lost-ark-discussions

[teal thistle]

They better make those SOLO MODE raids hard unless they want millions of bots taking advangage of solo mode raids XDDDD

[ancient tundra]

@burnt tree I got the new sung skill u can roll it now

[sand marsh]

cause every low level cube i was in with bots

[tulip charm]

In g4 ? Sometimes it feels like it

[sand marsh]

I had to leave.

[ancient tundra]

With almighty break

[burnt tree]

Nice

[cedar zealot]

Lost ark is a p2w game so monetization doesn't matter. Smg/AGS should undercut the bots and let me buy lvl 10 gems for 10 bucks, game saved and I have now acquired 6x paladin roster

[supple parrot]

yes, there is only 1 kind of bot out there.

[ancient tundra]

Bro that shit so broken

[teal thistle]

I encountered a few bots at Theamine HM bro tut

[ancient tundra]

Like wtf

[supple parrot]

and u have seen all the cube bots

[swift tree]

G2-3. Was a bard that kept going to the Party 1 spot for spot 4, but as party 2.
Said nothing entire raid.
Only said "Sorry" once and that was when they wiped the raid.
Kept running around in patterns and using skills, not following players.

[teal thistle]

One of the dumbest idea ever TuT

[sand marsh]

I've seen enough to know the bots don't work that well in cubes.

Generally.

[cedar zealot]

Better than letting the bots run rampant

[supple parrot]

the bots that work in cube, dont need to join mm for cube, they jsut do cube themselves

u idiot

[faint grove]

those are el cheapo suicide bots

[teal thistle]

Wait for ChatGPT5 bots bro, just wait

[supple parrot]

ju would not see them

ever

[faint grove]

the good bots probs do cube and raids easily

[still lintel]

when does tower vigor reset? weekly?

[sand marsh]

so why are they matchmaking cube then

[faint grove]

but the good bots wouldnt matchmake

[supple parrot]

cuz those are the trash bots that some dumb ass made

themselves

[swift tree]

gems

[supple parrot]

not actual bots that generating

all the gems and gold

[cedar zealot]

I wanna know this as well cause I didn't do it last week

[sand marsh]

Barachan I know why they do cube.. wasnt my question lol

[tulip charm]

There is a thread on Reddit I saw catering to this, some interesting comments, let me see if I can dig it up

[swift tree]

bi-weekly. Have to kiss a weekboy and a weekgirl.

[teal thistle]

thre are 2 kinds of bots, the company bots and the player bots

Player bots are dumb

[supple parrot]

scalp have u ever seen a chaos bot in match making chaos?

[teal thistle]

Company bots can do Challenge guardians and sht

[supple parrot]

no? there must be no chaos bots then

[sand marsh]

I have, yes.

[supple parrot]

[teal thistle]

Different scripts

[tough lark]

Guys, now this is the official Lost Ark discord where are the devs are or the other certificated one?

[swift tree]

they mm on hopes that a random player will carrry, same way some people mm with 1490s that have no gems/engravings

[tulip charm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1d2dir5/please_dont_lie_about_your_progress_in_party/

[teal thistle]

Devs are busy bro

they drinking coffee

[swift tree]

Busy streaming to make extra money.

[faint grove]

cuz everyone thinks they're better than they are so they deserve to play with better players

[midnight marlin]

it doesnt

[swift tree]

oof

[midnight marlin]

you have to reset a stage if you want to change what team to use later

[teal thistle]

They busy planning our LOAON SUMMER where they will showcase UE5 update, gold nerf till 1650 etx

Just wait

[sand marsh]

They can go the route of making some gold sources 'personal gold', that can only be used to hone. like una tokens. I know a lot of bots gold come from unas. Don't ask me how I know.

[teal thistle]

...

[burnt tree]

There's no UE5 update

[swift tree]

./s

[midnight marlin]

@cedar zealot

[teal thistle]

don't hurt my feelings like that...

[still lintel]

what a shit system

[burnt tree]

They said they can do it but its a long term kind of thing if they do

[teal thistle]

They already started before they said that, dw

[midnight marlin]

someother gachas have a similar system

[swift tree]

Ikr, what does it think it is... LOA?

[ancient tundra]

Ye they would have to remake everything from scratch

[burnt tree]

Naturally

[swift tree]

[tulip charm]

I myself encountered this last week when I tried a few “basement prog” pts, apparently EVERY basement pt = can’t make it past sword or first clash without 2 dead

[faint grove]

doubt, you can probably convert a ton of assets from ue4 to ue5

[teal thistle]

Yep yep, they could use old 3d models tho, but it will looks weird, having a super polished world with old 3d models

[sand marsh]

Una Tokens being personal gold is a good start. But I can't think of a way to stop bots from generating gems to sell. And fish isn't super lucrative from my understanding.

[still lintel]

wuwa taking inspiration for the best game ever LOST ARK

[swift tree]

UE3 is not the same.

[cedar zealot]

Ah ok thank you, guess I'll check it out on the weekend

[teal thistle]

LA is UE3

[ancient tundra]

Ye la is u3

[faint grove]

oh

[teal thistle]

Impossible to port from UE3 to 5

[ancient tundra]

Lost ark 2 angle

[cedar zealot]

How long till summer Loa fest, did they announce a date yet

[faint grove]

basement prog means you made it to basement once more or less

[burnt tree]

Yeah you gotta remake the game

[teal thistle]

But don't worry, ZOOMINPARK is working on it

As we speak

[supple parrot]

ur not gonna stop bots stricter bans are working alot of ppl are scared to rmt atm

[burnt tree]

Pretty much

Zoomin Park can't do shit lol

[swift tree]

UE3 uses different physics libraries, different format for its programming langues, is NOT object-oriented and has a whole different setup for its SDK.

[cedar zealot]

Reveal on June 4th

[ancient tundra]

About2cook

[teal thistle]

Like i said you COULD use all the old 3d models and textures

[burnt tree]

Echidnas tig biddies can vouch for this

[faint grove]

is loaon on june 4th?

[sand marsh]

You think negative gold + 3 day ban is strict?

[swift tree]

UE4/5 are basically the same engine, the same way Creation 2.0 is the same as Skyrim's Creation Kit.

[sand marsh]

Strict to me, is perma deletion, forever.

[ancient tundra]

Ue5 echidna

[cedar zealot]

Nah, it's mobile game showcase

[supple parrot]

? who tells u 3day bans? ppl in my static literally got 1 month ban

[teal thistle]

And start updating starting from Voldis for example

[burnt tree]

Within the last two weeks of June

[sand marsh]

3 days, 1 month, 7 days.

[burnt tree]

But there's no official date

Afaik

[sand marsh]

still not strict if you ask me.

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[sand marsh]

If you RMT to 1650 and get a 1 month ban who cares

[teal thistle]

Imagine the physics

[sand marsh]

not strict

[supple parrot]

he got 1 month ban for buyin 2 lv10 gems

[ancient tundra]

Ikr

[burnt tree]

Me. Cause im addicted

[tulip charm]

Also why the render on Nineveh looks really bad in thaemine cutscenes

[supple parrot]

no where close to 1650

the fuck u talkin about

[ancient tundra]

Oh nyo

[supple parrot]

making shit up

[cedar zealot]

Since when does Zheng like biddies

[burnt tree]

Wait

[ancient tundra]

[burnt tree]

No

[sand marsh]

I'm not saying your specific 'friend' lol.

I'm saying in general.

[supple parrot]

who are u talkin about then

[teal thistle]

Honesty if i get a 1 month ban thats a quit angle for me

[burnt tree]

Final Shape next week, Dawntrail end of June

[supple parrot]

just random shit u heard on reddit?

[burnt tree]

Nah im good actually

[supple parrot]

no specific person?

[swift tree]

Realtime physics still wouldn't be ideal for an MMORPG, makes balancing an absolute fuck-load harder.

[sand marsh]

People get negative for millions of gold and only get a 3-7 day ban.

They should be perma'd

[supple parrot]

says who?

[faint grove]

they should get negative gold equal to 5 times what they rmted and no access to broker/trading until they've earned it back through legit swiping or raiding and they should be muted aswell until its paid back

[tulip charm]

[sand marsh]

Says who? People I know who got dq'ed??

[supple parrot]

if u get -4 mil gold thats good

[burnt tree]

Oh yeah actually

[supple parrot]

they now have to swipe 4 mil gold or not interact with anything

[cedar zealot]

Thought you were hon(ING)sexual

[mortal sluice]

its pure rng what you get

[teal thistle]

Nah, just a negative gold + a roll back to 1 month before they did the first purchase thats better

[mortal sluice]

ppl in my team got 7 day ban and no - gold

[burnt tree]

Make any gold besides unas and raids discarded

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-weirdmods-gif-21195215
If Echidna actually had jiggle physics

[sand marsh]

I think negative gold is fucking stupid. Just perma them.

[mortal sluice]

and we also had ppl dqd with no ban at all

[swift tree]

If Echidna actually had jiggle physics

[sand marsh]

idk why that's so hard

[faint grove]

heard they can just rmt more gold to earn back the 4m though

[burnt tree]

I mean her tiddies

[supple parrot]

then the game would be dead

[supple parrot]

then remove it again and give them -8 mil

[mortal sluice]

perma someone doesnt gain you money, if you know the account is a heavy spender you wouldnt perma him

[burnt tree]

That's fine

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

Final fantasy was dead, then a realm reborn happened

[burnt tree]

We'd all be free of this

[faint grove]

only people who say "game is dead" if rmters get banned are the rmters

[swift tree]

It would look like that.

[faint grove]

[sand marsh]

just do that

[tulip charm]

They should make a rmt tag once you get unbanned, if you die at akkan and he resurrect you back to fight your teammates, when they kill your zombie it drops gold and gems

[cedar zealot]

Has your static buddy been unbanned yet @supple parrot

[supple parrot]

no, it havent been a month

[burnt tree]

Not the same situation at all

[supple parrot]

[faint grove]

just ban all rmters

[sand marsh]

Yeah they are monetizing bans. Which means they don't really care that you rmt'ed.

[cedar zealot]

I wonder if he will have negative gold too

[tulip charm]

I am not bruh

[mortal sluice]

if LA dies its dead for good

[supple parrot]

idk

[mortal sluice]

they care about your money

banning a paying customer is stupid

slap him on the wrist

[faint grove]

the only people who thinks everyone rmts are rmters who try to justify rmting, the amount of the population that actually rmts is most likely quite small

[mortal sluice]

and let him play

[cedar zealot]

I think these RMT bans are bad for the game.

1. the bans are not consistent across the board
2. most of the endgame Raiders already RMT

[burnt tree]

Everyones a stinky RMTr

[supple parrot]

its not everyone, but its defin not small

[burnt tree]

Tsk tsk

[faint grove]

yeah it probably is small

[mortal sluice]

its defintly not small

[burnt tree]

Like Chuan

[cedar zealot]

What they should focus on is how to limit the bots cause they were causing servers issues

[sand marsh]

Yeah the slap on the wrist is the problem. And I know you can't perma them now because the game would die, I'm just speaking from a perspective when the game was alive.

[supple parrot]

very few ppl are f2p like ya boy

[swift tree]

• Amazon won't bother reviving it, they'll move onto a new game.
• Smilegate will chalk it up to "cultural differences" and not bother again.

[burnt tree]

You're not f2p

Why lie

[cedar zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/f2p-btw-f2p-btw-yae-yae-miko-f2p-gif-24039851

[burnt tree]

Mr Platinum Pack

[faint grove]

just because you spend your time around rmters doesnt mean everyone does

[mortal sluice]

they did tho? back in the day you got permad without a doubt if you rmtd a big amount

[swift tree]

Only big reason for no EoS at the moment is that AGS only has 2 successful games so far.

• New World, which was a critical flop slowly becoming better
• Lost Ark a critical launch success, that's "past its prime"

[mortal sluice]

like 1m+

[tulip charm]

What’s the other game that’s successful?

[mortal sluice]

its just that they reverted the bans after around 6-8 month

[sand marsh]

Yeah I heard stories of that, but as it is now, it was not consistent. That's the problem.

Yeah they backpedaled

[mortal sluice]

it never was consistent

[sand marsh]

there's that too

[mortal sluice]

the entire system is dogshit

[swift tree]

New World, technically.

[supple parrot]

they handed out alot of 1 year bans

[burnt tree]

If it was consistent Asuun wouldn't be here

[supple parrot]

[cedar zealot]

He won a giveaway so that doesn't count. Still f2p

[tulip charm]

I thought that game tanked ages ago via gold duplication and other wierd stuff

[swift tree]

Asuun allegedly swiped directly to AGS

[burnt tree]

Or Chuan

[supple parrot]

didn't vivi in this discord get hit by a 1 year ban before? i thought he quit but turns out he got 1 year ban, he came back recently

[burnt tree]

And im the King of England

[swift tree]

Playerbase tanked, but game is still up and open.

[burnt tree]

But ok he got half of it legit

[mortal sluice]

yo share the wealth homie?

[swift tree]

Then they added mounts to NW and some people came back.

[burnt tree]

You don't need it ure 1655

[faint grove]

wdym chuan is purely f2p, he just happened to stumble across a bunch of lvl 10 gems and gold

[mortal sluice]

how do you know how much gold i got

[swift tree]

YOU ARE?!? Then... WHY THE FUCK did you go with the Echidna portrait?

[mortal sluice]

i dont even know

[sand marsh]

I don't blam people for RMT'ing. But I also blame amazon for not doing much about it. It is what it is. I don't think the game will die because of bots though. PoE has a bot problem and that community is still alive.

[mortal sluice]

i blame people who buy botted gold

[tulip charm]

You never know sometimes you think people quit but they’ve always been playing, saw raiden recruiting the other day

[burnt tree]

Because Echidna >>

[faint grove]

you should blame people for rmting lol, they're the entire issue

[mortal sluice]

cause ur shit if you do

idc if you buy from players honestly

[burnt tree]

I meant the Sidereal crystals

[mortal sluice]

especially quitting players

[burnt tree]

[mortal sluice]

couldnt give less shit about that

doesnt actually hurt anyone if you do

[supple parrot]

bro if they deleted bots from poe it would be unplayable, certain ingame trades are 100% faciliated by bots

[burnt tree]

Buying from bots is why they are still here

[sand marsh]

Nah I don't blame people for RMT'ing. It's a p2w game. You are going to a cheaper source. I don't blame people for doing that.

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/amazon-server-gif-27101597

[faint grove]

no rmt = no bots

[burnt tree]

I do. DAMN CHEATERS

[tulip charm]

If they buy from ingame and get less idc, if they buy from some rice eaters oh wells, if they buy from some botters or 3rd party site they should get some negative gold

[supple parrot]

did serenade get hit by the ban wave?

[burnt tree]

Probably not

He doesn't buy botted gold

[sand marsh]

Would you go to a dispensary in CA to buy some weed or go to the guy down the street who has it 10 dollars cheaper. it's common sense.

[supple parrot]

dispensary

if ur a broke boi just say so

[mortal sluice]

no you buy it from the massive company who abuses child work ofc

[sand marsh]

people are broke. yeah

[sand marsh]

[burnt tree]

"If you're a broke boy just say so"

[sour glen]

LA will die , max 1 year

[burnt tree]

Good good

[faint grove]

except it wont.

[burnt tree]

Then ill be freeee

[mortal sluice]

can we quote him

for that

in a year from now

[cedar zealot]

I stopped playing a few weeks back then I checked going gold prices and I'd rather just let my stuff rot then

[supple parrot]

no it wont

[neon cedar]

I'd go to a dispensary because at least in Canada it's far safer and reasonably price.
Unlike irl drugs, in game gold vs RMT gold isn't reasonably priced

[cedar zealot]

Prices are worth dirt now

[sand marsh]

It will not die in a year lol.

[burnt tree]

LOA has around 2-3 more years tbh

[mortal sluice]

ppl think LA will die with 20k players

[sand marsh]

Lot of government shit is doo doo, but i cant speak on canada

[tulip charm]

This is a bad comparison, but I Remb someone asking where would u okay 1/3, 2/5 at, at your local casino with a rake or some home game

[mortal sluice]

the game can do good with 5k ccp

[supple parrot]

ya i heard its crazy cheap now cuz ppl are scared to rmt

[charred void]

imagine playing a ue3 game in 2030

[sour glen]

All west servers closed , i feel sorry for the guys who are still busing from release and play 24/7 fomo

[mortal sluice]

since ccp has jack shit to do with your actual playerbase

[burnt tree]

Blade and soul has like 2k players meanwhile

[sand marsh]

how is it a bad comparison zheng

it's the same ideology

[cedar zealot]

I don't think so. Didn't you guys do thaemine a few weeks ago

[supple parrot]

ya but there was a recent ban wave

that was weeks ago

[cedar zealot]

He buys hand farmed and organic gold

[burnt tree]

Serenade doesn't buy from bots, how will he get banned? xD

[mortal sluice]

hand picked

[sand marsh]

You buy from legal source, or illegal source and get hardly any repruccusions. Especially if you buy small amounts at a time, irregularly.

[sour glen]

Gl playing the brelshaza and akkan through 2025 , cause u wont be able to get alts to 1700

[swift tree]

MBIC people are still playing an MMO made in 90s Java

[faint grove]

would you rather buy a phone from a store or from a shady guy down the street who probbably stole it? if you pick the guy then you're the reason he's stealing.

[burnt tree]

Why you still here tho

[mortal sluice]

what are you even saying bro

[keen copper]

what is bro yapping about

[mortal sluice]

literally

gtfo

no one needs ur ass opinion

lmao

[burnt tree]

If game dies next year why u waste your time with us

[cedar zealot]

Maybe I should come back and reroll full pally roster

[burnt tree]

[supple parrot]

u might get robbed buyin from a rando shady dude, but u defin wont be if u buy from a legit dispensary

[burnt tree]

Lufy loves lost ark at this point. I am convinced

[thorn sluice]

I play akkan hm on my 1600 alts pretty ez, 1610/1620 accept me

Think

[supple parrot]

ok baldboi#2

[sour glen]

I want to get last achievements in game and quit in fashion , get all hell titles all mokokos , the first etc

[mortal sluice]

last achievment

what

[burnt tree]

Lol

[mortal sluice]

okay ur a clown

full on

actual clown

[sand marsh]

i've been in that enviorment for a long time, this doesn't really happen as often as you think.

[burnt tree]

Get all achievements on a game that shuts down oof

[sour glen]

We all saw u asuun progging with sidereal 2.5 weeks

[swift tree]

*Get All Steam Achievements

[mortal sluice]

oh ok?

[supple parrot]

but its still a non 0 risk, why would u risk that

[mortal sluice]

since my sideral

[swift tree]

Which is why you gotta push so hard for them to fix the Cube ones

[mortal sluice]

will just carry the raid solo

right

thats how it works

[ancient tundra]

Oopsie

[sour glen]

i expected u had more mature opinion for the game based on its condition with bots and rmters

[burnt tree]

Yeah Asuun

[sand marsh]

cause governement stuff is usually trash lol. but my point still stands, i can understand why people RMT. if the game only monetized skins that's it, then I would have a more negative opinion of people who RMT

[swift tree]

End of Service can come after these are done

[burnt tree]

You cheated with Balthorr didn't you?!

[mortal sluice]

yea i have a more mature opinion

its called knowing the difference between ccp and actual playerbase

[sand marsh]

But when the game literally sells you gold, i don't have much sympathy towards amazon losing profit.

cause it's shitty to do that to begin with

[mortal sluice]

but its ok since you ran out of arguments you better flame me for something you just made up

[faint grove]

its not about amazon losing profit

[mortal sluice]

the classic

[faint grove]

its that you give bots a reason to exist

[burnt tree]

Imagine if the gold value was reduced

[supple parrot]

its about ruinin the economy

[burnt tree]

[faint grove]

rmters are the sole reason botters exist

[mortal sluice]

yea totally

[burnt tree]

Tsk tsk invalid eclipse

[faint grove]

just like if you buy illegal weed you're the reason people are growing illegal weed

[mortal sluice]

i cheated so hard it took me a total of 3hrs to do tfm

crazy

[faint grove]

if theres no demand theres no supply

[sand marsh]

Yeah I don't have much sympathy for the economy being ruined when the game literally sells you gold. If it didn't sell gold and was a bit more ethical with monetization I'd have the opinion of some others.

[burnt tree]

Crazy

[mortal sluice]

meanwhile @sour glen hasnt even cleared tfm yet after what 5 weeks?

[charred void]

not looking good sir

[cedar zealot]

And rmters exist cause stuff in the shop are not priced well enough

[mortal sluice]

this

why is our shop

[swift tree]

Half of my remaining ones are PvP

[mortal sluice]

so utterly bad

monetized

[supple parrot]

i think we know ur stance on the subject, when u turned off screen and came back with 200k gold

[ancient tundra]

Almost free

[sand marsh]

I haven't really read the context here. is someone saying your bad or something?

[cedar zealot]

It makes sense for KR but not for our regions

[faint grove]

no they exist because they're greedy narcissists who only care about themself and dont give a fuck about the impact of their actions

[swift tree]

This ngl. How our version have been priced is so absolute dogshit.

[burnt tree]

Also the only good packs we had were the pose packs

[sand marsh]

you know i sold gems, cmon

[sour glen]

I didnt even clear g4 , i dont want to grind and loose my sanity with no hands people , want to go quick jn and out with minimal grind

[burnt tree]

I just wanted the poses but the value of the items in them was solid

[supple parrot]

just make lost ark ssf, disable trading

problem solved

[swift tree]

Excluding PvP/Duels, I'm mising those + Relic Tools

[ancient tundra]

Oh u have to keep playing rip

[burnt tree]

Just ban Chuans bot army

[mortal sluice]

he is saying LA is dead in a year and whe shouldnt care, and that i took 2.5 weeks to prog even with an esther (makes no sense as an argument)

[ancient tundra]

True

[mortal sluice]

i can hook you up with a bus np

just lmk

[burnt tree]

Can i get a free eclipse bus?

[mortal sluice]

sorry all booked out

[burnt tree]

Damn

[ancient tundra]

Full schedule

[sour glen]

I want to earn my stuff with my skill no thx, the achievements and accomplishment of getting something by myself is the last thing making me play this game

[ancient tundra]

[sand marsh]

2.5 weeks even with sidereal is really good. The First is not an accomplishment you can shove away because someone used sidereal. This is stupid.

[sullen plaza]

Euc up

[mortal sluice]

what skill?

[burnt tree]

But its a legit bus, not silly pilot Asuun

I wanna see your Doomsdays

[mortal sluice]

your skill is making shit up in a discord and flaming others?

[cedar zealot]

Just save up some gold and wait for behemoth, busses will be cheaper then

[burnt tree]

[burnt tree]

?

[mortal sluice]

i dont even need to see your gameplay to know you aint got skill

[burnt tree]

Behemoth is easy

[sand marsh]

You do realize even without sidereal he still would of cleared, right?

[burnt tree]

Why would i buy bus

[sand marsh]

Sidereal does not guarantee a clear by any means

what an idiot

[mortal sluice]

it wasnt even 2.5 weeks i cleared g4 hm after 2 weeks and took 3hrs to get eclipse

[faint grove]

maybe maybe not, who knows, it does make it easier

[burnt tree]

Im learning Thaemine now and its easy frfr

[sour glen]

Did i flame you sir ? I just said it took u 2.5 week to clear g4 thae which is a fact

[burnt tree]

(I'll never do g4)

[sand marsh]

He is a sorc. He isn't spamming balthors

pretty sure he isn't

[cedar zealot]

Behemoth +echidna gear progression will make the first bus easier and cheaper, that's what I meant

[ancient tundra]

Oh dw u will

[cedar zealot]

[mortal sluice]

its not tho

[ancient tundra]

[burnt tree]

If the First is still here by Behemoth

[mortal sluice]

you cant even spam it

[burnt tree]

Technically it should be

[mortal sluice]

i had like 3 uses of it

[faint grove]

buying a bus for something thats an "achievement" is just sad though

[mortal sluice]

on tfm g4

[burnt tree]

But still

[sand marsh]

Why would you even bring that up? Have you cleared it? Bringing it up makes it sound like you are flaming him for 'taking 2.5 weeks'.

[mortal sluice]

like this

[swift tree]

Asuun is right here. KR players had to rotate across their party for Siderial uptime.

[mortal sluice]

is such a weak argument to bring

when you yourself

[thorn sluice]

[sand marsh]

Yeah that is an obvious flame comment.

[cedar zealot]

I don't care about it but some do, they want their shiny title

[mortal sluice]

havent even touched it

[burnt tree]

Touch THIS

Regardless

[sand marsh]

The 1st group to clear in KR wasn't even sidereal users

from my understanding

[mortal sluice]

1 esther weapon does jck shit to your party

[burnt tree]

Who cares how long he took

[mortal sluice]

its not even gonna provide you 3% of dmg

[faint grove]

yeah it was, they a had half the raid using sidereals at least

[tulip charm]

https://discord.com/channels/212635560596996097/1242955029045051433

free magical girl costume

[charred void]

yeah ok cool, but where server

[gleaming pendant]

you trolling bro...?

[mortal sluice]

the 2nd or 3rd wasnt

[sand marsh]

Maybe I am misremembering.

[faint grove]

2nd or 3rd wasnt yeah

[swift tree]

Half the raid was, but they were also 1650 primarily.

[burnt tree]

You are

[sand marsh]

Ah ok it was 2nd/3rd then

[burnt tree]

[thorn sluice]

Who deleted my gif

[sand marsh]

Asuun point stands though, 1 sidereal user doesn't do much. When the hardest part of the raid is not damage, it's staying alive.

[burnt tree]

Me

[thorn sluice]

[cedar zealot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1017444004226416760/1183728907967533108/voices_mokoko.gif

[thorn sluice]

Why

[mortal sluice]

anyway if you wanna have an actual argument maybe you shouldnt come into a LA discord an say this game is shit and will die in a year, then proceed to make up lies @sour glen

[burnt tree]

Yeah Thaemine is easy

[mortal sluice]

maybe then ppl would actually considere your opinion

[burnt tree]

Just dodge

[sour glen]

@mortal sluice i only brought that up cause i am a hater , but its not a flame comment , also game doesnt have 20k players

[thorn sluice]

[burnt tree]

[faint grove]

game is definitely shit

[mortal sluice]

how many players does it have

[ancient tundra]

Me

[mortal sluice]

tell me

[tulip charm]

what if your argument is they watch asmongold vids and whenever he spams a game being dead then its dead

[sour glen]

6k

[burnt tree]

Tell us AGS insider

Source?

[mortal sluice]

how do you know

[sand marsh]

im curious, why are you a hater

[keen copper]

[faint grove]

6k is far too low

[sand marsh]

what did asuun do to your poor soul

[mortal sluice]

where do you get this number

[sour glen]

Because he has the money and i dont

[gleaming pendant]

everytime zheng types, its always asmon or some dented shit

[tulip charm]

its cool being a doomer in 2024 everyone does it

[sour glen]

I am saying the truth

[burnt tree]

Atleast you're honest

[supple parrot]

it has a lot more than 6k players, and most ppl are too stupid to know the difference between concurrent player base and total player base

[sand marsh]

Yeah, honesty is nice, but that's kinda cringe

[swift tree]

And people listen to his dumbass.
Same asshat who is espousing the blackrock DEI conspiracy about it ruining gaming.

[mortal sluice]

yea he does not get that

he looks at steam

and sees 33k

[cedar zealot]

Game has about 10-20k players, not super healthy but not super dead

[tulip charm]

[burnt tree]

Yeah people don't understand how the chart works

[mortal sluice]

10-20k ccp

[supple parrot]

ppl dont realize that everyone isnt always online, concurrent does not = total players

[mortal sluice]

playerbase is much larger

[cedar zealot]

Yeah

[gleaming pendant]

@supple parrot tell us how many of your bots are online previously

[mortal sluice]

please dont say ccp is the playerbase

[cedar zealot]

Not every active player is playing at any given point

[gleaming pendant]

so we can estimate the playerbase

[mortal sluice]

there is a massive differnce

[supple parrot]

how bout u tell me how many times u sucked my dick today

bitch

[faint grove]

yeah you can multiply concurrent a couple of times to get the real playerbase

[gleaming pendant]

you have no dick tho

[swift tree]

Doesn't Steam DB not count people who are invisible anyhow?

[gleaming pendant]

pussy mudafucka

[supple parrot]

👏

[thorn sluice]

[sand marsh]

Pretty sure it counts whoever clicks the "play" button.

[cedar zealot]

Did you clear thae g4 yet

[sand marsh]

Whether showing online or not ingame

[sour glen]

I would prefer to swipe like asuun , than doing busses 24/7 since release , at least when servers close , i wouldnt feel bad , because its money that went gone like we buy ps2-ps3 games and they go poof , but all the fomo and 24/7 cant be forgotten

[gleaming pendant]

learning it with my group, not yet

[swift tree]

kk, know what one was meant at me. watchout tho. Kae may block you 😛

[burnt tree]

True, bots don't have dcks

[thorn sluice]

[mortal sluice]

idc if my money is lost lol

[sand marsh]

Bro what are you saying?

[mortal sluice]

i spend on LA cause its a hobby

i could give jack shit about it

[sand marsh]

Why are you doing busses 24/7 since release?

You don't need to do that

[mortal sluice]

cause he fomos

[cedar zealot]

You spent your time compared to someone who spent money, both are equal in value imo

[tulip charm]

anyone have issues with the latest adblock it fks up your youtube vids

[mortal sluice]

and now he is mad

[gleaming pendant]

why are you giving a shit over how ppl spent their money? it's not yours my guy.

[sand marsh]

Fomo of what? You can hit 1630 without bussing

[gleaming pendant]

he wanna buy esther8 its on him

[swift tree]

[sand marsh]

and be ready for echidna

[gaunt apex]

guys how do i get trusted status on lost ark? i purchased the founder pack back in 2022 when the game first came out and i just recently started playing again, i just got to item lvl 1435 and ive spent like $200 on the game but i still cant trade my friends or use the market/auction house

[gleaming pendant]

not you

[gleaming pendant]

?trusted

[mortal sluice]

you wait

[tawny gate]

FAQ for Trusted Status (may take a few days to update status)
Must spend at least 5 USD on steam account AND set up 2FA with mobile steam guard.
Details: Steam FAQ and Amazon Games Trusted Info

[supple parrot]

y u didnt clear with nova

[burnt tree]

Can you get me a Chair mount chest while we are at it. 150k is too much

[gaunt apex]

yea i cant claim my daily rewards or trade my friends

[gaunt apex]

do you know how long?

[gleaming pendant]

he progged with another group from day 1

[mortal sluice]

no

[sour glen]

Money can be easily forgotten if servers close , cause u had them in the first hand and chose to spend them at your will , and all good

But the effort stays

[gleaming pendant]

and our other friend group only reached hm tgt like 2 weeks ago now

[burnt tree]

Could be one day or a weem

[mortal sluice]

it makes no sense what you are saying tho

[supple parrot]

bunch of rosey ass loser mfs

[sand marsh]

wait did nova clear TFM?

[swift tree]

NGL, Akkan (but specifically JUST for someone like me) is a big reason for preventing progress for roster.
Would have 6x 1600s but can't get gear.

[supple parrot]

ya, like a week before u

[gaunt apex]

ive been playing for 100 hours so far and havent gotten it yet

[burnt tree]

You pay to watch a movie and then the movie ends

[sour glen]

Exactly

[sand marsh]

oh nice, good for him.

[burnt tree]

You will ask for a refund?

[sand marsh]

i had a feeling he cleared

[burnt tree]

Lmao

[sour glen]

So if i invest 200k euros and game closes next day

I dont care

[gleaming pendant]

then why you givng a shit

about asunn now?

[gaunt apex]

also the game kinda stinks, one of my friends started with me and she got banned for lvl 5 botting even though we both only play the game together

[burnt tree]

Im not rich and i spend money too I don't cry about it

[mortal sluice]

just appeal

its common

[cursive ruin]

erm amazon were s erber?

[cedar zealot]

All the stress you endured will leave a mark on your health sure, but you chose to do this knowing the outcome

[mortal sluice]

to prevent actual bots

[peak loom]

Ags where server

[ancient tundra]

Up your ass

[swift tree]

NAE for Akkan is like this most of my playtime istg.

[gaunt apex]

yea she got unbanned now but its still crazy they ban players for no reason

[sand marsh]

Your take is so dent.

[cursive ruin]

ok come reach for it

[sand marsh]

i'm about2slur

[sour glen]

All i am saying is if game closes within a year it will only bresk the hearts of the bussees and fomos and not rmters or swipers

[mortal sluice]

there is no take

[thorn sluice]

When did the maint start ?

[cursive ruin]

if ur friend was an actual bot he wouldn't have gotten banned

[ancient tundra]

Yes

[cursive ruin]

good luck next time

[supple parrot]

rly, i did akkan today on nae and was fine

[sour glen]

It doesnt have to do with asuun

[mortal sluice]

actual dent

[peak loom]

Ahy9o9oo9óooo

[burnt tree]

They target new players/accounts cause of bots. If ure legit they unban tho

[thorn sluice]

[sour glen]

Asuun i am just a hater

[mortal sluice]

okay so you just hate on me with 0 reason

[sand marsh]

No it wouldn't? I know whales that bus and play a fuck ton.

[mortal sluice]

fair

[sour glen]

Its 2 different topics

[mortal sluice]

lmk your twitch name

[sand marsh]

It would hurt anyone who gives a shit about the game.

[mortal sluice]

so i can ban you off my stream

[burnt tree]

Rofl

[mortal sluice]

cba dealing with you ever again

[thorn sluice]

Asun he is just baiting you hard

[gaunt apex]

yea she got unbanned but we saw like 100 bots when we started 2 weeks ago and then just yesterday we saw all those bots again lvl 50 running around following one guy

[cedar zealot]

I was spending hours last few weeks in pf trying to get my 6x akkans done while being +20ilvl. Not enough lobbies and most lobbies had sup shortage

[thorn sluice]

Why do you always get caught ?

Holy shit

[sand marsh]

I don't think he is baiting.

[burnt tree]

Yeah we got these fkers

[sand marsh]

I think that man is actually dented

[thorn sluice]

If you get caught every time som1 trying to bait you

You are doomed man

[faint grove]

it do be like that sometimes

[mortal sluice]

he isnt baiting

he is actually dented

[thorn sluice]

He is baiting

You

[burnt tree]

Rip tier 3 sub

[thorn sluice]

Just ignore him

Holy shit

[faint grove]

hella bored of akkan and brel and ivory

[sand marsh]

What could he be baiting him into? Telling him he is a fuckin idiot? lmao

[mortal sluice]

its fine i dont think you have to tell me who to ignore

[burnt tree]

Get a life, Lufy fr

[ancient tundra]

[cedar zealot]

You too Greek boi, how far into wuwa are you even

[burnt tree]

See nothing happend

[ancient tundra]

True

[charred void]

guy would be shocked if he knew about mobile games who eos after like a year and people spend a lot more money on them

[sand marsh]

im a hater too man. hater cause you dont play on NAE. madge

[burnt tree]

DB rank 12 Union 31

[mortal sluice]

sorry i play on a cool region :(

[burnt tree]

Been progging Thaemine sooo no much time to grind

[sand marsh]

what the

[gaunt apex]

is there a channel in here to show people how to do the legion raids?

[thorn sluice]

It looked like some- had to tell you it, you couldn’t realize he just needs to be ignored cuz it’s not dented , he is just trying to make you feel ridiculous baiting you

[burnt tree]

EUC >>>

[thorn sluice]

It so simple

[cedar zealot]

Wtf, imagine progging thaemine before me

I'm waiting on solo thaemine next year

[sand marsh]

NAE is the cool kids club Asuun. We have saturn

[mortal sluice]

even if, its not your responsibility to deal with it

[burnt tree]

We cleared g1, g2 will perish today frfr just final mech left

[thorn sluice]

You keep answering to this re-ard guy seriously

[mortal sluice]

let me have my fun lol

jesus

[burnt tree]

Snark is a lawyer now

[thorn sluice]

[sand marsh]

sometimes engaging with dented people is fun

[ancient tundra]

It s better to watch guides first on YouTube

[trail tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1010678869373763606/1245311592472645684/image.png?ex=66584a4c&is=6656f8cc&hm=03a9a6200e2ac9a94274058cf7fe70244df172b42d3b1abcce1c611e2a996695&

[thorn sluice]

[trail tendon]

couldve had this

[mortal sluice]

NAE is the cool kids club Asuun. We have "put in name of massive rmtler"

[ancient tundra]

So u get a feel for it

[trail tendon]

as sf wepaon skin

im in shambles

[mortal sluice]

[sand marsh]

but they are cracked

[gaunt apex]

sounds good, will do!

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/mental-health-terrific-elijah-depression-gif-12839229

[sand marsh]

i played with saturn a few times, man is on another level

[mortal sluice]

fair

[sand marsh]

or im just dogshit

prolly the later

[mortal sluice]

prolly a mix of both

no flame tho

[sand marsh]

[trail tendon]

[mortal sluice]

ngl all i wanna do is bus theamine hm 1-3 4c4

that shit is so fun

also 300k ez

[ancient tundra]

@burnt tree wish me luck bro fu xuan banner up soon

[sand marsh]

4c4 hard mode?

[burnt tree]

Atleast you get this

[mortal sluice]

yea

[ancient tundra]

[sand marsh]

or normal

[mortal sluice]

hm

[sand marsh]

what the.

[trail tendon]

yeah its not bad

[sand marsh]

you must be pulling insane numbers

holy

[mortal sluice]

everyone gotta do like 40m

on full afk run

[burnt tree]

But don't hurry to change your outfit, your current one is good

[thorn sluice]

Do YoU LiKe It?

[mortal sluice]

*at least 40m

[sand marsh]

all 4 buyers counter orbs in g2?

no countr jail?

[mortal sluice]

usually

[trail tendon]

wtf u know how i look

[mortal sluice]

yea

[burnt tree]

Yeah

[trail tendon]

oh wait

[mortal sluice]

g2 is the most annoying

[burnt tree]

Bruh im in ch1 voldis all day

[sand marsh]

hmm. that was one reason why ppl stopped bussing hard mode brel, people couldnt fuckin counter

[trail tendon]

i realised who u are now

[burnt tree]

Lmaoo

[ancient tundra]

Wait so buyers gotta stay alive for that long ?

[sand marsh]

no.

[mortal sluice]

long?

[sand marsh]

afk g1 and g3

[mortal sluice]

its the first mech

[sand marsh]

g2 just counter orb

then afk

[ancient tundra]

Then ded

[mortal sluice]

yea

[charred void]

sells bus with FULL AFK erhm, hey guys you have to play the counters in g2 else we cant progress uwu

[thorn sluice]

[sand marsh]

it's basically AFK... lol

[sour glen]

Dm me when g4 bus will be Less than 100k

[mortal sluice]

its known that you have to do it in hm

[mortal sluice]

for you never

back paddling lol

[sand marsh]

brel bus is afk, all u gotta do is kill a dam dog

and people fail to do that even

[trail tendon]

u can skip it in nm?

[sand marsh]

so im surprised people can counter orbs in g2

[mortal sluice]

yea

[burnt tree]

Would

[mortal sluice]

afaik you can ts

you hit 4 and then ts

[sand marsh]

ye TS + awakening/dr

[mortal sluice]

or something

yea

never done it myself

[trail tendon]

interesting

[thorn sluice]

If I get Brel bus ( which will never happen ) I will never kill dog

[wide ore]

bus The First when

[sand marsh]

it's pretty chill, but hard mode is probably much more fun

[charred void]

in the brel bus lobbies i went FULL AFK like they advertised(they didnt mention dogs) - i dont support false marketing

[sand marsh]

have u done g4 carries yet?

[trail tendon]

the first 6man bus prob possible by now

[thorn sluice]

Wtf I’m paying to get carried in a 1540 content and I also have to do a mech ?

No

The other guy will kill it

[mortal sluice]

i mean does it count if iam doing 42m and the rest does 20m

i havent done g4 busses

[thorn sluice]

[bitter lichen]

🧖‍♂️

[mortal sluice]

in a 4c4 it doesnt work

soemone has to kill 1 dog

but its also known

[thorn sluice]

I know , that’s not me

[mortal sluice]

that you have to

[sand marsh]

jesus 40mil. igniter sorc right?

[mortal sluice]

ye

wasnt even good pull tho

[thorn sluice]

[sand marsh]

highest parse i've seen is 32mil. 1640 sharpshooter

he is pretty good

[thorn sluice]

I have a log where an igniter sorc did 35m in sonavel as 1600

40 doesn’t look so high

[sand marsh]

that's a target dummy.. lol

[supple parrot]

guardian and raid is very diff

[sand marsh]

thaemine is not so much a target dummy, especially in 4-2

[burnt tree]

Compared Thaemine to Sonavel

Ok ok

[thorn sluice]

5m difference ?

[sand marsh]

man hops around so fuckin much

[torn ether]

35m as 1600 doesnt seems realistic tho

[mortal sluice]

i mean i can prolly pull 80-90m on a good veskal

lol

[thorn sluice]

Sounds low

[sand marsh]

nah its not low at all

[thorn sluice]

I can send you pic

[charred void]

sonavel gets +30% dmg after destruction

[thorn sluice]

[burnt tree]

Snark went from lawyer to hater

[sand marsh]

40 is pretty dam good, i've been in countless groups, never saw 40

[burnt tree]

[charred void]

and another 30% after "mechanic" in p2, i think

[thorn sluice]

[sand marsh]

only mid 30s

[mortal sluice]

@sand marsh send u the log

[torn ether]

i do 15m at trixion

[cedar zealot]

Probably a month after echidna

[torn ether]

am i doing sth wrong

[ancient tundra]

Snark dps checker

[torn ether]

i really dont think so but maybe

[thorn sluice]

Idk I don’t play sorc

[charred void]

you need 10 engravings and full 10s gems

[sand marsh]

i see it.

im surprised the SE isnt doing more

[torn ether]

makes sense

[mortal sluice]

he hasnt cleared

was his first clear

[sand marsh]

ahhh

[mortal sluice]

lmao

like i said

[charred void]

maybe 15 engravings to simulate good support

[mortal sluice]

full pug

with a bunch of collision ppl

[thorn sluice]

Check dm

[torn ether]

i did

and 42% crit too

hmm

[thorn sluice]

[sand marsh]

this reset is bi-weekly right

[true tartan]

[supple parrot]

here comes nova

[true tartan]

Hmm

You missed me

[supple parrot]

[true tartan]

Kae forced me to hone to do g4 with him

[charred void]

do you like it?

[true tartan]

Flow looks bad

[supple parrot]

why no invite me

racism

[prime wind]

arent u both asian

[supple parrot]

ya but im real chinese

they fake

[true tartan]

Kae said no traitors. China ran to murica

[prime wind]

chuan the real racist

[supple parrot]

usually fake ones are racist toward real chinese

[thorn sluice]

[supple parrot]

[charred void]

how can there be real chinese if all they do is fake

[supple parrot]

that racist

mods

ban that racist guy

[true tartan]

[prime wind]

thats true chuan is american now

[supple parrot]

do ur job nova

[prime wind]

he bleeds blue white and red

[swift tree]

Real question is if Han is the "fake chinese" ?

[stark thicket]

chinese fake everything part 21

dog disguised as panda at zoo

[charred void]

that was soo good

next they tape 10 dolphins together and call it a whale

[neon cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/chow-chow-dog-cafe-gif-15551187

[cedar zealot]

Hone your lopang?

[bitter lichen]

thats a god damn dog panda

[torn ether]

looks legit to me

[bitter lichen]

🧖‍♂️

[charred void]

no thats a Pandog

[true tartan]

Huh. Wdym

[sand marsh]

dam you got betrayed

betrayed on NAE and NAW

[cedar zealot]

I was under the assumption you already had a few 1630s

[thorn sluice]

I’m confused , are them dogs or pandas

[neon cedar]

100% certified zoo ready pandas

[bitter lichen]

neither cant u read

pandog

🧖‍♂️

[midnight marlin]

those are clearly cats?

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/amazon-server-gif-27101597

[charred void]

cant wait for that new warrior skin(top left)

[neon cedar]

It looks fun to wear for a week or 2. But not for new drip

[hallow granite]

its like every other mokoko skin, fun for a week then u feel like a bot

[charred void]

some people shouldn't be allowed to vote

like with that anime skins we now got

and ags doesnt even make like 5 concepts for the western exclusive(for 6months+) to vote for and just release some garbage nobody likes besides 0,1%

[hallow granite]

maybe some day we will have our own contest im sure west will bring out banger skins

[charred void]

yeah for sure

[bitter lichen]

[charred void]

in another game

[bitter lichen]

no way

[charred void]

looks like these won

[swift tree]

Rip Furry Skin

[bitter lichen]

bro

half of then are like

old skins istg

[neon cedar]

Tbf, they jsut asked us if we like Anime. Who knew theyd go with Sailor Moon of all things

[bitter lichen]

kda akali skin

[neon cedar]

Aint no way anyone meant Sailor Moon when they said yes

[bitter lichen]

lmao

i forgot sailor moon even existed

[swift tree]

https://i.imgur.com/ugOxxtQ.jpeg This got posted to Imgur today, was expecting KR one to win somehow.

[neon cedar]

Shit ended in 1997. I bet most people here were born after that

[zealous lintel]

most of the skins are dog poopo 😦

[bitter lichen]

[zealous lintel]

Like the slayer and MA male one. And thats basecally it

[bitter lichen]

skins look lazy imo

[swift tree]

All black n gold to match their weapon glows ./s

[zealous lintel]

GS again some kind of tech/military skin

same goes for gunner male

mage bland and stoic as always

[charred void]

pet is cool, i guess

[zealous lintel]

i do like the mount

the pet is whatever. dont see pets ingame

[hallow granite]

can u link the page @charred void

[keen copper]

gen chat weird rn

[charred void]

https://lostark.game.onstove.com/Promotion/Contest/240529

[hallow granite]

ty

[zealous lintel]

haha

[neon cedar]

I was invested when some random guy was trying to argue with Chris but now its getting extra

[sand marsh]

Uhh. Why the hell did I just come across a cluster of Level 90 mobs?

[zealous lintel]

hate that garbo MA female skin...

[sand marsh]

level 90

[midnight marlin]

elites

[sand marsh]

[midnight marlin]

youve never seen red aura?

[sand marsh]

No.

[midnight marlin]

there are sets of red aura enemies that dont scale with world level

some are 25 and stay 25

[sand marsh]

How does the game expect me to kill them?

[midnight marlin]

some are 120 and stay 120

[sand marsh]

it's level 90 lol

[midnight marlin]

they dont scale

so when you can start doing 120

[sand marsh]

any reward for killing them?

[cursive ruin]

lord i am arriving

[midnight marlin]

they are still 90

[burnt tree]

They also drop guaranteed 5* aura

Afaik

[midnight marlin]

5 star

[sand marsh]

5 star echo?

[midnight marlin]

echo

[burnt tree]

Yeahhh

[bitter lichen]

wtf

[sand marsh]

hmm.

doesn't seem worth it

[burnt tree]

It is

[sand marsh]

i'll try to kill

[burnt tree]

If you fight those who are alone

Groupped up ones are a pain

[midnight marlin]

some easy ones are nice

cause low level garunteed 5 star

7 day respawn though

[sand marsh]

bro....

wtf

crzy help me kill it

[gleaming pendant]

wtf eclipse can't kill lvl 90

what a noob

[sand marsh]

bro

its 40 LEVELS

ABOVE ME

[gleaming pendant]

and?

[sand marsh]

help me

[gleaming pendant]

diff region

[charred void]

skill issue?

[sand marsh]

Bro I'd have to dodge like every single attack

from 4 mobs

all at the same time

[charred void]

so you're saying the eclipse title is bought?

[sand marsh]

im saying you can suck on dn

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/i-would-if-i-could-bitch-pimp-exit-like-fuck-you-okay-just-to-be-clear-laughing-at-you-like-gif-11796257

[true tartan]

Don't spread false info

Ban ban ban

[fresh flint]

They said to do the solo ones

Why would you do all 4

[sand marsh]

nope it's impossible

cant kill it

they are grouped up

in pair of 4

[cedar zealot]

Solo elites are doable, don't bother with the ones that are grouped up

[charred void]

cant you pull 1 away

[fresh flint]

YOU DONT LISTEN DEDBOI

[charred void]

idk how game works

[cedar zealot]

An assumption is not info though

[gleaming pendant]

he has like 12 so far

[sand marsh]

someone join my lobby and help me wtf

[cedar zealot]

12x 1630?

[gleaming pendant]

yeah

[true tartan]

I can't ban mods. So kae is safe

[stark thicket]

im using yuanwa + calcharo and if i combo correctly i can get over 15k.. idek if thats good but feels nice

[cedar zealot]

Green name privilege smh

[charred void]

dedboi™ posted screen yesterday from someones sh with 7x 25 weapon

and there is always a bigger whale out there

[cedar zealot]

Yeah I saw

[gleaming pendant]

@supple parrot and nova don't play with you cause you american chinese now....

white washed....

[true tartan]

[cedar zealot]

[gleaming pendant]

you yellow outside but white inside now....