lost-ark-discussions

[buoyant wagon]

bearable

[wind dagger]

[robust birch]

Where are u getting 1.7m for 200

Any linkers

[buoyant wagon]

oh wait that was 1.35m

[wind dagger]

I just want my gems

uhm

[buoyant wagon]

1.7m is closer to 250-260

[wind dagger]

converted

[buoyant wagon]

eh not the end of the world

something like $2.5k for a full set of 10s

[robust birch]

No linkers I guess

[urban obsidian]

Still more dmg increase than 25k for Esther 9/10

[wind dagger]

Sidereal 9/10?

KR getting that?

[buoyant wagon]

2.5k and it will last for years

[wind dagger]

[urban obsidian]

I wonder if they’re gonna give 10 more abilities

[buoyant wagon]

honestly gems dont bother me as much as almost certainly having to cut a new rock

you can guarantee gems with money

[urban obsidian]

We still dunno how the new rocks are gonna work

[buoyant wagon]

and now that guild deposit got nuked

[urban obsidian]

But it seems like it’s a force grudge 9 angle

[buoyant wagon]

9/7 services are probably dead

[urban obsidian]

And that’s kinda fucked

[buoyant wagon]

inb4 it's reroll to china angle

[urban obsidian]

Low key it’s always been a reroll to cn angle

[fervent ibex]

9/7 services??

[queen grail]

S-Tier Baruka is impossible to do @burnt tree @tidal sleet

[fervent ibex]

wtf is a 9/7 service

[buoyant wagon]

i would if i didnt have to give up such a heavily invested character here

[urban obsidian]

Pay gold ppl cut 9/7 for u

[fervent ibex]

???

[buoyant wagon]

seller keeps giving you gold until you hit a 9/7

[fervent ibex]

LOL???

these "ppl" got a higher chance of cutting than me or what

[buoyant wagon]

it's how most whales in CN have 9/7s

[fervent ibex]

CN willing to pay for anything that gets them out of playing the game

[buoyant wagon]

rocks arent even playing the game

they are the closest thing to a rng simulator

[fervent ibex]

sooo its a part of the game?

[buoyant wagon]

not a very fun part of it

or one that requires skill

i'd do the same also

[fervent ibex]

big spenders sheesh

gold to spare

[buoyant wagon]

it's like

$1k (probably less) in CN now

for a 9/7 of your choice

[burnt tree]

yeah they become a pain

[fervent ibex]

why'd you type that out like its a normal thing

[fervent ibex]

why arent you typing it out like thats one of the most absurd things you've ever heard

cuz that do be absurd

[tulip charm]

it’s cn, they pay pilot to do fever time and login rewards prob

[buoyant wagon]

because it also costs over $1k in gold to cut a 9/7 here on average lol

are you under any illusions that pretty much everything in this game has been able to be bought with money

[fervent ibex]

so on top of paying for the rocks, you're also paying for someone to just click for you

$1k + $1k

?

[buoyant wagon]

no

you are just paying for the gold

in some cases, the seller is clicking for you, in other cases, you click yourself

[fervent ibex]

ohhhh so ur just RMTing gotcha

made it sound like u guys lost ur hands in the war

[buoyant wagon]

lots of people just leave it to the seller because clicking through hundreds and possibly thousands of stones is a pain in the ass

which is why on chinese streaming sites, there's usually some rock cutting streams going on

[queen grail]

I'm broke @burnt tree @tidal sleet It's jover.

[fervent ibex]

rock cutting streams

as if gambling streams werent boring enough

[nova garden]

wtf

[tulip charm]

Also no coomer skins on cn

[buoyant wagon]

the streams are basically ads

[nova garden]

how did you spend all that gold they gave us a while ago

[buoyant wagon]

their entire overlay is a list of their prices

and streaming it is proof they are carrying out the service

[queen grail]

Upgrading a ton of gear

And leveling all units etc.

But It's fine, gold will come back soon

[marsh ravine]

how much for a 10 10 stone

i go ask my mom if she can get me for my birthday

[queen grail]

25 million gold? maybe more.

Or, more like 50mil+

[dawn yacht]

just dodge his lethal attack

[buoyant wagon]

probably more gold than there is in the entire game

[marsh ravine]

ok i just need about 50mil more gold then

[buoyant wagon]

i forgot the odds but the numbers were several times more unlikely than winning the lottery

[queen grail]

I don't have the damage.

The damage he does is not the biggest issue.

[dawn yacht]

[queen grail]

It's also shadow.

I have zero good shadow units.

[fervent ibex]

ok thats absolute ass but a 4/4

[marsh ravine]

i gotta look for a 2nd job i think

[vagrant cradle]

[dawn yacht]

igris

[buoyant wagon]

okay nvm it's only like 2.5 times more unlikely than winning the powerball

10/10 stone is around 1 in 780 million

[queen grail]

Not that shadow, the element shadow you doffus.

[tulip charm]

Do people even play gs on cn? Since no skins

[buoyant wagon]

uh, yeah?

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/masive-skill-issue-skill-issue-yakudza-gif-14004060172467418456

[buoyant wagon]

before getting to pheon costs

[queen grail]

Give me shadow units!

[buoyant wagon]

if you were to cut 780 million rocks, at 1.5k per rock

[deft belfry]

My souleater is getting hardcore fucked on elixirs

[dawn yacht]

no lee bora ?

[deft belfry]

How do i uninstall the game

[buoyant wagon]

that's 1,170,000,000,000 gold not counting pheon costs

[deft belfry]

[burnt tree]

loan me gold

[queen grail]

Nope

[stark thicket]

adriel is back to being a loa gamer

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/963486158954844170.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

[dawn yacht]

[queen grail]

I hope you fall on your way to work into a big puddle of mud water

[buoyant wagon]

if every 100 pheons cost 31k gold

[marsh ravine]

im pretty sure i've cut some of the worst stones imaginable, like it was prbly the same probability as 9 7 big yiker 75% failfailifalfialfail

[buoyant wagon]

it would be 2,176,200,000,000 in pheons

[dawn yacht]

i hope you hit your toe

[stark thicket]

[tulip charm]

There is no recorded history of a 1010 rock I think, there is a 10/9 recorded

[buoyant wagon]

3.35 trillion gold to cut a 10/10 rock on average

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-kiss-anime-2girls-gif-27601429

[deft belfry]

Meh fuck stones, i probably bet they’ll be giga cancer in t4

[burnt tree]

show the next scene

[deft belfry]

10/10 for 2% extra damage

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-punch-gif-26310880

[burnt tree]

u dont need stones to 6x3 so

it just becomes a min max system for weirdgas

[marsh ravine]

'recorded history' meaning u didnt see someone post it on reddit? or like some api data mining for sure for sure?

[burnt tree]

theres a 10/10 on CN

[buoyant wagon]

it's shopped

[burnt tree]

oh

regardless high lvl stone not needed

[charred void]

guys is this rare?

[buoyant wagon]

there are like 4 or so 10/9s in our region

[burnt tree]

ive seen a 10/9

last year

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-kissing-anime-girl-gif-1311074305415353232

[buoyant wagon]

there is a 10/9 cd/adr on a paladin

2 10/9s were posted on reddit iirc

[marsh ravine]

more than likely it was a bot rolling its 1 and only stone it will ever have till it gets banned

[buoyant wagon]

i think one was in NAW and the account was sold

for something north of 10k near launch

it was a gunslinger

[charred void]

poggers

[burnt tree]

10/9 is PM2 right?

[buoyant wagon]

yeah

[burnt tree]

bis boi

[buoyant wagon]

you need 9/9 minimum to run class engraving 2

[marsh ravine]

damn 10k not gonna get u close to taht 2,000,000,0000,0000,000 pheons thats a bargain

[charred void]

you forgot some 0s

[deft belfry]

Seems worth

[marsh ravine]

i got i think 23 characters and one of the few i dont have and actively dont want is gunslinger thats rough

[charred void]

ye gunslinger is at the bottom

[marsh ravine]

poor ss there too sadge xD

i dont blame u though haha

[wind dagger]

nah

[ancient tundra]

@burnt tree we disbanded

[burnt tree]

damn u were in there long

g3?

[deft belfry]

How do i feel better after cutting 20 elixirs this week on my SE and I’m still at 36 set with 5/1 and 5/2 on my set pieces and 4 times where exhaust 0-4 has fucked me

[charred void]

did you clear g2?

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-honkai-star-rail-dance-yurushite-neko-gif-12314441572980520540

[deft belfry]

Oh naur not genshit

[burnt tree]

thats Honkai Star Rail, not genshit

genshit is shit

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[deft belfry]

All gachas are the same pos

[burnt tree]

so many idiots nowadays

[quartz turret]

When u spend millions of gold on ur gs just to get gapped by breaker with event gems and engraving

[burnt tree]

[deft belfry]

Real

[ancient tundra]

g2

we lose ppl

[burnt tree]

u play lost ark and u were just doing elixirs u cant say that

[burnt tree]

F

[deft belfry]

When you see that half the 1620 breakers are barely getting close to double digit dps

[ancient tundra]

what s priority for dps for trans btw ?

[burnt tree]

chest

[charred void]

gl finding people for g2 thaemine

[ancient tundra]

ty

[quartz turret]

At least gacha games aren’t dead genre

[ancient tundra]

it s fine

[burnt tree]

chest>shoulder>forgot

[deft belfry]

Had to bus akkan with an 8m dps 1620 breaker (with lvl 10 gems)

[ancient tundra]

i just wanted exp

i got exp

[burnt tree]

wed probably clear g2 if we did thaemine this week with clannies 😔

but no runs

[charred void]

think my control glaivier at 1587 is doing like 11m

[deft belfry]

You’re jailed on g2 nm or hm?

[burnt tree]

nm

[tulip charm]

I would say that’s pretty average, it’s common to gain access to elixirs, get 35 week 1, then taking 3 to 4 weeks to finish 40

[burnt tree]

he just got 1610 xdd

[tulip charm]

That’s assuming u got screwed on class pieces and bought purples to make 42 class pieces

[deft belfry]

I’ll remember your handle, if i get any of my chars g2 jailed i’ll drag u with me

[robust birch]

Exp a clear

[kind geyser]

did u guys sell ur gems or nah

[quartz turret]

[deft belfry]

My class pieces are my worst 2 it’s gonna be depressing getting to 40 set

[fresh flint]

No I bought them

[charred void]

ofc i sold

[wintry depot]

Most of my chars have event gems so no

[deft belfry]

Esp the shit groups i end up joining since i got no 40 set

[kind geyser]

nice

[deft belfry]

Nah, I bought some at 200k

[robust birch]

That's a wacky lvl2 gem sale

[charred void]

ye some idiot bought that

[deft belfry]

Now my 3 biggest dps chars have full lvl 10 dmg gems and lvl 9 cds

[kind geyser]

suske lv 2 gem

[quartz turret]

[ancient tundra]

nm

[deft belfry]

I’ll dm u if i get jailed as well

Shouldn’t be hard to get a g2 clear group anyways

[ancient tundra]

don t jinx yourself

[buoyant wagon]

4 akkan lobbies up in a sunday afternoon

[ancient tundra]

[buoyant wagon]

alive game

[quartz turret]

[deft belfry]

Dw

Last week i ended up bussing 4 monkeys to the finish line

[ancient tundra]

i went in thaemine at least

[quartz turret]

My se was jailed on Wednesday and I’m still trying to spot a g2 group

[charred void]

[deft belfry]

I legit get so mad right now at the end of raids

[robust birch]

Crazy how so many people been quitting lately and I haven't seen any lvl10 gems in my mail yet

[deft belfry]

That I started being toxic

[buoyant wagon]

pog 6 in EU

[deft belfry]

Like 1 pull i just let the boss push me out

Because 4 people had under 5m dps

In g2

Like

What the fuck

X10 reclear my ass, you mfers have been getting bussed since releaae

[wintry depot]

Thaemine?

[deft belfry]

Yea

[quartz turret]

Raid quality had been getting worse lately

[wintry depot]

Yeah x10 lobbies now are sad

[buoyant wagon]

what do you expect

all the good players are done and chilling

or quit

it's just the shitters left

[burnt tree]

it do be late tho

[wintry depot]

More people got title so lot of shitters

[deft belfry]

Meh i just wanna do g1-2 runs so i can bus g3

[buoyant wagon]

g1-g2 runs are a trap

[deft belfry]

I don’t wanna bus g1-3 as 4man it’s so aids

[buoyant wagon]

because the only people who do 1-2 and no 3 are typically people who are too bad to run 3

which means they are subpar players

[deft belfry]

I’ll just do g1-3 lobbies and alt f4 after g2

[tulip charm]

Akkans been dogshit the last 2 weeks, thaemine is solid on 1620 pts, and voldis finally no supp shortage

[marsh ravine]

well the events insta boost everyone that just dl'ed the game to current content basically...and roster xp not hard to get - i been 300 for over a year at least...its harder to tell the noobs from the average-at-least-somewhat-competent-players

[quartz turret]

Imagine complaining about shitters when ur literally the one bussing them to 10x title

[deft belfry]

i gotta get dat bag

It’s why i don’t care about titles, I only inspect characters

[quartz turret]

This weeks raid had been couple of wipes minimum

[deft belfry]

My weekly akkan nms

Are the reason i wanna quit

Still have 2x 1580 chars that i’m throwing out next expresses

[quartz turret]

Raids just taking too long

I wanna play other games and have a life too

[charred void]

just play 1 character?

[deft belfry]

I mean I have 3x voldis hm, despite me hating that raid it’s been goin pretty fast

[marsh ravine]

i remember when i had a life

i think it was fun i forget

[deft belfry]

• I’m taking a 6week break soon since I’m traveling

[buoyant wagon]

1 character increasingly looks like the solution when you realize your weekly raid gold is worth like $30

[azure valley]

when you meta chase instead of playing what you find fun

[buoyant wagon]

and the raids aren't even fun at this point, just old ass homework you've done hundreds of times over

[deft belfry]

Real ngl

[quartz turret]

What if u have fun chasing meta

[buoyant wagon]

if the raids were still fresh and fun, the time vs money consideration wouldnt even be there

[tulip charm]

U gotta be careful also in g3h thamine, I went in for a warmup before static run, it was a reclear group but people at most people only got 1 20, reclear because sword prog as usual

[azure valley]

hope you have a credit card

[buoyant wagon]

thaemine is the only "fun" raid left if you have hands

[deft belfry]

At this point i just bus thaemine for fun and call it a day

[tulip charm]

I think some people bought buss for g3h and they are impostering

[quartz turret]

Thaemine hm is prob only raid that’s still fun

[burnt tree]

chasing meta is only for those that can afford it

[deft belfry]

Thaemine g3-4*

[quartz turret]

[deft belfry]

G1-2 are a mistake

[buoyant wagon]

2 months ago i was still doing like 15 raids a week

now, it's just "why even bother"

[burnt tree]

g1 or g2 should get deleto tbh

[buoyant wagon]

committing like 10 hours a week for $30 worth of gold

not to mention the dailies

[azure valley]

I’ve said it forever, literal bozo doing shit you don’t want to do

[deft belfry]

Yeah, no point doing shit you don’t like for 10-20k extra gold ngl

[azure valley]

if you swipe $100 a week and do no raids you come out ahead

[quartz turret]

Just remove all g1

[buoyant wagon]

people will say why even play when you are just spending

but playing feels so incredibly shit and a waste of time

on stale content that is more of a chore than a hobby

[tawny lion]

true

[azure valley]

I mean just do whatever you want to do and don’t worry about not doing shit you don’t want to do

[buoyant wagon]

pretty much that

[deft belfry]

It depends, with friends any raid is fun

[tawny lion]

i have fun doing 1 voldis, 1 akkan a week. everything else feels like homework

[buoyant wagon]

which is why i just log on to do dailies on main, do 3 raids a week

[azure valley]

I have fun doing hw with static, but I’m not about to go pug an akkan for gold

[buoyant wagon]

then fuck off and go play on Taiwan

[deft belfry]

Why even play taiwan

[buoyant wagon]

honestly should really start FF14 back up to finish msq

[charred void]

i've spend this week more on food than on lost ark playing for 26 months

[buoyant wagon]

friends there

and teaching people

[deft belfry]

Mfw i’m explaining valtan orbs in mandarin

[tulip charm]

[tawny lion]

breaker is stronk

as long as i crit

[buoyant wagon]

current state of the game is just swipe credit card for gold and fuck doing all your gold earning activities

[marsh ravine]

^

[buoyant wagon]

that way the game can still be somewhat enjoyed as a hobby

rather than working a second job

[charred void]

like this?

[buoyant wagon]

looks like my roster

1650 and 5 1600s

[quartz turret]

One char is the way to go

[buoyant wagon]

though one character only really works if you are swiping and slimmed down from a larger roster

[deft belfry]

Me reading this as I’m doing elixirs on my 3rd 1620+ char

[cedar zealot]

One main that is a sup

[buoyant wagon]

1 character from start to end without spending starts to not be sustainable once you hit ivory

[quartz turret]

[marsh ravine]

playing alts etc still a fun chill way to pass the time if u in the right mood for it

[deft belfry]

Playing alts is fun because i like playing multiple roles

[stark thicket]

right

[deft belfry]

Got FA/BA/HM and i’m cooking up a supp

And pretty much gonna lay casually til September anyways

[tulip charm]

Some people their lost ark experience is just prog g4 for infinite jail

[buoyant wagon]

taiwan is my alt now

[fresh flint]

@sand marsh

[buoyant wagon]

even though it's pretty much just log on, do dailies, run some other shit, then spend the rest of the time teaching people how to play in discord

[charred void]

weird way to describe piloting

[buoyant wagon]

havent piloted anyone there actually

[quartz turret]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-punch-gif-16287607886277446870

[buoyant wagon]

what's there even to pilot

argos?

normal valtan?

well, the top ilvl in my guild got piloted for hm valtan

[marsh ravine]

need prokel

[tulip charm]

We get additional news on the 10th right?

Imagine if they did t4 gem revert

[fresh flint]

yes

[sand marsh]

bruuuuh

[fresh flint]

yep

logged off, ill have to finish this piece tomorrow

[tulip charm]

Can they clear Brel g6/g4?

[buoyant wagon]

?????

bruh the server has been out for 10 days

[fresh flint]

ive done everything possible for silver

[sand marsh]

np

[buoyant wagon]

you think there's brel?

[fresh flint]

Even got more cube tickets

[tulip charm]

Oh

[fresh flint]

[sand marsh]

I can bring my thicc juicy 1633 +25 weapon full transcedence paladin to ivory tower hm for you.

[tulip charm]

I thought it came with most of the stuff already

[buoyant wagon]

it came with valtan

and even if it came with brel

do you think anyone would be 1540

even with no credit card limit

[fresh flint]

We did ivory yesterday, I'm stuck on g4

[swift tree]

CN didn’t get Brel for 3 months or so

[buoyant wagon]

there's not enough players to even sustain the amount of mats you'd need to buy to hone there in a week

cn took like 5 months for brel

1 month valtan, vykas 1.5 months after

[marsh ravine]

so many classes impossible to find a useable class engraving ancient piece, just nothing on the market

[buoyant wagon]

TW is valtan at launch, vykas 4 weeks after, clown 1.5 months after

brel TBD but probably late november or december

[stark thicket]

Any chance the next tier of raids will have solo raiding in mind? Or will solo raid just be tier 3

[marsh ravine]

wtb bus for solo raid

[swift tree]

Just Tier 3

[stark thicket]

[stark thicket]

Ok not coming back

[buoyant wagon]

solo raids are meant to be an introductory part to earlier content

[stark thicket]

[swift tree]

?

[buoyant wagon]

not a permanent addition to every raid

[stark thicket]

I want to play solo

[loud gazelle]

Who says?

[deft belfry]

Stay behind on content always then

[buoyant wagon]

because this is a mmorpg and not a single player game?

[loud gazelle]

It maybe only T3 solo raids for now, but who knows in the future. Its going to be a new test for AGS

[buoyant wagon]

[cedar zealot]

they should make all raids outside of the latest 3 raids soloable, otherwise the whole system will become pointless in the future

[stark thicket]

Doesn't mean they can't implement it

[deft belfry]

That’s the case currently, behemoth, echidna, themine top 3 - voldis and under are solo-able

[stark thicket]

Just keep same lockout as group raids

[swift tree]

You can do Tier 4 solo, just until everyone starts getting the Kazeros 1 gear.

[stark thicket]

You have choice

[buoyant wagon]

still costs development resources

[deft belfry]

Bro

[loud gazelle]

Sounds like a pretty good idea. Maybe only newest 2, so solo players are behind but not super behind

[buoyant wagon]

and SG already releases things slow as is

[deft belfry]

Grim Dawn is like $5

[cedar zealot]

so when the next raid after behemoth comes out, SMG should make thaemine have a solo mode, but knowing smg, they will probably do it much later than they should

[deft belfry]

Go play that, it’s solo

And is an ARPG too

[cedar zealot]

nice straw man

[swift tree]

They’ll wait until After-Kazeros … like Procyon Raid to add solo “Red Moon Raids”

[tawny lion]

mayeb i should try ff14

[stark thicket]

they would rather give CEO 500 million bonus than spend a week having someone code it out

[swift tree]

Grim Dawn kinda eepy

[stark thicket]

[loud gazelle]

Makes the most sense if the newest raid its party and all others are solo/party. So if a new raid comes out, the last one gets solo mode

[deft belfry]

I don’t get why would you play an mmorpg to solo play the game

[buoyant wagon]

takes longer than a week to develop solo raids

it's months of work

[stark thicket]

Smh

[cedar zealot]

people play mmos to play with others but the design of lost ark is unwelcoming to new/returning players

its a game design issue

[loud gazelle]

For me personally, I work full time and have less raid time available. I still need gold, so solo mode would be awesome. 30 minutes here, 1 hour there. Still keeping up.

[swift tree]

Which is why they’re shaking up the progression model

[deft belfry]

Which is why old raids are gonna be solo, so new/returning players can play

[swift tree]

Just need to do proper maintenance this time around

[deft belfry]

Or are new players gonna be doing behemoth week 1 lmao?

[stark thicket]

Who the fuck wants to be a whole tier behind

[tawny lion]

no one

[cedar zealot]

which is why i mentioned it should not be a one and done thing and something smg need to spend some of their budget on for the future as well

[urban obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

they dont really need new players that badly in KR though lol

[swift tree]

Tbh, Season 2 had better long-term progression than Season 1…. which is saying something. They are at least learning from mistakes

[urban obsidian]

Which if it’s successful they will

[buoyant wagon]

their core playerbase makes them enough money

[teal thistle]

T3 only so far, but people on kr assume they will keep updating solo mode eventually

[buoyant wagon]

if new players prove to not make them enough money to justify the development time and costs

[deft belfry]

Who said they aren’t ? Are you just assuming they won’t release solo raids after voldis?

[buoyant wagon]

you'll see solo content being another abandoned feature in a year

[urban obsidian]

Probably

[cedar zealot]

i hope so, i dont want to see SMG release 3 more new raids for endgame players and new/returning players are still stuck with voldis being the latest raid they can solo in a year

[teal thistle]

If solo mode goes well they will keep updating it, its a test right now

[stark thicket]

People like solo content

[teal thistle]

they said something liek that

[swift tree]

New characters/slots in existing rosters to sell space for RC is an incentive to make the new character experience better.

[tawny lion]

but not being a whole tier behind

[stark thicket]

Don't have to deal with gatekeepingy

[buoyant wagon]

character expansion money is a drop in the bucket

[cedar zealot]

it cuts into their profits yeah

[teal thistle]

Solo mode is meant for new players to be able to farm gold and play the game while they learn the mechanics for them to be able to do group mode later

Thats the "goal"

[deft belfry]

People think the point of solo mode was to allow new players to solo end game content apparently

[tawny lion]

i guess that work for korea

[deft belfry]

[buoyant wagon]

in 1-2 more years, we'll probably be back at the same point again

[tawny lion]

it doesnt work anywhere except korea

[teal thistle]

yeh they dentge

[stark thicket]

Ahh, but you are learning mechanics for tier 3 raids while everyone is off in tier 4

[buoyant wagon]

e.g. new players extremely behind

[tawny lion]

be fr this game eos in 2 years in the west (not korea)

[teal thistle]

why

[buoyant wagon]

and SG will forget about the issues

then 3 years later another LOAON finally addresses them

[teal thistle]

Most mechanics are literally the same, end game raids have mechanics from argos lmao

[deft belfry]

Not like mechanics in this game aren’t built on top of each other at all lmao

[cedar zealot]

thats why i suggest anything below the 3 latest raids at any given point in the future should have a solo mode

[buoyant wagon]

eh

[stark thicket]

who are you

[teal thistle]

Im pretty sure thats the goal IF it do well in kr

[stark thicket]

[buoyant wagon]

early legion raids barely teach you shit about recent raids

[tulip charm]

Pretty much this, I wonder if people can’t complete solo raids who are they gonna blame next

[tawny lion]

smilegate

[deft belfry]

Wait what was that pattern name again in the last raid released ? I think it was called albion, is that from the t3 abyssal? Nah idk shit about that man

[charred void]

pacman?

[buoyant wagon]

this game does a very poor job of having older content prepare you for newer content

[cedar zealot]

at least it gives people who are slower to catch up on content something to look forward to and work towards. having goals and experiencing vertical progression is part of the hook for this game

[teal thistle]

kekw

[charred void]

pizza, donut?

[cedar zealot]

atm a new player cant experience that cause they get gatekept to oblivion

or get carried

[teal thistle]

bro old raids have the same mechs as new raids

[tulip charm]

Like if they fail raids now they blame supp/dead guy, but if it’s solo raid they fail who to blame

[buoyant wagon]

pizza is like the only major recurring pattern along with slam with outer aoe

[deft belfry]

They’re literally the same

[teal thistle]

in-out, pizza, counter :v

[buoyant wagon]

those dont really count lmao, those are basic mechs in any raiding mmo

[teal thistle]

Thats all you need

[marsh ravine]

how well we prepare for the latest content is directly proportional to the size of our bank accounts i think

[buoyant wagon]

minus counter

[teal thistle]

Exactly thats all you need to know, after that you lean the "mechanic" of the new raid and thats it

[stark thicket]

I don't see a reason to come back if all these changes only affect tier 3. It's going to be the exact same shit in tier, except you have to whale all over again. It's a cash grab if you ask me.

[teal thistle]

Raids have like 1 "new mech" and thats it

You learn that and you are done

[tawny lion]

its a cash grab if you ask anyone who isnt a streamer who's job depends on lost ark content

[charred void]

whats not a cash grab game

[deft belfry]

Mfw the game is supposed to make money

[teal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/dented-pepe-dentge-meme-hit-gif-15873918808390144538

[high fog]

bad decisions were made today

[kind oriole]

What cash grab

[ancient tundra]

@burnt tree ok this might be evil I kinda laugh a bit when I see someone just fall off in g2

[high fog]

very bad decisions

[burnt tree]

xdd

[deft belfry]

Always funny

[teal thistle]

NOOO game devs make games so we can have fun they don't want money TuT they want to waste their money on workers, servers, etc to not get a single dollar TuT

[fast dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1242192765383741590.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[deft belfry]

Especially when it’s that fuck u laser

[ancient tundra]

It s just the way they fall

Wee

[teal thistle]

46 gold

[ancient tundra]

[urban obsidian]

ALBCARD 1630 POG

[marsh ravine]

did u accidentally lock your armor

[tawny lion]

there's a difference between making money in a sustainable way vs squeezing the final milk of whales and enticing casuals to buy skins leaving the semi-hardcore players to burn

[high fog]

i hav 2 groups who asked me to run echidna hard

[kind oriole]

I see mate u already ready for t4 with that such amount of gold

[high fog]

so i have to have 2 echidna hard chars

:d

[deft belfry]

How are they leaving anyone to burn?

[ancient tundra]

Tomorrow we agreed to meet again

[teal thistle]

Some people are just Dentge

[ancient tundra]

Surely g3

[buoyant wagon]

kmmo and making money the sustainable way

good joke

[stark thicket]

Some unknown faces defending sg nutsack

[tawny lion]

oh i dont know, every non whale who plays semi-hardcore and have to redo all their shit

[charred void]

ye, lost ark managed to grab 160€ from me because the game is sooo good, some random ass gacha game few years ago on mobile grabbed almost 3k

[tawny lion]

we just barely caught up to whales power

[buoyant wagon]

you know what, ironically korean gachas make money more sustainably

[teal thistle]

redo all their shit?

What?

[tawny lion]

on ONE character

[prime wind]

no lifers can smd

[deft belfry]

An MMO that had a new progression unlocked and now you have to engage with it? No way

[buoyant wagon]

destiny child, blue archive, nikke are all known to be incredibly f2p friendly

[teal thistle]

So?

[prime wind]

no one asked them to play 24 chars 12 hrs a day

[tawny lion]

nikke is very f2p friendly

[teal thistle]

Why do you expect to be at the same level as someone who spend 348928374$?

o3o

[tawny lion]

i have literally every nikke and never swiped

[buoyant wagon]

then you have shit like king's raid so i guess that's not always true

[kind oriole]

Nikke? Is that super thicc robot girls game?

[nova garden]

fucking whale

[teal thistle]

nikke is that trash ultra coomer idle game

[nova garden]

suck my pp

[marsh ravine]

thats a conservative estimate timewise, kind of a short day if u ask me ><

[stark thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/847310880018661416.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[tawny lion]

i missed the chainsaw collab tbf

[nova garden]

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/i-would-if-i-could-bitch-pimp-exit-like-fuck-you-okay-just-to-be-clear-laughing-at-you-like-gif-11796257

[nova garden]

i only got makima

[burnt tree]

nice

[tawny lion]

i didnt play during that time sadly have regrets

[ancient tundra]

Wanna join ?

Satho

[kind oriole]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855544880217849876/925377448131035177/5EBF39A5-DCCC-41BE-B31B-C2CFC06A03A5.gif

[ancient tundra]

You are in g2 right ?

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/oruchuban-ebichu-oruchuban-ebichu-phone-call-phone-gif-5225838

[kind oriole]

Ok back to my drinks

[teal thistle]

Do you have them all maxxed out tho?

Did you catch up to the whales there? :v

[nova garden]

max is 10 dupes bro

200 pity

[teal thistle]

Oof

[tawny lion]

i caught up almost everywhere except pvp which i dont consider critical content like raids, elixirs, transcednce

[teal thistle]

So you have EVERYTHING maxxed out?

As a f2p player?

CAPPPP

[tawny lion]

i didnt say that

i can do all content a whale can

except high score in pvp

[teal thistle]

Also PVP is most important shit on gacha games like that one

:v

Thats the only place you can show off

As a whale

[charred void]

leaderboards

[tawny lion]

yeah im top 10 on leaderboards except pvp

[teal thistle]

U can't score as high as a whale tho

[nova garden]

so you've done hard mode ch30?

[teal thistle]

I can also do all content as a whale in lost ark without esther 8

[nova garden]

wtf

[teal thistle]

So whats your point?

[azure valley]

I mean that’s a better reason to play than farming loot to make cents worth of gold

[tawny lion]

esther 8 is gigawhale

[teal thistle]

I can do all content as a f2p

[wintry depot]

cool then go do the first

[nova garden]

these are the ones i don't have plus two collab

[teal thistle]

I don't have the hands to do that

[charred void]

f2p cash grab company hates this guy

[teal thistle]

Yes TuT

[tawny lion]

the xmas units werent that long ago!

[wintry depot]

i thought you could do all content

[teal thistle]

Thats a skill issue tho

[nova garden]

i skipped because i knew i wanted other characters

[teal thistle]

skill and time issue

[tawny lion]

true

[teal thistle]

even as a giga whale its a big time invest to finish the first

[marsh ravine]

i can do all content and when solo raids come out i will get mvps

[teal thistle]

Not everyone can do that

[teal thistle]

MVP SOLO

[nova garden]

didn't get her mlb, but not really needed

[charred void]

ayo

[tawny lion]

no but im top 10 on my leaderboard

rank 1 is just gigachad

[teal thistle]

Prove it

Show the leaderboard

And show the shop

[tawny lion]

sure give me a few min

[teal thistle]

So we can see that you are f2p

Ill wait for it dragon

[nova garden]

rank 1 on my server is a crack head

[buoyant wagon]

[teal thistle]

f2p btw

[marsh ravine]

the smart non-f2p players wont have the shop bought out i think

[frail swallow]

Welp back to 11k astrite on Wuthering

[wintry depot]

im not f2p and im not smart

[marsh ravine]

yea me too

[nova garden]

[teal thistle]

The point is there is NO WAY in any single game where you can spend money to get power to "catch up" to the whales as a f2p

Thats a fact

[charred void]

sounds like every gacha gamer

[frail swallow]

Yinlin took everything from you.

[teal thistle]

as a gacha gamer myself i can confirmt his

[nova garden]

i'm still not done

trying to get her weapon

[urban obsidian]

Just one pull like me

[nova garden]

suck my pp

[frail swallow]

See I'm avoiding that. I want Jinhsi and her weapon

[charred void]

[urban obsidian]

Ok

[quartz turret]

im saving for that white dragon girl

[frail swallow]

Jinhsi

[teal thistle]

gigachadname

[charred void]

almost as good as my breaker

[quartz turret]

ye and if i get lucky im gonna pull for the other girl]

[teal thistle]

You can sell that name in the black market for 10m

[charred void]

probably

wait, i cant do that

that involves buying a rename ticket

[late portal]

@fallen parcel

[charred void]

[late portal]

[fallen parcel]

[late portal]

[charred void]

this you?

[stark thicket]

[fallen parcel]

heh

[stark thicket]

No crying

[late portal]

no more sad

[stark thicket]

[late portal]

im the right one because of all your cookies

[dull obsidian]

@sand marsh ready to bus whenever

[tulip charm]

Depending on the news tmrw, I might retire from lost ark for a few months

[stark thicket]

Gonna be my pillow soon

[late portal]

[charred void]

send gems i have a naw paladin at 1578

[tawny lion]

just come back to behemoth and swipe to catch up. 10 hours of IRL work is enough to pay for 3 months of grinding hw daily

[cedar zealot]

What news?

Oh AGS covering summer Loa fest?

It's gonna be good shit, behemoth on July/August and t4 on September

[teal thistle]

COPE

[hearty gazelle]

T4 and Behemoth are on the same patch so all current 1620s can do it which solves shortages for 1640raid

[teal thistle]

Yeah behemot is saved with t4

[cedar zealot]

Hmm that would be an interesting move, I kinda want them to move t4 and t3 revamp quickly to the west but I thought they wanna release echidna > behemoth first

[kindred ravine]

@wintry crypt omg shut up already

[hearty gazelle]

One 1640 alt from top 3 raids nog4 thaemine gemerates 80k gold ez money to farm

[tawny lion]

which leaderboard did you want to see? hard campaign, manufacturer character upgrade ranking, tribe tower, or manufacturer tower ranking

[teal thistle]

In Ru they are released behemot + t4 so its easier to do that raid

[tulip charm]

If I quit for a few months I will just sell all my gems and sit on the gold, and I play at all I’ll come back to a few raids up to normal akkan on 2x slayer lopang and the supports for ez gold and log off

[cedar zealot]

When is ru getting t4? Next month?

[wintry depot]

september

[teal thistle]

Nope September

t4 + behemott

[tulip charm]

I’d basicly make my lopangs gold earners. Since they have event gems

[swift tree]

*August

[teal thistle]

What?

[swift tree]

Russian gets T4 in August

[cedar zealot]

[hearty gazelle]

September but their echidna is july outs is in two weeks we are a month ahead of them

[tulip charm]

Are you back btw

[cedar zealot]

Hmm there is a possibility we get t4 a month earlier too. Guess we will know tomorrow

[wintry depot]

september

[tawny lion]

we need t4 asap

[swift tree]

nvm, forgot about Style Book bs

[teal thistle]

+1

[ancient tundra]

Style book ?

[hearty gazelle]

Yes and so many ex customers now imposter as real players in thaemine makes me sick during the day is so ded game no lobbies

[swift tree]

Sharing presets

[ancient tundra]

Like bdo

?

[wintry depot]

books ingame that shares presets

so no need inven or discord anymore

[charred void]

cool but

bdo had infinite character custom on every character in the roster inside their "crystal aura"

[nova garden]

that's also why none of the new kr presets work in our version

[wintry crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-crying-kitten-crying-05starrynight-gif-10141647709992578610

[charred void]

here you pay 8$ for 1 character custom once

[dawn yacht]

they about to start fighting

[charred void]

[kindred ravine]

AWWW GONNA CRY BIG BABY

[sand marsh]

ok

doing chaos assault rq

[wintry crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-look-anime-stare-gif-16552688

I will kill you

slowly

[dawn yacht]

they are good for a manga thats basically kengan ashura but only with woman

[kindred ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-emperor-do-it-go-for-it-gif-17446081

[kindred ravine]

WAITING

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/good-burger-some-of-these-gif-12933391

[dull obsidian]

I can fix her

[teal thistle]

1:04 to 1:35
"there is some super exciting stuff that is gonna be coming later in the year that we are really excited to announce we are not quite ready for it yet" (they said this early May)
"We are working really hard to make sure that the west gets content from kr SOONER THAN EVER BEFORE"
https://youtu.be/mJY67tAfqFE?si=lbb37aXeguF4jgsE&t=66

[wintry crypt]

Ill kill you after I watch new episode

[teal thistle]

Sooner than ever

keyword

[nova garden]

slowly but surely

[kindred ravine]

NO FUCK THAT EPISODE

WE NEED TO PLAY

[swift tree]

We'll probably get Solo Tier 3 in July

[dawn yacht]

you hyped to get tortured by ex army lady ?

[swift tree]

maybe Tier 4 for August if we're lucky but I doubt we'd be faster than RU

[charred void]

yes

[kindred ravine]

why not? they just know their stuff

[teal thistle]

Im curious about that statement, sooner than ever sounds like they will make us catch up to kr

They even did

[charred void]

can i get motor instead of water boarding?

[teal thistle]

The sourvey

[kindred ravine]

i'll be tortured by tons of losses in ARAM because of icy's inting

[dawn yacht]

cuz you will suffer more then you gonna be enjoying it

[swift tree]

Would have to have same raids out as KR already to be "caught up"

We don't have Behemoth

[wintry depot]

they cant catch up to kr just because of all the translate

[ancient tundra]

@kindred ravine did you see xbox showcase highlights ?

[tulip charm]

Just join 1620 lobbies only lol

[wintry depot]

and localisation problems

[ancient tundra]

@dawn yacht bo6 trailer

[tulip charm]

and why aren’t u running with everybody else

[hearty gazelle]

@tulip charm if you planning to go vacation rmt they ban you come back millionare

[wintry depot]

we can close the distance but not be same patch as them

[ancient tundra]

[kindred ravine]

i peaked at the titles after it. i'm only hyped for the MGS3. but no info was really shown

bo6 looks really nice

[ancient tundra]

Ikr

[teal thistle]

Do you remember the sourvey? they asked something like "do you want to have raids at the same time as kr" then you add this "we will get content to the west sooner than ever before"

[tulip charm]

Nty, that’s not me lol

[hearty gazelle]

There are no lobbies last few days when I check

[kindred ravine]

i saw they showed ANOTHER overwatch clone too @ancient tundra

[ancient tundra]

I m hyped about Indiana Jones

I hope it s gonna be like uncharted

[dawn yacht]

did you see DOOM Dark ages trailer ? doom guy has a gun using skulls as ammo

[ancient tundra]

Good

[swift tree]

We'd have to get Behemoth AND Kazeros 1 released in July

I don't see that happening

[ancient tundra]

I just finished watching

Was in thaemine for idk how long

Lmao

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-slayer-xbox-gif-4371316859273993709

[ancient tundra]

4 hours or 3

[kindred ravine]

bo6 and MGS3 only stuff i even know from the stuff, aside from mechabreak which i'm hyped for

[ancient tundra]

Metal gear gonna cook

[teal thistle]

Thats possible, it actually depends on the kazeros raid ilvl, if it is 1650 i could see it happening, or maybe they release behemot at august - kazeros at september, or something

[tulip charm]

If I ever do become a swiper I’ll learn how to open a clothing shop

[kindred ravine]

it looks so insanely good. I played the original a good bit

[sand marsh]

@dull obsidian m ready

[ancient tundra]

You played mgs5 ?

[kindred ravine]

but all that shit in BO6 lets fucking goooo. no more goofy ass prone

[kindred ravine]

nah i didn't

[dull obsidian]

k lez go

which one

[ancient tundra]

What did they remove

[kindred ravine]

MGS3 ps2 was last MGS i played

[ancient tundra]

From bs

Black ops

Mechs

[dawn yacht]

the redeemer

[kindred ravine]

THE REDEEMERRRR

[fast dome]

thanks for reminding me

[kindred ravine]

you can actually go 360 prone, and you're not laying around flat the entire time

[fast dome]

bro

[kindred ravine]

your character turns

[fast dome]

i killed like

200 wind 1 cost

[ancient tundra]

Yooooo

[fast dome]

i got 0 usable ones

[kindred ravine]

you can also dolphin dive in any direction

[ancient tundra]

How long did it take them

10 years ?

[fast dome]

actual insanity

[ancient tundra]

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

[kindred ravine]

rc-xd is back

[ancient tundra]

Time to blow up kim

With it

[kindred ravine]

[ancient tundra]

[dim lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-fast-lick-cute-cat-cats-gif-27624519

[kindred ravine]

16 multiplayer maps on release

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-fast-lick-cute-cat-cats-gif-27624519

[dull obsidian]

@sand marsh which one are we running

[fast dome]

fusion warriors, aero warriors, whiff whaffs, sabyr boars, roseshrooms

idk how many i killed of these mfs

[swift tree]

Aegir Raid is 1640 apparently

1640/1660 most likely

[kindred ravine]

we're back to the ORIGINAL prestige system. with a secret unlock at Master Prestige Lv1000 (they have 10 levels of prestige)

[burnt tree]

[dawn yacht]

i will re awaken my ninja skills from bo2 and its over for you you will get knifed

[burnt tree]

adv honing comin in clutch

[ancient tundra]

Satho u mf

[burnt tree]

?

[ancient tundra]

I asked u if u wanted to.join

Tomorrow

G2 prog

[burnt tree]

join what

how?

[ancient tundra]

[burnt tree]

i havent done g1

[swift tree]

? You dont even need adv honing.

[ancient tundra]

Ah

[dawn yacht]

no way

[ancient tundra]

I tought u were

In g2

My bad bro

[burnt tree]

no i said

we didnt raid this week

[teal thistle]

Yeh

So we could get

A double raid release

[burnt tree]

[ancient tundra]

All gut

[teal thistle]

Behemot + kazeros same day

:v

or 1 month after

[ancient tundra]

Wait it s true lmao

U actually don t

[swift tree]

1620 -> 1640 immediately

[ancient tundra]

[kindred ravine]

the campaign is set in the 90s

[burnt tree]

no i mean, if u add echidnussy u get 1660 right away right?

[swift tree]

You can advanced hone Echidna stuff with Tier 4 materials

[teal thistle]

August Behemot + t4 - September Kazeros MARK MY WORDS

[ancient tundra]

Wait wait

Who is the protag

Mason ?

[burnt tree]

echidna mat drops

[ancient tundra]

If it s in the 90s

[burnt tree]

will change to t4 ones probably

[swift tree]

Yeah, as she will also count as Tier 4 content

[burnt tree]

like kayangel did

[kindred ravine]

I think some dude named Marshal?

[dawn yacht]

how many gacha ball pulls did you do for alice weapon ?

[kindred ravine]

I'll have to look again

at the direct

there's like 5-6 big names they had

[burnt tree]

just f2p stuff

didnt swipe like cha

[teal thistle]

exactly

[ancient tundra]

I want @kindred ravine to play as reznov

Ngl

[dawn yacht]

you over 150 ?

[burnt tree]

yea

[cedar zealot]

@swift tree do we know anything about what's happening to entropy

[burnt tree]

[ancient tundra]

Entropoop no news

For now

[dawn yacht]

i am at 225 no alice weapon drop yet

[cedar zealot]

I see. I think the new ark passive system will change stuff but they haven't covered it during the event

[burnt tree]

i can make A3 Alice weap, but if i dont get her ill salvage em

[teal thistle]

They changing it on solo mode but thats all we know afaik

[dawn yacht]

you still didnt get her ?

[ancient tundra]

Only thing is July patch notes for kr

[burnt tree]

i said i didnt.

[ancient tundra]

That will give an idea

[dawn yacht]

uninstall angle

[ancient tundra]

Like they said in loa on

[burnt tree]

i got 4 copies of her weapon

but not the btch herself

[teal thistle]

Yeah, make sense if they change it to hitmaster on solo mode tho

[ancient tundra]

True

[kindred ravine]

the main group for campaign is Frank Woods, Troy Marshall, Jane Harrow, Felix Newman, Sabadi Duma, and Russell Adler

[ancient tundra]

Woods is back

[kindred ravine]

yeah but he's basically your radio guy and does work from behind the scenes since he's wheelchair bound

[ancient tundra]

I hope it has bo1 zombies

Back

[kindred ravine]

and they also said "a former ally may have become a new enemy"

[ancient tundra]

Cause it was insanely fun

Mason ?

[kindred ravine]

not sure if it was referenced to Russell Adler or someone else

[dawn yacht]

[ancient tundra]

If it s in the 90s

It s when Mason was controlled by the numbers

No ?

[kindred ravine]

Yeah afaik the main area we're in is Iraq

and it's "the biggest campaign map we've had"

apparently

also game is 310gb

[ancient tundra]

HUH

[dawn yacht]

what about zombies ?

[ancient tundra]

WYM

310gb

Thing is gonna take years

[kindred ravine]

we're also allowed to customize the hud

[dawn yacht]

[ancient tundra]

To download

[kindred ravine]

i think we're getting original zombies, we start with 2 maps. gobblegum is still there

[ancient tundra]

Man

Gobblegum

I hated that

No offense

[dawn yacht]

[kindred ravine]

yeah but it might be reworked or feel better

the zombie storyline is the dark aether story

[ancient tundra]

I want alcatraz

In bo6

[kindred ravine]

also all the movement system changes

[dawn yacht]

is anyone from old zombie crew in bo6 ?

[kindred ravine]

apply in zombies

[ancient tundra]

If it s in the 90s

All the roster will be there

Prob ?

[swift tree]

Entropy and Yearning go away when you switch to new Ark Passive system

Set Bonuses become part a new "Ascension" Tree

[kindred ravine]

from what i see

it's 2 girls and 2 guys

[teal thistle]

Is this confirmed?

[swift tree]

Yes

[ancient tundra]

[kindred ravine]

i can't screenshot a good clip

to where you could recognize anyone

[dawn yacht]

[kindred ravine]

one of the guys has an eyepatch though

[ancient tundra]

Where is the 4 guys

[kindred ravine]

this might be a different thing so idk

[ancient tundra]

Shit was hilarious when they have special Interaction

With each other

[kindred ravine]

yeah lol

[ancient tundra]

Shit was hilarious

[ancient tundra]

[swift tree]

Instead of fixed set bonuses you pick specific ones

[kindred ravine]

we're gonna have a big multiplayer reveal on august 28th

also i believe they said they're doing a class system kinda

[dawn yacht]

i wont pre order it gonna wait

[ancient tundra]

Ye

[kindred ravine]

16 all new maps

for MP

[ancient tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/let-them-cook-cook-black-clover-hollup-hold-on-gif-16423563800366538896

We will see

How it goes

[dawn yacht]

anything similar to nuketown ?

[kindred ravine]

didn't really see them

they just said we're launching with 16

[dawn yacht]

[swift tree]

Set Bonuses -> Evolution
Accessories -> Enlightenment
Bracelets -> Ascension

[wintry crypt]

PLAY ARAM?

[teal thistle]

😮