lost-ark-discussions

[turbid oriole]

what

[swift tree]

Assuming downtime goes smooth, since it started early

no?

[worn current]

Bro lol

[turbid oriole]

[empty sleet]

Nah fam

[swift tree]

They’re weirdly fast with update maintenance

[turbid oriole]

[swift tree]

Anytime it involves a continent it came up soonish

[empty sleet]

Ayo Pallys

[swift tree]

You see the change?

[ancient tundra]

chuan and his cousins

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-activity-whale-activity-fatih-kev-gif-24585224

[quartz turret]

[worn current]

Thats messed up lol

[ancient tundra]

it s just whales

[swift tree]

Would put a gif of those whales flying around in that old Disney movie but damn not a single gif

Baby Chuan (2000. Colorised)

[worn current]

[sand marsh]

ah yes i love card xp

[swift tree]

gib me

I need like 2 mil to finish

[rancid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-lounge-rolling-lounge-main-chat-gif-17309145034226984847

[empty sleet]

@swift tree

Part 1 - Kazeros
Part 2 - Igharam
Part 3 - Regulus

Thoughts?

[swift tree]

Long and the short, yeah

[empty sleet]

Almost done with part 1, next part is the Primordials and Igharam(Kharmine and Thaemine)

[swift tree]

Primordials, Gods and the true Abyss

[empty sleet]

I think the Gods will be in part 3 (besides Igharam)

Wdym by the true Abyss tho?

[dull obsidian]

holy soon we get dmg to gods/archdemons in cards??!!

[swift tree]

Petrania in the story so far as been described as the "Abyss", but it's actually a part of Arkesia.

Petrania waxes and wanes with Arkesia. They're part of the same "knot" that Regulus made.

Undoing both opens the true Abyss that Aegir and Narok are from.

[empty sleet]

I thought those were the Haals?

[cedar zealot]

Sig or Herta shop lc

[quartz turret]

That’s what I have rn

Gotta farm for relic tho

[still lintel]

damn this dude a 10th time

[cedar zealot]

I crafted my whole set

Bad subs but I'll work on it slowly

[worn current]

I seen a firefly in my house it could be a sign that im pulling firefly soon

[robust birch]

[burnt tree]

Precise Dagger bis?!?!

[midnight marlin]

i dont understand rim lighting

is it to highlight the silhouette

[vagrant cradle]

need to see what relic engraving precise dagger does

but who the fuck would use precise dagger when adrenaline gives 20% crit rate at max

[quartz turret]

ye im gonna farm a bit to see if i got anything usable first then craft

[burnt tree]

Me

Because i can

[vagrant cradle]

[burnt tree]

[quartz turret]

time to build galager

and harmony mc

[restive plover]

does the chaos assault part 2 use the same currency or different for the shop

[prime wind]

Diff

[burnt tree]

Diff #2

[dull obsidian]

Diff #3

[still lintel]

Diff #4

[burnt tree]

@ancient tundra 6 singles for Firefly(another 50/50 win), 30 summons for LC.

[dull obsidian]

https://www.twitch.tv/legalia/clip/WittyCarelessPotRaccAttack-6_hMJn7hJctqhLb5

[dull obsidian]

ok

I missed out on a thaemine g1-3 and a thaemine g3 this week

slaccer

[cedar zealot]

One foot out the door already

And we didn't even get t4

[dull obsidian]

I bus infinite every week anyway

[random ginkgo]

how long before reset

[dull obsidian]

30m

[random ginkgo]

rip

[blissful rose]

quick thae g1-3 go

https://tenor.com/view/20-twenty-minutes-rick-and-morty-gif-12928450

[dull obsidian]

its like 40-50m for a 1-3

[blissful rose]

[ancient tundra]

gz

bro

[supple parrot]

for thaemine nm? its like 30 min, 1620+ 40elixir only

[dull obsidian]

people are dogshit

not happening

[blissful rose]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

No static?

[ancient tundra]

Staticless

[dull obsidian]

[sand marsh]

jus do it

[rare quartz]

Is curse doll and mass increase a buff or nerf

From adding atk power to dealing damage to enemy

[sand marsh]

mass increase for sure a buff

ig cursed doll as well

[burnt tree]

[rare quartz]

Dealing damage to enemy is considered buff right?

[supple parrot]

can someone link the thing again

[sand marsh]

ya

[dull obsidian]

which "thing"

[supple parrot]

the new engravings are out?

the dev notes or w/e

[rare quartz]

Got it. Thx scalp

[sand marsh]

https://lostark.game.onstove.com/News/GMNote/Views/1221

[supple parrot]

for t4

[dull obsidian]

eh let me hop on dev notes

[ancient tundra]

I want to send u a pic man so bad but it s kinda spoiler

Of acheron

[burnt tree]

Lol

[supple parrot]

thx baldie

[burnt tree]

Send it. Not like I'll play once im home

[sand marsh]

fuk u loser

[supple parrot]

???

[burnt tree]

Gonna dip in Lost Ark

[dull obsidian]

so entropy got a ceiling nerf?

[supple parrot]

i said thx

u toxic fuck

[dull obsidian]

bro no way

[ancient tundra]

From story

[burnt tree]

Oh that's not really spoiler

[dull obsidian]

this guy didn't like his support

so he left

???

its over

[burnt tree]

We already know she looks like a grown up Mei

[supple parrot]

based

shit support and leave

[ancient tundra]

Ah I meant

[buoyant wagon]

i had a garbage paladin in my akkan earlier

[supple parrot]

dont let these 40/40/10 sups get free clears

fuck em

[ancient tundra]

Just didn't wanna spoil beauty of the pic

[buoyant wagon]

like 30% brand and 50-60% ap buff

[ancient tundra]

[buoyant wagon]

and 30% aura or whatever

[modern grail]

@bitter lichen smh ur region got into asia pacific server on throne and liberty

[buoyant wagon]

said i wanted to switch parties for a better support

[dull obsidian]

Dude its gold

[supple parrot]

30 aura is pretty good man

[dull obsidian]

if its mid week

whatever

but we're 9 mins from shutdown

[buoyant wagon]

other person got offended and said the pally was his 12 year old son piloting his account

[dull obsidian]

lmao

[buoyant wagon]

told him i didnt care

dont let your 12 year old play if he's shit at the game

[supple parrot]

ya but its a based move

[dull obsidian]

my 4250 gold

or is it 3750

whatever it is for akkan g3

[supple parrot]

Mana Flow
Existing: If you are not attacked by an enemy, your mana recovery speed increases by up to 5/10/15% every 3 seconds, and when the maximum effect is reached, the skill cooldown is reduced by 3/6/10%. When hit, the effect is deducted once and has a cooldown of 10 seconds.
Change: When using skills other than movement and basic attacks, mana recovery speed increases by 0.5/1.2/2.4% for 10 seconds (up to 10 stacks), and when the effect reaches the maximum stack, the skill cooldown is increased by an additional 2/5/8. % decreases. This effect is applied after the skill ends when a cooldown reduction due to skill cancellation is applied.

holy shit

paly has to run it now

perma 8% cdr by spamming skills

thats op af

maybe bard will use it too for the mana regen

[modern grail]

any of the 3 supp can run that i think

[supple parrot]

go half spec half swift

and use it

[dull obsidian]

oh yeh

wait thats huge

[supple parrot]

thats super op

[dull obsidian]

paladin and artist

[supple parrot]

better than any other engraving

for support

[left maple]

I'm here to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvyfQdm89mY

[dull obsidian]

can slot in a spec ring now?

HOLY

ITS MEMO

@devout fractal

Your idol is here

[copper halo]

spam noted

[supple parrot]

is that the real memo?

[dull obsidian]

ye

[supple parrot]

no way

[dull obsidian]

xdd

[sand marsh]

im also here to give u more gold on NAE sir

[dull obsidian]

he pops in here every now and again

[supple parrot]

stfu bald boi

no one wants ur rmt'd gold

prob get banned

for recieving it

[sand marsh]

[keen copper]

@quartz turret im free

[copper halo]

chuan already has all the gold on nae how can you give any of it to someone

[left maple]

[quartz turret]

[copper halo]

until 0 tunes hit

[supple parrot]

wait a minute, precise dagger got buffed

is it usable now

[sand marsh]

100% usable

[dull obsidian]

idk

[supple parrot]

can someone who know what they are talkin about answer me

[dull obsidian]

a lot of people I know are just saying to use 6 dmg engravings and play for ceiling

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

???

its not bad with the change

jus read it

[supple parrot]

i know but is it better than adren

[dull obsidian]

no

[quartz turret]

what else do u use

[copper halo]

hopefully no copypaste errors in that, just swapped the crit dmg reduction in the existing google sheet

[supple parrot]

if it aint better than adren then its still a dead engraving

[sand marsh]

according to the screenshot. adr can go up to 20% crit rate. so no.

[supple parrot]

other than for like niche builds

[dull obsidian]

Class
Grudge
HM/AM/MB
CD/MI
RC
KBW

[sand marsh]

its good for those niche builds yea

like pistooler

[dull obsidian]

I heard MI is now multiplicative?

instead of additive

[supple parrot]

pistoleer alrdy use it

...

[copper halo]

with mp efficiency giving 20% mana regen and 15% damage there's more competition for the last engravings

[sand marsh]

ya but its a buff cuz less crit dmg loss

[supple parrot]

stablized status is a viable engraving now

for alot of classes

[sand marsh]

MP efficiency i dont think will be used

[supple parrot]

65% health is pretty ez to maintain

[sand marsh]

since magick stream gives mana regen now

and cdr

with no downside

[dull obsidian]

gonna be annoying to atro -> pot

[copper halo]

mp efficiency is hit master with an additional 20% mana regen

it's not bad

[supple parrot]

attro dont drop u to below 65%

[sand marsh]

oh yea on dps maybe

[dull obsidian]

you're not going to be 100% hp when you atro

[supple parrot]

i am

[dull obsidian]

really?

[copper halo]

it's a dps engraving now

[supple parrot]

also i never attro

[dull obsidian]

[quartz turret]

[dull obsidian]

wtf

[quartz turret]

tru

[sand marsh]

i forgot the dmg part of it

ya u right

[supple parrot]

rosey can tell u

that im a true f2p

never attro or stim

[quartz turret]

coupon chuan, never atro never stim

[sand marsh]

no wonder u had so much trouble doing g4

smh

[dull obsidian]

?

g4 atroless is fine

[supple parrot]

? wdym

[dull obsidian]

everyone is dying 210 4-2 anyway

no one has atro there

dude theres no way

the devs are gonna have to tell people how to resolve domain?

its a failed mech

you're just forced to TS

[sand marsh]

u were in 4-1 for a while

[supple parrot]

like 3 days of 2 hrs per day?

what took most of the time

[dull obsidian]

weow

[supple parrot]

was findin group

that dont die

[dull obsidian]

stabilized status got a huge buff

[supple parrot]

in 4-2

[dull obsidian]

from 80% to 65

[supple parrot]

???? i said that 5 min ago

[sand marsh]

why were u only spending 2 hours per day

[supple parrot]

and u said but attro

[dull obsidian]

CD and MI are now multiplicative

[sand marsh]

what the

[dull obsidian]

dude atro eats 25%?

[supple parrot]

100 - 25 = 75

75 > 65

get math'd

bitch

[dull obsidian]

you need to be above 90% at all times if you want to atro and not lose hp

?

dmg*

[tulip charm]

Not sure, but book price went up, surely t4 tmrw

[supple parrot]

dont get hit

always be at 100

???

[dull obsidian]

sounds like a pain to play around

[sand marsh]

jus use atro and dont take dmg

let sup heal u

ez

[dull obsidian]

ew

[supple parrot]

just play with a paly

blessed aura heal u

[sand marsh]

true

[supple parrot]

while u attro

[sand marsh]

very true

[dull obsidian]

Dude ngl

I hate playing with pally

[sand marsh]

wtf

why

[dull obsidian]

people who pilot pally

actually asleep at the wheel

its insane

[sand marsh]

mannn

idk what pallies u playin wiit

[supple parrot]

dude while proggin thaemine

[dull obsidian]

its like 70% of the time the pally is 2nd monitor watching something else

[supple parrot]

most the ayayas ive played with

are actually good

while the bards

i want to

destroy their computer

[dull obsidian]

eh

[supple parrot]

so they can never troll anyone else again

[dull obsidian]

bard is slightly harder imo

but still shouldn't drop below 85/85

[sand marsh]

most pallies i've met, in g4 at least, are pretty solid

consistent 40%+ blessed aura uptime

[supple parrot]

i played with like 5 diff ayayas thats 90+/90+/40-50+

[dull obsidian]

ye

ayaya goes crazy in terms of just buffing

bard is nice because of the Gtune

[sand marsh]

artist doesn't have a ranged DR right

or am i wrong

[dull obsidian]

their attack buff has a 15% dr

[tulip charm]

Starry field

[rigid aurora]

atk buff

[dull obsidian]

but their actual 75% dr

is ontop of themselves

[sand marsh]

yea the actual DR

[gleaming pendant]

15% SUNSKETCH

DR

[sand marsh]

being ontop of yourself is kinda yikes

[gleaming pendant]

[dull obsidian]

[rigid aurora]

[supple parrot]

they do have dr right

[sand marsh]

only reason i dont like playing witht hem

[gleaming pendant]

yes

[dull obsidian]

eh

its range is pretty big

[supple parrot]

cuz i got grabbed today and an ayaya jumped on me

and i took no dmg

[gleaming pendant]

sunsketch/starry

[dull obsidian]

as long as you're not in actual narnia

[sand marsh]

yea its 75 but u gotta be sniffin dps ass to get the effect

[dull obsidian]

you're fine lmao

?

[gleaming pendant]

hopper isn't a DR, just a shield

[dull obsidian]

the range of starry night is huge btw

[gleaming pendant]

starry is

HUGE

AS FUCK

[supple parrot]

do they take that skill

[dull obsidian]

ye

[gleaming pendant]

yes.

[supple parrot]

how much dr is it

[dull obsidian]

its huge gauge gain

[gleaming pendant]

its the core now

[dull obsidian]

75%

[supple parrot]

oh

[sand marsh]

it doesnt seem to be the same range as godsent or w/e

[dull obsidian]

no its not like casting range

[supple parrot]

god sent isnt that big

[dull obsidian]

the range around artist is huge

its like soulfist bomb awakening radius

[supple parrot]

is that big? why they always miss it then

[sand marsh]

hmm, i was watching a friend play artist in g4, it didnt seem like it was that big

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

because boss moves

[sand marsh]

but he wasnt on 21:9 maybe thats why. shrug

[tulip charm]

I think starry the dr period is very very short

[dull obsidian]

you're kinda forced to throw it at a certain timing in your rotation

the dr period is the same?

you're most likely holding it until the end anyway

because its a lot of gauge

[tulip charm]

Compared to raphsody, the duration of the dr I mean

[sand marsh]

all sup dr is 1sec from my understanding

[dull obsidian]

its the same..?

[supple parrot]

i mean all u need is to block 1 hit

[dull obsidian]

it should be a 3+1s

[supple parrot]

i bet zheng dont even run starry

[sand marsh]

i jus like godsent because i can be far away and cast it. like if someone gets grabbed by thaemine in g4 and does that near oneshot attack, i dont have to rush over. seems like artist kinda has too

[dull obsidian]

the grabs are pretty long in animation bro

if you can't make it over there and cast starry

you're shit

[sand marsh]

i know that

[dull obsidian]

you should be pretty much on the boss 24/7

[uneven mortar]

damn no elixir change

[sand marsh]

i jus wouldnt like having to run over there, personally

[uneven mortar]

feels bad man

[supple parrot]

rly annoyin when ppl trigger grab man

[dull obsidian]

ye g4 grab

[modern grail]

cost changed

[tulip charm]

I do have it, once upon a time that skill was the ink stagger skill, but starry is now main still ever since it got patched ages ago

[dull obsidian]

oh yeh

how much price slash

for elixir

gonna push more 1620s now

[sand marsh]

240 to like 150 or sumn

i forgot

[supple parrot]

??

no its not

[modern grail]

the trans has the one that got nerfed a lot

[supple parrot]

wait what

[sand marsh]

gold tap for elixir i think

is what i mean

[supple parrot]

oh

[dull obsidian]

FINALLY LETS GO

no more alt guilds

[supple parrot]

i just need 1 more good piece

for 40 elixir on deadeye

[burnt tree]

You're late frfr

[dull obsidian]

are you cutting for dmg lines

or just 40 set

[burnt tree]

[supple parrot]

yes

dmg only

dont have the gold

to be cuttin randos

on nae

[burnt tree]

Just buy more gold as usual

[dull obsidian]

holy shit its literally just like half lmao

[supple parrot]

im completely f2p

u dumb ass

[burnt tree]

Why lie

[supple parrot]

thats like

telling homeless

to just buy a house

u idiot

[burnt tree]

Plat packs arent f2p

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-house-braindead-stupidity-buy-gif-26259659

[sand marsh]

if u get double elixir mats, but half the gold cost, arent u still spending the same amount of gold

im fried so i could be wrong

[dull obsidian]

..?

you're getting to cut twice as much

for the same price

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/pokimane-broke-boy-gif-1631750273434798155

[tulip charm]

This is huge

[dull obsidian]

that is half price

[supple parrot]

imagine swiping in this game man, why swipe when i can achieve everything f2p

[neon cedar]

Half cost, double mats, x4 more effective

[dull obsidian]

leg elixir is half gold

40% less catalysts

huge

[burnt tree]

So nothing special for elixirs

[sand marsh]

x4?

really?

[burnt tree]

Still the same shit system

[dull obsidian]

eh its something

[burnt tree]

That's the good stuff

[dull obsidian]

I don't view elixirs as that annoying if you're not aiming for insane dmg lines

[tulip charm]

it’s gonna take ages to transition gems f2p to t4…

[burnt tree]

It wont if you don't sell them

[neon cedar]

In dumb guy math yea. You'll get X2 mats for the same amount of work while ALSO spending 1/2 the gold. It's twice as effective two seperate times

[burnt tree]

[dull obsidian]

pistoleer actually 1% buff from precise dagger change

[tulip charm]

for the first time I am tempted to swipe in the form of a clothing shop, see how it goes, prob won’t swipe

[burnt tree]

Whale

[dull obsidian]

dude its insane how

cd and mi are multiplicative

[sand marsh]

ya ig that makes sense

[dull obsidian]

now you can actually run MI CD ADR

classes saved

[neon cedar]

Dumb guy math

[supple parrot]

just hoard gold and wait for price to come down

[sand marsh]

ADR is 20% crit rate now. DB is eating good with that

[burnt tree]

Im still not running CD

[tulip charm]

Don’t worry people will still complain about elixirs

[dull obsidian]

20% crit?

[burnt tree]

[sand marsh]

ya with relic

books

[dull obsidian]

doesn't that require you to cut an adrenaline stone?

[sand marsh]

nah i dont think so

[faint grove]

magic stream to the moooon

[burnt tree]

Like you still complain about being goldless when you got 3 Sidereal drops

[sand marsh]

maybe i read it wrong, but it seemed like adr was 20% crit

maybe its stone. could be right

[burnt tree]

Grudge/Adre bis stone frfr

[faint grove]

dont think that was 20% crit

[sand marsh]

coulda sworn it was books tho

ya i think its stone

[dull obsidian]

yeh that requires a 10/x stone

[tulip charm]

Echidna honing is eat through all the saved gold

[sand marsh]

The purple, legendary and relic things here. isnt that books?

[burnt tree]

Only the first 10 levels are worth it tbh

[dull obsidian]

dunno

we need more info

probably though

because there is no green

[burnt tree]

It might be tied to the Ark Passive system too tbh

[sand marsh]

green and blue books are removed

[fallow marlin]

Green and blue books are removed

[sand marsh]

and automatically learned

[dull obsidian]

then why is there blue at the top

[burnt tree]

Blues are removed

[dull obsidian]

wtf

[burnt tree]

They confirmed it on the dev blog

[sand marsh]

because u equip blue automatically.

[dull obsidian]

oh

[sand marsh]

like learn it or something

[dull obsidian]

so thats just the base lvl

[sand marsh]

like rn we learn all greens

blue is base yea

[dull obsidian]

yeh should be books still

[fallow marlin]

And yes those are books

[sand marsh]

Okay so ADR is 20% crit then

with relic

holy

[burnt tree]

Soda save the day and give all the dets

[fallow marlin]

Btw I really don't advice people to buy legendary books

[burnt tree]

Nah

[fallow marlin]

They are 100% gonna start giving it away

They already are tbh but even more now

[sand marsh]

hmm why do you think that

wouldnt they want u to spend gold on market

[burnt tree]

Yeah on relic books

[fallow marlin]

Legendary will probably become the epic atm

[burnt tree]

Not legendary

[fallow marlin]

Yeah they probably want people to sell relics instead of legendary

[sand marsh]

interesting. ig that makes sense

well i havent bought any. glad MI went up in price, i had like 6 of those books laying around

[burnt tree]

Yeah probably aim for an easy transition into Tier 4 systems. Also the dev blog seeme to imply the traditional gearing system won't remain for long?

[fallow marlin]

Stabilized state is really good right now

[zealous lintel]

dont you need it for yourself?

[fallow marlin]

I would buy that tbh

[burnt tree]

[fallow marlin]

There's really no point where your at 65% hp

[sand marsh]

i dont think the price of legendary books will stay like this

[burnt tree]

Someone log on my acc and buy stabilised status

[sand marsh]

it will prolly go down

[zealous lintel]

they will go down for sure

makes sense

[fallow marlin]

It's just a free 16% engraving

[sand marsh]

plus the only class i would really use it on is prolly scrapper

[burnt tree]

Scalp will go down too.. in history as a weeb god

[sand marsh]

dont think i'd use it on zerker

[burnt tree]

Im boutta scrap my scrapper for artist

With the perma 5x3 n sht

[sand marsh]

maybe MI on shadowhunter demonic? hmm

[burnt tree]

Nah

If the atk speed was lowered maybe

But I don't think it is

[sand marsh]

Stablized is prolly the best for shadowhunter

[gleaming pendant]

yea it is, but there's some mech that pushes you down to 1% hp like thaemine etc etc, that's where you will be at 5x3 instead of 6x3 for a short while.

[sand marsh]

since u heal when u transform

[burnt tree]

Yeah

[sand marsh]

that will for sure be an engraving SH will run

cant see why i wouldnt run it

[burnt tree]

Well we get 6x3 so people will figure stuff out. I cba too much

[sand marsh]

Paladin doesn't have many options for a 6th engraving

Prolly gonna be Blessed Aura, Awakening, Expert, VPH, Magick Stream and drops

[tawny lion]

Run the spreadsheets and simcrafts

[fallow marlin]

In a way it's a 3rd alternative to cd mi

[gleaming pendant]

change to stab status for gates where there isn't any hp gimmicks

[burnt tree]

Nah i don't care that much

[gleaming pendant]

if there is hp gimmicks in that gate, remove it

[random ginkgo]

if only they nerfed entropy some more, glaivier could be back to nightmare pumping

[gleaming pendant]

[burnt tree]

I'll just see what Koreans cook

And use that

[fallow marlin]

It's too early to tell

[sand marsh]

yeah i wouldnt run it in 4-2, or ivory g2

but other than that, yeah its solid

[fallow marlin]

And we probably won't be using t4 engravings until brel

[tawny lion]

They don’t cook well

[burnt tree]

Probably

[burnt tree]

Neither ppl here

[sand marsh]

nah ill cook

[burnt tree]

They are so biased on their choices they refuse to acknowledge anything else

And Scalp is a weeb amv maker

[sand marsh]

[gleaming pendant]

and still die to v-

[random ginkgo]

v-

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/im-kidding-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-im-joking-gif-25925069

[tawny lion]

Pinnacle feels like ass to play idk why so many like it

[random ginkgo]

"so many" its like one guy who plays glaivier per server

[sand marsh]

some people are pretty good at it

that i've met

[burnt tree]

Zhu is the last hope of glaiviers frfr

[random ginkgo]

frfr but i dont wanna back atk anymore

[fallow marlin]

I dont ever remember nightmare pumping after like clown

Maybe

[tawny lion]

I’m not saying u can’t be good, I’m saying the gameplay is really ass compared to modern classes . Charged back attacks that need to all happen in your tiny buff window - and if you don’t crit

[random ginkgo]

lmao true ngl

maybe they buff nightmare too

[sand marsh]

You shouldn't have to worry about not critting in t4

[random ginkgo]

everything is ass compared to modern chars

[fallow marlin]

My take is we probably won't be having the same raid sets

[random ginkgo]

souleater is just a better sorc for example

[sand marsh]

ig charged attacks are annoying, but it's not the only back attacker with charge skills

[tawny lion]

Idk I feel like playing scrapper tai and wd is less ass

[mortal sluice]

so you end up at 1695

[burnt tree]

My take is, Entropoop won't be included in new sets

[sand marsh]

u gonna go for max sidereal wep

[burnt tree]

[sand marsh]

or naw

[swift tree]

Cook DPS Paladin build >:3

[random ginkgo]

thinking of making wd tbh

wd pretty cool

[mortal sluice]

i mean the max you can go from what i understand for the start is ella 2

so 1715

[tawny lion]

It’s a wonderful class but needs high investment

[sand marsh]

yea 1715

[gleaming pendant]

im about to express a glaiver next month

[mortal sluice]

9 and 10 wont be availiable

yet

[fallow marlin]

Well not many of them have like 3 holding/charge skills that needs to be used in a 6 second window

[random ginkgo]

scrapper tai got reworked-ish and got saved

[random ginkgo]

lies

[sand marsh]

only one i can think of is RE charge build

[mortal sluice]

ill def push it to 1715 without a doubt

[gleaming pendant]

contemplating tbh, either a glaiver or a MS

[random ginkgo]

idk what an ms is

[tawny lion]

Ms

[gleaming pendant]

master sumn

[random ginkgo]

lmao

[wispy sigil]

what item lvl is needed for echidna HM?

[random ginkgo]

nah summoner has no mobility skills bro and long animations

[gleaming pendant]

1630

[sand marsh]

1630

[swift tree]

We going on the assumption that Kenuat gear ends at 1700?

[random ginkgo]

i tried it on kaya server

[wispy sigil]

only 1630 ?

[random ginkgo]

it pumps but kinda ass

[wispy sigil]

thought 1640

[gleaming pendant]

yea maybe a glaiver again

gonna visit my old class

[tawny lion]

I’m seriously considering WD is has very little downsides

[mortal sluice]

1690

+18 is 1680

[swift tree]

Ah, makes sense

[sand marsh]

eso WD is basically a better zerker

[mortal sluice]

so +20 should be 1690

cause +16 is 1670

[swift tree]

Yes

[mortal sluice]

going off that

[brazen smelt]

EW is a close resemblance.

[random ginkgo]

your betrayal is not forgotten

[mortal sluice]

+25 will be 1715

[brazen smelt]

Though their window is longer

[gleaming pendant]

[random ginkgo]

u were pumping with me on glav release

then u chickened out

[tawny lion]

ESO is the one with azure dragon skill pump right

[sand marsh]

i'm jus glad my main has a push immune DR skill now

so gladge

[random ginkgo]

which wd is back atk, first intention or eso

[sand marsh]

FI

[tawny lion]

I think FI

[random ginkgo]

ok we make eso wd

lets pump

[tawny lion]

Same

Let’s make one next month

[random ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-friends-shake-good-job-gg-gif-509878912057404860

[tawny lion]

2 crit SYN op

[random ginkgo]

why server still not down

can we get the patch alread

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/soul-fist-spirit-bomb-lost-ark-gif-11167830179608909231

[random ginkgo]

whats this, skill issue

i made sf and got depression

[gleaming pendant]

skill issue?

[burnt tree]

Skill issue

[random ginkgo]

no its just when u play one of the easiest class in games, you become very impatient with shit that needs more than 2 braincells

i could clear thaemine just fine on glav but then die on all my alts at the first 20 bars

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[burnt tree]

Skill issue

[vagrant cradle]

cant wait to hone up to 1735

[gleaming pendant]

so you kinda bad

noted

[random ginkgo]

why u think we dont play fps games

[mortal sluice]

how do you get to 1735

[vagrant cradle]

1715 from normal honing to +25 and then 20 more from advanced honing

[mortal sluice]

ah

advance

right

[random ginkgo]

thats crazy high

[burnt tree]

They could do a number squish

But don't see it happening any time soon frfr

[dawn yacht]

just aim man

[random ginkgo]

i aim like an 8 year old boy peeing on the toilet and splashing everything in all the wrong ways

[burnt tree]

[vagrant cradle]

[modern grail]

[swift tree]

They could reduce 1600 to +800
but KR would never allow it

Providence becomes 1-8 from 125. Brelshaza Akkan becomes 745 -> 810, 1-8.

[vagrant cradle]

if crit werent an issue, how much value would ~600 swiftness provide to a nightmare igniter?

[swift tree]

Stats are changing with Tier 4, Seems like we’re getting % bonuses mixed in with raw stat pools

[vagrant cradle]

i didnt see any % stats for arc passive

[mortal sluice]

does this mean

we get new life skill mats

in t4

[vagrant cradle]

accessories dont give stats, and you get all stats from arc passive, no?

and bracelet/pet

[zealous lintel]

accesoires still give stats

but like ap or something

[vagrant cradle]

yeah but not swift and all that

[mortal sluice]

well maybe

[vagrant cradle]

which is what im talking about now

[mortal sluice]

we dont know

[swift tree]

Yes and will be able to convert Orehas mats using the crafting. workshop.

[mortal sluice]

if there might be a line that gives like 20 stats

[mortal sluice]

you mean old to new ones?

[swift tree]

Yes

[mortal sluice]

i see

[dull obsidian]

I got into his game again wtf

[vagrant cradle]

im cooking so hard

[swift tree]

Assuming that Oreha mats remain -> Transfer to Powder -> Advanced

[elder igloo]

damn its rival

[swift tree]

And they said that Oreha mats remain

[elder igloo]

OCE dog server anyways

[swift tree]

Orehas are the new Caldarr

[swift tree]

Always has been

[dull obsidian]

Its not terrible but its not great

[faint grove]

so leaps are convertable to t4?

[vagrant cradle]

that's what was said yeah

[swift tree]

?

[elder igloo]

theres tier 4 now?

[faint grove]

panic buy leaps

leaps to the moon

[elder igloo]

wow

[swift tree]

Yeah but it’d be like x5 or x10 like the old ones

[faint grove]

indeed

[swift tree]

Shard reset I can see happening

[faint grove]

i expected them to reset all honing mats ngl

surprised they only did shards

[vagrant cradle]

depending on what we see from kr, i might blow everything into advanced honing so my t3 shards arent wasted

[swift tree]

Shards and Silver are what slows down whaling the most

[swift tree]

Probably the point of the system

[vagrant cradle]

bro

[swift tree]

Since anything you put into it still makes your item level go up.

[mortal sluice]

yea

rip my 10m shards

[vagrant cradle]

not even 24 hours after we talk to this dipshit

and we get proof of him being a dipshit still

[faint grove]

ill park at 1640 probably

[vagrant cradle]

[supple parrot]

[vagrant cradle]

been parked way longer than me

[swift tree]

Advanced honing gives you a guaranteed item increase every tap. So it’s a good way of giving the user-end idea that any leftover tier 3 mats aren’t being wasted

[vagrant cradle]

my main only has 6.1mil or so right now

[faint grove]

by that logic normal tapping also gives a guaranteed item increase every tap

[swift tree]

It does but it’s more abstract, if that makes sense

[vagrant cradle]

imagine if after you go to t4, advanced honing numbers for mats required per tap stays the same as t3, but just uses t4 mats

[faint grove]

we all know that won't happen

[swift tree]

Adv is a literal line going up. Psychological difference. Since our soup brains prefer visual representations

[faint grove]

considering they allow conversion

they will literally just divide it by 5 and call it a day

[swift tree]

That won’t happen

[vagrant cradle]

i mean i hope that would be the case

but i have my doubts in them

[swift tree]

Probably be a reverse conversion if they don’t change it

[faint grove]

so advanced honing at t3 does seem like the logical choice to not waste shards

we'll see though

[swift tree]

Tier 4 -> convert to T3 bound mats like how you can downgrade eyes

[gleaming pendant]

its the more sensible choice.

you ain't going to have shards for adv honing at t4

[faint grove]

nah it literally says in the latest letter that once you're t4 you have to do t4 advanced honing

[gleaming pendant]

better to save them for tapping gears.

instead of adv honing

[swift tree]

If they don’t outright let you use T4 after swapping

[vagrant cradle]

honestly...if everything is down to 1/5 the original then..maybe slow advanced honing in t4 wont be too bad..

including gold per tap..

[faint grove]

gold wont be 1/5

just mats

[vagrant cradle]

sad times

[swift tree]

I mean that makes sense with gold since they want the gold sink to be constant

[swift tree]

We got 5 more hours, no?

[vagrant cradle]

yeah it's stilla while to go

[burnt tree]

Hopefully extended

Cause im working

[quartz turret]

[dawn yacht]

[vagrant cradle]

also for advanced honing while in t3, i believe we have to burn our solars before t4 as well since we can exchange the solars, right?

so there's solars + shards to burn as a reason to not wait for t4

[dawn yacht]

alice banner gone right ?

[dull obsidian]

ok

rival actually dogwalked to my top mid and jungler all together

nice

1 v 3 top side and we lost

[dawn yacht]

@burnt tree wtf that bitch is a healer

[burnt tree]

Yeah and Cha was added in the normal banner

[dawn yacht]

hopefully game lasts till bellion

[burnt tree]

Probably not.

Ull have to swipe to even get to the point to unlock him probably

Its already bad enough

[dawn yacht]

[burnt tree]

[dawn yacht]

tower event giving selection chests for new artifacts

[burnt tree]

Also odds are you will unlock Bellion after fighting the Monarchs

And they will be pita

[dawn yacht]

[swift tree]

huh Bellion?

[burnt tree]

Hes a character from Solo Leveling

[swift tree]

Yeah

And huh

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/solo-leveling/images/1/17/벨리온1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20210908183510

[bitter lichen]

release date announcement ?

[burnt tree]

Yes him

[swift tree]

Is Solo Levelling KR or JP?

[burnt tree]

Korean mahwa

Its basically the father of the System manhwas

And novels ig

[dawn yacht]

grand marshal bellion

[burnt tree]

Gigachad frfr

[vagrant cradle]

is solo leveling worth watching, like is it a good adaptation or should i just re-read it instead

[swift tree]

Just funny that it looks like Black Knights from Bellion.

in South Vern

[vagrant cradle]

[bitter lichen]

Bellion dn

[swift tree]

https://static.invenglobal.com/img/lostark/dataninfo/cardimage/card_uncommon_06_5.png

Could be a SLA reference in Lost Ark since they devs like hiding literary references and no doubt Solo Levelling is popular (I mean duh, a game was made from it).

[burnt tree]

The anime is better

Mainly cause they focus on world building

And on more characters than Jinwoo

Also the fights so far had been done justice if not done better

[burnt tree]

Tbf Solo Leveling was consistently doing well in Korea. It just started doing well globally since the anime

They are making a board game now xdd

[swift tree]

Yeah just that the manga is from 2018 so it was around when they were designing/writing South Vern.

[burnt tree]

Yeah

@dawn yacht next character

[swift tree]

North Kurzan is level 1600 minimum, huh

So you have to complete the prologues of Behemoth and Echidna that are available from 1580 after doing South Kurzan to get into the North.

[keen copper]

ezpz

[swift tree]

There's infinite chaos for Kenuat Fortress, so you aren't fucked for getting Tier 4 gear

killing a boss first time gets you a selection box for gear, then a % chance onwards

(daily reset)

[bitter lichen]

[uneven mortar]

oh my god so much fucking work

i just want to win lottery and chillax

[bitter lichen]

its only wednesday

[swift tree]

Accessories begin to have "levels" on them

they kinda sounds like what everyone here has been describing echoes are like in Wuwa

lol they're changing Cursed Doll to no longer be Atk Power

[burnt tree]

Yup

Still won't use it

[swift tree]

Ability stone price getting halved

[burnt tree]

Probably cause they are irrelevant unless you want to get higher %

[swift tree]

Can convert gems from level 3 and up

[burnt tree]

Can't convert event gems so ig i gotta get lvl 9s to convert

[swift tree]

yup

[gleaming pendant]

convert event gems

[swift tree]

That's built into the free level 7/8s

[burnt tree]

Hey it would have been nice

[swift tree]

Giving out free level 7s in Tier 3, so you can convert your saved ones

[vernal aurora]

how long MT guys ?

[burnt tree]

Hmmmmm

[swift tree]

Huh, so Kurzan IS Egypt themed

[dawn yacht]

trash and i dont use any fire hunters so not relevant

[uneven mortar]

why ability stone half

priced

[charred void]

amazon where server.gif

[bitter lichen]

[tulip charm]

5-6 hours, surely it will be up in 1 hour

[swift tree]

Earth Cube 💀

Dirt cube

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[uneven mortar]

man

[uneven mortar]

3 million dollar and ima retire

like ima move to sea or someshit

be a pornhub actor

[mortal sluice]

did they mention cube?

[dawn yacht]

[mortal sluice]

in the blog

[swift tree]

The newly added Avni Cube ‘1st Unlock’ can also be challenged when item level 1640 or higher is achieved.

[mortal sluice]

i see

[swift tree]

Avni is Hindu for Earth/Riverbed

So "Dirt Cube"

[mortal sluice]

🪱

[dawn yacht]

[mortal sluice]

okay i looked for a dirt emote

[bitter lichen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147690470185648198.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[mortal sluice]

and it was called dirty

dont blame me

[tulip charm]

Bottom line is if you want early access to sell gems or upgrade your own gems, you need to get your ass to 1640 asap on t4 launch

[mortal sluice]

i couldnt see

[dawn yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147690470185648198.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[swift tree]

There's weekly public ranking system that looks like a replacement of Tulubik's Rowen Rank

[uneven mortar]

ima be 1-2 mains enjoyer

im too old for this shit

[tulip charm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/963192407166423110/1016496118156243015/0a7a58f476e6757220d0f1d45f0910f20c189c80.gif

[mortal sluice]

damn new login screen is sick

[uneven mortar]

i just want full 10 25 wep t4

is that too much to ask

[mortal sluice]

yes

it is

[charred void]

on your 6 mains obviously

[bitter lichen]

i just want to be happy

[swift tree]

'Kurzan Fort Public System' calculated via new chaos i.e. "Operation Abydos" + Kenuat Fort + Aegeoros (new Guardian) + Avni Cube + Chaos Gate + Echidna + Behemoth

[bitter lichen]

[dawn yacht]

overrated

[uneven mortar]

dropping to 2 atm

[charred void]

thats not how you supposed to play lost ark

you need 6x 1630 right now

[uneven mortar]

ill prolly get jailed on new raids

[mortal sluice]

esther 10 iam dropping to 1

[uneven mortar]

but who cares

[swift tree]

Anyone know what "Pieces of Destiny" is?

[uneven mortar]

gatekept

[burnt tree]

I'll worry about it later. Just need to get +19 on one more piece then Adv. Honing

[mortal sluice]

where does it say

[sand marsh]

when serber up

[swift tree]

"Content Moderation and Pieces of Destiny"

"First, gold will be removed from Pieces of Destiny obtained from content below item level 1540"

[sand marsh]

fate ember

[swift tree]

Oh

[strange shadow]

Fate Embers probably

[charred void]

soon gatekeepers won't know what to gatekeep anymore since nobody even plays/applies to their lobbies anymore

[swift tree]

Fate Embers

Gold is being removed from Tier 3 Fate Embers below 1540

oof

[strange shadow]

below 1540

[mortal sluice]

makes sense

[charred void]

1540+ is still t3

[uneven mortar]

yeah alot of people is taking a break

[tulip charm]

The system is designed for people to slowly convert from t3 to t4 gradually, it’s suppose to take months

[swift tree]

Nevermind, that's actually really good. No bots getting it

[sullen plaza]

meh

[uneven mortar]

not sure if its temp or permanent

[cedar zealot]

The flow looks good

[swift tree]

I misread that as 1640

was gonna say

[charred void]

modern gamers HATE the word "slowly"

[tulip charm]

But surely NAw day 1 everyone will have lv 11 gems and 120q weapons, and by week 2 everyone will be complaining

[mortal sluice]

there is no more 120q

[burnt tree]

Yeah that got cancelled

Quality will transfer to 100 and won't go higher in T4 equips

[charred void]

and how am i supposed to get out of blue quality hell now?