lost-ark-discussions

[thorn sluice]

Every multiplayer game is toxic

[swift lava]

[thorn sluice]

Because u play with other people

[swift lava]

Marvel is fun

[worldly hawk]

not true.

[swift lava]

Give an example

Lmao

[worldly hawk]

anything that doesn't involve PvP or some sort of group activity that need working together with people you don't know

[thorn sluice]

Dude that’s single player game

[worldly hawk]

[thorn sluice]

A game where u play with people

Is toxic

[worldly hawk]

Factorio isn't

Satisfactory isn't

[thorn sluice]

Fuck is factorio

[worldly hawk]

he doesn't know

gods gift to the gaming world

[thorn sluice]

[steep mortar]

Would you ever play those with randoms though?

[worldly hawk]

yes was only chill in my experience

[thorn sluice]

Moba games aren’t toxic

[worldly hawk]

oh you mean if i would, yes i have actually

[thorn sluice]

In my experience

[worldly hawk]

woah hold your horses there

let's not get too crazy here

[thorn sluice]

[weak moat]

that fox transform one looks ass

[worldly hawk]

why is this clown still here

[thorn sluice]

I mean, how can some1 say that moba games aren’t toxic

Talking seriously

Terry

[steep mortar]

The most wholesome online folks i know are board gamers. (which sounds weird)For the most part everyone is just happy to play.

[worldly hawk]

@distant swallow most average league player right there

[thorn sluice]

I played a moba game 12 years

[worldly hawk]

you certainly act like one

[thorn sluice]

I know it’s toxic

[worldly hawk]

yeah looks kinda jank

what mmo or moba isn't toxic

[steep mortar]

So is one a fox and one a bear spec or how does that Work?

[worldly hawk]

i still don't understand what that means

[steep mortar]

Fair enough

[worldly hawk]

you just discribed literally every single online chatting platform, congrats

that's not exclusively a twitch thing you absolute bafoon

[steep mortar]

Well eventualy we will know. We have like another 6 weeks anyways.

[weak moat]

bear definitly looks like the strongest

but that other build swift/crit

looks kinda strong

but hard to judge vs soulfist

no

[worldly hawk]

just because i can express myself with emotes doesn't mean i'm what you're describing

[weak moat]

both build seems strong

just need to be put on the bible

so we can compare

[steep mortar]

What is a Slayer situation?

[worldly hawk]

context?

[steep mortar]

Ah got ya.

[weak moat]

this whale has both build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJEMzOVQEm4

he did G1 aegir with bear

[worldly hawk]

it's kinda meh, but could change

[weak moat]

and he is doing g2 aegir with the cri/swift build

[steep mortar]

I hate it that i barely get to hear the two coolest effects in LOA imo since i play the other spec.

Like Azure Dragon and Mariposa sound so awesome but hey it is what it is.

[weak moat]

thats the non transform one

right now in g2

[faint grove]

doesnt look fun at all

[uncut dirge]

the bear rock effect honestly looks a little distracting

maybe we make a 4th soul eater instead

[faint grove]

jesus the sfx in this game is awful, my ears.

[weak moat]

the beard one looks fun as fuck tho

but for a swift class doing this kind of dmg

thats crazy

thats like more than eo soulfist

[uncut dirge]

well isn't it like 1700 tho

[weak moat]

1690

[faint grove]

full lv10s no?

[weak moat]

yes

and full relic

[uncut dirge]

nice hyper awaken

[weak moat]

he missed LMAO

[uncut dirge]

so crit-spec is a burst build?

actually maybe not, i dont have a 1690 so i dont have references to put the numbers into context

but i guess a burst like igniter would be hitting 1 billion +

[faint grove]

yeah igniter is like a billion per skill

[weak moat]

no

its a sustain dps

bear is burst like wardancer

every 4th skill is a burst

[uncut dirge]

bear every 4th skill is burst

or this every 4th

[weak moat]

no

this is the crit/swift

sustain dps

[uncut dirge]

well yeah but NE can "burst" like that too despite being a sustain

[uncut dirge]

i watched zeals i think play bear a bit

and it seemed quite fast for a spec build

[weak moat]

he is playing fox build now

[thorn sluice]

If the class stats are crit swift , why does the engraving gives u another 20% atk speed mov speed

[weak moat]

I think I'm bout to bear

[thorn sluice]

It’s wasted

😂

[steep mortar]

I mean if the cycles arent to Long. Bear sounds funnier to me right now. Main reason i dislike ESO Wardancer is. You do your rotation and then you play the waiting Game.

[thorn sluice]

Trash concept

[weak moat]

cuz they become piano mode

during Z

[faint grove]

because crit swift is not swift crit

[vagrant cradle]

main stat crit and they want you to use raid captain?

[weak moat]

the concept is to use

your longest cooldown 1st

[thorn sluice]

[weak moat]

during Z

[thorn sluice]

The other engrsvings heals you

[weak moat]

and then use the identity to reduce its cooldown

[thorn sluice]

We have another DI sh

Great

[faint grove]

looks like a boring button masher spec

[vagrant cradle]

yeah but that heal is garbage

[thorn sluice]

Gatekept

[weak moat]

wut button mashing is more fun

[vagrant cradle]

please don't consider 1% healing every 10 seconds as actual healing

[weak moat]

than standing and doing fucking nothing

[faint grove]

braindead button mashing is not fun

[thorn sluice]

It is

[vagrant cradle]

[weak moat]

its not braindead it has rotation

[thorn sluice]

Sure rotation

Also WF has a rotation

But it’s still brain dead

Shield -> dmg

[flint warren]

when does brelshaza release?

[thorn sluice]

Wow what a rotation

[vagrant cradle]

probably like 2 weeks

[faint grove]

probably 2 weeks

[dense inlet]

You guys think we'll get an express event with brel release?

[thorn sluice]

Need to start propaganda right now

[steep mortar]

I play almost exclusively swift classes. None of them are braindead imo. Actually i feel like spec classes are more braindead.

[faint grove]

Probably 14 days + 20 hour maintenance

[thorn sluice]

🗣️Gatekeep wild soul 🗣️ 🗣️Gatekeep wild soul 🗣️ 🗣️Gatekeep wild soul 🗣️

[dim lark]

🗣️Gatekeep rmters 🗣️ 🗣️Gatekeep rmters 🗣️ 🗣️Gatekeep rmters 🗣️ 🗣️Gatekeep rmters 🗣️

[steep mortar]

Well same for Hunger Reaper with higher spec.

Its just the mobility.

[thorn sluice]

Hunger reaper and db are in 2 different worlds

[thorn sluice]

Not at all

[faint grove]

did t4 fix gs cooldown issues?

should i unbench it

how much gap we talking

used to be almost 10 seconds

i think

[faint grove]

ofc you'd run unlimited magick

3-4 sounds pretty reasonable

maybe ill unbench my gs instead of making a furryloli

shit looks boring af

[steep mortar]

Do you even get everything out in a fight Like Aegir g2 when he decides to fuck off every 10 Seconds?

[faint grove]

should be fine then, doubt my muscle memory is gone

[steep mortar]

The amount of times i was in my deadly dive animation and hes like: See ya later loser

[visual grove]

ws is swif char?

[dim lark]

every char is a swif char if ur dumb enough

[visual grove]

[safe lark]

I go brel swift igniter

Maybe no1 will notice

Except bible

[meager hill]

supposedly ws has both a swift and a spec variant

[worldly hawk]

[mystic basin]

I will report to arna

[thorn sluice]

They don’t release alpha man classes anymore

Last 2 classes were and are brain dead af

WS heal engraving

What is really sad is watching this shit class doing too much dmg

[dim lark]

too much? where

[thorn sluice]

Because there is no way they release a class which is not too strong right ?

Community would cry a lot

[thorn sluice]

They aren’t going to release a class that deal no dmg

I know it right

No high dmg*

[dim lark]

but what does too much mean

[thorn sluice]

Too much compared to other classes way harder to play

An example ? Lunar reaper

[dim lark]

are you one of the morons watching 1720 whales play her and compare them to classes 30 ilvl lower?

[visual grove]

[thorn sluice]

Sure, we see BK and SE doing a lot dmg only when they are 30 ilvl above

Dude you don’t even look at meter

Cuz u already know u are the 3rd support in the lobby

U do not have any reason to watch it

I feel u

[dim lark]

nvm, ur stupid like usual

[thorn sluice]

But there are classes that deal too much dmg

I Don’t know if u noticed it

Try to watch at the first places in the meter list

Instead of the last ones

You will see always the same 2/3 classes ( on similar gear gem lvl)

[dim lark]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-unfunny-dent-head-gif-20625569

you rn

[cunning mesa]

ohh you play with kr voice pack

[thorn sluice]

[thorn sluice]

@bold aspen do u play with kr voice pack too?

[nova marlin]

got it yesterday night drunk luck ftw ;d

on my non gold char ^_^

[thorn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/but-i’m-not-original-gif-4077672862622552877

[nova marlin]

last week also mass increase on that char lol

🇩🇪

[thorn sluice]

Ye now stop flexing

[nova marlin]

I'm so behind in the game so don't worry 😄

[thorn sluice]

Btw jokes apart, how many new legendary selection card packs do you guys have ?

[nova marlin]

I have like 2 but I do have like 5%+ on all stuffs and max demon

except new cards

[thorn sluice]

[thorn sluice]

It’s not for that

Selections are good for the new card sets

[stark sky]

3 selectors

[thorn sluice]

There will be gatekeep later

Back to card set gatekeep , it’s coming guys

Do you like it

[thorn sluice]

I have 3 too we can get selectors only from events right ?

[wind dagger]

Y'all still playing Lost Ark

[thorn sluice]

What game u play

[wind dagger]

Hen Tai Simu Lator 27.5

Good game

[thorn sluice]

[vagrant cradle]

[uncut dirge]

damn

he slapped thaemine for like 1.7bil with bear form's last hit

[mystic basin]

I'm making bear ayaya

[weak moat]

he has 1 piece of aegir armor

so it makes it more impressive

[uncut dirge]

well they have ark passive

[weak moat]

but he has permanent shield lol

[uncut dirge]

and he's like 1690-1700

[weak moat]

he has the same tankyness as blue gunlancer

which makes it more crazy

[uncut dirge]

maybe that 1.7 bil was last hit of hyper awaken i wasn't paying enough attention

[thorn sluice]

[uncut dirge]

he did hit another 1 bil hit another time tho and seems to hit like 800m+ frequently

[weak moat]

that burst is fast

nah his hyper does 5b

[supple parrot]

Meanwhile, nova dropping 2.6 bil doomsdays

[uncut dirge]

seems like it's like wd/summoner

where you build up meter then slap hard once

[weak moat]

ya

[dim lark]

why the fuck is chuan here

[weak moat]

its wardancer/summoner

[dim lark]

🤮

[thorn sluice]

Does it surprise u? When did they release a class that isn’t broken

[weak moat]

2.6b doomsday is nothing

[thorn sluice]

[cunning mesa]

[supple parrot]

Back from my vacation

[uncut dirge]

the last ayaya

[weak moat]

the bear is about to slap for 10b when he is fully geared

[uncut dirge]

was pretty mediocre

and still is

[thorn sluice]

They nerfed

Ofc

Like they did with the last fighter

It was giga broken

[supple parrot]

Breaker is still op

[thorn sluice]

Like this bear shit

[thorn sluice]

Asura got nerfed hard

But bk does still a lot dmg

[cosmic flame]

Chuan takes are back

[uncut dirge]

2 billion hit

[dim lark]

🤮

[uncut dirge]

after a bunch of regular hits

probably did 3+bil total

maybe even towards 4bil

[dim lark]

are you watching whales?

[uncut dirge]

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJEMzOVQEm4

[cunning mesa]

[dim lark]

they deal 5b dps on any class

[uncut dirge]

@supple parrot what's your deadeye at

[weak moat]

wait

he has 64k gold

he literally spent 10m

[uncut dirge]

he just diedlmao

[weak moat]

on the class

[modest lichen]

[supple parrot]

1667 or something. Havent honed. He have enuf mats for 1670

[uncut dirge]

nice

did you make an ignite char on the same roster?

[supple parrot]

Was on vacay for 5 weeks. Used the pass on a 1640 alt that i transfered from ignite

[uncut dirge]

nice

i guess 5 week vacation is pretty long

[thorn sluice]

Idk how this guy goes for 5weeks vacation while having a job

[supple parrot]

Now im behind

[thorn sluice]

Who tf let you going on vacation for 5 fucking weeks

[supple parrot]

U get 2 week for holidays

Just have to get another 3 off

[thorn sluice]

[modest lichen]

[thorn sluice]

You corrupted some1

[uncut dirge]

he roster 200 yet?

[supple parrot]

My alt roster? No

Like 150 something

[uncut dirge]

huh interesting

but i guess single char and you're not really interested in horizontal anyway

[supple parrot]

I dont do dailies much on alt roster

And no horizontals

Still missing skill pt

[thorn sluice]

Imagine playing EW with missing SP

[weak moat]

wait

he got MVP

even after dying

LOL

[uncut dirge]

i thought it was the other one?

[thorn sluice]

Is that surprising

[uncut dirge]

but i think you're right

[thorn sluice]

The new class is broken

[supple parrot]

Only like 8 pts or w.e

[weak moat]

thats him

[uncut dirge]

nurfed before we get it

[cosmic flame]

EW is fun but no goldge for gems

[weak moat]

EW fun

??

[cosmic flame]

And chuan refuses to fund me with his f2p+ methods

[weak moat]

none of the gunslinger in this game is fun

[cosmic flame]

https://tenor.com/view/rippuwallettu-pepe-wallet-wallet-empty-rip-wallet-gif-23844969

[thorn sluice]

Yes it’s a lot fun

[supple parrot]

Ew is fun

[weak moat]

no its not

[supple parrot]

U play a midget

[cosmic flame]

Because you suck

[thorn sluice]

Said by an artist main badge

[supple parrot]

The fuck u know about funn

[thorn sluice]

Ofc it’s not fun

[cosmic flame]

And only play midget

[dim lark]

he was on break, bot farms probably out of service

[weak moat]

I play highest APM class

I know whats fun

gunners aren't fun

[thorn sluice]

U don’t

[bright whale]

[cosmic flame]

???? He doesn’t cheat

[weak moat]

its a hassle to play

[thorn sluice]

[bright whale]

@thorn sluice

how u doin my fav euc whale

[supple parrot]

High apm does not = fun. If u want high apm go play rts then. The apm is low in this game

[thorn sluice]

what

Im doing well I didn’t play for almost 2 months

Im behind now

[weak moat]

wut

my class is an RTS class

[cosmic flame]

After seeing snark’s gold I feel poor

https://tenor.com/view/rippuwallettu-pepe-wallet-wallet-empty-rip-wallet-gif-23844969

[thorn sluice]

I have 600k

[cosmic flame]

I saw the green number

Yea sure buddy

[thorn sluice]

After saving it for idk how much time

[cosmic flame]

Green 600k

[thorn sluice]

Green

[supple parrot]

600k what

[cosmic flame]

600k billion

[thorn sluice]

I have 600k gold and 190m silvers

[bright whale]

[thorn sluice]

[faint grove]

paladin is the most fun class

[bright whale]

i have 170k

im poor

[supple parrot]

How u so broke

[bright whale]

@cosmic flame

[supple parrot]

[thorn sluice]

I played cyberpunk and poe2 after

[cosmic flame]

Last time I checked

It was 40k

How tf u have 160k u whale

[bright whale]

[thorn sluice]

I got bored of poe2 when I reached endgame so I came back to lostark

[bright whale]

snork

[faint grove]

poe2 endgame is trash, campaign was kinda fun

[cosmic flame]

Poe is trash

[thorn sluice]

It’s not trash

Just a different game

[cosmic flame]

God bless ags and loa

Nah I’ll glaze ags till the day they ban me

[supple parrot]

Poe seasonal game

[faint grove]

no reason to play poe2 in its current iteration though when poe1 is superior in every aspect

[supple parrot]

Snark u 1690 yet?

[torn ether]

should i come back and leave again after 3 months

[supple parrot]

No. Just mail me ur gold and gems

And uninstall

[thorn sluice]

I honed to 1680 my main recently , I need more gold to buy accs too

I want mid/good rolls accs

Which are expensive af

[faint grove]

just wait for brel to crash prices

[thorn sluice]

[torn ether]

nah

[supple parrot]

Accs are cheap af dude. Just buy low ones…

Dont buy mid lol

I just have all lows

[thorn sluice]

Why

[supple parrot]

Just bought another set of all lows on alt

[dim lark]

bro got 20m for free but just hit 1680

[supple parrot]

Price will drop again after brel. Buy lows for now

[thorn sluice]

I saw a YouTube video where a guy said mid rolls accs are worth to buy in terms of investment / price

[supple parrot]

Wtf

Cant say r word?

[faint grove]

indeed

[thorn sluice]

U can’t

[supple parrot]

Dont watch dumb videos

[faint grove]

its offensive in 2025 apparently

[torn ether]

is there any events rn

[supple parrot]

Trust me. Buy lows

[faint grove]

trust me, buy nothing unless you're planning to do hardmode

[supple parrot]

Right now lows are 20k ea. mids are 60-100k

Nah. Full set of lows only 100k

Will double ur dmg

Worth it

[thorn sluice]

u rly have lows ?

No decent lines on rings ?

[supple parrot]

I have 2 poeces with mid on main.

Rest all lows

On alt i have all lows

[thorn sluice]

Since it’s my main

I need at least 2 mid

[faint grove]

only purpose of buying ancient jewelry at 1680 would be if you can't get into aegir parties without

[supple parrot]

Nah just buy all lows. Upgrade after pricr drop after brel. And send the lows to ur alt

[queen grail]

when does all low double your damage? So you go from 100mil to 200mil from a bit of extra crit/dmg/addmg?

[faint grove]

depends on rolls on his relic pieces

[thorn sluice]

We can send accs to alts if I bought them from market ?

[faint grove]

but probably like a 10-15% dps increase

[supple parrot]

Yes. As long as there is trades left

[thorn sluice]

[queen grail]

The biggest increase from what I know comes from the points, the substats help but ye, maybe more like 10% if he had zero +rolls on old items.

[faint grove]

yeah points are like 10-15% dps increase

think some classes get a lot more out of them

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[supple parrot]

Doubles ur dmg from using rando relics. Ancient lows are basically same price as ancirnts with 0 dmg lines. Might as well get one with low dmg line

Upgrading to full ancient is a must for all 1680 dps. Its a huge boost for 100k gold

[faint grove]

but again when prices are projected to crash in the very near future then no reason to buy ancients at all, maybe just 1 to unlock 4th line

unless you're doing brel hm and need the damage

[supple parrot]

Bruh its alrdy 20k a piece… 100k total. It costs way more than that to home

I mean idk about u. But there is no shot im accepting a 1680 for hm aegir if they are too cheap to buy 20k accesories

[faint grove]

yeah thats what i said earlier only other purpose would be if u cant get into aegir

[uncut dirge]

zeals doing echidna

https://www.twitch.tv/zealsambitions

[uncut dirge]

how many ancient accessories do you expect

[faint grove]

i'm super picky with my aegirs too atm after that one week a bunch of frenchies jailed my paladin

[supple parrot]

Full… its 20k a pop bro

[uncut dirge]

oh idk

since i stopped playing after a while and came back with ignite

my ignite char is my highest

[supple parrot]

It cosrs over 500k raw gold to hone 1660 to 1680

Just spend the 100k on accs

[uncut dirge]

so you will understand if they're poor!

[tulip charm]

why would you not buy this? and wdym if it crash, if it crash it crash? how much gold you lose 10k?
1low roll fully cut is already like 25k each

[supple parrot]

Dont hone then

[uncut dirge]

i'm just surprised because there are so many people i see that are 1680

that have like 3 relics

[supple parrot]

100k is nothing for ppl with 1680 alts

[supple parrot]

20k. I just buy full set on my gl today

[faint grove]

in korea fully cut mid rolls are 5k each so yeah you're projected to lose a decent amount + pheons if you buy garbage at this point

[uncut dirge]

im thinking of pushing to 1680 for brel patch

[tulip charm]

so....your content to use garbage for the next 10 months until we have korean prices...?

[uncut dirge]

if we get new chaos with it

[supple parrot]

So u lose like 100k gold to do 30% more dmg for a month. When we are making like 400k a week

[faint grove]

its not 30%

its 10%

[tulip charm]

wat?

[faint grove]

maybe 15% if you're being generous

[supple parrot]

Its defin more than 10% lmao

[supple parrot]

For full reliv vs full ancient?

[uncut dirge]

@supple parrot is zerk weak or strong with full ark passive?

[dim lark]

cmon bro are you stupid? it's at least 10.01%

[supple parrot]

Im playing bt. Its ok right now. But we rly need brel bracelet to get the node for t skill buff thing

[faint grove]

if they have equal rolls its probably somewhere around 12-13% i imagine but since you're downgrading by buying garbage ancients its prolly 10%

[thorn sluice]

Looks like all his dmg comes from the fox ? I don’t see the bear

[faint grove]

and if you're significantly downgrading its prolly closer to 6-7%

[thorn sluice]

[uncut dirge]

i saw that other guy

[tulip charm]

not everyone plays clash of clans, not saying people should gear up for 2 high lines per acc, but baseline 3 garbo line vs 1 low line is literally no price difference, gear up, its not hard
this is like people listening to zeals saying "t3 bracelets will be worthless in t4" so they used their 1 line bracelet for 1 year because koreans have t4 bracelet

[uncut dirge]

and he blasted real hard with bear

i think it depends on which skills you pick?

[thorn sluice]

[supple parrot]

I mean. It feels alot higher than that

[uncut dirge]

oh wait

but he's playing the spirit beast one isn't he

nvm

[faint grove]

just look at the numbers bro

it feels higher because you've been upping your armor to ancient and shit at the same time so it gives you a placebo effect of gaining massive dps when in reality its only due to you unlocking full ark passive over time

[supple parrot]

I mean even if it is 10%. Thats alot… los 30 to 18 is less than that

Its very noticeable dmg

100k is nothing now

[faint grove]

i'm not saying its unreasonable to upgrade, think i'd pick mids over lows though

[thorn sluice]

Nothing?

[supple parrot]

Ppl were bidding 100k on select just to get los30 a week faster

[tulip charm]

there is no way its 10%, its way more

[supple parrot]

I mean we make 400k a week or more now

[faint grove]

i mean you can just look at the numbers

[thorn sluice]

I don’t do g4

[supple parrot]

Ok loser

[thorn sluice]

And I raid with 5 chars not 6

[faint grove]

maybe some classes gain massive dps from 4th line idk but for the ones that only gain raw damage from 4th line it aint that much

[thorn sluice]

[supple parrot]

Those are ur choices

[tulip charm]

you know whats kinda wierd? there is supp players out there with 2 or 3 piece acc

and they are adamant on thats all supp needs

[uncut dirge]

maybe he doesn't have 6 1640+ chars

[faint grove]

supp only needs 1 ancient piece.

[tulip charm]

like wtf dont cheap out

[thorn sluice]

I have 7 1640

But 2 are rats

And I got bored of paladin

[supple parrot]

Its better to have relic with high roll than ancient with low i think

[thorn sluice]

So I play with 5

[supple parrot]

On suppory

[thorn sluice]

Untill female pala

[faint grove]

this is correct.

[uncut dirge]

im wondering if i should hone my single char ignite roster char that's 1640

[supple parrot]

Its obv better to have ancient with high

But thats expensive

[thorn sluice]

U talking about sups ?

[uncut dirge]

it'll cost me about 80-100k raw gold to hone to 1660 and fusion mats

[supple parrot]

Yes

[faint grove]

its not even better

[supple parrot]

It is. U get better qol

[faint grove]

supp gains basically nothing from more than 1 ancient

[tulip charm]

you gonna be like the supp in stoopz's static, they fund his honing and gems, he use the handouts to buy gems for all his other char, shows up with lv5 t4 supp gems in raid and troll lel

[supple parrot]

More mana and shit afaik

[faint grove]

yeah its really insignificant

[supple parrot]

Inmean its still better

I didnt say its alot better

[faint grove]

a properly built supp should have 1 ancient earring + high relics

[supple parrot]

All high roll ancients

[faint grove]

i mean theres a reason high-high supp relics go for like 400k+ a piece

[tulip charm]

a properly built supp should have full ancient, with at least mid roll on brand necklace, which is like 30k
2 decent double ally rings, which is also like 30k each
and the earrings literally dosn't have anything so it could be anything

[faint grove]

completely wrong

only an idiot supp would go for mid ancient instead of high relic

[supple parrot]

Zheng u know a high roll relic neck is literally betyer right

U need high roll brand on neck

[uncut dirge]

ok guys

i need advice on how to dmg mvp in behemoth on NE

[supple parrot]

Or be like rosey and use a high roll ancient neck

[faint grove]

and earrings should ideally be wp%

[supple parrot]

Attro on head

[uncut dirge]

yeah but how do you hold damage for head

meter is depleting

[tulip charm]

earring literally have nothing on there, its like shield/healing lines for 2% or something, your best line on earring for supp is actually flat weapon power and weapon power %, but that sht is expensive

[uncut dirge]

since T skill is only used in soul form

[faint grove]

you rat on wings

or you play summoner and get free mvp

[uncut dirge]

yeah but you gotta keep meter high enough

so you can blast head to trigger soul mode too

full moon was great and easy but on NE the meter just goes away slowly

[supple parrot]

Play destroyer. Slam head for 5 bil x2

Ez mvp

[faint grove]

destro is so fun

cant wait to 1680 it one day

[dusk storm]

hit 1680 and exit when you want

[uncut dirge]

or maybe i should take the pink T skill i guess

[strange lintel]

Yeah it does go away but u can do 2 quick full meter skills that give u a lot meter

[supple parrot]

Gonna hone my destroyer to 1680 this weekend

[strange lintel]

Like u can stop on the last part of the rotation

If u want to rat and use full on guilotine and sythe

[faint grove]

bracelet gonna make t-skill hella nice to use i imagine with the built in push+kd immunity

[uncut dirge]

oh yeah i got a question on big echidna

does she always take stagger damage

or are there moments where she doesn't take stagger damage

cause sometimes it feels like the stagger takes an eternity

other times it's really fast

[faint grove]

pretty sure theres omments where she doesnt take stagger dmg

or its reduced

[uncut dirge]

yeah i think so too

[tulip charm]

they all think brel is coming on the 22nd
full rest gauge is 10 days
gonna try to self cut a 2line t4 bracelet before prog

[uncut dirge]

also why is the thar timing important

[faint grove]

because sometimes if i thar 1-2 seconds later than usual it feels like it takes forever to stagger her

[uncut dirge]

i know that you want to do it so that the clash gives you meter back

but why not use it before then

[faint grove]

so you dont accidentally stagger it before you get your bars back

[uncut dirge]

yeah, me and a few friends have theorized that something like that is going on

cause it genuinely seem slike sometimes stagger is 2x as fast or more

[uncut dirge]

ah i see

[supple parrot]

We will get nerfed brel anyways

[strange lintel]

We wont

[tulip charm]

obligatory 20% raid hp nerf for NA

also start that new una daily asap i think

takes a week to finish the una, gets you a item that lets you skip mechanics in g1 brel

[faint grove]

think as long as you send thar at the 17/16 second mark its fine, any later and it might get reduced

[uncut dirge]

wait what

[supple parrot]

they nerfed every single raid we got

[faint grove]

they literally said we wont

[strange lintel]

Did u not watch anything they said

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

there is a una item you get that lets you skip mechanics in g1 brel raid

[supple parrot]

No. I was on vacation. Just got back

[dusk storm]

doesn't the new system we get just make the raid easier after every clear?

[uncut dirge]

does everyone need to have it

or is it just one person

[faint grove]

pretty sure its a manual system where they'll prolly nerf it slightly after next maint xdd

[supple parrot]

I mean if they dont nerf it. They will give us more power source making it easier

[tulip charm]

also i know normal req is 1670, but NO ONE is gonna take 1670s, even if your in a static its gonna feel weird to send 1670s, just hone to 1680

[supple parrot]

[dusk storm]

lol

[faint grove]

tons of people will take 1670s lol, such as the other 1670s

[strange lintel]

There is new sytem that nerfs it over time but on release it will be kr difficulty

[uncut dirge]

there's no way

[supple parrot]

The una? They prob gonna give it to us before brel tbh

[faint grove]

they prolly wont

[uncut dirge]

people thought that brel might come out next week

so maybe not

or maybe brel doesn't come out on the 15th, but 22nd instead

[dusk storm]

big updates are usually tied to even calendar reset

[tulip charm]

i am just being real, the power between 1670 and 1680 is huge, and why would you leave a char at 1670 anyways? literally nothing in that zone
you either have 1680 or you leave your char at 1640

[supple parrot]

Like the 1620 on ilvl groups bitching on reddit?

[faint grove]

brel is most likely 22nd

[uncut dirge]

because honing that last bit is giga expensive

[queen grail]

Sup can even get away with 0

[faint grove]

at this point i dont think so

[supple parrot]

Is it tho. Its like 400k if u have buy half the mats

[thorn sluice]

What is condensed DPS numbers ? It’s an option ?

[uncut dirge]

430k + 280k in fusion mats

[faint grove]

means multi hit numbers get stacked into 1 big number

[tulip charm]

its expensive yes, but at least doable, the hit rate is 8%, for 15, 16, while hard, is doable, unlike 17, 18% for 1690 that sht is way to expensive

[uncut dirge]

you also need over 5k leaps

[thorn sluice]

It’s an option I can put in game ?

[faint grove]

we dont have it yet

[thorn sluice]

[supple parrot]

Raw gold only is like 250k when i checked

[faint grove]

1670-1680 is like a mill gold, people acting like its cheap xdd

[uncut dirge]

or i guess you could advanced hone
330k raw gold + 452k in fusion mats and 4.3k leaps

[dusk storm]

who is buying all those fusion though don't people just craft em overtime

[queen grail]

It'd not exactly going to be such a massive difference on sup vs dps in terms of team-dps increase Personally I'm waiting for a market crash to buy a lot.

[uncut dirge]

it's still the same thing though

whether you craft it yourself or buy them

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[uncut dirge]

it's only a 5% difference

[supple parrot]

I bought 3k orehas today

[faint grove]

i know but if some1 cant even be bothered buying a single 20k piece im gatekeeping their ass

[supple parrot]

Didnt wanna wait

[queen grail]

Everyone in this channel is delulu on how much stuff cost on honing.

[thorn sluice]

in the market ?

How much gold was that

[uncut dirge]

like whether you craft and sell

[tulip charm]

clash of clan players dont have time to teleport to their stronghold and click 5 buttons to craft and wait
they just buy 100k fusions instead

[supple parrot]

Ya. I also have full crafts going. I boughht em at 68g each

[uncut dirge]

or craft and keep the difference is only really the 5% listing fee

[thorn sluice]

Eu sell at 80g

[uncut dirge]

not to mention that the main cost of these fusion mats crafting is raw gold anyway

[supple parrot]

Losers

[faint grove]

eu orehas has been like 10g profit per craft for ages

been making bank from it

[tulip charm]

BOUND only, except bard

[queen grail]

i mean, high rolls relics is more supporting than low/no rolls ancients.

Tho for sure you could go a zero node ear but still little gain.

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-totally-free-grady-smith-it-is-entirely-free-it's-free-of-charge-gif-13058500461027536998

[supple parrot]

If i didnt miss 5 weeks of dailies

[queen grail]

Shut the fuck up, you always lying like a moron

[faint grove]

yeah im expecting a 0 roll earring from supps

[supple parrot]

I woulda been able to make 1680 off bounds

Ezily

[hallow granite]

Guys im goldriver who wants free gems

[supple parrot]

1680 off bounds is completely doable (shards and leaps)

[queen grail]

Zero roll ears last I checked was quite high also, highest dead-roll out of all feelsbad.

[faint grove]

leaps nah unless you already had 1630 prepatch

[tulip charm]

do you need my ssn and my gift cards for free gems?

[queen grail]

People always lie like shits on their "honing",

[supple parrot]

I missed 5 weeks of dailies and i ran out of bound blues at around 1670 and ran out of bound leaps at around 1675

[glossy bane]

how many free oreha do we get with the new KR express?
want my new artist full 20 advance honing with new class release

[uncut dirge]

this is the way

i've decided to only hone with bound fusion mats

24 per week

in 200 weeks i'll have enough to hone to 1680!

[tulip charm]

no, you make your own via logging

[uncut dirge]

yeah but even if i make my own i could sell em for gold

so it's basically gold loss either way

[supple parrot]

U realize it still costs u even if u log ur own. Opportunity cost of not selling them

Economics 101

[cunning mesa]

people always hone so much but i do 2 taps with a week' sworth of farm and run out of bounds

[uncut dirge]

also the main cost of fusion mats is gold anyway

to craft em

[tulip charm]

tax evasion instead, just use the ones you self craft

[uncut dirge]

wait that might not be true

[glossy bane]

entire roster is bound only outside of oreha

[faint grove]

main cost is logs

[uncut dirge]

it might be like 50% gold

[faint grove]

lol

[tulip charm]

👌

[supple parrot]

Most of thr gold cost is crafting fees anyways

[tulip charm]

wait, i just realized, did you buy the new stronghold structure for for like 100bc?

[dense abyss]

brel when

[tulip charm]

its like the old cannon structure

they recently put it in the shop

idk if its still there

[supple parrot]

No. I just came back

[faint grove]

missing out

can also get great success pet for an extra 3%

[uncut dirge]

yeah it's about 35g per stone that's in raw gold

and 35g is logs

[faint grove]

its 350g per craft?

[tulip charm]

well, that great succ is not multiplicative, but still every littlebit matters

[uncut dirge]

well it's 400g base

then minus cost reduction

[faint grove]

yeah ik, but we take what we get lol

[uncut dirge]

you can get to about 348?

if you have max reduction i think

[faint grove]

fair then

[uncut dirge]

do you need to use the pet

to get the bonus

like do i need to swap to that pet before i craft every time

[faint grove]

you need to put it in the stronghold thing

[supple parrot]

[uncut dirge]

so i dont needto use that specific pet to get the bonus?

[faint grove]

no

[uncut dirge]

is that the case for the dps ones too?

[faint grove]

yes

[uncut dirge]

so you can get the bonus damage from 3 pets at once?

[tulip charm]

no idea on how many oreha's, you have infinite gold via bussing anyways

[supple parrot]

U have to place them in the thing

[faint grove]

yes

[uncut dirge]

o damn

can i run 3 logging pets

or will they interfere

eg rare on one, uncommon on other

[tulip charm]

they don't work

[supple parrot]

U habe to place diff ones

[tulip charm]

the logging pet is for stronghold farm only

[uncut dirge]

i see

[faint grove]

yeah you can as long as they're 3 different types

[supple parrot]

how u know less than me

[faint grove]

but its stronghold only

[uncut dirge]

wait what

really?

[tulip charm]

[uncut dirge]

so the logging pets are useless?

[faint grove]

if you're not collecting from stronghold then yes

[uncut dirge]

goddamit

i made like 10 lege pets to get all of them

[tulip charm]

yea, dosn't do anything, all the farm stuff is jank, since stronghold farm only, the mini pets is like 95% pet ranch, 5% dock, i don't think you get anything out of farming at all

[glossy bane]

ya but i wanna prepare now since oreha gonna spike once class released

rn oreha are at 36g

[faint grove]

im not worried

[supple parrot]

only worjs if u collect in sh like me

[tulip charm]

[uncut dirge]

i've been logging on multiple rosters

consistently

[tulip charm]

is it gonna spike on powerpass? i thought it only spikes when bots get banned, and this banwave is long overdue

[uncut dirge]

once i realized that you get like 5x less from stronghold or something

and that logging gold per minute is almost equal to some raiding

[glossy bane]

i dont think alot of ppl are honing t3 rn
so it shouldnt spike until new class

[supple parrot]

But its borijg

[uncut dirge]

the other day i did a logging session

for all the energy pots i had saved up since the start of the game

well, what i had left anyway

took almost 2 hours

but got 91k worth of logs

[hallow granite]

https://tenor.com/view/amm-gif-8242971159485088966

[uncut dirge]

175k energy, and used about 125k leap essence too tho

axe went from 98 max dura to 41

[low nebula]

pog https://www.twitch.tv/saintone/clip/SmellyGlutenFreeAmazonGivePLZ-RGahZBNoDvRD5KB0

[tulip charm]

how much do you think clothing store owners will sell wildsoul skins for

you think this class will surpass breaker/se in popularity on NA?

[uncut dirge]

depends on how OP it is

if it's OP then maybe

if it's not OP then the skins might not sell well

considering amazon's track record of censoring skins

[supple parrot]

Isnt it an ayaya class. Will be popular with alot the weirdos

[uncut dirge]

like the latest skins on artists look pretty bad

[cosmic flame]

Yes

[uncut dirge]

because they all have the same pants so i dont think they sell well

at least i barely ever see them used

but since class seems pretty decent in damage there's a chance

[cosmic flame]

Ayaya’s ugly

Can’t make them look good

Best looking artist I’ve ever seen is xdding

The rat

[uncut dirge]

i think if the make some good transformation skins or something

that might sell

like bear firing lasers n shit

i'm sad other classes haven't got the facial expression stuff that specialist has

[thorn sluice]

Where can I find the full balance patch ?

[uncut dirge]

what is war soul

breaker?

[thorn sluice]

[steep mortar]

Its an Ayaya. It will be in a suit of sorts. The Argos skin drop was actually at the perfect time for that and sorta fits the theme.

[thorn sluice]

Wild soul

[uncut dirge]

china got wild soul before us?!

1.5 MONTHS before us?!

[tulip charm]

cn flagship this class, they did the same for aero they got exclusive cn buffs in that region

[thorn sluice]

Don’t know

[uncut dirge]

is it because china didn't censor the skins or something

so they could actually release it on time

while we gotta wait 1.5 months

[thorn sluice]

[burnt tree]

This is exclusive to China

[uncut dirge]

like why are we delayed this long

[supple parrot]

It says male fighter

[thorn sluice]

I didn’t even distinguish that was china

[uncut dirge]

but yeah i think it's more like breaker or something

not wild soul

[thorn sluice]

I tought it was kr patch note

[burnt tree]

qq isn't a Korean domain

[supple parrot]

It literally has chinese in the picture

[burnt tree]

Aero in CN also has a 5% damage buff other regions don't have

[thorn sluice]

I tought it was Korean

[burnt tree]

Including KR

[supple parrot]

Racist

[thorn sluice]

[burnt tree]

Educate yourself better

[supple parrot]

And i thought a pizza was a pancake

[burnt tree]

[supple parrot]

[uncut dirge]

pizza dough and pancake dough are made from pretty different things, no?

[steep mortar]

Dunno how LOA is in terms of censorship, but usually China has really strict censorship criterias. Hence a lot of Gacha games have specific China Versions.

[uncut dirge]

oh wait, maybe the savory pancake stuf fisn't

[supple parrot]

Flour?

[uncut dirge]

sorry i'm used to only sweet pancakes (crepes)

so sugar is a major ingredient

[burnt tree]

LOA in CN is censored yes

[uncut dirge]

wtf

i'm watching a chinese lost ark stream

the text is in chinese but audio is in russian

wut

[steep mortar]

Ye doesnt surprise me.

[burnt tree]

You sure you aren't watching a CN player play RU

[uncut dirge]

when did china get thaemine

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[supple parrot]

I mean our version is censored too

[uncut dirge]

well the titles and text is in chinese

[supple parrot]

[safe lark]

good Kae didnt turn maintenance mode on

thanks Kae

[burnt tree]

Everything is censored in CN

Not just the midgets

[supple parrot]

[uncut dirge]

this aint no russian i've ever seen

[steep mortar]

I dont mind our version being censored for the child class. I just hate how lazy they are doing it just putting bloomers on every Ayaya skin.

[uncut dirge]

oh yeah i guess they could be using the translation patch

like we used to

[burnt tree]

You said the text is Chinese but the voice over is Russian

[uncut dirge]

well both can be changed

[burnt tree]

Not every Chinese player moved on Censored Ark

[uncut dirge]

i used KR voice over when i played on RU and changed text to english

so i guess you're right, it's probably on RU

[burnt tree]

Also t4 shards

CN doesn't have T4

[uncut dirge]

ohhh

i see

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[uncut dirge]

huh interesting bus

they do G2 in normal

then go back to hard mode

[supple parrot]

Too dumb to counter

[uncut dirge]

yeah it's RU

i saw russian names

[low nebula]

they cute af, so i guess when wildsoul hits market would be weird

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2347246834?t=1h1m2s

[steep mortar]

Maybe they dont know about the HA Tech for counters.

[uncut dirge]

i heard it doesn't work in hard mode

because he doesn't become counterable if youd ontdo all 7 counters first

but i've never tried

[steep mortar]

Literally saw it. They used ts into HA with specific timings.

[uncut dirge]

atro on thaemine along with whirlwind

wut

oh early stagger

[cunning mesa]

wildsoul release might be my moment to make some good moneys

since im not really pushing one

[uncut dirge]

oh wow they dont expect buyers to do stagger at all

[thorn sluice]

@burnt tree look I found an exclusive bear skill https://tenor.com/view/lazy-lol-bear-fart-gif-14003479342335942593

[uncut dirge]

no timestop in a bus tho, i'm surprised

[thorn sluice]

Which synergy does wild soul have ?

[uncut dirge]

i think itwas armor reduction

[thorn sluice]

[steep mortar]

So Summoner Destro Reaper one?

[burnt tree]

yup

[bright whale]

servers are ||eh||

[burnt tree]

ure not funny also blocked again cause uve been irritating with wild soul

[wind dagger]

Good convo with potential internship place

[uncut dirge]

nice!

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[burnt tree]

this guy will use server status every5 minites

istg

[thorn sluice]

[weak moat]

where is patch note?

[burnt tree]

theres no patch notes

5hr maint thats it

[lost turtle]

All this for nothing?

[thorn sluice]

Yes

So what

[weak moat]

not even

we fixed a bug note?

[cunning mesa]

i never understood why we can use that command here XD people are bound to spam it instead of waiting

[burnt tree]

yeah idk

[thorn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/lazy-lol-bear-fart-gif-14003479342335942593

[steep mortar]

Also spent Money in the bonus room. Now!

[burnt tree]

id be worried about it after 5 hours had passed

not 3

[steep mortar]

I love how they are always make it sound when a new shop thingy releases like they do us a favor

[sly light]

is brel release today?

[wind dagger]

Did you pull Carlotta

[burnt tree]

yea

[sly light]

oh

[wind dagger]

Something else gonna release ,but it's not brel

[sly light]

mods

[bright whale]

mods why?

[burnt tree]

next patch is in 2 weeks

[cunning mesa]

[bright whale]

he didnt answer yes 2 u

[burnt tree]

till then just normie maint

[bright whale]

brel release is in either 2 weeks or 3 weeks

im guessing 29th

[steep mortar]

And since we didnt get an anouncement yet most likely not next week either.

[bright whale]

since we normally have raid news 2 weeks before.

[lost turtle]

When next ayaya coming out

[burnt tree]

february

for kr it released today

[wind dagger]

Wanna see it?

[burnt tree]

22nd

[wind dagger]

[cunning mesa]

ofc not

[steep mortar]

I reckon the 22nd. Since they probably wanna separate the Anniversary patch from that.

[cunning mesa]

keep that stinky thing away

[supple parrot]

Ban all ayayas

[burnt tree]

ban chuan

[wind dagger]

wanted to show you my collection of water fountain

[bright whale]

idk id agree but we didnt see announcement of raid yet, we normally have 2 weeks heads up.

[cunning mesa]

still keep it away

[burnt tree]

we just entered the "2 weeks"

[bright whale]

ok so

where announcement

saying brellussy soon

[supple parrot]

Inb4 brel in april