lost-ark-discussions

[supple parrot]

day1 full 10 t4

who gonna gatkeeep u

[fresh scarab]

it's prob like 3-4% overall diff

[true tartan]

[true tartan]

Thats

Pretty huge

[fresh scarab]

2 weapon hones

[true tartan]

At least to me

[tulip charm]

, gonna be at least 200% difference

[fresh scarab]

again i dont know sorc

so i can only estimate based on pred values

[true tartan]

Weapon hones are not even that. 1 weapon hone is not 2% tho

It's like 1.?

[queen grail]

@true tartan how rich are you now? People calling you whale, let me see them digits

[urban obsidian]

wep hones are like 1.3 i think?

[fresh scarab]

weapon hones are like 1.6-1.8%ish

[supple parrot]

19 weapon to 25 is 10%

[true tartan]

I hope I am bro

[urban obsidian]

nvm wrong side

[fresh scarab]

two of those fall within 3-4%

[true tartan]

Yea 6 hoens

10%

Sounds bout right

[fresh scarab]

10/6=1.67%

[true tartan]

Ay. Sounds right

But honestly I say 3 to 4 is huge because

At a point

[fresh scarab]

it is pretty big

[true tartan]

When we have nth to upgrade

Those comes in

[fresh scarab]

also have to keep in mind tho

adren books gonna be expensive as shit

[prime wind]

dw u got lots of gems to upgrade

[true tartan]

I know hahahaha

[fresh scarab]

whereas relic pd books prob easier to access

[true tartan]

😉

[fresh scarab]

and pd has better uptime

im not saying its good

although its an alternative

if you wanted to el cheapo / rely on something suboptimal

[true tartan]

I swear all the books gonna cost a leg.

No matter pd or adre

[fresh scarab]

in korea theyre fucked still

[supple parrot]

some dumb bitches gatekept my sorc from g4 cuz im f2p 20 weapon enjoyer, then i clear it and see them back in pf jailed

[fresh scarab]

so

[true tartan]

But if I'm gonna spend abit more I'll go adre

[tulip charm]

saw a keenblunt book at voldis auction earlier, 6.5k
dosn't make sense anymore

[fresh scarab]

adren is like 5-6k rn

[true tartan]

I mean if.u look at it

[fresh scarab]

LMAO

[wind dagger]

After T4, Lost Ark population in the west halved by 50%

[true tartan]

From their pov. They have no choice tho

[fresh scarab]

i have 30-40 selectors and all relevant books maxed

so idc

[true tartan]

Because they can only judge base on char hones

And gems etc

Like those literally your resume

[supple parrot]

they takin ppl with the green title

[true tartan]

U and I both know

Eclipse

Is trash

Like fr.

[supple parrot]

i dont put on eclipse i put on cos

when i apply for g4

[true tartan]

It's being sold at 300k

[supple parrot]

[true tartan]

Anyone can buy that shit

[supple parrot]

no one is buyin cos

[true tartan]

Bruh. Lots of people buying lol

[supple parrot]

eclipse ya

not cos

why someone buy cos

[true tartan]

Oh. Conqueror

[supple parrot]

cos means ur runnin g4 for gold

f2p title

[rich palm]

no, i dont play osrs anyway

[true tartan]

Idk. I dont really look at title honestly

[cursive ruin]

nerf hanu ice attack 🗣️

[urban obsidian]

[true tartan]

Partly cos I don't really pug

[supple parrot]

not much to go off at this point

[true tartan]

If u guys don't have slot that day I literally don't run it

[wind dagger]

Revert all changes, go back to 2022 LOA, we restarting the game! 🗣️

[fresh scarab]

i look at class and how tanky they are and whether they have a para immune counter

[supple parrot]

cuz u whale

dont need gold

[fresh scarab]

title is already assumed

[true tartan]

Maybe because we have friends that suck big ass

Just gets carried 10times

And they have the title

But ya. It's your resume

[supple parrot]

man every 25 weapon we been takin this week is <30 mil dps

[true tartan]

[supple parrot]

absolute monkeys

[burnt tree]

It did for a few days but now its stabilized there. After all most normal players can't create gems like candy xD

[true tartan]

And 1660 palas not taking brand

[fresh scarab]

isnt dps check super low

as long as they dont die

4-3 is free

[true tartan]

Pretty sure we've seen all sorts of monkies

[true tartan]

If you put it thay way

[fresh scarab]

like dps check is something like 20m

[true tartan]

Literally no raids in this game

[fresh scarab]

or less in hard

[true tartan]

Has a dps check

[steel minnow]

Anyone here on arcturus guys?

[true tartan]

U can go with 6 co

[supple parrot]

well higher dps = faster clear and more room for error

usually ppl die

[true tartan]

And down it

Ya. What china man said

If everybody is performing up to standard

Nothing has a dps check

[burnt tree]

China man

[true tartan]

U do more so u have lesser chance to dying that's about it

[steel minnow]

U mean less room for error??

[fresh scarab]

this is true, but isnt it better to clear in 1 go with low dps than have greeders who die over and over for one high parse

[steel minnow]

If she does less pattern u have lesser chance to die

[true tartan]

Nobody knows who is bad or good

[burnt tree]

More room for error cause people are dps goblinoing

So they wipe

[true tartan]

That's the problem haha

[urban obsidian]

this guy doesnt understand english

unlucky

[steel minnow]

No if u have a low parse i am rather jailed

[supple parrot]

???? more room for error, if some ppl die u can still clear

[true tartan]

That's why dps meter is somehow 'important'

But people are toxic so...

[burnt tree]

How hard is it to be normal

[fresh scarab]

personal blacklist time

[supple parrot]

dude there is a big diff between "greeder" and doing zdps

[true tartan]

I'm toxic myself

[steel minnow]

I AM SORRY CHUAN I AM FROM CHINA I MISSUNDERSTOOD WHAT U SAID MY ENGRISH NOT FIRST LANGUAGE

[true tartan]

So ha hahahhaa

[fresh scarab]

you run into a lot of the same people

in g4

[urban obsidian]

i treat g4 like i treat hell

[supple parrot]

im more talkin about hm echidna right now

[steel minnow]

I read ur message wrong

[urban obsidian]

i have my own blacklists

[supple parrot]

some of our runs this week were super sus

[burnt tree]

I treat g4 like it doesn't exist

[fresh scarab]

i have static for hm echidna so i cant speak

[burnt tree]

Even if a big cutscene is locked behind it

[true tartan]

Bruh u have no idea

[burnt tree]

[supple parrot]

i mean cant fill 6 full statics

[burnt tree]

Lmao

[supple parrot]

[true tartan]

[burnt tree]

Idk man i treat lost ark like a game

Not some competitive dps tournament

[supple parrot]

its not a competitive dps tournament, but if u cant do the minimum dps required to clear then raid

then there is an issue

[true tartan]

It is a game after all. But when the game gives u benefits tied to 6 characters

[burnt tree]

But i do the minimum

[true tartan]

And u don't finish it

[burnt tree]

Don't expect higher tho

[supple parrot]

no one is talkin to u

[true tartan]

It's 'punishing'

So people have that. I must clear all raids

[burnt tree]

Horribad game design ngl

[true tartan]

With that mentality. People are gonna be toxic

[wind dagger]

it's how they wanted it

[true tartan]

It is what it is

[burnt tree]

And there's nothing else besides raids

[true tartan]

No design is perfect.

[burnt tree]

It doesn't need to be perfect, just good

[supple parrot]

we had 3 ppl doing <20 mil dps in hm echidna today, had to reform group

2 of them died

[burnt tree]

But even that is considered an achievement in the gaming industry nowadays

[true tartan]

Sucks to say this but if u don't think this is good. It's most prob u are not the target audience in the first place

[burnt tree]

The gameplay is fun for me

The story too atm

But not the vertical/raid design

[supple parrot]

lost ark has story?

shift+g

[burnt tree]

Yes? It does

[true tartan]

Fresh 1630 without trans I assume

[burnt tree]

Specially after south vern

It gets a lot better

[supple parrot]

22 weapon, 100+ flowers

[rugged lynx]

I know you don't like reading the same story over 12 rosters

[true tartan]

Kekw

[burnt tree]

But if you shiftg you wouldn't know

[supple parrot]

and the one 25 weapon i took was gettin out dps'd by my 19 weapon alt

i was losing it

[wind dagger]

good that we will have full access to transcendence in T4

[burnt tree]

If that's enough to make you lose it you need to seek help

[burnt tree]

That's next week

[supple parrot]

??? boss literally enraged u moron

[true tartan]

That's why. And when u say them. We are the toxic ones

[supple parrot]

cuz ppl are dead

[wind dagger]

[burnt tree]

Just tell them not to die

[true tartan]

It's always 2 side of coins lolol

[wind dagger]

What did I miss this week lol, Roxx announcement

[supple parrot]

literally one of the zdps person stopped raid and said he gtg, and we remade group and it was fine

[burnt tree]

Legendary elixirs from NM/Solo Ivory and All trans unlock from NM is next week

[supple parrot]

but was a big waste of time cuz takes time to fill

[true tartan]

Prob went to buy bus

[wind dagger]

Good, I can happily use the saved elixir chests

[supple parrot]

he did it after 1 wipe

i think he was runnin meter

[wind dagger]

and cut trans flowers for artist

[burnt tree]

Get 1630 so i can pocket your supp for Veskal

[tulip charm]

lol
they made the raid so much easier too, since the balance patch we entering 0bar at about 1:50 to 2min ish now, before always entered 0 bar at around 50sec>1min
idk how much time u guys have on the clock when entering 0bar

[true tartan]

Dint really notice

Was never a issue

On dps

[supple parrot]

there was a run where we had 5 seconds going into 0 bar this week, but we were all on alts and 2 ppl were dead

[true tartan]

My static never had issue with dps. It's more about

People dying

[supple parrot]

if u have the dps then it doesnt matter if ppl dead

so its always a dps issue

[true tartan]

Echidna wasn't really

Fair with dps at first tho

[supple parrot]

it is tho

[true tartan]

And raid is designed to have 8 man

How can u say thats dps issue

[supple parrot]

no its not, its designed to have ppl dead

cuz ppl are stupid

[tulip charm]

well sometimes u can get fked in the basement by bad rng mechs like multiple jump rope bs and triple waves, but on average 2-3 jump rope mechs is still 1:50-2min average entry, and instead of 2 full counter rotations before sending azena, you only need 1 counter rotation now before azena for the kill, the raid is so much easier compared to before

[supple parrot]

thats why patterns now dont require 8 ppl to execute

cuz they know ppl will die

its designed to have ppl die

[true tartan]

I don't see going to macdonalds buy a meal and say thay it's too little for 8persoj

[supple parrot]

why u think they stopped addin mechs

that require 8 ppl

?

[true tartan]

What's addin mechs

[supple parrot]

adding

[true tartan]

Because people complain..?

[supple parrot]

ya cuz raids are designed to allow ppl to be dead

and still clear

[wind dagger]

[true tartan]

Flawed logic

[supple parrot]

flawless logic

[fresh scarab]

how do u clear g2 thae with 1 dead before counters

[supple parrot]

ts

[true tartan]

Using time stop

[supple parrot]

dumbass

[true tartan]

Is not

[fresh scarab]

you can ts that shit?

WTF LOL

[true tartan]

Solution tho means it's not designed to

[fresh scarab]

also

[wind dagger]

How about they remove time stop from the game

[supple parrot]

how do u think ppl bus it

[fresh scarab]

i have atro

so i cant ts

[true tartan]

Raids are never design to use TS to cheese

Including g4 thaemine

[supple parrot]

the mech is also at the start of the raid

not at the end

[supple parrot]

ok dont use ts for domain ever again bitch

[fresh scarab]

domain expansion is kinda monkaS for classes that cant spacebar it tho and no DR no TS

[true tartan]

It's cheese.

[supple parrot]

ok dont cheese it then

[wind dagger]

🧀

[supple parrot]

[true tartan]

It's not designed doesn't mean that I can't cheese it?!?!

[fresh scarab]

i can say its poorly designed tho

if no one has figured it out

a year after its release

[supple parrot]

i dont think there is a solution for it

u just have to ts it

[fresh scarab]

mechs are supposed to be at least minimally intuitive

the devs specifically said its not TS required

[true tartan]

The guy said it has tho

We just dk how

[fresh scarab]

they say that and then

[supple parrot]

[fresh scarab]

no one figures it out a year later?

dog shit design then

[true tartan]

But reddit guys proven

[supple parrot]

he is trolling ppl to try to find a solution

[true tartan]

The slashes

[supple parrot]

when there is none

[true tartan]

Sometimes does no dmg tho

[fresh scarab]

too bad no one knows what the conditions are

[true tartan]

Yup

[fresh scarab]

so

poorly designed.

because all other mechs have been solved within a month of release

[supple parrot]

i mean if they make a mech that no one knows how to do an year later

there is an issue

[fresh scarab]

except this fucking shit

[supple parrot]

[true tartan]

Y I guess

[supple parrot]

its also towards end of the raid, too punishing to try to figure out

[cursive ruin]

think fast chucklenuts

[supple parrot]

by the time ppl figure it out, we will do enuf dps to not even see it

[tulip charm]

i mean....
there is a mech that comes to mind right away when you said this

[cursive ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[fresh scarab]

which other mech

[supple parrot]

zheng is gonna say something dumb

[tulip charm]

the g1 thaemine boss, when she does that shadow freeze move, where you have to line up behind other players, then she flies to the edge of the map (counterable), then she zips back to the center

[cursive ruin]

the g1 thaemine boss, when she does that shadow freeze move, where you have to line up behind other players, then she flies to the edge of the map (counterable), then she zips back to the center

[tulip charm]

when have you ever see people resolve that mech properly

[fresh scarab]

wdym

[supple parrot]

multiple times

[fresh scarab]

you hide behind someone

then counter it

[tulip charm]

i saw that countered once, ever

[fresh scarab]

wut

[supple parrot]

[fresh scarab]

its not even that hard

[cursive ruin]

zheng's NA 8 sidereal lobbies always do so much damage they skip it

[fresh scarab]

there is no way you compare that mech

to domain expansion

it has a known repeatable solution

[tulip charm]

welll first of all you only see that mech once per raid, if even that

[cursive ruin]

i seen it once... in a bus

[tulip charm]

but noe one does that mech, they just tank the dmg lol

[cursive ruin]

[fresh scarab]

i mean yeah its not a big deal

but it has a solution

we just choose to ignore it

kinda hard to ignore domain expansion if its on you, and you can't spacebar it, no TS, no DR

you will die

[supple parrot]

just die

and let other ppl clear the raid

i just solved it

[fresh scarab]

4 people died

[cursive ruin]

ok john

[fresh scarab]

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

just thought of an idea, why don't they add this

[fresh scarab]

ok actually

[tulip charm]

splendid timestop...

[cursive ruin]

the design is very human

[fresh scarab]

let me add - no movement skill to dodge

cus reaper can nightmare it

if its the 4th slash

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[cursive ruin]

this gif again

[modern grail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-running-away-escape-getaway-bye-gif-16631286

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drink-beer-cat-with-beer-cat-drinking-beer-gif-15319335051246706504

[cursive ruin]

i recognize this name

[burnt tree]

Zheng stealing my gifs now

Tsk tsk

[steel minnow]

Im pretty sure he didnt poat chaewon

[rugged lynx]

what ever happened to kuroiyumi

[burnt tree]

Its the beer cat mf

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaa-gif-8259382018807366755

[burnt tree]

Doesn't play anymore

[steel minnow]

Part of the 60%

[rugged lynx]

o

[queen grail]

She quit ages ago ye.

[steel minnow]

@rugged lynx nwm sorry its 40%

[burnt tree]

She's free and we still trapped

[steel minnow]

But she is aa trap

[burnt tree]

Not funny

[bitter lichen]

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/pokimane-broke-boy-gif-1631750273434798155

[queen grail]

no? Wut.

[burnt tree]

What does broke got to do with it

[steel minnow]

Huh

[queen grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/863888105543434291/1278773138666291283/i9707374754-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif?=

[steel minnow]

Yumi most delusional trans person i have seen

[queen grail]

Kinda cringe sentence, but you do you kenny.

[rugged lynx]

#freerogal

[burnt tree]

^

What Aly said

[steel minnow]

U are the weirs ones

For accepting behavior like that

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/seokjin-eatjin-bts-jin-eat-gif-21059087

[fresh scarab]

wtf the quality jump

[queen grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/863888105543434291/1278773138666291283/i9707374754-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif?=

[bitter lichen]

whatd they do

[rugged lynx]

That's literally so cool, can this be affected by any effect like atropine? The bursts would be crazy

[urban obsidian]

so like at the end of burgerking burst rotation do you just sit here so you can use yeon for tenacious power gen at the start of next rotation?

[queen grail]

Hmm, not sure actually

[steel minnow]

Being very stupid

[supple parrot]

use ur 3 fast cd yellow skill + auto attk to lower cd

[steel minnow]

No it cant every awakening is same dmg

[queen grail]

@burnt tree Fml, died to dumb stuff in Echidna.

[burnt tree]

That's how most people die unfortunately

[steel minnow]

@queen grail which server are u from

[queen grail]

[steel minnow]

U know anyone from arctutus that has alot of silver?

I need help man

[urban obsidian]

try area chat

[supple parrot]

Imagine needing silver

[quartz turret]

[queen grail]

No, everyone is struggling on silver.

[supple parrot]

U won’t even have enuf silver to transfer gems to t4

[quartz turret]

What are ppl even spending silver on

[supple parrot]

Aren’t u out of silver too

Loser

[quartz turret]

Idk how much it takes

[supple parrot]

[supple parrot]

650k silver per lv10 gem

[quartz turret]

I have 20 mil rn

[supple parrot]

So it will be all gone

Once u transfer ur gems

How u gonna hone

[quartz turret]

[supple parrot]

[queen grail]

13 chars at 1600++

[quartz turret]

I’ll have more by then

[queen grail]

I actuallly have 40mil+ now

[steel minnow]

@quartz turret if u transfer lvl 9 gems on qll 6 chars its 13m silver

200k silver for lvl 9 gem and 650k for lvl 10 gem

[dim lark]

Its against tos to sell a guild?

[queen grail]

@burnt tree I'm rich.

[quartz turret]

I’m using lvl 7s free gems on most my chars

[steel minnow]

Why would it be

[dim lark]

people hacking accounts and selling guilds idk?

[steel minnow]

Yea u gotta buy 9s on all those chars and then convert

[supple parrot]

Gatekeep

[quartz turret]

[modern grail]

rosey

carry me tower nm

[kindred ravine]

lol u r noob

[modern grail]

stfu

[steel minnow]

Hacking is against tos yea

[quartz turret]

with what , my dps artist?

[modern grail]

yes

i bet u gona do more dps than my pin glaive

[quartz turret]

Ask chuan

[kindred ravine]

Gonna make me shut up by kissing my mouth with your thick juicy lips?

[modern grail]

[modern grail]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-a-sign-of-affection-yuki-itose-yubisaki-to-renren-blush-gif-14011784774876811587

[quartz turret]

By dps build I mean chaos build

[modern grail]

https://tenor.com/view/cod-mw2-cod-mw2ghost-cod-ghost-ghost-stare-stare-gif-27067874

wdf

[queen grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/863888105543434291/1278773138666291283/i9707374754-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif?=

[urban obsidian]

i gotchu

[modern grail]

ogey now come to naw

we raidge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1230304710926532640.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[urban obsidian]

my 1640 artist does as much as my 1600 breaker in solo raids

how did they manage to make supp so dogshit in it

[queen grail]

How are ppl getting mc'ed so much in nerfed echidna.

[kindred ravine]

Man how’d they make support class have less dmg. It couldn’t be because they’re a support could it?… no surely not

[neon cedar]

Im trying to join team Echidna

[urban obsidian]

are you

an idiot?

or what

[kindred ravine]

Are you?

Because you seem like a dipshit

[urban obsidian]

ok bro

[kindred ravine]

Ah right, you don’t know that supp classes likely have less dmg scaling on their abilities than dps classes

[urban obsidian]

?

[zealous lintel]

just came here to check on whats going and bro do be already throwing hands

[kindred ravine]

Nah you’re actually a dumbass

[urban obsidian]

am i not allowed to complain about how bad their solution to making supports "playable" in solo mode is?

ok ig

pop off king

[kindred ravine]

Bro surprised a supp does less dmg than a dps class

[urban obsidian]

?

[kindred ravine]

Color me shocked

[urban obsidian]

where was the suprise

[kindred ravine]

I wonder why that is

Actually a moron. Idk how you have 1 warning left. Your stupidity alone is worth getting you banned

[urban obsidian]

:ica

[neon cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cats-funny-cute-anonymous-gif-14797098

[urban obsidian]

youve gotta be baiting theres no way ur this dumb

[queen grail]

My guy, saying "I was behind her" after dying to the Echidna mech where she cast 4 balls forward and they fly back and behind her.

Like, what do you mean? Ofc you died.

[queen grail]

Shouldn't supports in solo be as fast or at least somewhat equal to dps tho?

That's the point of solo no.

?

[wind dagger]

[kindred ravine]

That would be the point, if they gave the classes better scaling to go along with doing solo raids

[dim lark]

@queen grail any ivory hm?

[queen grail]

Or just balance solo buff's so the one support get actually help them more then what it does?

[urban obsidian]

my successor does more than my highest dmg skill

not scucessor

whatever tf the trans dmg is

[faint grove]

@queen grail are you jailed

[kindred ravine]

Then they could do that? Yet they didn’t? Why are you questioning me over shit SG is responsible for? Not my fault they put in solo raids and don’t make shit to cater to supp’s dmg

[queen grail]

Yet they didn't? Because they are bad at balancing pve content for support?

That's the complain tho, that they are bad at support related pve balance.

They have always been.

[queen grail]

Don't think I have more.

[queen grail]

Yes

They keep greeding.

[kindred ravine]

Alys trying to argue the same point I just made just to be against me is wild.

[dim lark]

havent had any issues with solo raids on supps

maybe get some hands

[urban obsidian]

[queen grail]

Hands dn.

[kindred ravine]

He’s complaining that breaker does more dmg than his 1640 artist

[urban obsidian]

idk dude this izunia guy actually might just have no brain atp

[dim lark]

ok give

[kindred ravine]

While being 1600

[urban obsidian]

and how exactly is that not a valid complaint?

[queen grail]

Where did you say similar to what I said? Maybe I missed it in chat, can't see it.

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/seokjin-eatjin-bts-jin-eat-gif-21059087

[kindred ravine]

I said they made scaling for supps dogshit

[urban obsidian]

yes...?

i ask again

[kindred ravine]

Which is why they significantly do less dmg because all their shit is catered to buffing/shield

[urban obsidian]

so why is my complaint not a valid one

[neon cedar]

Izu woke up and chose violence today

[kindred ravine]

It wouldn’t be hard to implement a solo buff that helps supps do them quicker

[neon cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sad-gif-20802455

[urban obsidian]

i will ask again, maybe ill get an answer this time

so why isnt my complaint valid

if everything ur saying backs up my complaint

[queen grail]

So you think they should have made support stronger for solo too or?

I feel like you're in agreement that supports are too weak right now for solo content

[kindred ravine]

Yes, they should have given them better skill dmg scaling, a diff solo buff, or even both

[urban obsidian]

lmaooo

[queen grail]

Isn't that literally what mizu complained about that you complained about that he complained about tho?

[kindred ravine]

My argument is that mizu is surprised artist does less dmg than breaker and he’s surprised

[urban obsidian]

im not suprised?

what

[kindred ravine]

[queen grail]

Who says he's shocked? he just stated a fact that breaker did more and how did they fuck it up?

[kindred ravine]

Bruh

[queen grail]

[cursive ruin]

penis

[dim lark]

WHWREW

awhewre

where

[cursive ruin]

[urban obsidian]

up ur crack

[neon cedar]

penis :weird:

[kindred ravine]

Nice emote

[queen grail]

This is like me saying "Man, why did they fuck up tower so much that dps is much quicker than support's" And you go! OFC DPS IS FASTER THEY ARE DPS! Like, what.

[dim lark]

Nice emote
:Clap:

[cursive ruin]

This is like me saying "Man, why did they fuck up tower so much that dps is much quicker than support's" And you go! OFC DPS IS FASTER THEY ARE DPS! Like, what.

[neon cedar]

:Clap:

[queen grail]

Nice NITRO.

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/pokimane-broke-boy-gif-1631750273434798155

[neon cedar]

[urban obsidian]

today i learned you cant complain about obvious issues with things

[neon cedar]

[urban obsidian]

unnlucky

[cursive ruin]

schmeat shlick emoji

[neon cedar]

:shmeat shlick emoji:

[kindred ravine]

@burnt tree 1 hour

[worn current]

im about to get freaky

[worn current]

For another sparking zero trailer?

[kindred ravine]

Yeah

I think it’s just Buu saga unless they squeeze some GT into it

[burnt tree]

Dayum

[burnt tree]

Lets gooo

Hopefully something good

Maybe pre order character reveal too prayge

[kindred ravine]

I hope so

[worn current]

im a huge kid buu fan. Did they show ssb evolved vegeta?

[kindred ravine]

Idk if it’s non-playable db game or non-playable budokai character

[kindred ravine]

They might have tbh. They showed some ToP stuff already and UI Goku

[burnt tree]

And somehow no leaks

[burnt tree]

SSBE might be an in-game power up like Kaioken

Instead of a stand alone slot

Least that's what people are thinking

[cursive ruin]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YDnqKeWdWt_vAO_hmaDih-rNHKD9pfr--4zcaZK6g0k/edit

[worn current]

Man i cant wait this brings me back to the budokai and tenkaichi days

[modern grail]

stfu

and watch

makeine

[cursive ruin]

stfu and make ketamine

[modern grail]

fentanyl>>

[cursive ruin]

fentanyl laced coke 😋

[kindred ravine]

@burnt tree wanna watch it in discord stream? we don't have to talk
@worn current

[dim lark]

man why i feel like im never gonna finish this

[queen grail]

smh, making no mistake in Echidna, and then ofc at 5x Animation lock into 2 flower mc'ed insta killed

@wintry depot @burnt tree

[kindred ravine]

do you have the funds, or is it corpa for you

[queen grail]

I aint spending on that

[neon cedar]

Why is Gls achievment at 5k when the other classes respective achievments are 1k

gl getting fucked

[kindred ravine]

1k at 3 stars?

[neon cedar]

Full completion after 1k

Only Gl is tiered in 3 steps to 5k

[kindred ravine]

ooh

[dim lark]

cuz they know gls are chads

[queen grail]

Not to bad.

Another 19,4k

[kindred ravine]

lmao

[queen grail]

One guy in this raid was a dumbass tho, holy... I got hit during big echidna and charmed to boss, I pinged for help from sup (Also, didn't get that almost died) and he's like "If you ping again I'm kicking you" What the.

[kindred ravine]

[queen grail]

And he says that, after we wiped 15+ times where someone always died early to greeding Smh, actual...

[kindred ravine]

prolly their friend

[queen grail]

Yea.

Says nothing when idiots die to normal attacks 5 times.

Get's pissy when someone ping for help on a legit mech.

Ok buddy

[burnt tree]

Ok buddy

[amber turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182403694994673746/1265157548907167764/silence_insolent_whelp.gif

[burnt tree]

When we gonna NMchidna

[burnt tree]

[safe lark]

thx4inv

[burnt tree]

You already know i can do it

[burnt tree]

There's no prog mf

[queen grail]

I didn't say you can't do it I'm just wondering if the other people in 10x grp's will be fine with you

I can hear with another grp I run with if they have spot.

[burnt tree]

Do they not like "Monarch of the North"

[safe lark]

straight to decline

[queen grail]

[burnt tree]

Bruh

Why would i use titles i don't like

Tf is this? Some Harvard university entrance exam?

[urban obsidian]

penis

[burnt tree]

Show

[queen grail]

For raiding.
I'm a bit strick on the, "Join with what title the grp says to join with"

I get liking your own title, but I'm so tired of looking at "random hell title" for 10x run and then you have no idea if they know what to do.

[urban obsidian]

did you see my fastest ever ahri

[burnt tree]

You switch to riot control for ivory?

[queen grail]

Ohh, double radiant mana regen bs.

[queen grail]

No, but the highest raid 10x gives a indicator that you know the previous ones, hell titles don't.

Hell titles are legit just "I have time and interest in this".

[burnt tree]

I mean i know i can do Echidna but idk how to do Brel G4

Am i cooked? Frfr

[queen grail]

You're an outliner tho.

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[queen grail]

You only raid if the boss has big tits and shows them.

[kindred ravine]

true what a pervert

[safe lark]

especially akkan

[kindred ravine]

[urban obsidian]

iu love akkan's tits

[burnt tree]

is that a compliment?

[burnt tree]

Untrue

Im fully dedicated to raiding Brelshaza 2.0

And she's covered af

https://tenor.com/view/brelshaza-brel-abrelshud-lost-ark-lost-gif-8510881307881310534

[safe lark]

maybe there is mech with her legs

like aegir

[burnt tree]

I don't like feet

But if she takes her clothes off im in

[urban obsidian]

brel 2.0 will either be amazing or

[burnt tree]

Brel will be balanced around Ark Passive unlike Aegir

Shits gonna be hilarious

Also lvl 70 so during prog/mech figuring out everyone gon be nerfed

[urban obsidian]

man i cant wait to cut new bracelets

[thorn sluice]

How do you choose the raid you will do

[burnt tree]

She has big titties or is hot

Im learning it

Like i learned Echidna

[urban obsidian]

thaemine is hot tho

[thorn sluice]

[burnt tree]

Idk how to do Akkan, G3/4 Akkan or old Brel

Thaemine**

But Echidna? Hooo boy

[urban obsidian]

holy look satho its thaemine

[queen grail]

Yes.

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/thaemine-gif-15946008114660544397

If Thaemine was a hot chick id be an expert too

Hell id have eclipse

[urban obsidian]

thaemine is hot

just not a chick

[gleaming pendant]

I mean he never take off his mask

he could be a really mascular

female

[urban obsidian]

he dont need to with that deep voice

awooooga

id smash

[gleaming pendant]

no femboy voice

[urban obsidian]

kae

[gleaming pendant]

?

[urban obsidian]

nova was here talkin shit about you earlier

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-hachiware-cartoon-anime-cute-gif-8697313785679599638

[gleaming pendant]

yea i was reading it all

while you all was chatting

I just wasn't typing

[urban obsidian]

[gleaming pendant]

[burnt tree]

He looks like an older Kadan

[gleaming pendant]

NO SHIT

[queen grail]

I love Transendence, this was after 2 clicks.

[burnt tree]

Transcendence is ass

I can't max my chestpiece

[urban obsidian]

then just keep clickin

[queen grail]

2 clicks, No, I'm sorry, fuck you, reset,

[burnt tree]

I wanna max chest/pants before Behemoth

[urban obsidian]

chestpiece is lowest average

[burnt tree]

[urban obsidian]

ignore wep that is

[queen grail]

ZERO ZERO CLICKS

THE FUCKING MATH SAYS! RESET BEFORE I EVEN CLICK!

[burnt tree]

Lmao

[queen grail]

Back to back reset 0 clicks, but, ye the system is fun and something people look forward to do @burnt tree

[burnt tree]

Wish i could pay 100k and auto complete it

Instead of this average 60k per piece or whatever

[queen grail]

3 in a row now.

[faint grove]

if the first tap is rng i just tap it to see if you get godtier rng and chophago usually wants to continue if you do

[thorn sluice]

You don’t know how to do g3/4 akkan ?

You did g1-2 only ?!

[burnt tree]

Ive done g3 solo

But that's easy

[queen grail]

I had a pretty high % to make it there.
And then it was 2 tiles again and I was forced to lightning it, ofc, no.

[thorn sluice]

Solo

[glacial marsh]

Lightning

Is shittier than it seems

I think it’s literally a 50% chance to dick yourself

[steel minnow]

@ancient tundra someone is impersonating you

[tardy tusk]

Isnt bald

so its fine

To, thats a glaivier i think

[steel minnow]

@limber raptor im guessing this is the elfuego

[cursive ruin]

i wanna get fangs

[kindred ravine]

ARE YOU READYYYYY @burnt tree

[worn current]

You look like this kitten

[kindred ravine]

Are you flirting with shin rn?

[worn current]

Nah

[kindred ravine]

stream going live any second now @worn current

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZprM9uk-1M

[worn current]

Ayy

[kindred ravine]

IT'S HEREEEEEE

1 min count down

these colors, could it mean anything?

janemba incoming?

WE'RE HERE CHAT WE MADE IT OMG

[worn current]

Evil buu

They have evil buu

[kindred ravine]

wait is babidi a summon fighter? LOL

final explosion

man i wish we had the older super buu voice actor

😭

oh it's not bad once he goes buutenks and buuhan

[cursive ruin]

bro this mf took my chest in mahraka island and i headbutted him off the map

[kindred ravine]

damn almost full

[green kestrel]

how to do it guys?

[kindred ravine]

also this slot makes me think orange piccolo is gonna be in the base game, unless there's a GT piccolo variant

[worn current]

They might add some from super hero movie

[cursive ruin]

u wait for the destined day

[kindred ravine]

super hero movie is both DLC and in the base game i believe, atleast Gamma 1 and Gamma 2 are confirmed as DLC characters

[green kestrel]

when is that?

[cursive ruin]

when they finish the story no one knows when

[worn current]

Oh cell max will be great

[green kestrel]

oh ok

[rugged lynx]

This sounds like a whole load of BS

[cursive ruin]

they're stretching the storussy like a korean drama

[worn current]

Imagine if they added OG broly or bio broly. I know they wouldnt

[kindred ravine]

OG Broly? wym? like Z broly?

or when he's not super saiyan

bio broly is NOT making the cut

[worn current]

Z Broly

[kindred ravine]

i mean we haven't seen any movie characters yet other than super gogeta

and super broly

[worn current]

I guess it would probably be too much. They will probably add alot of characters as dlc

[kindred ravine]

still waiting on them to show janemba. all we have left trailer wise is End of Z characters, GT characters, and then the movies

[worn current]

Like xenoverse did

[kindred ravine]

it's confirmed 20+ chars are DLC

and there's a pre-order exclusive char

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-cute-nodding-kawaii-anime-gif-1180767381067764684

[kindred ravine]

i want my janemba

[queen grail]

The person that made elixir and transendence system.

[kindred ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/teq-janemba-super-janemba-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-db-gif-15242964119811366332

[queen grail]

I hope you step on lego.

[kindred ravine]

what's worse to you? trans or elixirs?

[queen grail]

Elixir with Trans right behind.

[cursive ruin]

ambatu transcend

[queen grail]

Both are trash shit system that do not feel fun to even touch once.

[kindred ravine]

elixir is rng piled ontop of rng with more rng inside of it right? like 4-5 layers of rng shit?

[scenic rose]

wats the new system they added

[kindred ravine]

they have a new system already?

[scenic rose]

yeh

[queen grail]

Transendence with calculator is, "Reset the system for 1k each time until you hit high enough pity and good enough start cards.

Thanks, fun system.

[kindred ravine]

what is this btw, the Alt + V thing?

is it just a stronger version, or can we use both awakening and hyper awakening

[worn current]

Should add this guy and also Bojack

[kindred ravine]

i think they might not add him considering anelaza is in the game but it's possible lol

another big character slot is gonna go to fat janemba prolly

Bojack for sure would be good to add

[uncut stratus]

Gom

[scenic rose]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-slap-panty-anime-gif-15770215

[worn current]

In GT i would like to see Baby/baby vegeta and all forms as well as super android 17

[kindred ravine]

oh yeah for sure i want baby vegeta too

bro is fire

[kindred ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-fighter-zdbz-gif-20033868

[worn current]

I dont think GT is as bad as people say it is. I actually like it. I just feel like people think its cool to hate on it

[scenic rose]

i liked it alot

[kindred ravine]

i think people hated GT because of the start of it feeling weird

I like GT

[scenic rose]

didnt like super

movies got nothing on DC animatinos

[kindred ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/cooler-dbz-dragon-ball-z-gif-4979164

[bold aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/gogeta-gif-21801674

[kindred ravine]

i watched this again like a week or 2 ago

i love cooler

[scenic rose]

https://tenor.com/view/cumber-kumba-cumba-saiyan-evil-saiyan-gif-14416968

[kindred ravine]

i fucking hope he has his shit where he goes through ki blasts and punches the fuck out of you

[worn current]

Yeah Vegeta being my favorite character. I liked him better in DBZ than Super

[kindred ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-majin-dragonball-gif-7829830

[worn current]

I feel like he got soft

[scenic rose]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-vegetaohshit-vegeta-ff-cell-gif-12170086

[kindred ravine]

yeah DBZ went harder

[tardy tusk]

my man got a wife, a son, and learn how to live with his anger, i dont think he got soft.

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540933911182835712/1264384008352170034/i0677544577.gif

[kindred ravine]

Character development

[scenic rose]

bro is an administrator

he a king

let grunt goku do the monkey shit

[kindred ravine]

even cast aside his pride to appease to beerus

[tardy tusk]

True

[worn current]

Which makes sense because hes a family man now in super lol

[kindred ravine]

i really want OG Broly with that crisp sound on all his Ki attacks

https://tenor.com/view/lr-teq-super-saiyan-broly-lr-teq-legendary-super-saiyan-broly-broly-super-saiyan-ssj-gif-3804774539952349826

[scenic rose]

https://tenor.com/view/broly-broly-laugh-dbs-anime-pissed-gif-21658066

[worn current]

Do you like Z broly or new broly better. Some people find Z broly stupid because of the plot of it. Hes angry with kakarot because he was crying when they were babies lol

[pulsar crow]

how many episodes did this power up take?

[kindred ravine]

I think the lore behind Z Broly is stupid, but the character himself is cool af

[tardy tusk]

I kinda want to attack Broly that use that energy but like Whitebeard

[scenic rose]

its the best movie

[tardy tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-akainu-white-beard-punch-marin-ford-gif-20009038

oh wtf

[kindred ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/broly-fighter-z-broly-dbz-level3-dragon-ball-gif-27042589

discord being shitty for gifs again

classic

[tardy tusk]

fixed

[queen grail]

50k gold gone @burnt tree Trash system.

[worn current]

Did they show cooler in the trailer? I dont think they did

[tardy tusk]

Abatido

[uneven mortar]

game so ez

[kindred ravine]

i don't think he's been in any trailers so far but idk

but if they're adding shit like mecha frieza and king cold i don't see why he won't be in the game

[tardy tusk]

You really pulled

Sparkle

when rappa itscomming?

Damn.

[kindred ravine]

fuck rappa

[tardy tusk]

Yeah i would.

[kindred ravine]

also sparkle too goated not to pull

[tardy tusk]

Rappa its a sparkle but with damage.

To, Feixiao next patch

and after that

Tingyun 5*

[kindred ravine]

also tingyun is super break oriented so she'll be replacing harmony MC
allegedly

[tardy tusk]

I swear to god, hoyo want players to be furry across their games.

ZZZ with jane doe(rat)

[kindred ravine]

have you not seen the next ZZZ character?

it's full on furry

[tardy tusk]

HSR with feixiao and tingyun (Fox)

Just w8 to GI to drop any furry char

jesus.

[tardy tusk]

Im not interested on ZZZ beside their r34.

[kindred ravine]

i bet icy ca-

bro is a furry

wtf

[tardy tusk]

hold o

genshin have this version

[kindred ravine]

yeah fuck that game, but i'm saying for looks wise

[tardy tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/xilonen-xilonen-genshin-impact-geo-woman-natlan-geo-natlan-gif-6490973159303050799

[kindred ravine]

[burnt tree]

Frfr

[burnt tree]

Good trailer ngl

[kindred ravine]

also people found the hack on how to make genshin chars darker

turning off bloom

[tardy tusk]

always has been

didnt know?

lmao

[kindred ravine]

nah i only seen it like a month ago

[tardy tusk]

To, if you want really darkers cha ---> mods.

[kindred ravine]

wait

[tardy tusk]

my mualani its darker.

[kindred ravine]

oh shit

we're getting actual form change Herta

like DanIL

[tardy tusk]

I like the muscle mommy arts.

[tardy tusk]

Leaks said "Kinda Ranni of Elden ring"

[kindred ravine]

and apparently people are saying we're getting a path of rememberance character

but to take it with giga grain of salt

[stark thicket]

FEIXIAO is coming home with me

Mommy

[kindred ravine]

2.5 battle pass

[stark thicket]

[tardy tusk]

they should start add new path

like, SU have like 2032021 paths

[kindred ravine]

for sure

yeah

[wind dagger]

Stop fuping

[tardy tusk]

?

u good?

[tardy tusk]

I kinda feel Nihility its the "Put anyshit here"

DPS? Buffer?Debuffer?

dots

heal

[kindred ravine]

yeah nihlity is kinda whacky for specific characters

lol

[stark thicket]

[uneven mortar]

lingsha is better tingyun right

[tardy tusk]

found the mod

[kindred ravine]

i figured Acheron would've been a char i did NOT want bc she was nihility and i disliked how they played at the time being based on DoT shit

then she comes out and is goated

[tardy tusk]

Ligshan is a healer.

And its worst than galladher.

[uneven mortar]

theres no way mihoyo gonna make 5* worst than 4*

[uneven mortar]

they gonna do last minute buff

[tardy tusk]

?????????????

First hoyo game?

[kindred ravine]

all they had to do

[uneven mortar]

trust

[kindred ravine]

[uneven mortar]

[kindred ravine]

ezpz design

[tardy tusk]

I legit asking

first hoyo game?

LMAO

[queen grail]

Finally some luck, one shot 3 Flowers on Lv.7 @burnt tree

[kindred ravine]

I like the Natlan characters bc of the glowing tattoos and shit, it's just a shame hoyo refuses to make them actually darker skinned

[uneven mortar]

only play genshin and star rail

but on and off

[kindred ravine]

would make them stick out so much more

[tardy tusk]

yeah, thats why i modded

[tardy tusk]

So.. you should know there is a bunch of 4* that are way stonger than 5*