lost-ark-discussions

[uneven mortar]

pepesigh

[dull obsidian]

Finished my 2 echidnas

might push 1 more

my soulfist has the mats and 50% of the oreha already

[supple parrot]

ppl dont even know

how to fuckin drop pinks

these ppl were just dropping them randomly

in middle of the map

[dull obsidian]

oh wtf

in this party

they're using destroyer endure pain + some shielding for venus

[tulip charm]

well, it helps if the supp pre scout and give us a callout in chat on the positions of the blues

or if doing it blind like they were doing, at least drop pinks so it connects

[uneven mortar]

if no one tells me where the blues are i drop in th emiddle

[dull obsidian]

ew wtf

[uneven mortar]

these lvl 10 gems is not for doing mechs

[dull obsidian]

no one is telling blues?

you drop between the 2 blues if you want to greed

but no one is scouting?

[uneven mortar]

thats why i said i drop smack dab in the middle

highest chance of inbetween 2 blue path

[supple parrot]

that is bad.. if u r just dropping randomly to connect them, literally blocks off the map

[dull obsidian]

that isn't good

lmao

[supple parrot]

during tether and shit

[dull obsidian]

when you do tether run

[uneven mortar]

i know

[dull obsidian]

if middle is fucked its 99% over

[uneven mortar]

i know

[supple parrot]

dropping randomly in middle

is rly bad

if they dont get cleared

[dull obsidian]

we have someoen always scouting and calling

people don't do that in pugs?

[supple parrot]

if they are smart they do

but most are not smart

i tell rosey to do it

but he only does it 30% of the time

cuz he isnt smart

[dull obsidian]

[tulip charm]

its better than dropping it at the edge or crowded zone

[dull obsidian]

This souleater class is a little broken

did sneaky just do 1.2b with 4 skills in a dark + holy aura

[supple parrot]

middle is the most crowded zone

[dull obsidian]

we had a run

[supple parrot]

if sup dont scout

[dull obsidian]

where we had 5 flowers

[supple parrot]

i just go scout my self

so if i have it

i drop it correctly

[dull obsidian]

when you move slightly away from the boss and you have seed

map zooms out

you can see quite a lot

[supple parrot]

that only works if ur on a fast class

[dull obsidian]

eh

[supple parrot]

u have to know where ur goin

beforehand

[dull obsidian]

My DB not that fast

because no axel

[tulip charm]

bra i am clicking the advanced honing button too fast, i didn't solar the 6x orbs twice wtf

[dull obsidian]

and double spincutter instead of triple

[supple parrot]

wut if the spot

is on the other side

[dull obsidian]

then you place it as close as you can

?

Since you're gonna cleanse if it next to it

its either on it or next

[tulip charm]

these scenarios shoudn't happen in the first place, they are not typing/pinging the spots

[dense abyss]

chuan carry me echidna

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

they made it to underground prog

they died in 15s

[empty sleet]

Is there a LA event going on for new players?

[dull obsidian]

yes

we still have breaker pass

[empty sleet]

when does it end?

[dull obsidian]

mid july

[empty sleet]

ight bet

DId they make a new support class yet or nah?

[dull obsidian]

we lose those good raid chests soon

no

[empty sleet]

L game 😔

[dull obsidian]

wait people are yapping but this striker class isn't even that bad

?

[supple parrot]

striker is good

[dull obsidian]

bakergoat is doing almost 1b per rotation

[supple parrot]

baker

the haired deathboi

[dull obsidian]

350m kick
84x5m blast
150+180 emerges

thats some pretty good dmg

oh its like 7 hits for blast formation

[supple parrot]

zerker is the only shit class

gieb zerker buff

[dull obsidian]

calm down

[tulip charm]

[dull obsidian]

you just got your like 1% dr buff

you're back in line

[supple parrot]

stfu u stupid ass db

hope u get a 30% nerf

dumbass

[dull obsidian]

My surge already 30% nerf from class engraving

[empty sleet]

Is there a way to mute my characters voice? THinking about playinga Bard since I already have a paladin but the bard voices are annoying as hell

[dull obsidian]

probably check audio settings

idk though

[supple parrot]

joined a reclear

lets see

[dull obsidian]

stream fr

[tulip charm]

advance honing is not cheap -_-

[dull obsidian]

ye

[tulip charm]

it uses a stupid amount of orehas

[dull obsidian]

its pricey

ye thats the one annoying part

oreha

wep is 30 oreha per tap

lmao

[tulip charm]

i have bound mats like 5k bound leaps on all the alts, but not enough bound leaps on main

[dull obsidian]

its like 1500 on average to finish wep from 1 -> 10

[tulip charm]

inb4 big echida prog -_-

[empty sleet]

If i just wanna main 1 char (Bard) will I have to swipe or nah

[dull obsidian]

uh

if you want to catch up 100%

[tulip charm]

you only need to swipe if you want to swipe

[dull obsidian]

take your time and hit 1620 within 3 months

and you will get 1640 from story

[empty sleet]

Idm a slight wait since im playing WoW Sod/cata

[dull obsidian]

which will let you do thaemine hm, echidna hm and behemoth

[empty sleet]

ok not that bad i suppose

[dull obsidian]

just make sure you gear yourself before

you'll need luminary/faith/advance 40

[empty sleet]

Forsure

[dull obsidian]

pally is a pretty good support now

what makes you want to swap

[empty sleet]

ima prob find aguild so i can get into old content without trolling

[empty sleet]

The fights seem a bit high movement i felt like a caster would be nicer

[dull obsidian]

bard is not the one you want to pick

if you feel like you need high movement

[empty sleet]

I mean i dont wanna play Artist

[dull obsidian]

tough outta luck

[empty sleet]

Ong

[neon cedar]

Paladin

[dull obsidian]

Bard requires some very high cpm

if you want to play like paladin

it is a higher buff ceiling

but paladin will have more movement

more ondemand stagger

[empty sleet]

hmm okay

[dull obsidian]

you're casting too much as well as having like 4-6 skill presets

[neon cedar]

Paladin has some of the best stagger. They just got buffed to have push immunity and more weakpoint

[empty sleet]

So what ilvl does the breaker pass take us?

[dull obsidian]

1610

I think there is honing support to 1620 though

[empty sleet]

ight bet

[dull obsidian]

do we still have those books we get for just honing?

[empty sleet]

Cool, i guess ill just prio that

[neon cedar]

PP - 1460
Mokoko express 1460-1580
Thaemine express 1580-1600+

[dull obsidian]

new event shop also just has 1620 books

[empty sleet]

Is gunlancer a supportish or nah?

[dull obsidian]

gunlancer is a dps

[empty sleet]

😦

[dull obsidian]

gunlancer does have some support though

DR and team cleanse

as well as an awakening whi ch grants 40% damage reduction for like 10s

[empty sleet]

I remember blue lancer being able to fill support on Valtan 🥺

good old days

[dull obsidian]

blue lancer was not a good alternative

I remember because I did valtan with 2 blue lancers for clear

[empty sleet]

isnt blue the one with buffed shields?

[dull obsidian]

shields is not enough

[empty sleet]

Skill issue on god

[dull obsidian]

supports provide heal, shields, and big damage

[empty sleet]

[dull obsidian]

as well as proper DR for timings

[empty sleet]

U dont have them outright replace both of them

only one of em

[dull obsidian]

nah we had a gl for both parties

support shortage was too real

LOL

[empty sleet]

U put the lancer in the non shit group and the support in the shit one

[dull obsidian]

baker just died

in the first 7 seconds of the raid

[tulip charm]

what raid?

[dull obsidian]

echidna g2

[uneven mortar]

WHY IS THIS GAME SO FUCKING EZ

ok thats 3 clears

im done

im fuckin done

[dull obsidian]

only 3 to go

[uneven mortar]

oh my god my pp so hard right now

[dull obsidian]

!!!

[uneven mortar]

nah

i play 3 chars only now

[rigid aurora]

wow a class i will never play

[dull obsidian]

I hop into Benji stream

and hes in g4 thae

[stark sky]

bluelancer has a shield every 24 seconds and a push immune shield every 90 sec

[dull obsidian]

dead

[stark sky]

Not really supportive xdd

[dawn yacht]

Why tho ? You also like icy no male classes ?

[rigid aurora]

looks like a worse woosa bruh

slower woosa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6LKRicRZGE @queen grail

[tulip charm]

dang right after we disbanded? gratz

[uneven mortar]

yeah lol found a party and we cleared in 2 pulls

we almost wiped though cuz someone turned on snake

[faint grove]

gz was it fun

[tulip charm]

@supple parrot are you jailed on sorc lol

[uneven mortar]

man i wonder if this is how it feels to be a winner

i dont know h ow you have the headspace to do other raid lol

i cant think of any other raid than echidna when i was progging

[supple parrot]

almost cleared but these guys fuckin dont attro on snake and we didnt kill it

and then ppl died

we didnt have enuf dmg

[tulip charm]

WTH are they saving atros for

[uneven mortar]

[tulip charm]

Oh yea, for arti players here, I forgot to mention, watch out with your forward barrage at mirror counters, try to use napalm to counter instead

Your fb can splash to the side and freeze your char

[uneven mortar]

man now that i finished raiding

i dont know what to feel

[thorn sluice]

Did you finish all your echidnas

[midnight marlin]

@wintry crypt @rigid aurora i think i passed by this bridge but its too fkn dark

[rigid aurora]

send pic anyway

also we need to retake that lowkey

[midnight marlin]

erm

i deleted it

and its not the same bridge

and now its def way too dark to tell wtf is happening outside

[tulip charm]

Made a late night snack stir fried pork belly with broccoli, baby portebello and a littlebit of left over lettuce

[uneven mortar]

yeah man of course

[steel minnow]

u mean morning snack?

[uneven mortar]

i told you game so ez

[neon cedar]

[rigid aurora]

you fucker

how is it that dark where u are bruh u are in TOKYO

also it's foggy as shit damn

[neon cedar]

It gets dark in vrc? Cant you just like, /time set day ?

[midnight marlin]

oh

i just passed it rn

i had camera open but you literally cant even see the red warning lights for airplanes

[rigid aurora]

ok

[midnight marlin]

depends on the world and if the creator included a day/night set, its rare to see one that does have it

[rigid aurora]

im gonna take a long ahh bath and sleep

[neon cedar]

I see, I forget basically everything is communtiy made

[midnight marlin]

i saw the bridge when i was traveling towards kyoto but i didnt realize until after i passed it

shinkansen too fast

[rigid aurora]

tell driver to slow down

[midnight marlin]

we'd crash

[uneven mortar]

i dont have the energy to play other games now

[midnight marlin]

im flabbergasted how short the time b/t trains is compared to how fast the trains go

[uneven mortar]

i prolly shouldnt be farming spectro shit since i dont know if ill pull jihnsi

[midnight marlin]

dps verina

[cursive ruin]

going to the gym today

hide ur wives

[midnight marlin]

im hiding with them

[uneven mortar]

definitely dont want to be counting chicken before it hatches

shit

[severe mulch]

is there any way that i can find a supp for kayangel g2-3 here? Our sup disconnected...

[neon cedar]

?lfg

[tawny gate]

We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051276943619792948/#1051285338569580564

Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Lost Ark LFG (International): https://discord.gg/thelostarklfg
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
Loot Heroes (NA East): https://discord.gg/lootheroes
Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA West): https://discord.gg/lost-mokokos
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German) https://discord.gg/mokokomentors

[severe mulch]

Ty 🙂

[neon cedar]

Try one of thos maybe? lfg doesnt really happen here and youll just get buried by convo

[severe mulch]

Yeah ty 🙂

[neon cedar]

There should be a generic LFG chat for EU in here too under regional chats

Gl out there

[severe mulch]

Tyyy

[sand marsh]

Holy. There's so many Reddit posts dooming about echidna wtf

[uneven mortar]

pathetic losers

[midnight marlin]

reddit

[uneven mortar]

all jokes aside they keep making raids like this game will be dead in the west

were the wrong demographics

[wind dagger]

game in west is

https://tenor.com/view/walking-dead-negen-bat-pedo-discord-gif-21899232

[uneven mortar]

single player

[wind dagger]

walking dead

[fervent glen]

just wait for next year and thaemine+echidna solo np

[uneven mortar]

you reckon theres next eyar?

[wind dagger]

I just want solo raids to come out soon

[uneven mortar]

by next year there will be 150 players only

[wind dagger]

so I can earn gold

[fervent glen]

you need only 4, 8, 16 or just yourself for raids.

[wind dagger]

and they still won't revert the three days waiting time for gold or selling skins

big R

[uneven mortar]

who you gonna play with when ags will close the server

ags will prolly close the whole division

i mean amazon close whole ags division

[fervent glen]

if lost ark stays a niche grind game its fine. you wont even need AH or? with t4 xD due to ark passives. SSF like in poe then

and gems you grind with your 30 char roster np

[wind dagger]

sg fucked up

or actually not fucked up, done on purpose

[charred void]

new drama??

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-it-georgia-dawgs-go-uga-gif-16018867

[fervent glen]

kinda on purpose because kr is the main audience, hopefully they just dont close eu like japan

[burnt tree]

[fervent glen]

due to steam charts lost ark has the lowest avg player count ever in 06/24 xd

[uneven mortar]

the game worksin kr cuz they can sell gold, in here bot does that work

[tulip charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnosNfosGes&ab_channel=Arsenalty almost 2 mil views

[burnt tree]

oh the doom posting again huh

[fervent glen]

kr like to swipe for their hobbys and also like to grind- different mentality

[fervent glen]

no arkesia is still saved

[burnt tree]

nah lost ark sucks

[uneven mortar]

when are they gonna bring natlan

[burnt tree]

doom posting is just annoying

[burnt tree]

bro still playing genshin

[uneven mortar]

still the best mobile game

[wind dagger]

Doom posting goes doom

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-slim-shady-houdini-gif-12443265260554385536

[weak plinth]

Hey guys, is there a way to let my auto dismantle function to apply to every single lv4 amulets? (and not auto salvage lv5s)
It's quite annoying to salvage them manually every time

[burnt tree]

you cant just spread misinfo like that wrekk

[uneven mortar]

igotta forge and cook

and im done

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-lost-ark-gif-15547859808190494725

[midnight marlin]

#lost-ark-help message

[sullen plaza]

hows echidna english voice ?

[uneven mortar]

play with music off

[supple parrot]

unjailed

cant trust wrekk

we fucking enraged twice cuz not everyone alive, im so fuckin deadge man

[uneven mortar]

wym cant trust me

i cleared hours ago brah

[supple parrot]

how ppl only do 15 mil dps with 40 elixirs

u started

hours before me

there was no lobby

after u joined that one

[uneven mortar]

wym

i cleared in 2 pulls brah

im telling you game so ez

[supple parrot]

u just keep joinin lobbies til u get carried

[uneven mortar]

to be honest though you stayed too long

nah

its all my skill

of finding carries

[supple parrot]

[uneven mortar]

old dogs gotta have a bag of tricks

[supple parrot]

well 3 of em done

3 to go

[uneven mortar]

i cant imagine playing 6 char again

[supple parrot]

ppl fuckin hold skill

man

on the snake

fuckin 3 bar hp left

suddenly no one

hit it ne more

[uneven mortar]

LMFAOO

[supple parrot]

like what the fuck

these ppl

greedin the fuck

out of every pattern

to do 15 mil dps

[uneven mortar]

[supple parrot]

while i never get chamred once on igniter and do 20

[uneven mortar]

[supple parrot]

always 3 sleep bomb used

[uneven mortar]

we almost wiped lol

cuz someone doesnt know how to handle the cone

killed me and other 2 guys

the cone takes so long to materialize

[supple parrot]

Our arti

Got turned by cone

Twice

I slept him

Actual morons man lol

[sullen plaza]

bro fuck all these 1620 lobby's

with full lvl 10's

[uneven mortar]

i dont know why you staying with those teams

[buoyant wagon]

what is dead may never die

[burnt tree]

[uneven mortar]

@supple parrot at least next week it will be much easier

[buoyant wagon]

but yes from a pug perspective

[uneven mortar]

alot more reclear lobbies

rn theres too many x50 bullshit

[swift tree]

Did you get it with legendary or purple filter?

[buoyant wagon]

echidna isn't healthy for pugs and casuals

[uneven mortar]

x50 team means they are x130

[burnt tree]

legendary

[uneven mortar]

reclear means they are fucking x50

[burnt tree]

my last legendary xdd

[supple parrot]

U know. If I don’t play with shitters then how r ppl like u gonna clear

[swift tree]

nice, I was lucky and got it with purps.

[uneven mortar]

[burnt tree]

damn

[uneven mortar]

i clear just fine thank you very much

i was on mvp screen on both clear

[swift tree]

Just need the stupid gathering quest to finish.

Also have no clue how to get ring

[uneven mortar]

its just better for me if theres someone who can carry

[sullen plaza]

lmao so many whales in echidna

crazyt

not a single f2p

[uneven mortar]

arnd this time people alr moving down from hm

lol

so you are seeing the 1630s that just want clear at this point

[supple parrot]

? I’m completely f2p

[supple parrot]

Hm is not even that much diff than nm. U just gotta do hm dmg

[charred void]

[supple parrot]

Everyone doin 30 mil+ in hm

And it’s basically same as nm

[buoyant wagon]

even f2ps at this point can easily have a 1630 character with +25 and full 10s

[sullen plaza]

yeah

[buoyant wagon]

40 elixir and 100+ transcendence

[sullen plaza]

right

[buoyant wagon]

it's called playing for 1.5+ years

[tulip charm]

pretty sure i would have done around 18ish if our supp didn't die in the first 30seconds and we progged past mirrors

[charred void]

also just play on naw, sell stuff for 3x than any other region but have the same honing cost as every other region

[buoyant wagon]

gems cost more on naw though

same with accessories

[tulip charm]

also its stupid asf dark axl can be pull out of the air with tenacity

[buoyant wagon]

so it all evens out

[tulip charm]

echidna ribbons can stun dark axl right above her head

[charred void]

no, it does not even out

when accs are worth shit on eu

[uneven mortar]

you should never be caught by ribbon to begin with

[charred void]

you get 1 barely decent drop on naw and sell it for 500k

[uneven mortar]

entropy is really easy to play in echidna

[buoyant wagon]

most people dont get worthwhile stuff to sell to even make a difference

[uneven mortar]

because you just need to always stay behind her

you are bypassing alot of the front mech by doing that

[buoyant wagon]

lol selling something for 500k in naw even in better days was impossible unless you had a 100 quality accessory

[charred void]

i made like 130k gold on a fresh character in about 2-3 weeks on naw

[uneven mortar]

and the way she moves is really predictable otherwise she just stand still

[charred void]

same character on nae had barely any gold

[buoyant wagon]

even purple class 3s on popular classes rarely ever broke 400-500k outside of breaker

[supple parrot]

Ur sup didn’t die

[tulip charm]

not possible anymore the moment t4 was annouced, all big items crashed, all mid items became almost unsellable

[supple parrot]

It was a dps who died

[uneven mortar]

you know echidna actually have alot of downtime

[tulip charm]

[supple parrot]

It literally shows who died for how long in Bible

[uneven mortar]

its just that people greeding randomly their dps got blasted to hell

and some support i dont know why they dont use their atk buff straight away

they wait like 10 seconds after echidna is staggered, or after mirror

its so bizarre

like your buff is 10 fucking seconds use it the moment mirror ends

[supple parrot]

U can dps thru a lot of mechs. U just gotta look at where the safe spots are

[uneven mortar]

theres ALOT of safe spots in echidna

so if you play slow you will do alot of damage still

[charred void]

when dps players dont even know how long the buffs are

[wintry crypt]

That’s so cool though that you saw it irl and in VRChat too

[uneven mortar]

same shit , i need that buff the moment she on the ground

alot of the support just wait for what

now all my attack is outside buff window

[tulip charm]

btw

how do you do the supp cheese?

do you just see ren speech bubble, ping, run to corner, ult, and before the flytrap gets you, g tune?

i haven't ran my supp yet

how long do you have to do all of the above

[rugged lynx]

@bitter lichen

[dull obsidian]

lmao

watching benji

eye of the storm 0/4 crit so far

[burnt tree]

@ancient tundra one 10 pull lmao

done with this patch

[supple parrot]

Just run far away. Ult and dr when the blue circle is almost expanded

If u dr too early u die

[supple parrot]

I had a run where I had 25% crit on eye of storm

In a whole raid

[dull obsidian]

does burger king run hallu?

[supple parrot]

Yes

[dull obsidian]

yeh thats sad as fuck

LOL

my worst crit rate

was probably surge at like 33%

when I had like 88% crit rate

it felt so doomer

[supple parrot]

When perfect swing don’t crit in a row

I just wanna restart

[tulip charm]

its your duty as a surge player to barely have 65% crit, and complain about never critting in vc on every single surge you do

[supple parrot]

Literal like 95 crit rate

Don’t crit

[dull obsidian]

dude

surge syndrome is real

no crit surge = yap in vc

lmao

[supple parrot]

Db players man

[tulip charm]

you should see tth rifle skills, the tth engraving gives massive crit, and 10% crit self debuffed, like almost 90% crit chance, everything is white

[supple parrot]

The literal worst

[supple parrot]

Do u get crit buff for weapon swapping?

[charred void]

just get bracelet with 120 crit, 5% crit, 2,5% expose weakness

[supple parrot]

Also. Don’t u not use crit syn before ur big skill

[tulip charm]

no, just the 10% crit debuff for up to 2 skills

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

I'm ngl

[tulip charm]

but the tth engraving itself have massive crit chance boost, its something absurb, not ingame right now i forget

[dull obsidian]

Never seen a tth do even human dmg

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

its truth...

[supple parrot]

Haven’t seen tth in a while

Last time I saw tth

[dull obsidian]

saw a 1620 recently

[supple parrot]

It was Zheng’s gs

[dull obsidian]

40 set full 10's

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

never made it to mvp screen in thaemine nm

but my full 7 sorc does

sorc is very broken

but even then

gear gap was so big

[tulip charm]

ez fighter

[supple parrot]

Thaemine nm runs been sus man. Did 29% on my destroyer

[uneven mortar]

i only did thae nm on soul eater so far

[dull obsidian]

I did 35% on my db on a tuesday bro

lmao

[uneven mortar]

echidna took everything from me

[dull obsidian]

we got double red before horse

??

[uneven mortar]

whole fuckin weekend

[tulip charm]

did 22% mvp on my glavier in g3n thaemine
that was after i got jailed, switched to another pt, and 2 tapped

[supple parrot]

I need to do like 3 echidna 2 thaemine and 2 or 3 voldis

[cedar zealot]

Whole weekend of fun

[dull obsidian]

I got like

4 akkan + infinite brel bus + 1 thaemine bus/run

[supple parrot]

6 chars be taking too long on prog week man

[tulip charm]

did you finish on arti? i saw you in a reclear lobby

[dull obsidian]

oh yeh I got g4 thaemine too

kms

[supple parrot]

Arti? Ya. And then I cleared on sorc

[dull obsidian]

have you gotten hard clear?

[supple parrot]

No. Waiting to prog with rosey and em. But literally can only get in 2-3 hrs a day

[dull obsidian]

rip

[supple parrot]

Cuz these ppl are never online

On time

[tulip charm]

we tried, 4 hours in only made it to basement once, today 90min prog because some people coudn't make it, made it past big echida multiple times but coudn't reach basement

[supple parrot]

Literally we say 6 pm start

Rosey then says 7 30

At 5 45

[tulip charm]

rosey split too thin between multiple gachas

[supple parrot]

Then we make lobbby

Wait to fill prog to 10

And done

[dull obsidian]

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

Rosey big int

[supple parrot]

It might be a pug angle

[dull obsidian]

dude

do you think your static dps is good?

I'm gonna tell you right now

PUG dps right now

is fucking awful

[tulip charm]

i wish i have a class on my roster that can consistently sht out 30mil dmg and be braindead -_-
sometimes i wish i meta chased

[steel minnow]

no and its normal like that it takes time to get rly good uptime

[supple parrot]

Most ppl are around 30 or higher

[dull obsidian]

we got 1 person

who was dealing more dmg than me

I'm playing 4x3+2+1

because

[tulip charm]

shore, just make reclear pts with 2 breaker 2 soul eater, 1 paladin 1 artist

[dull obsidian]

I'm like the baseline atm

once I swap to CD

My dmg goes up like 8%

[gleaming pendant]

dude
do you think your static dps is good?
I'm gonna tell you right now
PUG dps right now
is fucking awful

[uneven mortar]

im so glad i dont take time off to prog with you guys anymore holy shit

[dull obsidian]

dude
do you think your static dps is good?
I'm gonna tell you right now
PUG dps right now
is fucking awful

[gleaming pendant]

I'm like the baseline atm
once I swap to CD
My dmg goes up like 8%

[uneven mortar]

whole day off for 2 hours of progging is insane

[dull obsidian]

kae stfu dum dum

[supple parrot]

Did u clear kae

[steel minnow]

did u clear chuan?

[supple parrot]

Dude today we didn’t start proggin hm until fucking 8 30 pm

And we ended at 11 pm

Or something

[tulip charm]

how far u guys get?

[supple parrot]

Every other day been like 7 30 to 10

[supple parrot]

Like around 100 bars or something g

[tulip charm]

btw, i brought up this suggestion to some other groups, someone test sending in that pure stagger build gunlancer to g2

[supple parrot]

U don’t need anything special

[tulip charm]

feels like the boss is very easily staggered

[supple parrot]

Just hit the boss

[dull obsidian]

eh

Idk

[supple parrot]

Ppl aren’t hitting the boss

[dull obsidian]

having normal stagger is good

[supple parrot]

And is getting stunnned

[tulip charm]

i know you can't taunt it

[supple parrot]

And grabbed

[tulip charm]

but it feels viable

[supple parrot]

Is the issue

[dull obsidian]

because post 210 you counter her -> instant stagger most of the time

huge dps window here

its like 15s

[supple parrot]

As long as ppl don’t get stunned and grabbed

[dull obsidian]

for grab

you should always expect a hit

imo

that shit kinda crazy to dodge

[supple parrot]

Just back the fuck up

[midnight marlin]

ive just been running around thinking "yeah shits better in vrc"

[dull obsidian]

Idk

[midnight marlin]

melon soda hits tho

[dull obsidian]

are you talking about the 2 ribbon grabs?

[tulip charm]

the front ribbon is the most bs move, hardly any tells on it, and if the first ribbon misses she changes agro for another target, if tagged, EVERYONE has to dodge out of close range
dps loss

[supple parrot]

No one got grabbed in my pug earlier on my sorc and we instant staggered that shit

[dull obsidian]

ye front ribbon isn't fun to dodge

[supple parrot]

We had sorc, reaper, gs. All the low stagger classes

[dull obsidian]

idk

our group 80% of the time staggers post mirror

or just before mirrors

where we just finish the link

[supple parrot]

I’m talking about big echidna grab

[dull obsidian]

OH

yeh

those people are stupid idk

[uneven mortar]

we usually wait for clash

[dull obsidian]

The grab range is pretty big though

[uneven mortar]

so can thar

[dull obsidian]

I walk back a bit after every pattern

[uneven mortar]

yeah same

[supple parrot]

You know u have to do certain amount of stagger

[uneven mortar]

yes

[supple parrot]

To trigger clash

[dull obsidian]

some classes can still reach her

when you walk to the back

[supple parrot]

So u just wait for other ppl

To stagger it

[dull obsidian]

bards with soundshock +VPH

are dealing infinite stagger here lmao

[supple parrot]

Me punishing strike boss

From back

[dull obsidian]

we staggered instant with thar

because of soundshock

[midnight marlin]

wtf backshots

[uneven mortar]

it depends on the team stagger but most of th etime im on stagger heavy team

[dull obsidian]

even with pretty low stagger party

[uneven mortar]

so i use one rotation and stop

[dull obsidian]

bards should be using mana food + vph imo

[supple parrot]

Need paladin man. These bards don’t run counter and don’t run vph

[dull obsidian]

don't need max mp increase here

[supple parrot]

[midnight marlin]

food isnt enough

[uneven mortar]

staggered her too fast dont have thar and we wiped anyway

[midnight marlin]

oh in that raid

i have no exp

[dull obsidian]

as a bard you're usually scouting for blues

so you're running away from the boss

and not spamming meter gen

just buff and scout

[midnight marlin]

i know nothing of the raid

i want to play

[uneven mortar]

because that 2 extra bar allow you to thar first THEN ifrit when shes at 50%

[midnight marlin]

[wintry crypt]

HAHAHA

Irl doesn’t have post processing fr

[dull obsidian]

oh yeh

[wintry crypt]

[dull obsidian]

I'm also C/J

that might be why

[midnight marlin]

where my depth of field

i need it

[tulip charm]

some people send thar on entry to big echida, some other people told me they send thar 2 seconds after clash initiates
i know its party stagger dependant, but i prefer the on entry thar usage

[dull obsidian]

eh

thar on clash is better imo

[tulip charm]

there were times where people waited for clash first before sending thar, but it accidentally skipped clash

[supple parrot]

Is there a diff

There isn’t right

[dull obsidian]

shouldn't be?

[supple parrot]

If it up u can just that

[dull obsidian]

i don't even think we had enough for thar for start

[tulip charm]

as long as clash is resolved, you gain 2bars of sideral meter, thats all that matters

[supple parrot]

Thar off rip

[dull obsidian]

because we azena post 210

[supple parrot]

They do it after clash in video cuz they don’t have gauge

Right

[dull obsidian]

I guess you can do it if you have it?

because you also get refunded 1 for finishing big echidna

and supposedly 2 for clash?

[uneven mortar]

yes so you come in with like 3.x bar

you use thar first

then by time shes 50% you can ifrit

now everythign will play nicely

[dull obsidian]

when we first started underground

we kept going in with 5-6

and had to ephernia before clash

and manually clashed

[tulip charm]

can arti chair tank the basement ribbon+ ribbon + multiple ground explosion?

[dull obsidian]

and then thar 2nd white snake

[tulip charm]

i need to field test this later

[dull obsidian]

yes

I can tank it on DB

you have DR don't you?

[tulip charm]

the fk?

[dull obsidian]

I have 270k hp

[tulip charm]

i am talking about the multiple ground explosions that stack up after she ribbons twice

[dull obsidian]

those multiple ground explosions only happen

if they don't get freed before end of pattern

[tulip charm]

yea, when chair and shield is used, chair have passive dr, shield cranks it up to insane amounts of dr but only for a very short duration

[uneven mortar]

if you do thar -> ifrit, the subsequent snakes will be really graceful

[supple parrot]

He is talking about outside inside

[dull obsidian]

oh

[uneven mortar]

her hp goes down so quick because when she does her 100 clash she will be at 90

[dull obsidian]

yeh I can tank that too

[supple parrot]

Where explosion under ppls feet

[dull obsidian]

ye

[tulip charm]

yea, the explosions is only there in basement

[uneven mortar]

and when she does 80 clash she will be at 7x

[tulip charm]

need to test if i can tank that

[dull obsidian]

idk if I had dr or not though

[uneven mortar]

any other combination we failed

[dull obsidian]

I usually just stay out

because losing get up is a pain

[uneven mortar]

you need to save get up for that combined counter in case you fuck up

[dull obsidian]

ye

[uneven mortar]

missing that combined counter is so detrimental holy shit

[dull obsidian]

because its in out in out

if you want to completely dodge that one

[supple parrot]

Just don’t miss

The chars u play have good counters

[uneven mortar]

i always counter

cuz i save get up

[dull obsidian]

dude

I kinda wish rhapsody of light was bigger

during Darkiels 360 sharks

I can't reach some people

kinda cancer

[uneven mortar]

on slayer some god gl decided to ult on that though

that saved our run

[supple parrot]

Just dodge space bar in and counter

[wind dagger]

[supple parrot]

If u miss. Sup should awaken

[dull obsidian]

I'm awakening off cd post venus

probably won't have

just gtune

or dr whatever

[tulip charm]

they need to back out slightly, wait for the double mid slashes, then go back in

[supple parrot]

Why do ppl say u need bard in echidna

[dull obsidian]

no they ar efull greeders lmao

[supple parrot]

Feels like bards is shit

Never counter

[dull obsidian]

but they someones don't make it

[tulip charm]

its nice as a supp your watching to dr people on this, but i can't expect this from supports lol

[supple parrot]

Never stagger

[dull obsidian]

because bard has no counter

prelude is used for gauge

[supple parrot]

Ya fuck bards

[uneven mortar]

the bard i was playing with countered everything lol

[dull obsidian]

I mean artists can't counter either

idk?

lmaoi

[uneven mortar]

some people are just born diff

[supple parrot]

They don’t even buff more

[dull obsidian]

their cast time is too long

[supple parrot]

For not taking counter

Fuck em

[tulip charm]

[supple parrot]

If u don’t take counter

[tulip charm]

thats like expecting bard players to counter top g2 thaemine with prelude, its just not possible, its too slow

[dull obsidian]

its not that we don't take counter

is thats our counter is always on cd

lmao

and its generally slow

[tulip charm]

bards can take the trumpt counter to do it, but there is a cost to taking that skill instead of another meter gen

[dull obsidian]

taking buckshot is complete garbo

because you need rhapsody

and taking off harp is almost a death sentence for buffing

[supple parrot]

Solution: gatekeep bards

[dull obsidian]

because you need to soundshock almost off cd if you take off harp

[supple parrot]

Take artist and paly instead

[dull obsidian]

idk

artist aint much better for counter

lmao

some artists don't even bring it

[supple parrot]

From my experience

Artist counter

They also buff more

[dull obsidian]

ye

bard buff ceiling is higher

thats it

way harder though

[tulip charm]

they troll, that counter is expectionally good
also have decent meter gen too, but you can hold that counter

[supple parrot]

Ceiling higher but ppl buff way less

[dull obsidian]

dude

in our normal thaemine

[cedar zealot]

what did they do to the mvp screen? looks ugly

[dull obsidian]

I pressed my HT 2.5x more than the other bard

LOL

idk what in the fuck he was doing

[supple parrot]

How many 60/60/20 bard have u met in thaemine

[dull obsidian]

he must've been like 50/??/20

[supple parrot]

Way too many man

[dull obsidian]

idk I don't have bible

[supple parrot]

Stfu

Yes u do

[dull obsidian]

?

No I don't

[uneven mortar]

bible is broken

[supple parrot]

?

[dull obsidian]

I always ask for bible SS

[uneven mortar]

cant see meter anymore

[dull obsidian]

because my computer is dogshit

[tulip charm]

didn't you say when you first made your thaemine hm prog group alot of supps applied and you gatekept them -_-

[supple parrot]

Ya they are bad

I played with some artist that is good

In g4

[dull obsidian]

I'm ngl lie though

bard needs a kit overhaul

[uneven mortar]

most of the good support is a dps main

[dull obsidian]

why are we the only class with double brand

[uneven mortar]

thats the fuckin problem

[dull obsidian]

our counter is absolute dog shit and always on cd

why do we have 4 flex skills

[tulip charm]

meh, its fine, the only thing i want them to change is if a bard drops a heal, they should UNIVERSALLY make the heal a 1 bar heal

[uneven mortar]

not many people gonna go like ok let me boost my suppor to 1630

[supple parrot]

Sup makes too much diff

[dull obsidian]

like yeh my 2 and 3 bubble are WAY stronger than a holy aura/moonfall

but wtf

[supple parrot]

In dps

[dull obsidian]

bard 2 bubble is stronger than a moonfall

3 bubble is like 22% dmg buff

but working up a third bubble is hard when you are spamming 2 bubble for consistent dps

unless you're playing for someone

[supple parrot]

Just delete bards

Come out with male bard

[dull obsidian]

dude ngl

if alchemist is a thing

I'm gonna make it

a potions class seems fun

[tulip charm]

thats why i said bard is fine, you trading off qol and consistent buffs for the entirety of the raid, but in return you get insane buffs during scripted instances
g3 thaemine sword stagger, every single clash, and if the bard player is good they can squeeze in additional 3bars during mechs where the boss don't move

[queen grail]

Other classes have multiple brands too,

[dull obsidian]

they aren't required to run it

bard is almost forced to double brand

if you solo sound shock

you suffer on everything else

[tulip charm]

i like the double brand on bard

[queen grail]

Just solo tower and pray boss don't move.

[tulip charm]

nothing feels more stupid then trying to cast brand on artist, but everything in the game interrupts that skill

[dull obsidian]

all supports should have something like glowing brand like artist

I mean

everything interrupts us too

lmao

most of the time

4/8 of our skills don't have para

[wind dagger]

[bitter lichen]

[dull obsidian]

Harp
Soundshock/Sona
Heavenly Tune
Prelude of storm

and 3 of them are buff skills

that have an actual cast time

I run galewind on HT

instead of focus

[queen grail]

Bruh, please, bard has more push immunity than all other supports

[thorn sluice]

Why did I got jailed in 3 g4 Brel this week

[dull obsidian]

[supple parrot]

Why are u still running brel

[queen grail]

Bard has 3, paladin 1(2) and artist has 2.

[thorn sluice]

1600 chars

[dull obsidian]

buff bard

[lucid ether]

https://i.imgur.com/y6TiLsN.png

So you have +40

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

i stopped doing this raid because of it, even if it gives 1.5x more loot than akkan

[swift tree]

Not everyone is full 1610+ Chuan

[lucid ether]

or you dont play the game

[tulip charm]

its too easy to get jailed

[lucid ether]

basically

[dull obsidian]

if you're at 1620 with no 40 set

pugs won't accept you

[lucid ether]

lol

im 39

More than 5 weeks

[dull obsidian]

unless you're actually a reclear

[lucid ether]

trying it

And 300k spend

But nothing

[dull obsidian]

idk

[tulip charm]

brel in its nerfed state is suppose to be a ez raid with maximum rewards for g4, but its just too jaily

[lucid ether]

I cant get one more

[dull obsidian]

that seems like ksill issue

[swift tree]

2 raids post-tower, people expect it

[dull obsidian]

they've given us like

20 free elixirs

just use shitter pieces + usable helm/gloves

[swift tree]

It's close to 40 free legendaries at this point

[dull obsidian]

oh its 40?

lmao

[lucid ether]

free?

[dull obsidian]

yes

[lucid ether]

I opened 10 free ones

[dull obsidian]

silver leg elixirs

event shop?

the gift

[lucid ether]

maximum I get was 52

[swift tree]

4 x10 boxes

[dull obsidian]

new event shop

[lucid ether]

The maximum I get is 52

[dull obsidian]

what 52

??

[lucid ether]

yes

[dull obsidian]

oh

5/2

[lucid ether]

I did not get anything ipper than that

And I need helmet crit

because i only have 5 1

But there is no way

[dull obsidian]

I'm running a 5/1

[lucid ether]

More than 3 weeks

[dull obsidian]

and I ahve 41

[lucid ether]

without any helmet crit spawning

skill issues

I suppose

[dull obsidian]

if you don't have set pieces

[lucid ether]

Right?¿

[dull obsidian]

and you're not gonna reset

you have to kill off

and potentially roll blues

[lucid ether]

Yes

Im trying

But nothing

3 weeks

[dull obsidian]

are you double staggering at start

[dawn yacht]

did anyone here try out tarisland ?

[lucid ether]

more than maybe 50-60 elixirs cutted

2 or 3 crit helment

That went to 4 2, 5 1 or 4 2

[dull obsidian]

to blue - purple - purple - blue - blue - purple

[uneven mortar]

the way elixir work is absolutely pathetic

i dont know why they dont fuckin rework it

[supple parrot]

Same. On arti

[dull obsidian]

elixirs is a shit system

but knowing how to cut

[lucid ether]

And then my main,I get full 40 week 2

[dull obsidian]

increasaes your chances by an insane amount

[lucid ether]

thinking elixirs where pretty chill

[crimson bison]

just use elxir cuitting ai

[lucid ether]

Then with the alter

2 months

[dull obsidian]

elixir cutting ai is dogshit

[lucid ether]

and still no set 40

[tulip charm]

buffs elixirs
give me 45 effects!!!!

[lucid ether]

Because I cant get any good helment crit

[crimson bison]

my friend did 3 5/5 in a row 😛

[tulip charm]

pretty much have all 45 or 46 now

[crimson bison]

with the ai

[supple parrot]

I just use my big brain

[uneven mortar]

i got 40 set on 2 chars already on my scrapper i already cut 60

[tulip charm]

don't use it

[dull obsidian]

cutting elixirs isn't hard

[uneven mortar]

and still keep getting fucked

its so dumb

[dull obsidian]

I don't use transendence ai anymore