lost-ark-discussions

[sand marsh]

[urban obsidian]

you can main a class and still know the way theyre designed is bad

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/rar-cat-meow-christmas-gif-4271871885454424166

[queen grail]

It's a bit different too want a different design on support's and make them more fun to play and to just want to scrap all supports completely tho

[sand marsh]

If all paladins rebelled and went dps smilegate would have to do something, either nerf it to the ground or do something else

[stark thicket]

you sucked teh wig off me

[queen grail]

Implying that Zerker's would be fun if you just removed Red Dust

[sand marsh]

it would be lol

[stark thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1193744846876311622.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[sand marsh]

zerkers have been asking for that to be removed for a longggg time

[queen grail]

just remove zerkers, problem solved.

[sand marsh]

remove supports, problem solved

[queen grail]

Bad class anyway

[sand marsh]

[queen grail]

How will you prog if you can't do it on support

[sand marsh]

wdym lol

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-joseph-hey-dude-no-throwing-no-throwing-dont-throw-stuff-gif-23746731

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-elmo-meme-tickle-me-elmo-throw-wall-gif-25202313

[sand marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1255936384141754438.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[fresh scarab]

What if they gave everyone innate healing and shielding

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/lonelyisland-andysamberg-threwitontheground-audio-cellphone-gif-3521384

[fresh scarab]

And then a giant ass dmg multiplier

To everyone

To compensate for no supp buffs

[sand marsh]

jus throw revives in raid, more HP pot usage

[fresh scarab]

And then purify is a rune that can be added on top of other runes

Limit of 1 purify

[queen grail]

They won't do that tho

[wintry depot]

Thats not very nice for people that actually enjoy playing support on every game

[queen grail]

That too, lots of people actually do like to play support.

[sand marsh]

you also know whats not nice

the game itself

poo poo systems

[queen grail]

Kinda scummy to just strip them of their enjoyment because SG can't do their job

[prime wind]

true

[fresh scarab]

What if they give bard and artist a dps spec like pally

[wintry depot]

If i didnt find the game nice, i wouldnt play it

[swift tree]

Artist has a dps spec in T4

[wintry depot]

I like to play support, not dps support

[sand marsh]

cant satisfy everyone. there's no way to magically fix the sup shortage.

[queen grail]

Then, that's not a support is it?

[wintry depot]

Doesnt change anything

[swift tree]

Bard is only one that doesnt

[fresh scarab]

Or

[prime wind]

it does it just plays like ass

[fresh scarab]

What if we took away the dps that artists bards pallies give others

[swift tree]

Eh, it doesn’t do anything much to augment the dps skills it has

[fresh scarab]

And just make their brand and AP buff skills

Deal raw dmg

[queen grail]

There's lots of ways to fix it.
Stop fucking up is the first step.
Make more support classes with better variations of styles.
Make it so you don't have to all use the same fucking stone just that is a start

[fresh scarab]

Their rotation is the same

It just shifts the dps from other people

[sand marsh]

that won't magically fix it tho.

[fresh scarab]

To themselves

[dim lark]

https://tenor.com/view/yinlin-wuwa-wuthering-waves-kuro-kuro-games-gif-6872745150005387563

[sand marsh]

because ultimately, most people like seeing big numbers

dps is more fun to play for majority of people

[stark thicket]

they also like seeing big

[queen grail]

There's no magic in the world to begin with so no magic will do anything, but they could start doing stuff to help with the issues rather then just ignoring it or doing dumb shit like try and make dps spec actual viable so they lose even more people potentially for support roles.

[sand marsh]

the reason why it's not a big deal in other MMOs, is because other MMOs don't have a ever-evolving vertical progression. it resets at some point, or it's easy to obtain and isn't super time-gated.

[queen grail]

If people like to watch big numbers so much.

How come you swapped over to main support?

just for the easier prog raids?

[sand marsh]

You want to give me your credit card?

otherwise that's not an option.

[fresh scarab]

[sand marsh]

my roster is already figured out, i can't change it.

[queen grail]

You swapped INTO support.

[sand marsh]

None of my dps characters have 'big numbers'.

I don't have any meta classes in my roster that are anywhere near 1600

so gimme ur credit card so i can deal big numba

[gleaming pendant]

nah they should give everyone zakum helmet

[fresh scarab]

What if we just kept support rotation the same but their rDPS is their own instead of on other people

[fervent ibex]

My solution: Let supports enter raids as much as they want, and generate the full gold out of it :3 (all gold bound after first clear)

[queen grail]

If only we had multiple events that gave you easy 1600 chars.

[fresh scarab]

FUCK NEXON

[queen grail]

[fresh scarab]

MAPLESTORY SUCKS

[swift tree]

They should just allow that. Period.

[kindred ravine]

LETS GOOO

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/wa-gif-27706614

[sand marsh]

It would set back my roster if I used any event to replace my 6 gold earning.

[sand marsh]

not viable f2p

[fervent ibex]

thoughts on ms2 though?

[fresh scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540933911182835712/1264384008352170034/i0677544577.gif

[fresh scarab]

Search my history

You will find a pattern

[fervent ibex]

no ik ur history matt

[gleaming pendant]

just delete yearning and supports

[fervent ibex]

i just need to see it again

[fresh scarab]

MS2 THE GOATED GAME

MASHALLAH

[fervent ibex]

[gleaming pendant]

his history is the same as pimpillo

[queen grail]

I know how to fix support.

[fervent ibex]

inshallah ms3

[queen grail]

RELEASE ANOTHER DPS

OMEGALUL

[fervent ibex]

u might as well have called matt a slur

thats so crazy

[azure valley]

whaling pattern detected

[swift tree]

RELEASE SUPPORT THAT HAS STRONGER DPS LINE!!

[kindred ravine]

female paladin is what the game needs to win! she'll be so sexy that everyone will play her! it solves the problem!!

[swift tree]

Surely that will solve it

[sand marsh]

surely

[queen grail]

Or just release another cute support and people will flock to it like they did ayayay.

Or a sexy paladin female.

[fresh scarab]

Fuck outta here whalestar

[queen grail]

I mean, more options to pick from, some people will stick around with the new options

Doing nothing and then just adding more worse ways for support to deal with the game is for sure not helping.

[azure valley]

matt the whale

[swift tree]

You get female paladin as long as I get Himbo Bard

[queen grail]

All support's have to re-cut Awakening stone now, stupid af.

[sand marsh]

people are too invested into their main 6 to simply swap it out with a new class. unless you are a whale, in which case, i dont see whales flocking to support at a degree that fixes the sup shortage.

[azure valley]

floatin through the ocean

[fresh scarab]

WHO tf

Is that olav

[queen grail]

All supports now need Dps Gem's but can't get any advantage with Wep Quality still, make it make sense.

[fresh scarab]

You are the ocean

[swift tree]

DPS gems seem unchanged on KR

[fervent ibex]

they shoulda allowed DMG=CD conversion

fuck the gem market

[swift tree]

They should but won’t

[sand marsh]

make it to where when you fuse gems, it has a chance to go down a level

[swift tree]

Yeah, nvm me

[sand marsh]

[fresh scarab]

Oh so we’re doing starforce now

[sand marsh]

yea exactly

[fresh scarab]

Shit game

[queen grail]

True, no whale plays support bro.

This guy Is f2p.

[fervent ibex]

you korean? cuz they about to pay you the big bucks

for that cancer fucking idea

[sand marsh]

im sure he is fixing the entire support shortage right now

[queen grail]

He just has 95,000 hours in the game.

[late portal]

https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1818786204516491524

Dexerto (@Dexerto) on X

Squid Game season 2 trailer dropped

The show has been renewed for a 3rd and final season

Twitter · Jul 31, 2024, 11:09 PM

[fervent ibex]

is this the guy who named himself like "quitting until they fix support"?

or is that another guy

[queen grail]

If you don't think Artist gave us quite a lot more supporters into the end game, then, you do you on that.

[fresh scarab]

Bro ok what if

[fervent ibex]

cuz theres a top support in KR who hasnt played since Ark Passive turned out to be shitter for them lol

[fresh scarab]

Parties with 4 dps get a 1.5x dps multiplier but no shielding or healing from supp

Then people can choose yup

[fervent ibex]

guild wars 2 fuck supports

[queen grail]

Could be this, his char is naked.

No items on etc.

[fervent ibex]

0 support gaming

[sand marsh]

0 support gaming

gigachad

no having to rely on the minority

[fresh scarab]

You still want supp for squishy comps

Tankers can go in the other party

[queen grail]

Says the main support with 6 paladins.

[sand marsh]

i dont have 6 paladins

[queen grail]

I guess you just picked support life because It's easier for you to raid with I get It, some people pick support for the love of the game, others for the easier time, It's ok

[gleaming pendant]

NO BISHOPS

[fresh scarab]

Bro

Bishop is disgustingly overtuned

[sand marsh]

I picked support because of support shortage. and I had no way of replacing my main 6

[fresh scarab]

In almost every sense

Almost as broken as pre nerf kanna

[queen grail]

My bad, 3 paladin's and 2 1600's and a neglected red dust.

[sand marsh]

uh wut

[gleaming pendant]

you are such a maplestory geek

for someone hating maple

[sand marsh]

thats noy my roster lol

[gleaming pendant]

[valid turtle]

i need a sup for hm akhan any takers?

[fresh scarab]

I spent 10 years in that shithole

[queen grail]

@sand marsh Is a support, he has 24 paladins.

[sand marsh]

?misinfo

[urban obsidian]

thast explains why ur so fucking gross

[tawny gate]

Spreading Misinformation is against the rules!

Spreading misinformation intentionally or with malintent is against our server rules. Even as a joke, the truth gets misconstrued and people get confused. This includes editing official sources for the game to imitate the publisher or a GM.
There will be penalties for such actions.

[urban obsidian]

fuckign degenerate loser ass bitch

[queen grail]

Ok, that was a lie, you're still a bald furry weeb tho

[fresh scarab]

God help me I had my final straw when they got exposed

For rigging the rates

From the start

[sand marsh]

i mean, what u posted isnt my roster either

[fresh scarab]

They stealth nerfed cube rates

[gleaming pendant]

[fresh scarab]

EVERY YEAR

FOR FIVE YEARS

[sand marsh]

if it was up to me, slayer would be my main dps.

[queen grail]

??

[sand marsh]

but its not feasible

yea thats wrong

[fresh scarab]

Eat dn

[sand marsh]

not my roster

[urban obsidian]

ok comere bitch

[fresh scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540933911182835712/1264384008352170034/i0677544577.gif

[queen grail]

Who's lying now, you furry.

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-blowing-bubbles-gif-27203196

[sand marsh]

yeah, noy my roster

[queen grail]

In denial about being a weeb, and now about playing 3 supports for that ezRaidLife.

I can't anymore.

https://tenor.com/view/suits-donna-attitude-frustrated-i-can't-take-it-gif-16510125940609079069

[fresh scarab]

Ok but real what if they made 4 dps parties viable and 4 supp parties viable

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540933911182835712/1264384008352170034/i0677544577.gif

[dim lark]

u forgot bald denial

[sand marsh]

this is my roster. what u posted is not. u postin old screenshots.

[queen grail]

It's ok, in T4, I'm just going to hard-gatekeep any and all support "dps" people trying to do raids.

[fresh scarab]

Huh why

[gleaming pendant]

[fresh scarab]

It seems fine

[queen grail]

Because Fuck em

You wanna go dps at end game, go dps

[fresh scarab]

I’m going to gatekeep you for being EU

[sand marsh]

relying on 4 people in the entire game that main support

[dim lark]

why u pushed the paly so much

[quartz turret]

ye just let me change my class real quick

[sand marsh]

seems like a great long term

[sand marsh]

right xdd

[sand marsh]

only character that can hit 1680 in tier 4

[fresh scarab]

Just buff 4 dps parties by 50x and problem solved

[sand marsh]

It had the most bounds and i 3 tapped 25 weapon. I can't abandon it, im not a whale

[queen grail]

So you could have changed to dps anytime you wanted, but you for some weird cringe whale swiper syndrom RMT decided to push paladin to 1650 almost before T4.

[sand marsh]

no i couldnt of

[queen grail]

Just admit it already, you play supports because you want easier raid not because you like playing them.

[fresh scarab]

Hey what if he’s f2p

[queen grail]

He's not.

[fresh scarab]

[queen grail]

He's also a weeb.

[sand marsh]

I am f2p.

[fresh scarab]

See?

[queen grail]

Forced 2 pay.

Yes.

[sand marsh]

just because ur not close to 1650, and u think echidna hm is too hard, doesnt mean i RMT

[fresh scarab]

He said he’s f2p therefore he is

Why think hard for same result

[queen grail]

Too hard? I don't think I ever said It was too hard, but It's a waste of time to pug it now for me so I'm skipping it.

[sand marsh]

ive been putting every inch of gold into honing the main

[gleaming pendant]

serenei is also f2p

[sand marsh]

well yea because u gave up on progging it

for some weird reason

[visual smelt]

free 2 pay

[fresh scarab]

If you search up f2p in db chat sere pops up

[dim lark]

i agree, aly sucks

[fresh scarab]

It checks out

[queen grail]

"put every inch of gold into main, oh these 5 1620's? Oh I just found them in the mail one day".

[gleaming pendant]

[fresh scarab]

[queen grail]

Gave up? I never started

[dim lark]

1620 it's free

[sand marsh]

They had a ton of bounds. all i needed was a week of gold income

[queen grail]

I cleared G1 and said fuck G2

[sand marsh]

1620 is not that difficult lol

[fresh scarab]

What

Progging g2 echidna is so fun

[sand marsh]

when u have thousands of leapstones and fusion mats

[fresh scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540933911182835712/1264384008352170034/i0677544577.gif

[sand marsh]

why would u never start

[queen grail]

Damn, you make almost 500k/week?

[dim lark]

https://tenor.com/view/based-gigachad-chad-gif-23901955

[sand marsh]

i dont understand

[fresh scarab]

G2 echidna all patterns except like 1-2 are telegraphed so slowly

[queen grail]

And that x5 so 2,5 million almost.

[fresh scarab]

And she only has a few

[sand marsh]

I am always below average, by a good margin

[queen grail]

Oh, the cope, the cope Is too strong.

[dim lark]

good margin, let's say it's half, that's still 1.2m

[sand marsh]

I did all the honing on stream. i dont need you to believe me lol

[queen grail]

Why would I? What do gain from it, do tell.

[dim lark]

[sand marsh]

more gold, more adv honing mats. getting to 1650 fastr

idk

seems like a good gain

[fresh scarab]

He did it on stream gg

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-talking-invetigating-mad-explain-gif-16881825

[sand marsh]

i clear echidna hm 1-2 every reset

its smooth for the most part

[fresh scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-kiss-forehead-kiss-fishes-tiktok-gif-4788167688444183421

[gleaming pendant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540933911182835712/1264384008352170034/i0677544577.gif

[fresh scarab]

G4 on the other hand

[sand marsh]

and idk why u think i want an easier time, your out here doing nm gate 2 on a 1630+ and havent even done g4 thaemine

i think u want the easy way out, not me

[queen grail]

More work, more chances that the pugs fail, more investment in time when I have other stuff/raids I want to do over it, and a little bit extra adv honing mats that I might not even use.

[fresh scarab]

You need to push to 1640 eventually anyway to do aegir

May as well use your bound t3 mats now for advanced honing

[queen grail]

I mean, I'm 1636 now, I think I'll get there in time.

[sand marsh]

yea i get it, you do 36 raids a week and hone lopangs. smart investments

[queen grail]

I never said I didn't want it easier, but I'm playing a class that actually has to have high up-time on the fight and have to dodge, not an ultra-tank with CE that legit only can die if he falls alseep infront of the keyboard

[gleaming pendant]

REAL PLAYERS

[sand marsh]

so your saying your class is impossible to play in hm g2 or g4 thaemine?

[rancid tapir]

Bruh i been doing gate 2 valtan solo for 2 hours

Still cant beat it

[queen grail]

Where is the word Impossible, I can't find it.

[rancid tapir]

Keep dying to free fall bullshit

[sand marsh]

i see no other logical reason to not doing it

having an easier time is fine, just dont project it onto me.

[dim lark]

GUYS , I THINK DEATHBOI IS F2P

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/counterside-john-mason-mason-john-f2p-btw-gif-27377049

[sand marsh]

tru

word of god

[queen grail]

I've said it in plain English a few times, try to not interpret but just read, I do not want to deal with pugs more than I have to in prog-raid's and on a class that actually has to perform well with high up-time when the payout is so little compared to the extra work at this current time.

[sand marsh]

but pugs are fine?

idk what ur yapping about

[queen grail]

I mean, my guy, you class-changed into the most tanky easy to play support and made 3 of them while "not really enjoying supporting and want the entire role gone".

[queen grail]

All pugs are the same, all pugs are fine, right

[fresh scarab]

Depends
In my case it was better to use up my bound leaps and shards to hit 1640 base honing and 1660 with advanced honing bc when sept hits gear transfer will force t4 advanced honing

Then transfer will let us reach 1680

[sand marsh]

i never said i didnt enjoy support. but i view the game from a bigger picture, not just for my own benefit.

[fresh scarab]

For hm aegir

[prime wind]

they are all taking pictures LOL

[dim lark]

-plays dps
-gets gatekept
-starts playing support
-i do it for the community not for me
-

[queen grail]

I doubt I'm going to rush Aegir Hard D1 anyways.

[queen grail]

[fresh scarab]

Bro you still need to finish hm thaemine and echidna before aegir

[sand marsh]

I changed to support because I was not going to get 25 weapon on my berserker before thaemine hm release. would be impossible to get into a lobby. So I honed my paladin instead, then it happened to get lucky with 25 weapon which i had no hindsight of.

[fresh scarab]

Well I guess technically you don’t but it’s nice experiencing all the normal content of the game

[queen grail]

"Would be impossible to get into lobby as dps so let me just swap and make it easier".

[prime wind]

u should say g4 specifically

[dim lark]

bruh most people did thae on +21 weap, it's such a weird excuse

[prime wind]

g3 its fine

[queen grail]

Also, why wouldn't you get into lobby's as Zerker?

[sand marsh]

g4 is all i cared about

[queen grail]

My Zerker friend who has 6 Zerkers gets into all gates.

G1 2 3 and 4.

[fresh scarab]

Pugs are fine for prog but not reclear imo

[sand marsh]

I'm talking about on release. There would be too much competition. no 25 weapon, no full 10s

[fresh scarab]

I’ve progged almost every raid in pugs

[sand marsh]

and i wanted to go for TFM and g4 clear

[fresh scarab]

And you learn more in there

Than in a static

[queen grail]

That's the most silly thing I've heard you say.

[fresh scarab]

But for reclear hell no

[sand marsh]

It's not silly.

[queen grail]

Thinking you couldn't get into prog Week 1 unless full 10's and 25.

But, "pugs are fine".

[sand marsh]

All the 1630s on release had 25 weapon and 10s

[dim lark]

no?

[fresh scarab]

For wat

[prime wind]

25 weap on release

[sand marsh]

on NAE, yeah. those that were pushing for g4 thaemine

[fresh scarab]

Oo

You can definitely pug g4 without 25

Week 1

[sand marsh]

these days yeah, not week 1.

[fresh scarab]

On naw but it takes much longer to find a party

[sand marsh]

way too much competition

i saw it myself first-hand when i was progging it lol

[fresh scarab]

There’s competition but my friend did it

It just takes longer

To find a party

If you no life it for a couple weeks it’s doable

[sand marsh]

Yeah, way longer. Ontop of progging it, too much of a time investment.

[stark thicket]

[fresh scarab]

It depends how much you want to play the game

[stark thicket]

zero

[fresh scarab]

Gg

[sand marsh]

And I wanted to clear TFM before it became trivialized via advanced honing

so i went the quick route with support

and after that, i somehow started enjoying support. so it is what it is

[queen grail]

My guy, you could have gotten into a grp, maybe not the all 10's / 25 wep chad grp's, but you would have gotten into grps, kinda weird to make a role-change from dps to support like this but ey, you do you.

[sand marsh]

when t4 comes out i'll be doing g4 6 times bi-weekly

[sand marsh]

those were the only groups.. that were serious about clearing it lol

trust me, i was in countless lobbies progging it

[stark thicket]

Support is enjoyable.. to bad there is no tank position.. enjoyed tanking in wow m+ atleast :D

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234637940072910870/1250987097586929754/piggy.gif

[queen grail]

So, couldn't get your own dps up in time, so you had a janky fresh meat support to get carried by 6 giga-chad all 25 wep all 10's? I see why you think pugs are fine now

[sand marsh]

true, supports are just bus riders

full dps lobbies rise up

[queen grail]

Or just make it actual worth to invest in supports

[sand marsh]

the worth was there for me because i ended up enjoying it, and i was able to into g4 prog lobbies early on.

When tier 4 comes out i can finally experience g4 on dps

i cant wait for that, gonna be awesome

[queen grail]

Until everyone gets sick of support's going dps to try and be dps while being some of the weakest there is and then start gatekeeping all the dps supports and then you're straight back to support

[sand marsh]

???

[queen grail]

Even the guy you linked, he said in the comment section that It's the bottom of the barrel currently.

[sand marsh]

i'm talking about on my dps chars

i have 5 1620s

they will be 1640 with tier 4

then i can do g4 thaemine on those 1640 dps

[dim lark]

i think you guys should stop and kiss

[fresh scarab]

Eh, if he could post his uptime in here then we could judge

[queen grail]

You don't raid on them now?

[fresh scarab]

Although uptime in g4 is not easily measured

[sand marsh]

they are not 1630 aly

[fresh scarab]

Since keeping your team alive

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-now-kiss-no-way-cant-be-gif-7734844

[fresh scarab]

Is more valuable

[sand marsh]

i cant do g4 thaemine right now on the dps chars

[queen grail]

Ye, but, you do Echidna?

[sand marsh]

of course, but its normal echidna

which is mostly a joke

hard echidna a joke too, but more fun

[tawny lion]

On naw it was 90% if not more that

[queen grail]

To bad you don't get to do G4 on I.lvl.

And only overgeared

[sand marsh]

10 item levels will be massive difference

im sure i can 1c7 g4

ez pz

[prime wind]

1c7 wtf

gamer

[queen grail]

10 Itemlvl + new system + bump in stats from T4 set?

[sand marsh]

ikr

new system that we wont be interacting with for quite a bit

and i wont have max transcedence either

kinda evens itself out

[queen grail]

Deathboi is one of those paladins that has 40/40/10.

[fresh scarab]

Hmm

Idk

I don’t really know the guy

[sand marsh]

people who have played with me know my uptime lol

[prime wind]

hes literally 11th best pally in nae

[fresh scarab]

Can’t say much past that

[sand marsh]

i dont have to prove anything to you

[fresh scarab]

[queen grail]

Out of 11 paladins?

Also, you can't post up-time here @fresh scarab

It's illegal.

[fresh scarab]

I said that

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-stop-thats-illegal-gif-10319131

[fresh scarab]

[rigid aurora]

matt

[queen grail]

[fresh scarab]

bozo

[queen grail]

[fresh scarab]

Genshin

[rigid aurora]

get on vrchat

[fresh scarab]

Get on genshin

[midnight marlin]

get on vrchat

[queen grail]

Don't do it.

She's going to abuse you in VR land.

Run away!

https://tenor.com/view/kyoshi-gif-25351466

[fresh scarab]

Im erping with Eula rn

Call back later

[rigid aurora]

i will

[urban obsidian]

yuzu

come

amq

with us

[rigid aurora]

no im erping

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-already-gone-evie-irie-over-him-hes-gone-hes-not-here-anymore-gif-17603180

[turbid oriole]

Whatever happened to @obtuse oyster

[gleaming pendant]

wtf the debate ended?

[turbid oriole]

What did trump do now

[fresh scarab]

Damn lemme start it again

[gleaming pendant]

ok i am waiting

[wintry depot]

True he disappeared

[fresh scarab]

@queen grail @sand marsh do you guys think support dps should be viable

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/punt-kick-baby-grandma-gif-8217719

[fresh scarab]

Like what if

[sand marsh]

do you think dn are viable?

[fresh scarab]

My slayer can transform into fem pally

[sand marsh]

i think so

[fresh scarab]

With a preset

THINK AVOUT IT

[stark thicket]

maybe stuff irl

[turbid oriole]

That's some low hanging fruit

[stark thicket]

or he got banned for rmt in loa

@obtuse oyster

[fresh scarab]

Why would you rmt in loa

Buy primo gems instead lol

[queen grail]

For end-game? No.
For solo / Old raids, sure.

[fresh scarab]

Why

If my slayer could use brand

And AP buff

It would solve support shortage

Yep

[queen grail]

If I saw a Slayer with brand, I'd chuck here off a clif in-game.

[fresh scarab]

Why

Just make it a tripod

And let it apply on stomp

[queen grail]

Just make a new game

[fresh scarab]

Why

It’s the same game

Just more supports

Isn’t that what you wanted

It’s the opposite of dps pally

Support slayer

[turbid oriole]

Lost ark 2: booba

Ue5 booba update

[gleaming pendant]

true

[fresh scarab]

[gleaming pendant]

support sharpshooter

[turbid oriole]

Y u ignore my frog dm

[gleaming pendant]

cause hes ignoring you

[fresh scarab]

Cus dn

[turbid oriole]

[stark thicket]

u ignored me

[fresh scarab]

Also no notification ward

[turbid oriole]

[fresh scarab]

wtf

[turbid oriole]

When

[gleaming pendant]

wtf!

[stark thicket]

heh u didnt

[gleaming pendant]

nice 20 percent

fking nerd

[turbid oriole]

Charge ur phone

[gleaming pendant]

OMG MATT REPLIED ME

[fresh scarab]

[gleaming pendant]

[fresh scarab]

[dim lark]

pretty good, reminded me of scary movie

[gleaming pendant]

https://youtu.be/25tB5rJbiT0

@sand marsh

dps pally in aegir hm

[dim lark]

bro really using bandicam

[gleaming pendant]

he mvp in dmg

[gleaming pendant]

a lot of KR ppl uses that

for clipping

[dim lark]

why tho

[gleaming pendant]

idk actually

i guess open source and easy to use I guess?

and also something everyone was using years ago

[sand marsh]

have they heard of OBS

[midnight marlin]

obs doesnt havea watermark

so unironically, no

[sand marsh]

[dim lark]

OBS its open source and up to date and way better

[limber sluice]

whatever happen to fraps, does it even exist anymore

[dim lark]

bruh

[fathom summit]

bandicam is superior

[dim lark]

i still have fraps on my old laptop from like 2008

i remember i got it with a cd from a friend

HOLY SHIT

[wintry depot]

Omg fraps...

[limber sluice]

i have kazaa and napster on my old old old pc in a box in my storage

[wintry depot]

A relic

Ok kazaa is too old for me

[fathom summit]

i remember using fraps on dragon nest

[dim lark]

idk what kazaa is but i think i used napster

[limber sluice]

you know whats toooo old for oyu, sitting in a queue on irc to download a totally not pirated game/movie/tv show/music

[wintry depot]

I was downloading on limewire

[limber sluice]

lol i remember "pirating" a book on a bbs back in 1997. people would take pictures or scan book pages

[dim lark]

i remember watching ghost ship camera recording on a tv

[limber sluice]

part of me misses allegedly downloading a video and taking the gamble at whether it was what you wanted, normal porn, or the fbi open up porn

the internet was raw and real back then. now it's pure garbagio

[dim lark]

i recall downloading half life and bluescreening my pc after i pressed on .exe

[fresh scarab]

Bro is recalling the prior century

[dim lark]

[fresh scarab]

Damn that was like 100 years ago

[dim lark]

time to rewatch all scary movie movies

[stark thicket]

[dim lark]

wat

[lime dove]

not bad

[stark thicket]

[valid turtle]

bro

we just wiped

cuz some dude killed the tentacle in g3 while we were all inside

mfer literally wiped the whole raid

[stark thicket]

you got piimpollo'd

[fresh scarab]

Who

[gleaming pendant]

Who

[urban obsidian]

Who

[ancient tundra]

Who

[stark thicket]

im prob getting close to 65 pulls now :c

[turbid oriole]

[urban obsidian]

@valid turtle

classic arti player diff

[turbid oriole]

can i get free bus

can you even play this with only touchpad

[urban obsidian]

bro what @sand marsh

look at this

[mystic basin]

huh

[valid turtle]

in what

[urban obsidian]

g4

fr

[turbid oriole]

Echidna

[valid turtle]

my echindas are in statics sorry

[turbid oriole]

I didn't even have time to prog it

[valid turtle]

martian

look at this

[dim lark]

maybe dont post video with bible

[urban obsidian]

[dim lark]

damn also u lowest dps

[midnight marlin]

delete it

[turbid oriole]

[turbid oriole]

Gonna get setsura'd

[valid turtle]

its not my pov

[dim lark]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[valid turtle]

its not my pov and they were lantern lol

i didnt even see meter the first time

oh well ill delete it martian saw it

[valid turtle]

god i hope not

wait did they get banned?

[stark thicket]

i pray for u

[sand marsh]

uhh, what?

[urban obsidian]

arent you the one who sent the pic of the one thread

from official

[sand marsh]

oh lord

[urban obsidian]

thats in it

LOL

at the very end

WTF

they deleted my skill issue

[sand marsh]

[turbid oriole]

@setsura

[turbid oriole]

Dead chat dead game

[dim lark]

https://tenor.com/view/yinlin-wuwa-wuthering-waves-kuro-kuro-games-gif-6872745150005387563

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540933911182835712/1264384008352170034/i0677544577.gif

[dim lark]

lvling to 70 unlocks only if u get to t4?

[thorny hill]

Does gold and purple bleed runes stack dots?

[turbid oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540933911182835712/1264384008352170034/i0677544577.gif

[turbid oriole]

No

[queen grail]

Kazaa, is the movie you dowloaded actually the movie or is it porn,

[vagrant cradle]

But the bleed and poison runes do stack, apparently

I wonder how much poison will do over the fight

[vagrant cradle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1017444004226416760/1183728907967533108/voices_mokoko.gif

[turbid oriole]

its just malware

[limber sluice]

usually, but mostly just a keylogger

[jagged rose]

i heard once u reach level 50 its like a whole new game, is that true

[supple parrot]

FINALLY

JUSTICE IS SERVED

[nova garden]

level 1>50 is basically a really bad tutorial

[azure valley]

rmt

[supple parrot]

[blissful rose]

[jagged rose]

so does it start getting really hard

[nova garden]

when you reach legion raids

[jagged rose]

whats that

bruh and i chose the wrong NA east server and now im stuck on it

[quartz turret]

rmt

[blissful rose]

u mean wrong region?

[jagged rose]

no the server

i wanted luterrea or smth

[keen copper]

it literally doesnt matter

[jagged rose]

oh

[blissful rose]

server doesn't matter for 99% of things

[jagged rose]

i thought i can only play with people from the same region and server

[turbid oriole]

argos

[blissful rose]

raid mm is region wide

[turbid oriole]

did you mean nineveh

[valid turtle]

i hate you

[blissful rose]

ratik

[supple parrot]

🙏

[blissful rose]

[valid turtle]

i hate you so much

[turbid oriole]

wtf

rmt

[turbid oriole]

do u drop brel now on everything

only <1600 do brel right

[valid turtle]

1600 can still do brel on g4 weeks

otherwise kaya hm is more gold

[turbid oriole]

i never learned g4

[valid turtle]

ok so its just a kaya hm angle for you

[turbid oriole]

just like how i missed echidna prog

[valid turtle]

cuz brel gold nerf sucks

there are still prog groups

its not that wild

[turbid oriole]

wt r u doing

[valid turtle]

watching

and gonna sleep soon

[turbid oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1208188150531235850.gif?size=80&quality=lossless

[blissful rose]

[valid turtle]

its a good thing its illigal in my state

[turbid oriole]

wdf

[valid turtle]

otherwise i prob would have made an acc to gamble online

[turbid oriole]

oh online

wdf

ure on kick

[valid turtle]

[turbid oriole]

but asianbunnyx isnt there

[valid turtle]

hot take, i dont find her that attractive

[turbid oriole]

just put on a paperbag

[valid turtle]

[turbid oriole]

sasha grey is better streamer than most

[valid turtle]

im sorry i cant get into a girl no matter how hot her bod is if she has a ugly face

[tulip charm]

g2h echida is a fked up raid...
last week we 2shot it

this week it took 2 hours

feels like every pull after the first hour it just gets worse and worse and worse

[valid turtle]

thats when you say, ok tomorrow then

and go to bed

[supple parrot]

[valid turtle]

regressing

[supple parrot]

look what i got zheng, from hm echidna

[quartz turret]

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/fireworks-gif-25634705

gratzlksjdflkjsdfklj!!!

and about damn time too

[supple parrot]

now i might hone another 1630 next week

[tulip charm]

everybody looting them since last week, mizu even got 2

[supple parrot]

mizu got 2

i thought just 1

what the

its down to 1.4 mil now

[tulip charm]

yea he looted a 2nd one recently

[quartz turret]

wheres my 2nd one

[supple parrot]

[quartz turret]

[supple parrot]

feels good to be f2p man

rewarded

[tulip charm]

my rng is in the gutters for the last 2 month (lv5 glove)

[turbid oriole]

[tulip charm]

at least next week ill have 4x char fully transcended

and once the echida nerf happens, can prob do 12h on the 3 alts

[quartz turret]

[stark thicket]

[stark thicket]

[stark thicket]

suck face off

[tulip charm]

anyone here have 4 sideral drops? or is that henry status only

[azure valley]

There can only be 1 zheng

[turbid oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1246406184563507310.webp?size=128&quality=lossless

[stark thicket]

[quartz turret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1017444004226416760/1183728907967533108/voices_mokoko.gif

[supple parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-kiss-forehead-kiss-fishes-tiktok-gif-4788167688444183421

[tulip charm]

they said they are nerfing echida but how would they nerf it anyways

[quartz turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453407079517126666/1261430471997526067/ezgif-6-dde4785d5c.gif

[tulip charm]

only thing i can think of is maybe slightly lower health on the g2, and WAY less chip dmg in g1

[quartz turret]

remove charm stacks

[sand marsh]

im reporting you right now

[tulip charm]

charm is never a issue though, even on arti

[quartz turret]

it is for dumb imposters

[visual smelt]

don't think they'll remove the charm stacks mechanic

[tulip charm]

i am trying to think what they can change/adjust

[midnight marlin]

they cant

[visual smelt]

at best maybe increase it from 3 max to 4max stacks i reckon

or make the debuff last 45s instead of 60s

[supple parrot]

for what?

being f2p?

[sand marsh]

you dont deserve that

fuck u

[visual smelt]

one thing they could do for sure

is to make it such that the charmed player will never try to spacebar or stand up

[supple parrot]

i deserve it the most, i run alot of raids every week and im f2p

[sand marsh]

no u do not

[visual smelt]

it makes saving them so much more obnoxious for no reason

[sand marsh]

stupid ass game

[supple parrot]

imma hone another 1630 next week to celebrate

[sand marsh]

so unfair man

[supple parrot]

wdym unfair

[tulip charm]

maybe, make it so the g1h boss can't sit on poop for 25minutes standing directly on the poop constantly, or warp him back to the center of the screen/where majority of the players gather
g2 slight health reduction
make maybe basement close range ribbon slashes increase the safezone slightly in a radius around her, sometimes even when your practically hugging the boss during close range slashes you get clipped somehow
maybe decrease the chance of certain patterns like jump rope, since it kills too much time
i can't think of anything else

[supple parrot]

that ur balding at a young age?

[quartz turret]

Unethical rmter rewarded

[sand marsh]

im the pillar of this community, i deserve sidereal

stupid game

[supple parrot]

nah all u do is rage

and yell at mokokos

[sand marsh]

no, i yell at you

cuz u stipid

[visual smelt]

tbh i think every boss in the game should have a mechanic where if they end up in teh corner, they'll try to reset themselves like how echidna does

[tulip charm]

you didn't need the sideral to hone another one

[sand marsh]

failing clash & stuff

[supple parrot]

im smart, thats why i drop sideral and u dont

[sand marsh]

i almost slurred

[supple parrot]

i didnt fail slash

the db did

[quartz turret]

How much is it 1620-1630

[sand marsh]

no, u didn't get any perfects which caused the boss do the 3 slashes in front

[quartz turret]

[supple parrot]

idk like 300k?

[sand marsh]

u killed 2 ppl

stupid mokoko

[supple parrot]

prob 600k

[buoyant wagon]

reported for rmt

[turbid oriole]

@nova garden r there tfd drops on twith

[supple parrot]

not my fault they suck and dont shield

[sand marsh]

wtf

[supple parrot]

or move out of the way

[sand marsh]

that hardly happens wdym

and it happens fast

[supple parrot]

i dodged it

[sand marsh]

front attacks jus get fucked

[nova garden]

No, they ended today I think.

[stark thicket]

time to be a front attacker and the let the boss back attack me

[sand marsh]

what the hell

[supple parrot]

imma buy some fish to craft orehas

to prep honing

[sand marsh]

undeserved

[stark thicket]

[turbid oriole]

damn

[supple parrot]

u wanna run a hm echidna on nae? i have a feeling another sideral will drop

[sand marsh]

u think i wanna run a raid with you after what jus happened

hell nah

[supple parrot]

[stark thicket]

is that what chuan client is saying

[tulip charm]

what just happened?

[sand marsh]

he got a sidereal

undeserved

blacklisted

reported

[supple parrot]

why isnt zheng blacklisted then

[vagrant cradle]

[supple parrot]

he got 3

[tulip charm]

kinda deserved his been playing since close to launch lol

[sand marsh]

i almost have 11k hours

i havent gotten a single one

????

[stark thicket]

how you gonna do chuan like that, its just a game

[supple parrot]

wdym since close to launch? i started playin at 3 day head start

[tulip charm]

mine was spaced out, my 2nd and 3rd was almost a year inbetween lol

[supple parrot]

literally finished story day 1

[tulip charm]

vs mizu's 1st and 2nd was in a span of 3 weeks

[supple parrot]

day -3 actually

[sand marsh]

not fair

[turbid oriole]

dynamic rates

u gotta finish raid when someone hone their side

[tulip charm]

you will soon, since you stream you will have streamer rng kick in

[sand marsh]

bro. it wont happen

[midnight marlin]

?

no

[supple parrot]

its ur mind set man, u get mad too ezily

u gotta have positive vibes like me

[turbid oriole]

take off the wig

[supple parrot]

and good things will happen

[turbid oriole]

and it will come

[supple parrot]

[midnight marlin]

he got 1st on thaemine release and 2nd like 2 weeks ago

[nova garden]

Ultimate valby is actually so free. Took me 2 hours or so to grind.

[sand marsh]

u want me to smile when dented people jail me?

[wind dagger]

[sand marsh]

nah u crazy

[tulip charm]

i remb they were very close together i thought

[nova garden]

Took my friend just under 3

[sand marsh]

no

[turbid oriole]

you get mad in a teaching party

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

no i dont?

[supple parrot]

yes udo

[wind dagger]

Did Chuan get Eclipse title?

[supple parrot]

toxic ass mf

[sand marsh]

i literally dont

[supple parrot]

yes

[sand marsh]

the only time i got mad is when i brought randoms along that were reclears, and they would mess up more than the person im teaching

[wind dagger]

[sand marsh]

that was pretty annoying

[supple parrot]

i need eclipse on nae tho

[wind dagger]

[supple parrot]

@sand marsh nae g4 into eclipse?

[sand marsh]

you are not gonna get eclipse on NAE

[supple parrot]

why not

[sand marsh]

you are missing too much

[supple parrot]

its fine i wont die

ill just be a mech bot

and do clash

[sand marsh]

then its basically a bus

you'll do below min dmg

[supple parrot]

nah ill be ove minimum

[sand marsh]

i dont think u were at min with hm g3

isnt it 25mil

[gleaming pendant]

EXPOSED

[supple parrot]

cuz i didnt have transcendence and im doing clash

now i have transcendence

[sand marsh]

so u have max transcedence now?

[supple parrot]

big dps boost

no but i have it on 2 pieces

thats like +10% dmg

[gleaming pendant]

give him a chance, scalp

[blissful rose]

[sand marsh]

whats 10% of 18mil

i cant math

[supple parrot]

thats not how it works

[gleaming pendant]

would you rather help setsura or chuan

[blissful rose]

50

[rare quartz]

Divide by 10 bro

[supple parrot]

i also got almost all the sword drops, and i was ethical

[sand marsh]

im on a g4 lockout so i cant help anyways

[supple parrot]

and went to edge

[sand marsh]

yea what is it

[midnight marlin]

this guy doesnt know how to move a decimal point

[sand marsh]

im too lazy

but i dont think 10% of 18mil will cause you to be at 25mil+ dps

i also think thats the req for g4

[supple parrot]

? g3 and g4 is diff

[blissful rose]

bro is joking surely

[fervent ibex]

you.. dont know how to move the decimal over?

[supple parrot]

why u equating dmg in g3 to g4

[blissful rose]

[sand marsh]

g3 is way more trixion that g4...

[supple parrot]

ok next time ill greed in g3 and show u the dmg

i was doing mechs u idiot

[sand marsh]

why didnt u greed what the hell

[supple parrot]

i got sword like 5 times

[vagrant cradle]

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

even if i hypothetically got you into gate 4.. no one would join

[supple parrot]

i can just join last

[sand marsh]

then people will leave

this happened in akkan, remember

[supple parrot]

that was

someone elses group

u idiot

and u didnt tell them

u have friend comin from NAW

[sand marsh]

no i did

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

i did say it

then they KICKED ME

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

assholes

[blissful rose]

[supple parrot]

well those ppl suck anyways

[fervent ibex]

aintnoway

[sand marsh]

also TFM is a higher dps check from my understanding

at least for 4-1

[supple parrot]

[gleaming pendant]

Wow 2nd one?

[fervent ibex]

no i just wanted to see if scalp would lose his hair LMFAO

its the same one from 2 weeks ago

[supple parrot]

i mean ill get los 30 soonge, i havent gotten a single los card in like 3 months

its coming

[gleaming pendant]

LOL

[sand marsh]

if u got another one i would probably uninstall

not fair