lost-ark-discussions

[storm bronze]

[thorn sluice]

[cunning mesa]

[burnt tree]

I learned how koreans do these "ingame looking" nsfw pics

[wintry depot]

you can be noble support in a 8man if you have shit dps in your group, even if you have 90/100/70 and other supp has 60/60/10

[burnt tree]

They are AI assisted but they do the filter thing before

Which is probably why we don't have them yet

[storm bronze]

oui oui

[cunning mesa]

my method is more simple. you look if you have ap buff in your buffs bar. if you dont, you are messing up

[thorn sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/oui-ouais-yes-french-francais-gif-22722658

[wintry depot]

that doesnt work if people are 3km from you

[thorn sluice]

I got told my DE ew has a French style

[obtuse oyster]

or, if you're standing in your placed ap doesn't mean someone else is standing it

[storm bronze]

sussy

[wintry depot]

exactly

[thorn sluice]

[wintry depot]

most of the time im not in my sonic vib

[cunning mesa]

that doesnt show on meter either

[wintry depot]

it does

[obtuse oyster]

it does

[storm bronze]

how much nm clear you have

[burnt tree]

If everyone in ur party gets buff the supp should get a bunny hat over their head, if they don't they should have a frog hat frfr

[cunning mesa]

like i mean, it does makes things infinitely easier

but with some eyes on stuff you can more or less know what your performance was

[wintry depot]

can i show a screenshot of a 9% sunwell

[obtuse oyster]

it can easily tell you if you are having gaps between buffing or if someone is just not standing in your ap

[obtuse oyster]

not here

[wintry depot]

saddies

[kind lotus]

The voices in my head are pretty clear

[wintry depot]

i think lowest i saw was like 6%

XDD

[obtuse oyster]

I had a artist with 0 identity up time

[burnt tree]

Lowest i saw was 0% cause I don't meter ong

[obtuse oyster]

fun times

[cunning mesa]

like, i know im not doing 20/20/5 bcs i can see at least 80-90% of the time my buff is up

[cunning sparrow]

[wintry depot]

you had 75 ap uptime when we did tower

[cunning mesa]

and then the one you place is more about looking where your highest dps is

[burnt tree]

But even if you have the buff you don't know if the dps is intelligent enough to receive it frfr

[obtuse oyster]

exposed

[cunning mesa]

on a raid i did twice

[wintry depot]

i wont say brand because ss sona sucks

[cunning mesa]

1 week after i got back

i get 90/90 consistently

[wintry depot]

hope u changed

[obtuse oyster]

you wouldn't know that unless you use bible

you just assume you are

[storm bronze]

3 pulls btw

[cunning mesa]

yeah im trying out harp but it just sucks

idk i prefer my old build

[thorn sluice]

2

[storm bronze]

you have armor 1680 ?

[burnt tree]

Why would he need that in NM

[thorn sluice]

no

[storm bronze]

1710 wp ?

[thorn sluice]

1 piece left for 16

+16

[burnt tree]

Why would he need 1710 weap

[thorn sluice]

then i start adv honing

i have +19 + 10 adv

idk what's the ilvl , i forgot

1705 prob

[burnt tree]

Whale ngl

Im the poor f2p with +16+20

[storm bronze]

you have supp friend ?

this hm week or quit

[thorn sluice]

whale deez

i one tapped 24 25

[wicked blade]

[thorn sluice]

[storm bronze]

bring supp

[nova marlin]

is there a much diff between thaemine normal and hard 1-3?

[thorn sluice]

i don't have supp friends

imagine having friends

[wicked blade]

[cunning mesa]

ice can confirm my 90/90 now

[storm bronze]

you ain't playing alone ik that

[nova marlin]

i want to learn it but i dont want to sit for hours in lobby finding people like behemoth >.<

[thorn sluice]

i have an rmter friend, SE main

so strong

he is broken af

[storm bronze]

[obtuse oyster]

for one run

[storm bronze]

why nobody from here is on arcturus

[cunning mesa]

bro i dont use the thing

i just manually count my uptime

(my pc explodes with anything open)

(like for real)

[stark sky]

Icee

[cursive ruin]

my friend army acc is

[stark sky]

arna

[obtuse oyster]

can't really manaully count your uptime, since you can't math how much x secs of gapps are affecting you

[obtuse oyster]

yo

[cunning mesa]

i mean its a very rough estimate

[storm bronze]

who are you loggin with

[wintry depot]

g1 : berries on x50 destruction + eye at the end (most people skip)
g2: platform break in half x155 and dragon fly at the end, you need to go under him
g3: pacman, dark seed under you at albion and safe spots, reverse upside down typing test and ghosts that grabs at the end

[cunning mesa]

but its better than having my pc burn

[storm bronze]

it's winter soon

[wicked blade]

+-50

[obtuse oyster]

time to upgrade

[storm bronze]

win win

[cunning mesa]

and sometimes i check with the other source

[wicked blade]

[wintry depot]

but usually if you watch guide videos, they say nm and hm differences

[cunning mesa]

this winter

[stark sky]

u know we Baltimore at 55x in g1 now right

balthorr

[cunning mesa]

you know you dont go from 90/90 to 50/50 out of nowhere right

[cursive ruin]

what if the moon had a futa penis engraving on it

???

[wicked blade]

Imagine your pc not burning

[cunning mesa]

yeah thats bad

[wicked blade]

My cpu is on 75C

Normal temps

[storm bronze]

one of my laptop goes to 95 and it's fine

who cares

[wicked blade]

Yeah, CPU can go to 80C without issues, GPU to 83C

[nova marlin]

hmm so not that much difference, eye at the end what bar do you use balthor to skip?

[wicked blade]

[storm bronze]

can't even play wuwa since i'm jail on a bus

[wintry depot]

you need to hyper after shield and you skip it easily

[stark sky]

No

[wintry depot]

balthorr is same timing as nm

[stark sky]

smh

hyper during shield greedy bastards

[wintry depot]

i mean thats what my lobbies does

[obtuse oyster]

[storm bronze]

don't think i ever landed my hyper so far

[stark sky]

Probably cause you don't hyper properly

[obtuse oyster]

some would say that is a skill issue

[stark sky]

She always does the same patterns after balthorr

You wait until she's doing her velganos attack

Because she stands still fr like 10 sec

@obtuse oyster

[storm bronze]

[stark sky]

Ur job

[storm bronze]

did i click on a virus

[wicked blade]

Hm?

[wintry depot]

there you go

[stark sky]

Arna

[worn current]

i love the 400% dungeons. So rewarding lol

[stark sky]

you can balthorr at 55x now

People should adapt to it

[royal summit]

yeah my 5900x really hates lost ark aswell

had to change my cooler aswell

still fucking 80°

nothing else not even synthetic benchmarks push it that far

idk

[wintry depot]

im not lead, people can do whatever tfthy want xDD

i dont even know when they balthorr

i dont check hp

[storm bronze]

[wicked blade]

I'm fine with temps, but my room has good heating

[stark sky]

55x is during stager check

[wicked blade]

And I'm sitting on 29C inside room

• cpu and gpu

[wintry depot]

theres a stagegr check ?

[stark sky]

the destruction mech..?

[wintry depot]

ah the destruction u mean

yeah

[stark sky]

[wintry depot]

i thought u meant other stagger check

i was confused

[stark sky]

[wintry depot]

im hungry

[wicked blade]

Eat

[storm bronze]

hunry hungary who knows all the same

[cunning mesa]

time to get some food

[worn current]

Jayber and luna are getting reworked?

[cunning mesa]

im making some ramen

[storm bronze]

with cok

[cunning mesa]

[storm bronze]

🇸

[cursive ruin]

140m dps se in behe wtfffff

[storm bronze]

there you go i bought 4 behe busses and here's go my evening

[stark sky]

Why don't u just do it urself

Behe takes like 5 min

[storm bronze]

cuz nobody wants to play without x10

[stark sky]

People check that?

I haven't cared about blue titles since phantom legion commander

[storm bronze]

they literally kick my 1680 zerk

[stark sky]

Blue titles r meaningless

I just check quality of character

[storm bronze]

mofo just accepted me to ban me from lobby

[obtuse oyster]

peopel simulatenously think 10x blue titles matter while also knowing they don't matter cause people get bussed or carried to the finish line when they are zdps

[storm bronze]

it's the only x10 i'm gonna impostory with buying on my alt

it's too ez to clear

[wicked blade]

[low nebula]

i think there is huge difference between x10 and x1 clear on average

before 3rd clear was jail of aegir, i knew literally nothing about it

[storm bronze]

we got dl on week 2

i still don't know msot pattern

[stark sky]

and i knew more about aegir on my first clear than 5x reclear people

[obtuse oyster]

that's a difference of how fast you are at learning a raid

[stark sky]

[low nebula]

you not learning if first 3 clears were 1-2 taps

[cursive ruin]

always one guy

[low nebula]

every week you come there

[storm bronze]

[low nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/memory-no-memory-where-am-i-memories-harry-potter-gif-5385535

like this

[storm bronze]

i mean kinda

you did haegir on release ?

[storm bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/you-shall-not-pass-lord-of-the-ring-gif-5234772

g0

[low nebula]

yea

first clear like 2 taps

4 taps first gate

[storm bronze]

[low nebula]

the X mart the bozo

killed to many bozos

second were same

third clear was ez

4th jail af

1670-1680

full 10 gems

did less dps then we did

[storm bronze]

gave up first week could not get any grp

[low nebula]

i did first clear on paladin

and reclear was lucky to find slot

next two weeks i traded sups

[storm bronze]

you have two 1680 ?

[low nebula]

now it doesnt matter, at last 2 days its dps shortage

1660

[stark sky]

1670 doing hm aegir is crazy

[wintry depot]

[storm bronze]

[low nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/mala-mishra-jha-pat-head-cute-sparkle-penguin-gif-16770818

[wintry depot]

ayaya to gulag

[lunar hedge]

Broke

[low nebula]

why even hone ayaya

[safe lark]

poor artist

[wintry depot]

why not?

[safe lark]

well

i dont think she would hone anything else

[wintry depot]

[low nebula]

huh

[wintry depot]

nice auto delete

[storm bronze]

why is bard before artist

[safe lark]

figthing with support shortage

[storm bronze]

this is wrong

[lunar hedge]

She was bard main before

[wintry depot]

because bard on second pos looks ugly

[low nebula]

1984 chat.

HEY PROMOCODE

[storm bronze]

another discount val

[low nebula]

oh no

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850672089118933012/1113428122700890153/i016483359380.gif

[storm bronze]

i hope it was not a scam

i already put my social id and credit card

[safe lark]

but he was playing new game today with caedrel

should rename it to that game

not valo

[storm bronze]

i'm learning more about sh people

[lunar hedge]

What the

[storm bronze]

maybe i keep doing nm

i kinda want to keep selling oreha

[cursive ruin]

how is an artist with no dmg gems talking shit rn

what timeline do we live in

[storm bronze]

[buoyant wagon]

an hard

[wicked blade]

I need an hard

[storm bronze]

punishement

[wicked blade]

[storm bronze]

ngl i've seen this guy whole last week sitting in his sh

we might reproduce

[fickle jungle]

[cursive ruin]

an hard (pronounced ard)

[storm bronze]

bard

[low nebula]

cringe chatters

[storm bronze]

sir you play zerk

[wicked blade]

[low nebula]

zerks are chadders

[cursive ruin]

when a pink name calls people cringe u know we live in some sort of alternate timeline where people never got arrested for speech crimes

[storm bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/not-bad-billy-the-departed-sounds-good-alright-gif-52335141634044875

it's gonna snow tomorrow

[cursive ruin]

my new static is teaching a returning friend thaemine and i just heard "you wanna see a big black cock?"

[storm bronze]

egyptian army static

[cursive ruin]

this static is fun

we jailed echidna g2 for an hour because we can't kill snakes but i wasn't tilted

we're chill, having fun

actually finishing our raids

etc

[storm bronze]

[thorn sluice]

we usually help each other, when i play low alt he brings strong alt, etc

[low nebula]

dman

feels nice to have friends

you used to be my sonavel friend

but not anymore

[fickle jungle]

none of my friends play the game anymore

[low nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-dragon-maid-anime-cute-raining-gif-17238580

[thorn sluice]

[thorn sluice]

i bet you are still doing sonavels on your arcana

[low nebula]

i dispatch her

[tawny lion]

Idk if you play the game but I’ll see you in arkesia roxx

[thorn sluice]

[low nebula]

you could have carried me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922351881353850890/1306538115334406215/7.gif

[robust birch]

Idk if you play the game but I’ll see you in arkesia roxx

[low nebula]

how many boxes is ok to open to see you in arkesia?

[kind lotus]

#votedegenformod2025

[nova marlin]

wth?

[low nebula]

rip bozo

[nova marlin]

is this a bug or am i getting hacked?

[low nebula]

im in sec

gonna send gems and let you in

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850672089118933012/1086834545048952852/Artist_campfire.gif

[cursive ruin]

just watched people berserk because 2 skills didn't crit

[low nebula]

i doubt thats a reason

[wintry depot]

you relogged too fast

[nova marlin]

i had like 7k ping

and then it dced me

then got this message

[wintry depot]

yes and when you relog, you need to wait a bit or thats what it does

[cursive ruin]

just went up 1.10% damage in 2 minutes

[storm bronze]

so you don't play lone like said

when does the next massive extinction event is gonna happen

[thorn sluice]

not 100% alone

[thorn sluice]

Let’s wait another exploit

[storm bronze]

you went from i don't have to i have friends

this is why i don't trust you

🤌

i vaped too much

[queen grail]

That's a rip.

[low nebula]

rip

i think thats need a fix

[storm bronze]

that did happen

[low nebula]

cat licked pc power button

game died

[storm bronze]

this is why you get dog

and not cat

cat owners like to get abused anyway

[nova marlin]

you gotta be f kidding me man..

[low nebula]

classic

[storm bronze]

i want to be mod

[nova marlin]

its also so stupid that lightning is totally garbage 2 tile lefts enchanted hits only 1 f tile

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-taking-notes-oomfie-spy-x-family-memo-gif-8287618218761733944

[vagrant cradle]

i mean, if that were me it would destroy no tiles and add an extra

[wicked blade]

Ain't no way WuWa got transmog before Lost Ark

[grizzled frigate]

someone said the ignight server would be the best for me to join and i did and im soooo happy i did i got really far

[queen grail]

?

[low nebula]

[storm bronze]

Transmog

Such boomer

[wicked blade]

What is wrong with having a transmog

[burnt tree]

it just hides weapons nothing biggy

ppl acting like wuwa innovated weapon skins or some shit

[storm bronze]

This game got skins

[queen grail]

Ye, no other game ever had that before.

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-cat-despite-all-my-rage-get-real-gif-20016880

[obtuse oyster]

shills gonna shill

[burnt tree]

i mean i love the game but stupidity has a limit

[storm bronze]

Are they p2w skins like lost ark

[queen grail]

Yes, the tiny fraction of main stat you get from the skins in lost ark is sure to make you win.

[wicked blade]

I sure as hell hope they win mobile game of the year

I don't mind free 5-star

[storm bronze]

[burnt tree]

tbh same

[obtuse oyster]

2% dmg is 2% dmg

[nimble birch]

its a pretty gold efficient upgrade

[nova garden]

I’m dealmaxxing frfr

[nimble birch]

compared to other stuff

[nova garden]

2 fillet o fish and 10pc nugget for $6.08

[wicked blade]

The heck are first three

[nimble birch]

??

balatro was huge lol

pretty good game

[wicked blade]

So it is basically ZZZ vs WuWa for best mobile game

[nimble birch]

best gooner game

[storm bronze]

Pokémon

[nova garden]

Afk journey is massive

[cursive ruin]

pala fails g1 thaemine mech, then leader remembers he's the guy who jailed him in g3 last week

[burnt tree]

its between afk journey wuwa and zzz tbh

[wicked blade]

If ZZZ wins

[burnt tree]

ZZZ shouldnt win tbh

[wicked blade]

World is ending

Garbago game

[burnt tree]

but Mihoyo shills will vote in doves

[storm bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/games-phone-dog-wink-winking-dog-gif-22423504

[wicked blade]

Dw Sathona

[storm bronze]

This dog is not a borzoi

[wicked blade]

Now we have Kuro shills

[burnt tree]

[wicked blade]

I'm one of them

I lost the bet

[storm bronze]

I kinda want a borzoi

But I don't think i'm getting another dog

Or maybe another mastiff

[grizzled frigate]

Hi I'm stuck on a quest It called the end of journey quest how to I start it to finish the prolong???

[cursive ruin]

you must kill kazeros

which might arrive with the end of service update

[wicked blade]

[storm bronze]

[grizzled frigate]

But I only just started this character ???

[burnt tree]

u cant finish it

blue quests are the story

[grizzled frigate]

It a main story quest

[wicked blade]

We will not even get Kazeros on West, it will be EOS way before that

[storm bronze]

Did you use the ignite server

[burnt tree]

orange quests update when the story is at a breaking/key point

[storm bronze]

Nabe

[grizzled frigate]

Yep

[burnt tree]

not even korea has the end of a journey quest

[storm bronze]

If you want to do the story from the start you need to create another character

[wicked blade]

Wait, end of the Jorney

[storm bronze]

Because your ignite char is sending you to the end game continent

[wicked blade]

That means end of LOA

[grizzled frigate]

Oh I think I'm on the wrong server then because the character I have was auto skip to the end I was soo confused

So if I don't use the ignite server what the best server to us I don't want to use the ignite

[burnt tree]

the game has 3 Acts

we are still on the first

oh wait

[grizzled frigate]

Yep

[burnt tree]

end of a journey is already updated

thats the one we dont have

[storm bronze]

You can transfer your ignite character to a normal server for rewards like gold and make another one to start the story from zero

[storm bronze]

[grizzled frigate]

That not the one I have

The quest in the screen shot I mean

[burnt tree]

did u finish everything for the story?

[worn current]

Elon musk is suing twitch. interesting

[storm bronze]

End of a journey is in trixion

@grizzled frigate try to ask there #lost-ark-help

[midnight marlin]

you have to transfer the character off of ignite to continue the story, yes a newly created character will have story completed up to voldis, if you want to experience the story make a new character after you've transferred off of ignite, the rewards from the transfer are too good to not take

[tawny lion]

Hope he wins

[storm bronze]

Some musk glazer here

[surreal bolt]

where are the stronghold enjoyers

[grizzled frigate]

figured it out i was on a test server that why it boosted me im on my character i had at the begging when i first join the game now i can contiou my story

[midnight marlin]

its not a test server

its a server designed to boost new players

[tawny lion]

I could say ur a terrorist sympathizer with your flawed logic just saying

[nimble birch]

[midnight marlin]

read pins in #1291832045340983426 , get your free end game character, then play story

[storm bronze]

🤌

[cursive ruin]

drinks seductively

[wise pasture]

[wicked blade]

Same

[storm bronze]

Another one

[wicked blade]

Well @storm bronze , we can't all simp for Jeffy like u

[storm bronze]

I simp for nobody

[wicked blade]

Sure sure

[storm bronze]

Everybody sucks

[wicked blade]

https://tenor.com/view/risa-bezos-speedball-gif-19767173

[storm bronze]

Nice droid you got there

Exterminate

I say nice things to chatgpt from time to time in case of

[wise pasture]

GPT execute order 66

[storm bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-drake-rap-rapper-gif-12915993367632056683

[stark thicket]

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540933911182835712/1264384008352170034/i0677544577.gif

[stark thicket]

My leaf

[cursive ruin]

made and displaced 200k gold today

[storm bronze]

[cursive ruin]

ok so my friend on arti has been yapping this whole time about "bro i'm doing only 8m per laser wtf why is my arti not doing as much damage"

i come to discover today

0 transc 0 elixir

[storm bronze]

Missing some expertise

[wise pasture]

dude needs to step up, mine is doing like 70-100mil per crit(85% crit rate)

[cursive ruin]

doubt

laser 100m per tick is not even ark passive type shi

[wise pasture]

that is on argeos

idk, you tell me

[cursive ruin]

yeah i'm calling bs

[wise pasture]

let me find it again

[surreal bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260586209718308874/1308257961747021905/goat.gif

[cursive ruin]

YAAAAAAAAAA

[dreamy nova]

i needed to go to tooki island to complete my music box quest and there was not enough people to start it i am sadge and madge

[fickle jungle]

gotta recruit folks, just need 4 total

[worn current]

I did this outpost a million times and cant get ult freyna code lol @nova garden All my luck is in wuwa it seems

[nova garden]

[modern grail]

let me go im about2report

[worn current]

Lets go

[cursive ruin]

ok so i can use aura potions in chaos but not rest bonus potions

makes sense

[ancient tundra]

Hi bro welcome back

[worn current]

When aventurine out

[ancient tundra]

He is out

Already

Wym

His banner is ongoing rn

[weak moat]

guys

who's gonna win

[mystic basin]

SQKTJL for me

i loved all the arkham games

also what tf is dustborn and unknown 9

Starwars outlaws is just typically ubisoft bullshit theyve been throwing out of the years now

[frail swallow]

Dustborn was probably the most brazen one of the group.

[mystic basin]

and idk if dragon age would be a flop

it came out recently

but also never played any of them

so idk

[distant charm]

What are buddies up too

Oh hell naw

1am EUC Sea Of Indolence lobbies

[analog path]

Wtf that exists

let me inn

[torpid girder]

its so hard to find players in g1 thaemine in ignite

[obtuse oyster]

most people have transfered out

[torpid girder]

yeah..

[wicked blade]

Damn, I found EVO Machinist player

In a wild

[mystic basin]

evo

[wicked blade]

This is EVO, no?

[charred void]

evo is spec yes

[wicked blade]

Oh alr

[turbid oriole]

wdf

dead game

19k on reset

[wicked blade]

I mean, it is what it isss

Transform classes are cool

[mystic basin]

why play evo hen you can play at

[wicked blade]

Lost Ark playerbase doesn't drop less then 10k every day at all times...

How many bots is there dude

[wicked blade]

Because cheaper + cool

[mystic basin]

[calm cypress]

is there any data regarding PD and blunt thorn efficiency? PD over a generic engraving in favor of more evo damage

[mystic basin]

ig if you wanna count gems and sp

[analog path]

where's that dice moderator

he should roll a d20

if it rolls anything above 20 i will play the game today

[wicked blade]

2 gems for EVO and Shadowhunter

[mystic basin]

/roll d 100

/roll d100

[wicked blade]

/roll d100

[charred void]

its not 2 gems anymore since you need "any" gems for the atk. power %

[analog path]

epic fail

[wicked blade]

[wicked blade]

It is 2 gem class basically

[analog path]

huh

[wicked blade]

2 class gems and other borrowed

[analog path]

oh shit is it the tier 4 gems

i saw my support damage gems actually gave something

[wicked blade]

Meanwhile me who is planning to make all alts Shadowhunter

[analog path]

so does the dps ones give like damage % base

[wicked blade]

[wintry depot]

all t4 gems gives ap

[wicked blade]

2am lobbies are guaranteed jail

[wintry depot]

and support dm gems boost that skill

[wicked blade]

[wintry depot]

on shield, it can be bigger shields

[analog path]

oh it gives that on top of the extra effect

[wintry depot]

but its useeless

yep

[analog path]

yeah but ap useless on support

[wintry depot]

no

its base ap

it counts toward ap buff

[analog path]

i thought only wep power

[wintry depot]

its not ap like elixirs

base ap

not additional ap

elixirs counts as additional ap

[analog path]

wot

[wintry depot]

gems gives base ap

[analog path]

yeah and things like cursed doll are bonus %'s

[wintry depot]

yes its additional

so it doesnt work for supports

its not base

[charred void]

tldr every support gets 3 dmg gems on the 3 buffs

[analog path]

i didn't know support buffs are based on base ap

[charred void]

and whatever cdr gems you can get

[wintry depot]

now you do

[analog path]

does int/str/dex give base atk too?

[wicked blade]

Why do fusion has to be RNG

That is so dumb

[analog path]

[wintry depot]

yep

[analog path]

now you guys all have to do horizontal for the +0.00013% buff increase

[tawny lion]

Twitter is unhinged a female loa streamer said Roxx has a punchable face om

[wicked blade]

Twitter...

[wintry depot]

poor roxx ngl

dealing with monkeys

i would never be cm

i dont have that patience

[wicked blade]

Yeah, don't punch Roxx

Punch monkeys that work at AGS and SG

[wintry depot]

msot things its not even her fault

[wicked blade]

^

She is just a face of company

She has 0 power

[wintry depot]

yeah

literally the punching bag

[wicked blade]

I feel sorry for her

Working for AGS

Terrible company in every way

[wintry depot]

i dont think ags is that bad

i played under gameforge for years

that

was bad

ags isnt good

but theres worse

[analog path]

idek what ags's doings are and which things are done by sg

[wintry depot]

ags is just really bad at communication

like REAL bad

[analog path]

that is for sure

[wintry depot]

for punishing the accounts like rmt or exploiters, idk if ags does that or its smilegate

their trusted status is dogshit

[analog path]

what if its mostly sg doing everything in-game and ags is doing communication
but it gets really messy because its a game of telephone

[wintry depot]

i mean every patch are from smilegate so when theres fuck-ups, ags cant do shit and need to wait fixes XD

[analog path]

[modern grail]

letmegoimabout2report

[wicked blade]

Oh... They didn't punish exploiters that much

[wintry depot]

oh yeah and the fact that their anti-botting system was actively banning every new acocunt

yeah...

[analog path]

i wasn't here for that

[wintry depot]

it was funny

[analog path]

but doesn't the game still have bots

ban roulette

[wintry depot]

every day people complaining about it

yeah

but way less than before

[analog path]

[wicked blade]

I got VAC ban on my Steam randomly

Because I was too innactive

[analog path]

i still randomly crash in game

[wicked blade]

They removed it when I contacted Steam

But seriously, AGS is a joke

[wintry depot]

eh, like i said, theres worse

[frail swallow]

Thats happened for other games on Steam, that isn't unique to AGS

[wintry depot]

im pretty sure ags has no control on 95% of things in game

[frail swallow]

I have a few friends that got VAC bans registered onto their accounts because of weirdness with Ark

[wicked blade]

Well for 10y of playing on Steam, that was first

[analog path]

don't most of you guys also hate steam anyways

[frail swallow]

No

[wintry depot]

meh idc

[analog path]

gamers in general

[wicked blade]

Steam is actually good

[frail swallow]

Its not perfect, but nothing is

[wicked blade]

We don't hate steam

[analog path]

alr

[frail swallow]

Thats also why I don't have particular issues with AGS

There are literally worse

Trion, Gamigo, and others don't exist anymore for a reason

Kakao

[wintry depot]

trion XDDDDD

[frail swallow]

my.game

[analog path]

i used to play Trove for 4 years

[wicked blade]

Trion XDDD

[frail swallow]

So yeah

[weak moat]

I see lost ark

[frail swallow]

Could be worse

[analog path]

it was the worst thing ever
you are 100% correct

[frail swallow]

And honestly AGS still has better community engagement than some "industry veteran" companies like ANet which have atrocious community engagement

[wicked blade]

I avoid Kakao games as a plague

[wicked blade]

Yeah

But still doesn't excuse AGS and SG incompetence

[frail swallow]

Not everything is going to be a hit, and even more celebrated studios still have misses that create sour feelings

[wintry depot]

well we dont know what ags acn actuall do and cant do

[weak moat]

https://youtu.be/Cdg0WSpbr10?t=154

[analog path]

yeah

[weak moat]

there's the lost ark part

[wicked blade]

Yeah but missing with Lost Ark, then New World, now Throne and Liberty

AGS should stop being a publisher

Honestly

[frail swallow]

They haven't missed with Lost Ark, though.

[wintry depot]

how is that ags fault

[frail swallow]

Or Throne

[wintry depot]

if game is fucked

they arent devs

[wicked blade]

Throne is falling down fast

[frail swallow]

New World they just could never get their footing right unfortunately

[weak moat]

how is throne falling down fast?

[cursive ruin]

#rng-luck-fails message

[wintry depot]

western players dont want pvp game

[cursive ruin]

poor guy

thinks he made 400k

[frail swallow]

Yes, because its been 2 months and its an MMORPG in 2024.

[wintry depot]

not ags fault

[frail swallow]

Also the first castle siege just finished

[wintry depot]

and yeah, mmo are falling down since years

[frail swallow]

Thats...just games these days

[wintry depot]

except like 2 titles

[frail swallow]

Thats just what happens

[wicked blade]

Riot mmorpg will save the genre

[cursive ruin]

wow and ff?

[wintry depot]

xDDDD

[wicked blade]

[cursive ruin]

i assume perchance

[wintry depot]

ye

[weak moat]

definitly a dead game

fucking can't walk 2 feet without your screen cluttering

[wicked blade]

Look at steam chart

[weak moat]

with billion of players

[wicked blade]

Billion of players?

[weak moat]

its cross platform

[wicked blade]

Where

[frail swallow]

Even WoW and FF14 have population drop offs after big releases

[wicked blade]

[analog path]

i mean tbf the Fucking mobile games are taking over

[wicked blade]

Throne and Liberty has one of the worst combat I have ever seen

And that is a no go for me

[weak moat]

if we're gonna talk about dead game

[frail swallow]

Don't be that population numbers person.

[weak moat]

this game is also dead

[wicked blade]

My dude

That game has standard launcher

[analog path]

its not dead man

[wicked blade]

Steam players are 1%

[wintry depot]

nobody plays ff on steam

[wicked blade]

LOL

[torn maple]

i use the launcher

[wicked blade]

I do to

[wintry depot]

yeah, liek everyone

[queen grail]

All games are dead and you're all dumb

[analog path]

i don't even consider 15k avg dead

[queen grail]

Go out and touch some grass.

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[frail swallow]

All that matters is the population is stable and it continues to bring in new players over time. Lost Ark does that, WoW does that, GW2 does that, Throne may likely do that. New Worlds issue was that it didn't.

[wintry depot]

for me as long as the game didnt close the servers and you can still find people to play with, game not dead

[analog path]

most mmos just have this

it booms and then it drops

[torn maple]

ags sucks ig

[wintry depot]

i miss tera

[analog path]

and then it stabilizes
has +'s and -'s too

[wintry depot]

tera was cool

but managed like shit

[torn maple]

when did it shutdown again 2019?

[wintry depot]

something like that yeah

[tawny lion]

lost ark is the exception where it cannot boom again. every other mmorpg booms during new expansion

[frail swallow]

I can't say they haven't learned from their experiences with New World and then Lost Ark though because they absolutely have with how they handle things like launches, events, servers, etc.

[wintry depot]

2022, just checked google

[wicked blade]

Ignite was a failiure

It helped vets a lot

[torn maple]

free 200k for vets

[wicked blade]

Yeah

[wintry depot]

and thats not ags fault, it was a failure for new players because of all the shitty systems

and thats on sg

[wicked blade]

But it was designed for new/returning players and marketed as that

[analog path]

i mean
if we're going by steam charts the base went up in april this year

[wicked blade]

That happens when devs don't play their own game

[frail swallow]

The systems are a SG design issue, thats not on AGS

[torn maple]

idk theres probably hella ideas but sg won't comply cause its their game

[tawny lion]

are you sure it wasnt mainly bots

[wicked blade]

Bots

After ban wave it dropped hard

[weak moat]

new players didn't want to do Elixir and didn't want to do trans

all they had to do is give BIS Elixir and fully completed trans

[analog path]

well statistically bots are proportional to players, but i won't claim that i have an answer that i know is correct, Lol

[torn maple]

there was a threshhold that they didnt have to

they got it for free no?

[frail swallow]

To be fair, had they not put in the restrictions that they did then that 200k would have been upwards of a million or more gold because of how incentivized it would have been trying to farm gold off of new players on Ignite likely through bussing.

[wicked blade]

Not even that... Just LOS30

[weak moat]

dude I still see fucking LUCK set elixir

[tawny lion]

bots have outnumbered players for most of loa's life though

[wicked blade]

Cards are biggest issue

[weak moat]

I kicked them out

told them to go do their research

or quit the game

[torn maple]

i mean they had somewhat of an idea

giving them luck as a chaos dungeon set

[wicked blade]

Very helpful

Wow

[analog path]

have they though
how would we know that

[wintry depot]

and thats sg, not ags

[weak moat]

helping anyone in this game gives you nothing

[wintry depot]

sg gave exactly those in kr

[analog path]

have we ever found out how many bots were in loa global with proper proof

[tawny lion]

guys does my 1640 sura alt need tier 4 lvl 5 gems? it's getting hard gate kept kek

[weak moat]

if I do their elixir it gives me nothing

the only "helpful" rewarding content

is bussing

[wicked blade]

Okay, and other games where people help with nothing in return?

[torn maple]

if they let you convert event gems to t4 that would make sense

[wicked blade]

LA has problem with community

[weak moat]

We get stuff in return

[wicked blade]

Not only shitty systems

[torn maple]

but idk good idea but thats an sg issue

[weak moat]

we get useful stuff

It's called a mentor system

[torn maple]

more attempts

[wintry depot]

sg doesnt want to give los30
for some reason

again, thats sg, not ags fault XD

[wicked blade]

New players will quit after event is over

[wintry depot]

well yeah

[analog path]

yeah lmao

[wicked blade]

I don't understand why don't give cards

[wintry depot]

i said it multiple times they should give los30

[wicked blade]

Like the fuck

[analog path]

the base is going to get slammed when that event ends

[torn maple]

cause its a profitable item in their shop

[wintry depot]

yep

[torn maple]

players are fomoing for klc XD

[wintry depot]

klc is so useless

[analog path]

do you even need klc

[torn maple]

nope

not until lost ark 2 probably

[analog path]

i just got LWC with all my select packs because i'm probably going to only play 1 bard from now on

[wintry depot]

you need it if youre like net and stay 1600 doing kayangel

[analog path]

so Fuck LoS

[wicked blade]

DD30 mid-game card set at best and they give u end-game ready character

What the f is that logic

[wintry depot]

ew bard

[analog path]

"i'm not like the other bards"

[wintry depot]

na, just playing bard is shit

[wicked blade]

I'm a new player and I started disliking bards

[wintry depot]

should i show my 3 bards lopang

[torn maple]

idk

[analog path]

i mean there are people who play CO summoner

we will play even if it feels shit

[wintry depot]

yeah, clueless

[analog path]

Fuck it, we ball

[wicked blade]

Cmon guys, CO Summoner is not that bad

[wintry depot]

i mean, co summoner doesnt feel shit playing it, you just have 0 dmg

[torn maple]

i think theres alot of good answers to repairing a lot of the discomforts players are feeling

[wicked blade]

It is usable

[analog path]

yeah but if you do 0 dmg it feels shit

no?

[wintry depot]

well

[torn maple]

i mean rat or not if you don't know your class you dont know

[wintry depot]

i do 0 dmg on artist and it doesnt feel shit

[frail swallow]

This coming LOA ON will be very telling as to what is to come with the game

[wintry depot]

:p

[analog path]

yeah cuz support role is to give damage, not do damage

[wicked blade]

But u make other people do gazillion damage

[wintry depot]

i got mp furnace today

[torn maple]

how many loa on's now

[wintry depot]

my bf was doing 8b burst

it was funny

[wicked blade]

God blessed juiced paladin making me hit 400m with SH

[wintry depot]

almost orgasm

[wicked blade]

[analog path]

damagegasm

[wicked blade]

What class?

SE?

Or BK?

[frail swallow]

They have had maybe 2 or 3 a year for a while so idk

[wintry depot]

sorc

[torn maple]

how many times does it take to fix the issue

yknow

[wicked blade]

Sorc

[analog path]

what issue

[wintry depot]

he plays bk too but its 1640

[frail swallow]

They've fixed numerous issues over the last 6 years

But yes, new ones appear as they add things to the game

[torn maple]

the discomfort

[wicked blade]

I have PTSD from Sorc players... I had 3 sorcs in 3 Argeos runs and they all died and used 2/3 revives

[wintry depot]

let me find a screenshot

ill dm you

[wicked blade]

Guys what are our expectations

-50% playerbase on Brel release?

Or less

[analog path]

the brel effect

when new brel raid comes out

[torn maple]

probably another decrease from the veterans base

[analog path]

players quit in mass

[wicked blade]

Yeah, I quit when Brel released

And a lot of my friends

[analog path]

i quit in hard brel

[wicked blade]

Same

[analog path]

because shit was boring

not brel herself

[wicked blade]

What do u mean?

[analog path]

but the game

[wicked blade]

U don't like 6 gates?

Pathetic

[analog path]

couldn't care less aboot that

[wintry depot]

g2 was boring tho, if you werent prokel

[torn maple]

im starting to mentally peak

[analog path]

true

i always did prok

[torn maple]

i think im only going brel hard on 1 char

[analog path]

shit was amazing

[torn maple]

my support

the other 1680 is staying

to do normal

[weak moat]

I don't wanna start a new mmo

I was thinking of playing maplestory on the side

after I finish my raids

but fucking POE2 is coming

and girl frontline

[analog path]

i like it when there's a new mmo and everyone is starting out so there's a lot of players to do early prog with, and co-op things like co-op islands, and early tier 1 2 raids to reference loa

its fun when nobody knows what they are doing

[torn maple]

the fresh laundry feeling

in an mmo

[wicked blade]

Brell dropped

[weak moat]

unfortunately poe2 is not an mmo

[wicked blade]

[torn maple]

[weak moat]

poe 2 is a single player grind game

[wicked blade]

From 334k to 93k after 2-3 months of brel

[wicked blade]

It is not

[weak moat]

it is

[wicked blade]

Tell me u never played PoE without telling me

[weak moat]

grind game

[wicked blade]

And LOA is not?

[weak moat]

loa is a korean grind game

its different

[wicked blade]

No it is not?

[wintry depot]

im braindamaged, poe tree is too hard for me

[torn maple]

frfr

[nova garden]

Poe is shit

[torn maple]

i dont miss my zombie build at all ngl

[nova garden]

[wicked blade]

Naaah

U just need brain cells to play it

[nova garden]

It’s not coomer at all

[frail swallow]

Icy just doesn't like things without coomer skins

[torn maple]

poe2 just looks like red dead redemption dungeon crawler

[wicked blade]

[wintry depot]

poe2 is shit because no massive boobas

jk, i have 0 idea

[wicked blade]

PoE 2 honestly looks amazing

[weak moat]

I hope there's the braindead aura build

[wicked blade]

Gonna dip LOA when it releases

[wintry depot]

i wouldnt play 2 mmos at the same time personally

[weak moat]

I just want to run in a straight line and everything dies

[wicked blade]

[frail swallow]

I mean its true, it doesn't

[nova garden]

True and real