lost-ark-discussions

[urban obsidian]

dismantle

[midnight marlin]

dismantle

if its not 100 it doesnt matter too much

[urban obsidian]

eventually youll be farming void intercepts for component sets

[uneven mortar]

bro

i just need 4clears

and i can go with title only party onward

[midnight marlin]

still get jailed

i will personally jail you

[stark thicket]

carry me in tfd

[nova garden]

i gotta grind story bro

[urban obsidian]

icy are you hm yet

[nova garden]

need to unlock hard mode asap

[urban obsidian]

grind faster

we need to farm ULTIMATE BUNNY

[uneven mortar]

how do you unlock hm

[nova garden]

bro, i've been working the past 5 days

[urban obsidian]

you finish base story

[urban obsidian]

[nova garden]

this is the first day i've had to play

[uneven mortar]

whaat

[urban obsidian]

FASTER

[uneven mortar]

can you show me your loadout

[urban obsidian]

if my game was open sure

[prime wind]

feels bad when the db on your team is bottom dps

[urban obsidian]

but its not

[nova garden]

i was at the beginning of white night this morning btw

i've been going hard bro

[prime wind]

also there was only 1 other dark thrown this entire gate

i threw 4

smh

[urban obsidian]

so you are done?

[nova garden]

still got another two zones left in fortress

[prime wind]

if they threw 1 dark they would have literally killed the snake in the 2nd clash

[blissful rose]

Freyba stabilizer won't drop

I did this boring ass mission 10 times now

[nova garden]

it only took me 3 times

[blissful rose]

[uneven mortar]

echinussy

[midnight marlin]

welcome to looter shooter

[urban obsidian]

crzy its TIME

[nova garden]

think paper said he did it over 20 tmes

[urban obsidian]

TO FARM ULT BUNNY

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/6664effaa4cae22f82d9797b/3x.gif

[prime wind]

saving darks for t4

[urban obsidian]

jk

i just got off im not getting back on rn

[prime wind]

it survived 2nd clash with 3 bars

[urban obsidian]

later

[vagrant cradle]

stop farming the coomer bait

[kindred ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/reidsonm-gif-21586450

[midnight marlin]

its time to prog echidna

[urban obsidian]

you said that 4 hours ago

[kindred ravine]

he's been progging this whole time

still hasn't cleared

[urban obsidian]

bro is yapping too much

to be progging

[kindred ravine]

why you think he didn't clear yet

[uneven mortar]

that raid is so fucking tilting

[kindred ravine]

[uneven mortar]

just need nexon to start releasing swimsuit

[kindred ravine]

does mastery exp bank and roll over? or do i need to instantly go level it each time

[uneven mortar]

cuz i truly think lost ark wont last in west

[midnight marlin]

roll over

[kindred ravine]

it might last longer with solo raids. i know some people who were waiting for that to come

[uneven mortar]

in china it will though since they tailor the difficulty for tht region

for some fuckin reason

[wintry depot]

because their contract probably allows it

[tulip charm]

when echida comes out in cn they will make it your charm only goes rogue if you have 20 stacks of charm

and lasers only do 5k dmg

[sand marsh]

AGS contract: "dont say shit and let them rice farm"

[fallow marlin]

thats because in every cn published games the devs are not in control but the publishers themselves

[tulip charm]

thaemine in cn won't use a greatsword, it will use a reaper dagger instead

[sand marsh]

[fallow marlin]

basically giving the cn publisher absolute control is one of the things you have to do to get the unlimited sums of money you earn in china

[sand marsh]

more people would prolly swipe if AGS had control

i would at least

[fallow marlin]

eh

its different

[uneven mortar]

feels good man being f2p all this time

[sand marsh]

i cant swipe in a game where the publisher is more dented than CN

jus feels like my money is being burned more than it would be by default

[fallow marlin]

cn probably made more money than global kr combined

[sand marsh]

sure, but i cant think of a scenario where publisher having control would result in a negative

[fallow marlin]

uhh

[sand marsh]

more CCU should result in more income

[fallow marlin]

i can think of many results

[sand marsh]

its low cuz, ya know

[fallow marlin]

and have seen that happen

[tulip charm]

they might have, at least for the first few months, not 100% sure on this

[fallow marlin]

kakaogames with bdo

is one of the latest one i can think of

[tulip charm]

but cn dosn't have coomer skins, how do you play that game -_-

[sand marsh]

okay yea kakao true

[fallow marlin]

theres many more examples on how a publisher screwed a game

[sand marsh]

If we had control i'm sure it would result in a healthier playerbase.

Or maybe we have control but AGS is stupid.

[fervent ibex]

the same AGS that designed new world btw

a game they had full control over

[sand marsh]

true but thats a brand new game, from scratch

[tulip charm]

[sand marsh]

much different in my opinion

[fallow marlin]

let me finish this chaos gate

[tulip charm]

that ship's long sailed

[sand marsh]

lost ark is already figured out

cause of KR

[tulip charm]

a kingdom worth ruling something something

[fervent ibex]

not to mention, AGS isnt as amazing as you think it is

people hear "Amazon Games Studio" and focus on the Amazon part

Amazon just bought a small game studio out

they're not like flush with cash bro

amazon barely cares about AGS

[sand marsh]

Yeah I'm not saying they are amazing. But if we had control, all you have to do is look at player feedback and communicate.

With the case of new world, it's their own game.

The combat itself is a dumpster fire

[fervent ibex]

new world also doesnt listen to their playerbase, something they can completely fix

cuz they have full rights over that game at least

they legit scrapped the new world discord

[fallow marlin]

okay

[sand marsh]

In some cases they have, but I don't keep up with the game fully.

[fervent ibex]

thats how much they dont listen to them

[stark thicket]

story

[sand marsh]

But look at the most common feedback. Elixir nerf, cube x3.

[stark thicket]

how long is story?

[sand marsh]

Like if we had control, we woulda had that by now, no?

[fallow marlin]

i really disagree with this because even if you gave ags control atleast the early days of ags didnt know jack shit about the game

and also

ags fucked up

the most important part

of a mmo

[sand marsh]

I bet when CN gets elixirs, they get a nerf pre-emptively

[fallow marlin]

not banning rmters early

thats it

[uneven mortar]

of course they will

cn is golden child

[fervent ibex]

dont you also hate swipers? CN gets prio cuz they're spenders

money talks

[kindred ravine]

damn what an overpowered ability

[nova garden]

i've finished most of it today

[sand marsh]

Well they did ban RMTers earlier. It's not like they didn't ban anyone.

[queen grail]

almost money.

[sand marsh]

But it wasn't perma.

[nova garden]

so maybe 20 hours?

[sand marsh]

In addition, they weren't consistent with the bans.

[fallow marlin]

thats fucking up

if they had permad people from the start

[sand marsh]

fair

But you can't ban hand-farmed gold.

[fallow marlin]

atleast we got the meme of a life time

[sand marsh]

Even KR has that problem.

[fallow marlin]

hand farmed gold

is never a problem

kr even showed it on graphs

it doesnt really affect much

the problem are bot golds

even kr bans bot gold

[kindred ravine]

maybe i'll get Enzo and be a supp main in TFD

[fervent ibex]

you know what hand-farmed gold is? its just regular gold in circulation LOL

you can hand farm your own gold too

people just pay others to do it on their behalf

[kindred ravine]

bro's outfit is fucking goofy

[fervent ibex]

make some rice eater accounts, only run valtan to brel

[sand marsh]

Yeah you are right. it doesn't have nearly as much of an impact as bots printing millions of gold.

[fallow marlin]

why i really disagree ags would have done better if they failed the basics of being a publisher in the first place

[sand marsh]

CN took action with RMT, but as a result you have much less freedom in that game I believe.

[fallow marlin]

tencent can make things extremely p2w

[sand marsh]

I can't really tell what is worse.

[fallow marlin]

but they atleast know how to publish games

[fervent ibex]

the whole "RealID = less freedom" is a load of shit lol

[sand marsh]

That's not what I mean.

[fervent ibex]

whats the less freedom?

[sand marsh]

I meant in the actual game.

You can't mail X amount of gold, sell over X amount on the market, things like that.

I don't know the specifics.

[uneven mortar]

i played bns cn its not too bad

[fervent ibex]

? they have hard rules on that or this just secondhand shit you've heard

cuz i havent seen this

[uneven mortar]

if i can understand chinese i wouldve played chinese mmos

lol

[sand marsh]

I don't live in CN. But it's what I have heard from people who play there.

As a f2p player, since it's predatory, people were making accounts to funnel gold into main account.

[uneven mortar]

actually no coomer shit in cn right

[sand marsh]

Since you can't mail as much gold they are madge.

[uneven mortar]

forgot abt that

[fervent ibex]

so they're getting banned for breaking rules

is what ur saying

[sand marsh]

Well no, not banned.

It's just more restrictions.

Than what we have.

[kindred ravine]

slightly less coomer shit but they still have some. and a lot of skulls and concept of death gets censored too

[fervent ibex]

...?

[kindred ravine]

dunno how akkan will work

[fervent ibex]

ngl i feel like those were non-issues

but also i could understand why CN would do that

cuz they literally have gaming laws from preventing their people from dying of gaming

[sand marsh]

They have a way faster release cadence than us.

So keeping up is pretty hard over there.

[stark thicket]

my god shock dn

[sand marsh]

They have worse events than us.

And for a while they didn't give out any free powerpasses.

[fervent ibex]

those are all things that want to make them swipe more

yes

thats how CN works

[uneven mortar]

its crazy how in third week x5 team echidna still annoying af todo

[sand marsh]

Yeah. what im saying is i dont know if I would take that, over AGS being 'incompetent' over RMT.

The worse evil to me, is the CN version.

[fervent ibex]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

eventually their content will slow down and even out

and their publisher will continue to push for better changes for their playerbase

[sand marsh]

Yeah. It took us like 2 years.

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-popcorn-eating-gif-11637371

[sand marsh]

And people felt hella burnt out as f2p

cant imagine how f2p cn feels

probably hella bad

[fervent ibex]

I think our f2p burn out is for a much different reason lmao

than theirs

we had bot gold almost immediately in circulation upon games' release

everything was inflated since day 1

and it only equalized after a year+, where most of the players had already left

and bots continue to comeback, and AGS continues to fumble the bag

[tulip charm]

they will be slightly less burned out
didn't they make it so if you do more than 3 raids on cn you get 50% from 4th raid + as bound gold?

[fervent ibex]

they could do bot bans more often, is it perfect? no, but is it actually doing something? yes

[ebon junco]

is there any guide for newcomers with raid? i always get kicked lol

[fervent ibex]

ask in #lost-ark-help they got all the links for newbies

or just check the pinned msgs in there

[ebon junco]

ohh ty ty

[sand marsh]

From my memory, a lot of people quit after clown and brel. And that was a raid difficulty spike.

[keen copper]

skill issue

[swift tree]

Also a progression spike

[uneven mortar]

you can be maxed gear but when the rest of lobby gears like shit youre fucked either way

[swift tree]

Honing % was significantly lower, Supports were no longer optional and the amount of hours/clear went up.

[uneven mortar]

in other games that allow you to solo somewhat good gear you feel good

[swift tree]

You are also able to craft gear directly then go into raids which offputs classic mmo players when getting into Lost Ark

Tier 1/2 followed this format which makes the shift in Tier 3 worse

[uneven mortar]

too many vertical shit too much things to check

[swift tree]

Classic MMOs it’s usually Quest -> Craft/Daily -> Group -> Raid gear. For each piece of expansion/content.
LOA instead uses same gear you empower via raid drops.

[uneven mortar]

our first t4 raid will be so painful

average players dont veen have gold to max transcendence

[swift tree]

Whole point of solo raids, can get gold from doing them.

[uneven mortar]

and they will build t4 raid for decently geared koreans which has 15 mil gold in their inventory

[sand marsh]

lol wut

[swift tree]

Tier 4 involves a meta shakeup so they can’t design it for maxed players

All ideal class builds go in the bin

[uneven mortar]

we are going to t4 trynna finish our transcendenfe yet koreans will be naking their 6x3 , accessory and gems

[swift tree]

Koreans won’t be maxed at T4 launch, they literally can’t be

[kindred ravine]

because we caught up too fast. we never had that big of a chance to sit the same way KR does

which is another reason people could have quit

[uneven mortar]

they wont be but im sure we will be using lvl 7s while they will be using lvl 8-9s

[gleaming pendant]

and hs fucking dogshit

[worn current]

Echidna jailge

[kindred ravine]

i might say fuck it and just buy enzo

[midnight marlin]

yujin

good

heal, dr, cleanse

[fervent ibex]

1 hour sneak peak

[kindred ravine]

yeah sneak peak of the first 3 episodes

time for bed. more TFD life tomorrow

[fervent ibex]

RIP

[kindred ravine]

first half of episode 1

LOL

[fervent ibex]

yup

[kindred ravine]

what dogshit

[midnight marlin]

THEYRE PLAYING WACCA AT GDQ

HOLY FUUUUUUUUUcK

[dawn yacht]

they will never animate the whole thing the bloody manga is still going

[midnight marlin]

@rigid aurora

WACCCAAAA

[dawn yacht]

[kindred ravine]

all they're doing is that stupid ass shit like they did with demon slayer in theatres. last 2 episodes of the season then half of the first new one or some shit

[gleaming pendant]

all they're doing is that stupid ass shit like they did with demon slayer in theatres. last 2 episodes of the season then half of the first new one or some shit

[kindred ravine]

all they're doing is that stupid ass shit like they did with demon slayer in theatres. last 2 episodes of the season then half of the first new one or some shit

[midnight marlin]

oh it just ended

fk

[dawn yacht]

manga got 629 chapters

[kindred ravine]

fk u Kae how did Baker tell you happy birthday! that's crazy! i can't believe that shit

[fervent ibex]

i fear you're right 😭 but if they're animating all of one piece AGAIN, they can do this

[dawn yacht]

[kindred ravine]

don't worry they'll just squeeze 150 chapters into 1 season

simple enough

[gleaming pendant]

CAUSE OF YOU MY GUY

[kindred ravine]

YOU'RE BAKER'S BIGGEST FAN

HE PERSONALLY SAID HAPPY BIRTHDAY KAE

[sand marsh]

tower of god has 629 chapters?

[gleaming pendant]

and when you did that, my bday was already over by 2 weeks

[dawn yacht]

yeah

[sand marsh]

wtf

they are never gonna catch up

[dawn yacht]

and another big war barely started

[sand marsh]

is it any good

maybe i read

[fervent ibex]

its pretty good

arts a bit... iffy

but storys great

[sand marsh]

s1 anime seemed kina stale to me

but ig it doesnt cover much

[dawn yacht]

its fine

[uneven mortar]

arts alright

story is good

[fervent ibex]

the arts a bit hard for me to stomach zz

but the story makes up for it so its chill

[sand marsh]

hmmm.

the art im used too is like

uhhh

[fervent ibex]

solo leveling? 😭

[sand marsh]

I can't think of any but this one atm my brain is fried

Skeleton soldier couldn't protect the Dungeon i think

[fervent ibex]

SL artist dying is actually the biggest loss for manwha 😭

[uneven mortar]

sl artist ded?

wtf

its a studio no?

[fervent ibex]

iirc the main illustrator died no?

[sand marsh]

solo leveling isnt bad, but there's so many better ones that go un-noticed

[urban obsidian]

@midnight marlin IT IS TIME

TO FARM ULT BUNNY

https://tenor.com/view/ado-usseewa-naima-adosolos-explosion-gif-7865961750482870059

[teal thistle]

They butchered ToG art/animation, its so sad to see it

[dawn yacht]

yes he passed away some time ago

[uneven mortar]

im sick of solo levelling archetype korean manhwas

[teal thistle]

Solo leveling was overhyped

That why it flopped

[uneven mortar]

they really gotta fuckin try something different lol

[teal thistle]

:v

[uneven mortar]

its like marvel nowadays

use same fkn recipe to create movie

no wonder no one fkn watches anymore

[fervent ibex]

the SL story to me is just kinda whatever, its the manwha art that made me read it lol

[urban obsidian]

[sand marsh]

yea the art is solid

[teal thistle]

Its the truth bro

They even got Sawano to do the soundtracks

Still flopped

L

[fervent ibex]

i also dont like the new TBATE art, its a subtle change, but everything looks more flat and not as clean/detailed

[uneven mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERjERrF5ni4

i been waiting for this

[stark thicket]

wow its ken

give cookie everyone

[sand marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1255936384141754438.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[fervent ibex]

the old TBATE artist is now doing a regressor black sheep story

[uneven mortar]

i dont know how lotm anime will work lol

some of the descriptions they have in the novel will be extremely difficult to replicate

[urban obsidian]

MY GOAT

[teal thistle]

😐

https://tenor.com/view/deer-anime-girl-my-deer-friend-nokotan-nokotan-gif-12769454977637694232

[fervent ibex]

where is your "My Plans for T4" video? ive seen everyone and their mother make this video

i dont watch any of these people, but its recommended to me daily

[sand marsh]

uhhh

im too lazy

[dull obsidian]

I got my 2nd 4-3 clear

[sand marsh]

plus my plans arent too crazy

5 1620s

1 1640

[sand marsh]

nice!!

[queen grail]

"not too crazy"

Bigger roster than 1% of playerbase

[fervent ibex]

hes not hardcore btw

[keen copper]

casual roster

[queen grail]

Not a weeb either.

[fervent ibex]

[sand marsh]

pretty sure all of the "my plans for t4 videos" will showcase the same exact thing

[queen grail]

Only watched 5000 anime shows.

[sand marsh]

would be boring to watch lol

[queen grail]

[queen grail]

Then, do something different, talk about how you're going to do the amazing new music box and whatnot really engage with the video!

[sand marsh]

i rather die

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/792267856761847809.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[queen grail]

Wow, that's, you know, a bit of an exaggeration.

[gleaming pendant]

he will still main pally

[sand marsh]

dont post weeb gif pls

[dull obsidian]

I think

I will be 2 1630 and 4 1620s

for t4 patch

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/595572985616924692/1168347387115339786/party2.gif

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-anime-fate-gif-17099217

[queen grail]

That's an Ayayay, she's a race from Lost Ark and not an Anime.

[sand marsh]

same thing

[keen copper]

ill be 1640 and my second highest alt is 1610

[sand marsh]

thats better than me

[keen copper]

peak casual

[sand marsh]

hmmm maybe ill get some 1630s then

[gleaming pendant]

TFD main now

[queen grail]

Not really, she's a race in Lost Ark, and this is the face of a weeb.

[sand marsh]

[fervent ibex]

bro is literally animated LMAO

i never caught that

[keen copper]

nah actually not even that hard into tfd yet, not even lvl 40/hard mode

[sand marsh]

nah its me

spitten image

[fallow marlin]

ah crap actually have to check peoples gems now

[gleaming pendant]

I am at pyromaniac

[fallow marlin]

when doing raids

[sand marsh]

why

[fervent ibex]

nah ur more older looking and ur wig looks faker irl

[sand marsh]

bro pls stfu

[fallow marlin]

people coming with level 5's

[keen copper]

im in echo swap

[sand marsh]

my hair is fine

eat my ass

[queen grail]

He's the protagonist in his anime show "Not a Weeb Btw"

[sand marsh]

for what???

[robust birch]

What hair

[sand marsh]

wait what

LOL

[dull obsidian]

you'll have a 1640?

[sand marsh]

already have a 1640?

[dull obsidian]

see

whale

[queen grail]

That's a bit too sexual, calm down

[dull obsidian]

more 1620s than me

and a 1640

[sand marsh]

it's literally free

[fervent ibex]

werent you shooting for 1650 before T4?

[fallow marlin]

people already removing gems on their alts and putting it all on mains now

[dull obsidian]

[gleaming pendant]

[sand marsh]

if u have a 1630

1640 is free

[fervent ibex]

[sand marsh]

why

[queen grail]

It's free, just 700k gold.

But you know, It's free.

[gleaming pendant]

if youh ave 1640, 1650 is free!

[sand marsh]

advacned honing from 1 to 10 isn't that much lol

[queen grail]

[sand marsh]

Granted I was 1633

[fallow marlin]

to get t4 gems i guess i dont know

[queen grail]

What's the avg cost per item? 100k++

[fallow marlin]

really dumb

[urban obsidian]

this anime is

actual slop

LMAO

[gleaming pendant]

rmb to hone with bound!

[sand marsh]

lol no

[fallow marlin]

just annoying i have to actually check gems when i didnt have to

[dull obsidian]

I only have like 700k gold here

poorge

[kindred ravine]

Bro saving for lost ark 2

[gleaming pendant]

ok whale?

[queen grail]

lol yes, in raw cost it's like 70k+ and unless It's an old char It's not going to have the 1k leaps on avg per item so that's another few thousands + fusion.

[urban obsidian]

stop being so omegadum

[fervent ibex]

why do you still have valtan/vykas reds and blues

[sand marsh]

i spent maybe 30 to 40k per piece, including buying fusions here & there

[dull obsidian]

I bus shit

[urban obsidian]

thats cap

[queen grail]

That's, 🧢

[sand marsh]

??

[keen copper]

unironically giga cap

[sand marsh]

i didnt have to buy leaps lmao

[fervent ibex]

nah i believe it, cuz scalp is actually the luckiest person i know

[sand marsh]

and i had quite a bit of fucions saved up

[fervent ibex]

he could pull that off

[urban obsidian]

so you..

[fervent ibex]

ofc he'll bitch he's the unluckiest person he knows

[sand marsh]

plus i great succeeded a ton

[urban obsidian]

[bitter lichen]

[urban obsidian]

literally zheng 2.0

[sand marsh]

that calc is never accurate for me

im always way below avg

[fervent ibex]

so ur always lucky

[sand marsh]

no

[fervent ibex]

is what ur saying

[urban obsidian]

.

[sand marsh]

not even close to lucky

[urban obsidian]

.

[fervent ibex]

LMAOFPAOIJHWSDIOADJ

[queen grail]

That's 1300 Leaps for wep, let's say armor is 800/avg per, that's another 4000k+1300, no one has 5,000+ Leaps just lying around as surplus.

[fervent ibex]

SOMEONE SHOOT THIS MAN

PLEASE

in game

[urban obsidian]

im pretty sure

[keen copper]

i wish i was this delusional

[queen grail]

Even the chars I got up early had like 3k.

[urban obsidian]

i was right shinn

[keen copper]

life would be so easy

[sand marsh]

i've never been lucky tbh

if i was i'd have a sidereal

[urban obsidian]

?

didnt you like

3 tap +25 wep

[fervent ibex]

OKAHDFOIAHIOWDA

[sand marsh]

well, ig u can count the 3 tap 25 wep yea

outside of that tho

[fervent ibex]

nah i cant handle this much delulu

[urban obsidian]

anyways

[sand marsh]

wdymmm

[urban obsidian]

'.

[keen copper]

i hit 25 wep at 6%, but i still know adv honing isnt 30k a piece

[sand marsh]

it was for me. shrug

i'll start working on wep once i have my last 1620

[fervent ibex]

this sort of mentality is what leads to people like elon musk existing

[sand marsh]

11 to 20 is gonna be so annoying

[urban obsidian]

buying absolutely no mats

average still 50k

[sand marsh]

that's 1 to 10?

[urban obsidian]

per piece yes

if you buy absolutely NOTHING

[sand marsh]

yea i spent waaay less than that. especially the mats

[urban obsidian]

[sand marsh]

when i started i had 900k shards

when i was done

i had like 400k

[fervent ibex]

i think ur memory is garbage perhaps lol

cuz u just said u went -500k shards

[sand marsh]

huh

[urban obsidian]

dw guys advanced honing is cheap

[sand marsh]

honor shards brudda

[fervent ibex]

yes

[sand marsh]

the calc says 371k per piece

[queen grail]

@sand marsh Zero people even if they got their chars up early (and if they got it up super early that's just another testament to them being whales) Will have a huge surplus of leaps to hone with, so let's say you have 2-3k per char, then you have to buy another 3k+ [50x3000 = 150k] Let's say you get a bit lucky and you tap 50 times per armor, that's 18 fusion times 50 = 900, [hardly anyone has fusion extra just lying around, so that's another, 63k] + Raw tap cost 47.500, that's 110k already just in Fusion + Raw tap, not even accounting for leaps missing.

And then you have to do that 5 times.

[sand marsh]

i didnt spent anywhere close to 2.4mil honor shards lmao

[queen grail]

And weapon is more expensive.

[sand marsh]

i didnt have even half of that

[queen grail]

So on average, all armor + wep 1>10 is going to easly cost you 700-800k++

[urban obsidian]

"i got lucky that means everyone else does too and thats not the real cost"

??

[fervent ibex]

u said u just went -500k shards? the calc says 371k, but the gold you spent is significantly less?

[queen grail]

But ye, 700-800k Is cheap and free man.

[sand marsh]

I said i spent less, especially the mats.

gold and mats included

im surprised the calc says 371k shards

[sand marsh]

500k in total

not per piece

I have done every armor except for chest

[queen grail]

371k shards are 67 Taps.

[sand marsh]

wtf

[queen grail]

If you used 500k shards.

You did a lot more taps.

And you spent a LOT more than what you said.

Like a lot lot more.

[bitter lichen]

ded gaem

[sand marsh]

500k in total across the 4 armor pieces though

[queen grail]

67 taps is 1206 Fusion and 1474 Leaps.

[sand marsh]

not per peice...

[fervent ibex]

yo if literally everyone tells me im wrong, but i still think im right, just kill me outright

[queen grail]

HAHAHAHA

You didn't spend only 500k on 4 armor parts.

You're fucking trolling yourself.

This is some Chuan Zheng level delusion now.

[urban obsidian]

ill get pahlev or justin to do it since theyre already in toronto

[sand marsh]

Wish i had a clip. shrug

[fervent ibex]

true true

[sand marsh]

I know i started with 900k

[queen grail]

That's 16,75 Taps per armor @sand marsh

[urban obsidian]

id need to get my passport to do that myself

and thats a shit load of work

[sand marsh]

when i was done I had 300-400k left

somewhere around there

for 4 armor to +10

[queen grail]

You need 6 taps to get special taps, so you're trying to say you ONLY got 3 special tap's per armor? @sand marsh

You're fucking high as a god damn kite.

[sand marsh]

like i said, i great succeeded a ton

[fervent ibex]

just drive down, please, for me

LMAO

[urban obsidian]

you know i aint actually live in canada tf

[fervent ibex]

i'll never get tired of xqc mizu jokes

yes ik

[queen grail]

You would have had to litteraly hit Great success EACH time, like EACH time to even have a slim chance to do it, not to mention great chance + the best outcom on each of the 3 special ones to even have a chance @sand marsh

[fervent ibex]

ur floridian

[sand marsh]

i watched someone in discord VC spend 35k gold going from wep 1 to 10. in tap cost

[urban obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

expecting man delusional about his baldness to not be delusional about other things

[fervent ibex]

a fr*nch floridian

[sand marsh]

the calc shows a way diff value lol

[buoyant wagon]

[urban obsidian]

nah

im like a 3 and a half hour drive from toronto now

after the move

[fervent ibex]

ur not from florida?

oh pog

[buoyant wagon]

it's worse

[fervent ibex]

so ur actually in montreal now? or what

[buoyant wagon]

he's french canadian

[urban obsidian]

no

im in detroit

[fervent ibex]

.

bro downgraded from the downgrade

how?

[urban obsidian]

gramps bought a house

[buoyant wagon]

french canadian, floridian, and now in detroit

[urban obsidian]

why would we not take a house

[queen grail]

That's still 31 taps, and you're trying to say you did avg 16 taps per armor part.

That's just not happening man.

[sand marsh]

All I know is I 100% started with 900k, maybe 950k. Didn't have to buy any shards and had a few hundred thousand left over.

[fervent ibex]

cuz its in detroit

[urban obsidian]

ackshually

its 30 minutes outside of detroit

🤓

[queen grail]

You didn't, you fucked up the math somewhere.

[buoyant wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpJy38HNjMU&ab_channel=Oranjpeel

[urban obsidian]

also

[sand marsh]

ok sure

[urban obsidian]

now i can go hangout with justin and family

[sand marsh]

i great succeeded a ton of times. i thought it was normal since it says 15% chance

[urban obsidian]

yeh

[queen grail]

If you "avg" 16, then that means some hit lower for it to math out unless you hit the exact same number on each, right? We agree that's how math works? If 16 is the average then that means some are higher, some are lower, so you're saying that some of your armor taps was less taps than 16 taps to go from 1>16.

[urban obsidian]

just like 3 tapping 25 wep is normal

[queen grail]

And how low would that be? 10? You did 1-10 in 10 taps?

That's some sick hax you have to do 1 lvl per tap.

[urban obsidian]

@midnight marlin when we getting a full void intercept static fr

[fervent ibex]

you dont fill up the entire bar in a single tap? just me and scalp?

[sand marsh]

It says 4.9k leaps for 4 armor. I spent 1500. I didn't have many bound leaps

[queen grail]

You don't just 1-10 in 10 hits bro?

[queen grail]

HAHAHAHAHA

[sand marsh]

maybe a lil more or a lil less

[bitter lichen]

[fervent ibex]

sometimes, when im super lucky, i hit 2 levels in a single tap. its called pattern recognition

[urban obsidian]

@nova garden no lifing wdf

[sand marsh]

I'm not saying everyone will have this luck.

[urban obsidian]

scalp are you done with tfd yet

[sand marsh]

i just didnt know the calc showed a value like that

[urban obsidian]

we need a 4th for intercepts

[fervent ibex]

are you finally admitting you're giga lucky?

[queen grail]

You didn't fucking spend that little that makes the average way way way to low for you to actually have done it.

[sand marsh]

whenever i drop a sidereal sure

[fervent ibex]

then stay delusional

[sand marsh]

im lv 39

almost 40

[urban obsidian]

that

has nothing to do with progress

[sand marsh]

oh

then im prolly nowhere close

[urban obsidian]

you could have not touched the story at all and be lvl 40

i was lvl 40 before i was done with like the 4th area

[fervent ibex]

mizu hack me a way to play 2 EAC games at once

i'll be ur 4th

[urban obsidian]

just

[fervent ibex]

[urban obsidian]

quit lost ark?

its a shit game anyways

[fervent ibex]

are you gay?

dont answer that

[urban obsidian]

yes

for you

[bitter lichen]

[sand marsh]

yikes

[fervent ibex]

i knew it

[bitter lichen]

lost ark ded game

[queen grail]

@sand marsh Ok, let's agree on something ye? If we agree that you did that few taps, hell, we will use your silly leaps even that puts your avg at 17, you agree that you couldn't have gotten the exact 100% outcome each time, right?

[sand marsh]

Aly stop typing a paragraph pls

[queen grail]

It's one line, you can't read?

[urban obsidian]

thats 2 setences

not a paragraph

[sand marsh]

i forgot how to read just now srry

[fervent ibex]

american education

[queen grail]

No wonder you don't know how much you fucking spent if this is a paragraph.

[fervent ibex]

LMFAO

okay aly with the clap back

[urban obsidian]

[sand marsh]

you spent like 3mins typing that

[urban obsidian]

tfd story is like 30 hours long

shit game

too much story

[sand marsh]

i dont read this much. too much for me

[queen grail]

I'm doing something called fact checking, you should try it.

[fervent ibex]

come play ffxiv, only 800 hours

[queen grail]

But ok, I'm just going to assume you agree'ed that if 17 is avg then some numbers needs to be higher and others lower.

[sand marsh]

why would i lie about how much i spent lol. i know what i spent.

[urban obsidian]

fuuuck no

fuck tab targeting LMAO

[sand marsh]

i watched someone great succeed every tap from 1 to 10 on weapon

[urban obsidian]

45 hours in 4 days

[queen grail]

So let's say it's 11 - 16 20 and 21 that puts you at 68.
Do you really think you ever hit an 11? Or anything close to that? @sand marsh That's almost a full bar per click, and it takes 6 clicks to get the special effects where you can fill a bar fast.

[robust birch]

Erp when

[urban obsidian]

done with story when

[fervent ibex]

my free trial just expired, spent the entire thing ERPing, no regrats

[robust birch]

Based asf

[sand marsh]

There were quite a few times where i skipped 2 levels or something

I don't know what that special one is called

[urban obsidian]

so you got

LUCKY

?

[fervent ibex]

thats actually so insanely lucky LMFAO

skipping 2 levels, MULTIPLE times is wild

[queen grail]

It takes 6 taps alone to get to that effect, and it does not skip 2 full levels.

[fervent ibex]

i havent done that ONCE yet on all my taps

[sand marsh]

no im saying when i got the special effect

[frail swallow]

Christ I am struggling with the Pyromaniac

[sand marsh]

i would skip 2 levels or something, at least 6+ times from my recollection

[queen grail]

So, you tap 6 times [Let's say you filled 1 and a half bar] you fill 2 [omegalul no] and then you did that again that's 12 taps for 7 bars.

[urban obsidian]

hes a pain in the ass for sure lmao

[sand marsh]

i didnt know if it was lucky or not cause i was jus tapping it

[queen grail]

So where are the rest? 3 more bars before you click more?

[urban obsidian]

it took me like 5 or 6 hours to finally beat him

[high fog]

only way to skip is double great success + 5x

[robust birch]

I'm working so I can afford booba ultimate bunny skin

[high fog]

which is like negative % odds no?

[fervent ibex]

it is LOL

its like legit 9/7 cutting

[frail swallow]

I literally equipped and upgraded Heat Antibody just to not get melted

[fervent ibex]

to skip an entire level

[sand marsh]

huh, no way

[worn current]

None of the twitch ad blockers work anymore

[queen grail]

No no, if you're @sand marsh You do it back to back before you even fill up the bar that takes 6 CLICKS.

[urban obsidian]

yeh the orb basically one shots nomatter how much resist you have

[frail swallow]

Yes it does

[midnight marlin]

doesnt one shot lepic

[vagrant cradle]

[frail swallow]

And honestly its boiling down to damage from team not being enough

[fervent ibex]

i think its a regional thing, cuz my uBlock works perfectly fine on twitch now, but some of my friends in the US say different

[urban obsidian]

do it solo/trio

not 4

[fervent ibex]

they might just be injecting ads to specific regions

[sand marsh]

I agree it takes 6 taps. but those 6 taps cause me to skip an entire 2 levels, and that happened multiple times

[worn current]

ads are cringe

[urban obsidian]

so im hearing this right... right?

you got

LUCKY

?

[sand marsh]

mizu, yes i did

but

[urban obsidian]

so stop saying you didnt

dumbass

[sand marsh]

still no sidereal

idk man

[queen grail]

You see this white bar? That's the expected result after clicking.

[vagrant cradle]

[sand marsh]

brotha i know

the normal taps were almost always great success

and the special one

id skip levels

happened quite a few times

[fervent ibex]

again, skipping levels is legit 9/7 luck LMAO

[brazen smelt]

is the echidna snake clash the same atk power buff as thaemine?

[sand marsh]

it's that rare?

wtf

9/7 no way

[queen grail]

Ok, but how much do you think it fills when you hit great?

[fervent ibex]

you need to get the lowest chance Grace and then double great success

[sand marsh]

i shoulda cut stones that day jesus

[fervent ibex]

and you're saying u did it multiple times

[queen grail]

You mean the special one that takes 6 taps to work up too?

Also, it does not skip 2 full levels.

[fervent ibex]

Grace

[neon cedar]

Did you ever sleep?

[stark thicket]

hello

did u try tfd?

[lime dove]

thats only like 11 hours a day

lots of time for sleep

if u dont work or anythin

maybe work from home idk

[fervent ibex]

plus he's a NEET

[vagrant cradle]

[fervent ibex]

mizu doesnt school or work rn

[urban obsidian]

i was up for 39 hours straight

[vagrant cradle]

only sleeping + tfd

please step outside

[urban obsidian]

yesterday

it wasnt all playing tfd tho

[vagrant cradle]

[urban obsidian]

i went out for 4th of july

[midnight marlin]

ew

wtf

outside

[urban obsidian]

but yeh 45 hours is only like 11 hours a day

?/

thats better than most loa players

[stark thicket]

im still playing ZZZ

[urban obsidian]

CRZY ITS TIME

[stark thicket]

im invested

[urban obsidian]

TO FARM ULT BUNNY

[neon cedar]

Holy, idk how you had energy to party after like 30 hours of gaming

[urban obsidian]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/6664effaa4cae22f82d9797b/3x.gif

[midnight marlin]

no

[urban obsidian]

WTF

[midnight marlin]

its time to prog echidna

[urban obsidian]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/6664effaa4cae22f82d9797b/3x.gif

NO

[urban obsidian]

it was

[stark thicket]

[urban obsidian]

play game for 10 hours

[fervent ibex]

echidna titties or bunny booty

[urban obsidian]

go out

[fervent ibex]

its a tough choice

[urban obsidian]

come home game for another 10 hours

go bed

[midnight marlin]

it was supposed to start 20 min ago but delayed an hour

so

[urban obsidian]

now im up and paltying game for another 10 hours

??

[supple parrot]

@sand marsh we doing echidna later?

[urban obsidian]

LMAO

[neon cedar]

Ah, the party brought the second wind

[urban obsidian]

tho i might go watch youtube for a bit tho

before i play more

braden when you joining our tfd static

[midnight marlin]

just watch a single lck highlight

thats how long prog will take

[urban obsidian]

cap

ur a jailer

[neon cedar]

I just don't think I have time

[lime dove]

[urban obsidian]

oh

the guy who made that echidna thing

[midnight marlin]

yeah i have my pvp set on and get mv'd

[urban obsidian]

made one with grown up whatever tf her name is

the sage girl

[lime dove]

thats creepy

[midnight marlin]

why

[lime dove]

waiting for her to turn 18 kinda vibe

[urban obsidian]

what

[lime dove]

what u mean grown up version

[neon cedar]

I have to become and Elden Lord, and prog HM thae & HM Enchilada, and I have to sleep, and hang with niece and work and and and

[urban obsidian]

the

[queen grail]

The best non-full orb you can get is 5% to hit, and it gives this much.

So, if you hit only those, (lol no) then maybe? 3 tap's per armor + 2x armor each 6 tap meaning you would do 3-1 / 3-2 / 1 -4 / 3 -5 / 3-6 / 1-8 / 3-9 / 3-10 and look at that even with your absurd luck that's still 20 taps. @sand marsh

[lime dove]

is it a kid?

[midnight marlin]

but she had an adult body

[urban obsidian]

adult

[lime dove]

[urban obsidian]

we meet

[midnight marlin]

it was destroyed

[urban obsidian]

at the start?

[queen grail]

And that's with all 5% hits

[urban obsidian]

of voldis

?

[sand marsh]

I don't have a clip but I was getting this a bunch. the x2 thing https://youtu.be/HetgfGlwFyg?si=gxZZ3ZBt8b4S6lw8&t=175

[queen grail]

Sure, you go right ahead and hit 5% 20 times in a row.

[sand marsh]

idk bro. i started with 900k shards. and i didnt buy any shards. maybe i used all 900k, but if that was the case idk how im back up to 900k already. i stopped 2 weeks ago

[tawny lion]

If I take a job that pays more but have way less time to play do I come out ahead if I swipe 💳

[queen grail]

Even with your absurdius "it skips 2 lvls" claims.

[fervent ibex]

can you europeans stop using facts and logic? ur gonna break his lil murican mind

[queen grail]

It does not add up.

The math does not add up.

[fervent ibex]

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/my-bad-oh-okay-alright-gif-24341012

[urban obsidian]

@midnight marlin how many weapons do we need

[sand marsh]

i thought it was skipping 2. maybe it only skipped 1

[urban obsidian]

for it to be max

4 dupes?

[queen grail]

The math, does not, add up, at all, even accounting for your absurd "it skips 2 lvl each time on grace" it simply do not add up.

You're saying you hit all 5% each time 20 times in a row, and even then, that's not 17 on average.

That's 20 on average.

And that's not possible, at all.

[sand marsh]

i didnt say everytime, im just saying it hit frequently. and got the x2 thing a lot

[queen grail]

It would have had to hit everytime.

[sand marsh]

i was juicing every tap cause i didnt know what i was doing

[queen grail]

That's the point.

For it to actually "work".

To hit 1-10 in so few taps.

[fervent ibex]

you full juiced every tap?

[queen grail]

You would have had to hit 5% each time + special 5% each grace.

[sand marsh]

idk how else to explain that i started with 900k shards. i havent been at 1mil+ since I hit 1633.

[sand marsh]

yeah

[queen grail]

Bad memory?

[sand marsh]

then later on someone told me not to do that

[sand marsh]

no. i vividly remember the amount of shards

cause i was worried it might not be enough

[queen grail]

From what I know tho @fervent ibex Juice only increase chance not base % of gain or?

Each attempt has a chance to increase the progress for that level by 10, 20, or 40 points. This chance can be influenced by using a specific amount of
Solar Grace,
Solar Blessing, and
Solar Protection.

[fervent ibex]

yeah i was just looking at that lol

[queen grail]

It's 100 points to fill a bar, you would have had to hit 40 each time on to get as low numbers as he's speaking off.

[neon cedar]

[queen grail]

And even then, as I said, that's still 20 taps.

[fervent ibex]

its whatever, let it go, scalps always exaggerating shit

flame him when he starts giving misinfo to people who ask

?misinfo

[tawny gate]

Spreading Misinformation is against the rules!

Spreading misinformation intentionally or with malintent is against our server rules. Even as a joke, the truth gets misconstrued and people get confused. This includes editing official sources for the game to imitate the publisher or a GM.
There will be penalties for such actions.

[tawny lion]

1645 is free right now just don’t play alts

[queen grail]

One of my armor alone was like 45-50 taps.

Damn, forgot to do the last auto attack

[fervent ibex]

yep, 1650 is free, playing a game for 11k hours doesnt make a u hardcore player, being in the top 1% doesnt make u hardcore either, and so what if i've watched every anime in the last 10 years and learned japanese strictly thru anime? im not a weeb

so haha u lose i win

loser

[sand marsh]

?misinfo

[tawny gate]

Spreading Misinformation is against the rules!

Spreading misinformation intentionally or with malintent is against our server rules. Even as a joke, the truth gets misconstrued and people get confused. This includes editing official sources for the game to imitate the publisher or a GM.
There will be penalties for such actions.

[sand marsh]

not 11k

[fervent ibex]

[queen grail]

I'm impressed he can read the hours and know what they mean

(jk jk U)

[sand marsh]

eat dn

[bitter lichen]

[queen grail]

Sure sure mister 20 taps per armor still didn't say correct numbers bro.

[wintry crypt]

What the scallop

10k hours

[sand marsh]

isnt a lot. i had like quadruple this in WoW

[queen grail]

EY! Don't shame us 10k+ ppl.

[urban obsidian]

icyu

HI

[queen grail]

Actual bully moderator.

[fervent ibex]

let it goo (look astraea, im modding the community, please tell the higher ups to give me powers)

[wintry crypt]

Hallo

[wintry crypt]

I’m not bullying tf

I can’t be shocked he has quadruple the hours I do?

[urban obsidian]

you aslways do

[wintry crypt]

Shut up bitch

[urban obsidian]

SEE

[queen grail]

I took the face as bullying, I'm super sad now

[bitter lichen]

lost park ded gaem

[wintry crypt]

You deserved it

[bitter lichen]

[queen grail]

I'm going to go eat candy now.

[buoyant wagon]

damn, scalp has more hours in lost ark than he has hair on his head

[queen grail]

Wait, I don't have candy.

[midnight marlin]

4 dupes

[worn current]

once solo raids come out ill have 20k+ hours

[bitter lichen]

lost park ded gaem!

[urban obsidian]

ok

so i only need 3

since we got one for free

[midnight marlin]

yes

[wintry crypt]

That trailer for season 3 kr it showed the solo raids right

[dawn yacht]

eat a snickers

[queen grail]

Is this a joke that time flies when you're having fun? And since it's solo raid you finally have fun?

[urban obsidian]

cool

[midnight marlin]

can count

[fervent ibex]

yea

[midnight marlin]

[queen grail]

I don't have that either.

[fervent ibex]

u get little NPCs for major mechs that require more people

but otherwise u fight solo

[wintry crypt]

Ooooooo

[dawn yacht]

[wintry crypt]

I wonder what’d it be like for supports

[queen grail]

They showed Paladin doing Brel.

[urban obsidian]

fuck off

[fervent ibex]

the trailer showed brel G2 shapes gave u one NPC to do Star+Square/Diamond, and then Kaya G3 gives 3 NPCs for mirrors

[queen grail]

My only issue is this, if support's don't get "Super strong" like can become (I assume) and therfor dps can speed-run it more effectivly, what about supports?

So far they have fucked up ALL solo content for support.

And they still haven't fixed towers for support.

[fervent ibex]

so you complete the star in brel, and the final mirror in kaya

[queen grail]

The NPC did the star

[fervent ibex]

oh it did?

[queen grail]

The player did Cube.

[midnight marlin]

get big damage if you have a buff

[fervent ibex]

rip

[queen grail]

But, we don't know if it's static what they are doing.

They might mix it around.

So sometimes they do X and others Y.

[worn current]

i wonder how much health the bosses will have and also how much gold you get from it

[fervent ibex]

i think gold will probably be halved, and mats will be increased by x1.5

[queen grail]

We will see, but, I don't hold hope yet, SG seems incompetent when it comes to all solo content for support, even MSQ takes an unreasonable long time to do the "harder" fights as support compared to dps.

[midnight marlin]

because there is no focus on supports

other than a class engraving

this has actual mention of "we want supports to have a different playstyle"

[urban obsidian]

ah yes

support will be unplayable