ancient tundra
Ayooo
#lost-ark-discussions
frosty coyote
should i be asking stereotypical "new player what class to pick questions" here or in the help section?
uncut stratus
ok so i did math
if i transfer the 3 pieces that are already 1630/1635
ill be over 1630 so i can adv hone the t3 ones
and maybe make some bank off of hm thae and echidna
nova garden
should i be asking stereotypical "new player what class to pick questions" here ...
help channel, you'll get ignored or trolled in other channels
frosty coyote
help channel, you'll get ignored or trolled in other channels
understood thank you.
still lintel
still lintel
rigid aurora
new player guys what class should i pick
still lintel
Uninstall
rigid aurora
shes a minor
geek caught lacking?!
west pivot
i hate transcending
forgot to do it last week so I spent 3 hours doing it yesterday on 3 chars...
west pivot
still lintel
geek caught lacking?!
90% of anime fans are caught lacking if you check anime age
9000 year old loli tho 
nova garden
90% of anime fans are caught lacking if you check anime age
i just go off depicted age
still lintel
Part of the 10% going after the 9000year old lolis
nova garden
im part of the 10% gigachads
you play blue archive so you have no power here
nova garden
rigid aurora
i should get back into it tho 
lime dove
i hate transcending
This is the most ass system
Anyone telling u elixir is worse is capping
Its uncontested
100% the worst
Shit drains ur gold and takes hours
nova garden
maybe someday i'll unlock trans
lime dove
lime dove
Argos dont count
nova garden
lime dove
What bout vykas kakul and brel
nova garden
i know m1 clown
lime dove
cursive ruin
can i get a cock in chat
west pivot
its 60k silver per attempt
cursive ruin
u mean elixir?
lime dove
west pivot
to craft the mat that allows you to do another attempt
i spent like 120k gold yesterday
cursive ruin
oa
lime dove
Huh
cursive ruin
darkfire?
lime dove
U cant craft darkfire
cursive ruin
west pivot
darkfire does the unlock
west pivot
its that vial and tradable mat
low nebula
endure
cursive ruin
low nebula
if you 6 chaos its like 1m il silver right?
nova garden
U were a raider man
i did argos and valtan day 1. that's all
turbid oriole
@rigid aurora is the 3s worth it
rigid aurora
if you have a regular 3 no
if you have a quest 2 not really unless ur shit is years old
rigid aurora
if u have nothing yeah
cursive ruin
specifically t2 blue ones
indigo flax
nova garden
fuck this game bro
urban obsidian
actually 4 role champion
also it was top
i just took ss too early
caps bb didnt swap yet
valid turtle
uncut stratus
surely you get 40 trans levels next week
turbid oriole
bus me echidna
turbid oriole
hm voldis?
i havent played in 3 months
wide patrol
@turbid oriole2the duck itself?
turbid oriole
ill come but imma die
wide patrol
yes its cute
turbid oriole
<@543581295683567657>2the duck itself?
what do you think
turbid oriole
nova garden
wide patrol
@thorn sluice who am I ? who are you 😮
thorn sluice
wide patrol
IM THE ALMIGHTY duck man
turbid oriole
wide patrol
im very newbie at this game datz why im unknown :X
compact crest
any have same ping with me ?
left sierra
surely you get 40 trans levels next week
? i have one piece left
i dont have behe done so just armor
i just need 1 more week for dark fires
uncut stratus
do you have enough dark fires?
neon cedar
Very interested to see what this means 
uncut stratus
urban obsidian
wait my arcana is bouta be juiced asf
scenic rose
so instead of express event on regular server, they want us to play on ignite and transfer over?
or are we getting a similar express event as well?
distant charm
I think both
left sierra
free esther on igniter or im not playing
distant charm
they confirmed the express event
scenic rose
they confirmed the express event
on reddit?
distant charm
On the video a month ago
left sierra
wtf is luck elixir set
neon cedar
Ignite servers actually seem really interesting this time around tbh
left sierra
full +10s?
scenic rose
thatneeds to come to reuglar serer
scenic rose
we can only transfer 1?
fresh flint
yeah
uncut stratus
Are the gems and shit bound?
wind dagger
neon cedar
Its basically a free char for vets and a buffed roster for newbies
uncut stratus
What free char do I wanna make
neon cedar
Looks kinda nice tbh
uncut stratus
Do I actually make 6 SHs
fresh flint
one character gets transfered, the others get deleted
wind dagger
I wanna make a breaker
uncut stratus
My artist is 1520
fresh flint
Gold doesnt transfer over
fresh flint
uncut stratus
I NEED GEMS
uncut stratus
SHOW
keen copper
I hope the t4 stuff isn’t bound to that char on transfer
fresh flint
fresh flint
1620 Gift^
uncut stratus
HOLY
uncut stratus
HUHHHHH
fresh flint
20 leg cards
uncut stratus
T4 6s and 7s
fresh flint
200k gold, 50m silver
cursive ruin
i don't know what tarnsfer means
fresh flint
Dude im so hyped wtf
cursive ruin
chris what is this
left sierra
wait
uncut stratus
What char do I make bruh
cursive ruin
is this rewards for putting express on a 1620 character?
uncut stratus
Idkkk
neon cedar
Ngl. even the little things like only having solo/nm raids available make things so much easier
left sierra
i can take these thingies to my main?
uncut stratus
^^^
fresh flint
chris what is this
Ignite server rewards once you transfer your character over.
left sierra
cursive ruin
Ignite server rewards once you transfer your character over.
ohhhhhhhh
left sierra
shit better be roster
fresh flint
i can take these thingies to my main?
Yes, you can transfer your new character from Ignite - > Main server.
left sierra
wintry depot
imagine if people would read the actual article
fresh flint
And we get the new yoz jar
wintry depot
pls dont tlel me its only the merchant cards
it is
uncut stratus
Yes, you can transfer your new character from Ignite - > Main server.
Can I transfer the gems tho
left sierra
better be able to
uncut stratus
I’d assume so
fresh flint
better be able to
I think so, If it isnt categorized as special armor
uncut stratus
Since they said this is what we can’t transfer
uncut stratus
I wouldn’t say it’s special
left sierra
i mean these items come along with your character
doesnt say you can take them off that character
fresh flint
I'm so pumped to make a full fledged wardancer finally man
left sierra
worn current
uncut stratus
What char do I make 
it has to be female
urban obsidian
fresh flint
im deciding btwn db or wd
urban obsidian
I have a 1610 db <:SMadge:915409526457520150>
artist
uncut stratus
Which is why idk if I want to make a db
urban obsidian
fresh flint
Then make your artist
lucid fractal
Youoz jar bar
lucid fractal
<:PogMe:832067446197190656>
Wow 18ms mozu I want that
lucid fractal
ignite dn
uncut stratus
I almost told you to do something that would get me banned
Because nobody likes you
left sierra
it is
the merchant pack is called Fledgling Adventure's Legendary Card Selection Pack
this ones destiny not adventurer
fresh flint
SO PUMPED
left sierra
maybe it has beat 🍚
fresh flint
neon cedar
What to make, what to make 
left sierra
no donsnt look like it
uncut stratus
@urban obsidian I’m making an SH on NA ignite
urban obsidian
why
fresh flint
What to make, what to make <:Hmm:1043294475000225872>
Should I make db or wd 
urban obsidian
fuuuck no
neon cedar
Should I make db or wd <:owo:1114723410606575666>
DB 
Do I make glaive or gl
fresh flint
This event is better than anticipated, so I think they will be an updated form of card packs tbh
cursive ruin
i love hanu
fresh flint
DB <:WICKEDAYAYA:1245268443331166218>
Do I make glaive or gl
Glaive looks cool af, but GL looks fun as well
wintry depot
no
left sierra
pog
wintry depot
was edited
left sierra
yes
wintry depot
fresh flint
No, only up to tower
wintry depot
no solo thae
left sierra
huh
wintry depot
xDD
uncut stratus
@urban obsidian do g4 thae with me 
fresh flint
Thae + is only available when you transfer to regular servers.
neon cedar
Glaive looks cool af, but GL looks fun as well
But which is the problem 
Maybe one na and one of eu
fresh flint
But which is the problem <a:roll:1001421386725736548> Maybe one na and one of eu
Honestly, gunlancer
left sierra
looked like echnida and above is only avaialble when tgransfered
fresh flint
Thae+
uncut stratus
So basically do up to ivory? Then just hone until 1620 and transfer?
wintry depot
tahe is available in ignite
left sierra
lkamO
lucid fractal
This on T4?
wintry depot
beast can you read the article ?
lucid fractal
I don't read
wintry depot
yeah, it shows
lucid fractal
wintry depot
prob
burnt tree
why would u need any higher for normals
burnt tree
plus the tier 4 gems are better once u gear transfer anyway
urban obsidian
@dull obsidian 
11cspm garen
burnt tree
yeah thats ok just replace them from chaos/cubes in tier 4 
fresh flint
yes
burnt tree
yeah
fresh flint
only 1
left sierra
burnt tree
u can make 6 but only 1 can be transfered out
lucid fractal
how many characters can you transfer tho
? tranafer where
left sierra
? tranafer where
to korea
fresh flint
oh shit mokoko event soon
left sierra
zerogoldkoko event
lucid fractal
read the fkin article beast
where is it
fresh flint
go play league mizu
lucid fractal
⚰️
left sierra
Item Level 1580 - 1620
Gear upgrade cost - 50% discount (Shards & Silver)
burnt tree
lost ark website
wintry depot
go play league mizu
valid turtle
wait we can transfer the ignite character to our server/
wintry depot
fuck
fresh flint
i cant tell if ur complaining about not getting enough free stuff or not
wintry depot
wrong reply
valid turtle
so its basically a free 1620?
wintry depot
wait we can transfer the ignite character to our server/
yes
burnt tree
wait we can transfer the ignite character to our server/
yes?
valid turtle
oh ok thanks game
wintry depot
so its basically a free 1620?
yes
left sierra
yes
azure valley
pretty much you have to create an alt on ignite
valid turtle
time to make another deadeye
azure valley
so you can get the xfer rewards
valid turtle
urban obsidian
you're getting TIER FOUR gems for FREE
but
valid turtle
sullen meteor
if its the same express as korea we also get t4 gems from the express
urban obsidian
^that too
valid turtle
ok
urban obsidian
for all we know the gem number might not include the express gems
fresh flint
Yeah, its the transfer gift by itself which is really dope
Wait and see what the other events offer later on
valid turtle
if u transfer the character the cards dont matter
fresh flint
We still have info we're missing
valid turtle
ur saying for the new players?
like that are just starting?
not if they are playing with other ignite players
urban obsidian
just teach t he new players that theyre supposed to join other new players
boom
problem solved
valid turtle
lets face it
ignite players wont be joining any of your lobbies deathboi
so it doesnt matter
fresh flint
urban obsidian
first jumpstart
me and ishy helped a full 6 group of new guys
learn brel
we had to nin g2 3 times 
still lintel
left sierra
los 12 req to join raid
kapp
u aint getting los30 on 7 week igniter server
unless you reeally f2p gamer
neon cedar
maybe vets wont care because theyll merge back into their los30 soon enough
left sierra
fr
cursive ruin
cursive ruin
the toucher is getting touched
cursive ruin
fortune 500 before you kissed a girl
urban obsidian
nice, 500 gold from mokokos!
get fucked i got 600
cursive ruin
i'm a pimp you're a nerd i'm slicky you're sleezy
dull obsidian
get fucked I got 308,000
cursive ruin
beating you is apple II easy
fresh flint
get fucked i got 600
hope your butthole burns
azure valley
i mean you're pretty much forced to play on it
azure valley
it gives so much shit
azure valley
Relic Engraving Recipe Selection Chest x1```thats like another 300-400k
dull obsidian
you get a lvl 9 gem dmg and cd
azure valley
i mean free gems is probably whatever considering they'll probably be bound to the character
dull obsidian
highest tier
azure valley
so unless you were wanting to make another char doesn't do much for you. just means you have a t4 daily farmer
azure valley
you can, but if someone is applying to lobbies without t4 gems unless its just dmg gems thats gonna be a gatekept angle
scenic rose
do u guys think we can day 1 1620 or proly need some gold farm
urban obsidian
theres always gonna "be a g0"
bro
if its not gems
theyll be gatekept bc 150 roster
like
?
ppl wont even look at their gems
indigo flax
dam the ignite servers are juicy
buoyant wagon
Forget Gate 0, theres Gate -1 that is called dead game
buoyant wagon
Of course there’s not enough new players
Who the fuck would want to play this game in 2024
The game is a known quantity at this point
Everything bad about it (and a lot of it there is) is well known
queen grail
buoyant wagon
Mmos with very few exceptions all struggle to gain new players in the middle of their lifetime
high fog
@urban obsidian imagine
urban obsidian
<@420339298781495297> imagine
whens it my turn
queen grail
<@420339298781495297> imagine
@nova garden Ban him.
scenic rose
you can transfer the whole roster to a server
u can, just wait till game to die more and then force server merge
dull obsidian
Yea, but, you're also a virgin <:WEIRD:929546342307598429>
Correct
high fog
It’s not even a gold earner
dull obsidian
what has become of thae busses 
high fog
It was a tragedy
buoyant wagon
queen grail
what has become of thae busses <a:saddies:1162883427570298914>
Imagine, you bus, you get 300k drops each day from mokokok, and still, your poor with no 6x1650 roster.
Clearly you're selling the gold.
Someone ban him.
indigo flax
what are these packs
are these the ones with los cards from merchants
dam
i dont need any of those 
urban obsidian
kind oriole
ok what character create on ignite?
indigo flax
but ofc its not for me ment for new players
kind oriole
eternal vapor
do u guys think we can day 1 1620 or proly need some gold farm
they said 2 weeks
eternal vapor
people saying 2 weeks*
fresh flint
urban obsidian
hot goth girl
fresh flint
queen grail
@buoyant wagon Just 
like all the other filthy whales in here, like @sand marsh
still lintel
new pillows aquirred
fresh flint
is it a body pillow
still lintel
just 4 normal 
fresh flint
wat color
still lintel
white with random patterns on?
blissful rose
boobs pattern?
uncut stratus
Chris Chris
fresh flint
ulti ulti
blissful rose
still lintel
why would the color of the pillow matter when you put a cover on it?
uncut stratus
Do you celebrate the 4th of July
lucid fractal
dn pattern
fresh flint
Do you celebrate the 4th of July
no
still lintel
also if i ever get a body pillow it would be the long snake one
blissful rose
so what pattern does ur cover have then
queen grail
fresh flint
Have you watched jjk s2
uhmmm
indigo flax
jjk s2 was wild
fresh flint
lemme see
still lintel
hopefully fucked it
still lintel
indigo flax
that looks comfy but not comfy
bronze geode
so is the hyper awakening and free leg skin set happening or not? the original article is 404 now
queen grail
No way you don't know what that is, you weeb.
queen grail
so is the hyper awakening and free leg skin set happening or not? the original a...
Free leg skin? Wut.
still lintel
Anime Girl My Dress-Up Darling Marin Kitagawa Hugging Body Pillow Case 59"x19" Double-Sided Printed Uncensored Peach Skin Dakimakura for Otaku
blissful rose
queen grail
Anime Girl My Dress-Up Darling Marin Kitagawa Hugging Body Pillow Case 59"x19" D...
At this point, just buy a sex doll and call it quits on the bloodline 
still lintel
they have a picture with customers
fresh flint
Have you watched jjk s2
Turns out I never did, wtf
uncut stratus
then I can’t send you this meme
still lintel
still lintel
<:hm:1090966021986340944> At this point, just buy a sex doll and call it quits o...
but body pillows are better and cheaper
queen grail
but body pillows are better and cheaper <:pepeglad:586128491184128031>
Better? 
azure valley
weebs 
still lintel
Better? <:HUH:1001018622061334558>
wont be a doll of my waifu so
kind geyser
Eternity? Wuts this
azure valley
s3 bozo jar
weak moat
loud gazelle
oof, shards are ultra expensive to force
queen grail
whale
bronze geode
how do you have 213m silver but no shards? dafuq
turbid oriole
nice card xp
lucid fractal
HI AM I GETTING BODY PILLOW SNAKE BEFORE T4 AND LOST ARK GIRLFRIEND
thorn sluice
HI AM I GETTING BODY PILLOW SNAKE BEFORE T4 AND LOST ARK GIRLFRIEND
cursive ruin
what compels a max roster lwc30 lv10 gem bard to do 21% buff in ivory nm?
sand flare
yeah
turbid oriole
HI AM I GETTING BODY PILLOW SNAKE BEFORE T4 AND LOST ARK GIRLFRIEND
did ssomebody say snake body pillow
lucid fractal
when you don't even say
thorn sluice
what compels a max roster lwc30 lv10 gem bard to do 21% buff in ivory nm?
People move out of the buff
lucid fractal
my name
cursive ruin
People move out of the buff
dude
lucid fractal
has the memories gone are you feeling numb?
cursive ruin
you literally cannot have 20% if you just use your other buff alone
queen grail
lucid fractal
Would
lucid fractal
loud gazelle
so whats everyone making for ignite servers
buoyant wagon
lucid fractal
so whats everyone making for ignite servers
GS
queen grail
so whats everyone making for ignite servers
lucid fractal
reaper is gatekeep
dense abyss
robust birch
I look like that irl
loud gazelle
I have been enjoying the faster swift classes lately, Im thinking a mayhem berserker, wont if they are any good these days
robust birch
Make a berserker
lucid fractal
^
buoyant wagon
or you’ll end up like chuan
buoyant wagon
azure valley
or you’ll end up like chuan
chuan syndrome
loud gazelle
Ok what do you guys recommend. I have been enjoying slayer, aero, scrapper, soul eater
buoyant wagon
chuan syndrome
azure valley
deathboi a coupon clipper too?
loud gazelle
for whatever reason i never make duplicate classes, kinda feel like its a waste. I like to experience new stuff
wind dagger
coupon clipper?
azure valley
coupon chuan
azure valley
sitting on millions of gold and pinching pennies to cheap out on consumables
lucid fractal
im ngl i picked up the most random ass choices there but i might have cooked
cooked dust
buoyant wagon
coupon chuan and discount deathboi
lucid fractal
sounds like artist
loud gazelle
Oh I hear you, I just pref the variety of playstyles and like to have 6 different classes for main 6
turbid oriole
I look like that irl
come over
queen grail
Do I look like you? Whale.
queen grail
loud gazelle
I have 4 1620's, and 2 1580's. So ignite is perfect to get another 1620 for me.
lucid fractal
what does this one option at the right do ?
sand flare
queen grail
If your point is all alts needs 10's then that's pepega @sand marsh
loud gazelle
I run all 7's on alts and am usually fine
queen grail
You don't need a mix of 9/10's for 1620 content you 🥔
Also, my main is 1650 so pretty much clear for Aegir 
Not even sure If I'm going to bother with it first week tho.
The game is about having fun also, not playing the most sweaty ultra optimal with your 4x Paladin please UwU carry me Whale Dps Friends
mystic basin
what does this one option at the right do ?
basically it move all your eixiting points to the effect abbove it for everything
queen grail
@wintry depot How's it going with Behem? 
azure valley
i do
queen grail
how is this SE class balanced
nothing in this game is balanced.
Just play what you enjoy.
azure valley
i mean if you have elixirs/trans done, a 1620 isnt much different from a 1630
wintry depot
<@212378747293270026> How's it going with Behem? <:Hmmm:792261795603152916>
done, doing thae now
lucid fractal
basically it move all your eixiting points to the effect abbove it for everythin...
im fuming
queen grail
done, doing thae now
Ok.
Well, let me know when you want to go, I only have one gold run left so no rush, I'm going to take a shower 
@wintry depot
wintry depot
prob tomorrow
or something
idk
or sunday
or monday
or tuesday
told oyu to not wait for us
cursive ruin
so whats everyone making for ignite servers
fmh se
lucid fractal
vern gyat
lucid fractal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453407079517126666/1261430471997526067/ezgif-6-dde4785d5c.gif
urban obsidian
OP champ = win game
robust birch
Interview this 
urban obsidian
we might do our 3c5 after this
did you see ishy
dull obsidian
have an interview at 4:30
oh wtf
dull obsidian
uni interview?
urban obsidian
uni interview?
!!!
urban obsidian
thorn sluice
Well, let me know when you want to go, I only have one gold run left so no rush,...
Shower 
first of the week ?
rigid aurora
i was sleep deprived and knocked out
dull obsidian
you either 4c4 hm or 3c5 nm on your artist
both require customers to counter
having no crisis again in t4
urban obsidian
dull obsidian
saddies
urban obsidian
yeh
glacial marsh
end of last month
dull obsidian
I'LL NEVER FORGIVE THE JAPANESE
glacial marsh
urban obsidian
yo aurora is like
not fair?
lmao
she auto'd me 3 times and half my hp dissapeared
burnt tree
cringe
nova garden
burnt tree
i cant wait for vets to choose roster transfer instead of character transfer
ah yes the 
"i didnt read cause im too smart" bozos
midnight marlin
cause theyre stupid
turbid oriole
I'LL NEVER FORGIVE THE JAPANESE
@ember tinsel
midnight marlin
oh
bold aspen
thats new skins right ? or we had that already ? 
midnight marlin
new
burnt tree
thats new skins right ? or we had that already ? <:sus:1233419406558892124>
its one jar tap nothing special
u also get the fabrics for it
bright whale
.
bold aspen
its one jar tap nothing special
idc if its 1 jar i want new skins 
burnt tree
new skins will likely be the 2023 Halloween skins
midnight marlin
and new yoz
bold aspen
yoz all i care about
dull obsidian
even with shit uptime
bold aspen
midnight marlin
<:KyaruWoah:1099713046517133433> even with shit uptime
carried by your party kotpog
dull obsidian
carried by your party kotpog
queen grail
Shower <:pog:1111142835182391366> first of the week ?
Don't be jealous just because we have running hot water in our house and you have to go outside and hose yourself down with the garden hose.
queen grail
told oyu to not wait for us
Arna don't want to do Ivory with me even.
thorn sluice
Racist
queen grail
Ok.
queen grail
Racist
I didn't blame your race, I'm just saying since you're poor and living in the wilderness you damn caveman
midnight marlin
shouldnt be showering anyway
queen grail
midnight marlin
you dont want to be washed now, do you?
left sierra
do i need an open char slot
thorn sluice
Why so toxic
left sierra
it doesnt say does it
burnt tree
ew
thorn sluice
bold aspen
blissful rose
Thaemine from wish
lucid fractal
@mystic basin
burnt tree
bro missed the episode thaemine is Katana boi now
queen grail
<:Smadge:1053832505029034044>
burnt tree
https://tenor.com/view/water-jet-in-the-face-car-wash-dumb-getcha-ya-gif-1632836...
no seed or gold ember today 
thorn sluice
https://tenor.com/view/water-jet-in-the-face-car-wash-dumb-getcha-ya-gif-1632836...
That’s literally my father when I was young
queen grail
no seed or gold ember today <a:Saddies:1144834528419004577>
I've gotten zero lucky 
It is what it is.
burnt tree
I've gotten zero lucky <:MokokoSeed:1121162879274602656> <:shruge:11003048471835...
but im not rich like u
left sierra
same
burnt tree
bruh joker movie is a fking musical <@888771554631118849> <:concerned:1255411663...
thought u already knew that. it was announced it would be a musical years ago
glad depot
queen grail
but im not rich like u
Raid more.
blissful rose
thought u already knew that. it was announced it would be a musical years ago
nah I found out yday I debated going to a cinema... I changed my mind
lucid fractal
queen grail
it has returned
burnt tree
queen grail
Fun times.
lucid fractal
<:deadge:1046748734807093330>
you gonna lose your mentality with this one
still lintel
@dawn yacht
lucid fractal
the ick
dull obsidian
<@178351236821549056> om
Who did BLG lose to?
GenG?
its nice that 2 thaemines give 50k
dull obsidian
dull obsidian
O
nocturne cypress
👀 
scenic rose
200k gold for transferring 1620 over
is that enough to do trans
dull obsidian
not really
urban obsidian
ishy
dull obsidian
maybe if you're giga lucky
supple parrot
not really
On the one char, yes. Cuz u start with lv3 on each piece
dull obsidian
supple parrot
low nebula
👀 <:HUH:1012917714706235472> <:PeepoYes:624458323588284416>
without books still cancer
fresh flint
@neon cedar what do
cursive ruin
@thorn sluice Don't be jealous just because we have running hot water in our house and you have to go outside and hose yourself down with the garden hose. 
low nebula
<@202959015641219072> what do
do enless chaos til its removed
fresh flint
do enless chaos til its removed
Why would I do that
thorn sluice
<@1128440836204540004> Don't be jealous just because we have running hot water ...
Why did you copy pasta this
cursive ruin
Why did you copy pasta this <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
yes
thorn sluice
You live in the piramids shut up
thorn sluice
