#lost-ark-discussions
wicked blade
@bold aspen I unironically gonna replace my OS without Google services 
Or buy Huawei
wicked blade
I wish for world to end
wicked blade
We are progressing
fresh flint
bro make us worms again
wicked blade
But in reverse
bold aspen
fresh flint
progressing in the wrong direction
wicked blade
Holy shit bring back 800's
fresh flint
wicked blade
fresh flint
we were going straight then went left and kept going left
now the line is zig zane and circles
wicked blade
People say "Oh but there were dark ages"
Son, dark ages were better then whatever shit 2024 is
fresh flint
bring back the boubonic plague
wicked blade
fresh flint
wicked blade
nah there was food sex and crusades
fresh flint
black plague and strippers
bold aspen
fresh flint
wicked blade
bold aspen
bold aspen
wtf are you watching man
fresh flint
I’m going to start talking like her
Sorry boss. Yas boss. How can I rectify my mistake…BOSS!
wicked blade
Sorry boss. Yas boss. How can I rectify my mistake…BOSS!
It is so cancer
@bold aspen Yo, wanna get rich?
bold aspen
no ty
wicked blade
I can cook some game for mentally ill people who like and use those apps
And we charge for using the app
AI girlfriend shit
@bold aspen
We hook them up with 14 days free trial
And then charge
dim lark
ok fuck this no more poe2 for me
wicked blade
ok fuck this no more poe2 for me
What happened?
bold aspen
And then charge
thats illegal sir
dim lark
i watched a few endgame videos on poe1 and it's kinda shit overall
wicked blade
i watched a few endgame videos on poe1 and it's kinda shit overall
U will spend thousand of hours to get there sir
dim lark
We hook them up with 14 days free trial
discord literally does that
dim lark
U will spend thousand of hours to get there sir
nah, im not spending shit, im not gonna play fuck it
dim lark
idk but raven right
wicked blade
tf did i do ????
Read above
It is not illegal to do that
We pray upon people forgetting to cancel, making super difficult to cancel or get them addicted @bold aspen
Not illegal 
bold aspen
wicked blade
<:WTF:1107022965645783112>
Yeah, we use OpenAI Api and I will cook up the UI
Ez money
Add image generation and vaola, done
wicked blade
bold aspen
no ty
bold aspen
bold aspen
wicked blade
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
bold aspen
sleep btw
bold aspen
wicked blade
I will sleep in few minutes
bold aspen
for* a few minutes
wicked blade
bold aspen
bold aspen
wicked blade
I need to finish my raids tomorrow, I will be away from PC whole week
Or... I can give u acc to play
Keep 58k gold in return
bold aspen
queen grail
bold aspen
Or... I can give u acc to play
sure gimme ill play
we do them together after reset if we dont finish give me ill do yours later
queen grail
Alysandra makes AI but can't figure out PC shit
I made AI make a code to make me money, I'm rich
bold aspen
queen grail
wicked blade
I made AI make a code to make me money, I'm rich <a:pepemoney:100299649822254700...
U will be poor in a week
wicked blade
Jokes on you! I'm already poor.
fresh flint
wicked blade
https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-1847501...
This gonna be some grind
bold aspen
wicked blade
6 more leg raid captain and im done with books
queen grail
kind lotus
https://tenor.com/view/i%27m-broke-%27big-nick%27-o%27brien-den-of-thieves-2-pan...
Broke with 2m gold
Feels bad man
queen grail
Broke with 2m gold
#1 Don't have 2 mil.
#2 Talking irl ya ding dong dingus.
kind lotus
Thats racist
wicked blade
https://tenor.com/view/ted-yeah-im-gonna-pass-pass-hard-pass-decline-gif-2723076...
Hey, I always pay my debt
I'm not Aron
queen grail
Shit, Intak needs glasses, he can't read 
wicked blade
queen grail
Hey, I always pay my debt
I'm just weird with ingame gold it just is what is is 
wicked blade
I'm just weird with ingame gold <:WeirdPaper:1034716538214821888> it just is wha...
Okay, paypal Intak 50$ so he can buy glasses instead 
queen grail
https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-gif-22252869
wicked blade
What the...
queen grail
Okay, paypal Intak 50$ so he can buy glasses instead <:PepoG:852994700721651722>
I don't have paypal, 
wicked blade
I don't have paypal, <:Hmmm:792261795603152916>
Do u have MySpace? 
queen grail
Myspace is a thing still?
queen grail
What the...
this is not doing anything.
queen grail
Why you lost a broken gif?
wicked blade
queen grail
wicked blade
What the...
This is when I board ocean liner
Screen gone black with loading icon
For 2min
Had to restart
queen grail
wicked blade
Hell nah
I have 37ms
Why do i need that
Nvm, it is a bit higher now
Nah, it is just game being poorly optimized
Yeah no... I will do that today
wicked blade
Yeah...
This game is
But why every other game works normally
Got it, AGS can't figure out AWS
Nevermind
It was EAC offline @distant swallow
uncut dirge
But why every other game works normally
because AGS is bad at networking
EAC offline is still on AGS
wicked blade
uncut dirge
if every other game works normally and amazon's doesn't then it is 100% on amazon
uncut dirge
which is why i find it surprising that they've let the EAC issue go unfixed for 2.5 years
wicked blade
Cuz Amazon owns AWS and they use AWS, like the biggest web service provider in the world?
I would expect them to hire someone who knows their own shit
Kinda does
turbid oriole
wicked blade
It is still the same entity, Amazon
They can transfer 1 employee from AWS to AGS
To do the work
Yes it does work like that
uncut dirge
https://www.amazongames.com/en-us/support/lost-ark/articles/troubleshooting-eac-issues
I really like this part
Make sure you set forward Ports 18887 – 18903 on your network to Open. If blocked, you will see periodic disconnections or failures to enter the world.
wicked blade
What the hell am I reading
analog path
is this trash ags hours
wicked blade
It literally kicks u out of the game to select screen
And u just re enter
It works
uncut dirge
is this trash ags hours
is it a day that ends in y?
wicked blade
The f is this garbage help
wicked blade
I legit got jailed in G2 Echidna because EAC offline @analog path
analog path
everytime i get EAC it boots out of the game
analog path
no i am on ethernet
uncut dirge
it's a game issue
analog path
Yep
uncut dirge
the only fix is to either get a new ISP
wicked blade
Sir, I'm on two networks If one goes out, it switches to another one
uncut dirge
or use one of the few VPNs that works with lost ark
uncut dirge
yes but they will never fix it
wicked blade
amazon has not discovered cgNAT exists yet
Bruh, wait, what???
uncut dirge
i mean come on
they're telling you to open ports on a router to fix a disconnection issue
if you're behind a cgNAT that isn't gonna do anything
analog path
bruh if you are correct on this
uncut dirge
so it's a meaningless sugggestion
turbid oriole
they're telling you to open ports on a router to fix a disconnection issue
might as well open your asshole so AGS can go deeper
uncut dirge
EAC problems didn't pop up until vykas patch for me
and have been consistent ever since
analog path
ok then that means instead of they don't know how to fix the problem
they don't know what the problem is
no?
uncut dirge
i can only play reasonably with a VPN
otherwise i just get DCd every few hours
and i'm just not risking that i forget to do it
wicked blade
If game tells me that I need to open port and it is not P2P, that means game server networking is garbage handled
analog path
i had a time when i would crash every 5 minutes in game
wicked blade
Yup
analog path
it is?
i already got it done
turbid oriole
analog path
the stories are all long
uncut dirge
voldis > praeteria > vairgrys island > arthetine
and this is just the very beginning
analog path
those are bs
uncut dirge
it probably has voice acting in korean tho
analog path
wicked blade
I mean this game has max 2-3y left
wicked blade
If same thing happeneds to the game for Brel 2.0 that happened on Brel 1.0... Game is EOS in a year
I quit around that time
uncut dirge
imagine
wicked blade
It is not doing fine
It is not doing good, it is not doing bad
It is bleeding players like crazy
Tho
uncut dirge
runescape online: 180k
lost ark: 13k
:(
nah the game can't become seasonal
not truly
uncut dirge
smilegate isn't competent enough for that kind of system design
uncut dirge
the events aren't that high value
analog path
it can only lose players
it will barely gain
uncut dirge
especially when you consider the nerfs to gold earning they do
uncut dirge
like it's literally harder to take characters at certain ilvl breakpoints now
analog path
more fomo than gachas
uncut dirge
than it used to be in the past
uncut dirge
because gold earnings are so much lower, but things like fusion mats and gold costs are still higher
analog path
don't you think loa is also bloated to hell
wicked blade
It is literally fomo
analog path
there is too much shit
wicked blade
Whoever says LOA is becoming seasonal is talking shit
analog path
imagine being new player
analog path
oh shit lol
wicked blade
If they gave LOS30, we would have such a better change of Ignite being success
But noooo
analog path
bro its fucking december too
wicked blade
Give DD30
analog path
😭
analog path
they don't play global
wicked blade
I think LOS30 is think in endgame in Korea aswell tho?
analog path
they play kr
wicked blade
turbid oriole
wicked blade
I know, but I was talking about cards in general
Card system is biggest Aid
More then elixirs and transc
analog path
wicked blade
analog path
they made them easier to finish though
analog path
to get LoS?
analog path
idk why i said "we"
wicked blade
U don't market shit for new/retuning players if it only benefits vets
Ignite marketing was dumb af
analog path
bold aspen
just gib los30
wicked blade
But Brel killed this game for me
wicked blade
It was downhill from there
Valtan and Vykas were goated
I loved doing it
Brel killed the game tho
analog path
he plays a few games
analog path
and league
wicked blade
I enjoy Lost Ark combat and exploration, but that doesn't excuse me from trash talking systems they add
Every new system feels like cash bait and gold sink
It is trully horiffic
woven turtle
I enjoy Lost Ark combat and exploration, but that doesn't excuse me from trash t...
We get it, it's not the game for u. Bye.
wicked blade
Idk how they keep getting away with that
wicked blade
We get it, it's not the game for u. Bye.
Ah they keep getting away because of people like this
turbid oriole
analog path
wdym getting away with
wicked blade
Do KR have a kink for trash and garbage systems?
analog path
Yes
turbid oriole
yes
turbid oriole
they literally have cheabols
analog path
that's why its successful-er in kr
wicked blade
turbid oriole
chaebols
woven turtle
Lol if u really don't like the game, don't play it, why give it more attention?
wicked blade
Lol if u really don't like the game, don't play it, why give it more attention?
Did u read a fucking sentence I said
analog path
because shit on lost ark = fun
wicked blade
woven turtle
because shit on lost ark = fun
fresh flint
POWDER COM BAC
analog path
he means not fun
wicked blade
@analog path Sadly, I'm not used to LOA community mentallity. In Warframe if u complain on forums or Discord and people agree with u, it gets attention of devs and it will be addressed
analog path
it is though, apparently
i like watching people do it
wicked blade
turbid oriole
<@339293310319329281> Sadly, I'm not used to LOA community mentallity. In Warfra...
go learn korean
wicked blade
Loawa?
analog path
lmao
turbid oriole
wicked blade
We get new update PvPvE
analog path
people on warframe are so fucking normal vs loa
fresh flint
@turbid oriole 
analog path
it is crazy
turbid oriole
<@543581295683567657> <:Isha:1309297765007888435>
analog path
wdym goblin
what makes me a discord goblin
wicked blade
I shit on Warframe stuff aswell, difference being. I don't get just don't play the game
People are like "Yeah, we should probably get attention of devs to that"
Difference in mentallity
fresh flint
analog path
idk i just play the game, it respects your time more than loa for sure
turbid oriole
People are like "Yeah, we should probably get attention of devs to that"
yeah koreans can do that
cuz they post on loawa
obtuse oyster
What can you expect from people who want an entirely different game that isn't Lost Ark
wicked blade
Oh the flack? Yeah, they wanted to add pay to skip story, and we united and smack them down for that
They never gone through and appologized
analog path
lmao what
turbid oriole
i will pass this on to the team
analog path
i don't play the game, this is just entertainment for me
i watch people shit on the game, and i watch the game burn, and i watch the community eat itself, that's all Lol
when i played the game yeah i would do that and i did do that. i cared about the game
turbid oriole
wicked blade
Solution is simple.
- Nerf weapon transcendence, make it roster wide. If needed decrease chance of getting it on grace 0,1 etc.
- Make pity for elixir system
- Add guaranteed pity drop from sources of leg card packs, add legendary selectors to chaos and guardians
fresh flint
https://tenor.com/boCw9.gif
me then you posted ishas song
wicked blade
I don't think I ask too much
fresh flint
fresh flint
wicked blade
They didn't touch cards
fresh flint
GOD WHY
wicked blade
Only T4 ones
fresh flint
wicked blade
Once again, only T4
cards
They didn't fix nothing for new/returning players
Or active players who still struggle with cards
They only increased sources for T4 cards
obtuse oyster
shorely
analog path
what about lower field boss
you can't really solo them and they have things you need from them
obtuse oyster
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS LOS CARDS TOOO
wicked blade
So... Including more cards inside it is better somehow?
Then keeping pool lower
lol
Loa player moment
analog path
what
wicked blade
Card packs epic/legendary now include T4 cards
That makes pool of cards that u can get wider
Which decreses chances for LOS30 cards
analog path
he's the smartest dumb person
wicked blade
Won't help with gatekeeping tho
People still think LOS30 = only good
Well not all
But a lot of them
keen copper
deny all non los 30 users 
obtuse oyster
And don't forget that they implemented 24 set, so it's not even as bad compared to the old days were it was either all or nothing
analog path
so they added new sets that use both old and new cards and they give the same set bonus?
yeah it used to be 18 and 30
wicked blade
And don't forget that they implemented 24 set, so it's not even as bad compared ...
People still gatekeep LOS24 heavily
Either LOS30 or nothing
analog path
i see
wicked blade
U sure about that
People gatekeep demon damage for some reason
Is that legit reason or just being braindead?
analog path
i think if loa player see 30 set they no gatekeep
analog path
do normies even know that demon damage does less to demons
woven turtle
obtuse oyster
I don't even remember when I look at cards
just check trans and elixirs
gems if I'm on rat partol
analog path
yeah the effects of cards are so low
wicked blade
just check trans and elixirs
Ur a good person 
wicked blade
I seen around 20 parties when I looked for Thaemine +dd
fresh flint
wicked blade
I will be honest, there should minimum requirment for X raid.
But people who gatekeep dd or titles are just...
analog path
yeah
wise pasture
what do you guys think is the chance of finding someone in G3 thaemine
About 40% per 30 mins
hot prairie
analog path
you guys have transc, elixir and shit now
i used to gatekeep just engrave gems quality
we didn't even look at cards
also higher roster good too
wise pasture
wicked blade
I'm getting to 1660, I have 2 x lvl 7 and all lvl 6's T4 gems, 126 flowers and set 40 elixir with decent stats (almost all is main stat + atk power + weapon power)
But LOS30 will take ages
More then getting all lvl 7 gems
obtuse oyster
it'll be like the most omega rat characters but they'll say "guys they are gatekeeping me cause of no los 30, guys they are gatekeeping cause of my class"
wicked blade
I'm mokoko, so not for now
wise pasture
I really dont see why people look at card collection status, it doesn't say anything
wicked blade
1655 sir
analog path
Lol
dense canyon
After hard amounts or copium, hoping that maybe on 14th we get some trans news, I manually did each piece yesterday. If they hit us with " trans is free now guys enjoy, sorry 🤡 " i'll legit jump
analog path
tbf
if you don't have los 30, it is very likely you are missing some other things too
wicked blade
tbf
if you don't have los 30, it is very likely you are missing some other thing...
I actually don't
I only miss los30
wise pasture
Like, we are so far in, I dont even see the point in checking card sets on 90% of people
dense canyon
tbf
if you don't have los 30, it is very likely you are missing some other thing...
Los 30 is vanity now
woven turtle
^this
dense canyon
24 works fine considering trans and elixirs are right
30 los, ok, 4% more dmg
It's not brel hard
It's thaemine
woven turtle
People complain so much when they apply to over ilvl parties on onilvl characters
dense canyon
Trans + elixirs are counting for much more than the 30 los
wicked blade
Can I get LOS effect from pets?
dense canyon
Well, difference from 24 to 30
analog path
4% dmg
you would get more damage if your like
fucking shadowhunter in your lobby decided to play better and applied their synergy twice as much compared to their 30% uptime
dense canyon
4% dmg
you would get more damage if your like
fucking shadowhunter in your lobby...
Yup
analog path
yeah LOL
wicked blade
Guys, should I switch to Hallucination?
wise pasture
Can I get LOS effect from pets?
No
analog path
yeah they are all generally like 8% dmg last i check
revenant has 12% back atk
i mean shit gunlancer
obtuse oyster
4% dmg
you would get more damage if your like
fucking shadowhunter in your lobby...
and with how handless this community is, los 30 compared to los 18 aint gonna be the difference of clearing and not clearing
dense canyon
People gatekeeping on los 30 vs los 24 are missing some things
wicked blade
I'm running Salvation rn@distant swallow
dense canyon
I look at trans > elixir > gems
analog path
revenant has 12% back atk
yo wait didn't they nerf that
dense canyon
And maybe weapon quality
But wep quality is so much more rng
That it's irrelevant
If more than 80, it's fine
analog path
nerfed 
wise pasture
I look at trans > elixir > gems
Ancient armor and jewellery at AP users, but that is only for aegir hm really needed
wise pasture
Fair
dense canyon
1660 we talk about AP
obtuse oyster
nerfed <:FeelsDumbMan:486880728945131520>
deserved, was op syn
dense canyon
If 1660 is not in AP there is a problem
analog path
i thought damage syns were 8%, not 6%
wicked blade
I think if I pay a bus for Aegir and get 2 pieces, I'm good to go with LOS24+lvl 7 and 6 T4's, all transc and elixirs done
I hope
dense canyon
nerfed <:FeelsDumbMan:486880728945131520>
Patch notes? I wanna check too. Where can I find?
wicked blade
Worst case I quit the game again
dense canyon
I think if I pay a bus for Aegir and get 2 pieces, I'm good to go with LOS24+lvl...
Los 24 should be baseline. Yes
cunning mesa
just do it 
dense canyon
You should be fine
analog path
Patch notes? I wanna check too. Where can I find?
no i think this is old news
its just that i'm not kept up so idk
wicked blade
Yay
obtuse oyster
i thought damage syns were 8%, not 6%
it was 3% general and 9% from positional
dense canyon
Don't bother too much with los 24 to 30
analog path
and they stack
dense canyon
It's legit 4% dmg
obtuse oyster
and they stack
yeah, with db so back attackers were getting 24% dmg increase
analog path
yeah, with db so back attackers were getting 24% dmg increase
truly
the back attack meta
dense canyon
I'm working my way there
I'm at los 26 equipped 29 full set. I feel you
I also have 11 selectors left
dense canyon
Nineveh and kaddan gatekeep me hard
dense canyon
If I remember correctly
wicked blade
I got super lucky in Abyssal Dungeons tho
dense canyon
Not on pc right now
analog path
card runs 
wicked blade
I got 4 selectors
fresh flint
used to love running card runs
wicked blade
So it is worth it for me
fresh flint
then i realized how aids it was
obtuse oyster
then i realized how aids it was
loading screen simulator
dense canyon
loading screen simulator
Yup
wicked blade
Main in 2h
analog path
remember that one event where you opened like event boxes and it could give selector boxes
obtuse oyster
remember that one event where you opened like event boxes and it could give sele...
frog
analog path
and it also gave a ton of engraving books
dense canyon
With the amount of selectors we got, everyone ( give or take ) should be los 24 at this point
analog path
frog!
dense canyon
Klc is irrelevant
analog path
dense canyon
Los24 baseline and work from that point upwards
fresh flint
loading screen simulator
that and the amount of people that are fucking mutes ingame...not worth
obtuse oyster
With the amount of selectors we got, everyone ( give or take ) should be los 24 ...
the klc fomo and gatekeeping during kaya as endgame content was 10/10
fresh flint
🔇
dense canyon
the klc fomo and gatekeeping during kaya as endgame content was 10/10
Man I was getting gatekept
Insanely
fresh flint
finally done s.kurzan
dense canyon
On Kayangel
wicked blade
i dont want to do north
North is super fast
dense canyon
Because people only wanted KLC
fresh flint
North is super fast
yeah but sleepy
obtuse oyster
Like, people were gatekeeping a raid they didn't even need the cards to clear and people were trying to justify a set that only was applicable to 1 raid
fresh flint
maybe i do tomorrow
dense canyon
And I didn't even bother farming KLC. The same way I am not bothering doing horizontals. I'. At 161 RL playing on and off since launch
Well, maybe 6 months after launch
I just cba farming rl
fresh flint
i HATED klc being a requirement for a fucking guardian and aby dg
dense canyon
Like, people were gatekeeping a raid they didn't even need the cards to clear an...
Kaya was aids tho
fresh flint
when it didnt fucking matter
wicked blade
fresh flint
i hear brel is pretty aids
fresh flint
something in brel2 has to be more aids
dense canyon
Brel hard is a dps check for whales
fresh flint
dense canyon
Well yea
obtuse oyster
Kaya was aids tho
the raid design for the gate is so cringe, what if we had bosses that can just tp as normal patterns with minimal windup
dense canyon
It will be a new raid
fervent ibex
i hear brel is pretty aids
ice brel? i hear its above aegir, below release-echidna, in terms of difficulty
fresh flint
i dont mind kaya at all tbh
dense canyon
the raid design for the gate is so cringe, what if we had bosses that can just t...
Kaya g3 as entropy
fresh flint
but g1 akkan is def my weakness
dense canyon
Loveable only by a mother
fresh flint
hate that stupid bitch
dense canyon
Not even that
obtuse oyster
but g1 akkan is def my weakness
g1 akkan is snooze
uncut dirge
ice brel? i hear its above aegir, below release-echidna, in terms of difficulty
what about compared to release brel hard
dense canyon
Wait rlly?
fresh flint
the tentacle monster
fervent ibex
what about compared to release brel hard
like g1-6 brel? idk nobody talks about it anymore lol
fervent ibex
the comparison was with current raids
fresh flint
i despise him
dense canyon
That's chill compared to kaya g1 / g3
uncut dirge
man
wise pasture
It has quite high dps check, rest is reasonably simple
uncut dirge
i was ratting this normal thaemine run
fresh flint
for entropoop i can see kaya 1/3 being aids but i like the raid as a whole
uncut dirge
and then i ran into a problem
dense canyon
Afk'ing for prokel
uncut dirge
no pants transcendence
dense canyon
Old g6
uncut dirge
was still able to kill it, but my heart definitely skipped a beat when the clone didnt instantly die when i smacked it
uncut dirge
prokel was fun to me too on a lot of classes
didnt like it on sorc initially tho
ended up being too slow for the 1v1 imo
fervent ibex
brel1-6 was pretty easy on global release, we got a nerfed-nerfed version
uncut dirge
and whats his name
debussy?
dense canyon
prokel was also fun to me
Prokel was only fun if you were doing him
obtuse oyster
idk maybe i am weird
nah, I wanted to end my suffering when on support and all the "prokel classes" wouldn't do or couldn't do prokel so I just got to get jailed in g2
uncut dirge
release G5-G6 on ahrd were pretty hard tho
fresh flint
the dude
fervent ibex
Morphius or something
cunning mesa
sorry i meant vykas
morphe
uncut dirge
ah yeah i don't really know much about the vykas-clown era in terms of difficulty
uncut dirge
since back then i basically bused everything
dense canyon
That one was aids
cunning mesa
my second fav after kharmine
dense canyon
Man I'm happy for new people
uncut dirge
i remember when we blind progged hm vykas
dense canyon
Bcs they won't experience
fresh flint
i fucked up the color orb/gate mech so many times LMFAO
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and i literally got 100-0d in one ability by the purple incubus
dense canyon
Things we were forced to experience
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like just normal pattern deleted my sorc
fervent ibex
the Vykas/Clown era of raids were really just a "team mate check", if your party had a mental illness or not
cunning mesa
if kharmine wants to take over the world ill be his obedient fangirl
fresh flint
like just normal pattern deleted my sorc
dude i still have my OG character from release, i also played sorc and it was rancid
mystic basin
if kharmine wants to take over the world ill be his obedient fangirl <:wahoo:128...
simp
obtuse oyster
the old relic gear progression
fervent ibex
Valtan was nice and easy imo, it' was like peak raid design for a while
cunning mesa
<a:Weird:1068655491057729567> simp
no u
obtuse oyster
where most sets was gated behind vykas
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argussy
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dude i still have my OG character from release, i also played sorc and it was ra...
i ended up doing hell mode vykas at a later time and realized that we might've actually lost more hp from vykas's hits back when we first progged it compared to hell mode
fervent ibex
i ran contender on my sorc and wondered why i got gatekept in argos
I remember running Lightning Fury on a FI WD cuz one of the Koreans said it was a decent budget engraving
shit was useless
dense canyon
I'm so happy for new people man. They only get to experience trans and elixirs which are objectively not as hard as old brel / vykas 
obtuse oyster
Valtan was nice and easy imo, it' was like peak raid design for a while
only raid I cleared 1st week without a support cause support shortage 
wicked blade
Is this crit rate good? (it is 2min test) @distant swallow
analog path
wtf is lightning fury
dense canyon
Is this crit rate good? (it is 2min test) <@234488388412112896>
What class?
analog path
is that something that exists
dense canyon
Reaper?
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I'm so happy for new people man. They only get to experience trans and elixirs w...
honestly, i feel happy for them because of meter
wicked blade
What class?
Shadow hunter
dense canyon
Or sh?
fervent ibex
only raid I cleared 1st week without a support cause support shortage <:FeelsGla...
LMAO YES I DID TOO
dense canyon
Ah ya
fervent ibex
week 1 supportless
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i genuinely wouldn't play without it
fresh flint
I remember running Lightning Fury on a FI WD cuz one of the Koreans said it was ...
i found out early not to listen to SHIT koreans said early game cus them mfs was trying to troll our asses
uncut dirge
reclearing old content feels so boring if i can't look at damage
dense canyon
Shadow hunter
I believe yes, yea it is
obtuse oyster
week 1 supportless
godbless all the heroes that were unironically playing GL during valtan and brel release
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i found out early not to listen to SHIT koreans said early game cus them mfs was...
"play the game at your own pace"
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i found out early not to listen to SHIT koreans said early game cus them mfs was...
luckily i had played so many MMOs before that when people said thinsg like "this game respects your time"
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meanwhile those MFRS rush to t3 to get T3 shard pouches
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and "all the classes are good, just play what you like"
fervent ibex
i found out early not to listen to SHIT koreans said early game cus them mfs was...
tbf you'd think they'd have good knowledge of a game they've had for 2 years longer than us, turns out the game changes so often (and so differently for Global) that none of their advice was relevant
wicked blade
Oh i can use meter and it works on dummy?
cunning mesa
only raid I cleared 1st week without a support cause support shortage <:FeelsGla...
i cleared it matchmaking
fresh flint
tbf you'd think they'd have good knowledge of a game they've had for 2 years lon...
legit
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and "oh, don't worry, they will readjust classes over time"
i didn't listen and i'm glad i didn't
mystic basin
That is why I swapped
Skill issue
wicked blade
Can u dm me link?
obtuse oyster
i cleared it matchmaking
nah, mming was filled with the most digusting rats that it would put current rats to shame
cunning mesa
then my static picked me up from the garbage can and gave me a home
fresh flint
"play the game at your own pace"
i do play at my own pace (hence why im only NOW learning thaemine g3) KEK
dense canyon
Man, I recently made a 1640 gunslinger. Full trans, just have to farm t4 gems. I got some and some t3. Difference is minimal atm. The way my fingers twitch in a tight situation while stance swapping is comical
fervent ibex
legit
the "rush 6 alts" shit came from Korea too, and Saintone actually apologized for pushing it so hard, in a video lol
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tbf you'd think they'd have good knowledge of a game they've had for 2 years lon...
i think it has more to do with the fact that koreans just don't know, since they don't have hard data
cunning mesa
nah, mming was filled with the most digusting rats that it would put current rat...
i didnt like pf back then remember good old times
fresh flint
the "rush 6 alts" shit came from Korea too, and Saintone actually apologized for...
THISsssssSSSS !!!!! ^^^^^
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and they also had way more time to get ready for those raids
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so their characters tended to be stronger than ours, and you know what raids feel like at ilvl vs like 20 ilvl above
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don't listen to koreans
fresh flint
The fact that these fucktards pushed 6 character min propoganda helped fuck global over quicker than anything else.
wicked blade
fresh flint
Theyre morons and idiots for promoting that dumb idealogy
fervent ibex
godbless all the heroes that were unironically playing GL during valtan and brel...
oh man i dont even remember what people were playing back then, im pretty sure people were on the sorc bandwagon even at 3x3 back then
uncut dirge
The fact that these fucktards pushed 6 character min propoganda helped fuck glob...
imo they were correct
fresh flint
They werent though
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imagine trying to buy your 20k each grudge on a 1char roster
obtuse oyster
oh man i dont even remember what people were playing back then, im pretty sure p...
sec doing fb
fresh flint
You don't need 6 characters to survive
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The fact that these fucktards pushed 6 character min propoganda helped fuck glob...
player generated FOMO
fresh flint
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when your weekly gold earnings are 13.5k gold
raided for two weeks? great, you can buy one book!
fresh flint
We have legitimately many people that still actively only play one character and are up to date on current content.
It's just fomo bullshit
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yeah, because it got better later since events ended up being generous with stuff like that over time
cunning mesa
oh man i dont even remember what people were playing back then, im pretty sure p...
i was gs main bard secondary 
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but imagine trying to collect books on a single char roster, it's insanity
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but yeah, it's definitely doable
fresh flint
It worked back then if you weren't stupid and listened to every little thing some irrelevant KR streamer said
fervent ibex
i think it has more to do with the fact that koreans just don't *know*, since th...
they had some useful advice, but most of it didnt end up applying cuz we unironically just "had it better" lol we didnt have as many crazy hot garbage as they did, even though we had our fair share of trash
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i know someone who had like 3 mil gold by the time brel came out
because he traded actively all the time
(also why he quit on brel since brel added the 20 trade restriction)
or well, a bit before brel
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tbh looking back at it, you would have been fine with a single character through all of T3
fresh flint
Yep
dense canyon
Well
fresh flint
Prices were ridiculous
dense canyon
Yes, in a way
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i disagree
fresh flint
For every tier
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books were just too pricey
fresh flint
Lifeskill alone can fund you relatively far
cunning mesa
i was always the cheapo and never had gold anyways
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idk exactly at what point they became that cheap
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actually i guess if you played a class
wise pasture
Far from it
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that had cheap class engraving it was probably fine
fervent ibex
tbh looking back at it, you would have been fine with a single character through...
Ehh debatable, just beacuse our game started with massive bot-gold inflation, so everything was overpriced to begin with, you kinda needed 6 alts (even if they were rats) just farming basic gold to afford anything
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like if you played one of those 500g class engraving book builds
fervent ibex
but at the same time, you could probably have just played 1 character and been somewhat behind, but still playable
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if you played an expensive class you may not have had enough gold yeah
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it would've actually been fine
fresh flint
Life skill, GR, cd (gems), guardian ticket thing, life skill tickets, cubes, maps, etc etc etc...there was a very large list of activities to find funding. But people are too lazy to do it themselves or put in a fraction of the effort.
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i remember when i played on RU
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and got a glaivier lege book drop, sold it
and funded my entire build from that one book, because for some reason it was more expensive than even grudge
bold aspen
fresh flint
That's why there's a literal command on this discord cus mfers are like goldfish and need that shit explained in great detail to them
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but at the same time, you could probably have just played 1 character and been s...
yeah, you may not have been a week 1
week 1 hard on new raid
but it was doable