lost-ark-discussions

[glacial marsh]

[storm bronze]

<67 is auto dismantle that's all ik

[glacial marsh]

for supps

they don't actually need as many points

so the 20q one is actually bis for a supp

and pretty cheap

at the cost of 2 points

[storm bronze]

LL is back

[uncut dirge]

how much dps do you need for aegir G2 normal?

[storm bronze]

[storm bronze]

You want real numbers or just a feel up

DPS check is very lenient

[uncut dirge]

real numbers

[uncut dirge]

doesn't matter if it's lenient

i wanna know how much everyone has to do to even be able to clear

[charred void]

from the cheat sheet

[uncut dirge]

tyvm

guess it's not worth bothering then

[low nebula]

should i spend all life energy or 4k is enough and it wouldnt be 10h maintance tmrw?

[storm bronze]

Ugh tomorrow seems gamba

[cursive ruin]

half nm and u get individual requirement for hrel

[cursive ruin]

i'm stuck in heaven bro

wrong chat

[wise pasture]

4k should be fine, surely

[fresh flint]

@lucid ether 👋

[swift lava]

@lucid ether Chris shit talking you

[kindred ravine]

@lucid ether did you reset our fucking world boss?

[fresh flint]

dont listen to bruh hes schizophrenic

[swift lava]

@lucid ether Chris forgot to take his anti psychotics today

[fresh flint]

i took them

i just hate humans

[swift lava]

See he shit talking you @lucid ether

You gonna just take that bro?

[fresh flint]

liar

i am not shitting talking him

[swift lava]

https://tenor.com/view/receipts-salty-gif-5938020

[abstract flax]

how are people who got banned from the recent exploits getting unbanned and still keeping their trusted account status?

[fresh flint]

we cant answer this as we are not ags

[abstract flax]

I've been waiting and sending tickets to ags support for 3 weeks now for losing trusted status after ignite transfer

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-thicc-plus-size-fluffy-big-boned-gif-27317006

[wintry depot]

skill issue

real answer: who knows, ags system is shit

[cunning mesa]

ags is special

[turbid oriole]

[wicked blade]

[cursive ruin]

got second purp for fmh, went into guardian to try it

got a really good bard

we wipe on orb because 1 guy is down and the other is autoattacking the orb

[wicked blade]

Zerk is kinda fun

Ngl

[wicked blade]

What are u supposed to even do with an orb?

[cursive ruin]

you're supposed to kill it

[wicked blade]

Oh good

It sounded like ur not supposed to do that

I usually save hyper for orb

Because idk who I gonna get in group

[wintry depot]

your group has kinda shit dmg and if you manage to get hyper xD

[wicked blade]

Not really, usually we clear in under 4min

It is just that Argeos has ADHD

And someone can get knocked or miss block

So better to be safe then sorry XD

[tulip charm]

is this like lowest graphics settings?

[wintry depot]

buy me gpu

[wicked blade]

Why all on low

[wintry depot]

because i have old ass gpu ?

[wicked blade]

Which is...

[wintry depot]

and i actually want to have fps in raids

1050

not ti

[wicked blade]

That ain't too bad

Ah

Nevermind

[wintry depot]

XD

[wicked blade]

2gb vram

Rough

[wintry depot]

i could upgrade to a 3060 and not change anything to my pc but its like 500$

[burnt tree]

om

[wicked blade]

No

[wintry depot]

i cant go for a 1080

[wicked blade]

Buy used RX 5700

[wintry depot]

ah

[wicked blade]

Best bank for the buck

3060 level

[wintry depot]

idk if its compatible with my mothboard

[wicked blade]

For 130e

What the heck

Any GPU is compatible with any motherboard

[wintry depot]

and other shits i have

[wicked blade]

[wintry depot]

yeah but you could need a bigger poiwer suplply no?

[wicked blade]

550w

[wintry depot]

i ahve 500

so i would need to change it

[wicked blade]

That works aswell

Does it have 2x8 pin connector?

[wintry depot]

i checked on amazon

rx 5700 is the same price as the 3060

uh

let me check

[wicked blade]

Don't buy new

Jesus Arna

[wintry depot]

yes its used

[wicked blade]

Just don't buy new gpu

How much is it?

[wintry depot]

260$ used

• taxes

[wicked blade]

Ye, that doesn't checks out.

[wintry depot]

so like 300 something

[wicked blade]

Noup

[wintry depot]

its canada

[wicked blade]

Go to ebay

[wintry depot]

its fucked

[wicked blade]

Not amazon

[wintry depot]

179

[wicked blade]

Better

Ya

[wintry depot]

but i dont really trsut ebay

[wicked blade]

179 fake dolars is about right

[wintry depot]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[wicked blade]

Kekw

[wintry depot]

i dont have money anyway

i got cut by gouvernment so need to wait till i work

[nova garden]

ebay is fucked up in canada. they don't have a lot of contracts with shipping companies that they do in the USA and some other countries.

it cost the dude who sent me his gpu and psu $317 for shipping

[wicked blade]

God bless Serbia

[wintry depot]

you could just say canada is fucked and i would agree

[wintry depot]

130e is prob more than 170$ xD

[wicked blade]

No

Canadian yes

[wintry depot]

it is

[wicked blade]

US no

[wintry depot]

$ CAD

why would i talk about us dollars

[wicked blade]

Canadian dolar is fake dolar

[wintry depot]

idc

why would i say us $ when i dont live there

[wicked blade]

Yeah, but this is 190 canadian

With taxes and everything

[wintry depot]

what

[wicked blade]

Okay, no taxes, it is 190 dolars to buy

We don't have taxes on used stuff

That would be idiotic

[wintry depot]

i think we probably do

[wicked blade]

[wintry depot]

we have taxes on everything

except

bread

milk

water

and

thats all

i think

[wicked blade]

Jesus Christ

I mean we do have taxes

But on non essencial stuff

[wintry depot]

so yeah

we have canadian taxe

[wicked blade]

Hey, at least ur taxes are calculated inside the prices

[wintry depot]

and quebec taxe

[wintry depot]

no

XDDDDDDDDD

[wicked blade]

So Canada is same US

Nice

[wintry depot]

yes

[wicked blade]

Both ass

Got it

[wintry depot]

yep

probably australia is the same aswell

[wicked blade]

How hard is it to include taxes inside the prices?

[wintry depot]

no idea

[wicked blade]

Europe figured it out ages ago

It can't be that hard

[wintry depot]

eh

idk why it snot like that

[quartz turret]

USA USA

[wintry depot]

but canada's pretty dumb ngl

[wicked blade]

Hey, at least u use metric @wintry depot

[wintry depot]

we

use

both

...............

[wicked blade]

LMFAO

[wintry depot]

for different situations

[wicked blade]

[wintry depot]

for temperature

cooking is farenheit

weather is celsius

[wicked blade]

Why the f

Would u do that

[wintry depot]

WE ARE THE SPECIAL KID

XDDDDDDDDDD

[fervent ibex]

speak for yourself

all my appliances in cel

[wintry depot]

well msot canadians are that way

lucky

well idc anyway

[wicked blade]

Most accurate way to measure temperature is Kelvin

The Ce

Then Faren

It is dead last

[wintry depot]

raven

check that

[wicked blade]

What the actual fuck is that

[wintry depot]

actually in quebec, in distance we talk in time

[wicked blade]

Yeah, I refuse to comment

[nova garden]

[wintry depot]

im 30mins away, not km or miles or whatever

[wicked blade]

We can all see it is dumb

[fervent ibex]

i was gonna say, we use Time as a Distance in Toronto lmao

[wintry depot]

oh

[fervent ibex]

"how far is that"
"like 10 minutes"

[wintry depot]

so it snot just quebec thing

XDDDDDD

[nova garden]

Well, using time is nice for distance when there’s frequently traffic or other shit.

[wintry depot]

i use metro so no traffic

[nova garden]

Like yeah, my hotel was 10 miles away from the restaurant, but it took 45 minutes to get there due to traffic.

[wintry depot]

well tbf i dont go out

[nova garden]

I hate Chicago

[wicked blade]

[gleaming pendant]

Lol nerd

[lunar hedge]

I don't remember the last time I've ever really used yards in practicality except for math questions back at school

[wintry depot]

not really

i just dont like going out

im lazy

[midnight marlin]

sports

[lunar hedge]

Ah yeah, football

Sorry American football

[cunning mesa]

a lot of the traffic in the world would get fixed if people walked to the things they nearby tbh

some people take the car to go to whatever place is 5 mins away

[wicked blade]

A sport where grown males push and fight eachother while holding a handball and it is for some reason called football

[lunar hedge]

Foot the ball

[wicked blade]

[glacial marsh]

[lunar hedge]

Meh

[dim lark]

I'll tickle you on the back of ur throat

[swift lava]

Give gems

[fresh flint]

what did u get banned for

exploit or rmt

[cunning mesa]

i can offer things for your gems

instead of just asking for them

[swift lava]

[cunning mesa]

wdym i was going to offer a lvl 1 gem in exchange

[swift lava]

[cunning mesa]

[fresh flint]

i will suck all toes for gems

[cunning mesa]

thats a good offer

but doesnt beat my lvl 1 gem

[lunar hedge]

[stark thicket]

[bright whale]

PARSHA

U ABUSED?

HOW CLULD YOU

[fresh flint]

its parsha

not surprised

[stark thicket]

Not me next, pick yumi

[wicked blade]

Huh, only for nomination we get a 1000

Pog

[analog path]

genshin impact

[wicked blade]

Wuthering Waves

[wintry depot]

no thats wuwa

[analog path]

genshin clone

[lunar hedge]

Wuwa

[wicked blade]

Stop with blasphemy

[vague stirrup]

[wicked blade]

THANK U WUWA FOR FREE PULLS

[analog path]

🤮

[wicked blade]

Found Genshin shill in LOA DC

What a surprise

[analog path]

dog last time i played genshin was 2.5 years ago

also genshin is a pile of dogshit

[wicked blade]

Not really, it is nice game

Run into the ground by ass company

[quartz turret]

i need to pull

[nova garden]

i love gacha

i'm playing one rn actually

[wicked blade]

I need good echo now

[quartz turret]

where is wuwa drip marketing tho

[nova garden]

isn't yinlin rerun next?

[quartz turret]

for the next patch

[wicked blade]

It is always when phase 2 drops

New 5-star is glacio dps

in 2.0

That uses coordinated attack team

Simular to Jinshi

[wicked blade]

The only 5-star that I refuse to pull

Overrated af

[stark thicket]

drop market is here

Hello rosey

[nova garden]

i think she's hot

so i pulled

[wicked blade]

I don't play for that

But changli hoter

[nova garden]

i have her too

i pulled because i bet her sweat tastes spicy

[wicked blade]

I didn't plan to pull for Camellya

Now time to hunt flowers

[quartz turret]

https://tenor.com/view/smol-illegally-smol-cat-cute-cat-boop-gif-3484507763170497045

i need a support cuz i didnt get shorekeeper

[nova garden]

same

i lost 50/50

surely there's a shorekeeper rerun sometime soonge

[wicked blade]

10 more pulls for Camellya weapon, lets gooo

[nova garden]

[wicked blade]

Take mine... I won 50-50 after getting Shorekeeper in 10 pulls for S1

Never gonna build pity again

[nova garden]

i will never understand people who have gambling addiction build pity

[wicked blade]

Ez max camellya

I'm stacked

[wicked blade]

Camellya team gonna go insane

[quartz turret]

ive never used her

[wicked blade]

Danjin outro

Buffing Camellya dmg by 23%

[quartz turret]

[wicked blade]

I just need to snag her signature weapon

This going to Danjin

[wicked blade]

Yeah, I didn't use her aswell

[quartz turret]

i still have my 5* weapon box

prob gonna get a 2nd sword

[wicked blade]

You can see her being lvl 1

[stark thicket]

[quartz turret]

[wicked blade]

And easy guaranteed weapon

Thanks for food Kuro

Thanks God for not being scam weapon banner like in Genshin

[wicked blade]

Verina is my best in slot for Jinhsi

I don't mind getting more of her

[wicked blade]

okay

No

[stark thicket]

[wicked blade]

I got him last and completed my standard roster

Please not more of him

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-lingyang-wuwa-changli-lingyang-changli-lingyang-changyang-gif-17628500255254978655

[wicked blade]

The hell is that abomination

[stark thicket]

chat we love wuwa

[worn current]

Can you help me do a boss fight on tfd real quick? Lol

Oh nvm you got off

[nova garden]

Sure

What boss?

Takes me like 2 minutes to fire up the game anyways.

[worn current]

Just hard mode executioner lol. I havent played in a minute so i didnt have a boss build set up lol

[nova garden]

Sure

[swift lava]

lemme get emn in 20 hours and 49 min

[dim lark]

stfu u old fart

[olive shuttle]

should i click this purple or rr

aiming for 5/3

[wicked blade]

That purple will fuck u up

But risk it for the buscuit

Or use last reroll

[tawny lion]

why do people buy the individual skin box

[obtuse oyster]

the commuity is dumb

they'll buy a skin in pieces for like 90k gold total

when the box is being sold for 50-60k

[tawny lion]

No kidding it’s ez gold but yeah ur right, really dumb lol

Makes no sense

[frail swallow]

They are doing a Yinlin rerun before Lumi?

[vapid bluff]

Yinlin is after camellya

[empty sleet]

Bois is it reset today ?

[midnight marlin]

?reset

[tawny gate]

ＮＡ reset local time: <t:1730714400:t>
ＥＵ reset local time: <t:1644404400:t>
Weekly reset is on Wednesday server time.

[midnight marlin]

and read #announcements

[tawny lion]

people still play wuwa

[nova garden]

camellya made people come back

[tawny lion]

twintail weakness

[bold aspen]

u new to the game ?

[vapid bluff]

I think i broke him, i dont think he was coded to deal with hyper awakening

[nova garden]

also the fact she was teased super early into the game's release

[tawny lion]

i guess ill log on and try to get her then i havent touched in awhile

[nova garden]

she's really strong

[vapid bluff]

people never stopped playing wuwa

Just because it isnt a mainstream game like genshind doesnt mean its not very successful, the CEO came out and said they dont even care about making the most numbers, they are content if the players are

[bold aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/sage-gif-8633166558179242754

[empty sleet]

Yeah stated like 3 days ago

[bold aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/mokoko-thumbs-up-gif-26940417

[worn current]

https://www.ign.com/articles/final-fantasy-14-mobile-announced-tencent?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Manual&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

ffxiv mobile game

[vapid bluff]

lmao

[daring lava]

has there been new class in kr yet

[vapid bluff]

No

We'll get a class reveal in december for Loan

[daring lava]

ok what was the most recent i forgot

breaker ?

[vapid bluff]

Yup

[daring lava]

kk

[bold aspen]

i never saw you actually chat before always just random moment with random link

[worn current]

i always talk in here lol

[bold aspen]

never saw u talk in here

[fervent ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-cat-sad-cry-gif-5186824962255266509

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-komaru-cat-komaru-gif-komaru-everyday-komaru-flower-gif-16010071609240271312

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[analog path]

who else likes horizontal more than actual raids

[tawny lion]

only you

[analog path]

[tawny lion]

the only raid i hate is echidna

[vagrant cradle]

i can agree with g1

g2 is okay

[tawny lion]

i dont like g2 cuz i can't greed

[mystic basin]

Wdym

You can greed more in g2 than 1

Unless your stag party

[swift lava]

I know who I’m using the event on

[mystic basin]

I'll use it on my sharpshitter

He has the leaps and shards to hit 1620 easy

Just orehas

[swift lava]

My Paladin is 1550 rn

So he desperately needs the help w the event stuff

Plus it will be so nice to have a sup in t4 to help out or trade w

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-arab-helicopter-gif-24466643

[tulip charm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1guwf4l/people_are_getting_unbanned_and_it_seems_like/?sort=new

[analog path]

lmfao if this is true

i literally said
imagine if they keep everything

[vagrant cradle]

how are they this incompetent they've had a month to figure it out now

[analog path]

they are as skilled as the dumbasses in your lobbies that fail to collect artist heal balls

[vagrant cradle]

[tulip charm]

if you look at the screenshot, they apparently removed all the duped t3 oreha fusion mats

and the red/blue stones look normal also, so they prob removed that

but they let 9k healing/bomb/uility chests in ther still magically

guess they gonna need another 2 weeks, + another 2 weeks indefinitely

[stark thicket]

my leaf

[analog path]

lmao i hope they do another 2 week ban wave

that would be so entertaining

[vagrant cradle]

my leaf

[wicked blade]

Yinlin is after Camellya and Lumi is 4 star on Yinlin's rerun banner

[frail swallow]

Wait Lumi is only a 4 star? The hell?

[wicked blade]

Yup

She is only 4 star

[frail swallow]

Was hoping for another 5 star broadsword

[wicked blade]

It is hard to tell who is 5-star and 4-star in WuWa

Some NPC's look like they could be 5-stars

[frail swallow]

Her kit too kind of felt 5 star

[wicked blade]

Soon 2.0 will bring ice dps and 2.1 fusion dps

[frail swallow]

Hmm so I guess we will see if one is a broadsword

[wicked blade]

Yeah, guns, broadsword or gauntlets

[frail swallow]

I may as well save till then

[wicked blade]

Yup, good idea

I usually pull signature weapon for main dps aswell

Cuz for sub/supp it doesn't really matter

[frail swallow]

Yeh. I feel I may need a new supp eventually as well

[wicked blade]

You didn't pull shorekeeper?

[frail swallow]

Nope

[wicked blade]

Yeah, so many people skipped her

Now they are regreting that

[frail swallow]

Wasnt she right after changli?

[wicked blade]

No

She was 1.3 I believe

After Zhezhi

[safe lark]

My shorekeeper is the only one with dedicated weapon

StronK

[frail swallow]

Maybe people decided to hold out for camelya

[wicked blade]

Now much difference between Variation and her sign

Main dps benefits the most from signature

[safe lark]

I did skip chiangli and zhezhi tho

[wicked blade]

I got all of em as F2P except Yinlin (I don't like her)

[safe lark]

Now got camellya and trying to get her sword

[wicked blade]

And I lost all except one 50-50

So people are holding on pulls for no reason in WuWa

[wicked blade]

Meh, getting signature is super easy in WuWa

100% guaranteed

Not like in genshin where it is 33%

[safe lark]

Well its not easy to have enough wishes

Maybe if char is coming earlier than pity

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[thorny olive]

Guess item boxes has no value

It's a 50/50 if you kept everything or lost most stuff

[analog path]

wdym, like half the people kept everything and the other half lost a portion of their mats?

[thorny olive]

Yesh

[analog path]

kept everything

[thorny olive]

Ok not the gold maybe

But I have a friend, and they removed most of the stuff from her inventory, but her friend apparently still has everything

[analog path]

someone on reddit said it doesn't affect bound gold

[thorny olive]

[analog path]

what about gear though, that was honed courtesy of exploit

i don't reckon any gear got de-honed

[thorny olive]

Think she's sleeping, can't ask sadly

[thorny olive]

No, people kept all their honing, armor quality, etc but should get gold reduction for it

[analog path]

oh. nohhh.

wait till the redditors find out about that

[thorny olive]

They said that you'll have gold deducted for any items they can't remove, like if they are used/destroyed

But.. looks to me like some people only got gold deducted but kept the items

[analog path]

few things
question becomes what exactly is worth what amount of gold
ok let's say a proportional amount of gold was deducted: i think people are still gonna be madge when exploiters get to be higher ilvl for x amount of time when they shouldn't be
and especially regarding gold to hones, there isn't an exact gold conversion for anything when markets are dynamic

[royal summit]

wouldn't be surprising- not sure how they keep track and how their database looks like- the easiest and laziest approach would probably really be gold deduction- but for that, they need to calculate how much- which would mean, they WOULD need to know how much they cheated- so might aswell remove the items then? If they can't- then that also means they don't know how much gold to deduct- and flip a coin or smth lmao?

[analog path]

people are wondering if they even have the ability to do certain things or track certain things
i think that's hillarious

[thorny olive]

Yeah, I agree, but I think the people who got far on item level are perma anyway

[royal summit]

they must be able to track so many things though- I've asked customer support once to restore my freshly crafted akkan weapon, which i destroyed like a dumbo, and they only asked for the time and character name- so they DO keep track of items somehow (and yes they restored it within 1 day actually)

[thorny olive]

Yes, they do, they have restored many things

But.. I think their problem is checking if whatever they are doing actually worked or not xD

[royal summit]

:D

[analog path]

even then right, it becomes relative
idk if we consider 1660 high, but imagine 2 mokokos: a legit one vs an exploit one
if at any point an exploiter has progressed more than a legit player for an equal amount of playtime then its already a concern
imagine being legit and you hone to 1645 and then exploiter for same or less time especially with vacation ends up higher

1 month vacation

probably everyone agrees already that the solution was hot garbage
and the redditors are going to have a field day with this one when they wake up tomorrow

[thorny olive]

Yeah, I agree, but I'm coping that the stuff they got didn't cover much so the ones who didn't get perma aren't far ahead

[royal summit]

we also have an exception for once- the latest raid ISN'T being gatekept to hell and back

so you actually didn't really get punished if you had to wait a month now

(pug-wise)

[analog path]

yeah

[royal summit]

sure you're behind in gear a bit but hey

also looks like I'm getting the loa book from korea in 5 days?

[analog path]

1 whole month ban for that was crazy though

loa merch what the

[royal summit]

auto translated my way through the shop seems to have worked lmao

[thorny olive]

ALADIN

[thorny olive]

AGS not being able to do shit properly and freaks out last second

[royal summit]

yeah ayo

[thorny olive]

Setting collection

Will it make my game run better

[royal summit]

it is p2w after all

so yes

[royal summit]

https://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=300837&site=lostark

looked cool

[analog path]

call me tin foil hat for this one, but i hypothesize that ags wouldn't have done jack shit if that goofy troll kr streamer didn't stream that exploit
they said it was going on for 10 days and at that point they probably would have rather fixed it silently and swept it under the rug

[royal summit]

and I'm pretty sure we're not getting a release of it in the west

had to get it 👀

[analog path]

that is pretty cool

[royal summit]

i mean that's a general business move- why bother fixing something, if nobody cares

enough people cared, so they did something- and to maximize profit, you only do the least amount of work, right

(fixing shit doesnt generate revenue)

[analog path]

but one thing that's certain is the sort-of response to the fiasco on AGS side was 100% reactionary
they don't have a plan for when the shit hits the fan

[royal summit]

(short-term)

[analog path]

i mean i think it could
if you can exploit your way to xyz power level why would you swipe

[thorny olive]

Oh, nah, you're most likely correct at some extent, if that degen streamer hadn't shown it off, far less people would have done it and AGS probably would have just patched it in next update..
But instead we get this degen kr streamer showing it off.. thanks for locking me in my stronghold

[analog path]

if true, he's truly the prime antagonist of lost ark
the premiere troll
nobody has ever seen something like that before

[royal summit]

goes both ways right

they HAVE to fix it now

BUT alot of people will be tempted to do it on their own

kinda like the new rule in japan

😂

[thorny olive]

XD

[analog path]

oh i saw that

[thorny olive]

Well, that's true, but I mean, he was a partner or something right, I'm sure there would been a better route

[royal summit]

oh was he

[thorny olive]

He was something at least

AGS got upset about him showing it so they cut him off xD

[analog path]

i didn't watch the stream but, he was unpartnered for showing the exploit
the correct move would be to publicize the fact that it does exist

[thorny olive]

"encouraging exploiting"

[analog path]

yeah

[thorny olive]

Well, assuming partners can't communicate with AGS about these kind of things.. yeah

But surely they can!??!

I mean, I don't know, but if they can't, what's the point of being a partner

[analog path]

if the videogame doesn't have a partner program then i hypothesize they wouldn't have that

like in game

kind of like creator codes
and if they do have a program that i don't know of then wtf is happening even

[thorny olive]

Idk, to me it just sounds strange that a "partner" doesn't have a way to speak to them

I mean, he literally got a message from them saying they are sad he encouraged exploiting and ended partnership

So like what

[analog path]

from smilegate?

[thorny olive]

From AGS

[analog path]

i find it wild that they can have a partner program but something like that still got to go on for 10 days until something was done about it, and only with a high publicity event

there's no way someone like stoops i think his name was wouldn't have contacted them at that point

[royal summit]

pretty sure that was clout chasing though

I'm a man of the moment aswell, probably would've been equally dum to do that

then again who knows what partner really means

[zealous lintel]

i like this

[analog path]

so i searched the net to look for partner program
HUH

[bold aspen]

i bet you like her small feet aswell

[analog path]

WHAT IS THIS

[zealous lintel]

[bold aspen]

no need to pretend now sir

[thorny olive]

Yeah

[thorny olive]

Idk, feel like their communication should be slightly better than the average player, but who knows

Maybe AGS treats everyone equally shit

[burnt tree]

stoopzz just sends discord messages to henry thats about it

[analog path]

i have no clue who henry is

[burnt tree]

the guy who writes the patch notes/patch notes videos

also a 4 time sidereal stone dropper

[analog path]

idk what that is either Lol

[thorny olive]

He dropped his 7th sidereal the other day

[burnt tree]

7th?

[zealous lintel]

[analog path]

is it just a rare drop like fate ember that gives something cool

[burnt tree]

aishh new players

[thorny olive]

Actually, seems like it's a "creator program" but they also call it "partner swag" ..

Signing up for the Creator Program is a great way to let us know you’re interested in working with us to make your Lost Ark content even better! As a member of the Creator Program you could have access to a variety of benefits, including:

• Giveaway codes
• Exclusive partner swag
• Social media promotion
• Access to special events
• And much more!

[burnt tree]

its just worse a lot of gold

[analog path]

i quit for a few months OK

[burnt tree]

worth*

[zealous lintel]

and hey (hen-)kat

[analog path]

yeah this is what i saw

[burnt tree]

they lost me at partner swag

[thorny olive]

Yeah idk

[burnt tree]

swag? tf is this? 2014?

[low nebula]

YO COUNT ME IN

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-misono-mika-happy-wave-mika-gif-3013490862214836124

[thorny olive]

"working with us" usually doesn't mean one way communication... But who knows, AGS has a tendency to write everything in a misleading, almost confusing way

[analog path]

if there's an article on that i'm assuming there's demand for it
so like is this a normal thing internet people do because it sounds bizzare to me

[analog path]

they also tend to just flip flop and even lie sometimes

[thorny olive]

YES

[analog path]

nooobody who plays loa trusts ags.

[low nebula]

nowdays i think its just ai written piece of shit

[analog path]

who needs AI when you have a studio full of circus monkeys.

[thorny olive]

idk wtf is up with them, but istg, they manage to make 90% of the "important" stuff they write confusing

[royal summit]

what color are your socks

[low nebula]

managment, firing all the monkeys but one and forcing that one making same output much more $ efficient

[thorny olive]

Currently black

[analog path]

overworked monkey

i wonder if they downsized anything after the game lost 90% of its playerbase

[low nebula]

i wasnt speaking about lost ark

i was about that article of lost ark egirl

[analog path]

oh, lol

[thorny olive]

You'd think AGS could be more clear about things, but I think they actually enjoy it.. and we're all masochists

[low nebula]

i think next day after release on naeu ags downsized team by 90% as every other game

well all games i worked on were downsized 6 month before release

its all outsource so doesnt matter anyway

[analog path]

i am just here to watch the community eat itself alive and i ate very well when the ignite exploit thing was happening

[low nebula]

im not eating anyone

i care they fix it, but dont care that much tho

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[low nebula]

its really not much different from rmt from bots

[analog path]

they probably did more harm than good trying to fix that

[thorny olive]

Well, doesn't matter how many people are on the team if AGS handles it as bad as they handle patch notes

[analog path]

and now that we know how goofy ags is, in retrospect, we shouldnve expected them to be able to fix something difficult like bots

they take 6 hours to change daylight saving for in game clock ffs

[thorny olive]

Imagine the team getting info about what they have to do few hours before maintenance

[low nebula]

i dont think much is on ags there btw

i think smilegate is incompetent

well we can see it in everything game design related

[thorny olive]

Well, they put their name on it, so it's their responsibility too

[low nebula]

why you think them making shitty patches for KR, as they did every single erlease is diff now when we got patch first idk

[analog path]

maybe
it could totally just be some low clearance interns at smilegate that happen to speak english as well, and its a whole game of like 3-way telephone

[low nebula]

recent one KR - hyper awa skills released with cutscene disabled

[analog path]

between ags smilegate and whoever was hired to do the thing

[thorn sluice]

The announced nerf kakul-echidna hp means that also echidna is nerfed ?

[thorny olive]

Uuuuh

What

[low nebula]

no idea those nerfs, i dont even see why its needed

[thorn sluice]

For average pug

[thorny olive]

Don't touch my echidna..

[thorn sluice]

[low nebula]

who pugs kakul?

i mean everyone who does

but

[analog path]

i mean smilegate does have some really good game design ideas, but they probably have a few pepegas that throw monkey wrench into the machinery, so a lot of things end up going sideways

[low nebula]

who cares?

[thorn sluice]

Idc about Kakul

I wanna know echidna

[low nebula]

99% of their game design is garbage

[thorn sluice]

[thorny olive]

Who still does Kakul

[low nebula]

maybe for tokens?

[thorny olive]

She doesn't need it though

[low nebula]

i need to time it, im out of solo raid tokens

[thorn sluice]

Idc if he needs or no dude

[low nebula]

and you can buy blue stones for it

[thorn sluice]

They announced it

[thorny olive]

We're way overpowering echidna

[thorn sluice]

[thorny olive]

Ah, yeah, AGS denting again

[thorn sluice]

I mean , hp nerf = faster runs

Who the fuck cares

Also , good choice

Less time to clear all raids

[thorny olive]

I'm not opposed to it, It just seems extremely random and unnecessary

[analog path]

compared to other mmos they have some good things
like gear transfer, free pets i think was one
but i also think elixir and trans is complete dentge
gameplay itself is good
game optimization is bad, but ue 3 i guess
most horizontal is dentge
vertical progression is pretty good i think

[low nebula]

i kinda assume its normal mode nerfs

[thorny olive]

To me, I feel like, why are they focusing on that stuff when there's probably more productive things they can do

But if nm is too hard for people, well, fair enough

[analog path]

from my pov i do like nerf after a while because then the homework become less jail and its more dentge player friendly

[low nebula]

They actually need to expand horisontal and stuff

sec gonna find the wisdom

[analog path]

they should just nerf the shit out of the amount of time needed for some things in the tome especially, and some island souls

[thorny olive]

HP nerf on echidna kinda only helps homework because dentge players will become charmed either way trying to DPS

[analog path]

i happen to like horizontal but i acknowledge that 99% of the playerbase doesn't

[thorny olive]

Yus

[low nebula]

here with timestamp https://youtu.be/tmuy9fyNUjY?t=1426
you actually need to understand how gaming works, and how its really bad if we get only raids

[thorny olive]

More players would enjoy it if it didn't feel so forced

[analog path]

needs a good balance

[thorny olive]

Honestly, I like horizontal, but locking important things behind it makes it forced and I can't do it in my own pace and that's not fun

[analog path]

most people just ignore mokoko seeds
the tome and igneas are very boring and repetitive. they have the same formula over and over again and adventure items and food are the worst.
i actually like island souls
omnium star is generally great, because it ties into vertical progression a lot with field boss

[low nebula]

I hate horisontal cos its garbage and poorly designed and balanced in every single aspect of it

like wtf is fight piñata for 3000 silver

[analog path]

lol wot

[thorny olive]

Mm, island rewards are quite garbage

[low nebula]

yea you go to any island and if you not for achivement - you gain nothing

[analog path]

its quite fortunate though that 80% of horizontal you can just ignore

[low nebula]

see if you could do it to get some sort of tokens

i would do some

and those who like it would have someone to do it with

[analog path]

those that like horizontal can do it and vertical players can skip it
but then why are we wasting developer brain on something only 1% of players care aboot

[thorny olive]

That'd be great, a weekly shop for it perhaps

[low nebula]

right now if island requires ppl you doomed

[analog path]

Yes

[low nebula]

but if i got my few leaps from it, i could join it to help you to farm mount

what 5-7 mins really

[analog path]

old field bosses too
but i think you can get t4 and solo elgacia and voldis?

[thorny olive]

Yes but the stuff they drop isn't worth it anymore so that makes it stale

[low nebula]

i dont see why they cant just pump numbers on it, even on silver

like why 3k silver from it

WHY 3k

its insulting.

[analog path]

yeah i think they need to

1. make it less boring, repetitive and time consuming
2. find a good balance between importance and optionality

and co-op horizontals are just dentge

[low nebula]

they all always boring in every game, its ok

[thorny olive]

It's ridiculously bad

[analog path]

yeah but farming like 650 of a mob drop for a single food
that takes maybe 5 hours
is terrible

[low nebula]

well

you have it

and im not

you better gamer.

[storm bronze]

Ladies

[low nebula]

Always have been, thats how mounts work in wow (used to kek)

[analog path]

well if it wasn't that bad more people would want to do it, and the people who want to do it actually enjoy it more, and horizontal wouldn't have to be so cut off from the actual game Lol

[thorny olive]

if ppl have something you don't it just means they either got lucky or live in their moms basement

Or.. enjoy doing whatever

But not a lot of people enjoy doing anything

[analog path]

oh and then there's life skill

ah shit

[low nebula]

you dont need to everyone to do endless grind, but coop things should be designed in a way "why wouldnt i join it"

[thorny olive]

It's fine now after T4.. before that tho..

[rocky plume]

🐢

[low nebula]

instead of yaping in this chat if we could be doing spida

[thorny olive]

Vora turtle

[low nebula]

you get chance to get soul, i get my leaps

[analog path]

yeah
its 0 incentive

[thorny olive]

No the servers are down

[rocky plume]

[analog path]

some of those islands have repetition incentive like lush reed iirc

[low nebula]

tooki for 20 gold lel

[analog path]

only a few of those islands

[thorny olive]

That's generous

[stark thicket]

you call wrong person

[thorny olive]

Islands like uh.. whatever that new one with the shop was called, those are good because you actually gain something out of it

[rocky plume]

I dont

[stark thicket]

[analog path]

there was that side scroller mokoko one

i liked it

they can be really creative with some islands

[thorny olive]

Oh yeah mokoko island was the best

[analog path]

ice maze island

[thorny olive]

Babayaga

[thorny olive]

Confusing :(((

I used a guide.. sry

[rocky plume]

In Out in Out island

[thorny olive]

Yeeep

Get that spawn..

Except my boat broke before I did

[analog path]

hmm idk if i remember that one

[thorny olive]

Very cool

[analog path]

there were some nasty pvp islands

[thorny olive]

Media is ok

Lush reed not so much

[analog path]

i would just be on emperor arcana and hit emperor
like every under levelled in my range would just pop liek a chaos dungeon mob

it was NASTY

[thorny olive]

Go bard and constantly cc ppl

Idk, pvp islands was fun a while back because everyone was bad, almost none of the pvp sweats went there

[analog path]

and then when gvg existed we started gearing up for pvp

[thorny olive]

Rowen was pretty cool ngl..

[analog path]

i feel nostalgic and sad remembering doing Gesbroy island with like 50 people
and progging alaric's sanctuary, yelling at the 7/8 person to hit esc and skip nineveh's dumb ass cutscene

[thorny olive]

But dead content now

[thorny olive]

XD

[thorny olive]

Well he thought it was good ass

[analog path]

i thought she's pretty dumb,
"alaric looks pissed off"
"we should go closer"

[thorny olive]

XD

She's cute tho

Ninebae

[analog path]

yeah she's alr ig

[thorny olive]

I only did that hell of a raid just a handful of times

Valtan Wei strat tho

Pogger, everyone too dent to do orb mech

[analog path]

valtan was so funny when people get yeeted off the edge

[thorny olive]

XD

[analog path]

more likely to win lottery than have a full team of 8 alive at the end after the ghost transition mech

[thorny olive]

I still get yeeted

I got yeeted when doing extreme valtan because of his dumb ass spinny spin

[analog path]

that thing has absurd knockback

[thorny olive]

Yes..

And I'm dumb and walk 1 cm too close

And fly off

Me: I can walk there
Game: nope, ur fatter than u look
Me:

[analog path]

makes me wonder what the hitboxes are like
people historically said they are pretty scuffed in general

[thorny olive]

They are inconsistent

It's weird

Sometimes ur out and still get hit, other times ur not in but still got in

That thaemine thingy with the open spots made that noticable

[analog path]

what was that one guardian raid with that boss that looks like a tree
you'd always get hit by that cross push attack even though it looked like you weren't in range.

[thorny olive]

Oh yeah, those are fucked

[analog path]

i haven't seen thaemine yet, how bad is it lol

[thorny olive]

U have to go pretty far out to not get hit

[thorny olive]

Uhh

G3 is quite the gate for new players

Lots of things that can kill u :((

[analog path]

hmm i'll watch video

[thorny olive]

But I think if you're 1640+ you'll be okay, in nm at least, hm people still struggle sometimes

[analog path]

holy cow that is a lot of timestamps

[wise pasture]

Just do g4 right away

[vapid nexus]

imagine have problems with thaemine

as t4

[thorny olive]

Somehow

[analog path]

well no matter how much damage you push out you can't do mech you fall onto the floor

[vapid nexus]

on g4 yea

to fall from map in g3 you have to be kinda bad

[thorny olive]

Ehm

[bold aspen]

@wicked blade

[wise pasture]

It can happen, but In general it is peoples own fault.

[thorny olive]

Yea

[vapid nexus]

just dont stay in corners

and should be fine

[analog path]

are there any overlaps like brel

[thorny olive]

Not really

[analog path]

we know it gets pretty funky with overlaps even if you are good

[vapid nexus]

😎

💀

[thorny olive]

Well, sometimes there might be some overlap, but it's not as bad no

[vapid nexus]

bro yuo can clear g3 normal as 1610 no elixir no trans

just hop in xd

[analog path]

i din even do g2 yet i just did 1 to ignite

[vapid nexus]

ignite thaemine was 50% hp

btw

[thorny olive]

But yes, G3 nm, you'll be fine

[vapid nexus]

you need 8mil dps to clear ignite thaemine XD

[thorny olive]

G3 hm, you need to know the patterns or you die

[vapid nexus]

not really

maybe on ilvl

but we got ha etc

[analog path]

nerfed, but makes sense i guess
players didn't even have full skill points

[vapid nexus]

its just 5 min speedrun

[vapid nexus]

skill points dosent metter

to be fair

mostly low spec

no runes

[analog path]

weren't you missing 2 lv 10

kinda bad on some class

[thorny olive]

Well, if he doesn't know red pattern in hm, it's likely he'll die

That deals 500k damage

[analog path]

but overall for those who know how to do the mech should be cakewalk

[vapid nexus]

its mostly just follow team

[thorny olive]

True

[vapid nexus]

there is no mech to be real

its just dmg raid

[analog path]

g3?

[vapid nexus]

like akkan

[vapid nexus]

yea

[analog path]

i haven't done akkan i quit at hard brel

lololo

[vapid nexus]

to be real for you

this game was not good to learn etc

just find ppl which one help you

[thorny olive]

Understandable, many did

[analog path]

yeah i'm trying to
feel like its kinda hard to connect
can't find a guild yet

[thorny olive]

Lucky for you, none of the current raids are as painful (anymore at least) like brel

[vapid nexus]

guild = usless

[analog path]

every single guild that i knew before the mergers died

[vapid nexus]

find a players to play with

[analog path]

no liek guild discord

[thorny olive]

GUILD TICKETS

[vapid nexus]

yea 1 cube per week xd

[thorny olive]

Better than none

[analog path]

you find a 300 player active guild discord you have a pretty good platform already to learn raids

[thorny olive]

[vapid nexus]

no one will learn raids with you to be real

i dont think ppl still doing thaemine normal

anymore

[analog path]

i saw a few

[vapid nexus]

trust me

if ppl are 1640+

[analog path]

jailge

[vapid nexus]

and doing normal thaemine echidna

they must be bad

trust me

[analog path]

alr

they said i should be pretty well off though, i did bard, and i have that leaf

[thorny olive]

I do hm echidna but nm thaemine sometimes

[vapid nexus]

bard = most usless support

[vapid nexus]

🤣 l2p

[thorny olive]

Because people are too dumb to do g3 hm

[vapid nexus]

ppl on normal are crazy

[analog path]

i actually know how to play bard

[vapid nexus]

there is nothing hard in playing support

[analog path]

Yep

[vapid nexus]

you prob run heavy armor anyway

[analog path]

yeah

i used to not

on bard

[vapid nexus]

heavy armor bard = pussy ngl

[analog path]

[vapid nexus]

use mana stream

😎

[analog path]

mana, max mp, vital, ether drops

[vapid nexus]

only artist have to run heavy armor

[analog path]

wom wom tripod

stigma

pump that meter beibee

[thorny olive]

Magick stream

Best engraving for sups atm

They removed the negative

[analog path]

oh yeah i saw

and also DS becomes
ark passive node instead

something like that

noo more mana issues?

[wise pasture]

Mp furnace denies

[thorny olive]

There's ark passive stuff that increase brand power but cripple your mana

[analog path]

mana ptsd right here

entropy PS mana issue flashbacks

[thorny olive]

But atm, if you're not using ark passive, magick stream fixes mana issues

For the most part at least

[analog path]

ye that would be nice to play

[storm bronze]

Up ?

[wise pasture]

No

[storm bronze]

🇪🤡🇸

[analog path]

idk how many mana engravings there are now
is there a build with ark passive that you sacrifice HA for mana

[thorny olive]

I'm sure it depends on build/focus runes too, but on my bard and artist magick stream fixes

[analog path]

CJ?

[thorny olive]

No CJ

[analog path]

what do you replace with

[thorny olive]

Idk, look at guide

https://lostark.nexus