lost-ark-discussions

[wintry depot]

[queen grail]

[wintry depot]

?

U abandoned me for thaemine

Shush

[gilded forge]

Aly help a brother out i’m begging

[queen grail]

You abandoned me last week for Echidna.

Shuss.

[queen grail]

Sorry hablo no english.

[gilded forge]

I know im only roster 30

[wintry depot]

I didnt, your fault

[gilded forge]

And I know event gems are smelly

[queen grail]

It's more that I'm tired af and just zombie mode questing MSQ before 🛏️

Event gem's are more than enough for brel

[gilded forge]

On nae i dont take ppl with event gems usually

[queen grail]

False news.

[gilded forge]

Unless its obviously an alt at least

[queen grail]

It's, brell.

Full 7's are fine for brel higher better but it's just a brelly.

[gilded forge]

If its roster 40 player and level 7 event gems main character no higher than 1580 and stronghold level sub 20 instant deny from me

My NAE roster is actually only 143

Yet i expect most people who apply to my lobby to be like 170+

[wintry depot]

Thats dumb

[gilded forge]

I deny people for having 0%-3% bonus vs. demons

[queen grail]

[gilded forge]

But I only have 2.07%

[blissful rose]

[queen grail]

That's a bit wonkey yea.

[blissful rose]

classic lost ark player

[keen copper]

spoken like a true lost ark player

[gilded forge]

I deny people for not having Lv10 damage gems on their main skills

I don’t have level 10 damage gems on my main skills

[queen grail]

This smells like a troll.

[gilded forge]

I deny people for not having LoS30

I only have DD30

[supple parrot]

I’m surprised u get applicants

[gilded forge]

Talking about echidna at least

For brel gatekeeping is just whether they have good roster / card set that shows they’ve played for long enough that they should know raid

i get sus vibes from roster 120-130 even though I’m only 143

[supple parrot]

I applied to lobby on nae on my 123 roster

And 1 pulled it

[gilded forge]

Its like acceptable but susge

[tulip charm]

Maybe nae gamers are better?

[gilded forge]

Like sub 100 i wont even consider you usually

[supple parrot]

[gilded forge]

120+ i would think about it

If we’re really down bad / dont get many applicants, sure

[supple parrot]

How do u even get ppl to apply to ur lobby

[queen grail]

The leader's stats should always be the baseline of the "lowest" you accept in a raid

[supple parrot]

At 140 roster

With no los30

[gilded forge]

Idk

[queen grail]

So if you're a weak leader denying everyone that's only a tad stronger / equal than you, that's a bit wonky.

[tulip charm]

If you did that on naw that’s not a 5x lobby someone would have died 35 times before basement

[gilded forge]

My friends think its title diff

I do have some hell titles

maybe they think my title means I am good at the game, or maybe I’m just lucky

[blissful rose]

how r u falling for this bait

[gilded forge]

Its not bait

[supple parrot]

I mean my hm on naw was like 1-2 pulls too

[blissful rose]

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/renge-shrug-non-non-biyori-idk-duck-face-gif-9724581

It's early, I'm bored.

On my third Echidna MSQ in a row

[gilded forge]

Like I make this lobby for echidna this week

I’m basically lowest damage

Everyone who applied is higher gearing than me

I’m only one without LoS30

[tulip charm]

Nothing to do, I don’t wanna run akkan normal on my lopangs and there are no Brel 14 hm lobbies on off weeks

[supple parrot]

Did u prog hm echidna or g4 thaemine

[queen grail]

@wintry depot When this you?

[tulip charm]

maybe I g spam my summoner for kurzan or something

[gilded forge]

I think ppl just wanna see clear achievements and dont care too much about your character, at the current endgame.

[supple parrot]

Zheng doesn’t do latest content. Also Zheng: I got nothing to do

[queen grail]

Too bad It's a stinky spec bard hopefully she has swift too.

[tulip charm]

3 guys in the group had irl stuff this week, we clearing next week. We just did thaemine 1-3h and called it this week. Won’t prog g4 thaemine until another 2 month maybe

[supple parrot]

I mean… u can just join pugs

[gilded forge]

Like if your character seems like it can do the required damage, plus you have good clear achievement progress, people will prioritize you over someone who doesn’t have clear achievement.

Even if they have more gold investment into their character, even

[tulip charm]

Well, I am 0 bar prog, 1 of the supps cleared, and one dps cleared 2 days ago also

[supple parrot]

My char on nae is 35 elixir, lv9 and event gems. Los18. 0 demon dmg

[gilded forge]

I would take it into nm echidna if you had like 5x clear achievement or even 1x if the lobby is slow to fill

[tulip charm]

Just did normal g2 towards the end, it’s not a big deal, I can’t even advance hone on main anyways since I am out of bound leaps

[supple parrot]

Now the fuck would I have x5 with 1 char sir

[gilded forge]

You can’t

I didn’t say my standards were fair

[supple parrot]

I didn’t have any clear on nae. But I somehow got ina lobby and 1 pulled it

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[supple parrot]

[gilded forge]

Actually I know that they aren’t fair

And I still don’t care

[tulip charm]

Do yourself a favor and stay the fk away from reclear/1x lobbies

[gilded forge]

They are bus takers

[supple parrot]

I mean to be fair on naw I only take ppl with 250+ roster and x10 clear

[tulip charm]

huge waste of time to join reclear/1x when you have 10x or 5x

[gilded forge]

Its all about valuing your time

[stark thicket]

The yappening

So much yap

[supple parrot]

I’m surprised I got in both thaemine and echidna on nae this week

[gilded forge]

Thats probably the thing I like about this game the most

It just feels like the game really values your time

[blissful rose]

Newsflash other ppl value their time as well

[tulip charm]

Maybe people starting to recognize the name, it’s the fake mokoko guy

[gilded forge]

[supple parrot]

[queen grail]

Ye, ok, now we know he's trolling for sure

[supple parrot]

I mean

I applied to like 50 groups

[stark thicket]

[gilded forge]

Stoopzz moment

[supple parrot]

Before I got accepted

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-gif-14348867

[supple parrot]

[stark thicket]

Stop bullying

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1124033504435523704.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[gilded forge]

Nah but fr, if you dont defend your own time, the game literally just eats every minute/hour you are willing to put into it

[supple parrot]

[gilded forge]

Thats why gatekeeping is so harsh I think

[queen grail]

I don't see the issue with gameplay time in lost ark.

[stark thicket]

Stop weirdging

[gilded forge]

70% afk time

[supple parrot]

[gilded forge]

[queen grail]

No, maybe 15-20 at max, but doubt that much even.

[gilded forge]

Day 1 hell brel prog (as a jumpstart player/no g5 experience, no read guide beforehand)

[queen grail]

Soon done

[stark thicket]

I stopped, I didn't really have a group and as a returning player you get gatekept so much. all the lobbies put titles that make you feel pressured ... Juicers only

[gilded forge]

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-rar-twitch-emote-gif-18303579789882915511

[bitter lichen]

[supple parrot]

Just apply

[queen grail]

Most "Fast grp" or "Juicers only" are bad grps with bad leaders.

That's why they have the title to try and get strong people to carry them

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-eating-eel-tiktok-gif-24477918

[gilded forge]

Yeah so my group decided to tell me to learn a math equation to figure out where to go for brel 140x mech and I displayed my complete and total understanding of arithmetic here

[queen grail]

And grps with capslock "FAST RUN SUPER FAST HOMEWORK" Are the worst leaders.

[bitter lichen]

fk off

[stark thicket]

Okay bye

[gilded forge]

Feesh succing eel?

[stark thicket]

Not friends anyways

[stark thicket]

[urban obsidian]

awooooga

[blissful rose]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[sacred sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cesar911-cesar911series-dogs-puppies-cute-gif-5725569

[urban obsidian]

[stark thicket]

Me next

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/bark-wacky-man-shout-gif-8375613

[zealous lintel]

can you customize those characters or are they "set"?

[low nebula]

everyone else read guide?

[gilded forge]

Half of lobby is g5 experienced and then me and one or two others have no idea wut the fuck is going on

They gave us a brief breakdown of 140x beforehand verbally

And apparently I did not get it

[supple parrot]

The baker special

[still lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1253088861740073072.gif?size=100&quality=lossless

[gilded forge]

[tulip charm]

Feels wasteful to dismantle all support rocks from this point on, oh wells

[rigid aurora]

the first erpers

[tulip charm]

Someone said the baker special is when you fail 1v1 vs your clone at thaemine g3

[gilded forge]

[tulip charm]

Why is everybody wearing full platemail what is wrong with this game

[supple parrot]

[gilded forge]

I thought the baker special was camera-man POV

at least, it looks worse to fail hitting the boss for 10s-15s at a time than failing any mechanic in the game

[queen grail]

@wintry depot Done Hit helmet at like 15-20%'ish

[gilded forge]

goat

my roster looks so patchwerk compared to urs

[queen grail]

I have a few more hours in the game too I think.

It's not a competition You're roster is good too

[gilded forge]

im happy w/ it

wish I had more 1560's to play them in brel

but for the most part, I enjoy them in gold earning / hell clown/vykas/valtan

(Shadowhunter is getting deleted)

[left maple]

[tulip charm]

I haven’t posted my roster in awhile

[queen grail]

Ayo, Hi coomer lord.

[gilded forge]

I think i'm like 50/50 actual online/afk

ne stay gigachad ?

[left maple]

I will hammer your nuts

[queen grail]

AYO!! THE DROPS ARE GOOD!

@wintry depot @ancient tundra

[gilded forge]

The flow looks good.

[tulip charm]

if this is the real memo, thank you for making those guides
and i reposted your karoke vid recently @left maple

[queen grail]

It's been dry rivers for a while but finally we getting some JUICE

[tulip charm]

@queen grail scrollbar gaming

[left maple]

[supple parrot]

Is there any tfm lobby up

Memo would never post a emote like that

[tulip charm]

i am logging on right now let me check, game booting up in a min

[supple parrot]

That’s not gigachad

[left maple]

[ancient tundra]

WTF

[supple parrot]

Tell Zheng to go suck it

[ancient tundra]

Holy shit gz bro

[gilded forge]

+100,000g, easy

now do it again

[tulip charm]

gratz...i think from the last 30+ rested chaos i got card exp and 1 epic purple pack selector, very fair and balanced game

[supple parrot]

I can’t believe 4 dps died and we enrage at 7bil health i wish there were better lobbies

[ancient tundra]

Don t raid late

[gilded forge]

I often see EUC parties attempting TFM in HA

[supple parrot]

There is no lobbies during the day

[tulip charm]

why are you soloing this i thought u had a dedicated semi group

[ancient tundra]

Oh well

F

[supple parrot]

They cleared the night I went out to smoke cigars

[ancient tundra]

Damn they ditched you

[supple parrot]

I mean it’s a loose group. I just play with them sometimes and they added me

Been doing echidna with them

[tulip charm]

nothing basicly

[queen grail]

Thanks, and then, I left too the kitchen after to talk to a buddy and forgot I was in a chaos so 83% And ran out of time

[supple parrot]

Maybe tmrw

I feel there a lot more tfm lobbies on nae

Than naw

[queen grail]

"fair and balanced game" says the 3x Sideral dropper that does less raid than me.

[tulip charm]

next week is the big week, 3 of the alts go to 1630 and my gold go from 400k to 0

[still lintel]

https://x.com/ZenlessW0rld/status/1807950316718997715?t=0G0Rl5Zj3fslAS2k7fo0SQ&s=19

ZenlessWorldZero (@ZenlessW0rld) on X

Pre-Download Pc & Mobile

Pc: 110GB
Mobile: 17GB

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Twitter · Jul 2, 2024, 1:32 AM

[supple parrot]

wtf Zheng is actually going 6x 1630 before t4

[still lintel]

[ancient tundra]

110gb

?

?

Hell nah

See ya

[queen grail]

I think this is my second actually.

[gilded forge]

tonight ?

[queen grail]

No no.

[still lintel]

Download mobile version on pc

[gilded forge]

I was going to say

[tulip charm]

hone up, there is 0 incentive to wait on advanced honing, since it carries over between gear anyways

[queen grail]

Last was 12.04

So 3 months ago.

[gilded forge]

link the cheatengine code man

[ancient tundra]

Actually big 5head

[gilded forge]

Bluestacks time

[queen grail]

Got 3x of the 50k too also

[supple parrot]

? I’m just never gonna advance hone on alts unless it’s giga cheap in t4

[still lintel]

Also it becomes 50gb when game launches

[supple parrot]

Why would I waste 3 mil+ gold honing alts

[ancient tundra]

Does it use hoyoplay

[supple parrot]

[ancient tundra]

As well ?

[tulip charm]

my rng is all gone i cut another 10/6, this time its on artist, i cut 10/6, 9/6 on main, and 8/7 on gs that could have been another 97 in like 20 rocks self mailed lol

[queen grail]

You know the 4 million++ you got from 3x Siderals are more than most peoples total drops in 1 year?

[gilded forge]

uhh

[tulip charm]

bra i never found a 100k or 200k ember yet lol, i got 50k once

[bitter lichen]

what business does zzz have being 110 gb

[still lintel]

probably

[tulip charm]

i never even found a chaos leg selector

[queen grail]

and I've never found a sideral while doing more raids than you.

[bitter lichen]

boob physics really take up that much space

[queen grail]

https://youtu.be/IPuZGC0DFr8?si=BeSU_-zc6S4aBX8T @ancient tundra

[faint grove]

way more incentive to wait until july to see how t4 actually plays out in korea

[ancient tundra]

I m.too lazy to download

110gb

Time to delete lost ark for it

[tulip charm]

i thought about it, but came to the conclusion there is 0 point in waiting, i am not gonna regular hone ever again since the t4 annoucement, but advance honing for the first 10 levels is another story, you prob have better hit % on advanced honing with t4 mats, but your NOT gonna get 5x>1 efficiency, thats just not gonna happen smg won't monotize it like that lol

there is no point in waiting, at least for the first 1>10 levels for me

[faint grove]

i mean you're most likely right but again its just 2 weeks

better to take an informed decision

in 2 weeks

[gleaming pendant]

[faint grove]

you wont even have enough scales for full lv10 on alts until 2 weeks anyways

so it fits perfectly

[supple parrot]

Cept u don’t know how much advanced honing will cost gold wise

[tulip charm]

just click

[supple parrot]

1620-1630 off advanced honing is 700k raw gold if u include orehas per char

5 alts that’s 3.5mil gold

[gilded forge]

thats gonna take like

17 weeks or smth of full 18 raids optimal done and maybe some akkan4c4 brel 2c6

[faint grove]

i'd be surprised if you'd have even close to enough bound leaps to get there aswell

[tulip charm]

not on main, so i can't hone that anymore, weapon is at +7, but all alts had 5k + bound leaps when echida came out

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1253088861740073072.gif?size=100&quality=lossless

[supple parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147690470185648198.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

Zheng when he don’t hone for 12 hrs ^

[bitter lichen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147690470185648198.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147690470185648198.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[tulip charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147690470185648198.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[supple parrot]

[bitter lichen]

fk off

[gilded forge]

anyone got recommendation to replace Shadowhunter on my roster

can be any class

just not boring

[supple parrot]

Wardancer

[ancient tundra]

Wardancer

Ye

[bitter lichen]

dont listen to them

bozos

Souleater

[tulip charm]

berserker, can do anything

[gilded forge]

dont think im doing zerk for sure

[ancient tundra]

Shut soul eater bozo

[gilded forge]

already have se

[tulip charm]

or destroyer, can build all purple/gold acc for 5k gold

[bitter lichen]

[tulip charm]

its truth

[supple parrot]

Imagine recommending f tier class to ppl

[faint grove]

more like g tier for gatekept

[ancient tundra]

B tier for braindead

[bitter lichen]

[gilded forge]

I mean

Bonk sounds fun

wd sounds fun

[faint grove]

bonk aint fun

[cedar zealot]

Don't, zerk is mid

[gilded forge]

this is my roster (+ Arcana, GS, Souleater, Soulfist)

[ancient tundra]

You sure love the name soar

[tulip charm]

also every pt want a destroyer so your never gatekept, and for some odd reason the class dosn't have a bad reputation like arti, decently strong class too

[stark thicket]

Block me then and I will

[tulip charm]

i never hear people say bad things about destroyer except destroyer players themselves lol

[stark thicket]

[faint grove]

because bonker has good utility yeah

[ancient tundra]

I love destroyer in g2 thaemine

[gilded forge]

I was thinking possible Bard angle

[faint grove]

and everyone can spot the dumbass arti sitting in his stupid wheelchair refusing to leave it at the cost of the rest of the raid

[gilded forge]

if it's better than artist, maybe I put bard in top6

[ancient tundra]

No

Don t

Legit don t

[buoyant wagon]

say that once again for chuan

[stark thicket]

Block me

[gilded forge]

y not

[tulip charm]

[ancient tundra]

Artist is chill compared to bard

Bard

Is

Well

[faint grove]

bard is pretty chill once you know it

[supple parrot]

I mean I know zerker is mid

[gilded forge]

im not rly a chill player soo

sounds like a no diff to me

i main probably the least chill class in the game

[faint grove]

db?

[gilded forge]

arcana

[stark thicket]

[ancient tundra]

Which engraving

[gilded forge]

both

[faint grove]

i mean best dds on paper currently are surge db, igniter sorc, something breaker and something souleater

[tulip charm]

db is too inconsistent
arcana you need a phd to play it
gs is good on the latest raids, but too damn squishy

[buoyant wagon]

gs

good

[faint grove]

gs good

[supple parrot]

I mean Zheng thinks zerker is s tier

[buoyant wagon]

put in 150% of the effort to do 70% of the dps of other classes

[faint grove]

you can drop your entire rota with 100% perfection on gs and you still get outdamaged by a braindead broken class that only hits half their skills

[bitter lichen]

is zheng a troll

[buoyant wagon]

dont even say crit synergy

because aero is unironically stronger

[faint grove]

ofc aero is stronger

[buoyant wagon]

despite how it should be logically weaker due to how easy it is to play

[bitter lichen]

weirdo

[tulip charm]

i think its a tier

[faint grove]

aero was stronger than gs before it got a 5% buff followed by a 5% buff followed by a 5% buff followed by a 5% buff followed by a 5% buff

[supple parrot]

Who do u think is stronger. Arti or zerker

[faint grove]

arti has higher ceiling

[wintry depot]

U give me gold for it?

[gilded forge]

my main classes are like

Arcana SE GS Blade

rest classes i dont have much knowledge/playtime on

So anything that is similar to them or has a unique play pattern would probably fit me well

[supple parrot]

So u play all the meta class plus gs

Remove gs. Throw in igniter and wd

[gilded forge]

unironically

Emperor might be top5 class engravings rn

[buoyant wagon]

?

[wintry depot]

most arcanas are dog

[gilded forge]

latest buff is kind of wut were they thinking

[supple parrot]

It is strong. But it depends on groups dps

[gilded forge]

+5% skill damage to all normal skills 😮

[tulip charm]

[buoyant wagon]

5% damage to all skills is whatever lol

[gilded forge]

they make all skills do more damage, and cards amplify the skill damage even more

so thinking it's just 5% is kind of bait

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/oruchuban-ebichu-anime-love-cute-animals-gif-15514890

[gilded forge]

it's 5% * the sum of the value of cards you apply to them

which is variable per run / impossible to calc

but it's more than a 5% buff tl;dr

[supple parrot]

Ppl balancing this game are clearly 1370 doing argos

[gilded forge]

I think you may be right

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/no-brain-loading-slow-gif-16361840

2 early

[faint grove]

thats really not how math works

5% is 5%

[buoyant wagon]

if you look at performance logs

[faint grove]

the multipliers are there regardless

[buoyant wagon]

emperor arcana is not remotely broken

[gilded forge]

idk, i think we all just suck

[faint grove]

no its more that bosses are not trixion dummies

and since they actually move

you can't hit your trixion ceiling that you're dreaming of

[gilded forge]

g3 thaemine is pretty trixion

[supple parrot]

Buff zerker. It’s on the bottom side of every raid

[gleaming pendant]

1540

[faint grove]

zerk is on the upper end of mid

[buoyant wagon]

any raid that is a training dummy benefits entropy even harder

[faint grove]

benefits boundless abuse even harder than entropy

[supple parrot]

It’s literally below mid way point on everything

[buoyant wagon]

or burst classes like igniter

[gilded forge]

yeah if g3 wasn't so good for like blade/breaker

[supple parrot]

If ur talking about the Bible log data

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-isue-gif-16217314748082638781

[faint grove]

that's because zerk attracts the most dogshit players imagineable imo

[buoyant wagon]

i didnt want to say that first to avoid being rude off the bat

but since the green name said it first

[supple parrot]

Meanwhile I’m out dpsing igniters and dbs in g4 thaemine

[buoyant wagon]

1540 is a pretty bad metric for grasping how class performance is like at the endgame

[faint grove]

somewhat true since elixirs gave spec classes a lot with all the free crit

[gilded forge]

idk why but

[gleaming pendant]

YOU ARE THAT GOOD, CHUAN

[supple parrot]

Anything below 1620 is irrelevant

[gleaming pendant]

god of NAE

[supple parrot]

[gleaming pendant]

[gilded forge]

it just feels like both arcana specs don't get that much damage increase from 40set critical

is the crit damage calc'd alongside the skill tripod selfbuff ?

like diminished return from tripod selfbuff ?

[faint grove]

the crit dmg is a 12% multiplier

[supple parrot]

No.

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/n85TX9wr6Ml.gif

[faint grove]

on crits

[supple parrot]

It benefits arcana a lot cuz u have high crit

wtf u talking about

[buoyant wagon]

he doesnt even have an arcana at 1620

[gilded forge]

Seemed to not matter that much to my empress

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/mika-misono-mika-mika-misono-blue-archive-blue-archive-mika-gif-18297487784122490844

[supple parrot]

[gilded forge]

like numbers went up a bit but nothing like how people were hyping 40set up to be

[supple parrot]

I mean it’s literally 10-12% more dmg

[faint grove]

what did you think would happen

[supple parrot]

Depending on ur crit

[faint grove]

yeah its basically around a 10% dps increase

give or take

[gilded forge]

wait what is 10% of like

[buoyant wagon]

also like 1/3 of the bonuses from elixirs

[gleaming pendant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410234402614935562/1086188510609952778/IMG_1871.gif

[gilded forge]

97mil

[buoyant wagon]

are from secondary lines

[faint grove]

9.7 mill?

[gilded forge]

9.7m increase ye ?

[supple parrot]

There is no way u just asked that

[gilded forge]

i mean maybe i see +10mil damage on rain but

idk i dont think so

[buoyant wagon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872877269973086238/1085863290879623168/cuter_cat_story.gif

[low nebula]

im rich

[supple parrot]

Elixir is a pretty big dps increase

[gleaming pendant]

all the irrelevant typing

https://tenor.com/sc5GLxGoVst.gif

[buoyant wagon]

[gilded forge]

i guess it's decent

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/fate-swords-fighting-stay-night-gif-9175555

[gilded forge]

why does 10m just seem small

i see people on YT hitting rains for 200m avg

[supple parrot]

Sup buffs

25 weapon

Transcendence

[gilded forge]

and mine never really goes above 120m average

[supple parrot]

[gilded forge]

80m gap seems kinda

[supple parrot]

Seems normal. A geared end game char would prob double ur dmg

[gilded forge]

my character is almost endgame i think

[faint grove]

[supple parrot]

U got 25 weapon? Full trans? Full 10 gems? 6.2 demon dmg? Los30? 9/7 stone? 100 quality?

Advanced honing 20 on weapon?

[gilded forge]

my arcana atm is 1629 40set lv10 on main damage 2% demon DD30 87qual weapon

[supple parrot]

So no

[gilded forge]

I mean it's not that far off, ye ?

[supple parrot]

It is very far off

[gilded forge]

do you think those two are really like 80m per skill cast off ?

[supple parrot]

What’s ur weapon at

[gilded forge]

1635 atm, 1645 when reset happens

[faint grove]

2% demon

[gilded forge]

yeah my cards are depressing

[supple parrot]

I mean just off cards and transcendence ur missing like 30%+ dmg

[gilded forge]

all good though, i'm newer to the game and other people worked harder for longer to get it completed

[supple parrot]

A lot of multiplier

[gilded forge]

every supp uses fkin LWC too so i don't even get the +1.5% i used to get

[supple parrot]

Added together

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-rapper-raper-angry-anger-gif-17002797

[supple parrot]

Ur missing a lot

[gilded forge]

but once I get LoS30, then I get +3.5% holy, yea ?

[still lintel]

@ancient tundra https://fxtwitter.com/Celadon_VA/status/1807881809994436820

[low nebula]

ded game

[gilded forge]

u don't even have an e-sex category

surprising

[low nebula]

its one of the notables

[gilded forge]

[low nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1128307198171291751/1203881705136594974/PeepoCaughtEchidna.gif

[gilded forge]

Is legy skin set even worth getting

[low nebula]

stat wise, one of a cheapest upgrades isnt it?

[gilded forge]

+1% per piece over normal epic skins seems insignificant

[nova hazel]

how hard is it to get a 5/5 elixir btw

[gilded forge]

I've cut like maybe 20-25 elixirs and have gotten 1

[still lintel]

depends what your luck is

[gilded forge]

I think I was lucky to get mine

so if that's any measurement, it's pretty unlikely

[low nebula]

rng, you can do everything right and get nothing
ive cut 40 got none (not including resets)
but had like 10 close calls in it

[ancient tundra]

Rip table

[nova hazel]

hmmm yea i got one 5/5 and one 5/4 in 30 i think

[low nebula]

i got one 5/4

[nova hazel]

decent 5/5 ig maybe

[low nebula]

NICE

best one isnt it?

[gilded forge]

wut is fierce strength

[low nebula]

or really close to be best

[nova hazel]

i think so

[vagrant cradle]

[low nebula]

idk what is fierce strenght btw

[wintry depot]

Unlucky its a shit set

[low nebula]

its low life?

[gilded forge]

my 5/5 is Max HP & Dexterity

[low nebula]

rip

[gilded forge]

would have rathered 5 Atk.Power & Dex/Weapon power, but i guess HP is good for progging new content

[nova hazel]

yea under 50% hp is incoming dmg -6%, outgoing + 3%, above 50 is -4% dmg and 4% damage

[vagrant cradle]

[wintry depot]

So shit

[nova hazel]

my 5/4 isnt any better

[wintry depot]

Why did you even cut this

[nova hazel]

i was bored

[wintry depot]

So u cut a 5/5 of a shit set?

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-gif-19042108

[wintry depot]

Thats next level of boredom

[gilded forge]

Is Crit Damage pants same as the set bonus? Multiplicative, not added to the self-buff tripods I have ?

[low nebula]

I got shit set as well, cos my reset attempt landed good

[nova hazel]

no need to shit on it so hard chill

[low nebula]

so now im using suboptimal elixir set to get around of gatekeepin 😄

[wintry depot]

I would gatekeep this xD

Literally a waste

[low nebula]

you wouldnt know to check

[nova hazel]

are u the type of person who would gatekeep a 1580 from brel hard 1-3 as well

[blissful rose]

si

[gilded forge]

yes

[faint grove]

if its a 1600+ party then probably

[bitter lichen]

stinky balls

[wintry depot]

Actually no, i took multiple 1550

[nova hazel]

yea ah well whatever. you can do what you want to do with your elixirs and ill do what i want to do

[wintry depot]

Its brel who cares

As long as they dont troll i can carry

[nova hazel]

but noted for future its a bad set

[blissful rose]

[wintry depot]

But wasting money on a shit set, yeah... xD

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-blowing-bubbles-gif-27203196

[tulip charm]

gratz

[stark thicket]

My kitten so far, why TF he sleeping stating in my direction and snoring

And Teemo over here on his back circling his paws and snoring 2

[gilded forge]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/aZe_FmpAhzwDSnnuF789rbsaboNF_9Xzxxon65pzWGA/https/media.tenor.com/6mwUjfbXhGkAAAPo/pig-girl.mp4

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocked-shocked-cat-shocked-meme-shocked-face-gif-6329997493175349435

[stark thicket]

Are they reenacting that gif

[gilded forge]

i think so

[stark thicket]

I can't sleep when these kittens decide to randomly nibble on my toe

[bitter lichen]

[gilded forge]

spawncamped my chaos reset to do all of yesterday's chaos + todays

went from 300k silver, soon to be 4mil+

[vagrant cradle]

[final gale]

Yo how much does transendence cost and how important is it

next reset i push x3 1630s and have 0 transendence on them (paladins)

i only have like 400~ darkfires on each of em

am i cooked?

[gilded forge]

I think you'll be able to unlock the transcendence of ones that matter the most

pretty sure max is like 600 or 700 or smth

[final gale]

mk

crap i gotta do 1-3 hm as well no?

Surely I dont get gatekept

I'm a full 10s pala anyways

[gilded forge]

hahaha

[final gale]

i just join reclear

ez

[gilded forge]

im not sure if support transcendence is huge or not

but I'd imagine it is

[wintry depot]

It is

Some people say its even better than elixirs

[gilded forge]

and if it's anything like DPS transcendence, where it's ~+20% damage, then good luck getting into any lobby that wants to play being ~ -20% damage to everyone on the party

[kind oriole]

Someone gonna will buy bus

[gilded forge]

seems like supps get shafted even harder by gatekeeping of not having transcendence than dps ?

[vagrant cradle]

[gilded forge]

or is it roughly same since less supps around

[wintry depot]

Should be roughly the same

1620 supps getting advanced honing so there shouldnt be a supp shortage in thaemine hm soon

I dont even know if there is one rn

[gilded forge]

good shout

who is ready for Behemoth

we will experience player shortage in general lmao

[wintry depot]

I dont think so

We get behemoth in t4

[gilded forge]

oh true

[wintry depot]

Every 1620 will be 1640 xD

[gilded forge]

there will be a lot more ppl there

[wintry depot]

People wont have transcendence tho

[gilded forge]

yeah thats good, pretty sure if they didn't do it like that then western version would literally just die at behemoth

[wintry depot]

Yep

[kind oriole]

And then sups will join only juicy lobbies

[gilded forge]

so few 1640s on west version, there'd be like 60 players doing behemoth for the first couple months XDD

[visual grove]

juicy

[kind oriole]

Next reset gonna advance my weapon and finally gonna hit 1640

[buoyant wagon]

zeals had a decent video on it

basically, all the upjumped 1640s are going to be screwed for behemoth due to bad elixirs and no transcendence

lack of dps making the raid a pain in the ass, as well as gatekeep

since behemoth is balanced around people who did t3 honing to 1640 as well as finished elixirs/transcendence

[gilded forge]

thats assuming they dont nerf behemoth on release ig

[gleaming pendant]

and they are also lvl 7 gems with event gems

[kind oriole]

Maybe with level 70 and 14lvl skills they will do more dmg

[buoyant wagon]

that too

people likely sold all their alts' gems

[gleaming pendant]

not like we are gonna let those monsters into our PF

[tulip charm]

a magical idea, if your 1640 without trans/elixirs, go get that sht first instead of queueing for behemoth

[supple parrot]

i mean ppl have 40 elixir alrdy on 1620s, u jump to 1640, do hm thaemine once and get 20 trans on chest

[kind oriole]

And then people say why im being a gatekeeped

[buoyant wagon]

can't relate, will be 1670 on behemoth release

[kind oriole]

[buoyant wagon]

[gilded forge]

how is DPS transcendence distribution?

[gleaming pendant]

not even 1715?

fking loser

[buoyant wagon]

oh right t4

1700 then

[gilded forge]

like 10% comes from chest ?

[buoyant wagon]

without any honing

assuming its easy to get all 6 pieces

[supple parrot]

[gleaming pendant]

where your esther 10

?

[wintry depot]

Its max 6 days to get them

[buoyant wagon]

esther 10 is in gachas

and new car next year or the year after

[sacred sierra]

It's gon be punika all over again

[gleaming pendant]

esther 10 > c6 changli

[wintry depot]

Na

Because u can choose a piece daily

And do the dungeon 3 times per day

So max 6 days if youre unlucky

[kind oriole]

1690 max with relic will be at start

[sacred sierra]

You get random pieces aswell?

[kind oriole]

Yes, but always guaranteded box for part choice after clear

[still lintel]

5k currency for ult bunny

[vagrant cradle]

1710

[final gale]

Breh maybe i stay doing 4c thse lmao

[supple parrot]

Don’t need a new car if u stay home and play lost ark

[final gale]

Im the busser usually

[supple parrot]

[vagrant cradle]

[bitter lichen]

[kind oriole]

Why need a car when u have your own personal driver with new car

[gilded forge]

why have I done like

14 chaos

0 fate ember so far

[tulip charm]

sounds normal, i get like 1 ember every 30 rested chaos

[gilded forge]

so bad

[wintry depot]

He got 3 sidereal energies

Cant complain

[tulip charm]

okay, i lied, i actuually get like 2 embers every 30 rested chaos, thats fact, usually silver/card exp

[supple parrot]

Zheng has 9/7 on almost every char

3 Esther drops

[urban obsidian]

zheng also literally cut a 10/6 yesterday

[gilded forge]

im not running rested so i guess it's lower odds for fate ember

i have to run them unrested lately just for silver to advance hone

[supple parrot]

Unrested

[burnt tree]

Zheng literally gonna complain thats still not good enough within the week

[gilded forge]

does ne1 know if bonus vs. beasts applies to Lumerus in trixion ?

[vagrant cradle]

[tulip charm]

actually don't know

[burnt tree]

[gilded forge]

I know people have been including that stat in trixion parse lately, not sure if it's confirmed useful or if it's just listed in case it might be applying

[supple parrot]

Yes I think so

I mean trixion dmg is pointless

[wintry depot]

Yes it counts

[supple parrot]

Ur average dps in latest raids is much more relevant

[tulip charm]

just realized, echida is demon, but maybe the 2 snakes in basement considered beast also

[gilded forge]

you can say it's pointless but its still useful to test relative damage numbers

[vagrant cradle]

[wintry depot]

Someone sent this to me

[buoyant wagon]

nobody cares about trixion in our version

[gilded forge]

if i'm somewhat equally geared as someone else and my skills are hitting for 10m less, why

[buoyant wagon]

when meter exists

trixion only matters in versions that have no meter

and even then they just use our data

[burnt tree]

updated list but has deleted gates

[supple parrot]

There is no point. Just look at ur gear trixion dps is just 1 to 1 what ur gear is

[burnt tree]

make it make sense

also "updated list" but theres no echidna

[urban obsidian]

bro

[burnt tree]

reddit is pogcrazy

[urban obsidian]

BUNNY IS SO

HOLYY

[tulip charm]

[burnt tree]

oh

[vagrant cradle]

[burnt tree]

i keep forgetting their names

[wintry depot]

Yeah idk the list is weird

[burnt tree]

but then again i dont make weird posts on class channels so

[burnt tree]

the formating bothers me

idk why tho

but its w/e i do my daily chaos and play ff14, frick loa

[buoyant wagon]

how's your impression of dawntrail so far

[gilded forge]

yeah but also if u are same / similar gear as someone else and they are outperforming you in a setting where you can manually adjust your character to be the same as theirs, you can figure out why their performance is better etc. and see if it's possible to translate that to real raid

[buoyant wagon]

seems like msq has been somewhat poorly received

[burnt tree]

its great, ppl are just stupid

its a start of a new arc

[buoyant wagon]

it's really fucking slow at the start though before 93 imo

[burnt tree]

idk why ppl expected another universal threat

[gilded forge]

it's not fully pointless, there are plenty of people who are pretty good at the game who use it as a tool to practice/test things

[buoyant wagon]

literally 5 hours of fetch quests

[burnt tree]

its the same as shadowbrings

theres a

part where u pick which zone u wanna go first

[buoyant wagon]

i give SHB some slack because it's 2 expansions ago

[burnt tree]

the pacing there is trash

[buoyant wagon]

they honestly should change things up a bit

[burnt tree]

but past that i generally had no issue

[buoyant wagon]

yeah the split paths is

[visual smelt]

what's this? for science

[gleaming pendant]

SHADOWBANGERS

[buoyant wagon]

?????

[tulip charm]

so far all the screenshots people posted here have been fully covered or everyone is wearing full platemail, what kind of game is this

[burnt tree]

ppl expected some weird ass creature that can erase the universe

[buoyant wagon]

i dont like wuk lamak as a character either

but i guess she improves somewhat

[bitter lichen]

hentai game

[buoyant wagon]

i do like the worldbuilding though

the king is a gigachad

[burnt tree]

she improved so idm her much

i havent finished the story but im in the final/hidden zone atm

[buoyant wagon]

im still around lvl 94 msq

been too slow early on for me to really binge like i did endwalker

where i played 20 hours straight to finish msq in one day

[kindred ravine]

hehe

[gilded forge]

i tried to get into ffxiv until i realized I was ~100 hours of story content away from playing the game

[burnt tree]

but yeah ppl expected some weird ass shit when the story is all about the setup for future stuff

[buoyant wagon]

low stakes story is unsurprisingly boring to lots of people

[burnt tree]

its not low stakes at all

[buoyant wagon]

honestly i think it would have been better of wuk lamak was better written

[burnt tree]

thats all im gonna say

[buoyant wagon]

i mean, part of the problem that ff14 has always had is

"trust me bro, it gets better after 12482418214 hours"

[burnt tree]

but since the antagonists arent fighting a creature

that can freeze the universe forever

its "ffover"

[buoyant wagon]

a lot of people won't accept that they have to slog through dozens of hours to get to the good part

[burnt tree]

i mean dawntrail was good for me the entire time, minus the zone with the birds

[gilded forge]

thats what everyone who wanted me to try it said

[tulip charm]

isn't this a good thing? ff is known for this i thought, full character immersion

[burnt tree]

and the festival

[buoyant wagon]

pre 93 is

[kindred ravine]

almost like they're playing a series that's heavy on story details

[burnt tree]

just didnt like the map it made msq a pain

[kindred ravine]

[buoyant wagon]

actual fucking aids

felt like a regression to ARR

[burnt tree]

plus ff14 players since shadowbringers have been eatting grass

or something idk what happend xdd

[buoyant wagon]

after the alpacas the story improved noticeably

[burnt tree]

but yeah theres a lot of world building and some nice hints from emet selchs last words

Erenville is fkin great too

[buoyant wagon]

i think dawntrail will be carried more by post msq/patch content

[gilded forge]

Idk, i never really liked character immersive games or games where you are supposed to feel like the character you are playing is you

[buoyant wagon]

kind of like stormblood

[zealous lintel]

can you customize your character?

[buoyant wagon]

oh yeah erenville is great

[burnt tree]

i think dawntrail is fine and ppl are just stupid

well post lvl 93 anyway

[bitter lichen]

i played ffxiv for the erp

[buoyant wagon]

i do think the storywriting is noticeably weaker

[bitter lichen]

[buoyant wagon]

but it's not like bad

[midnight marlin]

not much

just skins

[buoyant wagon]

it's more like above average compared to great in the last 2 expansions

SHB set the bar too high

Endwalker held up reasonably well

[zealous lintel]

are those skins any good?

[bitter lichen]

[zealous lintel]

[buoyant wagon]

ishikawa apparently didnt write dawntrail

which i guess in hindsight seems clear

[urban obsidian]

[burnt tree]

shb and endwalker were the endings of a 10 year story

they had a lot of setup and pre-established world building

[zealous lintel]

fully covered...

[gleaming pendant]

is it good?

[urban obsidian]

the big boss fight things are fun

[buoyant wagon]

also

get the twins the fuck out of the story for once

[burnt tree]

they didnt do much on this one so it didnt bother me tbh

[burnt tree]

well on the later part of the story anyway

[urban obsidian]

for the small price of 60 usd

you get that

[burnt tree]

but its funny cause like

[buoyant wagon]

[burnt tree]

the stakes got so high

[urban obsidian]

my bad 55 not 60

[burnt tree]

the scions re-emerged from their "officially disbanded"

[zealous lintel]

now we are talking

[buoyant wagon]

i think a common gripe is

[gilded forge]

did anyone know that if you enter Z on breaker as u pick up Betrayal set ethers, u literally just spam refill ur Z meter ?

[buoyant wagon]

it's rather narratively weak you decide to support some random, unqualified princess on her bid to become the ruler

[gilded forge]

is that intended or bug ?

[midnight marlin]

intended

[buoyant wagon]

granted it's tied to exploring the golden city

[burnt tree]

granted all of them are unqualified

[midnight marlin]

betrayal refills specialty meter when you get 1 of each ether

[gilded forge]

is that replicatable on every class ?

[midnight marlin]

it is

[burnt tree]

the more u play the more u notice it

[gilded forge]

crazy

[midnight marlin]

its not reliable

[buoyant wagon]

and the "friendship triumphs everything" is getting very overdone

well yeah it's obvious they are all unqualified in some way

[urban obsidian]

im spending my first paycheck on ultimate bunny

no CAP

[buoyant wagon]

even the dad says it

[midnight marlin]

where trackers

[burnt tree]

tbh the problem is

[urban obsidian]

ultimate bunny >>.

[burnt tree]

they keep mentioning the whole friendship thing when its obvious bonds are forming

[buoyant wagon]

and the cop-out is, he doesnt step down if he doesnt like what he sees at the end

yeah they keep shoving that shit in your face

[burnt tree]

yeah like i dont mind it

but its obvious enough

without putting it in the dialogue

[buoyant wagon]

i think it's getting extremely overdone

like my headcanon is the claimants do some form of joint rule after reflections on their shortcomings

[bitter lichen]

bruh that game shop looks horrendous ngl

[burnt tree]

the reaper artifact is

[buoyant wagon]

instead of some one unqualified candidate making it through because "muh friendship and peace"

[kindred ravine]

apparently a lot of people bought currency for it to never appear on their accs

you'd imagine nexon to make a working cashshop

[burnt tree]

the rite of succession ends at the lvl 95 quest series

[stark thicket]

Like you

[gleaming pendant]

SHADOWBANGERS

endshitters

[kindred ravine]

u r a shadowbanger

[gleaming pendant]

dawnlosers

[buoyant wagon]

yeah i heard it ends early

[burnt tree]

yep halfway through

[gleaming pendant]

does pictomancer use sunsketch

[kindred ravine]

i love how all the reviews for the game are like 10 or 30 minutes played

[bitter lichen]

im sure theyll be reimbursed

[bitter lichen]

Fk off

[kindred ravine]

chuankoko is just jealous he's not pretty

[urban obsidian]

izunia

[bitter lichen]

prolly fat an stinky and shit himself 1 to many times

[urban obsidian]

are you playing fierst descendent

[kindred ravine]

hmmm idk. i played the beta and have friends who are playing it. i might try it again but if people really say the game is piss easy idk how much fun there will be

also

oh wtf the game is surprisingly small too

then look and hear that ZZZ is 56gb

[thorn sluice]

#rng-luck-fails message
@queen grail again betch?

[stark thicket]

You know what to do. Do it, you won't.

[stark thicket]

That's you and your whole family.

Told you, block me you ape.

[tulip charm]

embergod

[kindred ravine]

Why are you apes beefing

[keen copper]

games free

[bitter lichen]

im trolling him but hes taking it to heart i think

[swift tree]

Sounds about as narratively strong as working to overthrow your older sibling as King because they've basically become a Tyrant, then turns out they're acting that way to build up an army to fight coming darkness.

[bitter lichen]

but its funny seeing his reaction

[swift tree]

l3m0n, you're now banned from every chippy in Australia.

[bitter lichen]

[swift tree]

Don't care if they make fish or kebabs, you're now banned

[zealous lintel]

TBH. i could never bring myself to play the whole story in FF. Kinda boring if you ask me. I like to get bits and pieces myself instead getting it shoved into my face. Funny enough, one of the reasons i like the story of LOA

[swift tree]

And the exact reason why many people prefer FF's.

Also funny af that the story of LOA is delivered better via english translation (source: Wineblue, Saintone and other KR community members).

Not VA, but the translations and phrasing

[zealous lintel]

Yeah, pretty much. To me environmental story telling is superior to a straight line

[swift tree]

(name change bs aside)

[swift tree]

You pickup on the one in Vesper/Kurzan yet?

[zealous lintel]

So far not, i had to shift + g cause my static wanted to run on wednesday

no time to play it slowley yet but will do with my summoner

[swift tree]

The giant ruins there has the same columns and pillars as the ruins around Oreha in Punika

And the layout on the map

[zealous lintel]

i will pay attention when going in the second time. Thx for the heads up

[swift tree]

All good, won't spoil it, just a heads up

[kindred ravine]

DO IT. SPOIL IT

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[swift tree]

I mean, I can but it's up to Myeura.

[zealous lintel]

Since we didnt clear echidna g2 hm yet, is there another hidden cutscene? Cause when clearing normal mode, she actually sounds like joinging forces? or at least the dialogue hints at it?

[swift tree]

Story cutscene just needs nm

[zealous lintel]

eh whatever. i will take my time even if you spoil it

[swift tree]

We'll be getting the story in July with RU

[kindred ravine]

just spoiler tag it for those who would like to read

and if mye doesn't want it then can't read it

[swift tree]

||The game has been hinting at Antares being an important/hidden figure that's been hiding in plain sight. They're the god that was banished/destroyed when the Haals attempted to overthrow Regulus. Their war is the reason why a 'Lost Ark' even exists, are why the Sylvains had their memory wiped and why the Lazeniths are locked in Elgacia. Antares' symbol is denoted by a wheel of light / spokes that has appeared at several locations in the game so far. When we finally visit the homeland of the Haals in Kurzan, one of their largest ruins is built to resemble the wheel of Antares.||

[kindred ravine]

wtf spoilers

i thought that was about something else

barachan fuck you

[zealous lintel]

lololololol

[swift tree]

@kindred ravine 🖕

[kindred ravine]

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-good-job-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-anime-gif-12053039777437670320

[swift tree]

Didn't notice until a recent replay that it's even on the plinth in the temple.

[burnt tree]

it weirded me out day 1

cause it looked intentional xdd

[swift tree]

I mean it kinda is

[burnt tree]

ngl thought there would be a world boss in that area

but it was just a mere chaos gate

[swift tree]

I mean it's where their Ark was held at some point 100%

[burnt tree]

;robs

probs**

[livid eagle]

will we get discount honing up to 1610 or 1620 later in july update ?

[carmine maple]

congrats, what's next?

[still lintel]

horrible things

[bitter lichen]

[faint grove]

prolly another progression event at best

[lime dove]

[kindred ravine]

MMMM WATERMELON IS DELICIOUS

[carmine maple]

it's called "sweet water"

[lime dove]

[burnt tree]

57 gigs at launch Mi cant compress for shit for the 45h time Hoyo

[kindred ravine]

meanwhile this game is 36g at launch

[burnt tree]

Mihoyo cant compress their files for shit

[kindred ravine]

idk why people are hyping it up so hard

it literally just looks like a reskinned hi3

[bitter lichen]

its a furry game

[burnt tree]

ZZZ? only cause of the Mihoyo tab

[bitter lichen]

[burnt tree]

if it wasnt Mihoyo none would talk about it

[tardy tusk]

false

would said "Next genshin killer"

average yt video

[burnt tree]

damn

[tardy tusk]

Holyshit.

[kindred ravine]

damn nice lmao

[tardy tusk]

Just saw it on twitter

holy fuck