#lost-ark-discussions
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I can tell you how it was in BNS
All quit, the core playerbase stayed
It took years to bleed them out
That too. Retention is really hard once you are this far behind
And you dont have the same vested interest either
i left 1 month after the UE4 update
So its way easier for a new player to quit
ppl say we need new players but
not in their lobbies
I left 4 months after UE4
When I noticed Demonsbane is dogshit
that too and pretty much UE4 didnt solve why BnS was sinking
like ok i could do raids without having 5 fps
but the structure of the games progression was still bad
Didnt bns die bcz ncsoft took 15 years to localize it?
Lol did BnS manage to go to ue4?
LOA still won't die anytime soon, even when new players don't stick around, don't worry
and all events were trove and trove variations
why would we want new zdps players 
yeah it did thats why ppl say its possible for lost ark too
true
but new player wont buy like, an esther 8
he's gonna get gatekept, do solo, get bored to heck and leave
new players aint buying nothing
If it happems im 3 or 5 years it still means the game isnt being developped with longevity in mind
they dont stay enough to buy anything
Could happen in 5 years though when veterans slowly quit over time
does the zerk community toss one braincell around like beachball?
But that is 5 years, long time
only communities or guilds can keep new players playing
UE4 on BnS was delayed like 2-3 times? i forgor
you mean devs.
I can't fathom how many statics there are, how many skilled players i never meet
I have 8k hours in the game ill reduce it to 0 if something better comes to replace lost ark
no
Sure , true, but the partyfinder thing is 1000% better with friends
what incentives, when the recent incentives were basically vets in alt rosters
Mokoko was actually a really good event
The reason we stay is bcz we got nothing better to do
a lot of people abused it but a shitload of new players also benefitted greatly from it
Abusers be abusers
Some actual noobs interested in the game didn't get mokoko leaf sadly
tbh should have been perma and the shop refresh every 6 months or so
Yea and a shtton of new players got used to the free rides and didnt utilize the event to make friemds
Yeah ending this event is terrible
We go back to old status
No friends means they are dead in the water next week
not really
I actually found some leaf friends and i taught them but they aren't communicating anymore
with the resources they generated and x10 titles and shit it gets them hella lot further than where they started
Even traded them freebies 
sure they can't play with vets but they never could in first place
Sure but they have to fight the g0 boss every week on every character
It will get them in eventually
But from our experience bussing them every week
We are going to be very skeptical accepting them
thats a given
@thorn sluice
As if we gonna tolerate 15m dps in aegir
Nice
Point is equality is around the corner and they wont like it
My highest is 1685.83
doesnt help that T4 is p2w as fuck and the gap is bigger
Kr people when they see us overhoning 1680:

T4 is way overpriced
most common dps engravings are 150k+ each book 
I remember
3 years after BnS west release
It also became a lot more p2w

treasure trove 
gamba for best souls and shit in trove
Was also the time when they went crazy on weapon/pet gems
yeah
Every 2nd patch, new soul/heart tier
the gems having gems 
Oh and 2019 they drained out the sacred vial gain
From events
From 20 to like 3 l0l
yea i remember
I mean they're slowly giving out relic books in events
im adorable hero
What is better for RE Blade KBW/CD/RC?
events should have atleast 1 relic engraving 
and unstappable
not just on occasions
I remember I was done with True Resolution Soul, next week they released a new tier
the mokoko event is an occasion
yeah the upgrading process in bns was a pain in the ass lol
just when ure like im done for now
surpriseee
Didn't we get like... weekly limits?
I remember I got so much materials
Now it's one roster limit of 30, buy them out and done for 2 months
At least we have silver exchange now and remember they patched a tab with tons of t3 mats and orehas
I think its good
now we just get fucked by ags. giving us like 4 shard bags weekly from mokoko event or some shit 
giga scamge
And they reset the shop midway accidentally
i think its just them removing the fomo behind having to do shit every week
lol i finished mine 2 weeks ago
they could really remove the roster limit. atleast just leave it on weekly limit. shit gets bought out after 2 weeks then an empty event running for 2 more months 
Yea they put one as a gift if you spent 14k rc
That is... 5 taps?
If you tap on fresh 1640 gear though
80 pouches 75 t4 guardian stones each
So if you are 1680, it's even worse
im not gonna mention weapon cause yeah

with a pitiful amount of artisan energy
Tbh for vets, not so bad you got mats
they gotta do two things. improve this shit client and give us more mats 
Now imagine new player
i dont have mats 
New player gets 5 taps man
xd
By the time like a new player got to 1660
Aegir got solo mode
Weapon, 3750 weapon stones which is 1 tap for me xd
over an event that lasts 2.5 months
thats so bad.. cheapo on cards.. cheapo on mats. mf like its gonna hurt them to juice us a bit more we all spending like crazy anyways

1 tap in 2.5 months is actually crazy
project 1680 canceled @bold aspen
going back to cheapo mode
and like sure its paired with the mokoko event which has weekly gold, stones, etc
gib los24
gib better client
gib more mats
gib idk what.
boom 10k more players coming 
but thats no excuse to make the event worse
mf why
mf made me wait for nothing 
keeping gold for lost ark 2


damn that fever changed you
Gonna need this green number for gems and more anyways
something you will literally never see. cuz you are the same braindead toddler like me. anything we save we have to spend/use
none of us ever seeing green gold
yes It woke me up
Or relic books
xdd
Not as simple. Imo honing needs to be replaced with advanced honing.
ayo can we ban this dude ? more adv honing stop it 
Most rng needs a reasonable end point
i mean aside from the cost, adv honing is the best vertical to date
And they must not force the general player base on sub 5% rates
That shit is way too expensive LOL
i just hone to +14 and get my 1660 like that 
why do u think my fever relapsed during day 3
rates shouldnt go below 10% 
Yes it is. But if it replaces normal honing it will have lvls where its not bad at all
Honing in general is horrible
You start with 10%
or they ban all f2p players
Do 2 armor taps, back to 5%

Thats just band aids until ppl start hitting sub 5% rates
damn then i wouldnt get banned 
I had that one last cough before leaving too
my soul left with it

they should increase them across the board 

early tapping to pity is too big of a difference
Like how great is it to see ppl 1 tap 25 and you have to hit it 110 times instead
its a korean grindy mmo game
your soul left. your health left. your gold left. man no wonder you going through hell

real
we bounced back tho 
ah yes the legal rmt method
yea like try now man
full power at home
going good for chaos ๐
still 6/6
7/6
5/6
8/4 i tell you

They let you hope, then crush you
ez
Hey guys I'm new to the game and was wondering if someone may have any advice about getting started? Also are there any newbie friendly guild i can join?
Aro basically posted all information, I would also use that
For class guides, go look at Lost Ark Nexus
mf when people ask nice or actually new players i always help. i just dont like dumb people 
ok fuck you too man 
The more new players stick around, the better
ye

i forgot i have like 190 pheons. ill cut some rocks you can watch and tell me what to hit
i need 7/7 on zerk

that tool thingy
ok lemme finish cube
shore
2 dcs in thaemine g1 in a row
Look at this nice group of mokoko working together to clear the raid 
ew league
not rewarding enough
Next week can start setting min ilvl to 1660+ 
might try actually grinding for once
they made playing worse
and get master+
I'm working on my Dark Matter camo grind
Idk why they went back on 100 headshots for every weapon, shit is annoying

I miss all 75% top then hit all 25% bot
How much it would be cost?


7 stones
xdd
guys i need help with something
no wait saints is reversed
30k gold

i'm studying the answers bank, one of the questions is:
"what time .... the train leave"
the correct answer is obviously "does", but it's highlighted "has" as correct
if i go and type does
do you think they'll count it as wrong?


What the fuck is that question
yeah it makes absolutely 0 sense
but that's what the paper says is correct, so idk if they'll give me a point for typing "does"
yeah i'll make sure to talk to someone about this
if it comes up in the exam that is
it's just what the paper says
Does is a question, has is a statement
and they use a computer to grade stuff
Smart
Now tell me that they use AI
And I will pay them a visit.
i don't think so
2 honing chests on my alt
but if they feed the computer the wrong answer
it'll get between me and a 100% score
bro i know
it's not even like, a question
anyone who speaks a tiny bit of english knows this
but if computer is grading based off of the Q&A bank it might be an issue
i'm going to
Imagine using that in a bank
lol
mokoko seeds do have an expiration date
Like we all saved... 500k gold literally
If you went for Adrenaline book
And mokokos got their raid clears
Was actually best event we had so far tbh
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honor shard bags were 301 today... wth?

bich

T3
all rollable i get i send to pet
Itโs a lot expensive to upgrade from relic t3 to ancient t4
and roll em en masse
U know ?
bro what are your takes?
U need to do all the 4 level of kayangel stone upgrade
Ye I saw
kayangel 
6k 
im R for female pally adv honing
corpussy ate
in t3?
weird flex but ok
weird flex but ok
honed my aero to 1580 to farm more
when did you learn such language?
takes 4.7m shards to adv hone 1-20 all pieces
ok snark, i have a problem with my exam
i have 4.8m and change
i'll test you

the questions bank is like a Q&A, it gives u question and answer and the exam comes from it
spot the issue here snark
the train leaves after 12
shut up
What is this
@thorn sluice solve the issue
an answer from my Q&A bank
the green is what the teachers say is the "solution"
Does
correct
Ofc itโs basic English bru

my previous exam was 750 answers
that i had to study
all of
and then english is this
i pay the equivalent of a new rtx 3060 every year for this shit
Ok
Most important is the result
damn that is also free
bro
if this question doesn't come up tomorrow
i'm aceing this
god willing brother god willing

Lmao
U come up with most random shit


tmrw we gonna get brel release date right 


bro
tomorrow i have exams
they should announce free gold
not that i would sell it
but i need something to lift spirits
SHORELY you wont sell it
promise

its 22nd anyway
u dont know that for sure

its not confirmed yet right
just highly likely
the fact that they havent said date yet makes me think it could be pushed to 29 
thats when login rewards end, and i wont risk my rested waiting for the announcement
yep
that's when they release the futa rain event
only announcement we're getting tomorrow is that mokoko event is getting extended another week
xddd
probably
extended until March or some shit cause Wild Soul frfr
they can ezily just extend event by a week and release on 29, they've extended event before

29th is probably Thaemine raid on KR

i was, but since it wont be nerfed im sticking to HM


not even gonna try it?
no?
i'm torn on it

specially since we wont have the battle item for g1

doubt theres much hope unless you have a juiced static with hands
chuan can u weirdga one more time so u get muted for spamning


@wintry depot ban him
fuck u
but HM is too much of a pain in the ass to bother 
how much more gold is hm
i might try hit 1700 for Act 3 HM cause it looks interesting
YES PLEASE
every day i'm shuffling
Extend it permanently thank you very much.
but for Brel hell naw
doesnt matter
does that matter tho
fun is subjective
u hone and shit improve ur char, but when actual challenge content comes
u dont do it

also getting karma faster doesnt matter much
its not a challenge if its literal whale bait
1690 is not whale bait
but doesnt matter xd

it is
why?
I WANT TO MAKE MORE GOLD ๐ฃ๏ธ
Even if you get a nerfed version, the DPS requirement will still be around 90-100M dps
ppl said that about every raid
not really
doesnt matter since we arent anyway
Stop the cap, it won't be too much away from KR
we're not getting a nerfed version
Brel NM has similar reqs to Aegir HM though in terms of DPS
Brel NM is a joke its whatever
thats piss ez? 
aegir hm dps sounds like a joke yeah
if most ark passive players are like this then the west has no hope, billions will pay
pretty much
chuan do you have hair
more like anyone without ark passive is getting gatekept
everything i dislike about g2 brel is in hard mode as well
yes, do u have camel net
no
broke ass
i selled my camel for internet connection
maybe g1 hm g2 nm angle ayoo
will be gatekeeping 1680 full ancient accs for brel nm 
so if i only do 100m dps in aegir i cant do brel hard? 
u the first to floor why the fuck would u gatekeep anyone 
gatekeep full futa for brel
i have full ancient without passive i can run with you UwU

lil bro, ive raided with u, plz dont talk about floor 
lil bro had more floor time than play time 
Damn, I mean expected from Aron
why u projecting again dog eater 



@bold aspen time to retire bru
Which is why it will get very easy soon when you prog it with 1660 fresh and the AP changes
cringe ragebaiter go back to sleep 
On a serious question now. Can I do anything to make LOA open faster?
Even with nvme it takes 2 minutes

buy new gpu
also imagine believing a single word chuan writes
u gotta be high as hell 

I'm talking about launching the game
client is dogshit cant help
hey i saw alot of ppl talking about ignite server.. what is that? and where?
that's about as fast as u'll get
i mean, no logical person takes him seriously[i hope]
i'm on an m.2 as well and it takes 1:40 mins
gone ages ago
Did aron and snark raid together b4?
oh ok
Same
He said that every1 else is at 1700+ when only 2% max 5% is at that ilvl
Identity... 0%?
i mean anyone with more than 1 braincell wont 
WHAT
wait what
paladins cannot have identity on themselves unless they use judgment
I just honed to 1700+ last night off bounds. Literally free
5%? prolly 0.1% is at that level
he lost me when he said some ilvls are free just cause he was lucky, as if we can replicate this at command.
he has iden

Ye but my point was another, u said โI honed to 1700 where every1 is atโ
"It is free"
โI was behindโ

thats this hidden power right there. delusional 1 liners 
actual crackhead 

Wdym, honing is free
china didnt help at all i thought lil bro gonna come back normal
ladyboys didnt do the magic


I mean. I was behind. Now im catching up. Next week im honing all alts to 1680
1700+ main with 5 1680 alts is standard now

"It is free" - chuan 2025


Or forever
or forever..

cause at this point its not funny
1700 main 5+ 1680s isnt a standard
I mean most of u guys dont actively play and raid
In what world is 1680 standard now
Isn't johnpal all 1680 though?

i do

but theres no world what u just said is a standard
Yes. He even has 25 weapon. Thats above avg
all i want is a supple woman who has proven her worth
i mean against chuan lets go man release the demon release the kraken full speed that shit

I think the only korean I know with all characters beyond 1680 was Zeals
And he's a whale LOL
since when whale/no lifer rosters are considered standard
Zeal has multiple esthers
satho you're the type of guy to aggro minecraft dogs

yeah average KR players look more like Memos roster
not Saint or Zeals
Yeh not even Memo has all 1680, I seen it one of his last streams
it became an NA standard since all of NA is a bunch of RMT goblins. literally mental how much they rmt. so ofc its normal for them to have rosters like that 
I mean even ppl who afk all day like @quartz turret is almost full 1680
It is literally free
i mean u can see the non whale rosters on loawa
Isn't Chuan NAW?
RMT region?
yea
they dont have 1700 mains with multiple 1680s
both are rmt NAE or NAW ..but NAW is just limitless
But then again... Zeals has 3 esthers
godamn shut up
And now he just drops one esther and Wildsoul already almost 1700 l0l
Saints roster i also whale-ish tbh and he has no esthers
is*
They have relic books
but he did say hes spent like 50k on the game
I dont

Yes
1 relic book to max is more than enuf gold to hone ur whole roster to 1680
Only thing I know is... on his new static, he is actually the weakest

Finished it
With 1740 blade LOL

doesnt matter, at this point in tier 4 theres no timeline 1700s with multiple 1680s is seen as a standard
and theres nothing free about it either, ure lucky just say that and move on
and i say it as someone who got really lucky honing to 1680+
dont fall for his bait. they are worse than snarks. 
chuan hasnt been around for a while
idk what the fk is wrong with NAW players
he needed a good ragebait dose
and their overdeveloped delusional standards
If u aint buying relic books. U have plenty of gold to do that 

Look at this poor second roster

i do have gold, im just not gonna waste it on honing alts to 1680
nice scooter
where 1700 main and 5 1680 chars ?
I mean u literally dont play
bro he is just baiting who is behind him
Sorry, I don't meet the STANDARD

Ok. So what u using gold on?
i play every fucking day wdym 


nothing atm
trying to decide what to do with Brel b4 i use it
50k of what
So ur just not using any gold and then u call ppl who actively play the game and use in game resources to have stronger chars dumb
dollars
Gotcha
to who does that not sound like a lot
I can buy an apartment for that money
Wdym it is not a lot

no, i call dumb a moron who thinks 1700+ main with 5+ alts at 1680 is delusional
Like the most money I ever spent on a game was 2k
you ever see a dog's butthole when it barks
That's already crazy
specially since most ppl dont even have advanced honing on their alts
what ure saying is pretty much insane xdd
Holy... Please open faster
So instead of having that u just hoard ur gold and do nothing with it. Sounds like ur just dumb or rice eating

im not rice eating, im waiting to see what the guild groups do with brel
Imagine with 50k man, you would sit on 1700 with your entire roster
So just dumb
Easily
Gotcha
bruv what ? 
lmao fr?
chuan stop baiting who is behind, some people get baited hard
im dumb?
Probably even got esther 8 on west
ok 

hes wrong 90% of the time
pathetic
6x 1740 is the standard
@bold aspen What is ur estimate of RMT chuan did?
6x1740 noob
so true, its free
6x1735 is the real deal
dont u know that vairgrys guy
Wtf bro
That's the way
@bold aspen Standard
i dont actually know what his roster looks like. but the people he plays with and the way he yaps. millions and millions 
lvl 10 t4 gems, full relics, 9/7 stone, esther 9
Oh shit, I have free pass
yeah

if uve already done AH even 1-10 its kinda ok


but most ppls alts arent 1-10
even 1640 to 1660 without AH isnt "free"
My game just crashed.


- I just play the game and use ingame resources to hone unlike some of the rice eaters here


1660 isnt that hard to get
bro im not Net, im not hoarding to sit on it for 90 years
costs less than a weeks worth of raids
wildsoul stash is growing ๐
use the gold chests
that's 10 ilvl bro
wasted slots istg
fuq is that
Alot of ppl here prob can hone 1680 alts if they just used their gold and shit. But they either just sitting on thr gold or selling it
nooooo if i eat it now i will hone and wildsoul wont have gold xD
And thats the truth
Wtf I've never even seen one 100k chest
or buying books/gems
do u have 6 of the same char
I'm playing a different game

so does Chuan apparently

i was buying gems
all the engravings i use are the top 5 most expensive
people calledm e crazy for it
Honestly i only see giga whales buying relic books. At least on dps
I guess I won't be playing Lost Ark
im only doing gems right now
you'd accuse me of not hoarding, but selling the gold, instead
u know
gems in nae are still cheaper than kr
lol
the longer u wait the more u will get fucked
i bought when it was -10% from right now
anyone like the 6 legs squid game episode where they were just going "hawk tuah, hawk tuah, hawk tuah, hawk tuah"
I mean it doesnt cost much to honr a 1680 alt if u have most of the mats. Compared to buying gems
Is Illios still in the game or not?
I don't understand why I keep crashing trying to load to the island
i use raid gold to hone my alts. those chests are for wildsoul ๐
it cost me 320k to hone my SE from 1642 > 1660 with weapon at 14 already
with no adv honing
dont wanna be bankrupt when she is released ^^
was it free
it soundsl ike u just bought every single mat
pretty free
sounds free man do it 5 more times
fair


320k is less than how much gold u make in a week fyi
i would but im not pushing the last 2 chars i have
That looks more like realistic roster
getting replace by a pally with next pass then female pally
How much playtime?
sir thats free just tap it all bounds gg ez go next 
naw i felt like playing a unethical class
had most of the bound mats
just pityville
So using bad luck scenario to make it sound like average
honed my artist to 1690 so now i just have spare gold

my steam palytime isnt reflecting my real playttime. most of the times i stand in punika dancing xD
9k
but most of the time afking and watching netflix xD
ayoo
Got 3 1680s, 3 1660s
good one xD

Thats pretty bad for 17k hours all 1 class tbh. But he is prob spending most gold on gems or something

why both
i can only pick 1
chocolate got vodka in it wym
nvm go 1 go 1
u fkd up
Ngl I think he pitied legit 80% of all his honing

For all 6
if u went whiskey or rum

still could have both
Dude is the most unlucky honer I've ever seen
vodka chocolate and coffe dude gonna shit a laser
oh yes 1.2m per gem

the one with vodka in it
ssince i spent my first year on NAW
1x 1680, 1x 1660, 3x 1640s
chocolat it is
Bard isn't even T4 LOL
Which is why i say 1700 main and 1680 alts is standard 

I remember that, if you invested into fish, you made insane gold
I'm still mad I didn't do it LOL
everything went like 400-500g
same single braincell across the hive mind










