lost-ark-discussions

[stark thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1180956388449599548/1290661554626494536/fat-horse_2.gif

[turbid oriole]

https://www.reddit.com/r/2meirl4meirl/s/W1eoYtYRbM

[midnight marlin]

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transcribe it

oh

uhm

[gleaming pendant]

yea almost like

[toxic tinsel]

...

[gleaming pendant]

someone turned on

the downtime

[tawny lion]

[toxic tinsel]

mod abuse avoiding slowmode

[gleaming pendant]

MOD ABUSE!!!

[midnight marlin]

there is no slowmode

[gleaming pendant]

THERES ONLY 5 PPL IN THIS CHAT

[turbid oriole]

[gleaming pendant]

WHY DO OUR PERMS

GET REMOVED?

WHY CANT WE EMBED

THIS CHAT IS NOT EVEN ALIVE ANYWAY

https://tenor.com/dtl5wvrFGdS.gif

[tawny lion]

The only time we need slow mode is when chuans cousins all come

[midnight marlin]

yeah, like you

[wind dagger]

Lost Ark being down means I have time to play Wuthering Waves.

[dawn yacht]

which is why we should have perms

[turbid oriole]

[gleaming pendant]

well ihave it?

i don't see the problem

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/251211223012474880/1287846154947661926/9-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[wind dagger]

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/qeliameow-cat-paw-cats-paw-dance-gif-3807241812430059413

[dawn yacht]

you are not the whole chat are you

[gleaming pendant]

honestly you all can talk to gravvy about it

if you all really want it bacck

it was removed because ppl used to spam really sussy gifs durin maint last year

[tawny lion]

Only Mr manager can ping gravvy

[gleaming pendant]

and it hasn't changed since then

[wind dagger]

What people? They're not here anymore

[gleaming pendant]

never said they are still here

if you CAN READ

[tawny lion]

Wait why can’t I react to peoples chat anymore

[wind dagger]

I know just saying

[dawn yacht]

its been a while since he had no perms while maintenance so why remove them now ?

[gleaming pendant]

[rugged lynx]

everyone blocked you

[midnight marlin]

its part of slowmode

[gleaming pendant]

cause 9h

general is on fire

[tawny lion]

[gleaming pendant]

most of the time

[tawny lion]

Can’t even react to myself

[stark thicket]

[gleaming pendant]

and this chat is just collateral

[rugged lynx]

blocked himself gg

[dawn yacht]

nuke general and ban everyone there and give us perms back

[gleaming pendant]

ask gravvy or let him know, if you really want it changed

slowmode was changed from here

recently

used to have like 5s here

[dawn yacht]

[wind dagger]

I have time to workout with my dumbells, surely I'll gain 10 KG of muscle weight

[gleaming pendant]

i mean any dumbbells is better than nothing

[tawny lion]

Do slow push ups and use ur protein powder

[midnight marlin]

didnt gravvy say commod was in charge of slowmode

[wind dagger]

[low nebula]

what to do today?

[dense abyss]

wait - downtime is 20 hours or 9 hours?

[low nebula]

[midnight marlin]

9 hours expected

[dense abyss]

https://tenor.com/bWpXv.gif

[toxic tinsel]

29hrs

[wind dagger]

Rest in rest

Will login to WuWa soon

[toxic tinsel]

ok icy

[gleaming pendant]

i will smack you

if you misinfo

[low nebula]

smack twice

if true

[toxic tinsel]

i didnt say til what

[low nebula]

throne and liberty is not available in your region

[toxic tinsel]

where r u

[low nebula]

ukraine

[toxic tinsel]

ah

yeah ukraine russia will be like that

[low nebula]

fix when

[toxic tinsel]

[gleaming pendant]

really?

[dense abyss]

use vpn

ez

[low nebula]

lost ark was not available in ukraine on release cos publishing right were sold to ru
but than one day silently they just removed the region lock

[gleaming pendant]

its not avail in my region either

[midnight marlin]

i need new headphones

mine literally just broke

[toxic tinsel]

headphones broke gif

[gleaming pendant]

what brand

[midnight marlin]

astro a10

[gleaming pendant]

wow rich

[midnight marlin]

is it

aren't these dirt cheap

[gleaming pendant]

idk

i am randomly

guessing

LOL

[toxic tinsel]

mod abuuse

stop bussing slowmode

[midnight marlin]

then just talk faster

[bitter lichen]

think i treat myself to some macarons

been a good boy this week

[toxic tinsel]

macaronis

good boy @bitter lichen

[bitter lichen]

macaron

[gleaming pendant]

what

can

you

do

if

italk

like

that

gonna

cry

[low nebula]

[gleaming pendant]

?

time to find new wallpaper

[toxic tinsel]

no :c

[stark thicket]

[toxic tinsel]

stop jealous

[bitter lichen]

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/hoshino-takanashi-blue-archive-ikyuo-doodle-dance-hoshino-gif-16704593570888752037

[toxic tinsel]

[wind dagger]

At the moment I am updating WuWa

What else is there to do when LA in maintenance

[stark thicket]

no jealous at all

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/hoshino-takanashi-blue-archive-ikyuo-doodle-dance-hoshino-gif-16704593570888752037

[toxic tinsel]

write a poem

[bitter lichen]

study how to draw human anatomy

[toxic tinsel]

[bitter lichen]

learn about the mitochondria powerhouse of the cell

go for a walk

eat some macaron

[toxic tinsel]

maraconi'

[uncut stratus]

Gonna

Suck

[gleaming pendant]

give you up

never gonna let you down

[uncut stratus]

That

[gleaming pendant]

never gonna turn around

and

hurt youuuuuu

[uncut stratus]

Conk

[wind dagger]

Last time I have drawn a face was in high school

[wind dagger]

almost done updating

[bitter lichen]

draw a face

[wind dagger]

no

I have an appointment at the barber in two hours

[gleaming pendant]

damn, now even ryujinx

is dead

[wind dagger]

gonna look fresh to rizz girls

[toxic tinsel]

lost ark gf

[uncut stratus]

[gleaming pendant]

you a lost ark gf?

[uncut stratus]

@gleaming pendant Mod abuse berry some more

[toxic tinsel]

meow

[uncut stratus]

Lost ark femboy more like

[wind dagger]

A Lost Ark girlfriend would be amazing, but I am no simp

[ancient tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/why-you-always-lying-meme-vine-funny-nicholas-fraser-gif-4530516

Lying

[bitter lichen]

[still lintel]

Winning roll on item and dude that lost the roll begs in whisper for it

[toxic tinsel]

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/chonky-cat-chonk-cats-cute-tickle-gif-22976826

[toxic tinsel]

[bitter lichen]

dumb

[vagrant cradle]

[fresh flint]

Did they reverse extend the maintenance

[toxic tinsel]

mhmm

[fresh flint]

How they go from 20 hours to 9

[stark thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1180956388449599548/1290661554626494536/fat-horse_2.gif

[fresh flint]

[toxic tinsel]

prob 20 as unsure then 9 when they knew

[stark thicket]

look its jesse

[toxic tinsel]

even got an increase in rewards from 20->9

and people still complain. I would hate to be sg

they could give a leg selection pack and people would be like uhmmm! I have los30 this is useless!

[fresh flint]

Yeah I’m not shocked

[toxic tinsel]

why is ashtarot so /,,,,,,.

[stark thicket]

[toxic tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-lost-ark-gif-25013326

o right

[gilded forge]

Why this game has no players

[rugged lynx]

dead game

[toxic tinsel]

game died

[meager hill]

1 leg selection? Make that 60

[still lintel]

slowmode?

[gilded forge]

Its fun game though, no? Maybe others think no

[toxic tinsel]

theres a maint LOL

[rugged lynx]

people quit because brel released, or I think so

[still lintel]

no slowmode but link perms removed

[rugged lynx]

they never bothered to come back

[gilded forge]

The old brel make people quit game ?

[rugged lynx]

pretty sure

[bitter lichen]

and smilegate still havent learned

[gilded forge]

[bitter lichen]

[toxic tinsel]

yeah on release people were too shit (still are) and quit

the game has very few difficult fights so it doesn't train the player for the future

[gilded forge]

Which is the difficult fight ?

[toxic tinsel]

aegir / brel2 hopefully switches this up though

[gilded forge]

Its brel ?

[toxic tinsel]

thaemine

echidna I suppose

[ebon snow]

As long as my gf manages to clear the raids with controller they're considered easy

[toxic tinsel]

xdd

[gilded forge]

Eh I won’t play anymore like when its aegir and brel coming out if nobody else to play with

[toxic tinsel]

an artist may paint a masterpiece but you would never call painting easy

[gilded forge]

I like this game but even a good game with nobody to play with is sad

[stark thicket]

i quit when clown released.. going from 8 -> 4 man raid when not having a full 8 man roster kinda sucked

[gleaming pendant]

nah aegir and brel is still

snooze level

compared to thaemine

if you compare the learning curve

[toxic tinsel]

brel hm isnt tho

[fresh flint]

Then make some friends??

[toxic tinsel]

o learning curve ya true

[gilded forge]

Maybe the game should become easier, idk

[gleaming pendant]

thae g4 learning curve

is jsut a different beast

[toxic tinsel]

maybe people shouldnt be so shit?

[gilded forge]

Some people doesnt want to play the hard raid only the easy one ?

[toxic tinsel]

youre 1610 in thaemine and 1630 in hardmode you should know how to play at the very least like holy

all this handholding at endgame is sickening

[gilded forge]

Eh it’s hard to find people when its so few people playing maybe

[fresh flint]

Okay time to uninstall then! Give gems.

[gilded forge]

Most of these players afk/don’t use or look chat

[toxic tinsel]

because theyre prepping for t4

lol?

[gilded forge]

The handholding is the events and stuff for new players ?

I guess its the only way, if not then new player really has 0 people to play with, nobody is doing the tier2/early tier3 contents anymore

[toxic tinsel]

no it's the idea that the raids should be easier

[gilded forge]

Oh ok

[toxic tinsel]

endgame raids should get progressively more difficult

the issue therein is powerpass mechanics and expresses

good for new players to reach the content but not good for them to learn the content

1610 😔 I'm gated by shards now

i wanna get into thaemine so i can do hard content

[gilded forge]

1610 souleater

[toxic tinsel]

i got one lucky mokoko and that brought me 85 to 1610

[gilded forge]

Its broken class i guess

[toxic tinsel]

you get like 50k gold from honing above 1600 alone

so the lucky is technically 150k

100k from seed then 52k ish from the honing

also got my 35set

with crit

it's bound

[still lintel]

@tardy tusk @ancient tundra https://x.com/VaatiVidya/status/1841221244055924856

[gilded forge]

[toxic tinsel]

i did solo akkange at 1585 and watched the guide for group

but idk what im gonna do o nreset

goldwise my best bet is ivory+kayhm+akkan

but I also wanna do brel with beast and co

[gilded forge]

I think you say you have thaemine unlock now ?

1610 it gives 13k gold

[toxic tinsel]

I do but im not getting accepted into thaemine at 1610 xdd

[gilded forge]

Can’t ?

[toxic tinsel]

gatekeep

[meager hill]

For the best experience, do kaya hm without klc with others at 1580, trust me

[gilded forge]

I can make you into a lobby from my group

[toxic tinsel]

I wouldnt want to int you guys

[supple parrot]

wtf no image perms

[toxic tinsel]

still studying guides

[gilded forge]

I think should be fine i guess

[supple parrot]

i mean just hone to 1620 its free

then t4 transfer ur 1640

[toxic tinsel]

shardgated

[supple parrot]

do chaos

use event shards

[toxic tinsel]

60k per piece to +18 + 100k for weap to +19

[gilded forge]

Ah its the worst

[toxic tinsel]

then prob 80k per piece to +19

[gilded forge]

Its such autoplay content

Brain 0% hands 10% annoying 100%

[toxic tinsel]

looking at 800k shards just for the deposit

[bitter lichen]

most played content

[toxic tinsel]

then probably another 200k for full honing

[gilded forge]

I guess normal mode not so much

With the environment now, many people full transcendence in it, the gradual nerfs it has recieved

And on western release we already had nerf version i guess as well

[outer tundra]

200k very far away from full honing

[toxic tinsel]

5k per at about 9% with mat back books?

[gilded forge]

I think my old friend group quit the game because of this raid

[outer tundra]

Believe me it's not enough

[wind dagger]

[gilded forge]

Thaemine kind of started downwards spiral for my old friend group that played actively

[toxic tinsel]

regardless I dont have the 800k for deposit anyway

[gilded forge]

Since g3 was too much for some to handle i guess

[toxic tinsel]

bound gold...

[gilded forge]

I was beginning to learn g4 a couple weeks ago, but I quit playing as much

[toxic tinsel]

which express?

uhm well if I get 1620 then I get 1640 for free with gear transfer

[gilded forge]

I got tired of the weekly grind to coordinate times etc with people to start raids, some scheduling conflicts are very inconvenient

[toxic tinsel]

so I'm honestly not too sure

[toxic tinsel]

but I would need a powerpass to get an alt there anyway

[gilded forge]

And then once getting into the raid having some things go wrong and it takes a while to finish

[toxic tinsel]

so I might be forced to if I dont get a pp

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/gollum-lotr-gif-10942386

[toxic tinsel]

if we get pp I might pass an alt

into express

I think it would be better long term for me because it increases my gold and material gain per week

at the cost of maybe aegir nm

but I'm too far away from that anyway

[thorn sluice]

Why 9 hours maint ?

[gilded forge]

It is ?

[toxic tinsel]

maint is 9hrs yeah

[gilded forge]

Wow

[rugged lynx]

i think they're prepping for next update, just a guess though

[echo ermine]

And that's when it's fast.

[supple parrot]

so we can go play some tnl

[toxic tinsel]

it was originally 20hrs though so 9 isnt too bad

[echo ermine]

Still bad but less bad than before D:

[gilded forge]

What is special about this week maintenance ?

[toxic tinsel]

its t4 prep

[gilded forge]

Is it phasing in / preparing the t4?

[toxic tinsel]

yeah

[echo ermine]

Preparing for next week Aegir* raid, etc

[toxic tinsel]

then t4 on oct 9th

[rugged lynx]

3mb update

[thorn sluice]

Fuck tnl, I’m playing god of war

[gilded forge]

Ah alright

[thorn sluice]

[gilded forge]

Well, its sad i guess for EUC

[toxic tinsel]

well it's either one 1640 with express or two 1640 I think ? If pp+express takes to 1640

[supple parrot]

[toxic tinsel]

not far at all

[stark thicket]

Reminds me that I have my midterms on the 8th and my bday is on the 8th

[gilded forge]

I don’t know how you play the game or want to enjoy the game but

[toxic tinsel]

I have like 8 or so selectors but I'm not even los18 with raw cards

xD

[gilded forge]

In my experience its good to have at least one current endgame latest content character

[toxic tinsel]

:o

[echo ermine]

I'm just taking my time to be honest.
I go as slow as I want, literally honed all my alts to 1540 and getting them level 3 set gear lately.
Bare minimum. Never spent a cent for progression. Best decision I made in my life.

[gilded forge]

If you can bus the latest raid releases it usually nets you a ton of gold especially while they are new

[toxic tinsel]

yes I know I will see for now I could always express on main and then pp alt without express

pp will be enough for good gold anyway

[gilded forge]

But yeah maybe this playstyle is not for everyone

[rugged lynx]

well now you can solo it

come brel with me

[toxic tinsel]

I don't like to take busses

[echo ermine]

Same

[toxic tinsel]

makes me feel like I didn't earn the clear

[gilded forge]

I’m not saying you should take them

[echo ermine]

Same 2x

[gilded forge]

If you sell them its a lot of income

[rugged lynx]

ive only bussed argos - and failed to bus them so I jailed them

[toxic tinsel]

trust me I will not be selling busses

you need to be highest ilvl + 20 or so to bus consistently

[gilded forge]

Eh, depends

[toxic tinsel]

like you're not bussing at 1630 on thaemine hard

[echo ermine]

Doesn't feel right for me if the content can't be naturally cleared without frustration, toxicity and/or gatekeeping.

[toxic tinsel]

unless you 3c5

[gilded forge]

You can do it 1630 bus

[toxic tinsel]

even then it's monkasteer

ye but nm is +10 I moreso mean on or at ilvl

[gilded forge]

4c4 is common thaemine

[toxic tinsel]

and I'm not gonna be +x of ilvl

[gilded forge]

3c5 is only for overgeared party

^

[toxic tinsel]

good players with low ping

and los/gems

ye

[fresh flint]

I had a 3c5 yesterday

[gilded forge]

In thaemine g3 nm dps check is only ~18m minimum but usually pref 20m+ for 4c4

[toxic tinsel]

and high gems / high los is in of itself an ilvl boost in a way with the damage yo uget

ye for bussing

and in general bc ppl have been playing years

[gilded forge]

I guess souleater with some budget setup can reach bus ready numbers

[echo ermine]

I finished LOS30 after 4,000+ hours, Berry.
No money involved.

[gilded forge]

But of course it depends on the player and party

[toxic tinsel]

even with high gems los or ilvl ping is still a big factor in bussing and in raids like thaemine

[echo ermine]

It's still too demanding and rare for it to even be called good though.
This is still bad for players.

[gilded forge]

I dont feel the effects of ping very much at all in this game

[toxic tinsel]

it matters 150+ imo

[gilded forge]

+1

[toxic tinsel]

I mean when I'm not in an attack and get snapshot into it then it kind of matters imo

[gilded forge]

I’m playing lately on EUC, i’m playing lowest ping 110ms average 125ms high end / spikes 200ms+ and it feels smooth

[toxic tinsel]

spikes arent consistent ping

play 200 consistent it's not fun

[echo ermine]

Not when there are things that require 1-2 seconds reaction time.

[gilded forge]

200ms even doesnt feel so bad

I’m not saying spikes as in 2-3 seconds

[toxic tinsel]

you can't dodge hammer in kay3 solo with high ping

[worn current]

My power permanently went out in my room heeeelllp

[gilded forge]

It can be 30s or so at 200+ms

[toxic tinsel]

the telegraph is instant

[gilded forge]

It just fluctuates

[toxic tinsel]

yeah if u melee

I can dash out of it and it will still hit me

[echo ermine]

Exactly. I can't imagine playing this game with even a 1-2 second delay

[gilded forge]

Its easy to dodge on high ping you can stand outside of it before it happens

The pattern has specific times where it is likely to occur and can be somewhat predicted before you even see its starting animation

[toxic tinsel]

I mean yeah but I don't think he does any actual unique animation beforehand unless I'm missing something

ye I'm not saying you cant play well on high ping it just means you get hit by a lot of things you shouldnt be hit by

you have to play differently to account for the ping

[gilded forge]

If i remember, the lack of animations is actually an indicator that he will do this pattern

[bitter lichen]

yappachino

10m best

[stark thicket]

[gilded forge]

I guess I’m having no trouble with ~125ms, playing mostly/only inferno raids

Ping in this game seems to not be so bad as other games

[toxic tinsel]

125ms is VERY different to 200+

[gilded forge]

Not quite sure why or how…

[toxic tinsel]

trust me

[gilded forge]

Sure, i play also on 200+ at times

It just depends on the time of day or how the internet is feeling

[bitter lichen]

Try pizza on 200+

[gilded forge]

I only find the game legitimately unplayable when the connection is unstable and generally showing 500ms+ in latency

[toxic tinsel]

pizza on 200 is scuffed

[echo ermine]

Tough boi. Fun solo times

[toxic tinsel]

you have to stand in the aoe

while its detonating

[gilded forge]

Which pizza ?

[toxic tinsel]

well notable ones are clown g2 and akkan g3 (I think it's g3)

[echo ermine]

Velganos does a "pizza" mechanic that goes around where you have to walk on.

[gilded forge]

I thought you were talking about Thae g3 sword pizza

[toxic tinsel]

it's probably the same

depends how fast it is

[echo ermine]

Or Argos pizza.

Yeah :>

Fun fact, I love fighting Argos.

[toxic tinsel]

i wanna learn thaemine so bad but no party accepts me

[gilded forge]

Clown pizza pattern is not bad because it is telegraphed where the safespots will be so as long as you are pacing yourself accounting for your delay, its fine

[toxic tinsel]

you have to walk into the explosion as it explodes

otherwise you will be hit and miss the next ones

[gilded forge]

Not to mention half of the playerbase is cheesing this mechanic with Innana anyways

[stark thicket]

Put it in reverse terry

[toxic tinsel]

thankfully they didnt code pizza to have its damage last til the next one

otherwise it would genuinely be impossible for high ping

[echo ermine]

When people stole your NESW 1234 spot, you go "bruuuh", die, and people ask you what you are doing.

[gilded forge]

I’m playing this raid in inferno with sometimes inverted controls on the pizza + ping and its no problem

Maybe your experience is with unstable connection not just delay

[echo ermine]

I loved doing it. No one else even knew LOL

[toxic tinsel]

200ms isnt 125ms

[gilded forge]

My connection is at the least, usually stable

[echo ermine]

SAME! ahah

[gilded forge]

I said multiple times I have played on 200ms+ for extended periods of time as well

I played on the KR server even from across the globe and had no such issues as the ones you describe

[toxic tinsel]

I mean yeah it's moreso if you miss one you miss the rest on high ping

because the stun will mean you miss the next

and you cant exactly dash through the boss

[gilded forge]

I think you can quite literally dash across the boss

But that is not a huge point of contention i guess

[toxic tinsel]

in most fights you cannot because he will block you

[gilded forge]

Right

[toxic tinsel]

I had to learn this the hard way when I tried dashing through bosses to get to a safe spot and got blocked

[gilded forge]

But g2 clown i think its different… surprising that I don’t know this for certain

[toxic tinsel]

like in valtan

I'd be surprised if it was because the boss character is still present during the mechanic and you can damage it

[gilded forge]

Halfway confident that you can spacebar through g2 boss in clown though :3

I have multiple clears DL hell clown so I should probably know this with more confidence but I dont play classes that would need to make use of this

[toxic tinsel]

theyre not bs if I'm focused but if I miss a single one due to positioning or timing then I get hit by the rest

[gilded forge]

You can fix it, its just going to require you to do something that feels off tempo from how you normally run it

[toxic tinsel]

ye but they barely work when I want them to

I had a similar issue in f25 shadespire

[urban obsidian]

is it chaos yet

[toxic tinsel]

with the boss where you have to dodge for it

[urban obsidian]

unlucky it is

@limber sluice can i have gif perms

[toxic tinsel]

gravy died

(real)

[bitter lichen]

[gilded forge]

Clown g2 is really a good raid to help people learn their push/para immune…

[toxic tinsel]

oo wait do you wanna see my internet dying earlier in g3 ivory

[gilded forge]

But I guess its not relevant anymore so now people will miss out on the experience

[toxic tinsel]

wait right no embeds

[gilded forge]

[bitter lichen]

[gilded forge]

Berry, you are playing Nights Edge or Full Moon ?

[toxic tinsel]

ne

[gilded forge]

good good 👍

Infinite damage broken class

[gleaming pendant]

yea i was on 230 last time, and now playing on 156 is kinda diff

[toxic tinsel]

gimme a few mins for this to upload then ill send the link but yeah first time it's ever happened to me my internet died mid pull and instead of disconnecting it just made the fight super weird

[gilded forge]

[toxic tinsel]

exitlag try to do anything moment

[gilded forge]

NA-W is actually more active than NA-E ?

[toxic tinsel]

it says my ping is 190 to nae so I use it and you know what it doesn't do? anything

[gilded forge]

I heard its higher activity maybe because its basically the shared server of Oceania

[ionic basin]

i play at 280 but ima say its fine, anything above 300 sucks

[toxic tinsel]

yeah but Im on nae so its a bit un4ch

could rr naw with ignite but for now nada

[ionic basin]

for high ping enjoyers like myself, i can walk into reds and walk through albions without burning my space bar

without getting punished

[toxic tinsel]

I cannot do that yet I get hit by things that dont touch me all the same

200ms is just the worst

[ionic basin]

u will get used to it

or u main swap with ignite to NAW

[toxic tinsel]

250+ you get to bs stuff 150 you live other stuff

[ionic basin]

yeah 250 is basically exploiting lmao

[toxic tinsel]

ye it'll just be annoying if anything all that time in nae feelsbad

[visual smelt]

i play anywhere from 151 to 210

[ionic basin]

i was getting 180 from perth in NAW

[visual smelt]

it's fine lol

[ionic basin]

it feels really good

[visual smelt]

without EL 210, with EL 151

[ionic basin]

made me consider swapping region but im too far in

id only buy a NAW account

[visual smelt]

just hop over

fellow perth homie

[toxic tinsel]

that's how I feel except I have 14days or so played

[ionic basin]

ayyyy

bro likes suffering like me

[visual smelt]

fuck them east coasters ehhh

cringy sydney and mebournites

[ionic basin]

yeah u gonna lose all your grind, i seen u on alot in here

[gleaming pendant]

no NAE is actually higher

playerbase

[ionic basin]

but ignite might be able to catch u up way faster

[gleaming pendant]

is just NAW timing is more spreadout

[ionic basin]

than what u have

[visual smelt]

NAE is more NA

[toxic tinsel]

yeahh idk it depends on the gold I have about 150k atm from event luck

[urban obsidian]

nae is more players in general

[visual smelt]

NAW is the rest of the world

[toxic tinsel]

and gold is the biggest gate no matter what

[urban obsidian]

its not thatt its more na

[wind dagger]

Is the game up?

[ionic basin]

minus 80-100 ping better than 150k

[toxic tinsel]

ehh it's

more like -50 at most

[urban obsidian]

i know ppl who play on 230 ping fine

its doable

[wind dagger]

ishy be like

300 ping

[ionic basin]

180 and under, plays similar, 200 to 300 plays differently

thats my personal research

[toxic tinsel]

mhm

id have about 150-170 naw and I have roughly 200-220 on nae

[ionic basin]

ur sanity or ur 150k gold

[toxic tinsel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJA4TwhyuxY o heres the vid btw @distant swallow

[ionic basin]

but NAW is more dead than NAE

but NAW has a better community

ngl

[toxic tinsel]

nae is definitely a little blehg

[gleaming pendant]

better

[ionic basin]

i was playing with bunch of dreamers for thaemine in naw, and we one tap all gates

i was suprised

they might be better than NAE

💀

[toxic tinsel]

yeah idk

i guess i just rr ignite

feels bad though

[ionic basin]

yeah def u started at wrong time but u know the game

and like it?

[toxic tinsel]

yeah

just will be annoying redoing some horizontal

[covert remnant]

For those who played wheelchair class, is it fun?

[zealous lintel]

problem is the mental to do the same thing over

[ionic basin]

just see how it is for ignite and play 2 rosters

[toxic tinsel]

350moko and 70souls around there per collection

ye i will

[ionic basin]

u done more horizontal than me

[midnight marlin]

ask the wheelchair channel

[ionic basin]

X

[toxic tinsel]

95% of those mokoko are from islands too xD

[covert remnant]

Where is that?!

[midnight marlin]

take the wheelchair role

[ionic basin]

hopefully we get an express for main servers on the 9th

[echo ermine]

Possibility yeah

[ionic basin]

also if u havent done advanced honing yet, i recommend now before u gonna have surges in price by next week

in materials

[toxic tinsel]

i havent even unlocked echidna

[ionic basin]

oo

[toxic tinsel]

its 1620

[ionic basin]

youll get there if u can suffer through the gatekeep 🙏

[midnight marlin]

mf doesnt even do akkan

[toxic tinsel]

im gatekept by having no shards

[toxic tinsel]

witerally doing akkan on reset

[ionic basin]

imposter or learning party

[toxic tinsel]

learning ideally

[mystic basin]

canyou skip the story in tnl

[ionic basin]

get ur tnl ass out of here

[toxic tinsel]

but idk i was gonna do it with some friends

so idk what theyre gonna say for it

[midnight marlin]

think all the tnl players went bedged

[echo ermine]

What's "tnl"

[midnight marlin]

shinn might still be up

[ionic basin]

mmo

[zealous lintel]

throne and liberty

the new shiny toy being forgotten in 2 months

[echo ermine]

Ah. I see.

[ionic basin]

the combat system is good for ppl over age of 40

[toxic tinsel]

@gilded forge if we do thaemine g1-3 are we planning on skipping last g1 mech with balthorr?

if so would I need atropine/dark

[mystic basin]

not really

and wdym last mech

[toxic tinsel]

the shield

[mystic basin]

its just balthor and you kill the boss

[ionic basin]

hold ur skills if u a burst

[mystic basin]

dont need atro really

[ionic basin]

but if u consistent dealer break the sheild

[mystic basin]

but nothing else to run so atro

[ionic basin]

and then atro

[toxic tinsel]

ne is kinda burst/consistent depending on gauge

[lucid fractal]

Listen up berry

[ionic basin]

if u greed with NE, u can just do enhanced guiltone and spam all pinks, itd be dead before u can enhance again

[lucid fractal]

dn

[ionic basin]

but if noone is breaking shield

[lucid fractal]

You too enhance dn

[ionic basin]

u gotta break it

[toxic tinsel]

okk

[lucid fractal]

break what

[mystic basin]

ye idk tnl is shit

[lucid fractal]

fr

[ionic basin]

thaemine g1

[toxic tinsel]

tnl looks and feels really good but the core gameplay is super meh

[mystic basin]

after playing lost ark any games combat looks shit

[lucid fractal]

the organism stuff ?

[toxic tinsel]

if loa had the graphics and engine of tnl it would have twice the players at minimum

[ionic basin]

im not interested in pvp unless its optiional in mmo

[lucid fractal]

It isn't just that, the combat really is shit

[ionic basin]

but tnl seems forced pvp to get good drops

[echo ermine]

Nooo! We don't need twice as many bots!

[lucid fractal]

Unresponsive

[mystic basin]

iterally whats wrong with bots

[toxic tinsel]

same but I moreso mean how everything works and interacts with eachother not to mention the seamlessness of open world and instancing

imagine if loa was open world seamless :O

[echo ermine]

At 1.3 million players, 600k'ish were bots lol :D

[ionic basin]

i hate open world 😮

[lucid fractal]

beery stop yapping tnl is not even good only koreans play it

[visual smelt]

i'd go play BDO at that point LOL

[toxic tinsel]

:O

[mystic basin]

[ionic basin]

dark souls 3 > elden ring

[lucid fractal]

copium

[echo ermine]

Ohh... you went there

[mystic basin]

i was

[toxic tinsel]

tbf elden ring is designed to be easier for new players

[mystic basin]

the only negative effect they have is taking server space

[lucid fractal]

er>>>>>> all fromsoftware games excluding bloodbone because I didn't play it

[toxic tinsel]

the issue with ds3 is that it's old. Elden ring is new so it's prettier and plays better

if ds3 released today it would blow elden ring out of the water

[mystic basin]

fuck it

wuwa time

[echo ermine]

I prefer a game that is good to a game that looks good. Played less than 2 years ago Ultima Online on a private shard made by players and it felt amazing in so many ways I can't even describe.
Best mmorpg I played in my life.

[lucid fractal]

wuwawawawaw

best mmorpg:none

[robust birch]

Ultimanuts

[ionic basin]

cap

[ionic basin]

real

[ionic basin]

celtic heroes

[lucid fractal]

Copium

I'm not saying its bad or anything I like it

[toxic tinsel]

@ionic basin how do you weave in vestige in fights where you don't want to move too much?

[lucid fractal]

but forgive me er is the goat

[toxic tinsel]

like hanumatan circle for an example

[ionic basin]

u can go next to it, and vestige backwards

[lucid fractal]

U just use it

And don't care

[ionic basin]

and it still hits

[lucid fractal]

About being pushed or anything

[toxic tinsel]

ye but then youre out of the circle and get basically one shot

[lucid fractal]

just spam skills fr

[ionic basin]

yeah u gonna have to space bar back in

[toxic tinsel]

hmm ok

[ionic basin]

rlly fast

[echo ermine]

Does that damage go through time stop?

[ionic basin]

usually supports would shield

but youre in monkey

[lucid fractal]

Bro just do it from the barrier to the other one ?

You won't leave then

[ionic basin]

if u know where its moving to, u can vestige towards predicted location

[echo ermine]

With that amount of damage, I would say something like Rapsody would save them with 1 hit.
But 2 hits not sure.

[lucid fractal]

Would

[echo ermine]

On item level?

[ionic basin]

true

i havent done a monkey since ages

i forgot how hard it hits

[toxic tinsel]

if you have 130k it does about 120k

iirc

[echo ermine]

I do it with my alts, hits mega hard, even though it's rare to see someone getting hit by it.

[ionic basin]

saintone makes striker look fun

[toxic tinsel]

I guess that's a bad example though I moreso mean any boss where you don't want to move

but you still want to damage and vestige is off cd

[lucid fractal]

saint bone

Berry did u do akkan

[echo ermine]

Rapsody gives you a shield + 75% damage taken reduced.

[lucid fractal]

berry didu do thaemine hm 1-3

[toxic tinsel]

reset hasnt happened

[lucid fractal]

oh zamn

dead game

[toxic tinsel]

oh reset was 19mins ago it's just maint nvm

[lucid fractal]

Omg maint

Is general chat getting attacked yet

[toxic tinsel]

was a bit before maint not much else after

[ionic basin]

this new brel raid looks so fun man

i cant wait

[toxic tinsel]

gotta get through hm aegir first 😔

[urban obsidian]

[ionic basin]

😔 aegir the trixion dummy

[urban obsidian]

no you dont?

[toxic tinsel]

to gear for brel?

[urban obsidian]

why do you need hm

[lucid fractal]

Who's aegir and new brel (i know nothing)

[toxic tinsel]

for more mats

[urban obsidian]

[lucid fractal]

maybe raiding this new brel will make us 1680

Then Hm aegir dn 1720

[toxic tinsel]

brel is like 1740 cap

[urban obsidian]

[lucid fractal]

After that we can one shot normal valtan

[toxic tinsel]

with esther

[lucid fractal]

esther dn who uses esther berry

[echo ermine]

Me not clearing Ivory yet ahah

[ionic basin]

so new players do exist

[toxic tinsel]

you should deffo solo it if you havent done it at all

[ionic basin]

are ags running ads

[lucid fractal]

I'm returning

[toxic tinsel]

I did it for the first time today by solo

[lucid fractal]

I quit from time to time when it feels shit

[urban obsidian]

[lucid fractal]

(It always does)

[ionic basin]

start of t4 will feel like shit

[toxic tinsel]

... i also unlocked it today tbf

[bitter lichen]

[ionic basin]

now youre ready for group

[lucid fractal]

I'm looking to pp a gs and get 1640 gear for my 1620 arcana

then idk deadge game

[toxic tinsel]

time to get hit 20x in g2

[ionic basin]

youre playing the game like its seasonal

[bitter lichen]

do what to a gs

[ionic basin]

so thats good

[lucid fractal]

Powerpass it if they ever gave one

[echo ermine]

Was about to say: what a minute... ahaha

[lucid fractal]

If you don't play it like that maybe you will be let down and everyone will gatekeep you but it isn't always like that because if you want to be as good as other rosters gonna require you alot of time because yk this game doesn't respect your time just like every asian mmorpg

You either pay or sleep there for their benefit and your minimal fun idk

[bitter lichen]

[robust birch]

@supple parrot how much have you spent in throne and liberty so far

[supple parrot]

0

Completely f2p

[lucid fractal]

Good. Delete it now

[ionic basin]

just buy a chinese account every 1 year

[lucid fractal]

[supple parrot]

Idk wut is going on in that game. I’m just face rolling

Didn’t read anything

[toxic tinsel]

chuan is rlly good tho

[robust birch]

how u like it so far

[toxic tinsel]

chuan joined death pt and they didnt wipe once

[robust birch]

ima try it

[lucid fractal]

What raid

[supple parrot]

Idk. I have no clue what is going on

[lucid fractal]

chuan chi

[supple parrot]

I just did the lv30 dungeon in mm

[robust birch]

ur already lvl30

[supple parrot]

And it was completely faceroll

[lucid fractal]

gya

[toxic tinsel]

the first dungeon has a semi wipe mechanic where if you dont cc the boss at a specific time you take heavy damage and it usually wipes

[robust birch]

ur whaling

[supple parrot]

Idk how scalp said he was having trouble

With lv20 with pugs

[lucid fractal]

L game

[supple parrot]

Guess he is just bad

[supple parrot]

? U can get to max lvl in like 5-6 hrs if u speed run it

I’m slow if anything

[robust birch]

if lost ark combat is a 8/10 where would you put TL

[supple parrot]

Cuz I did the dungeons and stuff

[ionic basin]

10/10

[supple parrot]

So far. Prob like a 4 lol

[lucid fractal]

4/10

[robust birch]

gg

i quit

[lucid fractal]

toothpaste mmo

[supple parrot]

To be fair I didn’t even read my skills

I’m just spamming on cd

And it’s faceroll

The only skill I read is my taunt

[bitter lichen]

[supple parrot]

The gearing seems to be just side grades tbh from what I see so far

[ionic basin]

hows the skins in TnL?

[supple parrot]

I’m f2p

[bitter lichen]

no coom

[toxic tinsel]

yet

[ionic basin]

no point playing

[toxic tinsel]

they said the next skins they release are similar to loa summer skins

[bitter lichen]

Yet if theyre smart

[supple parrot]

No skins cuz 100% f2p

[bitter lichen]

buy off AH

[ionic basin]

game will see 1000x of player increase

[supple parrot]

I honestly have no clue what is going on. I did mm dungeon. No one said a word and we just face rolled the entire dungeon

One guy died on final boss. Idk to what. But we killed it one shot

[toxic tinsel]

itll prob be the same until a dungeon has a mech that is actually hard

[bitter lichen]

pretty standard for mmo

[supple parrot]

I don’t think there is any hard dungeons in it

It’s like new world levels of dungeon

Which was faceroll with minor mechs

[ionic basin]

then u cant get gatekept

right

[supple parrot]

Oh u still can. We gatekept in new world

[bitter lichen]

Always will be gatekept

[ionic basin]

crazyu

[supple parrot]

New world is kinda diff tho. Cuz u needed key. And we bring a guy for his key and carry him

[lucid fractal]

elden ring pvp before my lost ark girlfriend finds me before t4

[urban obsidian]

dont you already have ulti

[bright whale]

his right hand does not count

[lucid fractal]

She doesn't want me, she wants someone with at least 500K lost ark gold revenue so she can gamble it :(

[bright whale]

or echidna in his dms

[bitter lichen]

[robust birch]

what server u on

[supple parrot]

Chernobu something

[robust birch]

ok so

not f2p

[supple parrot]

?

[robust birch]

thats early access server

[urban obsidian]

yeh

[supple parrot]

I literally started today

Ya but u can make char there

[urban obsidian]

chuan already p2p unlucky

[robust birch]

classic chuan whale

[supple parrot]

Sometimes it’s unlocked

[robust birch]

paid 140$ for early access

[supple parrot]

And happened to be unlocked when I started today

[urban obsidian]

whaling for early access in loa and tnl

[supple parrot]

Scalp is there too. U can make a char in another server. Keep an eye out and transfer over when it lets u

The transfer tickets are free right now

[robust birch]

scalp a whale too

thats crazy

[bitter lichen]

bug abuser

[supple parrot]

It’s not a bug

[robust birch]

is transfer always free

[supple parrot]

[supple parrot]

Prob only for the start of the game

It says event right now and the price is 0

[robust birch]

how much does it cost

[supple parrot]

0 right now

[robust birch]

later

[supple parrot]

I don’t know original price and I don’t know conversion rate to real money

Cuz I’m f2p. Has nothing to do with me

[robust birch]

im gonna use the QR code to make my character look like you

[supple parrot]

It’s not working for me. I tried using wife’s pic and it didn’t work

I just used random generator like 20 times til something ok

[lucid fractal]

[supple parrot]

what

[robust birch]

defualt kinda look like u already

[supple parrot]

[lucid fractal]

You used to scan your wife's picture to transfer it into a TnL female character preset?

[robust birch]

bro

[supple parrot]

Well it lets u put in pic and it makes a preset for u. And ye I tried. It didn’t work

[robust birch]

it worked

[supple parrot]

[robust birch]

and it literally did not change except it made you orange

[supple parrot]

What?

[lucid fractal]

orange degen

[supple parrot]

I’m not trump

[lucid fractal]

[supple parrot]

How am I orange

[robust birch]

i dm

[supple parrot]

I’m literally the palest Asian

[robust birch]

cant post here

[dawn yacht]

just dont be then

[robust birch]

thats wild

[supple parrot]

Bruh that looks like a Mexican

[robust birch]

TL racist

[robust birch]

its literally you

[supple parrot]

Why it made me orange

[supple parrot]

I mean. Not rly

[lucid fractal]

you are what you eat

[robust birch]

its a picture of you

[supple parrot]

Could do better

[dawn yacht]

[supple parrot]

Ya but their ai sucks

[robust birch]

maybe you suck

[supple parrot]

[robust birch]

tangerine lookin ass mf

[supple parrot]

That’s racist

[robust birch]

i didnt make you orange

blame ags

[supple parrot]

Why did it work for u tho

When I tired it it just gave me error

[robust birch]

idk

[supple parrot]

Maybe too many ppl online when I made

Was at peak concurrent

[robust birch]

send me pic of ur wife ill see if it works

[supple parrot]

Ur too much of a degenerate

[robust birch]

how

its for research

[supple parrot]

wdym

[bitter lichen]

[supple parrot]

[dawn yacht]

[gilded forge]

Yeah i can use balthorr

[dawn yacht]

cant wait to have no perms for this 2 days maintenance

[gilded forge]

Its what is the regular strategy i think

[bitter lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-shocked-turtle-gif-11062250997175337277

[dawn yacht]

[robust birch]

holy

i used a picture of big matthew

and it worked

[toxic tinsel]

wtf man

thaemine g3 looks so overwhelming xD

[supple parrot]

Why u don’t use ur own pic

[robust birch]

this is more fun

[gilded forge]

I used to do 4c4s of this when i played still

[robust birch]

ima just feed it random pics

[supple parrot]

[gilded forge]

But now since im kinda retired just helping ppl clear for fun

[dawn yacht]

btw why are you yapping so much chuan ? you are rank 6 on richest members here

[toxic tinsel]

i just need to learn the patterns

[dawn yacht]

yapping = coins

[toxic tinsel]

since many of his patterns will kill me

[supple parrot]

there is only like 10 ppl left here

So 6th ain’t much

[gilded forge]

The critical wound you should be wary of

[dawn yacht]

how many coins you got

[toxic tinsel]

[toxic tinsel]

yeahh I need to not get hit

can darkness be cleansed with purify? Or only pancea/charm

[gilded forge]

This gate is actually easy I think with good support player

[supple parrot]

Like 1.5 mil when I was made aware of this thing last week

[gilded forge]

At certain times yes, at others, no

[toxic tinsel]

hmm ok

[ionic basin]

dont be scared of critical wound

[dawn yacht]

[thorn sluice]

Give me some I wanna gamble

[supple parrot]

100% f2p

[bitter lichen]

dieing server

[thorn sluice]

[supple parrot]

Just yap more

[dawn yacht]

i mean there is no p2w yapping dude

[thorn sluice]

I yapped a lot for behemoth nerfs

[toxic tinsel]

I just need to hard study the major mechanics and then I can learn the patterns passively

[thorn sluice]

[scenic rose]

they want u to play T&L today

[toxic tinsel]

like his identity bar and clashes and stuff

[supple parrot]

I’ll teach ya trick. When u type a sentence break it up into multiple lines of 3 words

[gilded forge]

There is only 2 spots you need to remember for identity pattern in thaemine

[dawn yacht]

[gilded forge]

Normal mode

[thorn sluice]

[supple parrot]

Also spam emotes and copy pastas

[toxic tinsel]

even with enhance attacks?

[gilded forge]

Yes

[bitter lichen]

coc

n

[quartz turret]

wtf server down

[bitter lichen]

balls

[dawn yacht]

copy pastas probably the best way

[gilded forge]

Always will be safe behind him, either kissing his back or a slight distance away from him

[full girder]

20h or 9h of maint?

[robust birch]

i tried a picture of trump and now im getting error 403

[gilded forge]

those two positions are enough to dodge all 4 possible red attacks that show up

[toxic tinsel]

i see ok

[bitter lichen]

tnl are lgbti friendly

another win for the plus sized queens

[dense canyon]

@supple parrot how many people you got working for you in the sweatshop, farming gold?

[supple parrot]

Ye. Get on tnl

[dense canyon]

[robust birch]

picture of trupm gives error code, picture of putin works fine

[supple parrot]

0. Common misconception. I am not affiliated with anything of that sort. I’m just a casual f2p gamer

[quartz turret]

[gilded forge]

If your support is good, the patterns do not really hurt / won't kill you from damage, though you can die from falling after the shield break / horse clashes

[dense canyon]

So around 15. Do you pay them?

[opal temple]

i think after released of path of exile 2 will lower game base player to very low

[gilded forge]

The problem is that there are not many good support players, so it's likely you will die to damage plenty of times

[supple parrot]

[toxic tinsel]

so g1 it's just put both baits on the same crater and throw destro at your 3x or 3x+1 area -> get grabbed for last mech

g2 is just kinda avoid stuff like use brain and then for chase you counter based on party list, if he's south always counter and north it can be fake or stagger

[bitter lichen]

so g1 it's just put both baits on the same crater and throw destro at your 3x or 3x+1 area -> get grabbed for last mech

g2 is just kinda avoid stuff like use brain and then for chase you counter based on party list, if he's south always counter and north it can be fake or stagger

[gilded forge]

yeah basically