gave my dog a fresh cut 
#lost-ark-discussions
prime wind
i also shaved my cat today
sullen plaza
i shaved my ass for chris
tardy tusk
...?
kindred ravine
damn that's kinda cringe
sullen plaza
u guys tried the new destiny 2 update ?
late portal
kindred ravine
chris what kinda hair cut you want
i'll line you up rq
you want any designs on the side/back?
fresh flint
just shave it off
sullen plaza
still lintel
jade better 
tardy tusk
both are good
still lintel
both are good
fresh flint
cope
late portal
wasnt that run streamed lol
fresh flint
ur life revolves around the internet
who tf cares
it was
and i was watching
dumbass mad over memeing
fast dome
uhhh
late portal
damn chris
fast dome
late portal
chris
you gotta be easy on some people who think lost ark is going to make them successful in life
nnot everyone thinks that way but some do
fresh flint
nnot everyone thinks that way but some do
also just 1 tapped or 2 tapped all of my pieces
late portal
late portal
fresh flint
r u stupid
go read the backlog
since u so concerned
but yes, u are chronically online
fast dome
dont run
i tried getting up the tree to hit it but it just flied up and got unstuck sadge
buoyant wagon
you're boosting a public lost ark server
fresh flint
and?
still lintel
buoyant wagon
pot calling kettle black moment
fresh flint
lets bring up points that actually make no sense
keep gripping u'll find some slack eventually
late portal
chris look
fresh flint
what you want me to do with the 2 boosts i get for using nitro? eat them? let them sit there? please advise me o intelligent one
buoyant wagon
2256 pages of messages in this channel and you're calling others chronically online
lack of self awareness is amazing
still lintel
late portal
being used like that
fresh flint
I am very much aware, the way you rlly think you're correct in every situation reeks of chronic illness
like i said cope
fresh flint
<:sadge:863133955980394546>
i ran out of shards halp
ancient tundra
jade better <:EZ:965819818118889552>
skipped
ancient tundra
i ran out of shards halp
run out of dn
fresh flint
run out of dn
shuddap fuego
fast dome
<:PogU:852993148983443456>
very nice
fast dome
i was 5050 and 20pull in <:pepeglad:586128491184128031> and did a 10pull just fo...
its always the pulls for shits and giggles
now when the next patch drops
and i pull for firefly
game is gonna fuck me
late portal
i ran out of shards halp
fresh flint
<:peepoHmm:1124811355753566208>
I just need 2 hones on my weapon for 1580
Unfortunate
late portal
ancient tundra
i was 5050 and 20pull in <:pepeglad:586128491184128031> and did a 10pull just fo...
Ez
sullen plaza
what is bro saving shards for
fresh flint
Why so mean
sorry i am short
ancient tundra
Now enjoy free 12% crit rate
fresh flint
Short on wa
ancient tundra
fresh flint
ill give u a dollar for those
still lintel
yinlin in 1 day
late portal
late portal
moms spaghetti
fresh flint
0% language 100% comprehension
ok but fr
where do i get shards from
this is an emergency
still lintel
💳
ancient tundra
where do i get shards from
Event shop
late portal
mari shop
cedar zealot
late portal
idiot
late portal
late portal
yo chris
ancient tundra
cedar zealot
im not ready
still lintel
im so ready 
cedar zealot
still lintel
ready to fail 5050 and run out of pulls
ancient tundra
Bro chrissy getting gaslighted into whaling
cedar zealot
at least we dont have to chase dupes yet
late portal
fresh flint
Bro chrissy getting gaslighted into whaling
i bought silvery honor boxes before ie ven came here
ancient tundra
I m rdy bro
fresh flint
i whale for fun
cedar zealot
<@269938913257324575> yin lin in one day
lime dove
I feel like solo raids will have limited amount of runs that will give rewards
That way ppl will go into group content after learning
Instead of just only staying in solo
ancient tundra
That would make sense
U can t keep playing solo
Forever
We will find out soon so
buoyant wagon
should just allow people to progress through any way of playing, albeit at slower speed compared to raiding
but that goes against the monetization of the game, which wants you to be pressured to swiping to meet the raid entry requirement
fast dome
i wish there was a faster way to fill up verinas concerto energy, cuz right now it doesnt fill fast enough for my jiyan rotation
need more copies of the weapon
dawn yacht
pretty good
lime dove
but that goes against the monetization of the game, which wants you to be pressu...
I think it will be used as a bridge more than another avenue
low nebula
ancient tundra
solo mode thaemine will be lit
Valtan orbs solo 
incoming
lime dove
Lol
ancient tundra
lime dove
xd
buoyant wagon
NPC teammates is what FF14 started doing from Shadowbringers onwards
buoyant wagon
for all story dungeons you can choose to run with NPCs
the NPCs are scripted to help you execute all mechs
ancient tundra
Wait so they know the spot
buoyant wagon
it's a good system for people who dont want to wait like 10 minutes queuing or have basic social anxiety from running with strangers
buoyant wagon
they wont ever go the npc route in this game
lime dove
To minimize the time if npc dmg is lower than usual
fast dome
and now that im done with this and have gotten all bosses 5*, its time to go exploring for union exp and the 1 star ones that i dont have at max rarity yet
lime dove
buoyant wagon
this game has never been a casual carebear friendly game like ff14
and it will be decried as a waste of resources by KR
lime dove
Well maybe it should be
ancient tundra
Also i think solo raids will have checkpoints
U mean like checkpoints
On annoying mechs ?
buoyant wagon
you can't really be a casual carebear game with the type of monetization this game has
lime dove
U mean like checkpoints
Lol completed mechs if u fail u dont gotta start from very beginning
Unless u choose
tardy tusk
<:PogU:852993148983443456> pretty good
domains crash was insane ngl
swift tree
oh this game exist yet https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/2820022915051028...
that's just an expansion, game's been out for over 10 years
ancient tundra
Lol completed mechs if u fail u dont gotta start from very beginning
Npc not pinging white orbs in kaya
If u fuck up
lime dove
Lol
dawn yacht
lime dove
I wonder how much of a tutorial will solo mode be
lime dove
Like when the mech comes up does the screen pause
And gives u a description on how to complete the mech
fresh flint
@late portal done rage honing
low nebula
that's just an expansion, game's been out for over 10 years
ive played it on release, i thought its closesd 10 years ago
fresh flint
sullen plaza
the mechs are probably gonna be so easy
ancient tundra
Or hard kaya
fresh flint
both
ancient tundra
Pick your poison
low nebula
<@315603729313169408> done rage honing
1540-1580 is 200k
late portal
Valtan orbs solo <:KekLaugh:827267761595351071> incoming
YES
fresh flint
i was 1558
low nebula
i was 1558
175
lime dove
Wait how will the solo raids be if every position and run is different
lime dove
dawn yacht
solo raids gonna save loa
kindred ravine
SOLO RAIDS ARE GONNA DUNK DN ON YOUR CHIN
lime dove
dawn yacht
SOLO RAIDS ARE GONNA DUNK DN ON YOUR CHIN
fresh flint
okay
low nebula
i think if they cut most of the wipe mech solo raids could be good entry do few times before join big raid to learn normal patterns in your own pace
sullen plaza
do you guys think solo raids will take the gold check ?
low nebula
yep
lime dove
So essentially solo raids are the “easy” mode raids they shuda added long ago
sullen plaza
i think they just be for extra mats
ancient tundra
So essentially solo raids are the “easy” mode raids they shuda added long ago
Rehearsal?
low nebula
look at rehersals
lime dove
Rehearsal?
Kinda ye
lime dove
But not the same
sullen plaza
yeah something like that ?
ancient tundra
Surely it will drop leg cards
wintry depot
but then people will complain that they cant get their gear
ancient tundra
Right ?
low nebula
smilegate is pro in doing same stupid mistake over and over again but differently
ancient tundra
Right
buoyant wagon
bound gold off solo raids would be incredibly stupid
wintry depot
sounds like soemthing smg would do
ancient tundra
when content warning ?
I m not free
dawn yacht
I m not free <:deadge:1046748734807093330>
low nebula
i dont see issue in bound gold from solo raids
new players would hone from it
old players would do bullshit from it (elixir, transcendence)
buoyant wagon
SG has no concept of bound gold since it doesnt exist in KR
ancient tundra
@dawn yacht bro wtf is this
ancient tundra
Found this on x
wintry depot
no
buoyant wagon
of course not lol
still lintel
<@481298751080628234> bro wtf is this <:KekLaugh:827267761595351071>
Whiskey mist in the eyes
low nebula
this line can be longer and add bound gold.
and remove silver from game
like totally
tmrw no silver, everything which cost silver is free.
dawn yacht
cope
dawn yacht
Everything that cost gold is free
lime dove
Lol
dawn yacht
lime dove
Trade through services
low nebula
or trade via pheons, you pay pheons for items with -5%
pheons ofc come from ingame shop for $
😄
dawn yacht
lime dove
Lost ark gonna use an energy system
sullen plaza
am i the only one that never hated pheons ?
low nebula
i hate them in principle, they never affected me
low nebula
dawn yacht
Lost ark gonna use an energy system
might as well turn it into mobile game and close down pc versions
sullen plaza
like fr i never had problems with pheons
ancient tundra
people defended the game as respecting your time also
Biggest cope
dawn yacht
energy system
tardy tusk
might as well turn it into mobile game and close down pc versions
It already have a mobile version.
low nebula
dawn yacht
just announce Eos already
low nebula
im not buying gamba stones
dawn yacht
Shadow summon
lime dove
burnt tree
this line can be longer and add bound gold.
convert silver into gold fr
tardy tusk
Surely
lucid ether
12 ch on voldis farming spot, so there is bots in the game
sullen plaza
voldis ?
quartz turret
can u just go to general chat
sullen plaza
no way bots are at voldis ilvl
lucid ether
Great Rainforest
buoyant wagon
it can go lower, you should log off to make that happen
sullen plaza
bro no way bots are in voldis
late portal
lucid ether
But I thionk the future of the game is dark
sullen plaza
piimpollo can u post screenshot ?
lucid ether
In KR only think on vertical progression
still lintel
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1017444004226416760/1183728907967533108...
Weak
sullen plaza
ok but where are the bots
sullen plaza
bro no way
lucid ether
Normally is only 1-2 channels
quartz turret
wuwa better game anyways
lucid ether
So there are bots in the game
sullen plaza
yes
quartz turret
data bank 18
lucid ether
:S
lucid ether
Can a mmorpg survive with 12k players?
buoyant wagon
no it can't
sullen plaza
keep eu
buoyant wagon
clearly
sullen plaza
DELETE ALL REGIONS JUST KEEP EU TY
buoyant wagon
there are no mmos out there with 10k players
sullen plaza
yeah
lucid ether
I normally raid from 0:00 to 4 am
lucid ether
Its being a nightmare to find parties
ancient tundra
Era of wow is over
lucid ether
In my raiding time
buoyant wagon
whenever a mmo reaches 10k players, God descends from heaven to personally shut it down
ancient tundra
Same
late portal
lmao
ancient tundra
it was discord staff also
There u go u have ur answer
sullen plaza
most played cuz its alive
ancient tundra
Why they said it s alive
buoyant wagon
by that metric
sullen plaza
no way people still play it
late portal
isnt lost ark the second most played game on steam
buoyant wagon
it's still popular
ancient tundra
Just go play wuwa
sullen plaza
top 4 i think
ancient tundra
Ez
late portal
we did it guys
sullen plaza
or top 5
late portal
lost ark is dead
buoyant wagon
it's literally been the most played mmo for much of the past 2 decades
late portal
0 players
ancient tundra
Yooo 0 players
late portal
ancient tundra
Let sgooo
buoyant wagon
the only mmo that came close to WoW concurrent even at its low points was FF14 during expansions
buoyant wagon
wildst 
r
late portal
wintry depot
riot mmo will save us all
dawn yacht
10k bots
fresh flint
hes going to riot games to help
dawn yacht
riot mmo will save us all
yes riot mmo in 2050 
buoyant wagon
either way im curious to hear what other 3 mmos have more players than wow
prime wind
soccer, baseball, and basketball, checkmate weebist
swift tree
and remove silver from game
**Remove Gold. Ironman mode. No trading. Singleplayer game. You use premium currency to buy materials.
No Raid Teams
dusky leaf
yo what do u guys think of the cash shop card pack 3 its 1500 rcs for 15 any, 10 rare, 4 epic packs
is that like the only way to get los 30 xdd
swift tree
yo what do u guys think of the cash shop card pack 3 its 1500 rcs for 15 any, 10...
Terrible.
worn current
ffxiv might have more players than WoW not sure
dawn yacht
star wars mmo will save us
swift tree
star wars mmo will save us
There's been 2 already, first one was killed by the leaders of AGS
dusky leaf
yeah i think cards from the cash shop are hella toxic but i dont see a legit way to get los 30 within a reasonable time
tardy tusk
How many players have wow now?
swift tree
SWTOR at least has OCE servers 
tardy tusk
dawn yacht
frail swallow
I tought the game died
SWTOR? Not at all
void grove
yo guys i search an answer for a very difficult question xD
urban obsidian
Cool
frail swallow
Though, to be fair, while SWTOR is an MMORPG its honestly better played as any normal like singleplayer RPG by bioware
fresh flint
@late portal Are you ready yet
frail swallow
The actual like MMORPG content like dungeons and such are...meh
ancient tundra
Though, to be fair, while SWTOR **is** an MMORPG its honestly better played as a...
It s more for the story?
void grove
so me and my friend were playing this game and we reached 24 level and my friend somehow went to fight in a castle scenario and did 10 levels just like that xD
what happened there
frail swallow
It s more for the story?
Pretty much, yeah. Its free to play base, and has an "optional" subscription but you can just sub once and they give you all of the expansion and DLC content permanently up to the most recently released one.
ancient tundra
Ohh that s nice
frail swallow
Not a bad model, but F2P has restrictions...kind of dumb af restrictions for the MMORPG aspect of it but just playing it like a singleplayer game thats negligible
void grove
yoo please someone answer xD
keen copper
frail swallow
what happened there
Did you not also do that same mission?
void grove
we were all doin same missions
ancient tundra
Either he has a xp boost
void grove
and suddenly he went into home screen and was in fighting scene
wintry depot
Did he use powerpass
tardy tusk
why is bro sending a normal hanu in hellacademy's trial hanu channel
mokoko icon
ancient tundra
why is bro sending a normal hanu in hellacademy's trial hanu channel
Ah that person
Is here
Mizu
urban obsidian
Ah that person
dull obsidian
Oh
urban obsidian
yeh ik
dull obsidian
I thought franbunny quit
frail swallow
how can u get free powerpass
One is given to you for free so long as you are Trusted. What level is your friend now? Specifically.
void grove
One is given to you for free so long as you are Trusted. What level is your frie...
im 24 lvl in lakebar doin quests
worn current
Lol
void grove
staying afk now to find answers xd
kindred ravine
@balmy bramble atleast spell fraud right
frail swallow
im 24 lvl in lakebar doin quests
Not your level, your friends level.
void grove
so he got 46 lvl in other server
dull obsidian
no
keen copper
why is bro sending a normal hanu in hellacademy's trial hanu channel
LMFAO
wintry depot
Why u say other server
wintry depot
U said hes doing castle mission so i guess hes 34
void grove
yes yes xD arna
wintry depot
So i guess he did use powerpass
void grove
im trying to understand how he got 10 lvls for free
dull obsidian
Wuwa not my type of game
void grove
and went into castle scene
balmy bramble
<@569585332639760406> atleast spell fraud right
oh mb man diden't see xdding going now to edit
imagine
kindred ravine
Wuwa not my type of game
you literally play apex legends. it's the same thing
frail swallow
im trying to understand how he got 10 lvls for free
Your friend likely used the powerpass and is going through the "summary" story that can normally be skipped.
void grove
so how did he use the powerpass without paying u say xD
tardy tusk
<:WorryWeirdBig:878991664239247401>
Have you tried the game?
tardy tusk
until what level?
dull obsidian
I can't play single player
frail swallow
so how did he use the powerpass without paying u say xD
Because there is an event running right now where one is given for free so long as you are Trusted on the game.
tardy tusk
I can't play single player
Eh?
rigid aurora
@wintry crypt @midnight marlin it's time to annoy tf out of both of you
tardy tusk
OH you want fully coop
worn current
WuWa blows genshin out the water
void grove
Because there is an event running right now where one is given for free so long ...
how can i be trusted
kindred ravine
spend money on steam i believe
frail swallow
how can i be trusted
?trusted
tawny gateBOT
FAQ for Trusted Status (may take a few days to update status)
Must spend at least 5 USD on steam account AND set up 2FA with mobile steam guard.
Details: Steam FAQ and Amazon Games Trusted Info
void grove
i see
urban obsidian
wintry depot
At least they are not immune
dull obsidian
Its why I can't stick with gachas for long
worn current
"Sir/madam/it"
wintry depot
Like the stupid fire rocks
dull obsidian
I think longest thing I played was FGO -> Arknights
void grove
@frail swallow hows the event called mate
tardy tusk
Hm
cedar zealot
safe lark
yes
frail swallow
<@140642421124890625> hows the event called mate
It doesn't really have a name, its just something they do for every new class release and this one is from when Breaker released in March. The pass itself is delivered to your mail ingame.
safe lark
rigid aurora
void grove
@frail swallow i ve got another question
why lost ark in my steam doesnt show bro
i gotta go with link in there
frail swallow
why lost ark in my steam doesnt show bro
I do not know. Maybe its something with your Library settings.
rigid aurora
hello kind sir/madam/it if i may be so intrusive
urban obsidian
tardy tusk
I was brought up with MMOs
Lucky, i enjoy both game, coop and singles
frail swallow
hello kind sir/madam/it if i may be so intrusive
Will you stop changing your Discord name?
tidal sleet
hello kind sir/madam/it if i may be so intrusive
rigid aurora
Will you stop changing your Discord name?
wdym
wind dagger
tidal sleet
Esex goblino
rigid aurora
life's hard when you're hot and sexy fr fr
ancient tundra
Undeserved
nova garden
life's hard when you're hot and sexy fr fr
Proof?
rigid aurora
Proof?
i would show but my face reveal is on cooldown for another 1 year, 6 months, 14 days, 12 hours and 5 minutes
hell yeah
fresh flint
@late portal HEY
nova garden
i would show but my face reveal is on cooldown for another 1 year, 6 months, 14 ...
Ok
fresh flint
wow kaya hard gives so much gold!
ancient tundra
wow kaya hard gives so much gold!
Nice gold bro
fresh flint
UMMMM
ancient tundra
Chrissy
low nebula
huh
ancient tundra
What happened
ancient tundra
G3 ?
fresh flint
better than the slayer that was half an inch from shadow
and just went PLOP
yeah g3
ancient tundra
Ts who
sand marsh
ancient tundra
Cd
turbid oriole
GAMBLE
ancient tundra
Pls be cd
urban obsidian
fresh flint
CD CD CD
ancient tundra
fresh flint
turbid oriole
if its dmg i call dibs
low nebula
rmt
ancient tundra
Bruhhh
turbid oriole
i called dibs
sand marsh
fuck ytall
ancient tundra
Blocked
turbid oriole
mail it here
fresh flint
he's clearly hacking
kindred ravine
no way new elfuego anime girl goth emo chick pfper
urban obsidian
this game is dogshit man
ancient tundra
Goth girls are hot
dawn yacht
urban obsidian
dawn yacht
Goth girls are hot
valid turtle
<@196481929057402880> step yo game up next week
kindred ravine
https://tenor.com/view/goth-girl-goth-girl-green-hair-goth-girl-kiss-its-deitsel...
that oone at the end is not a goth girl wtf
dawn yacht
that oone at the end is not a goth girl wtf
valid turtle
10s when
late portal
frail shard
i cant sleep
urban obsidian
what the fuck
fresh flint
i cant sleep
drink some melk
dawn yacht
what the fuck
name
valid turtle
what the fuck
mental illness
valid turtle
im thinking of getting my full level 10s for my enhanced weapon build
do it 
urban obsidian
mental illness
this is mental illness
kindred ravine
what the fuck
no shot that person is on your friends list
dawn yacht
he munching
sand marsh
i win every time
urban obsidian
no shot that person is on your friends list
they arent?
late portal
late portal
late portal
because i was told to
valid turtle
late portal
not like i wanted to
late portal
with a parachute yes
fresh flint
late portal
fresh flint
IN ANOTHER WORLD BABY
yeah well ima fart on your pillow
valid turtle
where the fuck are the day before reset akkan lobbies
here...im in one
ancient tundra
he tried to jail me
Who wouldn't
sand marsh
im jus the main character
urban obsidian
lets see if this one works
sand marsh
i always win
urban obsidian
do the yoinky sploinky
fresh flint
Who wouldn't
ima jail u in brel next week
sand marsh
it works
ancient tundra
Akkan ivory
fresh flint
cap
urban obsidian
wtf
ancient tundra
And now thaemine
fresh flint
How far into thae u got
urban obsidian
erm
ancient tundra
I reached 1610
urban obsidian
ancient tundra
At bad day
urban obsidian
im gonna take that as a yes
ancient tundra
Bro
ancient tundra
Chrissy
ancient tundra
1610
fresh flint
ancient tundra
Wasn't t in the plans
fresh flint
bro
ancient tundra
At all
ancient tundra
Oho
fresh flint
burnt tree
ancient tundra
<:kekpray:906941157702000650>
Bro I saw a lobby today
Applied
Was named
G1 g2 prog
Not learning
Got in
But disbanded cause no one applied
ancient tundra
We were only 3
urban obsidian
wtf
ancient tundra
he kicked me out
Karma
fresh flint
ancient tundra
@burnt tree gl tomorrow
fresh flint
rude asf
burnt tree
idk
urban obsidian
burnt tree
nobody told me anything
urban obsidian
ez
burnt tree
might just
burnt tree
new expansion just launced but
ancient tundra
It s boring ?
late portal
ancient tundra
Welp
dawn yacht
late portal
burnt tree
doing anything in the new destination = error code
burnt tree
that means no story
ancient tundra
Damn
burnt tree
and im doing it on my own
burnt tree
on the hardest difficulty
ancient tundra
fresh flint
Come we do kakul
burnt tree
so im already taking too long
late portal
im about to do my voldis on gungar
fresh flint
oh glhf
ancient tundra
on the hardest difficulty
Man
fresh flint
ancient tundra
They are desperate
ancient tundra
burnt tree
atleast i meet Queen Mommy again
ancient tundra
kindred ravine
oh homelander-kun came out in mk1 today
kindred ravine
tidal sleet
they have to keep progressing as well
vagrant cradle
fresh flint
stoic gull
what timer are accs reset to if you make a bid on something thats about to end?
i know some reset to 5min but i feel like there are some that only reset to 1min
fresh flint
well yeah that's where the express event leaves them
but you couldnt even make it there smh shame
tidal sleet
soon the entire game will consist of 90% bots, 9% rice farmers, 1% giga whales buying from the rest
fresh flint
ancient tundra
THESE CRUSTY DUSTY ASS MFS
Chrissy
tidal sleet
oh sorry, 0.9% whales, 0.1% actual players who cant quit
kindred ravine
but you couldnt even make it there smh shame
i can do akkan?? i just don't have the patience to make a learning party for it
turbid oriole
i can do akkan?? i just don't have the patience to make a learning party for it
just imposter
#freebubu
kindred ravine
u have to learn valtan first lil bro
mfer you probably forgot how to do valtan
vagrant cradle
cant wait to avoid lobbies with SA chatacters
kindred ravine
vagrant cradle
stark thicket
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turbid oriole
cant wait to avoid lobbies with SA chatacters
JAJAJAJA
vagrant cradle
ancient tundra
mfer you probably forgot how to do valtan
No one forgets valtan
turbid oriole
BRAZIL #1
ancient tundra
Dw
uncut dirge
do you guys buy hard IT chest even when you have 40 set?
kindred ravine
why tf would i want to do valtan
turbid oriole
do you guys buy hard IT chest even when you have 40 set?
if ure pushing that char
uncut dirge
if ure pushing that char
ty
tulip charm
cant wait to avoid lobbies with SA chatacters
Bueno, practice your Spanish for the sa merge
ancient tundra
Izu if u go in akkan
kindred ravine
YEAH LET ME HOP ON
fresh flint
Carry you to 1k gold ez
ancient tundra
Badly
ancient tundra
You need to know 1
fresh flint
kindred ravine
i probably only know valtan, i know a little of clown from when i ran it with martian
ancient tundra
In g2 u can die it s wtv
kindred ravine
and only know g1-2 brel
ancient tundra
Ye
tidal sleet
so just die and say it was an accident
fresh flint
fresh flint
akkan groups now days will vote to quit to replace people that die first
they are ruthless af
fresh flint
yeah
tulip charm
akkan groups now days will vote to quit to replace people that die first
Akkan groups now hold stagger in g1 if it explodes it explodes