lost-ark-discussions

[buoyant wagon]

💀

More like 10k if you want to hone to 25

[storm bronze]

No balls

[worn current]

@nova garden @tardy tusk
On my 3rd pull

[tulip charm]

wait, that wasn't you that made red rocks go to 30g 2 days ago??

[buoyant wagon]

No

I barely spent anything in t4

[tardy tusk]

niceee

[tulip charm]

[ancient tundra]

Gz mf

[buoyant wagon]

Maybe like $300 on 1.5m gold?

[ancient tundra]

Now wep

[buoyant wagon]

That’s about it

[wise pasture]

my double mid % ear sold for 550k within few hours on EU

[buoyant wagon]

And most of that went towards accessories that rolled shit

Fuck buying books and gems now

[wise pasture]

mid low should be about the 200

[wise pasture]

that is why we buy legendary skins now

[buoyant wagon]

Double gold in Korea is like 2m

Which I think is reasonable if it lasts all of T4

[wise pasture]

quite pricy, but ye

[buoyant wagon]

Might be 1.5m even, I forgot

[wise pasture]

wouldnt be buying that for all 6 chars full sets

[azure valley]

you are mistaking serenei for nova

[cursive ruin]

hopped on my army friend's account

got him set 35 and set 40

[storm bronze]

How long he's bro gone

[cursive ruin]

21 days then 1 week break

[storm bronze]

You guys have military service there ?

[indigo flax]

You guys have service there?

[lime dove]

Lv6 t4 gems are equal to lv 9 t3 right?

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[obtuse oyster]

7*

6 = 8 t3

7 = 9 t3

[wise pasture]

in power roughly ye

[lime dove]

[vapid bluff]

the fact that people set item level requirements for this guardian raid, is like the saddest thing ive ever seen

[wise pasture]

wouldnt do that for main dmg gems tho

[lime dove]

So if an archived guide asks for t3 lv 9 gems to be viable does lv 6 t4 qualify

[obtuse oyster]

well he is 1690

[wintry depot]

why would a 1690 wants a 1640 rat

[vapid bluff]

oh no hes gonna kill the guardian 30 seconds faster

[wise pasture]

I do that too, it gets tiresome to keep scrolling through pages of full on rats

[obtuse oyster]

no, cause you would be roughly be running t3 8s

[lime dove]

[vapid bluff]

Its the most unfailable guardian raid in the game

[lime dove]

Saddies

[vapid bluff]

tf you mean rats

[storm bronze]

I'm 1680 i do mm

[obtuse oyster]

unfailable till rats eat all the lives

[wise pasture]

yesterday i watched sorc die 3 times within 1 min and do 9mil dps at the end, any question

[wintry depot]

just be like this guy

[storm bronze]

Ain't sitting in pf to save some hypothetical 2min

[vapid bluff]

Like you have to be a massive loser if you gatekeep this guardian raid

[lime dove]

[obtuse oyster]

the fact that he has a lvl 10 t4 just chef kiss

[lime dove]

Do I look rich?

[wise pasture]

unless it is some specific case with treshold, ye

[wintry depot]

i saw few people with lvl 10 cd t4 gems

they failed the 50/50

[vapid bluff]

this guy has fucking ark passive as a requirement

unreal

[lime dove]

[wintry depot]

just do your own lobby

[vapid bluff]

im just gonna steal my pocket support

@obtuse oyster

come

[lime dove]

Happens all the time theyd rather sit in lobby sim forever

[obtuse oyster]

sure, gimme 3

[wintry depot]

i gatekeep in guardians and i sit not even 1 min in lobby

so many applicants

[storm bronze]

No 🐀

[rose crater]

Bruh just MM argeos 99% success chance

[lime dove]

More like 75%

[wintry depot]

and then you get a fucking sorc that activated ark apssive as 1640 and do as much dmg as a support

[storm bronze]

In NA

[vapid bluff]

I mean tbf

[lime dove]

The amount of times i had no supp and ppl with no trans and elixirs

[vapid bluff]

Thats smilegates fault

[lime dove]

Ofc t3 event gems

[wise pasture]

they get outdpsed by the sups at that point, seen that multiple times literally

[vapid bluff]

How is a new player supposed to know ark passive isnt efficient to activate

[rose crater]

Mm on every single 1640 no fail so far, easiest guardian ever

[vapid bluff]

until later on, when the game tells you to turn it on

[wintry depot]

yeah but when people tell you in the chat to not do that and you just ignore them, its his own fault

[vapid bluff]

at 1640

[rose crater]

Also without support

[obtuse oyster]

the game tells you

[wintry depot]

he wasnt a new player

he just didnt give a f

[vapid bluff]

It tells you to check out ark passive and activate it

The moment you hit 1640

[storm bronze]

Go in trixion

[obtuse oyster]

It tells you the recommended points to activate ark passive

[wise pasture]

they dont assign the points, not even activation is the problem

[wintry depot]

since when this game helps you understand shit

it doesnt

[wise pasture]

sadly no

[wintry depot]

if people tells you to not do it and tell you the reason

[vapid bluff]

Which is what

[wintry depot]

and just ignore

its his own stupidity

[storm bronze]

[wicked blade]

Oh no

[vapid bluff]

oh i see

[wintry depot]

i mean, people literally dont read

its nothing new

[wise pasture]

72 evo without ancient armor is roughly 5x3 level

[storm bronze]

I read 50 shades of grey

[vapid bluff]

how many points does each ancient gear piece give

[wintry depot]

once its not smilegate's fault

[wise pasture]

20

[storm bronze]

12

[lime dove]

Uh hello

Yes it is

[wise pasture]

it goes from 8 to 20, so +12

[lime dove]

These fuckers locking ark passive

Behind wtf is that

1680?

[vapid bluff]

1660

[lime dove]

Yeah good fking job sg

1660 for some

[wise pasture]

1660 realistic

[lime dove]

But idea still stands

Like why release t4 and all

And theres a huge road block

To unlock that shit

[storm bronze]

I wonder why

[lime dove]

[wintry depot]

not talking about that

talking about the fact that it tells you to not activate it

and people still do

[wise pasture]

they plan to make it more used later, whatever that means

[lime dove]

It shud be smack dab at the start of t4

[wintry depot]

because they are stupid

[rose crater]

Yea ofc, first FOMO for whales to spend, now they make it accessible to rest

Its recipe for years now

[buoyant wagon]

You don’t have to be a whale to unlock ark passive though

[storm bronze]

The game used to be good. Hell I even carried one kaya for net and he called me a friend. Best day of my life.

[fresh flint]

To me its like any other expansion ....hit x iLvl to unlock x Feature

[buoyant wagon]

1680 was plenty accessible for people who have played for a while

Now if you want good 3 line accessories then yeah you have to whale

[storm bronze]

Just get lucky

[uncut dirge]

"for a while" = since day 1

[wise pasture]

rather gonna sell that at this point

buy full set at fraction of price few months later

[storm bronze]

I still need to get into haegir

[wintry depot]

1680 is pretty easy if you did advanced honing

if you didnt, then yeah its hard

[lime dove]

Speaking of Advanced honing

That shit is so fucked rn

[uncut dirge]

yeah but to have done advanced honing to +20 needed a shitton of stuff

[lime dove]

For ppl who didnt get to do it

[rose crater]

No not every1 does, there is plenty incentive to do it and thats the point

[lime dove]

[wise pasture]

raid is giga easy if you have 2 hands and eyes, but getting in might be annoying

[cunning mesa]

@queen grail i got underline in echi

[lime dove]

Imagine doing Echidna now

And not being able to use the mats

Till 1670?

Or some shit

[fervent ibex]

artificial reset

[buoyant wagon]

The people whaling to be finished with t4 right now aren’t buying royal crystals you know

[buoyant wagon]

[cunning mesa]

im progging

smh

[storm bronze]

Nice of you to inv

[cunning mesa]

i dont make the groups

i just get invited and joim

[uncut dirge]

man, solo akkan takes so long

even when G2 took 3 minutes it's still taking over 16 minutes total

[wise pasture]

I wish they allowed you to skip mechs in g1 and 3

[uncut dirge]

apparently in G2 you can just skip first football

by bursting to 80 bars

[storm bronze]

[cunning mesa]

[fervent ibex]

you can skip both yeah

[uncut dirge]

i knew about 2nd one but didnt know the first

[wise pasture]

you can skip anything, i skipped from full to zero without any major mech happening

[uncut dirge]

i figured he'd do football, but he did the 80 bar special sidereal mech

[storm bronze]

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed

[buoyant wagon]

Item levels have never been the issue in this game as long as you have been playing for a while

It’s always other systems

[wise pasture]

trust me, Im neither and it is easy raid

[fervent ibex]

i just 100-0'd it on my main for Clear Tokens. It did Lantern once and went into x0 phase

[uncut dirge]

ye, same

i'm doing it for shards tho

[storm bronze]

People told me it hits hard my amor is only 1675 do I need to hone my chest/pants

[fervent ibex]

No Football though

so both Footballs skipped

[uncut dirge]

i finally got my last echidna things to advanced hone my weapon to +10

[rose crater]

Every1 whales for personal reasons, i know i spent a few bucks just to push my char before next big release

[wise pasture]

if you miss a G skill yes, anything else not really

[nocturne silo]

You can skip both footballs and go right to counter mech if you burst enough 🤭

[buoyant wagon]

I’m telling you that the vast majority of whaling isn’t giving a cent to the developers

[storm bronze]

[uncut dirge]

yep

[buoyant wagon]

Not here, not in Korea, not in China

[wise pasture]

Im running there in Hm on pala without heavy armor and worst I got to was 50% hp due to someone aiming laser at my face

[wintry depot]

i mean pala is tanky

[buoyant wagon]

Only a few morons actually do and I guess the developers are satisfied with that + what they make from skins and other value packs

[wintry depot]

no need heavy armor

[wise pasture]

yeah, but worst i got to was losing about 170k hp

without any shield or pot

[wintry depot]

i died because i fell

:D

[rose crater]

Oi oi, those so called morons are keeping the game alive, put some respec on that

[wintry depot]

died 9sec before clear gg

[wise pasture]

ey, at least you lived till the end

[storm bronze]

I fall in Thaemine then I cry myself to sleep

[wise pasture]

we had phantom monarch dead 4-5 times in row before 200 bars in nm

was reclear too

[buoyant wagon]

I’m pretty sure whaling for gold is a fraction of income that comes from skins and value packs

Given how bad value royal crystals to gold is

[storm bronze]

Haven't run g3 in a while today was not my day

[wise pasture]

I have a fix for that, i go back on my zerker and slap him with my hyper awakening so he remembers me

[uncut dirge]

how can i learn echidna basement

[wise pasture]

hm or nm?

[uncut dirge]

i want experience with the normal patterns

but like 90% of the fight is in the first part

[storm bronze]

I see a lot of G2 basement prog

[uncut dirge]

and when you get to basement it's either rare in a prog lobby

or with a decent lobby it's just a clear

yeah but those "basement prog" lobbies get to basement either like once every 10 runs

[storm bronze]

NM or HM ?

[wise pasture]

ye, basement is way easier than surface

[uncut dirge]

or they just clear

either one

[wise pasture]

there isnt much difference in patterns, just medusa and few extra repeats on some

[uncut dirge]

i've done the other part so much i know all the patterns

[wise pasture]

or just flower fiedl that is very obvious

[uncut dirge]

but i go into basement and i'm like

[storm bronze]

I guess hm last mech is annoying

[cursive ruin]

futa balls

[uncut dirge]

??? can i attack? is this safe? wtf is she doing?

[turbid oriole]

[fervent ibex]

u progging hm or nm?

[uncut dirge]

either, it doesn't matter

and i've already done it

but i still have no clue about the basement patterns

[storm bronze]

Most people will skip fast in basement

Because they will hyper

[wise pasture]

check them on maxroll or some guide video, they all have them listed 1 by 1

[uncut dirge]

i mean sure, but i'd like experience fighting it

[wise pasture]

not like there is much differnce except hm walking

[fervent ibex]

zz the raid is so ingrained in me at this point, i cant even recall what to do tbh

im brainfarting

[cursive ruin]

bro has guild name and title showing

[storm bronze]

[cursive ruin]

unhinged lil fella

a

a

a

[wise pasture]

aa?

[cursive ruin]

oops

[fervent ibex]

she has some similar patterns from outside

[storm bronze]

Net why you did NM thaemine

[fervent ibex]

well like 2 lmao

2 similar patterns lol

[past ginkgo]

I just matchmake this crap

[storm bronze]

Real people mm valtan back then

[cursive ruin]

why not

i tried hm with my static didn't work

too used to skipping every pattern

no damage

[fervent ibex]

actually now that i think about it, echidna isnt really that different in basement, she just does enhanced versions of outside patterns

[wise pasture]

🤔

[wintry depot]

Its easy to skip in hm too

[cursive ruin]

balls

[storm bronze]

Okok

[wise pasture]

yeah, barely a differnce

[vapid bluff]

if I was able to rat my way into hm thaemine in the same week of learning the raid as a whole, your static should be able to do it

[wise pasture]

I always find her easier undergorund since no scary patterns

[thorn sluice]

Something for you in db chat

[storm bronze]

@thorn sluice push db 1660

[cursive ruin]

same

once we get to basement it's gg

[storm bronze]

Re looks mad fun

[cursive ruin]

i hate big echidna though

[thorn sluice]

Nah, next char is support

[cursive ruin]

wrong reply old man

click faster next time

[thorn sluice]

[thorn sluice]

Next char is pala

[storm bronze]

DPS shortage in NM bro

Go blade

[wintry depot]

Im blind i dont see

[thorn sluice]

[wintry depot]

Oh was deleted

[wise pasture]

ye, lasers get annoying at times. Besides the need to rely on people not going monkey brain on counter is also a problem

[storm bronze]

@thorn sluice you've seen db ark passive ?

[wise pasture]

only at weekend and after

[cursive ruin]

oh i'm doing nm

[storm bronze]

Yeah echidna is about team

[wise pasture]

be happy, the amount of times people fucked counter in Hm first few weeks was crazy

it is getting better, but still at times

[vapid bluff]

Would I get any benefit from clearing echidna this week as opposed to next, like isthere a material on a big time constraint that im delaying my progression on

or is advanced honing a system I dont even look at until way later in t4

[wise pasture]

unless you wanna advanced hone, no

[storm bronze]

It's too expensive for now

[fervent ibex]

I took care of it i go in there sometimes, was wondering if it was one of the regulars

[wintry depot]

I mean echidna is nice gold

[vapid bluff]

Okii, Ill just do hm ivory tower then

ya but its only like 3k more than hm ivory

[wintry depot]

I see

[wise pasture]

the chillest and easiest raid on proper char atm

[storm bronze]

Regular honing is better but echidna gives T4 mats

[wintry depot]

3k x6chars kinda big

[wise pasture]

I like echydna, especially the chest

[wintry depot]

Oh yeah forgot the t4 mats

[vapid bluff]

yeah I just dont know if Ill be able to rat my way through an echidna group and I doubt theres prog groups at this point in the week

I havent even watched a guide yet

[fervent ibex]

how rat are your characters

[storm bronze]

Aegir NM is truly chill

[analog path]

🐀

[vapid bluff]

1642 Shadowhunter, 95 trans level 7 t4 gems on demonic, rest are t6 and t5, and los 30
Also 40 elixir

[storm bronze]

You ain't missing out for a week

[wise pasture]

plenty for nm

[wintry depot]

Its fine for echidna

Even for hm

[storm bronze]

I still don't run echidna

[uncut dirge]

get hit by laser, electrocuted
echidna shoots hand laser, knocked down
stand up
get hit by laser, electrocuted
echidna shoots hand laser, knocked down
stand up
get hit by laser, electrocuted

[vapid bluff]

Do you just do ivory

[fervent ibex]

thats WAY more than what I was doing echidna with LOL i was doing echidna on my rats with all level 7 t3 bound gems and only 7c/p

you get stuck in lobby simulator for a bit, but more gold

worth it imo

[wise pasture]

hm too, but not many will want that probably since lvl7 demonic is scary to rely on

[vapid bluff]

Yeah I just heard the raid is kinda tricky

[storm bronze]

I just do aegir/behe on my main

[wise pasture]

yep, that is my experience in nutshell at times

[analog path]

i do chaos dungeon

[vapid bluff]

I really want echidna title though, I like it more than behemoth title

[storm bronze]

I do ivory cuz I got 3 rats T4 alts

And it's free gold

[past ginkgo]

I would do hard mode if I would actually prog it before

[vapid bluff]

I should just straight into hm echidna?

[past ginkgo]

Because cba to go in with NM experience and then HM specific shit comes up and I fucking fail

[fervent ibex]

if people still care to check, they ask for Trophy in stronghold rather than a title for HM reclearing

the Echidna Mirror trophy

[vapid bluff]

Its that hard ?

[fervent ibex]

you can't link it, cuz anyone can link trophies, even without clearing lol it has to be in your stronghold's trophy room

[past ginkgo]

It is same for Thaemine though

[wise pasture]

yep, not like there is any worth checking nm echydna title in hm

[fervent ibex]

its just 1 clear for HM LOL

[past ginkgo]

HM Thaemine is different

On every single gate

[vapid bluff]

no i mean like, the raid is hard enough where people are super intent on checking if you're not jail?

[storm bronze]

Mid but people just have to be careful about normal patterns and meter

[wise pasture]

without proper knowledge of patterns you are guaranteed dead

[fervent ibex]

ehh not really imo, but if you're without a decent title, maybe? really depends on raid lead i guess

nobody really checks me anymore

[vapid bluff]

I was able to do hm thaemine g3, is that harder than echidna

[wintry depot]

no

[storm bronze]

No

[past ginkgo]

I haven't even done HM Thaemine at all lmfao

[wintry depot]

what makes echidna ''hard'' is if people greed like monkeys and gets charmed all the time

[storm bronze]

But if you got some bozo that keeping getting charmed it's not gonna be fun

[wise pasture]

echydna is easier, but need to know some specific patterns

[past ginkgo]

Because all different with the mechs + G4 is CoS territory anyway i dont even bother

[wintry depot]

theres like 4 charm patterns

[vapid bluff]

hm, maybe i can find a prog party next week

[cursive ruin]

only miss the sun when it starts to snow

[vapid bluff]

or ill find someone offering free busses to mokokos

[storm bronze]

Net is chatgpt

[vapid bluff]

[fervent ibex]

this tbh ^ Thaemine G3 was "hard" in the sense that you had a lot of personal responsibility, if you died, it was most likely your fault and not cuz of your stupid team

Echidna's the opposite lmao

your stupid team is what makes it hard

[past ginkgo]

How many characters you have for Echidna?

[vapid bluff]

2

but my souleater is

rat

[past ginkgo]

Just do normal tbh

It's 6k gold difference lol

[wise pasture]

true i get killed more by my team than the boss or charm

[vapid bluff]

at that point i might as well just do ivory tower

its more gold

[past ginkgo]

And HM is bigger jailge

[wintry depot]

i wouldnt do normal echidna,

msot people doing nm are absolute monkeys

and you will prob get jailed

[wise pasture]

reflux sorcs still win in TTK on echydna 😄

[vapid bluff]

Whats even the point of nm echidna when hm ivory is easier and gives more gold

[storm bronze]

T4

[wintry depot]

t4 mats

[fervent ibex]

yeah learning Echidna in pugs was such a pain, cuz I knew I was doing well, I lived until the end of every wipe/reset, but finding people who also just stayed fucking alive was hard lol

[storm bronze]

And boobs

[past ginkgo]

It doesn't give more gold

HM Ivory is 13k

NM Echidna is 16k

[thick spruce]

so doing chaos dungeon on ignite server is useless if I already reached 1620 right ?

[cursive ruin]

balls

[past ginkgo]

HM Echidna is even 19.5k

[storm bronze]

My curr experience

[wise pasture]

facts

[wintry depot]

pretty much

[cursive ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

[wintry depot]

nice ping

[vapid bluff]

oh i was looking at thaemine

oops

[analog path]

this is why everyone should just become rat

we can turn lost ark into new york city

[past ginkgo]

HM Thaemine is 20k + 21k if you can do G4

Which you can't because CoS

Or you got static

[vapid bluff]

I was looking at normal mode thaemine vs hm ivory

[analog path]

what is CoS

[wintry depot]

can always prog g4, thsoe still exists

[vapid bluff]

its the same gold

[wintry depot]

g4 5 clears

[past ginkgo]

Conqueror Of Stars

[storm bronze]

X5 g4

[analog path]

title?

[fervent ibex]

there's hella prog parties now for G4 thaemine since T4 came out, you can find a party to learn it very easily

[vapid bluff]

Idk, g4 looks like

very hard

[past ginkgo]

You wanna go through 5x prog? yeah at that point

[vapid bluff]

Also Id imagine they are gutting the gold value of it for loan

[past ginkgo]

Time to gold, not worth

[wise pasture]

it takes a while unless you have incredible memory for patterns

[vapid bluff]

21k for thaemine g4 is not surviving loan

[past ginkgo]

Ofc not, koreans sweep through it

[storm bronze]

G4 is for the funzi unless you have static

[past ginkgo]

They gonna nerf it hard

[fervent ibex]

You might have to play a bit of lobby sim, but you can get into a reclear party with the green Legion Cmdr title after your initial prog/clear

[wise pasture]

some take it ye

[vapid bluff]

its insane that hm ice brel gives 30.5k

[wise pasture]

it is certainly viable with it

[vapid bluff]

thats so much go;ld

[wise pasture]

they hard 1-4 is 41,5k or so

[vapid bluff]

yeah but its every 2 weeks

[past ginkgo]

I dont think so because I'm not even through 1-3 yet

[fervent ibex]

LMFAO yeah well that would be an issue.

[past ginkgo]

And I won't do that, because I waste everyone's time.

[fervent ibex]

That's no reason not to raid

this entire games a waste of time LMAO

[past ginkgo]

NM and HM has differences, there is the problem

[wise pasture]

as long as you have fun and dont mind doing prog for a while it is ok

[past ginkgo]

Who cares if you got NM experience and do deathless

Then you go HM and you get sweeped in a second.

[storm bronze]

Not that much

[vapid bluff]

im ngl

nm and hm thaemine are nearly identical

[wise pasture]

funny enough, i only got my deathless thea nm on ignite which doesnt count 😄 so i have hm only

[fervent ibex]

they're pretty much the same, every gate has like 1 to 3 extra patterns at best

[wise pasture]

it is the irony of situation

[vapid bluff]

g1 is basically the exact same minus the ropes have a special mechanic thats not hard at all
I didnt even notice a difference in g2

minus that dragon at the very start

and g3 it just gives him pacman

[wise pasture]

there isnt anything in g2

[fervent ibex]

nah there is

[vapid bluff]

g2 adds the dragon in first phase

[wintry depot]

g2 breaks the platform at x155

[wise pasture]

pacman + pacman rotation and more red lines

[past ginkgo]

g2 breaks the platform in half l0l

[wintry depot]

and the pattern that you go under the boss at the end

thats all

[fervent ibex]

g2 he spawns the dragon as a random pattern, and he also breaks half the map to start

[storm bronze]

Dragon flight in last phase

[wise pasture]

true, forgot it even exists, that is how little it does

actually, tehre is arena break, for what it is worth for the 15s it is in there

[fervent ibex]

no, he spawns a small dragon to do the blue attack as a normal pattern

its not a mech, just another normal pattern

hm specific

[cursive ruin]

holy moily we actually failed argeos

that's new

[wise pasture]

I dont even understand why they added that, it is easies than any nm mech...

[storm bronze]

Sex

[wintry depot]

g3 is pacman, more swords, reverse upside down typing test and the ghosts at the end, but thats it

[wise pasture]

who was it before that said it is unfailable?

[wintry depot]

ah and the dark seed

[fervent ibex]

dark seed?

[wintry depot]

the blue aoe

that you go away

to not knock other people

[fervent ibex]

🤔

[storm bronze]

Albion and safe spot

[fervent ibex]

oh during albion

[wintry depot]

ye

[past ginkgo]

There look, isn't that shit a red pattern

[wintry depot]

albion and the 2 safe spots

[wise pasture]

225 and 55 one person gets explosion blue ring

[fervent ibex]

yeye

[wise pasture]

also albion

[past ginkgo]

Outside safe, inside safe

[fervent ibex]

thats pacman yeah

[past ginkgo]

I never seen that once in NM

[fervent ibex]

yeah its HM specific

[wintry depot]

pacman is front in or front out

[wise pasture]

hm only

[analog path]

pacman?

package manager?

[storm bronze]

Arch enjoyer

[wise pasture]

pacmans are easy if you pay attention, until he does the rotation one in darkness as first

half the raid flips over commonly at that one

[fervent ibex]

yeah its very noticeable and very different from the other 3 red patterns

he crackles with lightning

[vapid bluff]

I always die to invisible pacman

[wintry depot]

i just ts pacman in darkness

[vapid bluff]

im too stupid

[cursive ruin]

idk people that were never matched witrh subhumans

supless, 2 people on orb, third permadead, fourth on the ground from failing block

[storm bronze]

[cursive ruin]

wipe

[wintry depot]

ye even with low graphics you can see that

[vapid bluff]

Actually the whole full gauge red is something I just follow one person on, i literally cant tell the pattern

[wise pasture]

F

[fervent ibex]

you learn the patterns just watching his sword

[analog path]

don't you just shred thymine g4 when you have tier 4 though

[fervent ibex]

his swords the important give away

[storm bronze]

Gotta look his sword

[past ginkgo]

Oh look i go into HM first time

[wise pasture]

pacman look at his feet, rest look at how he holds his sword

[past ginkgo]

Pacman comes

And I am dead

[vapid bluff]

well like i know what the tell is but i cant register it fast enough

[wintry depot]

yes

[vapid bluff]

to know the safe spot

[vapid bluff]

ill learn it over time ig

[analog path]

i can hear the pacman wa o wa o wa o

[fervent ibex]

honestly just take TS in g3 if ur not confident in literally anything, just about all his 1 shots can be TS'd

[wise pasture]

that just needs more experience with it, gonna come sooner or later

[vapid bluff]

I always take ts

[fervent ibex]

zz i take atros now

[vapid bluff]

i dont trust myself to not ts if i get seed for albion

[wintry depot]

just ts when you see the sword with electricity

[storm bronze]

The sword pattern I don't like is the double red square i always forget it

[wintry depot]

rest you can just follow people

i find pacman faster than the other moves

[fervent ibex]

yeah actually learning albion was a pain, but you start to see the patterns before they even finish eventually. i used to just rely on walking next to someone until I had to do HM

[wintry depot]

i still dont know albion patterns and i did thaemine 100+times

[storm bronze]

[wintry depot]

just never bothered learning them

[storm bronze]

Where do you go with seed for inside

[vapid bluff]

do people just wear whatever they want for ancients to get the ark passive points

this cant be good for gunslinger

[wise pasture]

i still have funny memory on cubes, when we first progged it, 1670 or so blue GL joined. on one of the cubes he was walking in there and went from full to zero(370k hp or so) it was so funny

[wintry depot]

i just follow people and if i have seed, i just ts somewhere

[analog path]

they should do albion pattern but with 8 times instead

[fervent ibex]

you only need to know like the one that takes you in a half-circle around the map, the other 3 are very easy to safespot for seed

[wintry depot]

yea

[wise pasture]

just like splut

dude was flat

was hilarious

[wise pasture]

most of them

[storm bronze]

Lots of gl/destro died to this in prog

[vapid bluff]

i dont think im ever hitting 1660

this tap cost is vile

[fervent ibex]

until brel comes out, most people are just wearing like 1 purple useable line, and the rest trash lines

and even then, thats gonna run u like 30k per piece if u buy them off market

[analog path]

holy bovine that thing cost 1620 per tap

[storm bronze]

1620 gold that's ez

[vapid bluff]

its more the reds

[past ginkgo]

Even the sword has additional patterns...

[vapid bluff]

that is disgusting

[past ginkgo]

[wintry depot]

speak for yourself

[storm bronze]

Red mats aren't even up

Yet

[fervent ibex]

RMT sp0tt3d

[storm bronze]

Still waiting to sell them

[wintry depot]

its relic, costed me 30k

[vapid bluff]

its still 3,250 gold

in red matts a tap

[wintry depot]

ancient version was 225k tho

[wise pasture]

I sold double purple like that today for 55k 😄

[analog path]

how bad are the oreha mats though

[fervent ibex]

zz sounds about right, i hit a legendary crit chance + blue crit damage ring on relic the other day

[analog path]

or whatever they are called now

[fervent ibex]

like 50k as relic, coulda been like 400k if ancient

[storm bronze]

I'm still tempted to buy duds to unlock some ap points

[fervent ibex]

thats pretty much the idea until brel comes out lol

just buy duds to unlock ur tier4 AP lines

[wintry depot]

im getting ark passive on my bard next week and i dont really have good stats, i just cut whatever

[wise pasture]

ech 1 ancient good enough for my pala until brel, not like it does almost anything for him

[storm bronze]

Okok

[wintry depot]

i have ally atk on one ring, ally ap on the other one and brand on necklace

already better than most supports i saw

[fervent ibex]

I tested Ark Passive in trixion, to simulate enough points for 3 Aegir pieces, and its still weaker than my 5x3+2 lol

[storm bronze]

Too bad that shit is expensive

[fervent ibex]

but in full relic*

cuz im not 1680 yet

[storm bronze]

Ap is so much better than t3

[wise pasture]

my accesory be like, all self made btw

[wintry depot]

depends the class

asura needs like 4 pieces

[fervent ibex]

yeah im entropy and my T3 build has +2 lol

[cursive ruin]

what if chaos gate was called "futa gate"

[vapid bluff]

Bro why cant you use bound gold as a deposit

[wintry depot]

because his ark passive was nerfed

[vapid bluff]

that makes 0 sense

Why do bots ruin fucking everything

[fervent ibex]

its gonna need like 4 or 5 Aegir pieces to be better than my T3 setup, or i just need to hit 1680 and use ancient accessories with 3 aegir pieces

[wintry depot]

just go 1680 lol

[cursive ruin]

cuz we don't live in a perfect world

we'd have unbound una too

[wise pasture]

I wish

[vapid bluff]

botters deserve the chair

[fervent ibex]

im fixing my rats before going 1680 on main, i dont mind being patient, considering Aegir HM is still a bit of a piss-fest

[wise pasture]

it is quite ok if people are actually reclear and have some gear

[storm bronze]

Brel in December tho

[fervent ibex]

I meant g0

Aegir g0 HM

pissfest

[wise pasture]

didnt have much issue with it

[fervent ibex]

must be nice zz

[wise pasture]

average clear is within 2 tries max so far

[fervent ibex]

you know g0 means Party Finder, yeah? LOL

[wise pasture]

I think we had once 3rd if I count failed g on firstmech

[fervent ibex]

im talking about the piss fest in the party finder

[wise pasture]

ah

as a sup np there, but I know what you mean

[storm bronze]

[fervent ibex]

yeah i dont mind being patient with getting to 1680, since im just missing out on party finder simulator

[wintry depot]

in my prog lobby, there was more problems in the first mech than g0 xD

g0 was one shot xd

[storm bronze]

The spinning wheels ?

[wintry depot]

yteah

i have problems aiming it

[wise pasture]

hamster wheels

[wintry depot]

sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt

[storm bronze]

That shit looks I for sure will aim it bad

[cursive ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-twerks-twerk-dogs-twerking-gif-22915555

[wintry depot]

i got ark passive this week tho so next week we should be zooming

[wise pasture]

it takes your character centre of mass towards the object, not the way you hit it as far as i saw

[wintry depot]

+lvl 7 dmg gems

[wise pasture]

that is what was a bit odd at start for me

[storm bronze]

I forgot to add music back last week

Wanted to hear Interstellar

[cursive ruin]

can anyone here speak enochian

[wise pasture]

what the hell is that ?

[wintry depot]

angels language

Enochian (/ɪˈnoʊkiən/ ə-NOH-kee-ən) is an occult constructed language[3]—said by its originators to have been received from angels—recorded in the private journals of John Dee and his colleague Edward Kelley in late 16th-century England.[4] Kelley was a scryer who worked with Dee in his magical investigations. The language is integral to the practice of Enochian magic.

[storm bronze]

[vapid bluff]

do yall think theres a likelihood that they will nerf advanced honing costs in t4 for LoAn

[torn maple]

Not sure 🤔 but I’m hoping so

I need a reason to spend my gold rn

[wintry depot]

give it to me

[torn maple]

It’s probably the only thing I’m looking forward too if they do reduce adv honing

If we get another express I’m making a sup

[cursive ruin]

what are the odds delivery gives me my food when i'm in chaos gate

[fervent ibex]

go into LOA ON with no expectations lmao the last year and a half of LOA ONs have been fumbles that required follow-up streams

[torn maple]

💀

[wintry depot]

i just hope its not a new support class, i dont want to do trans again on a new char

[fervent ibex]

just go into LOA ON expecting the bare minimum, a new class, a new shitty progression system, and an island nobody asked for

also Korean FireSale and coupon [for Korean region only]

[torn maple]

What if express event is like ignite again where we get the trans 45 but instead it’ll be 60

[vapid bluff]

specialist number 3

[wintry depot]

anything except supp

[vapid bluff]

give me my female sharpshooter

[cursive ruin]

uhuh

[vapid bluff]

:(

[torn maple]

What if it’s a male ayaya sorc

[vapid bluff]

ew

[torn maple]

[fervent ibex]

the real LOA ON copium would be if they just nerfed every T3 progression system into the ground, just made everything super free and not require a fucking 3rd party AI calculator

[cursive ruin]

male aya-

[vapid bluff]

how many lolis do you see are male

[cursive ruin]

what?

what is this konosuba shit

[torn maple]

^

Or C9 sneaky energy

[vapid bluff]

Oh its called shota

[torn maple]

Just cosplay bro

[vapid bluff]

not loli

[uncut stratus]

I’m gonna explosion magic your house

[torn maple]

😂

[cursive ruin]

i'm gonna burn your family t ree

[stark thicket]

[uncut stratus]

You like futa you can burn shit

Go get pegged

[past ginkgo]

That pacman stuff looks quite heavy at first

[cursive ruin]

with a burning strapon

[past ginkgo]

But I think I could get it down after a few tries

[vapid bluff]

The federal unemployment tax act?

[fervent ibex]

talking about G3 thae?

[uncut stratus]

No the chicks with dicks one

Pac-Man is only bad in full identity

Other than that it’s a joke

[past ginkgo]

Yeah it's just 2 more things to learn i guess

And the clash looks harder too

[fervent ibex]

it probably the most visible pattern of his red one-shot patterns. its the only pattern where he starts crackling with lightning around his feet. the other 3 patterns you have to watch his sword

so its the easiest one to spot lol

[uncut stratus]

You have way more than enough time to dodge

[fervent ibex]

red lightning*

[past ginkgo]

But i think you can practice the clash for hard too i guess?

Looks faster with more keys

[uncut stratus]

Clashes are the same

Feels like it to me

[fervent ibex]

wider key spread

NM is QWER

HM is QWERASDF

[uncut stratus]

Idk I’m an osu player

[fervent ibex]

same timings and osu patterns tho

just more key spread for HM

[past ginkgo]

I played osu too so I picked it up directly at prog when I did normal

[vapid bluff]

ive never seen two asdf keys

[uncut stratus]

Go away

[past ginkgo]

Was never an issue honestly

[vapid bluff]

pop up in hm

[past ginkgo]

I was used to it because of osu xd

[vapid bluff]

it feels like its 90% qwer and like 10% asdf

[fervent ibex]

Hmm typically I only do C3 or C5, and tbh I rarely see ASDF in them. i see ASDF in Echidna pretty often tho

[uncut stratus]

@vapid bluff I opened your profile in pitch dark, my face hurts

[vapid bluff]

its not even that bad

[fickle jungle]

idk I once did the one clash near the end where you have to be behind him and the buttons threw me off guard

[uncut stratus]

It’s bright

[past ginkgo]

But everything else looks the same, I hate that bomb shit though

[stark thicket]

why

[fervent ibex]

bomb shit?

[fickle jungle]

like it's one easy hit, then like a ba-ba-ba--ba-ba-ba patern

[past ginkgo]

Especially on x275

[uncut stratus]

U got rid of all my friends

[fickle jungle]

but all the buttons were different for me when I thought it'd be like the same button for the 6hit

[past ginkgo]

Basically need to remember all of them and if I have bomb stay away from others

On a different spot

[fervent ibex]

oh the blue circle?

[past ginkgo]

Yeah it's additional

To all the mech

[fervent ibex]

yeye you only really need to learn the half-circle albion tbh, at least imo

[past ginkgo]

Easy for the wipe slash, but it looks cancer on x275 though

[fervent ibex]

everything else has a pretty easy safespot for blue circle

[midnight marlin]

clashes arent osu

its project diva

[fervent ibex]

project whatnow

[uncut stratus]

Just because ur bad at osu doesn’t mean you have to take it out on us

[past ginkgo]

No I think what he means is the timing you hit the circles

[midnight marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-project-diva-hatsune-miku-megurine-luka-worlds-end-dancehall-gif-24276840

[past ginkgo]

That's identical

You also got perfect, x100, x50 points

[fervent ibex]

holy unnecessary arrows

wtf is that shit

[past ginkgo]

In the clash case, hitting a x50 will most likely kill you since it's bad

On break stage, you kill most of the people xd

[fervent ibex]

thats probably why stage break clashes are the easiest

super slow, 2 buttons

[fickle jungle]

I found this, is this accurate?

[past ginkgo]

Yeh

Wasn't TFM different though on break?

More keys?

[fervent ibex]

yeah its accurate, you can practice them in Trixion

[past ginkgo]

Oh the trixion thing puts you straight into hard

[fervent ibex]

idk tbh, TFM was mostly just G4 zz

i dont even remember TFM G3

[stark thicket]

fuck yo friends

[midnight marlin]

https://lostark.nexus/clash

[uncut stratus]

Fuck you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1035535134457335889/1306154012675936266/ticket.gif

[storm bronze]

[low nebula]

[past ginkgo]

Seems like 2 and 5 are the hardest ones tbh

1,3,4 is simple

[stark thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/898542214144204812/1288611448154488842/IMG_6611.gif

[fickle jungle]

yeah 5 threw me off when I did it

[past ginkgo]

2 and 5 has like 5 keys

1 was simple 3 keys

[fickle jungle]

I panicked and did it cuz no one else was near it and we were almost done and I thought we would wipe

[past ginkgo]

I always did like 1,3,4 mostly because on normal we skipped 2

And 5 was always done by someone else

On NM we also skipped 4 often

[fickle jungle]

I was legit shaking cuz it also happened to be the first time I'd ever made it that far in the fight alive

[low nebula]

ive spend like 5 hours in trixion

practicing, cos i could barely not die to it when its started

[fickle jungle]

I tried out each one in trixion like one or two times. but actually doing it in the heat of the moment was way more stressful I feel

[storm bronze]

I'll sleep on the couch

[past ginkgo]

Idk how much people skip in HM though

Since horse shield has double the HP

[low nebula]

right now, skip 23 sometimes 4 and fail 5

[past ginkgo]

5 is hard, i tried that LOL

[low nebula]

usually when its time for 4 one or two ppl dead

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lying-cat-paws-paws-cat-chilling-cute-cat-gif-25282206

[fickle jungle]

actually, does missing clash 5 do anything?

[low nebula]

i didnt have all alive to basement for long long time

[past ginkgo]

On NM, no

[low nebula]

you lose dps window

[past ginkgo]

But you miss out on DPS time

Idk if HM straight up kills you

[fickle jungle]

oh so I freaked out for nothign

[low nebula]

you cleared?

[fickle jungle]

when it happened in hm, I was only one who was behind him

[turbid oriole]

i play the game with party effects on

[low nebula]

also if you 1640+ normal is free

[past ginkgo]

Yeh normal is pretty easy

[low nebula]

[past ginkgo]

Most of the time it takes longer is people dying again and again to the same patterns

[cursive ruin]

turn around and pop it for a player

[fickle jungle]

I had to turn off party effects just so I could see thae patterns better 😦

[low nebula]

yea hard mode albion prog

[past ginkgo]

And they always die between x210 to x90

[fickle jungle]

like, idk what class it is but sometimes this big ghost thing would get in the way of my screen

[rigid aurora]

yooo

[fickle jungle]

and I always hated it

[past ginkgo]

the red pattern in x275?

Where it slashes all the way?

[low nebula]

yea

[past ginkgo]

I mean you could TS that right?

[low nebula]

on hard its two taps everyone

and they all feel too good to ts

[turbid oriole]

i cant tell if this is vr

or irl

[rigid aurora]

irl

[past ginkgo]

I usually take TS anyways even on normal

[turbid oriole]

yuzu gonna go blind

[rigid aurora]

it be unloaded

[past ginkgo]

Because sometimes I got fucked by placing a shadow mark, walk back in not seeing pattern

[rigid aurora]

ima shoot my sibling later

[past ginkgo]

That stuff killed me atleast 5x

[low nebula]

i didnt learn shadow mark patterns

[turbid oriole]

bro has three in the chamber

[rigid aurora]

that's just for the slide to come back

[low nebula]

so i just follow and ts

[turbid oriole]

ohhh

[rigid aurora]

actual loading you put inside

[past ginkgo]

Nah it's normal patterns, but you have to move to the edge, when you come back you don't always see his normal pattern

[turbid oriole]

wait

wtf

it can cycle?

[rigid aurora]

yeah

[turbid oriole]

[rigid aurora]

got a working mag too

[fickle jungle]

honestly, I just follow others for albion. and if they got the black circle I ts lol

[turbid oriole]

yuzu gonna get shot by the popo

[past ginkgo]

I ran into a teleporting sword one time because of it LOL

And obviously that was on x210

I might try HM though, who knows

It's 7k gold more...

Not like I find any party to do G4

[uncut stratus]

Not if I find him first

[fickle jungle]

dw they exist! well, at least on nae they did

[past ginkgo]

Curious how Echidna HM is different

Other than the last phase in basement

And clashes ofc

I know the mirror stagger is different, i seen that already

So are the mirror counters

[fickle jungle]

there was someone who ran thae g4 prog parties for newbies. like, they'd always keep one character able to run g4 just to host prog parties

[past ginkgo]

Oh and fake counters..

[fervent ibex]

big-mommy fake counter and 0x phase

also i think clash in big-mommy phase only has 1 button in NM (?)

has 2 in HM

[past ginkgo]

One assigned button yes

But multiple circle

[turbid oriole]

backshots?

[modest marlin]

Anyone can send me server invite for NAE bus?

[fervent ibex]

oh nvm it broke

oh i just typed it wrong tbh

oh it dont matter actually, seems like the invites are stalled rn

not sure why

[cursive ruin]

i got an add from a yiffmaster

[turbid oriole]

weird

why r u adding urself

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/8doubloons-cat-stretching-cat-stretch-orange-cat-stretching-cat-stretching-gif-gif-23999426

[analog path]

bruh my brother said there's a guy upstairs and i was about to grab a knife, and then he said upstairs front door

[cursive ruin]

dead game

[analog path]

dead game

[wintry depot]

me too

[turbid oriole]

dead chatr

dead chat

dead game

[fickle jungle]

you guys do cube with other people :0

[wintry depot]

yes

[fickle jungle]

looks like a dps to me

[cursive ruin]

oh i know what to do

i'll get purple wealth on alt

[fickle jungle]

[wintry depot]

na dps artist sucks

[cursive ruin]

dps artist is so bald i bought a bus so i don't kill myself

chat

what drink satifies your craving for battery acid?

[fickle jungle]

pickle juice

[turbid oriole]

pilk

[cursive ruin]

i think monster zero ultra does it for me

never drinking that piece of shit again

hope i can recover from that aftertaste

[cursive ruin]

oh pickle milk

i thought it was pepsi milk

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-throw-up-puke-vomit-gagging-gif-16080834

[cursive ruin]

it looks like chocolate milk so it fills me with happy thoughts

i feel like the taste would be highly offensive

like so bad your body would think you're poisoned

[swift lava]

what the fuck

i love pickles but no

[cursive ruin]

aooough

[fickle jungle]

is that south vern?

[wintry depot]

looks like svern yes

i can see the oysters

[fickle jungle]

[cursive ruin]

ok well time to look up the tome guide

[wintry depot]

i have more yorn ptsd

than oysters

[fickle jungle]

the vistas and monsters should be enough I'd imagine

[vapid bluff]

the meat?

fuck the meat

[wintry depot]

meat and mushrooms

[cursive ruin]

if you say so

[vapid bluff]

And then that punika

one

[fickle jungle]

bloody fist is the one that'll haunt me

[obtuse oyster]

punika is easy

[wintry depot]

eh, im not traumatized by punika

[vapid bluff]

Pre nerf

was not easy at all

[fickle jungle]

more like bloody finger

[obtuse oyster]

the beer on s.vern can smd

[vapid bluff]

it took like 10 hours

[obtuse oyster]

not even

[vapid bluff]

Idr which one it was

[obtuse oyster]

the only thing that I got jailed on was the lobster from Moake

[wintry depot]

yorn mushrooms took me days

[vapid bluff]

I just remember vividly, killing a monkey rotation

[obtuse oyster]

everything else was easy

[vapid bluff]

and the fucking monkeys had like

the woirst spawns

[fickle jungle]

SAME

I know what you mean

[obtuse oyster]

that was banana, it was easy

[wintry depot]

yea

[vapid bluff]

yall are high

[obtuse oyster]

you just party up with someone and they do one rotation and you do the other

[vapid bluff]

ok but I didnt party up

I did solo everything

[fickle jungle]

neither did I

[obtuse oyster]

skill issue

[vapid bluff]

yorn is the one place I will never touch the cooking for

[wintry depot]

it was nerfed

still dogshit

[cursive ruin]

ok i literally need like 20% adventure tome and it's already a struggle

[obtuse oyster]

they also give you some of the free food from tour

[cursive ruin]

my game is perma stuck loading

[wintry depot]

yorn can suck my toes

[obtuse oyster]

okay, miss gamer I see you

[vapid bluff]

i havent dabbeled in anything past punika

[fickle jungle]

wouldn't vistas and monsters be enough?

[cursive ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-kiss-forehead-kiss-fishes-tiktok-gif-4788167688444183421

[cursive ruin]

yeah but i can't do that if my game crashes in loading screen

[vapid bluff]

Also apparently this elgacia collectibvle is rare as fuck

cause it costs an arm and a leg on the market

[wintry depot]

im missing one sinc emonths, im too lazy

its just because bots doesnt farm it

[vapid bluff]

like wtf is that man

[wintry depot]

i bought it back then for like 10k each

[cursive ruin]

nineveh bathwater

[analog path]

this is so cursed, i don't think my brain is going to forget this, and its going to annoy me until i forget it

[celest tiger]

i sold one a while back but haven't had the heart to farm them again

[wintry depot]

on eu rn

only nae has fucked up prices

[analog path]

how many do you need for tome

[cursive ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-kissing-kissed-kisser-fish-gif-24921298

[wintry depot]

3

[vapid bluff]

Just 1 no?

HWAT

[analog path]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[vapid bluff]

DSAKLJGAS

[fickle jungle]

when I left I had all but rowen maxed. and I left before elgacia came out. which sucks cuz that elgacia collectible costs some organs

[vapid bluff]

U NEED 3

[analog path]

so
around 25k gold

you literally
are better off farming it

[vapid bluff]

is there even a point

in getting ignea tokens

[analog path]

considering the fact that there probably is mob based drop food to farm too

[obtuse oyster]

past the skill point, not really

[wintry depot]

its 25k gold, you do 1 thaemine 1-3 and youre almost done with it

[wintry depot]

its nothing

[fickle jungle]

yeah I just needa get my 3... eventually

[obtuse oyster]

I rather not

omega scam

[vapid bluff]

i just want the bifrost key

[wintry depot]

well nae has fucked up price

[celest tiger]

i need to get back to it soon