#lost-ark-discussions
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@dawn yacht
maybe just the tutorial zone was ass. or it did default to low setting or something. because other than that the game does look good from wha ti've seen
Looks like shortsword musa
:3

(I haven't played in 5 years so talking out of ass).


You must be gooning, waiting for the S3 Yoz stuff if that's your type lol
i mean would
(All the Assassins S3 stuff is like that)
You know me well.
they saw lost ark and said "we gotta do it too"
ah damn i'm 4.9%
Oh no, they have coomer skin since launch
Ok tbh, I'm 5% on all the important ones
all 4.5+ tho
i bought the see-though skin

from bdo 
Meanwhile see-through skin is the warrior one for LOA 

xdd

Pearl abyss based
idk why they make 1 chat option scenario's in these gacha games
is lootmapper bugged?
just make my people talk
where's the Legion Cmdr. title from again?
i think it shows you chests that would be at the end of a trial sometimes, or it's showing you underground stuff
why?
i used it
and work fine for me

you gonna try hardcore server ?
suppost to be one infront of me 
idk
That permadeath BDO server?
they making a hardcore server in bdo? is it the same concept as WoWs?
what class
and everyone on interactive map saying its a tidal one 
if you die you go to prison where you can 1vs1 for rest points to be free or just afk for points
did you try seeing if it was one of the underground chests?
underground
Get dn

TY
aero
Imma make enchiladas today
Lol wtf
can i turn off me having to click like 4 times for a chest on the interactive map? @still lintel
Do you come along with the sauce ?

wat?
Like how I click it, mark found, then have to click off of it. Instead of just tapping it then moving to the next
@ancient tundra 
Idk if there’s a setting on there to change it
you click it then click found and you done
its only 2 clicks 
you said you clicking 4 times tho
lisan al gaib
It’s pretty much 3 though tbh. They changed it a month or two ago it used to be 1 click and done for a chest. Idk if there’s options to change it back
Unless clicking the next thing makes the previous one close
clicking mark as found closes it
Mine doesn’t though? It just gives the option to mark it unfound after
Could be browser differences
feels like there's bugs in my throat
allergic to anything?
You perhaps tweaking on meth?
probably just has bugs in his throat
Come on give me jinhsi! COME ON 
got her in 10 pulls 
Nice
almost also got her in 10 pulls but lost 5050
I lost 5050 but atleast a copy of calcharo
My alt account got jinshi and her weapon

At least I don't feel like I need to get her on main acc, I will save for changli now

just do the ascension quest?
That's why I stopped doing chest for now
Will wait

just do now and just check of whenever new pop up 
Rmt
wish i could keybind team switching 
Lol wtf
RMT in wuwa 
Hi satho
Get neck snapped

They’re NOT beating the ERP mmo allegations with this one 😭
nah
they have been leaning towards more "modern" stuff recently
but they gotta reach the lost ark levels

They're definitely beating something and they should probably wash it
yes
me eating the bees that spawned in my teeth
Me eating food other than just chicken and rice.
sleeping because no food
wtf are we even getting on 1.2
idk
leaks?
Bed Ishy
gg
rip
And you guys say AGS don't do this game justice, smh.
dead patch
“We’ve heard you hated the name Ladon so we changed it to Echidna. As petty revenge we will refuse to fix the next 3 months of translation issues, including also changing the name of the other boss from the same raid lol.”
This is one of my favourite games of all time.
Yuck 

Wonder what's rarer at this point, a Thaemine Leaderboard title or the Travel Writer one
this + something more
need more of these wuwa gifs 
yh but like the vrchat looking ones 
RATE MY SKIN
jfc i hate having to back out of every menu on this game
instead of just one esc press
omniman in a different universe

RMT
Time to start buying 100 quality accessories but with useless engravings
i just save the 100 qual ones i drop
GOLLY GYAT GEE SKIBID RIZZ IN OHIO NO FANUM TAX ON A CAP 3 CHESTS
how many red orehas tho
Dont spend em all in one place
ty froge
do appreciate some gold
I'm at 750k but I have like 230k in gold bars
Spend before you hit it
theres like 500k+ right here
stonks
Why tho
free engraving support on all t3 chars when t4 comes
and you telling me you are going to sell your correct accessories for 5x3+1 for a 5x3 build
And be more el cheapo

Don’t think so
If you're a support main, 5x3+1 is kinda useless
that transition wont happen for a while though
Whats the best collectible to sell in Elgacia?
unless you're a whale
Imagine removing the +1 just for sell your shitty accessories for 20k gold each
What a elcheapos
I mean I'm already saving for grudge
You'll be 6x3 instantly, you just won't be 6x4 instantly
Don’t complain about gatekeeping
hopefully grudge won't be 1m gold


Legendary Engraving looks to be the same power level as our current x3
Grudge being ~21% then you get 24% with relic
for reference
what even is the best mostly achievable stone?
if you have +12 for the required engravings, that's the same as 6x3 under new stuff
7/7..?
that's ~~ for
it's like 1.5-3% depending
depends on the engraving too
uh pretty sure grudge is only 18% with legendary books, and 21% with relic

in t4
the picture they showed for some reason was missing blue books
but if you can provide the picture i would like it
nvm
you're right it's 18%, but that's still closer to 20% than 24% is.
6 grudge on a stone gave 3% bonus
yeah i just want more info on t4 already
time has been so slow since t4 was announced

next week
6% damage on Grudge but 0% on cards.

You know you'll see it
If the values for Adrenaline make live version, it will force everyone to reroll ADR stones
there wa a reddit post talking about the new math 😦
koreans crie about their 9/7 stones
na there's no chance im blowing gold just for like 0.75% more damage or w/e it is for a new 7/7
If Adrenaline 10 is less than 1% that is a major troll
so grudge/adrenaline stones are to the moon?
no lol
but its more now
na that means per stack
updated dev letter
It's worth more to max, but it is no longer mandatory to meet the bare minimum of raiding
You won't need a 7/7 to get a foot in Brelshaza etc.
so adrenaline gives 0.8% atk per stack with just books, and up to 0.8% additional atk per stack with a 10 stone
adrenaline is terrible on rocks currently unless other engravings are ass also
6/6 is and that's only a bonus on top of engravings
extra attack per stack is 
but there's no way im cutting a new stone yet when there will be many other things to min-max on

if you go all the way to 10/10(which is bonkers i know) its 6%
You don't need it to balance pips to +15 anymore which is the benefit.
9/7 adrenaline rocks may unironically be weaker than some 9/6
Not having a 7/7 won't mean not having Grudge at all
Possibly to get some of the KR players to reroll new stones.
@ancient tundra @tardy tusk
Since Adrenaline stone has been meta for years there.
time for them to send trucks to SG office
yeah i know but people who take their main progression at least a bit more serious would want to cut at least a 9/7
what do you mean by pips?
aaah
you won't need to stack 15 of these anymore, you just HAVE the engraving
yeah, thats right
9/7 odds are shit enough that they really shouldn't have touched the system in such a way that made their rocks worse
lmao no
probably want income from pheons and stone rerolls
fuck axel
Everyone is running axel again
sir this is KR, land of the rmt
they cried about their stones being invalidated
you think the vast majority of people cutting millions of gold in rocks is f4ing it?

no, but y'know.
twin shadows
oh we're both twin shadow
i mean the rock changes probably piss off a lot more people than they make happy currently
i think the first change was fine
not inconceivable things get changed up again
+2 was always the min max
with twin shadow
not needing rock to fill out engravings is fine
having the 9/7 option only giving you 1,5% was also min max
I'm looking to swap at ark passive
now you have a bigger jump
ishy swap to yearning db
or raising the ceiling where a 9/7 isn't BiS anymore when higher rocks are pretty much impossible
market literally can't support 1 person tryna cut a 9/9 or something 
9/7 on average is several million gold, anything better than 9/7 is literally tens of millions of gold on average if not hundreds
i think raising the ceiling is fine for people with 9/9s and such
i would be fine with that as well. give 10/10 and 9/9 extra
just treat it like esther weapons
yes
it's a ceiling that's not functionally obtainable
except in the case of rocks its rng
not money

120 quality got walked back

there's still hope that rocks get changed again
dunno. community got rabid about their "worthless" 9/7 stones
i mean if you care about an adren stone being suboptimal you would care about 9/9 10/10
"We will prepare it again so that it can be added to the Cazeros Raid Act 2, which will be updated in September."

9/9 is literally running into the cost of hundreds of millions
On average with no pity
thats my point, it has a raised ceiling thats kinda unobtainable
Adding new Bracelets with Brelshaza, Deja Vu indeed
which is just shitty
You have functionally unobtainable ceilings in other games
it’s just there to reward the 1 or 2 people that are lucksacks
i hope they just let us upgrade them
Which imo is fine
tbh.
you can
They won the lottery, give them their reward
just feels shitty cause you can't min max anymore 
lol virtually nobody has an actually fully capped min max character anyways
You can probably count the number of players in all regions combined on one or two hands
Wrong our resident casual player, Deathboi, casually minmaxed his acc
yes, but the point is you can try to because with enough effort/money its reasonable to do
He’s a god gamer
Who are fully capped, Esther 8, perfect elixirs, 5 liner high stat bracelet, etc
a 10/10 you can't even try for
easy boss
Any of you try the crownless simulation yet?
like i was trying to cut a 5 liner high stat bracelet because its achievable.
I don’t even think people are mad that 9/9s are better
It’s just that lots of 9/7s “suck” now
True, golden summon and mimic had all the aggro 
9/7 and 7/7 was a pointless area for devs to try to close the gap, not to mention it was closed in a bad way
i mean doesn't really make sense you care adren is a little worse than other options if you didn't care that a 9/9 is a little better
playing with summons 
If it’s not functionally obtainable by me I don’t really care
besides that you may have an adren
If someone happens to win the lottery, they can have their bonus
Why wouldnt i use ingame function? 
its miniscule
im just memeing, i havent even played elden ring 
Probably
Time to get to it then
Ye it’s on sale
"When converting the effects of the existing Tier 3 bracelet, the effects except for the locked effects are always changed to the newly granted effects."
Like gems
considering you need to rehone, get books, recut a bracelet etcetc?
oh yeah and gems
Books are whatever

Rehone tbd
Gems would cost me around $2.5-3k
Which isn’t that bad if spread out over a few months
Plus they last the the entirety of season 3
Bracelet could be a problem
not to mention a lot of systems seem a lot less permanent
just feels like it discourages spending
a lot of things you thought were permanent aren't really anymore
do we already know how - engravings work? Are there still even - engravings?
Gem cost is so absurdly high I’m pretty sure they are permanent for t3
yes
t4?
damn it
Thats the pussy way, ig that work to
not that they aren't permanent for t4, more so how long will t4 last before they just t5 

Not for 2 years at least imo
the potential unknown makes people less willing to spend
Their content release schedule is too slow for yearly shakeups
I wonder if they’ll make anything else into t4 considering they did it with behemoth unless that’s the only thing
before if you were cutting a 97, maxing out quality etc, you thought it was permanent
Yeah in this wonderful genre nothing will be perm it’s just a matter as to when it’ll be changed
The concept of permanent upgrades that will never be changed in a mmo that’s still in live service is absurd
Expecting them to last for a while? Sure that’s logical
Maybe hope for riot mmo the fabled genre renovating creation
Expecting to last for the entire lifespan of the game when it can conceivably stretch to a decade+? Nah
i mean if you have that viewpoint why complain about hard resets
or stones
just imagine you're getting reset and spend more 
Because a hard reset isn’t raising the ceiling while keeping your progress
It’s completely nuking everything
Raising the ceiling is acceptable, resetting your progress isn’t, especially if people paid heavily for it
just dont paid 
i mean its the same shit - one just disguises it more
Is it though?
expecting absolutely nothing from a riot mmo because they have no idea how to make something fun
Imagine if BDO completely wiped everyone’s gear and made them regrind back to 750 gearscore
Compared to raising the ceiling to like 770 gear score
i mean it sounds like you're comparing apples to oranges
actually, kinda.

A hard reset means all your effort is invalidated and doesn’t carry over
you have a tier reset, ceiling is raised on rocks, bracelets, eventually quality, engravings, etcetc. this is very different from a soft reset akin to akkan ancient gear over brel
That’s not the case with the ceiling being raised, because you still have old progress
what the engraving panel looks like after T4
open your eyes, yes they technically avoided a hard reset because they didn't zero you out. what they're doing is still effectively similiar because of the ceiling raises.
so? That's how MMOs work
you wont
This happens in every vertical progression mmo
The ceiling gets raised sooner or later
It's not a full reset, but there's a lot of stuff in place to aid you to reaching a place where you can actually be a part of the "community"
'caught up' is fomo tbh
the difference is honing for example you expect it to get raised. it was unexpected for quality, stones, bracelets etc
stones are kept
not really, this will actually widen the gap
quality is kept
all of that stuff is kept and converts.
bracelets im unsure how will work
people who are caught up just got shit on, and will be closer to a mokoko than ever before
9/9s are a weird hill to die on for stones, and I’m pretty sure it’s not even what most complaints are upset about
depends what you consider caught up
people who just got 1620 are in a fantastic spot
i got 1 1620 and 5 1610s, i cant catch up with t4?
people who just got 1630 got cucked a bit
It’s that balances of engraving bonuses on rocks is wonky
essentially the people who were funneling to do latest content got wrecked
So that many 9/7s basically got “nerfed”
i love my 6 mains
its a weird hill to die on to be upset about .2% dmg vs everything else 
i mean they still get to do latest content for another 3+ months while the 1620 andies have to wait
i'm talking about in t4
not t3
I’m sure very few people are upset that the like 100 people in the game across all regions who have a 9/9 or better get to have some marginal increase
what
Raising the ceiling isn’t so much the issue as shitting on what you currently have
0.2% difference between what
like adren on your rock vs some other engraving
It’s not solely adren either
Grudge is likely by far the best engraving on rock also
Perhaps 9/7 is a weird hill
rip to all those 8/6 and 8/8 users though
like if anything a 97 is closer to a 7/7 now
Because they are truly fucked by the new system
Based on all the stuff you're saying... Have YOU read the T4 information?
wut
he considers t4 a hard reset
which is objectively wrong
its a soft reset that tries to be a hard reset
in every aspect
fails at both
i've said its technically not a hard reset, but effectively similar in many ways
Morning Martin
up so early, its not even 6 pm yet

you're jumping into a conversation with no context and thinking you're making good points 
I've been sitting here reading the rant tyvm and have been posted pics for @zealous lintel as they asked for them.

Either way, t4 is mostly fine to me
what rant, literally having a conversation with serenei and you jump in with irrelevant points
well i was discussing it with bara an serenei
TRue
so he was actually kinda in the whole time xD
we're speaking as spenders who attempt to min max, idgaf if my bracelet technically converts if there are new lines that are better
true endgame tbh

yep
Event shop cards.
Assuming I don’t quit, I’d still probably rebuild my character to more or less the same position as it is now
I just play when i want tbh
down to 7 left
which is my point in how its kinda like a hard reset in many aspects. we need to recut rocks for grudge+something, reroll bracelets, etc.
tbh i kinda liked where we were at, introduce new system and just focus on that
That’s fine, as long as they don’t reset everything
which you'd need to for a hard reset anyways.
the main point is that they could not continue the game without a reset at all.
a reset was going to be needed at some point
If your plan is to min max every game
I'm madge
uh
Every update that changes things up where you are no longer min max
so what you're saying is i'm not wrong in that many regards its similiar to a hard reset 
Can be construed as a hard reset
The new system saves my ass wont recut roll anything will just wait for Zheng to roll and post it for sale it’s a perfect world
That’s just a framing problem
You're wrong in the accusation that Mokokos are further behind and it will be harder.
my man
you have
like 20 days
to farm

If I’m pulling for the best weapons in a gacha
i never said that
And 2 years later those weapons get powercrept
That’s basically a hard reset to me if I want to min max
This new t4 system is the best thing happened to fight rng
i said people who have been working hard to keep up are further behind and it will be harder
I saved for changli now ... I got jinshi and her wep on my second acc 
Somehow that do not happen cuz Chars come with their Signature Weapon, and its BIS
where does it say i'm talking about mokokos being further behind? please read
YGG
OR at least not often.
It happens in Granblue
again, i'm talking about players who have been keeping up
as far i remember granblue chars do not have sig weapon?
They come with a weapon
eg you finally grinded lvl 10 gems you're relatively being reasonably min maxed without going for whale things like a 97
those players get wrecked
Your loadout is putting 10 weapons in a grid
A mix of farmable stuff and gacha
Gacha stuff predictably gets powercrept over the years
players like serenei will just have full 10s in a few weeks, in this scenario you're gonna be sitting on 8s which won't be far from event gems or players grinding for lvl 7s
new card sets you gonna have to grind just like a mokoko, other players just mari to victory
Well yeah ceiling raises always fuck over hardest the people who just barely made it close to the old ceiling
Most whales don’t care if they’ve been allowed to enjoy the old ceiling long enough
yeah like i said, we can just buy our way back
It’s the midcore players who get screwed
This is good let the people who keep the game alive have some advantages
the players below will absolutely be closer to new players than the ceiling for a long time
my god.
depends on how they've been playing tbh. If they've been playing wide, they'll benefit for having a bunch of characters already near-at the breakpoint.
If it's someone "catching up" be funneling all of their materials to 1 character, then they're punished the most.
sure there are degrees, but either way i dont feel like its a step forward to wreck people who have been grinding away. i do think new players need help, but dont feel like this is the right way to balance it
"A game for everyone is a game for no one" etc.
Regardless, the developers miss the point if they think resets are that effective at bridging the gap in this game
The bigger issue has always been the inhospitable raid design for new players
As well as raiding being the only way to progress
Wonder how long it takes them to change Kenuat Fort to be 1600 instead of 1620
Since the MSQ to unlock it will be 1600

acurrated ngl
Still fuckable
New players are just perpetually fucked in this game because of stubborn design
In that respect, T4 just kicks the can down the road for a few months

New players are fucked in every game that is 9+months old unless its FPS
what the fuck
hole is a hole uh?
we got new pet
I outdps'd a 1614 artillerist in hanu, and he wasn't even using barrage q
is that a bbought account or something
Correct
-Dark Sun Ken probly
bet North Kurzan powerpass ends up giving +2 Tier 4 gear eventually.
Sun*
I still waiting for the girl that her boobs are bigger than her head.

fixed it
well ya got me there
this game was never catered towards the midcore players so its fine

anyone have a crafting calculator to check if its worth to craft instead of buying from mari / aunction house
still missing King Thirain?
ah yes
Armen should be on Pleccia merchant imo
you can get 1 armen from rapport
you get him from multiple places, issue is you need 16 in total.
my leg packs slowly piling up
that's the amount i need to finish my los30
gimme some
even still they won't retroactively add new cards 
40k aint that bad tbh
im not sure
BUT I FEEL LIKE
kurzan cards are in old packs
legendary cards should be more tho
I have a whale tag in my friends discord And called rpg juicer
Because I spent 500$ on Poe supporter pack


whale tag just for 500?
lol
Nope
not even greens
fr what a loser
POST MORE PIGS FUCKING BUBBLING IN DA WATA
he should get the RMT tag that chuan has in my discord after showing receipts for spending $50000 on lost ark gold per month
bugger
how do you get the summer badges on steam?
oh it's just doing daily discovery queue
point shop
double lv100 wolf harder than lv120 wolf
up to 40 which costs 40k points
yeah i worded it wrong i meant the cards
but i did see that and bought them

also get 1 card per 10 dollars
and theres a bot that does 1:1 trades to complete your set
whoever wrote that feed them to bracken
Who wants some
Lobsters only heal 12
You should use swordfish and anchovy pizzas
For their higher healing amount
Cockroaches?
🪳
My Artist making plays.
hh
have none of you seen isopods 
i'm a big crustacean/fish creature fan but ngl that looks disgusting
Dont yuck their yum
Its japan
Or some other asian country

Maybe Malay
Or singapore
should be sea
imagine if oppenheimer knew this would happen in the future? he'd crank up that enriched uranium 235 to like 3 extra orders of magnitudes


@dull obsidian
@urban obsidian you did the 2 lv100 wolfs here? 
I haven’t done anything yet pretty much
ah you just did some or whole story and went off or?
yeh basically
Did story did a little bit of exploration to get another for another 10 pull and got off
another one
Ok Rmt

Ok chuan

damn...
Yea, I know, you and all the other people here are "f2p" (forced 2 pay).
alot of drdisrespect reaction vids
Who?
thats worse than zhengs roster
i know
most morally upright streamer
being f2p is hard
NICE F2P BRO.
on the internet
those were donated to me
I see, 


so f2p technically
His job donated money for lost ark so its cool
his got a 1640 i don't, also i don't have infinite gold, only streamers have that
Former* considering he was trying to diddle a minor.
i dont have infinite gold
i jus have luck.. sometimes
Yea, It's like zheng? Or whoever's logic it was, "I paid with this for the rent money I make being a slumlord therfor it's free" 
nah bro fr im f2p
with the progression event in july ill have another 1620
Ok

5 chars in t4 isnt so bad
interview for a new job tomorrow 
will finally be able to spend too much money on gacha games

Only 5? 
gl 
did u put on your resume that you are expert gacha enjoyer
i should also mention i applied to the wrong kroger...
why the fuck are michigan roads x number road


13 mile road
???
theres one thats like a 5 minute drive from me
and i applied to one thats liek a 16 minute drive 
L
dw scalp just say its from stream donations next time
and it wasnt showing on minimap, great game
wt f

i got pengu pengu, i guess all the currency got converted?
havent looked in tft for ages
i got this one 

exiting vanguard before i run lost ark makes gpu use like 10% less power
it must be doing some fuckery
_
wtf chris is back
i dont play wuwa it means nothing to me

wtf how is that fake
Reminds you of lost ark dont it

Final fantasy vibes
wtf even is jinshi team

who tf am i even building for with her
one twitter image i saw her with yinlin and valeria as bis team 
dont u have better ping in league now mizu
is urf back out on league
nice
Yinlin/mortefi/sanhua (any sub)+ support
no they playing vampire survivors
Yeap

no shit
i think something is bugged
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they bingchilling
jinhsi is gaining way more stacks than she should
maybe last time buff
what team comp u using
i kinda wanna hear the cn version when it comes out
damn they actually extended the ahri skin deadline @urban obsidian
they pushed it back a whole patch
ok yeah, they added another effect to her forte, this is why; mortefi is giving her like 20 stacks from the little time he spends on field
yeah
i got s1 jinhsi
i sawthat

soo now mortefi is her bis?
now s2 then wep
like
I skip
s2 is YUGE
mortefi taoqi jinhsi
team with most dmg its wihout supp
jihnshi yinlin mortefi
Kinda tempted to do one pull for funzies tho
don't cheat on our waifu save all pulls

i skipped yinlin to go all on jinshi
also
F
if i end up going for sequences
what boss r they now
Problably changli work well with jinshi to.
yeah im thinking of going s2
Is Changli dps?
but i think im gonna lose my next 50/50 if i cash
2def 1 hp and a batk roll
dps/subdps
not sure
u still have the whole patch

just from play testing her

i want changli for my encore :l
her skill cooldowns reset every time she gets the new version of it
soo you can literally

skill 4a skill skill 4a skill



















lost 5050



do i buy pengu pengu



