#lost-ark-discussions
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just shows the first one on the list
the mobs themselves can drop other yellows tho
Drop this
midzu
got jinshi s1 will be set for life
kinda worried about tfd meta though, like without huge nerfs how do you improve on bunny and gley


well a dungeon with bunch of explosive barrels would destroy bunny



found a warframe just for you


any of you trying out once human tomorrow?
its meh

were you once human?
wait so 1-3 Brel is more gold than 1-3 kaya?

i thought it was 1-4 brel is more than 1-3 kaya
@burnt tree finally finished msq
both lmao
final dungeon theme was a banger
1-3 brel is 7.5
1-3 kaya is 6.5
last trial was also fun, can't wait to do extreme
i think its 1k more
O rsomething like that
Bro I read it are you trying out some human

Wtf
ok there hannibal

crazy ass out of context
Ikr
where is my ass
ngl when i first saw that, i thought yall were playing some weird hentai game on steam
i am
i am
Summer Clover?
me and crzy are playing it together
are you guys having fun?
yes
Kr gets their patch notes today?
no

they get them when the update is out
holy
rip then ima drop kaya
fk the mats
thats not the bottle neck
youre the bottle neck 
no
nah kaya is purely for wings now
Nice angle bro
and ppl u honing up
it was always 1k less than brel
damn
0.15%
Tmrw 8pm PST they never get it ahead of time KR patch notes timing is ahit right at when servers open
yall playing zzz?
busy with tfd
Who ?
this
and the male is lightning dps 
QUANTUM 
no
who would ever talk about lost ark here 
first line sounded like it was a new supp term
What the fuck is this

quantum gang?
Oh mine should be crafted when I get home
???
Ty for reminding me
U whale
saint's ult gley was crafted 8 hours after release
hes gonna quit TFD
Totally f2p

thats how it be
What
yeah
Ye
He has a hard time reading I had to guide him how to do everything @gleaming pendant
Tell him Mizu
How you can’t fucking read


fuck no
time for 65th try on first part 
im busy
wym fuck no
I’ll be home in 5
Not a fan, unless she has some dope asf skills.. i wanna get the male char
we don't help noobs
i ahve some farming to do lil pup
let them stay noob


Thats that lost ark mentality right there
prevent these leeches
what fucking good karma do you get from helping a p2w whale?
Sorry @uneven mortar can’t help you now


look a fake mizu
talk to us when you got mastery level 13 and above, wrekk
^
@gleaming pendant Am I doing good for not helping him
absolutely

not even 
I’m mastery 10 
hi ocean, are you done being the jailer?
how much of a fucking lucker is ulti
roster 8 andy
wtf


Kae what should I farm for roster lvl
theres nothing much you can do tho, beside descendant levels and gun proficiency
Should I lvl viessa while I’m farming freyna
lvl 7 i think
So just have weps equipped while I farm
yeah
the forehead expander
??
thunder cage still?
ask for opinion
ignores said opinion

I mean I don't even know what module you have avail ngl
since you don't even have mp collector


ic an farm for any mod

Probly right up to first clash


mayb
thats a pretty good one to use catalyst on too
sincei t goes to 16
honestly not bad for getting that far
isnt that like quarter
Or closer to half way

RELADOING!
the dicey part is the clashes until basement
little shit

If you finish the sword phase and reach horse, you've seen every basic pattern which is the bulk of the fight
it was more fun to prog echidna on dps than thaemine on sup thats for sure
it was more fun to prog thaemine on sup than echidna on sup
Ah nvm
so
wdym
So i can go full changli

then save the other version
i see
Sounds good

What if you are the monster
Balless behaviour.
And the monster is the human

Thats a win.
little cookie
ngl.

Skinwalker chuanko


im going to manifest the monsters from my dream and send them your way
Do it
you sure you want the demon woman to with the long tongue to snatch your eye ball out? or being chased by really fast zombies?
the first one its not a problem.
neither the zombie
Don t threaten me with a good time
im playing zzz right now, fun game
how about a city filled with zombies, and the big safe zone was being overrun so it got nuked, and you got caught in the explosion.. Then you wake up

Finally free?
Thats a W

or when godzilla pops out of the ground and uses his breath on some monster and you sitting there getting disintegrated
i already did
take more
Fk Ken, I know it's no longer June but no need to jump straight back into it.

oh no
just buy more you rmter


CN Got devs who are making changes for the game that are rly good
beeg dmg
reroll for higher rolls
lol what changes
omg mizu so good?
yeah

itll be higher tho
Ok do i spent and swipe like 1k to push a gl or just play dps pala for the fks of it xdd
yeah and you ain't max?
neither

dps pala
1 to go soon
im a lil sad
wait no 2 to go still dammit

dps pala still slayin dope laying coke
saucy & raunchy just like that
dude I pressed the back button on my mouse and I thought I got banned from this channel
what happened
good lord
meanwhile AGS cant even do anything bout rmt, piloting and all taht sht

server on fire in comparison
did u not do the previous event
yea i read this
oh fuck i missed chaos assault
the one that gives like 2 mil silver a day
the only change that seems good is the 'chaos dungeon milestone' thing.
i mean rmting isnt a thing you solve

keep in mind the CN version is way shittier than ours in terms of being f2p.
I feel like everything on the list is pretty good
its always gonna be in any mmo
so yeah, it's not perfect by any means
you ban
properly
thats how u solve

so you have no players?
Too late now
they have a lot of qol for where they are in the game
if u can't fix rmting then make it worse that's what i always say
its gotten to the point in this region
that they need to do that
and rebuild from the ground up
It might be better at that point
that just kills a game

They needa try
That was wild
its a risk
true. if only they had events as good as ours, then i guess you could say it's the best region.
but true
no it isnt LOL
Once those hardcore players quit
the events that give them money -> more qol for f2p
theyre doing the right thing by ignoring it
whats left
It potentially can if there is a core issue
from what i've been told, it's practically impossible to keep up as f2p unless you have multiple accounts
since the release cadance is faster than the west.
if i actually get above 100 tries 
not rly
its easily doable to have one character at the latest content releases
without spending
why does rmt hurt you
If you ask me, RMT isn't even in the top 5 problems that the game has.
but dats jus my opinion
economy

gold sinks that legit players cant afford to spend on

Smilegate decided the gold that you spend on elixirs and transcedence. This has nothing to do with RMT.

fck those pos people tegeek and dark sun ken 

minus a few of ppl coping for weird reasons
blow me
only reason is cause theres a new tier coming
no?
And a lot of the stuff will be considered casual
theyve been down for a while lmao
even before the announcement it was cheap, it's just a bit cheaper now.
^

prices have been down for a bit
but before than it was cheap as well
Since a lot of people parked at 1620 to advance hone to 1630
idk if you believe it is cheap cause u guys have been playing since day 1
and have a massive roster

i ahvent been playing since day 1
but relative to a lot of others
I can't think of anything that is expensive. Outside of transcedence and elixirs.
gems and stuff
Deathboi in that Bussing class,
its lower than before
gems are cheaper than theyve ever been
These gems
thats not inflation tho?
are gonna be pretty much outdated
gems have dropped.
Gems in the west are almost identical to the price of KR.
to T2 gem
you 2 rude boy.. didnt even defend me
3 months = few weeks
fck u
?
Run Thaemine with me and I'll start to give a shit.

you just doom to doom
No youre right agme is in a great state
with everything going on

Player count is thriving
you rightt
and is why u dont play anymore

burnt out on 1 char
game being in bad state isnt because of rmt
ok
^^^^^
You can say it's not cheap. Sure. But gems are a permanent upgrade. In addition, you don't need level 10s. You can get by with 9s. And 9s are 70k at the moment.
I ain't giving Deathboi 35k just so I can get Dreamer despite spending 2 weeks progging Thaemine.
Thanks to toxic asf guild members who got their asses dragged through by whales only because they're an officer/simp.
it doesnt
saying it doesnt is delusional
wtf u yapping about
venting
nothing is expensive "bc of rmt"
it does if a shit load of ppl do
for the ppl that dont

Who do you think get gatekept
what in the game right now is expensive due to rmt and only rmt
a tiny part sure but its not a major one
you removed all rmt game would still be same state
it doesnt matter whats cheap or expensive to you and me
its relative to the players
for the players who do rmt
vs the ones who dont
thats not

what im asking
what in the game right now
costs too much bc its inflated due to people rmting gold
Only at the highest end of content Ocean. And even then, it's not as bad as you make it out to be. My scrapper who is 1620 with only level 9 dmg, gets accepted into echidna normal and thaemine normal.
answer my question
It has an effect, but it's not one of the top problems the game has.
what in the lost ark currently costs too much due to inflation from rmt
what is the top problem then
to you
nothing specific just overall as a whole
The *biggest reason why things are expensive is because the majority of gold income now comes from 3-4 raids that are a bitch to get into unless you have a static, or are available at a very specific time. To PUG you have their clear titles already or are juiced out the ass, problem is of these require having already done said raids in the first place.
I'd say the top problem is the new player experience. Hopefully solo raids somewhat fix that, but there should be more.
Thats also one of the mian things im referring to
in prices
Is not for established players
or all that

You realize that in KR (which does not have a bot problem), has expensive gems as well right?
Level 10 and 9s are going to be expensive...

Level 10s in KR right now, are identical in price to the west.
if rmt inflated prices everything would be significantly more costly than it is
Which makes logical sense, our version is almost caught up to KR.
a 9 would not cost 70k
It is good. It goes from 9 to 7. 10 goes to 8.

I got like 3 high quality proper statted accessories but 1 engraving off
If you are trying to hunt down gems and are satisfied with your item level, i'd say it's the best time to buy.
For a good month I spent all my gold every week buying gems.
i am trying to focus gems
Then spend all your gold and resources to buy them.
pretty much all my gold is going into gems atm
Surely you make at least 70k gold per week.
ok 
That's 1 level 9 per week minimum.

There is no reality where a f2p player will have enough to buy the highest level gems and still have a lot of gold left over.
Unless you bus the highest end content.
the release cadence is not too different but they have more supplementary stuff and skip a lot of early tier stuff. they do offer more packages for cash shop to tie in cards and what not but thats different from in game
For a while they didn't have powerpasses and their events were worse than ours.
honestly its better to tie in guaranteed cards than have ppl gamble on shitty mari packs
I don't know about right now, but that's how it was at least a few months ago
id take guaranteed selector for x dollars over how ever many legendary cards u would get from that pack
if i was a new player trying to get los
You gotta spend X amount in the shop to get a selector.
thats what i said
compared to the gamba of mari and that card pack?
way better
and ppl are probably still doing both
I personally don't like that. But that's because I don't like the idea of a cash shop in general.
I'd prefer to have a shit cash shop.
i think its reasonable
That makes me look at it and go "i'll never swipe"
^
bro i won the lottery

i hope they will make region specific changes in the near future..
RMT will always be better though regardless of region.
like KR claiming ''no reason to play hard mode''
what
and made the change to have different rewards for nm and hm instead of diff rates of acquisition for difficulty

Pretty sure they are with Tier 4.
But I am not certain.
rmt is just a means of getting gold, what u get for the gold and spending it on the game vs other players is way different
no definiteive statement, been weird about it
we get full details in 24 hours tho
why do u think everyone buys oreha packs

in mari
delete orehas
all deleting orehas does is makes them add more base gold cost to honing
could instead all to silver cost and shards.
theyre there to make the gold cost higher without actually making the gold cost higher
exactly

so they remove it they add it somewhere else

ye but the point is ppl will spend gold in the shop when its good
there's also a limited rate at which you can gain orehas unless you buy them from other players. it's an assbackwards way for them to slow honing.
so if everything is like orehas everyone would buy a lot of mari stuff
With the state the game is it, I'm not so sure. At least I wouldn't.
gold -> bc is still in play u know
Ah, I thought you meant RC stuff
no thats true cash shop stuff
I'm surprised people still swipe with how the game is at the moment.
u have to look at both bc and rc stuff in the "p2w" state
rc is for mileage / additional progression
People be guessing Zhezhi's weapon. This is Kuro we're talking about with years of subverting expectations so she's gonna be pistols.
Gonna pull out that Glock after she's done painting all the happy little trees.
I'd only swipe if I felt the direction the game is headed in, is good for all sorts of players.
bc is gold usage/value
painter with a glock 
Im an artist but..
glockless
if you started the game today
how long do you think you'd stay

Probably for a bit, since solo raids come out soon.
i hope they dont disappoint
theres a bunch of ppl who r gonna play on solo raid cadence its nbd
they wont even need to interact with others
But as a new player, if I learn everything up to Voldis. Then want to go into Thaemine & beyond, that will be rough.
That's when people will probably stop.
ye
just wait for thaemine solo when new raid drops

Yeah just wait until 2025 true.
at least they get to learn basics
thaemine isnt as complex as brel or clown anyway
unless they are doing g4 which most ppl wont
It isn't. But party finder sim is extremely complex.
They probably won't include Gate 4 if it includes only normal mode
thats why they are playing on solo raid cadence
You get int othe game>You used the powerpass>You have 0 idea of the game>Get Gatekeep>quit
^
the reason new players cant get thru pf is bc new players dont wanna paly with other new players
can basics from the game
but theres not much you can do abotu that
No it's far from complex. It's a glorified Valtan.
clown is harder

Glorified Valtan that gets gatekept worse than Brel 
if u can do clown u can do thaemine np
clown on ilvl is a lot harder than thaemine on ilvl
Well there's another big factor, which is raid anxiety. A lot of new players suffer from that as well.
solo clown I can't wait
the cash shop funds the f2p game you play
shit cash shop means less money for the developer/publisher

punishing =/= difficulty
which usually translates to worse quality delivery
thaemine if you die, its your fault
clown if you die, it can be not your fault
and the fight feels long af
Well i'm not sure what Amazon was thinking then. The west has a completely different mentality of monitezation than other regions.
How much money you think smilegate makes from lost ark in total
listen ive been saving my awakening but i thought i'd use it on the hp switch mech
amazon is too afraid of people like you who'd take the extra step to post all over twitter and reddit how the game is "p2w" and therefore you should not play it

If the cash shop is really, really good - then people will feel more pressured to swipe. Which means being f2p has less significance
punishing easy mechanics =/= difficult raid
zzz got fked by wuwa
then what is an example of a difficult raid
they are known for being too easy now 
and because the cash shop is bad
@urban obsidian 
people aren't pressured to swipe?
if anything it makes it badly designed
it just means they 100% rmt instead of spending maybe 50% on the shop and 50% on rmt
we jsut gave you some
brel
clown
me, when taking clash 1
punishing mechanics that your team can mess up for you
I don't feel the pressure at least lol. If it was insanely good, I'd feel like I would have to swipe since every else would be - since the cash shop is good.
clown was probably the hardest, brel was just annoying
how are those not also considered easy punishing @urban obsidian
you dont feel the pressure because you literally play the game like 12 hours a day
becuase they are team based mechanics

you are on lost ark more than the average person needs for healthy sleep per day
fck u
or how much the average person works per day

If the cash shop was much better though, I'd feel the pressure - regardless of being a day 1 player or not.
FINALLY
i only swipe for skins
lol
72th try
you eliminated the need to swipe by donating your time to the game instead
dunno why people would swipe for progress...
how many hours have u logged this week for lost ark @sand marsh
Need that ultimate bunny
Much less than normal cause of tfd
70 more to go 
that's the same story for every person who is f2p or near f2p but keeping up at the endgame with whales
hope tfd dies
70
they paid with their time

soon
Why?
@sand marsh u gonna teach me G3 Thaemine one of these days?
just need code then need to farm mats

to craft
Of course. I'm just speaking from my opinion. I prefer not having a cracked cash shop, otherwise I'd feel pressured to fork over money.
Weren't you with strylander the other day
that was g1-2
thought he was good at teaching
how is it pressuring you to fork over money
are you pressured to buy clothes at the mall whenever you see a sale
there was a ton signed up
Because it's much better.
im spiting all the people who play it here
I don't care about clothes in the same way I care about lost ark. that's not a good comparison

so basically you lack self control
he spends 16 hours a day on lost ark
obviously


working from home pov
tbf a slow week for him is probably like 50 hours only steam can tell

feels good man being f2p
I didn't say I would swipe. I'd say that I would feel pressured. That's different.
I care more about lost ark than my health he says
You can’t have a shit cash shop and then wonder why everyone rmts with no shame
gonna watch some ppl fresh prog hell brel 
Yeah I get that. I'm not complaining about RMT though
who 
rmt is the effect of what u are complaining about tho
^
Yeah i know
some homies you dk
@ancient tundra
They need to add mileage shop
But RMT doesn't effect me so I don't really care as much
it does affect u
remember how u switched to pally main and still honed 25 weapon
It affects you in a lot of indirect ways
huh. how is that rmt
How the developer and publisher care and manage this version
why didnt u hit 1630 on zerker your first main
How content cadence is determined
Because of support shortage. i didnt want to re live voldis lobby sim
why do u think there is a support shortage at 1630
and for g4 25 weapon being a requirement
Probably because we have a fast release cadence and honing is expensive from 1620 to 1630. idk
AYO GOOD MORNING CHAT FUCK SCALP
it has nothing to do with RMT though lol

Surely fast release cadence has nothing to do with average ilvl being inflated by the top end
well if u dont think rmt is the cause of that i dont know what to tell u
There has always been a support shortage with the highest end-game content.
I just didn't really think about it until Voldis.
Who is dented enough to main a support. not many people
so it makes sense, with or without rmt

so lets say u are a hardcore busser scalp
bro you missed peak oceanclovers dooming

To be fair, i wouldn’t say that average ilvl has that big of an effect on release cadence
2 bad u dropped wuwa
or a bus scammer like setsura
But it definitely is taken into account
just out here flaming all sup mains thats wild
u will barely scratch the requirements
If SG and AGS aren’t complete morons
i'm flaming myself as well since im a sup main.
why am i not surprised
KR rmts more than the west
rmt is inflating the game

the 70k lvl 9s are inflated
OH NO
KR doesn’t really have bots to rmt from
There’s always going to be player to player rmt
kr pays in chimac and soju
You can’t stop that
i didn't?
Player to player rmt, especially under a strict account creation system like KR
i still have like 4 lbs of leftover galbi
Is basically natural inflation
Nah I would've met the requirements if I put all my gold into my zerker. Would of had a 25 wep sooner. I had way more bounds than paladin. But I wasn't about to sit in lobby sim waiting for a support. so i decided to become the support.
u sure?
Bots create runaway inflation that contribute to the issues you see here
why you say i did?
On top of being a blight on the game to most players
i thought i last saw u log in like 2 weeks ago
no i get on almost every day still
i might have missed yesterday bc i'm lazy
oh ok
They should give us a client like KR
With T4 coming out, I think bots will have a dramatically lower effect on the game. I don't see how bots are going to cause an effect on Tier 4 books, materials, etc.
Im joking
but the reason u switched is basically the result of the dps players who didnt have your saved up resources as a day 1 player with a big roster
cause they swiped
Doesn’t this prove @prime wind ‘s point that the rmt whales have shifted the goalposts so high you can’t compete on dps so you swapped to paladin
No. That's not of any revelance.

Very few people main support in this game.




















