lost-ark-discussions

[sand marsh]

[nova garden]

It’s also about to be my onion level

[uneven mortar]

whos this

[nova garden]

The one on the left or right?

[midnight marlin]

is that it

[uneven mortar]

that guarantees 5*

[kindred ravine]

no

that's a skin

[uneven mortar]

the cat

[kindred ravine]

for the turtle

[uneven mortar]

[midnight marlin]

story, we dont know for sure yet

pog

[nova garden]

You got a shiny

[midnight marlin]

i got a shiny

[bitter lichen]

oh theyre actually different color

[gleaming pendant]

SHINY PIKACHU

[bitter lichen]

thought they were just had like white colour on it

[kindred ravine]

yeah they're made as skins for them now

[bitter lichen]

nice

[kindred ravine]

there's only like 6 phantoms in the game

turtle is the only one we find wildly

others are skins we buy with tokens/event stuff rn

[sand marsh]

nice more waveplates

[kindred ravine]

bro is only lv15 in the BP wtf

[keen copper]

[sand marsh]

im casual man

[gleaming pendant]

soon we can breed the echos

4IV crownless

[bitter lichen]

the joe rogan podcast

[gleaming pendant]

joe who?

joe biden

[bitter lichen]

joe biden

[quartz turret]

[kindred ravine]

why her thighs got a shine on them on the title screen 😩

[bitter lichen]

man those pants aint doin shit

[gleaming pendant]

you the fighter glaiver?

[quartz turret]

yes

[gleaming pendant]

goddamn

[modern grail]

41 in hm

[gleaming pendant]

in g2

[modern grail]

what the other dps doing

[gleaming pendant]

actually doomed

[kindred ravine]

[modern grail]

😭

roseys back becoming hunch after g3 i feel

[kindred ravine]

[midnight marlin]

rim lighting

[keen copper]

im only lvl 10 on the bp

[quartz turret]

lv5

[nova garden]

It’s so sad

The shirt flaps covering her shorts stay glued to her ass even when you’re jumping or something.

[sand marsh]

im getting mad man

[nova garden]

[supple parrot]

absolute monkeys greeding and dying at swords, then greed at 83 and dont counter jesus

[sand marsh]

gimme my god dam echo with crit rate

[nova garden]

You can’t see anything no matter how hard you try

[sand marsh]

everytime its crit rate its purple

not yellow

[keen copper]

wuwa server just as bad as the help chat here

[sand marsh]

i cant even join that server

madge

[midnight marlin]

shouldve seen hsr on launch

people didnt know how to walk through a door

wtf why is that reply

mb

[nova garden]

[gleaming pendant]

tell them to use the

non binary one

[gleaming pendant]

why?

[midnight marlin]

500k members

discord server limit

[gleaming pendant]

oh i am part of the 500k

LOL

it says 500,003

[midnight marlin]

3 bots

[keen copper]

ps4 is crazy

[gleaming pendant]

thinking it won't lag on ps4 too

[nova garden]

Yep, stays glued to her ass

[gleaming pendant]

actually delusional

[nova garden]

Can’t see

[gleaming pendant]

[swift tree]

[midnight marlin]

abotu as close as it can get

[swift tree]

PS4 turns into a jet engine trying to play KH3 on LOW Settings

[midnight marlin]

wait

there are files for this

[swift tree]

?

[midnight marlin]

um

im undressing

[swift tree]

You're replacing texture files with a blank image, aren't you?

[gleaming pendant]

HUH

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hello-cat-peek-cat-door-cat-peek-door-gif-17361470248875227911

[swift tree]

Is it against this discord's policy to ban people for breaking ToS in OTHER games?

[tulip charm]

you get banned if you don't play gacha in this discord

[swift tree]

Currently Playing F:NV

[vagrant cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-door-kitty-open-feline-gif-20348122

[supple parrot]

its against tos to play any game other than lost ark here

fucking weebs

[tulip charm]

[midnight marlin]

what the fuck is rover called in chinese

im doing so much work for so small payout

[worn current]

Should i buy the $5 deal on WuWa

[supple parrot]

whats rover

landrover?

[supple parrot]

we call this 自助火锅 in chinese

[midnight marlin]

fuck

[tulip charm]

does lin buy this for his dog?

[midnight marlin]

i found the model but i need chinese phone number

[azure valley]

i take care of my dog

[supple parrot]

i said its all you can eat hotpot

[tulip charm]

how are you awake

[azure valley]

[supple parrot]

exposed

im hungry, i want some tacos

[worn current]

You get $5 deal on WuWa where you get gacha currency everyday

[tulip charm]

that dog is way too cute though

[azure valley]

[supple parrot]

lin copy me cuz i had a french bulldog in china

[midnight marlin]

WHAT? HUH?

[azure valley]

chuan copy me cause chuan has no taste

[supple parrot]

literally had it years before u

[azure valley]

wdym i wanted one years before u got one

[supple parrot]

dogs are too much work

pet free life

[azure valley]

[tulip charm]

can't have a dog, i have a cat

[gleaming pendant]

where dog pics

[supple parrot]

u can have both

[rigid aurora]

dogs fucking suck ass

i hate dogs

i want a cat

[uncut dirge]

i loved my dog

[tulip charm]

too emotionally attached, heard too many stories, imagine if a dog pass away on me
i don't think i can take it

[supple parrot]

u put soy sauce on the cat and hot sauce on the dog

[rigid aurora]

im a cat person

[uncut dirge]

cats just hate you

[rigid aurora]

(ive never owned a cat)

okay but that means i dont have to constantly deal with their attention

low maintenance

[supple parrot]

my wife wants a pet, i'd be more open to a cat than a dog, less work

[tulip charm]

once upon a time i was thinking of getting a parrot

[supple parrot]

thats stupid

they are annoyin af

[tulip charm]

apparently they have long life, like 50>60years

[uncut dirge]

yeah but if you get a dog you can go meet cute girls while walking the dog

[azure valley]

thats cause you're a bozo

cats are the worst

[rigid aurora]

im not a bozo

[supple parrot]

dogs do be taste better than cat

[rigid aurora]

the cats i met are so cool and chill

[supple parrot]

[rigid aurora]

[azure valley]

see no taste chuan

[supple parrot]

i dont have the energy for a dog man

[uncut dirge]

yeah gotta walk the dog quite often

[supple parrot]

i was walkin dog all the time in china

takes too much time

[tulip charm]

use to know someone that have a husky, beatiful dog, but then they said it digs under your fence and stuff

[supple parrot]

husky is known to destroy everything

[tulip charm]

exteme amount of work needed, and they shed

[supple parrot]

cloth shoes

sofa

[azure valley]

wdym u can prob see in the other discord

[rigid aurora]

ez solution chuan

eat dog when theyre too much

[supple parrot]

how do u know

[uncut dirge]

when i was a kid we had a dog

she was a year older than me

[supple parrot]

[uncut dirge]

it was nice

i got along pretty well with her

apparently as a baby/toddler i'd literally sleep on top of her lmao

[turbid oriole]

[supple parrot]

[rigid aurora]

it's a suggestion

[supple parrot]

[worn current]

Getting fu xuan tomorrow

[supple parrot]

weebs

[vagrant cradle]

[wind dagger]

Coomers

[devout fractal]

Coomer weebs

[quartz turret]

last minute cut

[uncut dirge]

grats

[supple parrot]

undeserved

[quartz turret]

my breaker have both critical and mastser set

[tulip charm]

did u see my helm upgrade on main earlier today?

only took 2 month

[quartz turret]

[supple parrot]

thats a bis piece with 5 crit/5atk, i dont have a single char with that

zheng complainin about it takin 2 months to get

[tulip charm]

both gloves and helmet is 5class/2garbo like mana or something, finally fixed one, still have to fix glove

[vagrant cradle]

[swift tree]

Tried fixing gloves with event elixirs, didn't roll luminary (chaos) once

one of the more bs parts of elixirs

[sand marsh]

PLEASE CRIT RATE

[vagrant cradle]

i need to fix my gloves still

maybe in a few months

[tulip charm]

i didn't use any of my event legendary elixirs, i stashed it, i used some purple events and got 35 on my summ, gonna the legendary elixirs for when my summoner hits 1620 in 6months or something

[sand marsh]

I'm about2slur

wtf man

[quartz turret]

nah its fine

[swift tree]

I'm talking about my main.
Got 7/9/8/8/6

6 is gloves

[gleaming pendant]

time to seal the server

[supple parrot]

hey that says crit

congrats

[quartz turret]

seal dn

rip my raids

its wuwa time

[sand marsh]

fuk u

i need crit rate

[swift tree]

3/10

[quartz turret]

im just doing side quests so i can reach 21

[midnight marlin]

so uh... thats why

[quartz turret]

hopefully my artist can reach 1620 in two weeks

[sand marsh]

Why would anyone reset phase?

[supple parrot]

aboslute loser

did u try taking off ur wig and rubbin ur head for good luck

[sand marsh]

fuk u

[supple parrot]

givin u good advice

and ur being rude

now u gonna get bad karma

and never get crit

[sand marsh]

[copper halo]

You can set the world to a lower level to oneshot bosses for echo farm, but since you can only change every 12 hours that's a bit oof

[sand marsh]

Oh I see. Well I already kill bosses very quickly so no need

[midnight marlin]

more for casual players who dont have hands

[uneven mortar]

current world im killing the boss in like 20 seconds

i wonder how much harder lvl 90 boss will be

[copper halo]

like the reddit guy who said it takes 15 minutes to kill bosses sometimes if he doesn't hit the counters

[uneven mortar]

with maxed char?

[copper halo]

who knows, there's already so many things wrong with that it's hard to even think where to start

[uneven mortar]

if you take more than 3 mins

smth is wrong

lol

cuz thats the soft timer

[copper halo]

maybe he hasn't figured out ascending characters and is still lvl20 killing ul30 things who knows

and is only using the counter static dmg to kill things because attacks don't do shit

[uneven mortar]

im tryna get this fucking bell hp+

why cant boss just give 100% echo

[sand marsh]

on what character

[uneven mortar]

verina and baizhi

im making my second team

[sand marsh]

Hmm. Verina needs hp?

Pretty sure she needs attack

[uneven mortar]

i mean

hp recovery+

i dont have enough echo exp

holy moly man

this is like early days genshin

i play usper efficient too only + legend weps

[sand marsh]

ohhh

[midnight marlin]

healing bonus

[bitter lichen]

[uneven mortar]

ima do the tower 3 days before

[copper halo]

kinda want to build the hype havoc rover dual dreamless team just to give it a go

but there's no char xp anywhere

[sand marsh]

finally

not completely BiS but close enough

[copper halo]

why isn't it completelt bis?

[sand marsh]

Pretty sure you can roll crit rate + crit damage on 4-cost echoes

though I am not entirely sure

bro im down bad

[copper halo]

no, second stat is always the same

[sand marsh]

Ah I see. Then maybe it is BiS

ATK % might be better than ATK

[copper halo]

4 cost is always flat atk, 3/1 always flat hp

[quartz turret]

lv19

[sand marsh]

Oh it is?

Interesting

[wind dagger]

[sand marsh]

Nice. More crit rate

Though I am not a fan of the DEF affix, it's w/e

[gleaming pendant]

def

[sand marsh]

Almost 50%

[copper halo]

cannot get a goddamn 3cost energy regen to drop

[wind dagger]

I can't enjoy this game fully

[sand marsh]

Hm. I can't seem to get an answer on this

[copper halo]

farmed like a gazillion wolves yesterday and not a single havoc dmg roll

[sand marsh]

For the best Jiyan build should I run only 1 4 cost echo?

[copper halo]

today we go again I guess

is any build better with two 4s

seems sus

[sand marsh]

Well 4 can give you more crit rate/crit dmg

[copper halo]

43311 gives so much more dmg stats thatn 44111

[sand marsh]

Oh I see.

So all characters run 43311?

[cedar zealot]

prob but 3 cost echoes are a PITA to farm

[copper halo]

you can get 22% crit from another 4cost when you can get +60% element dmg from two 3s

[sand marsh]

I guess I can also get more crit rate when I tune some 3 cost or lower echos

I think Jiyan should be 50% crit rate

[copper halo]

What I don't know is how much worse atk% is compared to element dmg%

isn't everything scaled by attack anyway

[midnight marlin]

depends on damage formula

[sand marsh]

According to what I am seeing, for Jiyan you want 3 cost to be Aero DMG

[copper halo]

so other than for other +atk% scalars what is the difference

people are saying you want like 50% energy regen for jiyan

[midnight marlin]

jiyan no ult is smoge

[copper halo]

so unless you go ultralucky on substats you kinda need a 3cost energy regen echo

[cedar zealot]

trying to get a ER roll on every piece is nice since most of his dmg comes from his ult form

[mortal sluice]

https://wutheringwaves.gg/jiyan-build-guide/

p much

[copper halo]

probably just going ER/aero dmg on 3c until I'm absolutely done with everything else and can farm echos

[mortal sluice]

cd%/cr% and then aero dmg

and er

[copper halo]

but at that point there's probably a better dps out there anyway

[mortal sluice]

eh Jiyan is pretty broken when it comes to Single target dps

[cedar zealot]

i like how his ult is just free counters

[copper halo]

also jianxin chi channel good old boomer button can just hold it down and counter everything

[mortal sluice]

pair him with Verina and Mortefi

and you are doing stupid dmg

[copper halo]

yea that's my main team right now

[cedar zealot]

thats what im running atm yeah till next update

then ima start building electro team

[copper halo]

trying to decide if I want to build my calcharo team or the havoc rover thing as my 2nd strongest team

[cedar zealot]

havoc/danjin is less resources to build? since they are both the same element can work on both their echo set at the same time

[copper halo]

both use the same echos so can't share, don't think there's a big difference to farming two of the same set compared to two different sets

[cedar zealot]

farming echoes arent stamina gated anyway so yeah

[copper halo]

kinda love how chill echo farming is, just pick a target and go wild until they're extinct and then see what dropped

collecting cubes and boxes while doing it

[midnight marlin]

shouldnt it be prio stam use on mats first

cause theres a limit

[cedar zealot]

some mobile gamers dont like it, they say its too time consuming

[midnight marlin]

and you will spend infinite time on echos

[cedar zealot]

at least it gives u incentive to go around the map and hunt down mobs (more gameplay)

[copper halo]

5000+ hours in lost ark I'm kinda past the "too time consuming" part

at some point the boxes and cubes will be gone and it's just an infinite echo grind, probably not going to be as fun at that point

but not that long till ul40 and 80% gold echo drop rate so it'll also be a lot faster

[quartz turret]

wtf im getting audio glitch in tower

[copper halo]

turn off audio for a better experience rn

[stark thicket]

look at how pooly made my chart is

[midnight marlin]

howd you even collect

honeypot?

[swift tree]

Better than most MSM pie charts

This isn't a photoshop btw, this was an actual pie chart printed to news

[copper halo]

Anyone know why the guides are building support jianxin for energy regen when the ult does nothing? Isn't energy regen only for the ultimate?

Or does it affect like the whole intro/outro energy gain as well?

[swift tree]

data security homework?

[quartz turret]

[rigid aurora]

i was like whats wront with this then i saw the numbers

[swift tree]

Yeah.

[sullen plaza]

guys is euc up

[stark thicket]

Data mining project, i created pie chart and table, group members doing the other stuff

[swift tree]

MBIC the maintenance JUST started

[stark thicket]

rosey a rper

[quartz turret]

[midnight marlin]

?
"Increases the amount of Resonance Energy gained with using ... Resonance Energy"

you get energy for using energy?

[supple parrot]

disgusting weeb

[stark thicket]

[quartz turret]

stfu no ones asking u

[stark thicket]

come wuwa chuan

you know u wanna

[supple parrot]

[cedar zealot]

[supple parrot]

how bout no

[rigid aurora]

oh wait its maint day

have fun crazy

[worn current]

What are waveplates? Is that the equivalent to like trailblaze power?

[cedar zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/vergilsmile-vergil-vergil-dmc-vergil-devil-may-cry-vergil-dmc5-gif-24388059

[midnight marlin]

stamina

yeah

[midnight marlin]

for why

[stark thicket]

Uncle Rural on youtube makes me so hungry

[cedar zealot]

supposed to be resonance liberation*

but we dont hire enough people to work on localisation here

(AGS and kuro)

[rigid aurora]

ur in charge of the dent users that cry about servers

cuz im goin slee0

[midnight marlin]

aw

can i join

[burnt tree]

Im a FemFighter main now

[stark thicket]

when server up

[swift tree]

330MB download

[worn current]

What is the quickest way to get your union level up?

[quartz turret]

spend stamina

[worn current]

Oh

[midnight marlin]

stamina, questing, dailies

[keen copper]

dailies are pretty broken early on so much xp

[quartz turret]

just refresh 6x ez

[midnight marlin]

is 6 the max

6 is the max

day are they arguing if you should save waveplates until higher world level

in official

[stark thicket]

i spent mine fck it

[burnt tree]

[stark thicket]

hand leak

[copper halo]

you'll get more value from the cubes and astrids in higher world tiers bu you still have to get there somehow so maybe if you want to wait a few weeks

[keen copper]

nah

just a bunch of random shit

[burnt tree]

Genshin is mid cause hoyos employees were waiting to play WuWa

[copper halo]

there's not much to rush for right now besides finishing the tower before reset

[cedar zealot]

Quests & exploration

[teal thistle]

WuWa menus are GROSS af wtf TuT

[copper halo]

I wish the quests weren't such an awful slog

still have like 3 exploration quests left

[stark thicket]

the chests and tidal loot thingies start to add up 2

[teal thistle]

The whole UI needs a rework

[cedar zealot]

Ui feels intuitive, the font doesn't help either

[teal thistle]

the whole UI needs a change

It looks super bad

EVERYTHING

[stark thicket]

[supple parrot]

is wuwa a mobile gacha?

[cedar zealot]

It's a mobile game, it won't get much better

[stark thicket]

okay genshin player

[teal thistle]

Character graphics are okay tho

[teal thistle]

Bruh i hate genshin lmao

[stark thicket]

[cedar zealot]

Wrekk and Rosey are playing it, you already know what type of game it is

[burnt tree]

PC/Mobile/PS5 soon

[supple parrot]

[cedar zealot]

But to answer your question, yes

[stark thicket]

everybody gonna hate my bad take, but guess what, i still think tof was fun

[teal thistle]

genshin UI is better and it's a mobile game too

[burnt tree]

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-kiwis-gif-26168357

[burnt tree]

Yeah but Genshin sucks

[uneven mortar]

its whatever

[teal thistle]

True

Genshin does suck

[stark thicket]

dn

[burnt tree]

I'll take the sacrifice of worse UI for better gameplay

[teal thistle]

That doesn't change the fact that the UI is way better

[cedar zealot]

Premium gacha vs copy of the premium budget version gacha

[copper halo]

I just wish there was a faster way to see what echo you dropped, otherwise I don't have a lot of complaints over the menus anymore

[teal thistle]

I mean i get that genshin have more money but come on bro this UI is awful TuT

[midnight marlin]

[stark thicket]

Yeah, when you talk about that, it does need a overhaul... i would like to look at specific echoes im farming, idek if there is a way but i could see it

[copper halo]

the whole echo handling is just awful, otherwise it's pretty ok

[uneven mortar]

i keep forgetting to do the fucking daily chaos

[keen copper]

[uneven mortar]

oldge people

[midnight marlin]

wym look, see what you want to target or what youve collected

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-rave-dance-gif-15389662957248741331

[midnight marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/mapache-pedro-gif-7206648027763736533

[burnt tree]

[quartz turret]

lv20

[copper halo]

even what you've collected is like barely functional, you can go to backpack and sort by new but there's very few meaningful ways to interact with that, and the merging menu is just wild how terrible it is

[wind dagger]

[burnt tree]

Mihoyo playing WuWa

They gotta see what to copy from this one

[stark thicket]

adriel

any good pulls?

[wind dagger]

I saw that Reddit post

[burnt tree]

[wind dagger]

Not pulling right now

[quartz turret]

running on wall

[copper halo]

I just wish the energy cap was higher than just 24 hours

[stark thicket]

call me crazy id rather have no energy cap but get less resources

let me farm

but then i might get burned out

[teal thistle]

yes

[copper halo]

there's always runescape if you love infinite farms

[teal thistle]

idk how people play games with those graphics tbh

[midnight marlin]

diablo

poe

[copper halo]

raid: shadow legends basically let you farm dungeons infinitely so to get things you had to play all day

[burnt tree]

And the parkour from ledges at buildings

[copper halo]

that kinda sucks tbh

[burnt tree]

Instead of getting stuck you do cool moves

[supple parrot]

diablo and poe had decent graphics when they were released

[teal thistle]

Thats cool yeh

But gets old pretty fast

[midnight marlin]

i still get stuck

[stark thicket]

poe look like potato when it was in beta change my mind

[copper halo]

also getting stuck on some small ledge just before getting to the top and the only way out is hitting x and dropping back to the beginning 😠

poe still looks like a potato though

[supple parrot]

it was alright for that time

[teal thistle]

Im rerolling on wuwa

Someone kill me

Already pls

[sand marsh]

uhh what do i do

[fresh flint]

Then dont reroll

Tf

[sand marsh]

i think i killed em all

[teal thistle]

I can't bro

I reroll ALWAYS

on every single gacha

TuT

Its an addiction

[fresh flint]

Then suffer

[sand marsh]

rerolling is so dedge

[teal thistle]

It actually is

[sand marsh]

just get x5 5 stars like i did

while playing the game

[burnt tree]

Nah looks cool

[midnight marlin]

you have massive skill issue if you need to reroll in gacha

[stark thicket]

[sand marsh]

@midnight marlin help

what i do

[burnt tree]

Imagine getting two selectors but u still reroll

[teal thistle]

I have wallet issues yeah

[burnt tree]

Weird behaviour

Seek help

[fresh flint]

Show bobs

[teal thistle]

that just mean you can get 4x+ 5* if reroll

[sand marsh]

yea we got two selectors wtf

[burnt tree]

Seek Extra help

[sand marsh]

doing data bank and union level all over again

farming echoes

[teal thistle]

Im a LA player bro what else do you expect?

[sand marsh]

u crazy as hell man

[midnight marlin]

wait for daily reset

[sand marsh]

thats the only way?

[burnt tree]

So am i but ig im the rare normal kind

[fresh flint]

Normal xd

[teal thistle]

There is no such a thing as rare normal

:v

[sand marsh]

yes there is

im normal

[burnt tree]

Im doing Thaemine without elixirs so maybe im not

[teal thistle]

U are not

:V

[fresh flint]

No you aren’t

[sand marsh]

wdym im not

stfu chris

[stark thicket]

Really gotta wait for daily ?

[sand marsh]

no one asked u

[burnt tree]

I don't meet the standards the public requires of me

A bug in the system

[turbid oriole]

[midnight marlin]

for mob respawn yeah

[fresh flint]

Idgaf bald bitch you AINT NORMAL OKAY SEEK HELP

[sand marsh]

can i join ur lobby

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[midnight marlin]

oh

[sand marsh]

im not bald. fuk u, i bet u stink

[burnt tree]

You know what's not normal? Me being in bed at 11;34 am

But so comfy

[fresh flint]

No YOU stink we established this already. Go WASH YOUR ASS

[sand marsh]

i do wash my ass

[gleaming pendant]

wait for them to respawn

[teal thistle]

Show i just keep this and move on? used the selector to get the green healer girl

[fresh flint]

NO YPU DONT

[sand marsh]

Can I join someones lobby

[gleaming pendant]

that idk

you can try

[sand marsh]

Yes.

[gleaming pendant]

the respawn doesn't take long anyway

[sand marsh]

Someone said daily reset

hmmmge

[midnight marlin]

why am i in yours

[wind dagger]

[sand marsh]

idk i didnt invite u

[fresh flint]

Show bobs

[bitter lichen]

haters hate that i rerolled

[sand marsh]

let me try joining yours

[midnight marlin]

i wish i had them

[sand marsh]

oh

invite me

so i can test

[midnight marlin]

im dumb

hold on

[wind dagger]

I think leveling up chars to level 50, and then leveling up all their skills to level 4 including the skill DMG increase on top (middle icon) is great to park

[wind dagger]

[fresh flint]

Show bobs

[bitter lichen]

🧖‍♂️

[wind dagger]

That's what I'm doing with 4 of my chats

[fresh flint]

Show bobs

[wind dagger]

That's the plan...

[sand marsh]

I think it worked

[bitter lichen]

🧖‍♂️

[midnight marlin]

close your coop world @sand marsh

[fresh flint]

Show bobs

[bitter lichen]

joe biden comming out the shower

🧖‍♂️

[sand marsh]

ok

[midnight marlin]

what happens if you press invite on me

[fresh flint]

You get invited

[supple parrot]

just a normal weeb

[sand marsh]

I left the co-op now there's no more to be found

let me try to invite

[copper halo]

2nd tower already has lvl70 mobs and for most chars only a few skills do anything so it's kind of a waste to put resources in all of them

[sand marsh]

Oh. it teleported me

[midnight marlin]

ok

its backwards

[sand marsh]

wtf

thats weird

[midnight marlin]

its not invite to co op

its join world

[sand marsh]

yep it works

u can world hop if no spawns up

[midnight marlin]

oh

erm

[gleaming pendant]

????????????????????????????????

[sand marsh]

uhh what

[gleaming pendant]

hes using you for selfisn gain @carmine umbra

kick him out

[sand marsh]

no stop

i need

pls

dont kick me

[gleaming pendant]

fucking selfish

now crzyp can't progress

can't do quest

https://tenor.com/ewaItlNjMHG.gif

[midnight marlin]

guess ill run around chesting

[wind dagger]

good thing it was a plan. Rover is almost done, will focus Jianxin next then Calcharo. Dunno tbh. I'm in a state of wanting to play a certain character without the certainty of obtaining her

[sand marsh]

srry it wont take long

[bitter lichen]

[midnight marlin]

all g

[supple parrot]

whats baldboi tryin to do

[midnight marlin]

hes killing my monkeys

[supple parrot]

and ur just gonna let him?

go kill him

defend ur monkeys

[wind dagger]

Chuan go help them

[midnight marlin]

if my monkeys cant defend themselves they dont deserve to live

[supple parrot]

i aint playin that weeb shit

[wind dagger]

Y'all always talking about monkeys in lost ark

[bitter lichen]

dont let someone bald take advantage of you

[gleaming pendant]

and now when you need monkey, you need to wait till it respawn

[wind dagger]

how can someone whale for waveplats

[copper halo]

better find out the chars you want to play now when it's only a day or two to level them up, not gonna happen later.. kinda like lost ark in that sense, spreading your resources does not end up well for you so forget about having fun

[wind dagger]

[midnight marlin]

i dont

[wind dagger]

Huh

60 astrite is 60 waveplates?

Wtf

[copper halo]

yes

[midnight marlin]

wait hes dying

[sand marsh]

bro

your lobby rng is so bad

[midnight marlin]

HUH

[copper halo]

60 astrite is 1/3 of a pull so not that much 🤷‍♂️

[wind dagger]

Anyways, I'm not planning on spending too many resources in my characters right now, but man, idk, this game is like keep playing, build up resources until you pull the character you want

[bitter lichen]

[midnight marlin]

im pretty sure price of refresh goes up the more you do it per day

[copper halo]

that's exactly what this game is, and it's going to be even more like that in the future when you're waiting for a month or two for a banner you want and you've been saving for it for months

[keen copper]

welcome to a gacha ?

[copper halo]

first refresh does not increase the price of the second one at least, didn't try more than that

[keen copper]

[bitter lichen]

adriel

[wind dagger]

Si señor

[gleaming pendant]

that's literally

gacha

games in a nutshell

[teal thistle]

Wait, we got 2 selectors?

[midnight marlin]

1 selector, 1 targetted banner

[teal thistle]

Oh, lame :v

[sand marsh]

what is ur data bank level..

[midnight marlin]

not high

[sand marsh]

what lvl is it

15?

[midnight marlin]

11

[sand marsh]

I haven't gotten a single 5 star. I think it is because your data bank level is lower than mine is

I'm about2slur

[midnight marlin]

im 5 off of 12

[sand marsh]

im getting blues and epics

[midnight marlin]

yeah 15 require for 5 star

[sand marsh]

yee

all g

[copper halo]

you stop getting blues at db15 so it's definitely not using your db level then

[sand marsh]

at least we know the spawns aren't like universal

whos lobby can i join that has data bank level 15+

i need dem dam monkeys

[copper halo]

aren't there other echos for the same set that's basically the same

[sand marsh]

I need 3 star

and it has to be aero

[wind dagger]

feels great when you're db is 18, but can be 20 easily when unlocking UL 40

[midnight marlin]

3 cost

[sand marsh]

there's only 2 3 cost

yea cost sorry

for aero that is

[copper halo]

chaserazors and cyan herons are also 3cost aero

[gleaming pendant]

After some testing me and my friend discovered this is roughly the distance you have to be within to receive drops from each other. The center represents a player.

Things that aren't shared are harvestables like flowers on the ground. It's possible to steal it from someone's world.

Echoes are client side. Each player has their own drops when it comes to that so don't worry about stealing. The rarity of the Echoes during co-op is between both of your Data Banks. The lowest level is the minimum rarity you can get whilst the highest is the maximum.

NOTE: Since people keep asking, YES. Someone could kill a monster miles away from you and it can spawn an Echo for you. However since ONLY YOU can see your echo spawns, it's not ideal.

Red Elite Enemies with a red mist always drop a 4star echo (5star Echo if they are level 60+) Once you kill them, they are gone, but if you join up with a friend who still has theirs, you can obtain the echo from them as well. Ideally have a group of 3 people to take them on and then everyone can get 3 echoes each elite. (NOTE: After defeating the enemies they will respawn after 7 days of beating them. They do NOT reset at the usual weekly reset.)

If you wanna be efficient and min max with your friends, you can all join a co-op, split up, and harvest all the ore you can. If you wanna do an Echo farm run, best to stick together so nobody misses anything. If you don't mind losing chances at Echoes you could also just leave your co-op open to anyone and afk so you can just get drops from randoms.

Story progression halts when in co-op. Also the only one who can interact with puzzle objects is the host.

If you have info that conflicts with what I stated let me know and I'll correct it.

[sand marsh]

The razors aren't specifically aero.

Sometimes it is something else

[midnight marlin]

i aint reading allat

[sand marsh]

i forgot the name

[copper halo]

neither is the ape

[keen copper]

[gleaming pendant]

basically deathboi is rng gatekept

he can get gold echos

[sand marsh]

This ape is

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/edna-mode-incredibles-gobble-blabber-gif-13421610

[gleaming pendant]

but hes not lucking it

[copper halo]

pretty much everything has two or three sets they can belong to

even the apes can be either aero or heal set

[sand marsh]

He is aero only from my understanding

he isnt showingunder healing

it's aero only for that one

ur talking about the other ape

[supple parrot]

ya dont argue with baldboi about weeb shit

[copper halo]

the small ape can be red

[supple parrot]

he knows wut he is talkin about

[copper halo]

the big ape can be heal

[wind dagger]

Just keep farming

Until you get everything gold

[sand marsh]

Pretty sure Elite Class = 3 cost

That's what it seems like

[swift tree]

https://www.inven.co.kr/board/webzine/4811/9133132
The Global Players have breached containment

[copper halo]

the 4cost ape is just aero but bosses are invfinite

[sand marsh]

Elite class is 3 cost right?

[stark thicket]

[midnight marlin]

is this the inven post about the state of the game in global

[swift tree]

Yes

[torn ether]

sg will care about that post

[cedar zealot]

What does it say

[torn ether]

[midnight marlin]

i aint reading allat

[torn ether]

basically gate keeping and rng is burning people out

[midnight marlin]

i find reddit post that did quick tldr

[ebon snow]

just play with your friends

[teal thistle]

Why they didn't add Shift+G to WUWA?

:v

[ebon snow]

This

[teal thistle]

This is sooo annoying

[teal thistle]

I want to skip everything

[sand marsh]

[midnight marlin]

The Post is extremely long, but somewhat TLDR; is talking about all our current Issues in Global(NA/EU). (Bots, RNG Systems, Community, Learning Parties/New Players, Game Difficulty, Statistics, Publisher, Inflation, Communication/Forum, Golden Period of KR, Fatigue, Raid Culture, Direction, Dev Passion etc.. Issues + Future of the Game.), and flawed design of the game in our version. (OP also ended up making an edit responding to some comments.)

[sand marsh]

'one truck pr day'

icant

[midnight marlin]

do you know abotu the trucks

[swift tree]

It also includes that engaging with AGS is like apporaching a brick wall, that Global gets a different level of communication and treatment from Amazon. That many on Global version make use of information from Inven/Onstove because there's more advanced notice than simply a release note drop 24 hours before maintenance.

[teal thistle]

AGS is just lazy as heck

They don't want to do their job

:v

[stark thicket]

wuwa devs are quiet... where is our gifts

[swift tree]

How they closed down communication avenues, i.e. the forums and the discord is bloated and Zzz

[teal thistle]

A selector pls

[torn ether]

its not about ags at this point

[teal thistle]

Bro those places were toxic as heck

Thnk god they closed the

them

[teal thistle]

Is it about me? be honest

[burnt tree]

That's not the issue. Smilegate doesn't care simply as that

[swift tree]

It's a both

[torn ether]

yes... i didnt want it to be t his way

but it is what it is

[teal thistle]

Id say its a mix of both

[burnt tree]

I mean sure

But

[swift tree]

Smilegate are happy to remain in a bubble.
Amazon is happy to take money and do nothing to address the "bubble"

[stark thicket]

they will milk with skins and other bs and sellable packs before they think about making any change to game

[teal thistle]

[burnt tree]

Well they can deliver your feedback, wether SG cares doesn't matter

They technically did their job

Any transcendence or elixir change announced in LOA ON will be purely for Chinas sake anyway

[teal thistle]

Thats not enough tho :v

[burnt tree]

Since they definitely get elixirs this year atleast

[stark thicket]

im going to make a game but have the start menu grayed out, and sell the start menu

[burnt tree]

Tell Zoomin Park about it

[teal thistle]

We need AGS to buy all the rights

:v

[sand marsh]

[swift tree]

They're not wrong tho.

[stark thicket]

[sand marsh]

You shouldn't need SSN-verification to stop bots lol.

I think this take is a bit weird.

[supple parrot]

a kingdom ruled with fear

[burnt tree]

I don't mind an SSN verification tbh

[swift tree]

They could just make Steam 2FA mandatory

[burnt tree]

But too many complicated stuff for it to work

[teal thistle]

what?

[ebon snow]

What is he trying to say

[teal thistle]

All they have to do is perma ban RMTers :v

[sand marsh]

It's a matter of principle. It's laziness.

Steam 2fa mandatory doesn't really solve much. Easy bypass on that

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/xerxes-stare-couple-kingdom-gif-12556575

[teal thistle]

90% of the player base will die

But im willing to play alone

TuT

[swift tree]

btw "Truck/Drivers" in this is referring to buss/bussers

[sand marsh]

You can stop bots by.. hiring people to stop bots. Instead of having 5 people at a company manage the entire game.

[burnt tree]

They just need to ban a substantial amount as a warning

[teal thistle]

Thats not true

Wth

[sand marsh]

How is that not true?

[teal thistle]

You can't stop bots

[sand marsh]

You know where the bots are

[burnt tree]

Also banning bots manually is a waste of time and resources

[sand marsh]

This isn't rocket science.

[teal thistle]

If you really think a guy manually doing it will stop it

[burnt tree]

By the time you ban 5. 10 will spawn

[teal thistle]

You crazy my boi

[burnt tree]

If not 100

[teal thistle]

Exactly lol

[midnight marlin]

i thought it was referring to the trucks people would send out as a protest to a company

[stark thicket]

You know, if they released the game at 10,20 or 30 dollars, i bet bot problem would be as big of an issue

[teal thistle]

They don't even make those bot accounts manually

[burnt tree]

This idea of manually banning bots is so stupid

[stark thicket]

change my mind

[supple parrot]

scalp if you can stop bots, go work at any of these companies and they'll pay u 500k+ an year

[teal thistle]

indeed

[faint grove]

nowhere near as big but still an issue

[ebon snow]

I agree: hire GMs to manually ban the bots
But who says you can't use a tool to show players in a channel/area and make it faster

[sand marsh]

It depends on what you refer to by manually. With the technology we have, there should be a way to identify a cluster of bots sitting in vern and nuke them all at once.

[swift tree]

Don't even think it's manual. It's some shitty "self-learning" checker that flags them but doesn't ban the accounts

[teal thistle]

There is no such a thing atm

[burnt tree]

Yeah probably

[swift tree]

AGS doesn't have GMs at all

[supple parrot]

ok so next iteration of bots will just go to sh instead, wut u gonna do now

[burnt tree]

Just got some Community Managers to get the blame for mismanagement

[swift tree]

Then promote them to another game

[faint grove]

a common strat is to wait a while and do banwaves so botmakers don't know exactly how they're being found

[burnt tree]

Lmao

[teal thistle]

Yep

[ebon snow]

We don't even know if they are profiting from bots, maybe they don't wanna ban them

[stark thicket]

population is already sinking, just change the price of game from free to 30$, people who have game dont need 2 pay. ban all bots and ban big spending rmters

[swift tree]

If I had a nickel for every time it's happened, I'd have 2 nickels

[stark thicket]

my solution will work somewhat

[sand marsh]

You can't get stronghold access unless you do the quest in Lutterra. Also, bots usually have bot-like stronghold names.

[teal thistle]

Bro remove your tin foil hat please, AGS is the only one who is suffering cuz of the bots lmao

Bots are taking away from AGS

Millions

[burnt tree]

Which isn't a lot buuut

[teal thistle]

[ebon snow]

Are you sure about that

[teal thistle]

10000000% sure

Im jeff son

[sand marsh]

That seems like a really bad strat. They go unchecked for a while and destroy the economy.

[teal thistle]

Yam Bezos

[ebon snow]

XD

[supple parrot]

so u think its hard to have a bot do one simple quest in luterra? and u think its hard to generate non bot like names?

[burnt tree]

Yam Jorgensen

[swift tree]

AGS doesn't want to make the game less grind-involved so people swipe.
RMT means they aren't swiping to AGS.
They lose out with the bots being this bad.
It's driving people away from the game AND the pay store.

[supple parrot]

these kind of arm chair developer solutions just makes me question if anyone here has iq above room temp

[stark thicket]

I totally agree @stark thicket , all these people are arguing when the real fix is easy

[ancient tundra]

@burnt tree I got a2 seo

[burnt tree]

Yoo gratz

[faint grove]

and if you immediately ban them the botmakers instantly find out how they're being tracked and fixes it immediately

[ancient tundra]

Bro they added bonds thing gives shit ton of pulls

[teal thistle]

No but fr, think about it, don't be stoopid brother!
If they wanted to sell gold on weird sites they could just spawn the gold without having to have all those bots running around

[ancient tundra]

Like holy

[burnt tree]

Yep

Nice mats too

[faint grove]

bots are a bit more complex these days with ai and shit

they play like humans

[sand marsh]

We had over 1mil players at launch. Lots of names are taken. In addition, if they go to lutterra that's where you can ban them.

[teal thistle]

Yeh but we can't skip cutscenes so we gotta complain

[ancient tundra]

Loadings are bit better

[burnt tree]

The solution is simple: End of Service

[ancient tundra]

U felt it too ?

[burnt tree]

Barely tbh

[teal thistle]

With ChatGPT4 bots are humans now

[supple parrot]

bruh this is so dumb, im not even gonna bother explain to u why this wont work.

[teal thistle]

Imagine Chatgpt8

Bots will be gods

[faint grove]

only solution is to come down hard on rmters, thats it

[ebon snow]

I think there's still a chance

[swift tree]

This is some "Gen 3" Fallout 4 kinda shit

[sand marsh]

There's only X amount of ways to 'hide' yourself. Don't see how they would fix anything lol. When you use a powerpass you don't go to your SH immediately, you are in the open world.

[teal thistle]

0 chance bro, stop that you looking dummy

[ebon snow]

And if it was THAT bad you could do something, anything

[burnt tree]

But that one mil was NEVER going to stick around. People were just checking it out

[gleaming pendant]

YOOO GUNZ VS DANIEL TMR

[teal thistle]

Thats not how it works

[burnt tree]

Yoooo fr

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/brRA7.gif

[stark thicket]

change price of game to 5$

[faint grove]

not worth

hits playerbase too hard

[burnt tree]

Also i hope they don't kill off Mommy

[stark thicket]

well it doesnt have to be retroactive

[supple parrot]

the only way to stop bots is to ban ppl so hard that ppl are scared to buy bot gold, making bot not profitable

[teal thistle]

Don't charge to the people with old accounts, ez

[sand marsh]

This doesn't work. WoW has a bot problem and it's 15 a month.

[supple parrot]

any other way u say does not work

[ebon snow]

Aren't some botters paying something to get trusted and sell the stuff?

[swift tree]

No, they're stealing accounts for that

[stark thicket]

yeah but it wouldnt be big of an issue as it is now

[sand marsh]

If you ban people that buy gold, there's no players left. Too far gone for that to occur.

[sand marsh]

Not really. You can spend 5 dollars and make it back instantly.

[faint grove]

yup thats it, but they don't want to target the rmters because they "protect" themself by buying real gold as well as rmt gold

[supple parrot]

yep so there is no solution now

all ur arm chair devloper tactic does not work

[stark thicket]

[gleaming pendant]

daniel

[teal thistle]

Doesn't matter, when the game gets better, 0 bots and 0 RMTERS new players will come, good players not old RMT veterans that are always angry

Its a win win

[burnt tree]

UI vs UI boutta go hard

[faint grove]

rmt andies are too addicted to this trash game anyways, they'd buy another acc

[swift tree]

There is a solution... but you're going to hate it.
Other games kinda do it.

[teal thistle]

Totally lmao

[swift tree]

You detach gold from progression.

[sand marsh]

Everyone knows where the bots are. Amazon simply doesn't want to allocate resources to cleaning them up daily.

[tulip charm]

Why are people taking about lost ark instead of gacha here, what is going on…

[burnt tree]

Give gold less value frfr

[gleaming pendant]

where is his other body tho?

[teal thistle]

Yeh, do it like Blueprotocol and become a DoA game :v

[burnt tree]

No clue

BUT

[faint grove]

i do like that bots lower price of fusion mats at least

[burnt tree]

I like how Daniel reacted

[supple parrot]

u realize it is absolute trivial to not have bots move that way in open cities right... so ur gonna hire 200 ppl, and they spend 1 day to change script and now u fire 200 ppl? how dumb are u

[teal thistle]

But they increase th eprice on everything else bro wth

[sand marsh]

There's a reason why the bots can't just stay in the stronghold. They do life skilling.

[burnt tree]

When he realised his uncle was experimenting on him xd

[gleaming pendant]

WHAT YOU MEAN HES MY UNCLE?

[sand marsh]

You can't fish in your stronghold.

[gleaming pendant]

?????????????

NO SHOT

[teal thistle]

Bruh stop

[faint grove]

they lower the price of leaps and other honing mats too

[burnt tree]

Rofl

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/s1N6.gif

[supple parrot]

yes bots can only fish

ur right

[tulip charm]

What happened to bruh? Haven’t seen him here in awhile

[stark thicket]

r6 baizhi and r4 danjin 0 taoqi

[teal thistle]

He start playing my little pony extreme H +18 version

We lost him

[faint grove]

you think botties only fish? lol

[supple parrot]

and fishin bot is prob the best bot

[sand marsh]

There's una tokens as well

[supple parrot]

for the game

[sand marsh]

But again, requires you to be in the open world.

[ebon snow]

I don't believe anyone here has a good idea about what bots actually do

[faint grove]

bet theres bots that do raids

[swift tree]

He started playing FFXIV again

[ebon snow]

We are just guessing

[teal thistle]

Bro stop the cap, bots inscrease the price of EVERYHING but fish, thats a hard fact

[supple parrot]

no it doesnt, u can just do chaos dungeons and cubes

[sand marsh]

People bus bots. I don't know of bots that do the actual raid themselves.

[sand marsh]

Bots can't even get past level 2 of cube

There bot stops working kekw

[swift tree]

Bot parties during SEA time.
Like the old Oreha/Argos parties.
They do Brel/Clown/Vykas

[teal thistle]

Bots can do challenge guardians tho

[supple parrot]

yes they can.. they just arent joinin ur mm cubes

[sand marsh]

I've been in plenty of lower level cubes.

[supple parrot]

if u think

u cant program a bot to do cube

[swift tree]

Encountered 2-3 bots in Brelshaza.

[sand marsh]

They don't move to the next checkpoint

[supple parrot]

ur iq is below 20

im sry

[sand marsh]

Well ig there IQ is below 20