lost-ark-discussions

[bitter lichen]

and where would i find this coveted alchemist

[vague stirrup]

Teaching people to spend damage skills to pass a mech is a matter of one wipe at best
Teaching people to get a proper build and be proper dps goblins is a matter of hundreds of hours for some

[midnight marlin]

major cities

[lucid fractal]

Teaching people to spend damage skills to pass a mech is a matter of one wipe at best
Teaching people to get a proper build and be proper dps goblins is a matter of hundreds of hours for some

[queen grail]

This is just an example of game awareness, has nothing at all to do with meter.

[cunning mesa]

whatever we are talking about, fayten is right

[queen grail]

[lucid fractal]

Objection!

[wicked blade]

Alysandra, biggest meter defender

[fresh flint]

gay sex

[charred void]

it looks bad on meter, i didnt buff, my buffuptime shit

therefore, im trash

[lucid fractal]

This can't be right, right?

[charred void]

replace with 99,99,99,99 bard without shield skills on bar

[dawn yacht]

@midnight marlin dl unplayable 1 match and my game crashed 23 times

[vague stirrup]

you're trash if you're hitting like 40/40/10

[wicked blade]

Meter is bad and create toxic env

[vague stirrup]

which is uh

[wicked blade]

End of story

[vague stirrup]

pretty hard to pull off

[queen grail]

I love how you just completely ignores the point of.

[midnight marlin]

happens

[bitter lichen]

[vague stirrup]

Game is toxic as fuck by design and lack of meter guts your personal development*

[lucid fractal]

should I kt new created db 🤓

[wicked blade]

I like how u guys think that meter has anything to do with your personal development

[toxic tinsel]

1mil to level gl

[wicked blade]

U can develop personally on other ways

[charred void]

if you know how to use that information - absolutely NOBODY knows(besides the 3digit iq raidleaders, NOT FROM lost ark) how to use that "knowledge" you can get from that 3rd party tool/website

[lucid fractal]

oh hell naw

[wicked blade]

People are just lazy

[lucid fractal]

if you know how to use that information - absolutely NOBODY knows(besides the 3digit iq raidleaders, NOT FROM lost ark) how to use that "knowledge" you can get from that 3rd party tool/website

[crisp token]

Wud dis affect ping?

[wicked blade]

No, it will not

[vague stirrup]

I think if I have issues with uptime on whatever or lack dps, but I think I have no issues, I'll never ever understand that without meter
Cause I get my mvps so I must be good right?

[queen grail]

That's just your way of thinking and you hate anyone and everyone so your opinion on this matter is kinda irrelevant to be frank.

[fresh flint]

idc what any of u hillbillies say i use it, gonna keep using it, suck me off

[charred void]

great argument, thanks aly

[charred void]

glad your gameplay improved by alot thanks to meter

[queen grail]

I mean, It's just as good of an argument as you calling anyone and everyone 3 IQ idiots that can't use a meter.

[queen grail]

What meter? I don't have one.

[dawn yacht]

yeah after 178 matches and only after todays patch

[wicked blade]

@charred void I will actually do something about meter just because Aly pissed me off

[charred void]

thanks man

[wicked blade]

Give me a week and it will not be working

[tulip charm]

just my own stance on it, i think meter should exist, for people that wanna use it to improve why should you stop them?
but when people do stupid sht like holding skills and other dumb stuff they need to get called out on it

[queen grail]

You won't do shit.

And we all know it.

[kind lotus]

High hopes for better encryption next patch

[fresh flint]

then itll work again in weeks time

[still lintel]

@ancient tundra we back with the brainrot @urban obsidian

[wicked blade]

Bet, challenge accepted

[queen grail]

Random Discord

[lime dove]

wait whos Hanaebi

name seems familiar

[kind lotus]

My dad

[fresh flint]

Imagine being so against a harmless dps meter

[vague stirrup]

it's still easier to call out dumb people who just hold skills
than teach people on how to dps

[fresh flint]

i dont get it personally

[queen grail]

Ok random whateverness, go cry to SG, I'm not even using meter so I don't really care much whatever happens, I still know It's a good tool

[charred void]

good for what

[kind lotus]

Would be a great tool if anyone used it for general improvement

[wicked blade]

Good for what?

Other games can function without meter

But LA can't

lmfao

[bitter lichen]

wait whats happening

[queen grail]

Legit said that 10 times, if you're not going to read or even try to see an argument and think about it, why are we talking about it?

[lucid fractal]

I think meter is not bad, it can help people acknowledge their mistakes and give them information about their performance so they could improve it with a way or another, toxic people will always be there anyways and especially in end-game raids they just want a 1min clear with zero fails or mistakes

[kind lotus]

But people just use it to inflate ego and shit on people instead of trying to reach out to them

[fervent ibex]

I feel like most games MMOs have a meter at this point

[fresh flint]

idk people are just bitching about meter existing for no reason

[wicked blade]

THIS

[queen grail]

Most games with a raiding scene like Lost Ark has meter.

[ancient tundra]

it was automuted my savior discord

[wicked blade]

Exactly that

[fresh flint]

they do but dont say that...meter taboo. meter bad ungabunga

[charred void]

what "raiding scene" lost ark has 3-7 semi npcs joining your raids

[still lintel]

wdf

[charred void]

its not 20 or 40 people

[fervent ibex]

FFXIV, GW2, WoW, and even TnL is making one

[bitter lichen]

only ff doesnt bave widespread meter but ppl still log it

[fresh flint]

yup b ut alas, room full of clownges

[toxic tinsel]

ffxiv meter so goated fflogs is such a great website

[wicked blade]

Exactly what he said above. DPS meter in LA is garbage because community is toxic as shit

[vague stirrup]

this argument gives me same vibes as argument about winrate regarding some random matchmaking pvp modes
"hey it doesn't matter you get 11 more people in your team your wr is basically random and it doesn't matter im 40% and youre 60%"
fuck yes it matters

[lucid fractal]

Gw2 has a built in meter though?

[charred void]

lost ark raiding you smash your head against the raid and press emote at the end of the raid or press quit after 1 wipe

[lucid fractal]

man gw2 is insane cash grab

[tulip charm]

1min clear with zero fails or mistakes is the IDEAL scenario
what happens sometimes instead is you get breakers that do 500mil dps in the first minute of the raid with 90% chance of being dead for the entire raid
people holding skills failing stagger checks, making raids last way longer

[bitter lichen]

indeed

[fervent ibex]

erm I thought we were cool bruh

[tulip charm]

thats why i said this is too close to call, it goes both ways

[bitter lichen]

Especially the emote part

[queen grail]

Just because you're some savant when it comes to raiding that instantly learn it and know how to do them don't mean others are, raids in lost ark (at least on hard) are objectively challenging and that's what I'm talking about, other games with hard raids like Wildstar, WoW all uses meter for feedback on how to improve their own gameplay.

[wicked blade]

U all using

[midnight marlin]

dont share that

[bitter lichen]

[queen grail]

I love how everyone is talking about "Toxic community" also, while being, toxic about a dps meter, where the start of the conversation was "I'd love to use it for personal use".

[fresh flint]

[fervent ibex]

nah im using the paid one, go report it

[queen grail]

Posting dps meter? Ban him.

[vague stirrup]

yeah but you're not allowed to mention meter here

[toxic tinsel]

500mil in the first min is 50mil in 10mins and 25mil in 20. That's enough to clear most raids in the game currently

[queen grail]

Imagine posting image of it, smh smh.

[wicked blade]

Oh so it is that one

[charred void]

literally nobody uses it for "personal use", first you hear is: my support is shit

[wicked blade]

Thanks for info

[bitter lichen]

[wicked blade]

Time too look at the code

[queen grail]

Lots of people I raid with, use it for personal use,

[fresh flint]

ok

go then

[stark thicket]

Bible no longer works right?

[fresh flint]

[bitter lichen]

let us know if u find a keylogger or some shid

[fresh flint]

it does

[queen grail]

How would I know?

[charred void]

and they cant raid without it?

[wicked blade]

No, but I can put one in there

[tulip charm]

it works
i think it only dosn't work the first day of reset

[wicked blade]

Fun

[bitter lichen]

[stark thicket]

Reverse engineer it

[ancient tundra]

@fresh flint thks for carry bro

[fervent ibex]

its open source LOL

nothing to reverse egineer

[wicked blade]

It is open source bruv

[fresh flint]

he's going to develop an encryption for it that ags literally wont even read

[vague stirrup]

except you have plethora of situations in which you want to go all out on the boss, and in which you might want to hold.
like g3 brel you can skip second stagger, g3 thae you break the shield before the end of the first clash or otherwise you wipe (wiped when it was a meaningful dps check), and it doesn't really matter even if you solo'd 300-212

[wicked blade]

Not sending to AGS

[stark thicket]

Is it just grabbing the data now before encrypting?

[wicked blade]

It goes directly to SG

[queen grail]

No, they explode and die irl if they don't use it? Fuck you think?

I've never said they can't, I'm saying they like to use it for personal use to push their own number's and to improve their own game-play, I get that YOU don't feel the need for it, and that's cool, but I don't get why you have to be so gung-ho hate on people that do.

[fresh flint]

same situation

they wont care

[wicked blade]

I ain't sending from personal email

lol

[queen grail]

And they will send back, 어쨌든요.

[toxic tinsel]

ye but I'm saying if you do 500m first min then youve done more than enough for the whole raid if you die presuming that the other members can carry the mechs

[stark thicket]

I need to revamp my website

[nova garden]

What in the hell?

[charred void]

glad they use it for their personal use, just like everyone else when you join pugs

[kind lotus]

@toxic tinsel

[fresh flint]

oh my bad, ur sending it from ur top secret email

[fervent ibex]

so why's he so upset that meter exists?

im kinda just coming in and out of chat

[dawn yacht]

[fresh flint]

some ppl r more fruity than I

[midnight marlin]

ken what is that pfp

jesus

[nova garden]

It’s beautiful

[tulip charm]

funfact when behemoth first came out 1 person thought "if i hold my atro and skills for the head i will be top dps meter"
11 other dps players thought the exact same thing

[still lintel]

[toxic tinsel]

@kind lotus

[still lintel]

wtf you watching/reading

[wicked blade]

Cuz they all coping that meter is good, I agree if it was used as intended. In LA it is used to inflate ego and shit on everyone else how they are bad. So just remove it

[queen grail]

I've almost never ever seen anyone that shit talks or act toxic due to meter.

There are some, ofc, but they are the small outliers,

[tulip charm]

surely everybody else will use all their skills to break the wings so i can atro the head instead

[vague stirrup]

[still lintel]

is it the hot grandma one or?

[dawn yacht]

i have it for like hours now bro

[fresh flint]

Literally this. Never....lol....

[queen grail]

My guess? He did Zdps and someone asked him why and now he's on a vengeance trip.

[toxic tinsel]

no see everyone else will attro wing so you can attro head obviously

[fresh flint]

The only place I see ppl flaming ab meter is chuan when hes bitching about someones dps in HERE

weird ass ppl

[toxic tinsel]

so just hold everything for head bcs its guaranteed everyone else breaks wings

[still lintel]

hot grandma

is what it is

[nova garden]

I’m watching a YouTube video thing on an anime

[queen grail]

Yea, like, I don't remember last time I saw someone in raid chat shit talk someone and talking about the scriptures.

[bitter lichen]

man i cant wait another week to transfer ignite

[cunning mesa]

im sorry

[bitter lichen]

imma just do my sorc

[still lintel]

"thing"

[toxic tinsel]

tbf you dont need to worry about attro or hold on wing if you do 300m dps @tulip charm

[queen grail]

Do I hear some complaints on voice? Sure, do they say it to the person? No.

[gleaming pendant]

Who?

[dawn yacht]

threesome with tsunade

[ancient tundra]

wtf are you watching bro

[nova garden]

The algorithm brought it to me

So I shall watch

[fresh flint]

wait...you mean....he's speaking on things that NEVER HAPPENED TO HIM? GASP!

[tulip charm]

it dosn't matter anymore ever since t4 came out, but the first 2 weeks was a absolute dogshit raid because of this

[queen grail]

[nova garden]

I bet @urban obsidian has watched this

[still lintel]

https://tenor.com/mTJS8DGmZS6.gif

[fresh flint]

bros fucking running argos aint no1 gaf about yo dps

[midnight marlin]

fayten: meter creates toxic environment
aly: its a good tool
discussion
raven: imma make an encryption and send it directly to sg, theyll listen to me

[dawn yacht]

fayten: meter creates toxic environment
aly: its a good tool
discussion
raven: imma make an encryption and send it directly to sg, theyll listen to me

[kind lotus]

fayten: meter creates toxic environment
aly: its a good tool
discussion
raven: imma make an encryption and send it directly to sg, theyll listen to me

[midnight marlin]

that was his pfp for a while while it was releasing

[fervent ibex]

There are good apples and bad apples in every community all I can say is stop listening to Setsura

[fervent ibex]

me whenever I raid on my rats

[gleaming pendant]

I mean it does create toxic environment, but it depends how you use it. Clearly Koreans don't know how, seeing how their inven went down.

[queen grail]

Another argument for meter can also be that the MVP system is somewhat flawed, I watched a streamer that was top dmg on his meter, but, due to other factors like, counter / stagger / etc, the total medal points was higher for the others and he didn't even show on family photo.

So, how do you even know if you did high dmg in that situation? Meanwhile, you did top dps.

[bitter lichen]

what gives more gold on ignite solo kaya or solo brel

[tulip charm]

this happens all the time, you see cruel fighters in the photo but the actual mvp is upright
but he did more counters, ect

[bitter lichen]

[charred void]

[fervent ibex]

idk I guess the guy emailing SG personally LOL I just came in here mid convo and saw it

[tulip charm]

i am not even mad, but some people are mad about it?

[gleaming pendant]

But kr also kinda made the Koreans toxic, by making brel raid incredibly dps tight.

How to not scold the zdps when your raid is make or do

By them

[fresh flint]

at the end of the day, all i use it for is to watch the numbers move bc my autis likes it that and i like to see how much dmg people do, and be jealous over them lol

[charred void]

i love useless dps without a counterskill on their skillbar but they did 2% more dmg than the guy using counters

[queen grail]

You don't have to like it, but there are good factors for using it, I don't get why you guys think meter will make anyone and everyone toxic.

I think like 60-70% of the end-raid base already uses it, do you see that much toxicity around it? Because I don't.

[midnight marlin]

kinda with saint on this one, its toxic players that use meter to be toxic, not that meter creates toxic players

if you dont deal damage, tough, just drop out of raid

dont create drama

[fervent ibex]

god i wanna make political commentary on this so bad

damn politics rule

[tulip charm]

thats why i said i am not even mad, if the upright guy did clash, sent counters, did mechs, vs someone that just did dmg the upright guy should mvp, and if the cruel fighter guy says otherwise, fk him

[nova garden]

I fucking knew it

[still lintel]

https://fxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1854560797273227611

[fervent ibex]

clutched up ™️

[still lintel]

"you are at..."

[vague stirrup]

me when it's an mvp fight and we try to steal each fucking counter possible from each other

[queen grail]

Kinda weird to say, lots of classes has counter's in their rotation and hitting a counter is more than just "being skilled" lots of counter moves just comes, so you have to react instantly, so people in-front at that point have a higher chance, unless It's a scripted counter getting counter's is more or less a bit of luck combined with raid knowledge.

[true tartan]

I think nowadays everybody uses counter tho. Even sorc

Since their counter gives them mp

[queen grail]

lol.

[midnight marlin]

i thought they use it in order to lose mp

[charred void]

glad scamgate™ changed that

[midnight marlin]

to get into boundless

[true tartan]

Yea. Honestly. It's a good change for sorc at least

[vague stirrup]

isn't counter a mandatory on anyone's panel? Except sometimes it's crucial for the rotation, like in case with summoner, who gets a dogshit counter with huge cd that's also one of the biggest gauge fillers

[true tartan]

But there will be people who tries to not bring it still

[cunning mesa]

aly there's someone complaining about other's dps in here every day

[true tartan]

It's sorta mandatory

[charred void]

using it in their rotation for more meter gain what counter?? i need to use it for more meter!! let supports(bard ) counter

[nova garden]

It’s literally an implied (or not) incest anime. Ofc mizu has watched it.

[true tartan]

Unless u can clear/cheese the mechanic

[fresh flint]

one of my autizm pleasures has always been to watch 'bars' move or data sliders

[nova garden]

It does seem pretty funny from the clips I’ve seen tho.

[true tartan]

But normally those situation , u need to change gem for that which I think is pretty dumb

[cunning mesa]

bard counter

[queen grail]

Ok? But they aren't pinging the person and shit talking him.

[vague stirrup]

i meant to say you do have a counter no matter what you play
it's just sometimes you never have that counter ready outside of random situations or mech counters

[queen grail]

[midnight marlin]

sister is a side story
main love interest is not related to mc

[fresh flint]

this me in every raid

[cunning mesa]

berry might have a different experience than that

[fresh flint]

and then i die

[charred void]

that is exactly whats happening after you wipe 1-x times

[cunning mesa]

[true tartan]

Tbh. The sorcs last time benefit alot not bringing counter.

[cunning mesa]

why is there a conversation about meter and a conversation about incest at the side

[true tartan]

So I kinda get them

[cunning mesa]

[fresh flint]

this chat is fucking weird

[tulip charm]

you know people will use meter at brel raid, and they should

[queen grail]

Yea, that's why I wiped with juicy whales and 2 mokoko's in Echidna earlier and no one said anything just positive feedback on what to do better next time.

[tulip charm]

apparently its hard asf

but get that sht out of the behemoth raid

[true tartan]

Err, some classes can choose not to bring 1

[midnight marlin]

its called aggro control

[vague stirrup]

if i had meter on ru I'd notice an accbuyer sorc during g1 akkan and wouldn't be jailed in g3

[true tartan]

They have better skills to bring instead of counter.

[cunning mesa]

[charred void]

i had to play 2x venus traps PER PULL in echidna normal in my learning runs, do you think the people in the raid had any hands at all

[queen grail]

It's not meter that's making people toxic, toxic people are toxic regardless, and toxic people have no problems finding ways to be toxic.

[vague stirrup]

yeah, like asura breaker gets that, but I'm just really aware of summoner situation
that's really unfun

[true tartan]

Some of the korea sorcs are dropping counter again to bring 1 more big dps skill

[queen grail]

I don't know what this is implying or for? Was people rude due to meter in these runs or?

[true tartan]

If u have a static for it that allows u to do it. By all means

[visual smelt]

you can also drop maririn for released will so you have a counter on demand

[true tartan]

U mean the 1700 blade doing 60m in thaemine g3 doesn't have hands

[bold aspen]

no1 playing this class or what ? where the rest of that skin

[midnight marlin]

me but i know im wrong at the start

[cunning mesa]

XD

me but im never wrong

[charred void]

why do i need meter to tell me that some people(it was a learning run) do 0 dmg

[vague stirrup]

is that really a viable option?
cause like
there're viable build options
and there're options like "bring the ult that has destruction for that one mech but gut your performance significantly"

[queen grail]

How is it personal use if you look at others?

[vague stirrup]

cause while aware im not a summoner player

so need to ask

[visual smelt]

it depends

[queen grail]

Male class bad.

Why didn't you make Gunslinger? You dumbass.

[visual smelt]

released will itself gives 1 orb

[bold aspen]

[queen grail]

See, even the spit gif is a girl.

You failure.

[bold aspen]

im not a dirty coomer i wanted to buy that suit skin

[true tartan]

Honestly there's always a link to other people

Yes. Some people say it's for personal use

[visual smelt]

literally DEADeye

[true tartan]

But support buffs affect too much

[vague stirrup]

and maririn?..

[midnight marlin]

bring back rdps

[visual smelt]

maririn is more damage and adrenaline stacker

[true tartan]

So if u know the supp uptime is bad. U know that you can be much higher. Interms of dps

[queen grail]

Sure, but using it to compare & check up-time on that support compared to another run to gauge if you did well or if the up-time was bad is also a way to use the tool in a positive way to get a better picture of your own playing, and nothing of this needs to mean that you're going to be toxic or shit talk the guy or make someones day bad by having the meter.

[cunning mesa]

you can calculate supp uptime without meter

way easier than dps

[dull obsidian]

NAE log prog is about 150-160% money worth

[true tartan]

This is referring to like 5% of people using meter

Pretty sure majority of the people using meter is toxic

[queen grail]

If I had the meter I'd obviously use it also to compare similar'ish dps dmg and my own and my uptime/their's etc to see if I'm "Where I should be" or "What can I do to do better", but nothing of this means I'll use it to be toxic.

[true tartan]

For toxic use*

[visual smelt]

so i guess what you said still holds, you have to trade off damage

[fresh flint]

@kind lotus when raid

[queen grail]

Huh.

[cunning mesa]

like literally just have to count the seconds you are dealing dmg without supp buffs

[vague stirrup]

good luck calculating brand and identity uptime

[cunning mesa]

then boom, uptime

[dull obsidian]

I use the meter to flame!

[queen grail]

Nova, I don't remember last time I saw someone toxic due to meter in a raid @true tartan

[dull obsidian]

[dull obsidian]

you haven't met me!

[queen grail]

Not sure how you guys get so many of the toxic people, you must be getting all the ones I'm not getting.

[cunning mesa]

identity is harder but i tend to be correct when i do the math in my head

[true tartan]

U don't see it doesn't mean it's not happening

[queen grail]

Sure, but if they are toxic behind closed doors I don't really care ngl,

Like, I can sit in my room and call the woman on the tv fat, I don't think she's going to care much.

[charred void]

i had raids where people started yapping mid raid about something because of that garbage

[cunning mesa]

people just shush a bit bcs its still against tos

[true tartan]

I like the meter. I don't feel fun playing without one. But that doesn't mean that people is not gonna talk shit with it

[queen grail]

And as I said, "There's always some" does not mean It's the majority.

[cunning mesa]

but everyone is talking about how bad the other dps in their raids were

and point at exact numbers

[queen grail]

You think people care?

[true tartan]

I talk shit. But I don't talk shit in game because I don't want people to screenshot and post my ign on reddit

[queen grail]

People are full-streaming with meter in plain view Yumi.

[true tartan]

[visual smelt]

I simply keep track of every single hit every person does, how much the boss hp decreases for it, how often the boss has certain debuffs and how often I have certain buffs

So when I tell you that you want to press your buttons more frequently, please be aware that this is simply from me being a knower

[cunning mesa]

people are not that stupid

[visual smelt]

[cunning mesa]

they dont need to promote what they do in game

[true tartan]

Exactly

[queen grail]

People, stream, with it, with thousands of viewers, with dps meter, active, in view.

[true tartan]

U can talk shit in your own voice chat

[cunning mesa]

not the same as talking shit in game using it as evidence

one is easier to report than the other

also look at illegalia

[queen grail]

Yea, because vod's Is not a thing.

[cunning mesa]

streamers just get protection

no matter how bad they do

[true tartan]

And I'm 10000% sure people block certain dpser due to them not having hands

They dint have to voice out. They just block.

[queen grail]

Ok, but is that bad? I'm on the fence with this, because I've blocked people that I didn't have fun raiding with to try and avoid them in the future.

[vague stirrup]

While I do not insist on anything, I have reasons to doubt one's ability to properly count identity and brand on the course of several minutes in situations that might be stressful and might require your attention elsewhere
Only thing I'm confident in is my AP buff uptime, and the formula for that is simple
My expectations * 0,9
So if I think it was 90% it was probably 80%

[toxic tinsel]

I mean a player can improve

[queen grail]

And I feel like this Is somewhat in the same lane as that, It's not being toxic, It's just preventing you from being matched with those people again.

[toxic tinsel]

but you'd still have them blocked

[true tartan]

U dint have fun. Regarding?

We're talking about dps meter. So it's about dps

Don't tell me that he cuss u or whatever nonsense cos it's not related

[cunning mesa]

i mean its never going to be exact unless you are very good at multitasking. but its also pretty easy to notice when you are not buffing

[fresh flint]

[midnight marlin]

rmt

[charred void]

nice rmt

[visual smelt]

yk when the director said it would promote toxicity, idk

feels like if the mf is looking for a reason to get mad he'll find many and just unload everything on the next unfortunate soul

[fresh flint]

thank u thank u

[cunning mesa]

like i play bard. the only time i might not notice if im buffing correctly is when i place down sonic vibration

[dull obsidian]

WHERE ARE MY LOG PROGGERS

I GOT 15 MORE POTS TO BURN

AHHHHH

[cunning mesa]

bcs dps tend to go in and out of it, there's nothing you can do about it aside from placing the best that you can

[fresh flint]

i just throw sonic at one of the dps and hope the others go inside it

[cunning mesa]

but like if you are not chaining buffs correctly, you dont need meter to see that

[fresh flint]

lmfao

[queen grail]

I just used that as an example of why I blocked? The same would apply to dps, if someone is doing so poorly in your run that you either get jailed or just didn't have fun (slow run / multiple-retry / etc), is it toxic to block to try and avoid that person in the future?

[cunning mesa]

i just pray to have a melee

if i get a sorc its gg

[midnight marlin]

should be trying to fit in at least 2

[true tartan]

How'd know if that person is bad

[midnight marlin]

and hope they stand still

[fresh flint]

a melee that utilizies ur buffs at that

[true tartan]

Without meter

[visual smelt]

ignite still ok, reflux you'll never get any buff uptime

[fresh flint]

so many chicken shit dps

JUST SMACK HIS ASS

[charred void]

you see the guy on floor 50% of time and 30% of the time using a big hitting skill into boss dr

[visual smelt]

they'll be zipping around everywhere

source: myself

[cunning mesa]

they are my favourite kids

[queen grail]

You clearly wouldn't, (unless the dude legit just, dies at the start each time), but I wouldn't say that's an argument against meter to use it like that, It's not like he's shit talking him and then blocking him.

[fresh flint]

same, the others im sending to boarding school/selling for a loaf of bread

[true tartan]

those are very obvious cases, there are players who literaly run around doing nothing

[cunning mesa]

i mean bread is good

[true tartan]

idk about supp. but for dpsers, most of em dont pay attention to other dpsers

[fresh flint]

fresh bread the best

[cunning mesa]

[kind lotus]

damn finally

[true tartan]

yup, u wouldnt, so back to where i say people uses meter to block

[fresh flint]

[toxic tinsel]

thats what nova means though you dont know what his damage is so you cant block for low damage

[gleaming pendant]

Wow so fast....

[toxic tinsel]

and the mvp system is hardly accurate

[visual smelt]

most of the time if you're in a pt with me i won't be seeing where you put your atk buff because i have all ally effects off lol

i don't like seeing the yearning circle

[kind lotus]

[charred void]

whats not accurate about it

[fervent ibex]

wait u can turn buffs on though

[midnight marlin]

wait thats just int then

[fervent ibex]

[toxic tinsel]

in terms of judging dps based off of it

[midnight marlin]

frick you stand in my circle

[visual smelt]

[toxic tinsel]

since it takes counters and stuff into account too

[true tartan]

Thank you berry

[toxic tinsel]

you can be top dps and not mvp

[visual smelt]

ok i should go look in my settings again

[queen grail]

Ok? And my initial question to that was "Is that so bad to do?"

[toxic tinsel]

it's rare though

what's more common is 2nd dps and not on the screen

or 3rd etc

[cunning mesa]

the less dmg they deal the more cute my mokokos are

[true tartan]

If everybody starts blocking all the low dmg players, yes its bad

[ancient tundra]

rmt

[cunning mesa]

[true tartan]

wdym ''is that so bad to do so?'' of cos it is.

[ancient tundra]

ban this dude

[cunning mesa]

i mean if you remove bad players eventually you wont get lobbies

[true tartan]

thats what they are preventing exactly.

[queen grail]

I mean, you assume everyone that uses meter will do that, I assume they won't.

[gleaming pendant]

HOW TO NOT BLOCK WHEN THE BLADE IS DOING 27M IN G1

[fresh flint]

Fuego I will repeat myself since you never read what I say anymore

[fervent ibex]

turns off party members animations, but leaves up support buffs (sonic vibe, yearning, etc)

[true tartan]

Sweet summer child.

[toxic tinsel]

@dull obsidian do you know the gold breakpoint for life energy maris

[true tartan]

you so innocent.

[gleaming pendant]

1675 ANIMAL

[ancient tundra]

i miss it bro

[queen grail]

Is this where I say "Oh poor jaded old man" ?

[charred void]

literally everyone who plays mmos plays it for their own ego

[ancient tundra]

not on purpose

[queen grail]

"You're so damaged by the winds and rain of the tidewater".

[fresh flint]

I shave my head 2 days ago

[nimble birch]

[ancient tundra]

WAIT WA

[still lintel]

baldie

[true tartan]

i mean i dont blame u , you maybe one of those that dont care, but im sure majority of meter users will do so.

[cunning mesa]

i play it so i can do chaos dungeons

[ancient tundra]

bald mode?

[true tartan]

including me.

[fresh flint]

I AM THE ONE TRUE BALD MAN

[true tartan]

because im not gonna play with 1700 doing 60m on thaemine g3

[vague stirrup]

i mean if dude deals low damage im fine with that, could be a bad day or smth
now if he deals literally NO damage and I then spot him running around and doing nothing it's a whole different story and an instablock right there

[gleaming pendant]

Using a wig like baldie kun now?

[ancient tundra]

[fresh flint]

No just bald fuck wig

[true tartan]

[toxic tinsel]

ye but nova means if you didnt use meter how would you know the dps ppl are doing

[still lintel]

nah thats @sand marsh

[fresh flint]

Bout to run it against your leg it feels like cat tongue

[queen grail]

Pretty much, 99% of the people I raid with in my static use meter, and, they are quite vocal about it at times, (Not to the person, but inhouse inbetween us(and no, we don't kick anyone for low dmg)), and, so far, I've heard zero people say or mention "I blocked X person for doing Z dps".

[fresh flint]

NO I AM THE BALD CLAN LEADER

[true tartan]

i dont announce to kae when i block someone either

[fervent ibex]

wait i just got back to chat, what will majority of meter users do?!

[toxic tinsel]

wdf

this is so cool

[gleaming pendant]

Don't lie. You always announce to me

[fresh flint]

Circle jerk

[still lintel]

you didnt shave with razor?

[gleaming pendant]

You sick fuck

[fervent ibex]

kae always msgs me "just blocked another mf, go look at his chat history"

[true tartan]

shit, dont expose

[fresh flint]

No

[true tartan]

kae toxic

[midnight marlin]

ngl gs has gotten same ish skins like 3 years in a row

[queen grail]

Maybe not, but I think you might be overestimating how many people are as jaded and cynical as you when it comes to blocking dps player's We aren't all 1715 all 10's ultra giga whale dps meter goblins.

[gleaming pendant]

Yea like berry

[vague stirrup]

:segs:

[still lintel]

wdf why shave then?

[fresh flint]

Because it was making me mad

Too long

[toxic tinsel]

???? They added @nova garden as a skin????

[fresh flint]

I cut off

[queen grail]

Why do you do that Smh, I just play to look at nice asses.

[fresh flint]

[dull obsidian]

yeh just whenever

[toxic tinsel]

ishyyy

do you know the gold breakpoint for bc where it isnt profitable to buy life energy from maris

[true tartan]

u do know that thats one of the good part about having meter right, because im not gonna judge a 1640 for losing to 1715 all 10 ultra giga whale

[fervent ibex]

i just play for funsies i cba MVPing, all my alts are rats and i just keep making more of them

[dull obsidian]

er

mari for me is about 160-170% value

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-misono-mika-happy-wave-mika-gif-3013490862214836124

[toxic tinsel]

oki so if it's like even 120% for me then I can keep buying til like

2.9k

and still profit slightly

[fresh flint]

Raid now let’s go

[dull obsidian]

I have 23 pouches atm

[fervent ibex]

one of my rats jailed G3 LMAO unjailge me

[cunning mesa]

aly the world is a cruel place full of evil people

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-mouse-exterminator-gif-15003098

[fresh flint]

G3 of what?

[nimble birch]

clown

[fervent ibex]

hm thae

[queen grail]

I manage to also not judge 1640's that lose to me, without using meter.

[queen grail]

No It's not, don't be weird.

[cunning mesa]

yes it is

[fresh flint]

LMAO nope I’m never touching thae g3 again

[true tartan]

of cos when we say someone is doing low dps are those that have 1715 giga ultra whale but lost to

1660

1670 yadayda u get it.

[cunning mesa]

isekai into magic and fantasy world thx

[charred void]

bro youre always overgeared vs low roster noobs everytime i raid with you

[fresh flint]

Yumi I need help

[fervent ibex]

zzz first and last time i do a mokoko run for thaemine, G3 is just too much personal responsability

[fresh flint]

So you partake in anime consumption

[dull obsidian]

ye

[cunning mesa]

here to help

[charred void]

then you send the mvp screen of some irrelevant raid aly

[dull obsidian]

its like 11k~ to buy that

[fresh flint]

What’s the new anime where she died and isekai and all animals love her

[gleaming pendant]

Honestly no one cares that much nowadays, only feels angry when you see some dps not pulling their own weight aka meeting avg dps

[cunning mesa]

no idea, not watching that one

[queen grail]

I'd love to know why I sometimes do low / lower'ish dmg / close to 1660's and such on my main, but, sadly, I don't have the faintest Idea and I just have to mentally go over the fight in my head and try and nitpick at anything and everything that might be the reasons

[fresh flint]

LMAO it is I can’t be bothered to tolerate that shit

[dull obsidian]

come nineveh

and we log prog

[fresh flint]

HELP

[fervent ibex]

just gonna take a shot in the dark and say "i died and reincarnated into the princess who loves animals"

[fresh flint]

[fresh flint]

Oh yeah probably

[queen grail]

That's, just a lie, I've often invited equal/better geared but you never remember that if I had meter I could have showed you.

[fresh flint]

Let me try goggle

[gleaming pendant]

Snow white and the seven animals

[true tartan]

well most of the times people are just gonna shit talk, but then again u think people are not

[charred void]

you literally invite roster <200 for shit raids

always gs or breaker meta chasers

[fervent ibex]

feel like i was pretty close

[cunning mesa]

aly sometimes raids with me

[queen grail]

Ye, sometimes bad, but also good players, but YOU NEVER REMEMBER THAT!

You turd.

[charred void]

i dont remember ever seeing you with "equally geared people" in a raid

[toxic tinsel]

WAIT YOU ARE

???

[fresh flint]

Yeah that

I watch that now gg bye

[cunning mesa]

back in the good old days, with our full dps goblin static

[bold aspen]

@queen grail found someone to sell me the other suit. im done now

[queen grail]

I mean, I'm just working out from what I know, and what people do in Private Is not something I care much about, like I complain about bad player's all the time here, but I'm not going to whisper him and say it to him

[queen grail]

But.

[stark thicket]

Yumi is a goblin

[queen grail]

I don't get it.

[toxic tinsel]

wanna log?

[queen grail]

You could have had Gunslinger.

[cunning mesa]

no

[queen grail]

This could have been you! @bold aspen

[toxic tinsel]

grrr

[still lintel]

@fresh flint right now

[fervent ibex]

someone already said this in all the yelling from 20 mins ago, but like while I understand that, the devs also design raids where people must pull their weight zz

soooo who's to blame

[dull obsidian]

logging is most gold

[fresh flint]

LMAOOO literally

[dull obsidian]

its also the fastest

why aren't you logging..?

[queen grail]

You could have been like THIS!!! @bold aspen

[bold aspen]

boring. i dont like coomer shit. i had SE and Slayer on main in coomer skins. i got bored after 2 days cuz everyone does the same thing

[gleaming pendant]

THE WHALES FOR NOT DOING MORE

[toxic tinsel]

ishy said logging is most gold quick we go log @sand marsh

[queen grail]

I do it all the time you dunse.

[toxic tinsel]

hmmm

ishy is this true

are you dum

[fresh flint]

@cunning mesa I have a picture for you let me get back to my pc

[toxic tinsel]

[queen grail]

Ok, you keep telling yourself that

[bold aspen]

the moment we get coomer skins everyone pulls their cock out and starts jerking it to that shit. i aint doing female chars or coomer skins anymore

[toxic tinsel]

ai

[bold aspen]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66b6a0a72c53a490f8e9b3b2/4x.gif

[fervent ibex]

didnt the director "say the quiet part out loud" in today's live stream? apparently he said something like "some people feel discouraged when they can see their damage" or something laong those lines? LOL

bro really just said "dont let our whales know they're shit"

[queen grail]

Gunslinger is just, better man, she's my next 1640 @bold aspen

[toxic tinsel]

what is this cringe ai shit

[bold aspen]

why she oiled up

[cunning mesa]

[midnight marlin]

#ai-gallery

[queen grail]

[toxic tinsel]

[bold aspen]

[toxic tinsel]

i see

[fresh flint]

here u go

[fervent ibex]

bring back pissriver ong

save us pissriver

[queen grail]

Ok, that's too far.

[cunning mesa]

doesnt help

[gleaming pendant]

Yea he basically said the cons outweigh the pros, and also acknowledged that it was a huge balance issue on their end, wanting to make a challenging content but also needing to cater to fucking dimwits who can't press qwerasdft is hard.

[queen grail]

@true tartan Can you ban @fresh flint That picture is a warcrime.

[limber sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-burn-wargame-fantasy-burning-gif-16670316

[still lintel]

Head like a ball sack

[ancient tundra]

[bold aspen]

tubby uses this as his pfp. the little gremlin

[fresh flint]

blame tubby he gave it to me

[queen grail]

The cons: Whale's will see that $ does not equate too skills and a few loud idiots

[stark thicket]

Did you manage to change raidboss bot?

[limber sluice]

oh

[summer perch]

Dice Roll

You rolled a 83 on a d100!

[ /roll ] - [ /slots ] - [ /flip ] - [/lottery] - [ /withdrawl ] · Nov 8, 2024, 4:03 AM

[gleaming pendant]

The zdps would get fucked proceed to get raid anxiety and then proceed to drop out of game.

[fervent ibex]

• their class balance comes to light
• whales realize they're doing less than f2p even though they spent their life savings on a class
• their class balance comes to light
• inven morons witch-hunting

also their shitty class balance comes to light

if i forgot to mention that

[gleaming pendant]

Like it or not, the game need those players to survive as well

[queen grail]

But, Inven already has witch hunting, for like, the wildest stuff.

[gleaming pendant]

Yea they tried to do fun content, look what the player base did

[queen grail]

Didn't someone not use item on a guardian once and get hunted down

[gleaming pendant]

WHY YOU DOING THIS LAME ASS SHIT

FOCUS ON RAID

[fervent ibex]

i mean, they should just make Esther Weapons a "clear" button at this point, whales complaining about seeing their shit dps

[cunning mesa]

naruni race was their best thing ever created for casuals and it was boring after 1 go

[gleaming pendant]

Indirectly, the kr players reap what they sowed.

[fervent ibex]

just pay the 100k USD and clear raid with click

[toxic tinsel]

why is all the 6th anni male stuff so cool and the female stuff is mid

[queen grail]

I personally think a lot of people would get a lot of help seeing their own numbers too I don't think I'm alone on wanting to improve if I see bad numbers.

[limber sluice]

Yeah I did

[summer perch]

<212635314651398144> You rolled a 6

[limber sluice]

fuck

I forgot

[bold aspen]

[gleaming pendant]

<212635314651398144> You rolled a 6

[toxic tinsel]

wait the 6th anni se weapon looks so sick man

[cunning mesa]

bcs we are coomers and the people who won arent

[dull obsidian]

berrydummy

[fervent ibex]

me when my raid sim starts adding shit that isnt raid

[toxic tinsel]

what!

[fervent ibex]

[vague stirrup]

was there ever a "fun" content granting crucial progression stuff in the same amount raiding did at any point of the game's existence?

[summer perch]

@limber sluice You rolled a 5

[cunning mesa]

people meltdown when seeing numbers

[vague stirrup]

or rather
was the core of this game ever "fun" and "casual"?

[toxic tinsel]

@dull obsidian you get a little face on yours

[fervent ibex]

in season 1, apparently, yeah

saintone talks about it sometimes

[fresh flint]

anyone have anime website for watch free anime

nid help

[vague stirrup]

oh

[limber sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/vomit-team-america-gif-20626876

[fresh flint]

you never showed pic of ur garage

[cunning mesa]

you had pvp and then the first events

[fervent ibex]

it was also apparently 10x more annoying/tedious/mind-numbing though

soooo

[cunning mesa]

after that, mokokos and nothing else

[queen grail]

Let's say you had meter Yumi, and then you saw during a fight that you had 50% brand up-time, you don't think you would use that to adjust your playing?

[fervent ibex]

pick ur poison

[gleaming pendant]

Aniwave still exist I think

[dull obsidian]

if I had 50% brand

I think I would rather kms

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/pokimane-broke-boy-gif-1631750273434798155

[fervent ibex]

i dm u my list

[midnight marlin]

dead

[cunning mesa]

aly if i had 50% i would notice with and without meter XD

[fresh flint]

Wtf they shut down now theyre back

[queen grail]

Ye, but, you're also unstable and shouldn't be allowed to walk in public unless you had a guardian around you.

[toxic tinsel]

?

[tulip charm]

is it?
i can't speak for other people but you don't seem toxic?

[vague stirrup]

i mean...
destiny? do stories, do somewhat challenging pve but still forgiving as fuck compared to loa, people enjoy that shit and pay $100 annually for DLC
WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT PVP STATE IN DESTINY OK

[tulip charm]

people can choose to be toxic or not, its not a default setting

[vague stirrup]

you also get events n shit

[midnight marlin]

miruro tv

[queen grail]

You say that, but, there are lots of support, that don't, and this is a HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO!

[urban obsidian]

wtf

[gleaming pendant]

Isn't. .se them

[urban obsidian]

somebody bought every awakening book

[dull obsidian]

They're shit anyway

why would you ever want them

[midnight marlin]

no

.to

[cunning mesa]

yeah if they cant see their own uptime is around 50% then they have meter to flame others 99% likely

[queen grail]

You're, I'm not having this convo anymore.

[cunning mesa]

aly you just want legal meter

[fervent ibex]

PUBLIC SHAMING: @fresh flint

[queen grail]

So, nice weather we have today.

[midnight marlin]

they even forgot to change this one too

[queen grail]

Anyone see the game last night?

[toxic tinsel]

Dexter Season 1’s Funniest Moments 🤭
whos watching with me

[fresh flint]

HEY FUC U

[urban obsidian]

wtf

[fresh flint]

[urban obsidian]

a guildie just cut a 200k relic ring

[midnight marlin]

oh we should probably not share theses in a partnered discord server

[urban obsidian]

[midnight marlin]

[urban obsidian]

whens it my turn bro

[fervent ibex]

200k for a ring u gonna replace in 2 weeks?

cwazy

[urban obsidian]

its a support ring

no replacing

[analog path]

bruh you can't share that in a public discord

[fervent ibex]

zz

[analog path]

[queen grail]

"When is it my turn" says the 2,1 million gold sideral dropper.

Zheng 2,0.

[urban obsidian]

its a high ally dmg mid ally ap

[fresh flint]

yeah i thought so...they released a shutdown letter\

[toxic tinsel]

mizu can never get enough

[fresh flint]

whoever released this one bless them

[cunning mesa]

was a pleasure knowing you

[analog path]

banne d

[midnight marlin]

dont use it

[fresh flint]

wai not

[toxic tinsel]

mizu could cut a 1mil ring and the very next week he'd be complaining about not being able to cut a good necklace

[urban obsidian]

[midnight marlin]

if its rereleased with the same name its probably a worse actor

[fresh flint]

ow

[vague stirrup]

I hope sg just gives people a personal meter at some point of their life and these discussions will never happen again

[fresh flint]

oke i go 9anime

[cunning mesa]

i can give the one i use for english subs when im back to my pc

[midnight marlin]

[queen grail]

Just find a friend with crunchy and use that @fresh flint

[midnight marlin]

9anime was the one that changed their name to aniwave

[queen grail]

There's lots of weebs here.

Just ask one of them?

@sand marsh You got Crunchy that @fresh flint can borrow?

[tulip charm]

mokoko leaf host changed the raid entry req...

[urban obsidian]

wanan know what full ancient gets you on support @fervent ibex

atleast for artists

[gleaming pendant]

Just use index moe

[urban obsidian]

more moonfall range!!!

[fervent ibex]

nah idrc

[cunning mesa]

i think i use that one

[gleaming pendant]

And find a site

[fervent ibex]

but im sure gonna yap about it

[urban obsidian]

so big!!

[fervent ibex]

yeah ur yapping

[urban obsidian]

[fresh flint]

shin help whats name of anime again

[gleaming pendant]

Can also use hikaritv

[urban obsidian]

im gonna run arkpassive 1 armor piece short and join a lobby with you in it just to int you

[fresh flint]

[fervent ibex]

yo google exists my guy

[gleaming pendant]

[fresh flint]

why google when u can do for me

[urban obsidian]

what aly

no it isnt lol

your dps is losing 7% evo dmg

[queen grail]

Be real, you didn't google this, you knew it was Fluffy Paradise.

On support? No.

[urban obsidian]

no you dont

LOL

[fresh flint]

HOLY ITS A FULL RELEASE TOO

[queen grail]

If you're a support with 2 armor I'd gatekeep you.

[fresh flint]

[urban obsidian]

yeh sure

with

mid high + mid high rings

which nobody has

[urban obsidian]

you are losing dmg

unless you have a set of accs that costs 2mil+

[fervent ibex]

answer was High Card btw

[fresh flint]

wtf mods BOOLIE

[midnight marlin]

deserved

[urban obsidian]

guess what

[fresh flint]

suck me bitch

[urban obsidian]

they have arkpassive too and are naturally stronger

[midnight marlin]

nah

[urban obsidian]

youa re losing dmg with 2 pieces

it is very bad

[fresh flint]

https://tenor.com/view/you-smell-like-crap-you-stink-disgusting-stinky-take-a-bath-gif-17059185

[urban obsidian]

people also over value brand%

[fervent ibex]

ive seen one of those "anime summary" tiktoks of it, but they never include the name

so i knew the plot, but not the name

[urban obsidian]

its not as strong as some people believe it to be

[toxic tinsel]

idk mizu i think id believe the guy saying he tested it

unless you did too

[urban obsidian]

ive tested it

i know multiple other ppl who've tested it

i know ppl in kr who tested it the month they had meter

[toxic tinsel]

maybe desu got rlly lucky

with team crits

or smth

[urban obsidian]

it is very bad to run arkpassive on a support with 2 pieces

[queen grail]

[toxic tinsel]

test again ig @sand marsh

i trust mizu if he's telling the truth abt all the kr and other ppl

[fresh flint]

i lub anume

[urban obsidian]

if he thinks its better then he can run it

[toxic tinsel]

o gg then ig

[urban obsidian]

but there is signifcant proof that it is substantially worse

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-kiss-gif-24026599

[midnight marlin]

gayge

[dawn yacht]

[urban obsidian]

i will say

they rly fucked over support chaos with arkpassive

[toxic tinsel]

wait

is it like

only buff supp

for ark passive

[cunning mesa]

i lub anime too

[toxic tinsel]

no dps supp stuff

[urban obsidian]

there is a dps side

but its "raid" dps

it wont do much for you in a chaos

[toxic tinsel]

ah...

so u disable it for chaos im guessing

ark passive

[midnight marlin]

it feels

[queen grail]

They gave you Betrayal inbuilt in the chaos at least.

[midnight marlin]

fine

i just run all skill cd nodes

[toxic tinsel]

until we reach rimeria

[urban obsidian]

dw tho

[toxic tinsel]

then we have to do it all again

[urban obsidian]

lvl 4 we have vagabond!

[toxic tinsel]

yooo

vagabond so bis

[queen grail]

They really know how to make supports over at SG.

[urban obsidian]

+8% dmg at lvl 5

[queen grail]

[toxic tinsel]

mizu

buy full high mid so you can do chaos on sup

[drowsy gyro]

Support ark passive

actually, i am kinda looking forward to my pally ark passive

[urban obsidian]

[drowsy gyro]

but man using ark passive with relics sucks

[queen grail]

Still think It's kinda wild they lowered the move/as from old yearning for supports bullies.

[left tundra]

berry

[fervent ibex]

CHAOS DAMAGE YESSS

[left tundra]

do u play se

[tulip charm]

how many shards are you guys able to funnel to main in 1 reset?

[urban obsidian]

i love the changes sg did to artist in arkpassive

we get a useless 1 bubble

[toxic tinsel]

ya

[urban obsidian]

that will be used very rarely

[charred void]

enough digging in old trash(yes, thats on page 114)

[urban obsidian]

so fun so fun

bard got an extra bubble

[queen grail]

Ok, but, you don't know what was in the party here.

[urban obsidian]

pally got using aura early

artist got 1 bubble buff

[toxic tinsel]

artist bubble buff so good in extremely niche scenarios

[queen grail]

Also, is this why you were gone? @charred void

[urban obsidian]

berry

[toxic tinsel]

now you dont waste a bubble when you want to awaken with 1 bubble mizu

[urban obsidian]

list ur destruction stones for 16g

thx

[toxic tinsel]

uhmm

i dont think i will!

[urban obsidian]

awakening only fills 2 bubbles

[tulip charm]

[toxic tinsel]

buh

what is it even used for then

[urban obsidian]

to awaken and fill up 2 bubbles

[toxic tinsel]

not awaken mizu

the 1 bubble ark passive thing

[urban obsidian]

so you can send a 5 second moonfall

[midnight marlin]

you dont want to overmeter with awaken

but heal is not needed

1 bubble buff

[toxic tinsel]

😭

so its good if u have like

1.5 bubbles

and u dont wanna waste .5

[midnight marlin]

ye

[toxic tinsel]

or smth

icic

[left tundra]

berry check d,s

dms

[urban obsidian]

its giga useless

[midnight marlin]

its giga useless

[queen grail]

But, if you have 1,9 orb's you can now dmg buff > awakening and not burn 0,9 orb's @urban obsidian

[urban obsidian]

the only good thing about it is us getting old 20flower wep back

[urban obsidian]

or you could use 1 skill 2 bubble > awakening

[queen grail]

No time, I need to buff awak now

[toxic tinsel]

i think aly means u can buff instead of heal orb now

[urban obsidian]

bc ur gonna be capped on meter for a couple seconds after ur awakening

and ur losing meter gen uptime

[toxic tinsel]

if somehow u cant gain meter

[urban obsidian]

sitting on max bubbles

[toxic tinsel]

and u have more than 1

[urban obsidian]

the only time i ever see it actually worth it to 1 bubble is if ur caught offguard in a burst window without 2 built

[queen grail]

This sold Nice.

[toxic tinsel]

what about like

if ur gonna awaken for preventing damage and u cant generate guage for whatever reason

and u have like 1.5

[urban obsidian]

why are you a support

awakening for dmg

?

[toxic tinsel]

preventing damage

i mistyped

[urban obsidian]

dr

[toxic tinsel]

ya but like if u need to hyper or whatever

idk if there is anyfin like that tho

[dull obsidian]

In about 30/40 of my potions

[urban obsidian]

and fun fact

[dull obsidian]

I've made about 50k gold

[toxic tinsel]

idk if g4 actually does that much damage does it

[urban obsidian]

starry fills up

almost an entire orb

so you can

starry > 2 bubble > awakening

and get the same effect as 1 bubble > awakening

[dull obsidian]

I spent 28k~ on 40 pots

and I've made 50k and I still have 8 more pots

these pots are mega value

[queen grail]

Whale.

Stop being a whale.

[dull obsidian]

only problem is that you have to log prog for awhile

[ancient tundra]

🪞

[toxic tinsel]

whale to profit off life energy

[queen grail]

Logging is so fucking fast.

It's ZOOM ZOOM.

[urban obsidian]

1 bubble buffing on artist is incredibly incredibly niche

and it almost never gets used

[toxic tinsel]

i think it would have been cooler if like

ark passive had a node where if you buff or heal with 3 orbs

it's slightly stronger

[urban obsidian]

it wouldve been cooler if

arkpassive actually made changes to support gameplay

[queen grail]

Surely I'll get enough shards to do 2x6 hones in a week or two.

[urban obsidian]

but

sg doesnt care about supports so thatll never happen

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/you-asking-too-much-zac-zatima-you're-asking-a-lot-bet-networks-gif-16292231147764246157

[urban obsidian]

oh shit support buffs from new progression systems?

lets see what can we add

ooh i know brand effectiveness

[toxic tinsel]

well the only way I can think of them doing that is having a heal/buff mode that you have to switch between

[urban obsidian]

ooh i know

[toxic tinsel]

and then most ppl would just stay in buff

[urban obsidian]

ap effectiveness

[queen grail]

Why is Quality on Wep worthless also still

I mean, at least I don't have to fomo quality, but still.

[urban obsidian]

oh right oh right i know

ally atk dmg

[queen grail]

[toxic tinsel]

ally atk is goated

for a buffer

[urban obsidian]

big changes for support gameplay

[toxic tinsel]

but it's so boring

[urban obsidian]

our buffs

buff slightly more!....

[toxic tinsel]

well yeah

[queen grail]

[toxic tinsel]

i mean its the same with dps isnt it

[urban obsidian]

no

[toxic tinsel]

ur dps is slightly higher

[urban obsidian]

not at all lol

[toxic tinsel]

wdym

[ancient tundra]

Nice gold

Aly