlemantly coomer

[uncut dirge]

like it's literally free money

[wintry depot]

i do

[supple parrot]

[final sable]

i know ppl who do

[burnt tree]

plus we play lost ark, ure automatically a coomer for playing it

[wintry depot]

1because i wont hone for a while

[obtuse oyster]

well you're sitting on a 1680

you can do do w/e you want

[past ginkgo]

That you need to spend again anyways on fusion mats

[final sable]

stack on cost reduction

[past ginkgo]

See the problem

[obtuse oyster]

if you're not at 1680 why would you craft fusions to sell

[uncut dirge]

no i don't

[supple parrot]

i been using every oreha i craft, how bout u rice eaters hone ur rat ass useless chars instead of sellin em

[wintry depot]

1690 1680 and 4x1660 XDXD

[supple parrot]

[burnt tree]

no

[past ginkgo]

You sell them for gold, but you need to buy them to hone

[uncut dirge]

you use every oreha you craft?

[past ginkgo]

You basically waste money

[past ginkgo]

Ofc

[burnt tree]

cause i either hone alts or hone my main to 1700 depending on how Act 3 raid is like

[uncut dirge]

yes, like i said, it's just a 5% difference

[final sable]

i sell for gold

so i can have gold to hone

[uncut dirge]

every oreha you craft? jesus

how rich are you guys to hone so much

[burnt tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922351881353850890/1317546674905939988/ezgif-2-14fb1ec6e6.gif

[past ginkgo]

No, I'm doing it because I'm not that rich

[uncut dirge]

i pop out like 850 orehas per day

[wicked blade]

Holy shit man, they cut off so many mechanics in solo

[uncut dirge]

every day

you use that many?

[wicked blade]

I'm so lost

[past ginkgo]

If I would sit on 10 million gold, I just buy em all

[uncut dirge]

like if i wanna hone i just keep my crafts from 2 days

and rest is just sold for money

but i have to thank you guys for not competing

[final sable]

if u have max sh research for cost reduction and sh items with cost reduction

its profitable to sell orehas

[uncut dirge]

shhhhhh

delete this

[final sable]

no

the rich must know

[supple parrot]

? U play the game. Get resources. Then spend said resources on ur chars. That is the game sir

[past ginkgo]

Gotta admit though

I became a lazy fuck

[final sable]

same

[uncut dirge]

yes, but surely you're not using 400-800 fusion mats per day, right?

[past ginkgo]

Now I use stronghold farm mats to make oreha

l0l

[wintry depot]

how are you crafting 800 a day

[obtuse oyster]

rip bozo

[final sable]

u dont get enough normals tho

[supple parrot]

I used like 6k+ orehas since i came back a week ago

[wintry depot]

when you cant even lifeskill every day

[obtuse oyster]

multi roster shennigans

[wintry depot]

because you need to get your life energy back

[uncut dirge]

10 crafts take about 10 hours, there are 40 slots
twice per day = 800

[final sable]

i can craft 1200

[past ginkgo]

Sounds like alt roster

ngl

[wintry depot]

its not every day on one roster

[final sable]

400 x 3 rosters

xdd

[wintry depot]

you dont get enough energy for that

unless you buy potions

[uncut dirge]

err you just buy it lmao

[supple parrot]

I still need more orehas to finish honing alts

[stark sky]

i may or may not have bough 500k fish when they were 39 gold each

[wintry depot]

ye but wasnt talking about that

[uncut dirge]

you make a spreadsheet

put all the relevant info in with prices and costs

and see what's the most profitable to craft

[wintry depot]

obv if you buy lifeskill potions, you make way more oreha and you dont use them all

[uncut dirge]

no, you don't buy life skill potions

i mean you can, but that's separate

you just buy the materials

[stark sky]

arna help

me use

my lifeskill potions

[uncut dirge]

fish, wood, whatever you craft with

[stark sky]

ive used 100 in the past week

and its barely moved

HELP

[tulip charm]

[past ginkgo]

Made like 400k worth of Orehas in the last week

I had 121 potions stocked up though

[final sable]

i buy the maris potions when its low for bc cost

[uncut dirge]

i guess now i understand why people don't have a max level stronghold

[final sable]

and excavate

[supple parrot]

Im slowly catching up. After reset im honing last 3 alts

[uncut dirge]

they don't actually use their stronghold

when i look at stronghold the limiting factor is energy and time

[meager hill]

I mean, it takes time

[uncut dirge]

if i had more energy and more time i could make more money

[wintry depot]

you dont need to buy mats to craft to get your stronghold to lvl 70

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[tulip charm]

I don’t think you were ever behind lol

[past ginkgo]

I need to go back doing lifeskills again

[meager hill]

dispatch is really good stronghold xp

[past ginkgo]

Stronghold is inefficient

[tulip charm]

You got full 5 piece armor and you have 8s on your alt

[past ginkgo]

But chill

[final sable]

i dispatch my 3 sub 1620 non gold earners guardians

[uncut dirge]

of course you don't, but the point is that if you make money off of your stronghold then your stronghold maxes out naturally

[final sable]

xdd

[weak whale]

bois any one know when brel drop ? @@

[uncut dirge]

it's not something you go out of your way to do

i wish i had energy to dispatch

[past ginkgo]

Now that you say it

That is actually a good idea

[wintry depot]

you dont need to max out energy in stronghold every day to level it up

[supple parrot]

I dont have 8s on alt. Mostly 7s and 5s with 1-2 8

[uncut dirge]

it's not about leveling it up

if you make money with your stronghold then your stronghold will level up as a side effect

[final sable]

i cant be bothered to do veskal/sona

[uncut dirge]

which means that if your stronghold is not maxed you're leaving money on the table

[wintry depot]

i make money with my stronghold without buying mats

[past ginkgo]

I think I start doing that tomorrow on my T3 plebs

[final sable]

chaos dungeons are worth it

for the gems

and t3 mats for adv honing new char

if u have enough t3 shards

[supple parrot]

R u guys saving rested?

[wintry depot]

i have rest potions

[past ginkgo]

Nah idc

[tulip charm]

I am

[final sable]

i have like 40 of the rest bonus pots

[wintry depot]

since they still didnt announce when is brel

[past ginkgo]

I just send it every day

[tulip charm]

No more dailies starting yesterday

And 53 green pots saved up

[supple parrot]

Imma run em today and then start saving

[final sable]

are 1660 chaos dungeons gonna give bracelets?

or just 1680

[tulip charm]

Only 1680

[final sable]

i guess i can start resting my 1680s

and keep doing my 1660s and lower

[wicked blade]

Okay... U can do Echidna with one hand 100%

God damn, that is so easy

[final sable]

echidna got nerfed hard

nothing like how it was week 1

[supple parrot]

Echidna was ez since week 1

One of the ezier raids to be released

[final sable]

with pugs naw

pugs do dumb things

die for no reason

[tulip charm]

I still have a tiny hit of honing left, I advance honed my gs and bard in t4 11>20, can get almost 7k bound reds per week, I barely made it before Brel

[stark sky]

next monday

[tulip charm]

Gs and bard weapon 11>20 I meant

[stark sky]

we have reason to believe brel is getting released on the 29th

rather than 22nd

[final sable]

^

i had some speculations about that

[tulip charm]

too many people say it’s 22nd, no one knows for sure

[uncut dirge]

well people say 22nd because that's when login etc ends

[swift magnet]

i would be happy with 29th. 1 more 1670 😄

[obtuse oyster]

it's either two patches with brel on 22nd and anniversary on 29th or them just shipping it as one patch on the 29th

[uncut dirge]

but they have had a patch be a week later than what was expected

and they'd have like a 1 week login bonus

[supple parrot]

Which is why im starting tmrw. I think they gonna announce it tmrw

[tulip charm]

I am still gonna rest gauge regardless, if they change the date I can just adjust

[supple parrot]

If they dont its 29

[uncut dirge]

if you're 1680 do you even need honing mats tht much

[tulip charm]

Always helps to start standing bounds

[uncut dirge]

it's not like honing is gonna do you much good, even if you reach 1690 you'll be missing all the other stuff like gems etc

[past ginkgo]

Brel HM is whale bait

[uncut dirge]

of cours eit's good to stack them

[wicked blade]

Just few more hones

[uncut dirge]

you can do it

[supple parrot]

I have 3 chars at 1670+ that i plan on honing to 1680

[uncut dirge]

yeah, to 1680 sure

i mean beyond

i feel like they're gonna have to do something, because what you get out of honing seems to get crazy expensive

[supple parrot]

I think i just run the chaos on them to save gold on buying mats

[obtuse oyster]

seeing how nothing has changed for korea, you're sol espeicially since the next raid after brel is 1690/1700

[tulip charm]

This is very true ye, but eventually the raids gonna get easier and easier from that new system they have, you could potentially send in your supp to supp trade on weaker alts for hm. For this raid though, I don’t recommend sending alts to 1690, not for a long long time, for reasons you stated

[supple parrot]

I mainly just need alot of guardian stones

At this point

[thorn sluice]

where is ark passive bru