Fucking weebs
#lost-ark-discussions
swift lava
ancient tundra
Solo leveling arise character
ancient tundra
Fucking weebs
Says who
blissful rose
oh
ancient tundra
Mf has cyberpunk pfp
swift lava
So
ancient tundra
And call us weebs
swift lava
Well i only like cyberpunk lol
ancient tundra
Holy shit gggs
swift lava
I wouldn’t have watched if it wasn’t cyberpunk lol
burnt tree
What
swift lava
ancient tundra
New hunter upcoming soon in jeju
burnt tree
I already knew that
burnt tree
Shes in production since early/late July
gleaming pendant
NOBARASHI
dawn yacht
satho is the bigger nerd
ancient tundra
Ye I saw latest leak
swift lava
What the fuck is nobara
ancient tundra
Huh
worn current
Listening to some michael jackson
swift lava
swift lava
That’s a femboy
burnt tree
Rem and Ram frfr
dawn yacht
time to uninstall that shit
burnt tree
Girl Leveling
ancient tundra
time to uninstall that shit
Na bro as soon I saw that hunter
dawn yacht
trash leveling
ancient tundra
I won t quit anytime soon
burnt tree
Honestly its just Net marble things
worn current
i forgot solo leveling arise existed
dawn yacht
Na bro as soon I saw that hunter
right the simp instinct kicked in
still lintel
when you cant stop sneezing 
https://fxtwitter.com/VTuberMemes/status/1826393851302740108
gleaming pendant
OMG FURRY GAMEPLAY
ancient tundra
oh yeah ? show your seo mfer
She is normal
gleaming pendant
ancient tundra
A5
worn current
OMG FURRY GAMEPLAY
Is that icy?
chrome geyser
I need some advice guys, rn if I transfer all gear to T4 I'd go 1636.66 -> 1658.66 (+25 weapon +20adv weapon, +10 gloves). I do want to push as many pieces as much ilvl on adv honing to use up my shards b4 September patch, should I go +10 everything or +20 take it one by one?
Aiming to 1680 till Aegir - was thinking if it's more worth using more T3 shards and mats pushing the more expensive +11-+20 on each piece 1 by 1 (I won't manage to +20 all till T4 guaranteed), or temper all +10 pieces ASAP with Echidna eyes and T3 shards and adv hone whenever it is the case in T4
worn current
im joking
dawn yacht
She is normal
she is maxxed out you filthy seo simp
worn current
joking
still lintel
OMG FURRY GAMEPLAY
how far are you now?
robust birch
I need some advice guys, rn if I transfer all gear to T4 I'd go 1636.66 -> 1658.66 (+25 weapon +20adv weapon, +10 gloves). I do want to push as many pieces as much ilvl on adv honing to use up my shards b4 September patch, should I go +10 everything or +20 take it one by one?
Aiming to 1680 till Aegir - was thinking if it's more worth using more T3 shards and mats pushing the more expensive +11-+20 on each piece 1 by 1 (I won't manage to +20 all till T4 guaranteed), or temper all +10 pieces ASAP with Echidna eyes and T3 shards and adv hone whenever it is the case in T4
ancient tundra
Maybe I should
dawn yacht
Wym filthy bro
degen seo simp
worn current
I need some advice guys, rn if I transfer all gear to T4 I'd go 1636.66 -> 1658.66 (+25 weapon +20adv weapon, +10 gloves). I do want to push as many pieces as much ilvl on adv honing to use up my shards b4 September patch, should I go +10 everything or +20 take it one by one?
Aiming to 1680 till Aegir - was thinking if it's more worth using more T3 shards and mats pushing the more expensive +11-+20 on each piece 1 by 1 (I won't manage to +20 all till T4 guaranteed), or temper all +10 pieces ASAP with Echidna eyes and T3 shards and adv hone whenever it is the case in T4
ancient tundra
I need some advice guys, rn if I transfer all gear to T4 I'd go 1636.66 -> 1658.66 (+25 weapon +20adv weapon, +10 gloves). I do want to push as many pieces as much ilvl on adv honing to use up my shards b4 September patch, should I go +10 everything or +20 take it one by one?
Aiming to 1680 till Aegir - was thinking if it's more worth using more T3 shards and mats pushing the more expensive +11-+20 on each piece 1 by 1 (I won't manage to +20 all till T4 guaranteed), or temper all +10 pieces ASAP with Echidna eyes and T3 shards and adv hone whenever it is the case in T4
chrome geyser
nvm then
robust birch
lo siento
still lintel
maybe halfway of chap 3?
have you killed the lightning woman?
ancient tundra
have you killed the lightning woman? <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
Send pic
neon cedar
nvm then
It's general chat, if youre looking for help try #lost-ark-help
But tbh youre almost 1640 with a 25 weapon. You surely can make a choice yourself
chrome geyser
It's general chat, if youre looking for help try <#903532775200665671>
But tbh ...
ty mb I didn't know how to approach the efficiency rationale
neon cedar
Its not like there is a right or wrong answer
worn current
maybe halfway of chap 3?
im in chapter 2 by the way
robust birch
this is not general
worn current
<:BiancaThumbUp:910236094040248351>
ancient tundra
Nikke server sus
gleaming pendant
kang jin star 
worn current
ancient tundra
What you weirdga at
swift lava
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986> <:Weirdga:992251579975602258> <:Weirdga:1225395585...
No u
robust birch
blissful rose
modern grail
urban obsidian
nice enter key
midnight marlin
look at this shindum
uneven mortar
lmfaooooo
worn current
What is that?
low nebula
damn
still lintel
wtf is wuwa server time 
ancient tundra
Only normal person not a big weeb ggs shin
low nebula
deep
ancient tundra
modern grail
??
urban obsidian
shin got
modern grail
it was me
modern grail
still lintel
do i sleep mid day and wake up for wow expansion launch?
bitter lichen
<:Susge:1065387133990355014> do i sleep mid day and wake up for wow expansion la...
refund while u can
celest crater
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1ekudp6/solo_loading_arise_disastr...
sees netmarble
I expected that to happen
midnight marlin
shartshooper
blissful rose
FEMALE ARCHER
still lintel
im shooting a bow tomorrow
midnight marlin
not until spring at least buddy
blissful rose
still lintel
@nova garden https://tfd.nexon.com/en/news/2627289
burnt tree
Good game
midnight marlin
https://tenor.com/view/tzu-yu-gif-22500462
the arrow is nocked incorrectly
burnt tree
the arrow is nocked incorrectly
Tsk tsk
bitter lichen
the arrow is nocked incorrectly
burnt tree
still lintel
FUUUUUUU
bitter lichen
how
midnight marlin
arrows have three feathers, one featehr is marked with a different color
the different one is supposed to be ion the inside
satho's gif doesnt show it well
still lintel
where community market<:shruge:1100304847183560726>
we getting a merchant but its in october
blissful rose
still lintel
@ancient tundra
death stalker farm
still lintel
damn 1 day after tier 4
should be easier than glutton with juiced up season 1 power 
stark thicket
<@801598350599520256>
stark thicket
What you weirdga at
still lintel
maybe you should do that to bosses instead of me 
so you wont be stuck for 30 tries
urban obsidian
@modern grail So dum
modern grail
shut yalls asses
dull obsidian
and if I don't?
hexed spindle
in what situation is los 18 stronger than deep dive 30? when boss is weak to holy + lwc 30 on supp? or even when supp has lwc is enough? or basicly never?
modern grail
modern grail
and if I don't?
i kiss u
dull obsidian
ok
modern grail
and if I don't?
u too
modern grail
dull obsidian
shin is gonna kiss me twice
modern grail
modern grail
<@420339298781495297> https://open.spotify.com/track/3yQJ2X7Jpufw6vnIhA3ZRb?si=a...
fuufu ijou ending
still lintel
mizu and ishy?
midnight marlin
in what situation is los 18 stronger than deep dive 30? when boss is weak to hol...
some combination of lwc, weapon quality, nightmare, holy weak makes los 18 better
usually dd is better
but also los 18 gets you into lobbies
hexed spindle
is los 18 really better for gatekeeping tho? i have like 3 los cards on 2 points and only merchants maxed xd
modern grail
is los 18 really better for gatekeeping tho? i have like 3 los cards on 2 points...
yea
midnight marlin
if you're deciding to use selectors to finish los 18, dont
modern grail
i sometimes get gatekept with dd30
midnight marlin
you get gatekept cause you're on blacklist
modern grail
?????
hexed spindle
nah i have los 18 but like 3 cards max and 3 cards on 2 xd
modern grail
no slander in my name pls
dull obsidian
dude
modern grail
still lintel
shin fucking BLOCKED
supple parrot
sheeesh finally done with act3 
urban obsidian
<@420339298781495297> https://open.spotify.com/track/3yQJ2X7Jpufw6vnIhA3ZRb?si=a...
knowers know
urban obsidian
you get gatekept cause you're on blacklist
based
@uneven mortar ur rich
wanna gift me wukong
dull obsidian
modern grail
https://open.spotify.com/track/3Hfata4DJDmrXRZEc8sXWC?si=8783ab95413546a6
hana no towah
midnight marlin
ONE STEP TWO STEP
urban obsidian
smth smth
modern grail
deez four deez j
urban obsidian
three step four step
midnight marlin
shit song
burnt tree
urban obsidian
urban obsidian
gilded forge
~ hai
gilded forge
@urban obsidian
swift lava
Why you send a friend request
gilded forge
<:CAUGHT:1225790699044081704>
Anime to watch ?
Best show recommendation
No soy shows pref but not strictly
storm bronze
me
swift lava
lol
urban obsidian
@queen grail wukong is balanced lol
stark thicket
“Felt cute might delete later”
swift lava
I only play games where I can play hot men character
modern grail
ye cus u gay
dry shadow
why have akkan lobbys become so jailish recently?
blissful rose
old content
safe lark
because its 2easy to get 1600
gilded forge
why have akkan lobbys become so jailish recently?
They arent bad if you are very selective on who you play with
blissful rose
dry shadow
They arent bad if you are very selective on who you play with
what are your criterias to be sure that'll be a smooth run?
bitter lichen
ye cus u gay
gilded forge
what are your criterias to be sure that'll be a smooth run?
I usually look at a bunch of things, roster level, title, gems, demon damage, card set, etc
dry shadow
yeah but see, the only thing I'd require is the person not to die, cuz dmg can be done by me or others
stark thicket
I only play games where I can play hot men character
gilded forge
I will never take applicants below like 140 roster into the group, usually not too strict with gems but making sure they have them on the right skills, usually prefer to see 2%+ demon damage, los30 is usually a good indicator that theyve been playing for a while, if not los30, dd30 bare minimum cardset
turbid oriole
I will never take applicants below like 140 roster into the group, usually not too strict with gems but making sure they have them on the right skills, usually prefer to see 2%+ demon damage, los30 is usually a good indicator that theyve been playing for a while, if not los30, dd30 bare minimum cardset
gilded forge
Title, I look for a recent content title like LQ/CM and thats p much all
stark thicket
I will never take applicants below like 140 roster into the group, usually not too strict with gems but making sure they have them on the right skills, usually prefer to see 2%+ demon damage, los30 is usually a good indicator that theyve been playing for a while, if not los30, dd30 bare minimum cardset
dry shadow
alright
bitter lichen
alright
gilded forge
yeah but see, the only thing I'd require is the person not to die, cuz dmg can b...
I think that
gilded forge
If u gatekeep too leniently like
stark thicket
How were dumplings
i wanna make dumplings
turbid oriole
gilded forge
If the person does not look like they care about completing the raid quickly then you will get people who are going to mess up endlessly
dry shadow
yeah but that's always the same, I don't wanna lobby simulator for 30mins just to get "decent" players for a akkan run
stark thicket
gilded forge
Even after you’ve filled the party with everyone meeting my expectations
uneven mortar
gilded forge
You’re going to have 1-2 people who are just 
dry shadow
if that's just 1-2 ppl
gilded forge
Like non contributors who cannot play their class or whatever
dry shadow
I swear I get some ppl that play against us sometimes
gilded forge
But they usually wont be detrimental to clearing the raid, they’re just not helping it go faster
As long as they know how to not be obstacles, you’ve done pretty good selecting your party
gilded forge
Um
dry shadow
"select ppl not being obstacles"
gilded forge
I feel like its been that way for a while
Idk basically ever since i started playing
dry shadow
I swear akkan lobbies were so cool like in january or so
dry shadow
yeah me too, i might be biased
gilded forge
Sometimes the runs were not so good depending on how many obstacles we took just out of caring for eachother and trying to help out
dry shadow
well yeah they were
neon cedar
Nah, there has been endless complainging about akkan, just like every raid
gilded forge
Most of the lobbies i get into nowadays are not problematic
neon cedar
Hard modes g4 has always been a sore spot for people
gilded forge
Just like across the board
neon cedar
Honestly 99% of the lobbies I join over anytime are fine
buoyant wagon
Everyone good at the game doesn’t need to do akkan any more
gilded forge
I think thats bc of player decline maybe
dry shadow
Everyone good at the game doesn’t need to do akkan any more
yeah I think that's the point actually
that's exactly why it is how it is
neon cedar
Player decline doesnt mean youre raiding with the same people. 5k people playing or 500k, if everyone in my lobby is different, game population is irrelevant to lobby skill
buoyant wagon
Player decline definitely affects lobby quality
dry shadow
my dream we get one day a warcraftlogs equivalent
buoyant wagon
Any drop in players is going to pull some number of decent players from party finder
neon cedar
Then my lobbies fill slower
gilded forge
Yeah u arent just random number generating ur party
More players = more people that meet your gatekeep standard = able to make higher gatekeep standard
vast dune
this game is so ded, no pt for brel, valtan, vykas, kayangel, mass bots in chaos gate...
buoyant wagon
Public logs would be the death of casuals in this game
gilded forge
this game is so ded, no pt for brel, valtan, vykas, kayangel, mass bots in chaos...
Now those raids
Those raids are literally like year and a half + old
Thats like going to a raid from an expansion that happened 4 years ago in another mmo and saying wow nobody here game dead
vast dune
doesnt matter, new player still exists not many but they are there, and leave very quick
buoyant wagon
People like Piimpollo would never be able to multiplayer raid
gilded forge
Thats what Solo raids are for to b fair
vague stirrup
this game is so ded, no pt for brel, valtan, vykas, kayangel, mass bots in chaos...
What is pt?
dry shadow
party ?
stark thicket
People like Piimpollo would never be able to multiplayer raid
How do you know what piimpollo does.. what if he is actually god gamer?
buoyant wagon
Solo raids don’t cover the top 3 raids
dry shadow
Public logs would be the death of casuals in this game
you think?
gilded forge
Like in todays day and age for the game the only people who should be doing brel for gold earning is like people who literally just downloaded the game less than 3 months ago
blissful rose
What is pt?
party finder
buoyant wagon
<:Comfy:905213101576687656> How do you know what piimpollo does.. what if he is ...
Because people who raided with him have said he’s terrible
blissful rose
prb meant pf
stark thicket
Because people who raided with him have said he’s terrible
he still did echidna before mizu
gilded forge
Public logs would be the death of casuals in this game
Its kind of already a thing
neon cedar
He was comaplaining about echidna lobbies before mizu was even 1630
buoyant wagon
Public logs are not really a thing
gilded forge
But its not fully fledged and well made/known
Like u have to selectively upload the logs
But u can then view them afterwards
dry shadow
Like u have to selectively upload the logs
where do you upload them ?
wind dagger
who's going to voluntarily do that
gilded forge
it’s on fausts website
gilded forge
<:KEKW:834726120606924850> who's going to voluntarily do that
Many people
buoyant wagon
People who parse chase
dry shadow
it’s on fausts website
can you dm it ?
buoyant wagon
And want to show off
wind dagger
People who parse chase
idd
buoyant wagon
lol people uploaded top 10 thaemine logs
gilded forge
Im setting mine to auto upload as soon as they implement that function
buoyant wagon
AGS didn’t do anything
gilded forge
I dont think meter should b banned
I think its a big part of what makes the game fun for me at least
dry shadow
it shouldn't
wind dagger
gilded forge
I like to tinker with my build based on what data you get back from the meter, like before I downloaded it I had no idea what my crit rate was
But then you see your crit is at 40% and its like, oh so my build is probably not very optimized
gilded forge
Pretty much more or less
vague stirrup
party finder
ic
is that a button that you press for game to find you a party, or is that the regular "go find your own group here's the list"?
Sorry for stupidest question I just don't know interface on global that well
gilded forge
Or to see like skill cast breakdowns, ap buffs etc
zealous lintel
Problem with the meter in LOA is, its shit compared to other games websites and third party tools
blissful rose
ic
is that a button that you press for game to find you a party, or is that the ...
just the regular list
gilded forge
Like how boring is support if u cant see uptime % afterwards
zealous lintel
Casuals wouldnt benifit from it either way tho. Player base too small
vague stirrup
just the regular list
thank you 
gilded forge
I really dont know why anyone would want to main supp on like korea where its not allowed
wintry depot
ic
is that a button that you press for game to find you a party, or is that the ...
Isnt it the same interface than ru ?
blissful rose
prb called smth else
buoyant wagon
I prefer minimal 3rd party tool usage compared to like WoW
vague stirrup
Isnt it the same interface than ru ?
It's just that there're two buttons and I don't know which translates to what.
wintry depot
Well yeah, something in russian
buoyant wagon
Where you need like half a dozen addons to function
buoyant wagon
Not happening unless China gets approved to have meter
gilded forge
I would fear that they are going to be too selective with what info is shared and what is not
urban obsidian
dude why is the league client so shit 
buoyant wagon
And meter is probably the red line SG won’t cross
gilded forge
Not happening unless China gets approved to have meter
Taiwan already is getting it i thought
buoyant wagon
No they aren’t
blissful rose
dude why is the league client so shit <a:OMEGADANCE:1193771745811890247>
bring back the old one
gilded forge
Where did i hear that from
wind dagger
fake news
buoyant wagon
Surely someone won’t lie on the internet
vague stirrup
How tf she holds it 😭
wintry depot
Didnt people say china getting one ?
gilded forge
Well anyways yeah i think its probably better to just let meter be 3rd party allowed/use at your own discretion for the western audience
buoyant wagon
No
wind dagger
How tf she holds it 😭
that's a fucking sword
wintry depot
I guess it was a lie
vague stirrup
that's a fucking sword
Yes it is
buoyant wagon
Their anni stream mentioned they can’t do anything without SG’s permission
And that they’re gathering more input
buoyant wagon
And that it’s a hotly requested feature
zealous lintel
How tf she holds it 😭
looks good enough for me? I mean she is not about to go fencing with it xD
wind dagger
that would expose our KR base, we don't want that with how already toxic inven is 
gilded forge
I mean i would say that having meter boosts the enjoyability of the game for me
Like on certain patch days where meter is down until it can be uodated
vague stirrup
Anyway Brel lobbies at 1pm on thursday on RU that's not really known to have exactly high population
gilded forge
I usually dont feel like even playing until its updated on those days
buoyant wagon
SG has their own reasons for not wanting it
buoyant wagon
There’s a lot of convenient excuses they can hide behind
vague stirrup
The only reason not to introduce better display of information is probably because their spaghetti code will blow up
Given that KR are stat gremlins
blissful rose
the casuals will blow up
buoyant wagon
They also don’t want you to gatekeep even harder than you already do
vague stirrup
And MMO is literally about being stat gremlin
buoyant wagon
Why do you think this dumbfuck gate system exists
It’s part to discourage bussing
Part to encourage people sticking it out with their group
gilded forge
Wait how
buoyant wagon
If you could freely quit gates, shitters would never get their raids done
gilded forge
I feel like gate design cant be that effective at discouraging bussing
buoyant wagon
Because everyone would just immediately leave the moment they smell something wrong
gilded forge
True
buoyant wagon
You wouldn’t be incentivized to try a few more pulls or just suck it up and hope you can carry
vague stirrup
discourages bussing
makes busses prices blow up to the sky
people still buy it making economy a living hell cause there's a group of extremely high income players
plan didn't work, well time to do nothing about it
gilded forge
I mean i would still do that at certain chokepoints ig
Usually g2s that have g3s are not a good place to disconnect
gilded forge
>discourages bussing
>makes busses prices blow up to the sky
>people still buy i...
he knows
wind dagger
You wouldn’t be incentivized to try a few more pulls or just suck it up and hope...
Well players already do that with how many raids they have to do...
gilded forge
Im not mad about the bussing dilemma
zealous lintel
If you could freely quit gates, shitters would never get their raids done
dunno if that holds tho. Maybe it does cause LOA on a fundemental lvl is too much for the average gamer dad. But the same thing happens in non gated MMOs like WoW. You just quit at a boss and wait until next id.
wind dagger
No wait that's TFM
gilded forge
If you cant beat them, join them
surreal bolt
zealous lintel
dunno if that holds tho. Maybe it does cause LOA on a fundemental lvl is too muc...
Or have someone share the same.
zealous lintel
you can get by without raiding in WoW
True, but i was talking more about the statement in itself
buoyant wagon
>discourages bussing
>makes busses prices blow up to the sky
>people still buy i...
The answer is obvious
Too many players bus for them to kill it
gilded forge
I enjoy the very raid centric style of this game
wind dagger
buoyant wagon
But they don’t want to encourage it because bussing circumvents the soft gold cap weekly
still lintel
cant wait for this 
buoyant wagon
Notice how everything has a soft time gate in the game
gilded forge
Too many players bus for them to kill it
I would not be able to play f2p without bussing and if i cant play f2p then i guess im skipping town to the next game soooo
buoyant wagon
You’re limited on materials and gold and silver per week
Want to break the soft cap? Swipe the credit card
wind dagger
Or
vague stirrup
You wouldn’t be incentivized to try a few more pulls or just suck it up and hope...
I mean
People also gatekeep others into oblivion cause good luck finding g2 ivory unjail party for example
A huge reason not to finish g1 boss and get out of raid to kick an idiot was cause it would be a jail for my group yesterday
buoyant wagon
Or bus
wind dagger
Or the other one 
buoyant wagon
But SG makes 0 money off that
gilded forge
Bussing is a cool concept and i enjoy the gameplay of it
Its more fun than doing the raid in the intended way usually
vague stirrup
ngl I feel like making money off coomer whales was a far superior strategy for many games LOA included
gilded forge
Theres a bit more of an added layer of coordination which makes it feel more fun to me i think
gilded forge
ngl I feel like making money off coomer whales was a far superior strategy for m...
TRUE
We needed a bigger skins department to make coomer skins back when the game was popping off still
No more of these fantasy armor skins that look like you just finished slaying 100,000 foes
buoyant wagon
Skins don’t make nearly as much money as you think they do
Especially when people can just buy them with gold
gilded forge
We really needed the skins that look like you just got back from tanning at the beach
zealous lintel
ngl I feel like making money off coomer whales was a far superior strategy for m...
Problem with that is, LOA is power creep centric. They would get a pretty dime but not as much as they want to since most people are interested in power creep
gilded forge
True xdding
zealous lintel
People fomo power and character progression even more than skins
gilded forge
Actually
wind dagger
Most people sound like all dps players, support players in shambles
gilded forge
No not true
gilded forge
Ive seen some fking wild customization and skin combos in this game
Seeing naked spiderman is not on my todo list while fighting thaemine
zealous lintel
Most people sound like all dps players, support players in shambles
problem with support is, you cant really feel your improvement of gear and ilvl. Like take the ark passives for example. They just redistributed their yearning set into points
zealous lintel
i bet more people would play support in general if you could see anything except "i buffed better"
buoyant wagon
No
mighty hawk
Which Akkan gear is recommended for gunslinger?
wind dagger
support is useless (except buffing, shield and healing)
buoyant wagon
People just do not want to play support in any game
gilded forge
Which Akkan gear is recommended for gunslinger?
Nightmare
vague stirrup
problem with support is, you cant really feel your improvement of gear and ilvl....
your team certainly does tho
like when my damage spikes up from 90m with a shitty support to 150 with a great on
gilded forge
People just do not want to play support in any game
Based
zealous lintel
your team certainly does tho
like when my damage spikes up from 90m with a shitt...
yeah, they do but i dont
midnight lightBOT
stark thicket
160 dollar supporter pack
blissful rose
Which Akkan gear is recommended for gunslinger?
Check the guide above
gilded forge
But without meter it would not be
blissful rose
and ask questions in #lost-ark-help
zealous lintel
People just do not want to play support in any game
it wouldnt be a traditional support tho. thats the problem all in all. people always think shielding and healing. could be done better
blissful rose
So u don't get burried here
buoyant wagon
People don’t want to be a cheerleader
zealous lintel
ark passive was actually a chance to rework support per se
buoyant wagon
They want to be the quarterback
vague stirrup
ngl I'll be happy to play my artist
jump around, rotate buffs, sometimes counter, sometimes cleanse with portals
gilded forge
I want next class to be supporter type
vague stirrup
She's 1460, the only issue
gilded forge
Maybe like an alchemist
zealous lintel
i like supporting as well
buoyant wagon
Supports have some of the greatest game impact in a game like Dota
Still least desirable role
zealous lintel
and only artist cause you actually can make "little plays"
buoyant wagon
Support is even more boring to play in LoA
thorn sluice
I want another entropy char
wind dagger
Why would one want to play support when you can deal billions of damage in short time
thorn sluice
vague stirrup
Well in Dota you just get flamed into oblivion KURWA echoing in your ears for hours after your game session
buoyant wagon
In fact it’s probably one of the worst to play
stark thicket
People don’t want to be a cheerleader
wrong... playing support is fun if thats what you enjoy doing, i like support, its easier to catch peoples mistakes and call it out . I can focus on keeping team up and seeing mechs for call outs
different take
zealous lintel
the thing, we dont need an off set of 50% support vs 50% dps. 15-25% would be enough
blissful rose
I want another entropy char
FEMALE ARCHER
thorn sluice
FEMALE ARCHER:LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO:
buoyant wagon
<:hm:1260843335699009579> wrong... playing support is fun if thats what you enjo...
This is not a popular opinion
thorn sluice
stark thicket
This is not a popular opinion
buoyant wagon
Otherwise there wouldn’t be a support shortage in every game
stark thicket
but it still is a valid opinion either way
thorn sluice
FEMALE ARCHER<:LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO:825649245654089728>
Archer entropy looks weird af
buoyant wagon
It costs $0 to make a healer in FF14
All your classes are on one character
Still a healer shortage
stark thicket
Honestly, if they did away with support and balanced game around all dps classes that would be great
blissful rose
Archer entropy looks weird af
she can be an exclusive side attacker for all I care
just give
buoyant wagon
Too late for them to remove support
gilded forge
I would rather have people who play support because they want to, and enjoy it rather than because they feel like they are fulfilling a sense of duty by simply existing
zealous lintel
never had problems finiding a heal in wow
stark thicket
Too late for them to remove support
oh well
stark thicket
never had problems finiding a heal in wow
tank shortage in wow mostly
buoyant wagon
Wow lacks tanks
zealous lintel
<:Susge:1065387133990355014> tank shortage in wow mostly
y
gilded forge
This is a slight self report but yeah
buoyant wagon
Which is basically another form of support
gilded forge
My support was an artist
zealous lintel
but still
stark thicket
tank is fun asf ngl
thorn sluice
This is a slight self report but yeah
zealous lintel
there is no real shortage there regarding heals
stark thicket
especially when tanks are another dps that control the flow of the game
gilded forge
I feel like if you make an artist just to decrease supp shortage you’re better off just not making the support
stark thicket
but then you do some big head strat and dps are small head
zealous lintel
you just need to make support engaging and not a stat stick for your dps
blissful rose
support female archer
thorn sluice
support female archer
gilded forge
Thats why i enjoy it lately :>
wind dagger
Supports have no movement in Lost Ark if you think about it. Even Artist portal for other chars to use
gilded forge
I mean i dont see why that matters
buoyant wagon
see: Guild wars 2
wind dagger
Static character doing buff, shield and healing
gilded forge
It can be true but still means nothing / has no relevance
zealous lintel
monk in wow was a good step into the right direction in my opinion. could be expanded further and would fit LOA as well.
stark thicket
support female archer
Support destroyer 
.. get smashed by fem destroyer boobi and get healed
gilded forge
zealous lintel
deal dps = heal
blissful rose
zealous lintel
or give % of whatever
blissful rose
Support destroyer <:alowoko:1228663431482048593> .. get smashed by fem destroyer...
female archer is missing from that ecuation
thorn sluice
deal dps = heal
This isn’t Metin 2
gilded forge
thorn sluice
zealous lintel
This isn’t Metin 2
Thats in WoW as well
blissful rose
Metin 2
stark thicket
female archer is missing from that ecuation
i had an idea that i remember from a ecchi anime but its a bit 2 much
zealous lintel
Like old priests PI as well. Something something
buoyant wagon
Lifesteal won’t change the fact that supports are largely atk buff bots
And DR on demand
zealous lintel
Lifesteal won’t change the fact that supports are largely atk buff bots
Well it would if the support could also deal compareable damage to dps.
gilded forge
I will enter raid > not press buttons and get my content bussed for me for free
buoyant wagon
Then the whole game needs to be rebalanced around that
gilded forge
zealous lintel
Since the main point. DPS = big number
buoyant wagon
Support utility would have to be gutted
gilded forge
I wish they would do something more with supp
buoyant wagon
And people who spent a shit ton of money and don’t want such a drastic change quit
zealous lintel
Then the whole game needs to be rebalanced around that
exactly. they had the chance with ark passive. instead they just threw the yearning set in for good measure.
zealous lintel
Support utility would have to be gutted
well it wont, if you actually design around the dps.
buoyant wagon
If supports did comparable dps to actual dps
zealous lintel
thats what i said above with monk or old priest
buoyant wagon
Why the fuck would they get the best utility in the game also
stark thicket
Metin 2<:ICANT:1161684449738629211>
new female archer... Soma Queen.. if you seen The Qwaser of Stigmata anime then you know what im talking about.
zealous lintel
they wouldnt
gilded forge
exactly. they had the chance with ark passive. instead they just threw the yearn...
Imagine if they implemented smth like knights vow in league
zealous lintel
cause supports in itself wouldnt be "supports" anymore
you would get a tiny % of them for dealing their "compareable damage"
zealous lintel
Imagine if they implemented smth like knights vow in league
something along those lines
gilded forge
U can tether to one dps in your party and they get some benefit for not breaking the tether or smth
zealous lintel
big cds like PI from priest
stark thicket
<a:worrypopcorn:1267880039051956326>
zealous lintel
there are so many ideas to take from
rare quartz
did u guys get a "solo token" npc shop with solo raids?
zealous lintel
but they didnt bother
wind dagger
Ark passives is why I am not enthousiastic about the games direction
zealous lintel
cause its too much work
gilded forge
Like if bard can choose to tether to their fmh souleater and as long as they dont break the tether the souleater gets +(x)% increased identity meter gain
buoyant wagon
Why do you expect them to reinvent the wheel for supports in a game that’s 5 years old
People are too baked into how the class plays for them to completely upend it
gilded forge
That would be kinda fun i think
gilded forge
Maybe some people would have just seen it as annoying tho
zealous lintel
and there is market in the west for it. dunno about korea
buoyant wagon
Those changes don’t work in a game where people have shelled out fat stacks of cash and are used to playing a certain way for years
West makes no money
They give 0 fucks about this region
gilded forge
The direction of the game is very set in its path already for sure
rare quartz
@buoyant wagon did u do solo raids?
zealous lintel
dps will stay dps tho. only people would be the "shortage supports"
gilded forge
Its hard to imagine them radically shaking things up at this point
rare quartz
do u guys have a solo raid token npc?
buoyant wagon
Yes
rare quartz
are u able to get that token from 8man? or purely solo
wind dagger
I do but I barely do solo raids, only when bored
gilded forge
are u able to get that token from 8man? or purely solo
Both
buoyant wagon
are u able to get that token from 8man? or purely solo
Only if that raid has a solo mode
gilded forge
Yes
blissful rose
yea
wind dagger
are u able to get that token from 8man? or purely solo
Holy shit you still alive
rare quartz
got it thanks!
rare quartz
Holy shit you still alive <:HUH:1012917714706235472>
yep. hello
buoyant wagon
if the solo version exists then you can get tokens from multiplayer
wind dagger
buoyant wagon
if it doesn’t (such as thaemine), you don’t
gilded forge
I wish they made the old abyssal dungeons solo card runnable
rare quartz
got it. thx
gilded forge
A few weeks ago i was only a few cards off los30
gilded forge
Would have been nice to be able to do
buoyant wagon
People in Korea famously sell all their gems and quit whenever they don’t like a balance patch for their class
gilded forge
buoyant wagon
they definitely aren’t risking that by doing a complete overhaul of supports
wind dagger
Supports quitting might be worse than dps quitting? 
buoyant wagon
Their data also shows no support shortage for them outside of like behemoth
gilded forge
Its pretty based of them to respond like that
buoyant wagon
Which is irrelevant now that t4 is a thing
wind dagger
Wdym
gilded forge
Their data prob shows them exactly what the ratio is per ilvl
I doubt like they are only collecting how many total supp and how many total dps
And just assuming its equally spread throughout all content levels
buoyant wagon
They’ve talked about it before
gilded forge
It would be my guess they have some sort of indepth charts that can point to exact numbers and percentages
buoyant wagon
Their ratios are basically fine except for behemoth
gilded forge
If not, that’s a big oversight
Yeah behemoth is an interesting case
16 player raid
buoyant wagon
Because 1640 prior to t4 is a bitch to hone to
gilded forge
I wonder how that will perform in the west
I have a feeling that we are not in for a good time
Wonder what the average non streamer wait time is to fill their behemoth lobby
buoyant wagon
Itll just be 1620s complaining about getting gatekept after they jump to 1640
supple parrot
DUDE I JUST SPENT AN HOUR RUNNING IN CIRCLES, WHY IS THERE NO MINI MAP
wind dagger
We are not yeah our ccu is too low
supple parrot
???????????????
gilded forge
Like when u watch memo, atk, zeals filling lob for behemoth
Its like basically already full on arrival
wind dagger
DUDE I JUST SPENT AN HOUR RUNNING IN CIRCLES, WHY IS THERE NO MINI MAP
?
Why you gotta be so loud
gilded forge
Surely its going to be like an hour to get the lobby together for most of us in the west though haha
wind dagger
Are you a cicada
buoyant wagon
As long as you have the ilvl
It’s not going to be hard to fill a lobby
Especially since rat 1620 supports are plenty
buoyant wagon
As long as they press their buttons it’s fine
gilded forge
Depends how the prog week experience is as well
buoyant wagon
Its a brain dead raid
gilded forge
It is said to be pretty easy / free but they also said that about echidna so
gilded forge
Prog week was no bueno
buoyant wagon
And people greed too hard
supple parrot
Are you a cicada
I WISH
gilded forge
I think the difficulty of the raid is different from how punishing it is whilst not knowing the raid
buoyant wagon
If you find behemoth hard you probably need to uninstall
gilded forge
Like echidna is extremely punishing if you dont know the raid since the charm mechanic can wipe ur whole team
buoyant wagon
Mechnically it’s pretty much a cross between a trixion dummy and guardian
gilded forge
Behemoth, it looks like the “the need to know the fight” is not as required as echidna was
wintry depot
Dont forget that theres 8 revives aswell
gilded forge
But from my limited amount of time watching people do it, there is still some complexity in the sequence of breaking the things
buoyant wagon
The only groups that will actually struggle are the 1640 upjumps
stark thicket
Bring back Hell Mode Velganos
How about hell mode argussy with 200% increased frequency of abilities.
gilded forge
Like people will have to know based on their assignment where to break which piece of the dragon
thorn sluice
How about hell mode argussy with 200% increased frequency of abilities.
uninstall
wind dagger
It's wild how SG doesn't think of reintroducing earlier guardians or do a gauntlet rotation with guardians but at the highest levels one can do
wind dagger
How about hell mode argussy with 200% increased frequency of abilities.
G3 yeah
stark thicket
<:xddkoko:1270069751812587540> uninstall
buoyant wagon
It's wild how SG doesn't think of reintroducing earlier guardians or do a gauntl...
Because nobody actually likes guardians
gilded forge
Because nobody actually likes guardians
Agreeee
thorn sluice
https://tenor.com/view/chikawa-good-morning-gif-2462178998468213398
no nightmares today ?
gilded forge
Veskal is sum shiettt
stark thicket
Why cant I do solo mode old content for loot and gear btw
stark thicket
no nightmares today ? <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
There was
dry shadow
I like parsing on sonavel tho :<
wind dagger
Why cant I do solo mode old content for loot and gear btw
Doing card runs in your own is better than waiting for 4 man
thorn sluice
Im still 1620 
stark thicket
no nightmares today ? <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
wind dagger
I like parsing on sonavel tho :<
buoyant wagon
Guardians are basically a relic of Season 1 where LoA was trying to be a discount Monster Hunter
wind dagger
How about you parse Velganos
buoyant wagon
But because the game had no content otherwise they couldn’t get rid of it
stark thicket
Parse 
dry shadow
I'd OS it 
thorn sluice
How about you parse Velganos
Ok go
gilded forge
One thing nice abt guardian raid
Once u have finished all raids etc and want to playtest new class or w/e
dry shadow
^
gilded forge
Then u have a dummy that moves around at least
gilded forge
Other than that
dry shadow
I farmed sonavel when I was learning empress
thorn sluice
#rng-luck-fails message @cursive ruin when did you drop this
cursive ruin
https://discord.com/channels/212635560596996097/985680627762348092/1275858091656...
in sona yesterday
mighty hawk
I think I accidentally deleted a lvl 7 gem...
blissful rose
stark thicket
in sona yesterday
net why you been quiet today
cursive ruin
<:Mokowow:1079852195173896253> net why you been quiet today
i just woke up
wind dagger
wind dagger
U Mean 2pm
blissful rose
14am
wind dagger
🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
hallow island
i hate life, cant get enough sleep cuz work
thorn sluice
Isn’t it vykas
stark thicket
I wanna sleep and dream
untold valve
stark thicket
Please send me to a dreamscape
thorn sluice
You are crazy af man
untold valve
im addicted
thorn sluice
Some1 gotta remove pc from you
blissful rose
blissful rose
net 2.0
thorn sluice
untold valve
next express
sharpshooter
and then bard
and then i uninstall the game
cuz burnout will finally hit me
thorn sluice
Sharp shooter you will get bored in 1 month
thorn sluice
Play more challenging chars or you will quit for real
stark thicket
<:Sus:886655440065298452>
Nets second account in case Ukrainian hacker takes over again
untold valve
im limited on my choices
stark thicket
thorn sluice
Because is fun
untold valve
and sharpshooter is the way
thorn sluice
Ss isn’t fun at all
untold valve
im not buying another slot
thorn sluice
You get bored in 1 month
thorn sluice
If you want to be different play EW
Challenging and fun
And like 1% of deadeyes plays ew
untold valve
im not buying a slot
blissful rose
delete ss and wait for female archer release
blissful rose
kill sorc
thorn sluice
blissful rose
thorn sluice
Gigachad SpongeBob the whale is going to delete a 1620 char
untold valve
bro..............
thorn sluice
Just to play 1500 SS
untold valve
u know me stop lying
thorn sluice
thorn sluice
u know me stop lying
Ye I’m joking
thorn sluice
untold valve
soon 1540
i cant solo brel
g4
if i stick with my db
i will get 5th 1620
with no gold spent
stark thicket
<:CAUGHT:1261825617704390736>
Don't make SpongeBob mad
untold valve
😳
stark thicket
gilded forge
distant charm
Deathless gear repairless run
gilded forge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1258512258661613702/1273947439287631892/i...
xdding
thorn sluice
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1013378471025705011/1202142216395690014...
Was it the deathless run
gilded forge
Deathless gear repairless run
yea, rip DL
thorn sluice
Hell ?
thorn sluice
distant charm
My adhd doesnt allow me to even have the damn icon up there
Any yellow instantly gets repaired
C L E A N
G E A R
distant charm
Yo where in TARNATION do I get the damn expert or relic kits for life skill
gilded forge
distant charm
My ass trynna grab some berries
gilded forge
um
gilded forge
I mean
vague stirrup
Yo where in TARNATION do I get the damn expert or relic kits for life skill
buy them then craft specific tools in stronghold
distant charm
buy them then craft specific tools in stronghold
AH?
rugged lynx
why would i repair it if it just gonna get broken again
'why take a shower when I'm gonna get dirty again'
distant charm
Im not making enough gold yet to spend it on that then
gilded forge
'why take a shower when I'm gonna get dirty again'
smart man
distant charm
Oh the legendary one aint too bad
gilded forge
that's why i'm 5 years showerless
rugged lynx
that's why i'm 5 years showerless
foul 
vague stirrup
yeah I got myself a legendary kit and made myself a fishing rod
huge improvement
highly recommend
vague stirrup
I know a person like that
Imagine scaring people at 1540 with your full 10s
cause you have like 4 charas of same class
vague stirrup
50 more from cards and legacy related shit
vague stirrup
like I get 24 from legacy and 36 from cards
vague stirrup
like I get 24 from legacy and 36 from cards <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
OK THAT MESSAGE WAS SENT 12 YEARS AGO
blissful rose
