lost-ark-discussions

[faint grove]

chart?

[prime wind]

yeah 11 22 33 44 starts at 12 o clock

instead of our 3x+1

[faint grove]

yeah its nesw isnt it

[prime wind]

yeah

[faint grove]

same shit i guess different regions just happens to do it different ways

[prime wind]

the other guy probably counted starting at 3 o clock so he was off by a quadrant

[gleaming pendant]

[faint grove]

gz

[prime wind]

wtf kae actually raids

[gleaming pendant]

ok don't need to raid

for the week

bois

[faint grove]

really want 1 more lvl 10 on my zerk

thought cheers was not gonna be good uptime but its like 80-90%, not bad

[still lintel]

kae a billionare now

[prime wind]

ye cheers pretty good

[bitter lichen]

[buoyant wagon]

time to donate it to nova

he needs it more than you

[gleaming pendant]

he waiting for tmr

gonna unwrap like a present

[buoyant wagon]

judging from how people in the other group ended up

he's pretty fucked

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/bgdaA.gif

[buoyant wagon]

i've heard -5m upwards from that group

and one possible -20m

[gleaming pendant]

[buoyant wagon]

they're also aggressively banning any account that tries to buy it back with botted gold

should be fine if selling gems

[uneven mortar]

he got banned?

[gleaming pendant]

nah he isn't

[buoyant wagon]

[uneven mortar]

[gleaming pendant]

he taking a vacation

[buoyant wagon]

he's just on a vacation

[gleaming pendant]

in hawaii

[uneven mortar]

he went too hard

[buoyant wagon]

along with 4 other teammates

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/onRNEOX338X.gif

[buoyant wagon]

static bonding exercise

[uneven mortar]

6 1650 what he doing

he went mach 10 and the jet exploded

[sand marsh]

[uneven mortar]

like that new top gun movie

[buoyant wagon]

well at least 3 people survived

the team before/at the same time as his

lost all 8 players

[sand marsh]

i cleared a bit after the 10th team cleared. im madge

[uneven mortar]

all8?

[buoyant wagon]

yeah

[uneven mortar]

why ppl still clearing tf is beyon dme

[buoyant wagon]

i dont know if any other team got all 8 banned

well, we warned that group but they said they didnt care

[sand marsh]

Because it's fun.

[buoyant wagon]

they were already dgaf about the game

[uneven mortar]

[prime wind]

das funny

[buoyant wagon]

im not touching TF until like august lol

[uneven mortar]

man i saw jihnsi gameplay

its crazy

kuro really knows hiw to make smooth anims

[sand marsh]

race is already done form my understanding. why wait sitll

[buoyant wagon]

still kind of a hot period

rather wait for things to cool down

[sand marsh]

bad boi problems

[prime wind]

scalp didnt work hard enough thats why he's 13th clear

[sand marsh]

cant relate.

[buoyant wagon]

no rush either way

[prime wind]

could have gotten that title

[buoyant wagon]

then his team gets dq'd

[sand marsh]

Nah i'm pretty sure I would be considered 11th

[buoyant wagon]

[sand marsh]

The bard on sleepy's team is extremely sus

im like 90% sure he RMTed

no DQ though. shrug

[uneven mortar]

i been spending day and night reading lord of mysteries

[prime wind]

is that better than 13th

in the outcome

[uneven mortar]

@sand marsh you got to union 40 yet?

its so much exp

[prime wind]

wouldnt that make u more mad

[buoyant wagon]

if you got "donated" gold and gems from "friends"

you dont get caught

and those who did in the first wave, most were able to appeal their bans

[uneven mortar]

you guys reckon loaon finna do shit?

[prime wind]

yeah he probably just bought gems for irl money method right

[buoyant wagon]

if you sell pilots for real money, you dont get caught

if you bot chaos, you dont get caught

[sand marsh]

No, i'm close to 38

[buoyant wagon]

if you speedhack, you dont get caught

[prime wind]

my understanding is that if they do gem trading to u on same server nothing happens

[uneven mortar]

feel like not much they can do

[sand marsh]

I can at least say I cleared it without being a bad boi. shrug

[buoyant wagon]

if you went through guild deposit before they started the first wave of bans, you didnt get caught

which means the vast majority of the leaderboards are still dirty

[uneven mortar]

[prime wind]

whats the difference between these guys "sharing gems" and u selling alt gems? nothing

[uneven mortar]

[sand marsh]

i did it live, no sussy behavior

[uneven mortar]

i think its joever

[stark thicket]

you have 6 copies of yinlin yet?

[buoyant wagon]

andy lin basically soft confirmed to a friend of ours who works at amazon that they have no way to detect chaos botting

even if someone's logs show them running like 50 chaos a day

it's insufficient proof to investigate further or action on

[tulip charm]

imagine playing the game without having to worry about any of this sht
must be wierd

[sand marsh]

idk how these people RMT with the direction of da game. weirdge

[prime wind]

but thats the reality of the situation for dps wanting to 1630+ g4

just how it be

[buoyant wagon]

the direction of the game might be shit but it doesnt mean it's going EOS anytime soon

[prime wind]

that too

[sand marsh]

yeah i know that

[buoyant wagon]

and gold has been very cheap lately

and people can personally still enjoy the game even if the direction is bad

i mean, it's survivorship bias at this point

[sand marsh]

but the way I think is: if I don't like the way the game is heading, i don't swipe. it's like burning money.

this is my opinion of course

[prime wind]

imagine if u were 1630 on your zerk trying to get in g4 parties scalp

[buoyant wagon]

your assumption is that amount of money matters to these people

[sand marsh]

I would get denied without 25 wep for sure.

[prime wind]

exactly

a lot of ppl would see class/no weap and pretty much not let u even play

[sand marsh]

But honestly, g4/tf has a DPS shortage

[prime wind]

not surprised that a lot of ppl felt the need to rmt to catch up

[sand marsh]

so it may not of been that bad. who knows

[prime wind]

it does now

[sand marsh]

It did when it came out.

[buoyant wagon]

it's even worse now with all the bans and quitting

[sand marsh]

I remember when trying to fill for my first g4 lobbies, tons of sups applied

we waiting for like 30-40mins on dps

[buoyant wagon]

tons of garbage supports

[sand marsh]

i mean yeah ig,

half those sups i didn't recognize

hard to say

[prime wind]

like that artist in your static

before u went solo roaming

[sand marsh]

artist?

[prime wind]

the other support in g4-1 who kept dying

[sand marsh]

ohhhh

[prime wind]

even more than u

[urban obsidian]

stop

my tiktok page just called me out for being in love with chaewon

[sand marsh]

he actually end up clearing g4 before i did lol

[prime wind]

with the static?

[sand marsh]

No.

[prime wind]

or solo roamer

[sand marsh]

he left the group and joined a diff one

and i roamed solo

[tulip charm]

[prime wind]

thats wild

that he cleared first

[sand marsh]

I dont know if he cleared the first

i know he cleared g4 hm before i did

[prime wind]

undeserved

lobby rng thats all

[sand marsh]

It is what it is.

I'm glad I added people along the way that I thought were good

it allowed me to connect with people and get it done.

[kindred ravine]

Why is this casual player talking about someone else clearing hm and talking about how he cleared hm g4

Doesn’t sound casual to me

[wintry depot]

not again this

[prime wind]

scalp is like stoopz, the giver of the everyday man hope

if stoopz can clear u can too

[sand marsh]

did stoopz clear the first?

[prime wind]

i dont think he tried

[sand marsh]

ohh. g4 at least?

prolly

[steel minnow]

i mean everyone makes their own choice how they gonna spend their extra money i dont mind swiping on lost ark because i find the game very fun and i also dont think there will be an eos anytime soon lol

[bitter lichen]

[sand marsh]

thats fair. i always look at the bigger picture in these kind of games. I mainly look at the new player experience first & foremost

[steel minnow]

he did clear g4

[sand marsh]

if that is shit, i jus dont swipe.

[wintry depot]

he didnt try the first, his group kinda disbanded and he went to korea

[steel minnow]

i dont care about new player experience

[wintry depot]

after clearing g4 h

[azure valley]

if anything it makes more sense to if the game is trending downwards. you care less about getting got

[sand marsh]

that's fair, a good portion of people don't. I want the game to grow though.

[steel minnow]

i mean lets be real @sand marsh why do u care about new players when u gate keep them anyway

[sand marsh]

If game is not growing, i don't swipe.

[steel minnow]

would u like a new player in ur party

i sure wouldnt

sorry not sorry

[sand marsh]

If I'm teaching them I don't gatekeep.

[steel minnow]

i dont have time to teach people

[prime wind]

u guys are trolling anyway, u dont gatekeep because u arent even in the same lobbies

[sand marsh]

If i'm doing a reclear party, why would I invite someone who has not cleared it.

that's called being an asshole.

[prime wind]

only time u are in the same lobbies is when u are honing a fresh char or something

[steel minnow]

sure they might have cleared it but they didnt clear it 10x or 100x so i dont care about that xd

[prime wind]

if they cleared it 10x u take that applicant anyday

[steel minnow]

if they arent 40set or at least 35 with good gems i dont take them even if they got title

[prime wind]

ppl mistake gatekeeping when its really just taking the better candidate, i rarely actively deny

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/le-sserafim-chaewon-kpop-lesserafim-k-pop-gif-8189537654606996993

[sand marsh]

In ivory I don't really gatekeep. I just take whoever

it can be 3-manned afterall

[steel minnow]

ur talking about hard or normal here?

[sand marsh]

both

[thorn sluice]

You take whoever apply in hm

[steel minnow]

idk i havent done normal in a long time but i didnt gatekeep much there but in hard its either u got 40 set or unlucky

[sand marsh]

ya, i've played with quite a few people who are not 35/40 set.

they don't play bad.

[thorn sluice]

But there are people with lvl 7 gems at 1620

[prime wind]

i pugged all my breaker hm before i had set anyway

[steel minnow]

oh i know they probably wouldnt play bad but why risk it

[thorn sluice]

And weapon 19

[prime wind]

on event gems

[thorn sluice]

Why would you carry those people

[burnt tree]

cringe snark

[sand marsh]

i've been taking a scouter each week to ivory hm. he made a post on official stating he cant get into lobbies cause he doesn't have 40 set.

so i replied and said "you on NAE? add me"

[steel minnow]

also u know what i hate doe

[thorn sluice]

[burnt tree]

[prime wind]

doing dmg is not even important in invory anyway its just doing the mechs right

[steel minnow]

ppl who gatekeep others when their characters arent "up to their requirements" if u know what i mean

[kindred ravine]

we watching summer gamefes together in here chat?

[steel minnow]

like if u gatekeep only 40 set and u urself have 35

[wintry depot]

we had a db 1620 doing zdps in nm ivory but at least we didnt wipe so its fine

[sand marsh]

also ken, im full transcedence with eclipse title. even if i take one mokoko who doesn't have 40 set, it evens out with the other good players that are attracted.

[burnt tree]

im only watching cause Sparking Zero release date trailer droppin

[prime wind]

exactly

[kindred ravine]

i mean didn't it already get leaked/datamined?

[wintry depot]

thats a dumbass behaviour

[burnt tree]

yeah but

[sand marsh]

yeah if u know mechs i really don't care lol

[burnt tree]

its paired with a trailer

[kindred ravine]

closure of confirmed

[burnt tree]

i wana watch it

[kindred ravine]

oh and that

yeah

[kindred ravine]

bro glazing himself

[burnt tree]

prayge SSJ4s are in

[sand marsh]

if you can peform mechs and not cause wipes consistently it doesn't bother me

[kindred ravine]

[steel minnow]

yea i know but some people do that and its stupid xd

[thorn sluice]

If the guy in question has lvl 10 gems and 22* weapon has sense

[prime wind]

doing zdps is a positive experience for the other dps

[wintry depot]

i hate those people

[thorn sluice]

[kindred ravine]

i'd imagine they are. they have to be 😭 super baby too and omega

[burnt tree]

what if i perform mechs but wipe u cause ure scalp

[steel minnow]

i guess so

[sand marsh]

i've caused a wipe a few times. it's not often though.

[burnt tree]

yeah just funny the last fusion trailer showed zamasu, gogeta, vegito etc

[sand marsh]

i cant play perfect

[wintry depot]

same type of shit people that are 1610 and wants 1620 in lobbies

[burnt tree]

but no SSJ4 Gogeta

[sand marsh]

getting oldge

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-houdini-gif-1838392955208255510

[prime wind]

u need hairband, 10% skill increase

[thorn sluice]

If those people has much better gems / weapon, it has sense

I lvl means nothing

[stray jewel]

anyone here know someone jaild at gate2 ivory tower we need only 1 guy

nvm its full

[kindred ravine]

they're probably gonna get shown in a GT Trailer or something

[burnt tree]

[wintry depot]

usually they dont, they just want to get carried

[kindred ravine]

also i forget who else i was thinking of

oh yeah

[thorn sluice]

If I’m 1610 with full 10s and lvl 22 weapon I deal as much dmg as 1620s

[kindred ravine]

super janemba

[wintry depot]

most of them were supports

[kindred ravine]

i want him

bad

[thorn sluice]

It all depends on ur gear

[burnt tree]

janemba will definitely be in

we need giant characters anyway

they only showed Apegeta

[kindred ravine]

yeah we prolly getting a movies trailer and GT trailer

tbh

[burnt tree]

Imagine if Cell MAX is in

[thorn sluice]

I have my 1600 alts with +17/18 weapon and almost full 9 gems

Guess what , I apply into akkan hm lobbys with 1610 and I get accepted

[wintry depot]

ye same for my bf

[thorn sluice]

[burnt tree]

why would anyone want to gear their alts on par with a main

[wintry depot]

he was 1600 with weap 18

[burnt tree]

[thorn sluice]

Ye but I have 4 chars like this

[steel minnow]

why wouldnt u?

[wintry depot]

now hes 1610 with weap 20

[wintry depot]

ye him too

[thorn sluice]

Almost full 9 with lvl 17/18

[wintry depot]

dw

[thorn sluice]

And good bracelets

[prime wind]

lets u enjoy your character a lot more

[burnt tree]

no

sounds more like pleasing pf

[wintry depot]

getting 1620 on alts is zzzzzzzz

[steel minnow]

its not

[wintry depot]

i pitied from 1600 to 1620 on my artist

i didnt appreciate it

[thorn sluice]

How many lvl 9 gems does your bf have

[burnt tree]

wym? getting 1620 is free

[wintry depot]

uh

[burnt tree]

just one tap like chuan has

[prime wind]

not really, i do more 4 man raids so i dont have this issue

[steel minnow]

getting all alts to 1620 and all alts on 40 set was most satisfying thing ever

[thorn sluice]

[wintry depot]

depends his char

[prime wind]

it just feels better to play

[steel minnow]

now i feel very strong on all chars

[thorn sluice]

He surely can’t beat me

[wintry depot]

for his barrage, he has at least 1 lvl 10

[thorn sluice]

[tulip charm]

[steel minnow]

im just happy im done with all elixirs

[wintry depot]

most of his gems are 9s i think

[thorn sluice]

I have 43 ( soon 44) lvl 9 gems spread on all DPS chars and my pala has 1 CD lvl 9

[wintry depot]

except aero because he will gulag her

[burnt tree]

dunno just find it weird alts gotta be on par with main or close to it

[wintry depot]

@safe lark how much 9s you have

[thorn sluice]

But I have 0 lvl 10 yet

[prime wind]

its all about giving your char the most meaningful/price efficent upgrade

[burnt tree]

to me alts exist to feed the main

not to feed them xd

[kindred ravine]

gearing them also makes it easier to feed the main

[prime wind]

i like playing my alts, i also do not have a main

[burnt tree]

being 1620 and alts 1600 is fine but 1620 main 1620 alt is like ???

[wintry depot]

what about 2 mains 1620 and alts at 1610

[stark thicket]

i hit 40ul

[tulip charm]

your not gonna attempt to bis a few?

cost a sht ton of gold sometimes feels like its not worth

[burnt tree]

Fuego got an urge to hone

[steel minnow]

maybe if they giga nerf it

[burnt tree]

and 1-3 tapped his way to 1610

[prime wind]

not worth till after nerfs

[safe lark]

every alt 1610 has 3x 9

arti has 1x 10

[prime wind]

yeah thats the way it should be. when my char gets to 1580 i look at the dps charts and upgrade 2-3 of their skills to 9s

[sand marsh]

im not doing transcedence or pushing more alts to 1620 until a gold nerf or something is announced.

[steel minnow]

i know i could get like 3% dmg on main with only minmaxing my elixirs but its so much rng involved i rather wait for nerfs

[safe lark]

and arti will get some more love since he got 1620

[burnt tree]

loa on tomorrow anyway

[wintry depot]

he plays only spec classes so he benefits most from like 3 gems upgraded

[tulip charm]

took 2 month to cut class 5/atk 5, using only bound bottles and just selecting 5 and dismantling if its trash options

[burnt tree]

and we already know translixirs are being touched

[sand marsh]

isnt it today for us tehcnically

[wintry depot]

fucking spec

[kindred ravine]

apparently the silhouette's of like 2-4 new characters in HSR got shown

[sand marsh]

thats what someone told me

[burnt tree]

its uhhh 10 am for me in the morning

[wintry depot]

3am for nae, midnight for naw

so no

[burnt tree]

thats like midnight for US

[sand marsh]

fuck i gotta stay up til 3 am

oh wait

i dont work on weekends

[burnt tree]

no thats when it starts

[sand marsh]

[steel minnow]

but u wanna do 6x voldis hard a week thats like 90k gold only from doing voldis on all 6

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicobite-dancing-gif-14792404

[prime wind]

what the

[burnt tree]

LOA ON will last like 2 hours or so

[sand marsh]

what

[prime wind]

scalp low fibre diet confirmed

[wintry depot]

im lazy, it will cost me way more than that gold to get them to 1620

[sand marsh]

fibre diet?

whats that

[burnt tree]

[kindred ravine]

damn wtf 7 new characters for star rail got somewhat teased with the livestream today

[steel minnow]

yea but i think the time i save now from less gatekeeping and faster clear times makes up for it

[wintry depot]

my next move is getting my weap to 22 on my artist for the glow

[prime wind]

i got 4 1620s, i did like 7 raids last week and so far 1 this week

[wintry depot]

i dont get gatekept, im a support only roster

[steel minnow]

i dont like tapping weapon anymore

[burnt tree]

holy crap after playing on a 240hz 1440p monitor i cant play on this one

it feels weird

[sand marsh]

1080p monitor?

[wintry depot]

i tapped 21 at like 20% artisan yesterday

[prime wind]

wtf hax

[burnt tree]

yeah this ones super old

[wintry depot]

so i think 22 will be pity

[steel minnow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/818587796067188747/1245863980732256286/image.png?ex=66643000&is=6662de80&hm=af6927a348cabb5965142559db8519409bee93098ed3a73dda28f5da147511eb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[burnt tree]

after i moved on a diff work place i got a new monitor

[steel minnow]

this cost me 1.5mil gold

[sand marsh]

yea after u experience good 1440p, 1080p jus looks like poo poo

i want a 4k monitor eventually

[burnt tree]

Samsung G6 i miss u bbg

[prime wind]

what monitor do u use scalp

[steel minnow]

@wintry depoti free honed 20 21 22 and 23 sorry not sorry

XDDD

[sand marsh]

let me send SS of amazon order

forgot name

[tulip charm]

idk why sometimes it feels like i can NEVER MISSSSS

[wintry depot]

ewwwww

[burnt tree]

but you wont forget

[steel minnow]

now im on 15% on 25 i feel like i will pity again

[steel minnow]

also wanan see something funny

[wintry depot]

yes

[prime wind]

i got this one when it was sale

tempted to get another if it goes back on sale

[steel minnow]

my artist was wild

[sand marsh]

I bought two of these. I couldnt stand gaming on a 1440p and having a 1080p side by side.

[prime wind]

true

surely my artist taps 20 weap this week

[wintry depot]

nice luck

[tulip charm]

🫂

[steel minnow]

[burnt tree]

i got this

no wait

[sand marsh]

oh nice 32 inch

[wintry depot]

imagine being lucky in this game

[burnt tree]

the 27

not 32

32 was too much

for my tastes

[wintry depot]

i just got 170k from fate ember yesterday, not enough

[urban obsidian]

???

arna turning into zheng

[burnt tree]

stupid site defaults on 32 inch

[steel minnow]

wym 170k?

yea my main weapon is lucky with free hones

[wintry depot]

one fate 20, one 50 and one 100

[steel minnow]

thats crazy

[wintry depot]

in one day

[steel minnow]

in 1 day

wtf

[tulip charm]

gratz, nice reaction lol

[steel minnow]

yea thx man hahahaha

[burnt tree]

my problem is that im scared to actually have it delivered from the island to my house in november

[tulip charm]

wondering when the +18>19 books will become cheaper, i wanna hone but i can't afford those fked up book prices

[wintry depot]

probably when echidna drops

[burnt tree]

cause the transfer is via ship

[wintry depot]

and we will have books in shop

[swift tree]

echidna is 1620 books, ya

[steel minnow]

@tulip charm my main weapon luck was just way 2 good thats why i pitied 24

[burnt tree]

echidna my beloved

[prime wind]

its ok pitying 24 gives u more honing power for 25

[burnt tree]

omg we are over 20k what happend

[steel minnow]

no im broke af now -1.5ml gold man

[sand marsh]

22 wep - 6% artisan
23 wep - 63.43% artisan
24 wep - 72.41% artisan
25 wep - 0.79% artisan

[kindred ravine]

NAE is live finally

[sand marsh]

[burnt tree]

+24 is where its at

[burnt tree]

[steel minnow]

im allready at 15% on 25 im pitying

[fervent ibex]

just set up my new bot farm

[wintry depot]

i just want 22 for the pinkish glow

[burnt tree]

me and another clannie got this master plan of not honing past +24

[wintry depot]

but i dont want to hone my bard...

[prime wind]

its a bound tap angle

[tulip charm]

when they canned zoomin park and started banning people, game pop obviously dropped, but they see this sht and u got maybe a slow trickle of returning/new players
might be more in a few weeks when echidna comes out
thats my guess anyways

[burnt tree]

just do 1-2 hones/week

ull get it eventually

[vagrant cradle]

only 3 Luterra's left to go until i finally have all legendaries maxed out

[burnt tree]

echidna wont bring new players cause they wont be able to enter the raid anyway xd

loa on and how fast AGS respods to it might do something

[wintry depot]

ye but fuck bard

[burnt tree]

frfr

[tulip charm]

it might come with another powerpass or something catered to 1610>1620

[wintry depot]

she has weapon 20

[burnt tree]

if anything is announced in loa on

[vagrant cradle]

i would love to hone my supports to 1620, but it's so damn expensive

[tulip charm]

i don't think loa is gonna do sht, i am sure we gonna get some cool features, then at the end they are gonna add "for kr only" and global recieves this in 2028

[burnt tree]

solo raids coming quickly might bring ppl back tho

you wont be dealing with a snark or something in pf

atleast

[swift tree]

This TBH. Valtan -> Akkan is a fucking HUMP for new players, they don't have the benefit of knowing the raids well enough to sneak into reclears + don't have any other alternative form of progression so people with 0 knowledge of the game are forced to interact with people running content only for quick gold.
It's just flat out bad design.

[fervent ibex]

"solo raids dead on arrival if nerfed rewards"

get your bingo cards ready

[burnt tree]

i mean yeah

[tulip charm]

[burnt tree]

nerfed rewards or 0 gold is dead on arrival

[tulip charm]

might be the holy grail for arti players....

[burnt tree]

what are vertical progression mats gonna do when u have no gold for them

[swift tree]

Need 1:1 raid specific materials.
And at least 3/4 of the gold + honing mats

[burnt tree]

^

plus the raids wont be nerfed

they will be readjusted to 1 person

u still gotta work for it

[kindred ravine]

what was the wuwa update?

[swift tree]

This. Valtan will still require Blue -> Red -> Blue -> Red Orb mech.

etc.

[burnt tree]

yeah so 0 excuse to destroy the rewards

[swift tree]

you basically complete it same way as bus version, but you have 4 orbs instead of 8

[burnt tree]

yep

and u still learn the mechs

[sand marsh]

I don't think it should be too easy. It should reflect the difficulty of what the actual raid will be like, to a degree.

But no hostile enviorment which is a plus

[burnt tree]

scalp.

readjusted to 1 person doesnt mean nerfed

[swift tree]

What we just described would be something close to it.

[sand marsh]

Yeah I know, i'm jus voicing my opinion about it.

Some people think it should be easy.

[swift tree]

kk

[sand marsh]

But I disagree personally.

[swift tree]

Yeah, nah.

Challenging but not punishing*

"An invitation to learn"

[burnt tree]

plus why would i wanna raid with dps meter turds or other pf weirdos like "why ur alt doest have LVL 10 gems??"

[sand marsh]

Yeah exactly.

If the rewards are decent, it's a W in my eyes.

[tulip charm]

an interesting concept, if there is no one else you can blame for dying in the raid, what would happen

[burnt tree]

u blame urself

currently in raids

[swift tree]

[burnt tree]

u fight ur boss and ur teammates

[sand marsh]

Yeah. when u die in dark souls who do u blame zheng

urself cuz u a shitter

[wind dagger]

[burnt tree]

id rather deal with my own issues solo raiding than 3-7 other clowns

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/958332545366388786.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[swift tree]

Literally get this, Have a 300 roster and get 100s start talking mad shit if I slip up

[burnt tree]

even the 300 rosters fk up all the time

[swift tree]

because apparently Roster = knowing how to play a class on their 2nd run perfectly

[burnt tree]

but they get a pass for having higher roster

than the guy with 250

[sand marsh]

I'm mainly concerned about the rewards from Ivory & Akkan.

[swift tree]

Ah well, jokes on them, they got kicked from party and I went on to 1-shot gate with new group

[tulip charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ0allQYFuE&t=110s&ab_channel=PunkDuck 1:51

[burnt tree]

im mainly concerned about elixirs as a whole

[swift tree]

Akkan will probably be 1/2 rate of armour ngl, since it's still technically newest gear

[burnt tree]

hopefully epic elixirs get discontinnued xd

or w/e typed

[sand marsh]

It's so outdated. I think it should be same rate, lesser gold than normal.

[wintry depot]

fuck elixirs

[swift tree]

Oh 100%, I'm just saying what I expect from SG

[burnt tree]

i cant wait for the roadmap follow up article from ags

[prime wind]

epic elixirs r okay tho, they give a lot of power and dirt cheap. its 1620+ gold sinks that are the problems

[swift tree]

Letter from New Director dropping same day

[burnt tree]

epic elixirs removed, less rng in them

[swift tree]

One can only hope.

[burnt tree]

less gold

like change everything lmao

[sand marsh]

Epics being removed + legendaries drop from normal would be a massive W

[prime wind]

only if cost is also nuked

[burnt tree]

simply replacing epics wont resolve the issue with elixirs anyway

[sand marsh]

Yeah that as well.

[burnt tree]

there should be rng/gold changes too

[swift tree]

this ngl

[burnt tree]

the system is old at this point as well

[sand marsh]

But if you ask me Justin, the gold cost isn't the problem. It's the RNG. If the RNG wasn't as intense, the gold cost wouldn't be a problem.

[swift tree]

It's just hit a year old, which is when SG tends to nerf stuff.

[prime wind]

the epics as they currently are actually good, because 1) u get your set pieces 2) cheap power

[swift tree]

It's too many layers of RNG imo

[burnt tree]

either middle tier changes to both gold/rng or high tier changes to either rng/gld

[prime wind]

legendary is still the issue cause they are 1620 gated

and giga expensive

[sand marsh]

If they allow us to at least pick one or two affixes off the bat, that helps a tonnnn

[cursive ruin]

Every time my brother comes over with his kid the idea of having a child becomes miserable

[late portal]

Time to take a nice nap before 3 am loaon

[burnt tree]

replacing epics means legendary elixir tappign starts from 1600

[swift tree]

RNG for what pool of effects to pick from -> RNG for which elixirs get chosen for advice options -> RNG on transmutation + success on advice

[swift tree]

Or at least pick piece type

[prime wind]

if legendaries cost the same as epic i wouldnt mind

[burnt tree]

they should

[urban obsidian]

[burnt tree]

and rng be toned down

[urban obsidian]

feels like 100

[swift tree]

Piece Type + No repeats on reroll.

[sand marsh]

I think there should be some RNG, cause realistically that's what SG wants. But at least allow us to pick our set affix.

[burnt tree]

i mean we arent saying to remove it entirely but it needs to be significantly toned down

[glossy bane]

Yall on copium if u think they gonna do 1600 legendary

[swift tree]

Long-term solution would probably be a sticker book thing like Tripods but I doubt it.

[burnt tree]

odds are they announce another vertical system with the new assault raid type anyway

[sand marsh]

Every other raids gives the exact same mats, whether doing normal or hard.

Akkan, Valtan, Vykas, Kayangel, etc

[swift tree]

Every other raid (with the exception of Echidna) where the mats are separate between N/H

Even Echidna at least gives both on HM

[burnt tree]

atleast echidnas normal mode takes u to hard mode

[glossy bane]

How is honing related to a different power gain

[burnt tree]

so its a good path of progression

[sand marsh]

Technically no with Echidna. You can transfer your mats from normal -> to hard mats.

[burnt tree]

elixirs arent

[glossy bane]

Like cmon

[swift tree]

See, whomp there it is

[sand marsh]

Wdym?

[swift tree]

The difference is once you dump the Echidna materials on a piece, that's it you dont need to spend those materials again.

[sand marsh]

Why should one raid out of the rest give different mats depending on difficulty.

[swift tree]

Like Transcendence, once Dark Fire is used, you do not need to use it again.

[sand marsh]

It just creates frustration with the community.

[glossy bane]

Only change they gonna do for elixir is prolly cheaper,more turn,higher chance/selectedable set effect and more dust from dismantling

[swift tree]

If an elixir is bad, the whole thing is scrapped, the silver, gold, elixir materials and the cost to craft one.

[prime wind]

u tunneled on 1 1600 point, we are talking about all of those

[sand marsh]

If they follow the ideology of "hm should give diff mats" then retune akkan. Make it to where when you do normal akkan you get a relic set, then hard akkan ancient set.

[prime wind]

being a combined issue

[sand marsh]

Let's revert to the old brel days

that would be exciting /s

[prime wind]

of too much rng and cost

[glossy bane]

Dont get ur dreams smashed tomorrow if u think they gonna add legendary below 1620 xD

[swift tree]

1-2 HM anyone?

[prime wind]

? that was one line sathona made

[burnt tree]

its just speculation anyway

[sand marsh]

I don't see why you think it's hella copium. Every other raid follows this ideology.

[burnt tree]

plus most ppl already got looow expectations bairo chan

[gleaming pendant]

TMR!

[sand marsh]

I don't think it's much of a stretch.

[gleaming pendant]

[prime wind]

it doesnt matter anyway, as long as the end result lowers rng and gold cost

[gleaming pendant]

[swift tree]

[prime wind]

how they choose to implement it and how much it benefits is the main point

[glossy bane]

Honing != elixir/trancendence
There is no ideology at all xD

[swift tree]

I mean yeah

[sand marsh]

Your playing semantics

[kindred ravine]

deathboi i'm your biggest fan

can you teach me how to be a giga sweat too

[gleaming pendant]

DEATHBOI THANKS FOR YOUR GUIDE MAN

YOU ARE THE BEST

[kindred ravine]

TRUE

[swift tree]

It's a power threshold that the larger player community expects someone to cross, and such they will be gatekept otherwise.

[kindred ravine]

WITHOUT YOUR GUIDES I'D BE LOST

[gleaming pendant]

TRUE

waiting for deathboi echinda guide

and behemoth guide

[kindred ravine]

FR

Deathboi go on a korean acc and make us guides before the content gets here

wtf

[prime wind]

plus these systems dont really affect me anymore, its mainly for alts and new players to get across that barrier

[gleaming pendant]

deathboi gonna play with popular kr streamers?!

[prime wind]

and alleviating the pain of 1600-1620+ chars

[swift tree]

Echidna G2.1 -> Slap her boobs/butt -> Do Identity Plinko/Avert Gaze -> Counter Maze -> Indentity -> Giga Chidna.

[kindred ravine]

oh nice we got another 160 astrite for some compensation

i'll hit 40 after i get home from work

[swift tree]

Echidna's identities are kinda cool ngl

[tulip charm]

? the compensation is working as intended, NAe got maintenance for 20hours, NAw gets 50 darkfires and NAe dosn't, its perfect "pheon gate intern"

[prime wind]

we got those wdym, the compensation is separate in f4

[swift tree]

Thar secret interaction during giant phase is also

BEGONE THOT

[kindred ravine]

wtf did NAW get darkfires for

[swift tree]

game-wide merge celebration

[glossy bane]

idk if ppl go with the expectation of Smilegate adding legendary below 1620 - i wont be surprised that everyone gonna quit ngl

[prime wind]

yeah scalp and sathona big reps of the majority of players

[sand marsh]

maybe thats a good thing

[prime wind]

1 without at 1620 and the other with first clear

[swift tree]

It's not an concerete expectation, it's what would be good design or something that's seen as ideal but y'know, Smilegate blows hot'n'cold at the best of times.

[nova garden]

Time to order some food

[glossy bane]

they gonna make it easier to get 40set and cheaper thats about it

[swift tree]

NGL those do seem to be the opposite sides of the spectrum

[glossy bane]

no giga power gain below 1620

[nova garden]

The serves 4-5 is a lie. It serves me.

[prime wind]

epics already give huge power gain

like half an engraving

[swift tree]

Sounds like you're eating your way to Twink death

Nice.

[prime wind]

thats a big breakfast

[sand marsh]

The ideology is the same because it's materials you get from a raid. Old brel had normal mode = relic set, hard mode brel = ancient set. They reverted this. Kayangel normal and hard give the same mats, normal giving less. Same with Akkan. And same with Thaemine (exception to this is needing HM gate 3 cleared currently for full transcedence).

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cardy-big-breakfast-patricia-daddy-want-the-big-breakfast-daddy-want-the-big-breakfast-big-breakfast-breakfast-gif-24651668

[prime wind]

plus its streamling the leveling process as the game itself progresses

imagine honing brel armor twice nowadays

[glossy bane]

na thats just copium for me but we will see tomorrow
i expect cheap gems tomorrow

[cedar zealot]

RMT

[sand marsh]

I remember people screaming copium when people advocated for old brel to have one set only, instead of two.

Who knows.

[glossy bane]

i just hope they do 1 chaos dungeon only and remove una quest and give 2x the amount for weekly quest

[swift tree]

Ready (to) Munch (on) Toast

[prime wind]

yeah cause ppl are dumb, they literally removed a whole ass tier

[nova garden]

I got an email so

[swift tree]

They removed 4

[prime wind]

shore

[swift tree]

Like actually tho

[nova garden]

Cost me like $25 for all that food

[sand marsh]

It's such a silly gap when one raid in the entirety of the game gives a completely different set of materials

[nova garden]

I like food

[prime wind]

your shit is gonna weigh more than my cat

(15 lbs)

[swift tree]

Oreha NM/HM & Argos became the same.
Dimensional got collapsed into 1
Brel got collapsed
Providence/Unity became one set.

[nova garden]

[sand marsh]

Yeah just do this consolidation but for Ivory. It's dead content in Korea.

so I don't see why they wouldn't consolidate it.

[swift tree]

Legendary gear also got removed from Valtan/Vykas

[sand marsh]

Oh right. I remember that.

[sand marsh]

[swift tree]

Turns out they kept the Fury/Oaths from Tier 1, just removed the gear.

So you can buy accessories

[cursive ruin]

lel

[swift tree]

[sand marsh]

I did a akkan HM yesterday where g3 was at 20 HP lines before the tower mech (that is supposed to happen at x140)

[burnt tree]

we done

[tulip charm]

ordering for 2 or just 1?

[sand marsh]

juicer group

[cursive ruin]

if only everything about this accessory was different

[nova garden]

That’s just for me

[swift tree]

I threw a splendid dark in a group of 1610/20ss doing NM Akkan.
Went into Tower at x90.
Was x75 after DR
Had at most 3 of the post-ritual patterns

[tardy tusk]

fat b

[nova garden]

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/wreck-it-ralph-bunny-pancakes-gif-19262719

[turbid oriole]

You the snacc

[nova garden]

maybe someday i'll use these

[swift tree]

Can use them in your solo clowns to get KLC 30, surely

[stark thicket]

no, u the snacc

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-eating-camera-you-died-baby-eating-camera-dark-souls-dead-gif-gif-20362239

[gleaming pendant]

use

[thorn sluice]

El cheapo

[sand marsh]

any mokoko need books

[nova garden]

i'm so good man

any mokoko need shards?

[stark thicket]

any mokoko need dn

[swift tree]

what about non mokokos?

[swift tree]

[tulip charm]

did everyone else get eaten 4 times?

[still lintel]

eaten????

[neon cedar]

Icy is just a gamer

[still lintel]

icy getting eaten out????

[sand marsh]

@supple parrot ivory and thaemine tonight?

[swift tree]

Just busy baking their beans

[gleaming pendant]

[nova garden]

no, we just had two sup lmao

[swift tree]

Sien

[tulip charm]

good luck on card

[tulip charm]

i need this stupid card i think its glitched, i got 1 copy in 6 months

[neon cedar]

Babeatrice

[nova garden]

well, at least it's one that i need

[swift tree]

Sien/Galatur/Luterra are supposed to be from Chaos Gates but they didn't add them to the new rewards after removing Maps

[turbid oriole]

[safe lark]

NEED FCKING LUEN

GIVE BACK SECRET MAPS

[neon cedar]

I got tons of those guys from maps

[safe lark]

well i wasnt lucky there

[neon cedar]

I finished my Weak-cock 4th to last tho of all cards

You too

[still lintel]

??

[tulip charm]

You can cheat out a copy of galaturd from maps still, 1 legendary map of ANY tier = 4 galaturd, 1 per player, you can only do this once

[prime wind]

horizontal enjoyer i see

[swift tree]

Yeah ik, I got mine

Actually got a Luen/Luterra at the same time using that.

[tulip charm]

I remb back then luen always dropped from maps

[low nebula]

echidna is 8 ppl raid?

[swift tree]

yes

Echidna is 8.
Behemoth is 16

[low nebula]

wtf is this

[tulip charm]

Not having maxed weakened kakul this far in is a miracle

[swift tree]

I maxed WKS using my last old selector.
It was my last non-KLC card

(Akkan was already maxed and only KLC card in the pack)

[low nebula]

there no way to get yenifer right?

[swift tree]

Nope

[low nebula]

emotes i would like

[swift tree]

Can't get any of the Witcher stuff because of the deal with CD Project Red

Thanks to that deal, we also never got Specialist Ciri skins.

[neon cedar]

Im close to collecting all the cards

Need more purple selectors

[swift tree]

Habeck and Zaika

combined that's like 10+ books

[queen grail]

11/80 pity and I got this @tidal sleet

[swift tree]

fk it, I'm doing it

[gleaming pendant]

Veskal doesn't exist in selector

Sadly

[swift tree]

Nope :c

[ancient tundra]

Scam

It doesn t exist there

[swift tree]

It's to get players to hone to 1630

[ancient tundra]

I want that juicy swift

[ancient tundra]

1820 swift gamer

With it

[neon cedar]

Thats fine, I want the demon dmg, not the bat

[gleaming pendant]

BATMAN

[swift tree]

That's it Braden, I'm gonna bust

[low nebula]

the hell is this

[ancient tundra]

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-gif-4439279616571508647

[neon cedar]

[swift tree]

Fk it, using the selectors

[safe lark]

yea was lucky and unlucky i guess

[low nebula]

memes multipy and evolve like microbes

[swift tree]

been sitting on 10 selectors, Thaemine can wait

[safe lark]

3 more selectors and i finish luen

gatekeeping my demon dmg

[neon cedar]

What set are you finishing with em?

[supple parrot]

Too laggy. Not gonna raid

[neon cedar]

I just want Kaishur

[swift tree]

KKS

[nova garden]

getting ready to watch the race to world's first in destiny 2

[neon cedar]

Starts at 1?

[nova garden]

they're prepping for the thaemine equivalent in d2

yeah

5 minutes

[neon cedar]

[swift tree]

They're going to nuke the moon?

[neon cedar]

Ill be watching too

[swift tree]

Isn't that where the wizard lives?

[low nebula]

d2?

[nova garden]

more like the universe

destiny 2

[neon cedar]

Whos a favourite to watch rn? havent watched d2 in awhile

[nova garden]

frostbolt and datto

[neon cedar]

Datto not washed, im in

[quartz turret]

new raid

[neon cedar]

Finally got a wishful ember and its

[stark thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/847310880018661416.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[quartz turret]

Could be worse

[swift tree]

Better than sailing coins ngl

[quartz turret]

I got an epic elixir

[neon cedar]

True, it could be a silver reward

[swift tree]

1 single elixir

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-raccoons-greedy-hungry-gift-gif-11179582

[tulip charm]

That’s literally all I got since the new chaos came out

Only 1 box

[neon cedar]

I got a random leg card the 2nd day, but nothing until now

[nova garden]

frostbolt is just randomly screaming let's go

[neon cedar]

A single elixer is troll too

[swift tree]

Jubilant Select, surely

[nova garden]

think he's reaching critical mass of hype

[ancient tundra]

Yoo it s @urban obsidian

[neon cedar]

My summoners qual is cracked, hopefully these help finish it

[swift tree]

Raccoonzu?

[quartz turret]

Ugh wuwa out of content, back to genshin

[swift tree]

Ugh Genshin still no update, back to LOA, LOA Terrible update, back to League

[tulip charm]

Actually a cracked class since the patch

[ancient tundra]

Cycle of no shower

[swift tree]

[neon cedar]

"Fighter" was a meme for my summoner within my static for so long, felt like shit. Revived her recently and can actual do dmg

Feels so good now

But I need my last 2 pieces to hit

[tulip charm]

Some people made loaon watch groups

I just can’t seem to get excited for Loa, I am sure there is gonna be some hype stuff show maybe a new class too, but at the end of it all they are gonna say it’s for kr only and global players will see this content in 1 year

[buoyant wagon]

cope groups

[queen grail]

When is it?

[neon cedar]

13 hours from now I think?

[stark thicket]

When's loa on? I need to ready pop or and sit in chat and watch the fire burn

[neon cedar]

2am NAE im pretty sure

Well est

[fervent ibex]

3am*

[stark thicket]

You going to watch it?

[tulip charm]

The way it’s being prioritized right now, it could be like cn servers see the new content in 3 month and we see it in a year lol

[neon cedar]

Ooo 3? Ill be at work so ill just listen to audio with someone translating

[tulip charm]

Wonder what class they could feature

[stark thicket]

Ok

[fervent ibex]

gonna be 1 hour of concert fluff, 20 minutes of "summer recap", 30 minutes of stuff they've already announced, 5 minutes of "what to expect next", and final 5 minutes of [Only for KR Region]

[swift tree]

@ancient tundra Can literally hear the BBEG speech from KH1 staring at this.

[tulip charm]

Plz no more, true assassin, real assassin, prime assassin god Something something no more delain classes

[neon cedar]

Where mage assassin

[swift tree]

technically that's Arcana

[ancient tundra]

Lmao true

[tulip charm]

Maybe add another warrior class

[ancient tundra]

[fervent ibex]

big tittied paladins

[neon cedar]

Wont be a gender unlock

[swift tree]

They wont be adding a new class until after set revamp & Awakening 3

[fervent ibex]

[swift tree]

NOW who's coping?

smh

[wind dagger]

how about I unlock something else.

[prime wind]

gambler class, use gold to deal more dmg

[tulip charm]

Idk how they gonna make 3rd awakening when the current 2 we have seem to overlap in some rows and people only ever pick one

[queen grail]

Yes.

[swift tree]

"Female Paladin is not next" -Vertical Enjoyer

[fervent ibex]

i mean, i couldnt care less summer loa on has HISTORICALLY been a let down

[tulip charm]

What about a bishop class

[neon cedar]

There is years of precident that they announce a new class at loaon summer. So idk about that

[swift tree]

And then within 2 weeks there's hard pivot

[neon cedar]

They always release within a month after announcement

[swift tree]

true

[fervent ibex]

so the real loa on is in 2 weeks when goldriver has to do an emergency stream

[swift tree]

but also this year kinda breaks precedent

[tulip charm]

Maybe a dps bishop class that can brand ontop of supports

[swift tree]

Korea also rarely gets 2 raids in the first half of the year

Ah well, ya'll got 14 hours to build up expectations that won't be met :3

[tulip charm]

The next 2 raids we get is apparently very casual, no more 10hour g3h progs and g4 infinite progs

[stark thicket]

Aly, you really love massive tatas don't you.

[queen grail]

[swift tree]

Echidna is around the same difficulty level as Akkan if they combined 2 and 3

[tulip charm]

Giant tracks of land is his thing, I don’t judge

[tardy tusk]

back to league? you mean elden ring dlc, back to ER

[swift tree]

Sure, then back to the Emergency Room

[tardy tusk]

Emergency room?

for the mobs

[swift tree]

For vitamin D deficiency.

[tardy tusk]

[fervent ibex]

my reasonable expectations for loa on:
solo raids

my cope expectations for loa on:
unreal engine 5

my dream expectations for loa on:
the south korean government bans gacha and they actually have to design a game that doesnt revolve around 24/7 lootboxes in different skins

gonna make my wish at 11:11 and hope it comes true

[tardy tusk]

The fucking sun here solve that dw

[swift tree]

Cope one is a non-starter. You literally cannot go from 3 -> 5

[wind dagger]

Not with their small team

[tardy tusk]

indie company

[swift tree]

You'd have to rebuild the whole game from scratch

[tulip charm]

Tell them to eat some bear liver, I am not a trained medical professional do not take this advice as serious

[fervent ibex]

so do it im sure when your game sells $70k usd weapons, you can afford the upgrade

[stark thicket]

[fervent ibex]

small indie riot games just had a $500 ahri skin, surely they can also fix their spaghetti code

[tardy tusk]

cope

[tulip charm]

My reasonable expectation is they buff arti spec scaling by 100%

[swift tree]

No one actually paying 70k for it

[frail swallow]

Who here has experience with ICUE on a Corsair Scimitar Pro/Elite? Bad? Good? Tolerable?

[stark thicket]

Hey buddy, coding is easy but it's also easy to mess up one little thing and not be able to find it

[tardy tusk]

I do have one

and its good

but

Icue sometimes its dogshit

depend of the update

[stark thicket]

Hate spending hrs fixing something and it just be the silliest shit

[tardy tusk]

[stark thicket]

[tulip charm]

Oh, I forget, they should increase spec stat vs gs rifle scaling by a sht ton

[frail swallow]

This would be my concern, I know ICUE historically can be a piece of shit. Admittedly though the Logitech software isn't much better, which I use now.

Reason I'm asking is because my g600 has finally reached the "incessantly double clicking" stage of its life and I am not about to spend $130+ on a replacement of it because they are no longer in production.

[fervent ibex]

silly goofy riot games just missing 14 years of quality control

[tardy tusk]

for that price ill be honest, buy a razer one.

[fervent ibex]

🤪

[frail swallow]

I've had horrific luck with Razer too.

[tardy tusk]

Shit.

uhm

[frail swallow]

All 3 of the Nagas I ever had all went to shit very quickly

Within 2 years

3 mice, in 2 years

Middle click would break, tracking would be inconsistent despite being wired

[nova garden]

i love logitech, only issue is that they have QC issues with their mouse buttons

[tardy tusk]

I do have my corsair mouse since 2023 so far.

[wind dagger]

I just have Fantech Aria

[prime wind]

razer mice quality used to be very good

[tardy tusk]

and no problem.

icue its, sometimes

[swift tree]

Bought a Logitech mouse that's alright but nothing special, chord isn't "roped" so it wont die from tension in a month's time.
Keyboard is Mad Catz, and is really, mechanical and sturdy keyboard.
Default RGB is a bit funny.

[nova garden]

i've had the same logitech mouse for like 6 years

[queen grail]

damn, You must have had terrible luck, my 15 year old Razor Black Widow keyboard is what I'm still using today.

[nova garden]

their keyboards are good, their mice are shit

[queen grail]

And I had my mouse for like 10 years

[tardy tusk]

[frail swallow]

My g600 has been great since 2016, love it. That third mouse button for the ring finger; I don't know if I could go without it

[nova garden]

i went through three razer mice in six months

[frail swallow]

But this double clicking...too risky, too annoying

[sand marsh]

DID SOMEONE SAY MOUSE

[fervent ibex]

i am STILL using the epic naga 2014 that i bought in 2015 lol, so about 9 years now

had to replace the wire once, but otherwise its working great

[blissful rose]

deathadder v3 is good

[prime wind]

my first deathadder lasted like 9 years the next one busted in like 1

[sand marsh]

THE FINAL MOUSE IS GUD, I RECOMMEND

[blissful rose]

Yea tbf the first was very good

[nova garden]

send me one and i'll see if that's true

[queen grail]

Is that one of those ultra light with holes in it because nerds sweat to much?

[nova garden]

[swift tree]

Default Keyboard colours lol

[prime wind]

if its so good why do u buy one every year

[frail swallow]

The only issue I had with a logitech mouse was the first g600 I bought, it started double clicking within like the first 6 months so I replaced it and I've had that replacement with no issues until now since then

[queen grail]

Yuck, turn off all lights

[tulip charm]

I want to hear a 2nd or 3rd opinion on the cheese grater mouse if anyone else here use them

[swift tree]

[stark thicket]

Double clicking is the worse, stay away from razer products lol. I've been happy with steel series and the ultra light mice

[fervent ibex]

idek about any of the new razer stuff, but i bought all my razer products in 2015 and they've all lasted pretty well

[stark thicket]

The one with the holes in it

[ancient tundra]

U got sponsored or wut

[stark thicket]

[ancient tundra]

[swift tree]

"The First Mouse"

[frail swallow]

I use MMO mice, 12 side buttons, and they have one of those but its wireless (I don't like wireless) and its also over $130 which if I wanted to pay that much I'd just get another g600

[stark thicket]

I'm a casual now, no need for 12 side buttons

[nova garden]

got this keyboard a while ago and i love it

[frail swallow]

I need them, too used to them now

[swift tree]

I need a numpad for dev work

[frail swallow]

Its also probably why I have carpal tunnel but we're here now

[tardy tusk]

I do have a Logitech G903 and so far no problems.

[swift tree]

[ancient tundra]

Pity angle

[nova garden]

can just buy a separate one. i got one on the side but i keep it off my desk most of the time to keep things clean

[nova garden]

i also have a g903. going strong for over 6 years

[tulip charm]

I am just a casual I buy the cheap Logitech mouse for like 40$, toss it out after 3 years and buy a new one

[fervent ibex]

i still use my 12-sided mouse, but the games ive been playing lately dont really utilize them anymore zz only been using like 2 or 3 buttons on them these days

[sand marsh]

what the

[tardy tusk]

yeah