#lost-ark-discussions
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chuan the type to beat the shit out his kids bc they pass him the wrong tool
Fr
????????
Bet he enjoys hitting people
Hit DN

Nah ud enjoy it
?
what
that reminds me
its true
DN stood for Domestic Niolence, wtf you on about?
Good thing none of yall will be passing on ur genes
Berry
What it reminds you off
i ainta virgin
i dont think i will be elaborating
As long as yours aren't passed the world will be safe
no more bots
Low-key kinda racist... but also, not like yours is getting passed on too
Yeah always knew Chuan was racist
Why mine isn’t being passed 
Chuan feels like this dude
And how is that racist
he passing on micropeen genes
That was bait


Sussy

replace the s with b
bubby
"the"
susby
what s
idiot berry
welcome to edging
EDGE
idk how u guys can do that
my "Nightedging" is on alt
my gunslinger still has 2 salad pieces
i hope the transfer stones will fix that
making multiple chars to get higher quality taps
it enhances the climax (allegedly)
oh
thats what u meant
uh
who said i made multiple characters
i made one and i tapped it
what is rice farm!

people who plays multiple account to farm rice (gold)
Despite how much Net talks like an NPC, they're not a rice farmer
mf
net has like 4 accounts
im a rice farmer ill milk u for all ur rice
?

According to my calculations I should be able to make it to lv70 for aegir 

bro spirit bumb in chaos gate and it didn't even take the boss down one bard
I’m almost 69 just need like 110 mil xp
lame
i eat so much rice call me chuan
kae beat u to it
I rerolled about 20 characters until I got 100 with one 😛
Kae is a degenerate with 100+ cubes
ok chuan
Chuan is evolving! They're now a Porpoise!
i have 98 that's good enough

Yeah
I was going to settle with anything above 95
shut up bitch
and what are u
arent u degenerate too
make me
mr feedy

if u get 99 tho wouldnt that make u reset to get 100 

*neighs*
No. I am f2p+ casual gamer
?????



My game just froze trying to load the Abyss jukebox
canon
L pc
L shin
Not very f2p of you
wtf
i was thining about s sp e
im W
wet?
wet
yes


ure the one who started it now youre weirdgaing?

cant be gay?
i'm w edging
adriel is the real gay
Why ppl put in so much effort for weapon qual on a rando alt. I go on nae ignite 1 chae, bam 100 qual first first. Go on naw ignite. Every piece purple first try with 97 weapon

@supple parrot Soon you will be unstoppable
true
"Why Im so lucky and ppl arent?"
I actually needs this. Cuz every alt needs the lvls to unlock ark passive pts for huge dps boost
yup
My nae char is only lv62 almost 63. He only has like 10 cubes and I haven’t ran em

my express pally getting better gear than main :L
NO
only 1610 on ignite? lul
i dont wana trans this mf i need to save some gold
u see the roster
real
yeah u get faster exp + probably spam chars
186 roster on ignite? No way
you met your match
its on ignite man
Tower abuse + Arkesia Pass + Whatever else, bet
Must -> Do Tower -> Delete -> Remake -> Do Tower
The roster lvl don’t even transfer over tho?
theres no exploi
6 per day isnt enough tower
They do if you roster xfer
he mustve been grinded that shit til death
Delete and make new toons
I refuse to believe someone did this without botting
how can one bot on ignite
Can prob write a simple bot to do tower. It’s pretty scripted

ok but what happenes if bro finishes tower
pc will change the character by itself?
do the other 2
thats possible?
finish -> esc -> char select -> new char
Yes u can do that
That’s not hard to do at all

okay then teach me?
the harder stuff will be like
this like the 3rd time u said it
rng and doing damage in tower
How u think those fish bots worked? Once they out of energy they auto swap to a diff acc

Do we know when brel release in eu ?
tomorrow
Okay thx
capping out cho teef
that is not what i asked for u to teach
Auto swap ? 

I lied
I mean I doubt humans are swapping it. It’s not hard to have a log out log in script
:Pikachu surprised face :
itll be around december @late cliff for brel2


then itsnot easy
Why do you need a teacher for everything
???????
oh wow
It’s easy if u know how to code and look into it idiot. Like for someone with the knowledge. For a bozo like u. No it’s not easy
the gold pack is massive value
because he is submissive and breedable

guys im fucking trying to set up chuan to know hes a fucking botter
They rebalanced all the Stronghold Crew members


he isn’t?
Or maybe yes
I m not 

for a bozo like me who helped you build a pc sure its not easy 
holy shit leapstone is 8g ea
ikr 
@modern grail meow!
I went to school for computer science not electric engineering idiot
but cant build pc

pays for windows license


Why would I pirate when I’m not a Brokie
you know windows is free
so ur artistic?
its not a pirate dumbass
That’s called pirating

Just like your ip address
it is not
it isnt actually
If u use a software without paying it is pirating u idiot
no it is

Windows isn t free
It is absolute pirating to use a script to unlock windows
you talk how botting in loa is a script, you can scriot a windows to be free you fucking dumass
its not
Had employee discount it was like 20 bucks. Why would I pirate it


That is pirating
Ur so dumb
I KEEP GETTING 5-2
https://discord.com/channels/889990467180175440/1296447006629429279
is this only happen to me?
all my character like this
The script is literally just using spoofed key to activate ur windows. It is literally pirating
LMFAOOOOOOOO

It is literally on github. Idk why u say it’s not pirating when the code is public access
boofing but you're also comitting fraud whilst high

mf its not pirating
its a script that exploits the activator
you are not pirating any shit
are u dumb
U are so stupid
???
That is the definition of pirating
i cant stop laughing
Holy shit

Free Therapy?
why is your caught so big
how is it pirating when fkin microsoft supports use that shit, u arent stealing anything dumass
In the old days that’s literally what ppl did. They got a script to crack a protected software so then copy it onto cds and sell it to u. Now u download the script and crack ur self. Literally pirating
Is it the same arkesia tour we got awhile ago?
Or updated
same
Aighto ty
yeah,going to dentist soo
It is using a spoofed key. Microsoft doesn’t care enuf to go after it to cancel the support. Doesn’t mean it isn’t pirate software. U have 0 knowledge on how shit works

U are using a paid software without paying. That is the definition of pirating
….
I’m done man. I’m losing iq talking to u
pirating is like with an eyepatch and a cool triangle hat
no its not a spoofed key wtf
idk what is script and stuff
but you can actually download win 10 from Microsoft even prof edition, and it would be "requires activation" indefinitely
would not allow you to change wallpaper tho
i used for year it.
maybe a cutlass
You can get around it with a script. Which is what we are talking about
a tricorn 
ur mom
ur mum 
it's called humor, dark liberals
Did u read the code? Cuz I did
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it's called edging, souleater


jajaj
miaio
no i dont, but for what i know its just a script that exploits the fkin activator, send certificate shit on ms servers, registering ur hardware valid
theres no spoofed key being used
from what i recall
and its on github, ms owns github
That is the definition of spoofing a key. The definition of pirating. How are u so dense
if it was pirating it would be gone literally ever eince it was made
???
That is what pirating is
its two different things

I’m done man. Ur too dumb
HAHAHHAHAHA
youre the one whos fkin dumb

be honest, whos dumb here
if other people told me im wrong and its not chuan im believing it

cracking/exploit is also considered piracy u can look it up yourself
you asked, i answered u say "ur so dumb" when you cant fucking explain the "code" youve read
what u are doing is product cracking
Cuz it’s not worth my time to explain it to u when u have 0 back ground in coding
And u don’t understand the basics

But there. Justin confirmed it for u

id be glad if u do? cus youre making an effort to say im wrong with credentials and not jus saying "ur dense"

its ok just different terminology but same umbrella no need to get so worked up over it 
shin cooked up
Saying it’s not pirating it’s exploiting is like saying it’s not a penis it’s a dick
@burnt tree You seen any of the Brel stuff from KR yet?
Story or?
either
if you wouldve told me this sooner i would actually get it unironically
From brel release and clear yeah unless I missed something new
nah nothing new, just that it shows how the old barriers of Vern worked
well more like they are different methods of commiting the same crime 
you know most software dont really care if you crack it dor personal use, its when you work and ask to procure license thats when they get you
Oh you mean the demons getting turned to space dust
so is it pirating or exploiting
cuz your company will get massive fine if you get caught not using license
That’s exactly why the script is on github and Microsoft isn’t even going after them or fixing it
They literally don’t care
and at the end, there's a barrier they literally can't enter. Like how South Vern / North Vern had one
did they lose
man this is so funny how many afkers with macro in north kurzan there are
cause seems like the latter sounds like pirating and using for personal use is exploiting
nah its still ongoing
@burnt tree
but betting 1000 to win 600 is hilarious odds
do u even play league 
Inb4 Kazeros can just one punch it
Hmaster nuggies
??????
what that mouf do
tf would kazeros one punch
that's brels castle
Hope they get banned

Oh my sweet summer child

Berry...
i mean when u beat brel that shows up
That was an illusion

but its still physically there
Brel's "Castle" is ruins of Abydos

When Brel rapport?


T6
On god
what does the first one even mean
exploit is when you take advantage of vulnerability in code, the thing is these product keys have certain rule when they get created if you find the function you will be able to generate infinite amt yourseld
Essentially buying digital games means you rent it for a long time
I pay for you do I own you
You don't own it
It’s the recent bs about the thing where if a game goes eos u should still have access to it
thats why microsoft cna quickly check its validity without internet
EU is introducing sunsetting laws regarding EoS and abandonware
Forego service -> forgo ownership etc.
They haven’t even gotten enuf signatures to begin the process. They alrdy making laws?

I mean the whole Ukraine war is probably delaying it
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but someone will have to indefinitelt pay for the service

thats why there should be offline play
You can patch a game to work on non-dedicated servers

Exactly. Which is why I said it’s stupid

It could make sense for single player games. But not for multi
DRM for singleplayer games has always been 
sing player drm is just greed
but for mmo trying to build for both scenario will be scope creep
let alone anything else that occurs in its lifetime
yea thats the whole shenanigan of the script, taking advantage of the vulnerability in code, but what i i dont get is how it would be pirating when youre not stealing something
Up there with Adobe CS5 being able to be used for free by swapping a single .dll file
U are generating ur own key. Ur stealing the product 
ok will be good for my slayer 
Let’s say I give out boxes for free but u need to buy key from me if u wanna open and get the thing inside. If u make ur own key. It’s stealing

but the thing is
the key that i make
its not me making it
its the script


bro i get that part, youre the one recording the movie
of course youre the one whos stealing it
The gun killed him i just pulled the trigger
but on windows product key case its different

erm gonna say he's the bullet and he was just going one way
no i need to confirm, i cant sleep if im this curious man
Ur trying to use weird semantics as a gacha to somehow say it is not pirating. It literally doesn’t matter what u call it. The software is meant to be a paid item. U are using it for free. Therefore it is stealing. Not much else to talk about
who said we would be sleeping

max mp+6 
what if i own a movie on dvd, but decide to pirate it online to watch it on my pc because i dont have a dvd/cd drive etc
BERRY THE LIGHT DEEP WITHIIIIIIIIIN

Replace ATK Power with Brand Power and it'd be kinda decent
Then ur a moron to buy a dvd when u don’t have a player

i jus made a point
what if the dvds are old and we got rid of dvd/cd player long time ago?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ur points are irrelevant
i have loads of dvds movies but no longer have a dvd player

ill wait to see if wrekk says if its pirating or not
Whatever helps u sleep at night. If u wanna believe it’s not pirating then just believe what u want
no i need truth
its bc ure the one saying it
@swift tree how come out of all sidereals, shandi is the only one that got "old"
im no believing everything chuan says
Literally everyone here said it
3/7 are immortal. The rest died
justin is one, but wrekk said sumn that made me confused
Don’t do it while rmt is a week ban fish botting is perma
"it's not pirating no it's technically-
"
"yes, it's pirating
"
what do you mean the rest
That’s why I didn’t want to explain it to u. It will just confuse ur lil mind
wrekk didnt said it tho
he jus said its exploting the vulnersbility of the code
i dont see wheres the pirating there
Galatur, Sien, Luterra etc. all died

It’s like he said dick. But ur like aha! But he didn’t say penis. Therefore he didn’t say it


but if nineveh is also 500 years old why is she not as old as chuan
lol not chuan
shandi
same thing
both old as fuck
I sold an ally enhancement one for 12k
I sold an ally enhancement one for 12k
why if its being related dicks i get it somehow wtf
Azena/Nineveh are literally ageless. Kadan is weird their age is "frozen" and Shandi just got old
It is pirating. Dude is on some weird copium to help him self sleep at night
I sold an ally enhancement one for 12k
You don’t get windows for free it’s built in the pc price tag
by their are you referring to just kadan or multiple people
Kadan
He built his own pc. It doesn’t come with windows
i activate windows with like 3 cmd lines

I got it all done for me why bother when there are little bees that do it for you
Net lives in third world country. They all pirate

cus ur a bottom
I think pirating games now, vs older games like pokemon games or pirating movies/music is a bit different.. If i own the older game or movies/music on a disc but do not own the hardware to play them, id download them off the internet, technically im not pirating because i do in fact own the older games/music/movies. Its harder to pirate things today, but if i bought a game on steam that was live service only and it shut down and someone patched it to make it offline but you need to download/pirate elsewhere what do you say then?
fuck is this guy yapping about bees
I think pirating games now, vs older games like pokemon games or pirating movies/music is a bit different.. If i own the older game or movies/music on a disc but do not own the hardware to play them, id download them off the internet, technically im not pirating because i do in fact own the older games/music/movies. Its harder to pirate things today, but if i bought a game on steam that was live service only and it shut down and someone patched it to make it offline but you need to download/pirate elsewhere what do you say then?
why spend hundreds of dollars on subscriptions when i can get the same for less social status
nah its jus chuan being gay
I think pirating games now, vs older games like pokemon games or pirating movies/music is a bit different.. If i own the older game or movies/music on a disc but do not own the hardware to play them, id download them off the internet, technically im not pirating because i do in fact own the older games/music/movies. Its harder to pirate things today, but if i bought a game on steam that was live service only and it shut down and someone patched it to make it offline but you need to download/pirate elsewhere what do you say then?

I think pirating games now, vs older games like pokemon games or pirating movies/music is a bit different.. If i own the older game or movies/music on a disc but do not own the hardware to play them, id download them off the internet, technically im not pirating because i do in fact own the older games/music/movies. Its harder to pirate things today, but if i bought a game on steam that was live service only and it shut down and someone patched it to make it offline but you need to download/pirate elsewhere what do you say then?
if you already paid for it, you own it.. fuck what the company says in tos
I’m not here to argue the morality of pirating. I don’t care if u pirate or not. I’m just saying it is pirating
highg off a 30 yerc
hooge
wtf
I think pirating games now, vs older games like pokemon games or pirating movies/music is a bit different.. If i own the older game or movies/music on a disc but do not own the hardware to play them, id download them off the internet, technically im not pirating because i do in fact own the older games/music/movies. Its harder to pirate things today, but if i bought a game on steam that was live service only and it shut down and someone patched it to make it offline but you need to download/pirate elsewhere what do you say then?
thats why im having helikopter kitten nuggets today
I think pirating games now, vs older games like pokemon games or pirating movies/music is a bit different.. If i own the older game or movies/music on a disc but do not own the hardware to play them, id download them off the internet, technically im not pirating because i do in fact own the older games/music/movies. Its harder to pirate things today, but if i bought a game on steam that was live service only and it shut down and someone patched it to make it offline but you need to download/pirate elsewhere what do you say then?
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The splash screens this time around are really nice
Cuz he is a gunlancer 

pretty nice wallpaper
the only better kind of wallpaper is some anime bullshit positioned like it holds Thaemine or Echidna
just noticed, are those teeth?
i just oog'd (out of gold)
no more rehas
Gold is so cheap in RU
im spending this week's gold on bcs
T4 honing is free. And the ilvl to enter new raid is piss ez to achieve
2700 is a steal
playin wid my hotdog in fortnie rn
you really do forget the whales type of playerbase
The cost to hone to max ilvl right now is negligible compared to lv10 gems and relic books
-42 mil gold
Huuu, 1660 u mean ?
Yeah but 1680 is definitely not
I’m 1689 off bounds

Cus u were already 1660+ T3 i Guess
But no way u get enough T4 mats from now for 1680
1657
I mean if u were like 1620 going into t4
Then no shit

Most ppl who wanted to do hm were 1650 at least going into t4
Starting with 0 mats as 1640, it take a long time for 1680 from what i see on maxroll honing calculator
Yea ofc im mostly talking for alt new players etc
I mean. Why would new player expect to do hm week 1 when they haven’t even progged older raids
"off bounds"
proceeds to skip few years of experience, bussing and doing 18 raids a week with fuckload of characters with no gold on top of that
unless you have 6 char roster
But when you convert your unbound mats up they become bound 
and i think of a different person
Can u explain to me what other characters has to do with bound mats on ur main
Well, if u have tons of mats before T4 yea its 10x more easier
But 1640-1680 is definitely not that easy
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I hats you
Trash
Making some food. I think the other stinkers are snoozin
i can has? varkan burger?
Hate*
U can atleast transfer mats from guardian
But yea it suck
Ok good
Then those wouldn’t be bound 
I'll go eat breakfast
It didn't take long for "It's free".
you are the stinky one
you really never used any of unbound mats you get from chaos, guardians and item dismantling?
maybe not chaos
U are right if u said its easy to push 1680 if u focus one char with all these rewards from event shop, daily rewards etc etc
Kinda shocked you even know what that is.


For t4 so far? No

I sold all
Someone was honing last night and guardian stones went up to 15g
Even the saviour himself counldt pull me out
??????????????????

Well, 15g for new leapstone is really cheap
im talking absolute domination
Guardian stone is not leap stone

It’s the blue ones for armor sir
I have infinite leap stones
'infinite'
in T4 Arch Demon card sets is better to awaken than Demon Damage card sets?
idk
As in there is no way it becomes bottle neck for me fora while
no arch demon yet

o maybe brel i forget
um actually its not infinite 🤓
yeah, but they're coming ig

Berry
That's me
saviour himself coulnt pull me out of that

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ok a third person has fallen victim to ignite ivory
where people leave after g1 once they take their elixirs
...new guardian lobby simulator is some hm ivory type shit
soon
me and who?
is behemoth 1-2 learning easier or echidna? echidna g2 was HELL
we made it to mirror counter only one time
and new guardian is fucking shit as well 
R u on a rat char
New guardian is way better than bat tbh

doesn't matter if you one shot it in 1 minute it's badly designed
one of the worst parts about doing caliligos is the myriad of lightning he spawns around him, now they brought it back and made it give you uncleansable damage increase stacks like thaemine
plus garbage for front attackers
one of the worst parts about doing caliligos is the myriad of lightning he spawns around him, now they brought it back and made it give you uncleansable damage increase stacks like thaemine
you can taunt him and he'll either fly away or spin 180
i don't understand their fascination with long duration uncleansable ciritcal wound stacks
which is why u dont get hit
duhh
once again, she ain't real.
when it spawns everywhere? yeah just don't dps for like 4 seconds
and then that hitmaster breaker will have 70m dps at the end
There are literal gaps inside
NVM SHE REAL AS FUCK
wait are these balls
no?
too bad you don't have X-Ray vision!!!!
Says the idiot having problem with echidna. The easiest raid
becuase you cleared it first try
dumbass mf
also i meant skull
Finally
took so long
i don't have any other chars brother
rmt
im still trying 😔
You soon 
define rat char first
Didn’t have trouble with it 
I think it took me ~2 months? def missed some days
Do u have full trans and t4 gems
At least its a decent minigame
on your first try?
There is a diff between first try and only making it to mirror counter once idiot
That’s a big jump
U did there
it's literally not
nope, nobody who's sane and plays for some few hours doesn't have that. It's just those who play for 24/7 with no life lol
it's a learning party and because we don't know the general patterns we keep getting charmed
chuan had full trans los30 full gems maxed gear 6'4 6 figures no rmt f2p
so,,,
like unless you did it first try shut up
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1640, 27 flowers, 40 elixirs, full event t3 gems with only two t3 9s converted into t4 7s
so yes
it is my main
Ok
27f is ratstare
and it is "rat" by standarts of someone close to 1690 obv
I mean I'm 50f and I just started 
you actually gave up wtf
50y.o FEMALE? 
Hi baby
yesterday it took us 10 minutes to do guardian
today it's 7,5 minutes
hanu at ilvl with one dude doing fucking nothing takes like 6 at worst
and hanu I consider one of the more annoying guardians
yesterday it took us 10 minutes to do guardian
today it's 7,5 minutes
hanu at ilvl with one dude doing fucking nothing takes like 6 at best
and hanu I consider one of the more annoying guardians
its new content isnt it
yesterday it took us 10 minutes to do guardian
today it's 7,5 minutes
hanu at ilvl with one dude doing fucking nothing takes like 6 at best
and hanu I consider one of the more annoying guardians
ofc u guys r gonna be worse at it
i just did it like 5x on first day cus i was bored
parry mechanic is dogshit mechanic with no clear timing indicator
time to play sekiro nioh dark souls and elden ring then
not touching that ty
why
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literally gyatted up games

omg more korean girls dancing
I did not
Seen and heard frfr
been there done that ahh
why would i want to
i'd like to have casual content remaining casual and leave hm raids for tryhards

That is rat behind belief… 27 flower is crazy
it is casual
hm raids are the real fun
youre just underleveled
get some flowers youll nuke it
im literally
at ilvl 
yesterday it took us 10 minutes to do guardian
today it's 7,5 minutes
hanu at ilvl with one dude doing fucking nothing takes like 6 at worst
and hanu I consider one of the more annoying guardians
6 min guardian is crazy…
but what about "cat"
im getting underlined upright 
idk?
and all people are upright so hard to tell anyone's slacking
Argeos takes me like 3-4 minites in match-making

u never post ss of mvp

Need more Blahaj
Can I int and lose on Primal Island and still get the island soul? 
ill try to use roar as parry indicator
In a 6 min guardian bro. I can kill it faster if the other 2 dps were afk
Yes but lower chance and much slower earn
happy for you
u dont count chuan
mr 126 flowers perfect 40 set
1680
max gems
los30
two cars
mansion
6'10
I’m not even close to max gems u idiot
Chuan's so l33t he already has Lightning Breath 30
200k salary
Earn doesnt matter. I just need and island soul and its between Primal and Yearning 
Honestly, Yearning allegedly got nerfed

Berry is describing nova but he is 4 10 not 6 10
99/100?
98, but my other 1 is Lailai island
timed but an easy go
theres 101
I still need Lailai and Moko
im happy you don't need to go through the newbie experience when you need to learn thaemine, echidna, behemoth, and all of a sudden only one of your characters brings any reasonable amount of gold cause the second one won't be accepted into thae lobby cause it's beyond rat 
Just got moko today
you only need 100 for rewards tho
ya
im happy you don't need to go through the newbie experience when you need to learn thaemine, echidna, behemoth, and all of a sudden only one of your characters brings any reasonable amount of gold cause the second one won't be accepted into thae lobby cause it's beyond rat 
im happy you don't need to go through the newbie experience when you need to learn thaemine, echidna, behemoth, and all of a sudden only one of your characters brings any reasonable amount of gold cause the second one won't be accepted into thae lobby cause it's beyond rat 
im just here to complain tbh, I'm thankful for the info on parry mechanic and I'll try to be better

ok, I go park my slayer on yearning 
im happy you don't need to go through the newbie experience when you need to learn thaemine, echidna, behemoth, and all of a sudden only one of your characters brings any reasonable amount of gold cause the second one won't be accepted into thae lobby cause it's beyond rat 
So I'm not exactly piimpollo 2.0
he'll roar and then you press and it blocks
as for the dash
that's just when he starts moving towards u
I think ur closer to invicinlade than pimpollo
they told u its weapon quality? 
The sense of irony makes you NOT pimpollo
he kinda pimpollo deez nuts
isnt that just your ability to read
what class do you play
I play Aero
Did u not use the free weapon quality taps
om
How u don’t have 80
lil aero

Idk, unlucky i guess










