The 3% buff means zerks are now back in A tier
#lost-ark-discussions
cedar zealot
charred void
i got added by an esther 8 whale to his friendlists because of my performance yesterday in thaemine g3 hard 
supple parrot
red dust is too long, boss jump after 4 seconds u cant land all ur skills in red dust
low nebula
how make it more bursty without remaking all skills?
supple parrot
how make it more bursty without remaking all skills?
make reddust buff more but last less
cedar zealot
Playing sup is the superior way to experience the game, I mean look at deathboi, ditched zerk, swapped to pally main and now cleared g4 hm before most people here @charred void
low nebula
you would need like 3dmg 3 cd and done
cedar zealot
You can always choose the best groups, experience the least gatekeeping
low nebula
Playing sup is the superior way to experience the game, I mean look at deathboi,...
BIG TRUE
me same
but normal
charred void
i get declined for g3 hard reclears because i didnt clear yet
low nebula
supple parrot
if zerker was more bursty it would be fine, right now zerker is too sustained dps
and the dps is meh af
cedar zealot
Swap zerk with another sup and then you be balling
charred void
and for g1-2 hard they will suck your dick if you have 1 gem as support
low nebula
yep, zerk dps is flat line
low nebula
Swap zerk with another sup and then you be balling
cant afford to hone another sup to 1610
cedar zealot
Next express should be on August/September
cedar zealot
Start saving now 
uneven mortar
@supple parrot @quartz turret @tulip charm yall finna carry my zerk or what
on akkan
charred void
rosey afk
true tartan
Isn't wrekk like full 10s
uneven mortar
lets just wait
supple parrot
uneven mortar
damn
true tartan
Why does he need carry
uneven mortar
traitors
supple parrot
Isn't wrekk like full 10s
ya but full 10s is not full 11s
true tartan
low nebula
Why does he need carry
skill issue
fresh flint
Rmt cannot replace skill
true tartan
fresh flint
true tartan
Oh. U main slayer now huh
uneven mortar
yeah i can lets wait for rosey though
supple parrot
Being ask to do lantern
come do akkan with us
uneven mortar
or you planning to go now
uneven mortar
uneven mortar
true tartan
true tartan
It's Saturday here aswell
low nebula
sand marsh
sand marsh
always winning
sand marsh
3 tap 25 wep, always fuse dmg
uneven mortar
oh damn
low nebula
sand marsh
ez game
low nebula
rmt
cedar zealot
Streamer client
cedar zealot
scalp fused a cd but then rmt'd a dmg gem
sand marsh
scalp fused a cd but then rmt'd a dmg gem
sir go clear g4
low nebula
ew
cedar zealot
gonna cook instant noodle
sand marsh
what u doing on discord
true tartan
LOL chuan being asked by scalp
supple parrot
<@204004021244133376> ima get dinner if you proceed to go ahead go on
how long 
uneven mortar
how long <:monkaHmm:852993226285776897>
rosey in voldis anyway
supple parrot
during stage break
true tartan
Because he is teaching u how to clown
charred void
scalp™ top #1216 gamer in lost ark 
supple parrot
i mean, scalp literally spent like 10x the time i have in g4
sand marsh
i mean, scalp literally spent like 10x the time i have in g4 <:shruge:1100304847...
yea just do that
then it will be on farm
sand marsh
u jus gotta put in the time brudda
supple parrot
ya but if lobby sucks imma just leave
true tartan
sand marsh
i sacrificed 2 weeks of rice farming raids to clear g4
true tartan
It's free tho
sand marsh
i lobby hopped so many times
true tartan
charred void
where your static for g4
sand marsh
its natural
supple parrot
there isnt that many lobbies, its always the same ppl
sand marsh
there isnt that many lobbies, its always the same ppl
yea less than 1% of the population does it
there's only 150 hard mode clears total
on our version
charred void
misinfo
true tartan
teal thistle
there isnt that many lobbies, its always the same ppl
Not everyone can afford to get characters to that ILVL/cards/gems/etc
sand marsh
150 groups, thats like over 1000 ppl
not many people...
charred void
buoyant wagon
@true tartan almost there
sand marsh
so maybe not technically 1k
buoyant wagon
urban obsidian
<@167865815947804672> almost there
Took you long enough
buoyant wagon
true tartan
Hardwork paysoff
charred void
im hoping i hit 1640 before echidna, but prolly not
just 1tap
true tartan
urban obsidian
Nova the f2p week one +25 akkan
sand marsh
i spent it all on my weapon
urban obsidian
true tartan
Yea. As my idol once said
charred void
urban obsidian
Even better f2p then wrekk
true tartan
urban obsidian
He took so long to get +25 f2p
supple parrot
charred void
i was at 0 bags when i honed everything to 1490
sand marsh
19k gold per tap is
just hit up chuans cousin
teal thistle
19k gold per tap is
How many taps you need to hit pity?
sand marsh
gold is nothing
buoyant wagon
How many taps you need to hit pity?
110 at +24/25
buoyant wagon
my last piece hit at 14%
sand marsh
why would he do that, he would jus go negative gold
urban obsidian
U nit even trying to attempt tf right serenade
Why tf would we wanna get banned
sand marsh
buoyant wagon
i'd probably survive an investigation
but honestly
- not worth the tiny risk
- don't have team
true tartan
Why tf would we wanna get banned
Just be legit. Not hard
buoyant wagon
most of my friends sort of quit/went casual
true tartan
supple parrot
did u get eclispe nova
buoyant wagon
it's been nice playing other stuff like mahjong, v rising, diablo 4
true tartan
Yea
urban obsidian
it's been nice playing other stuff like mahjong, v rising, diablo 4
Mahjong WTF
buoyant wagon
i havent really raided or done dailies for 2 weeks
true tartan
Doubt.
sand marsh
it seems impossible for me to get a group for tf. the people i know willing to help who alrdy cleared are taking a break.
urban obsidian
Grandma
buoyant wagon
i'll probably go clear tf but like much later
charred void
and everyone needs dps not sup
just buy a clear 3 weeks before it ends
supple parrot
it seems impossible for me to get a group for tf. the people i know willing to h...
after merge we can clear it together in a full group of f2p enjoyers
charred void
will be like what, 900k?
uneven mortar
after merge we can clear it together in a full group of f2p enjoyers
wont be any nerge
true tartan
Nae and naw delay indefinitely
uneven mortar
merge
true tartan
supple parrot
supple parrot
wont be any nerge
i thought u cooking
uneven mortar
you gonan fuck over sea oce cn if you merge
uneven mortar
sand marsh
after merge we can clear it together in a full group of f2p enjoyers
thats if u clear by then
supple parrot
imma do my challenge abyss and stuff
sand marsh
uneven mortar
ok
buoyant wagon
i'm waiting to see if another friend group's clear survives
if they do
but they cleared not caring if they survive or not
true tartan
buoyant wagon
people just increasingly tired of the game
and want to go play other stuff without having to commit ungodly hours to this one game
true tartan
I mean fr tho. Play casually if u think you'll get burnt out
buoyant wagon
this game has the ultimate dilemma of
play too casual = no content because 1 or 2 characters
charred void
clear g1-3 on main and logout for the week
buoyant wagon
play too hardcore = burnout
sand marsh
play too casual = no content because 1 or 2 characters
well if they want to play other games.. i dont see how this is a difficult decision
its almost like these people want to play hardcore, but dont like the feeling of it
buoyant wagon
too casual also has gold problems but then again we all know how that's solved
true tartan
charred void
for what do you need gold for
sand marsh
too casual also has gold problems but then again we all know how that's solved
if your 1630 you are already ahead of most people
and ur rdy for the next piece of hard content
true tartan
Honing. Because gambling addiction
buoyant wagon
i mean i've gone full casual the past 2 weeks
supple parrot
i mean there isnt even nething to spend gold on, unless ur pushing ilvl for no reason
sand marsh
true, if you are 1630 you prolly have 10s
sand marsh
there's nothing else to rlly do. maybe log in once every few days, knock out a few raids. do that per week
only spend a few hours a week
true tartan
Ty zheng
true tartan
I mean I do raids not because of the gold
I just raid because I play with friends
Really depends on what u want
If u want gold. Yea sure
sand marsh
i only look forward to raiding on my main, everything else is kinda boring so i dont usually knock em all out
buoyant wagon
its just raid with friends on thaemine and ivory on 1-2 characters
then fuck off and chill on other games
buoyant wagon
it's pretty nice
tulip charm
you gonan fuck over sea oce cn if you merge
idc nae and w didn't get merged, NAw didn't get sa, thats all that matters
rigid aurora
@wintry crypt
sand marsh
idc nae and w didn't get merged, NAw didn't get sa, thats all that matters
nah i want nae and naw to get merged, eventually
more people to play with is always a good thing
true tartan
If they can fix the ping
supple parrot
idc nae and w didn't get merged, NAw didn't get sa, thats all that matters
u got akkans left?
this guy just ignores me
true tartan
Trust me alot people would want the same thing as you. Scalp
Problem is. They will most probably fk it up
And caused more people to quit
tulip charm
u got akkans left?
finished everything, all voldis, akkan and thaemine, even the extra raids
i just got 2x normal akkans left on slayer lol
true tartan
So what's the point then
buoyant wagon
OCE and SEA definitely have the most to lose from a merge
sand marsh
yeah i know, but there is no way to make everyone happy. there's a sacrifice somewhere. if someone decided to play on NAW while on a different planet, that's not amazons problem
true tartan
So untill they can find a solution to fix the ping issue
buoyant wagon
because ping has a very real possibility to be unplayable
true tartan
Wdym. Naw people are pretty happy right now
buoyant wagon
OCE is an officially serviced region, so it is sort of amazon's problem
when there is no OCE dedicated region
buoyant wagon
the only unfortunate part of NAW not merging is less 100 quality accesorries
supple parrot
if u connect onae
true tartan
Chuan. It will be fking bad
sand marsh
im saying if they merge NAE + NAW , people playing in some other country that is on NAW, will inevitably experience a ping increase.
true tartan
260 ping is dumb
sand marsh
you shoulda picked na.. if you live in na.. idk, doesnt sound like a crazy idea to me
true tartan
I play DE with 170 ping. Sometimes I'll have issue swapping stance
260 will just be a carrot str8 up my ass
buoyant wagon
scalp, how the fuck do people in OCE pick another server
when there aren't any closer ones
sand marsh
scalp, how the fuck do people in OCE pick another server
they just dont play. idk
sand marsh
i dont know of any game that is able to solve a ping problem like this. without OCE servers
pliant dragon
Dang knight insane
sand marsh
which have never been a thing for lost ark
true tartan
i dont know of any game that is able to solve a ping problem like this. without ...
That's why they are not merging
Not 5head.
sand marsh
That's why they are not merging
yeah i get that, but if u ask me. fuckem.
true tartan
They literally said they not merging till they found a solution
sand marsh
those people are probably rice farmers anyways
quartz turret
how do ppl hone thier sup to 1630 +25 weapon and still have garbage uptime
pliant dragon
They'll lose too many Chinese whales if they merge
true tartan
Yea the 'em' you're talking about is gonna tell u to fk off too
pliant dragon
Not gonna happen
supple parrot
wat gate r u in rosey
true tartan
What makes u the important person in this conversation
quartz turret
g3
true tartan
Lol
quartz turret
im dead
supple parrot
loser
quartz turret
sand marsh
i would imagine majority of the population matters more.
buoyant wagon
^
charred void
complainers should be happy that they dont get the japan solution
true tartan
Idk what u smoking
tulip charm
<:Bruhge:1032816892546658374> how do ppl hone thier sup to 1630 +25 weapon and s...
just be scalp hit your 25 supp weapon at 1% artisian
buoyant wagon
naw population wise isn't even meaningfully smaller than nae
tulip charm
and get mvp in g4
sand marsh
i dont play on NAW so i dont know. i just though most of NA, was NA people.
if it's not, shrug
i guess that only applies to NAE
buoyant wagon
NA population split is likely something around the lines of 55% NAE and 45% NAW
buoyant wagon
if not closer to equal
quartz turret
bruh im still in voiids
tulip charm
They'll lose too many Chinese whales if they merge
i doubt it, why would they whale on cn, there is no coomer skins there
true tartan
If the split numbers is like 90 to 10. I would think the same like you
uneven mortar
tulip charm
<@204004021244133376> <@532479054109212702> <@647059249331044353> <a:clappers:10...
what is happening?
true tartan
But I'm pretty sure majority of the players in naw are oce, sea
tulip charm
i don't have any left
uneven mortar
tulip charm
i just have 2x normal akkans on lopang slayers, i even did the akkan hms on artist and summoner
true tartan
So merging and causing 50% of pop to drop
uneven mortar
sand marsh
in that case i can't perceive a solution, without NAE getting hit with a ping increase, which i dont mind. i can play the game on 200 ping
true tartan
Is just not smart.
pliant dragon
Is gunlancer dpa competitive at endgame?
pliant dragon
DPS*
uneven mortar
fuckl no
quartz turret
k we wiped g3
uneven mortar
its not
true tartan
Depending on ur definition of competitice
buoyant wagon
Is gunlancer dpa competitive at endgame?
not against equally skilled players, no
true tartan
Competitive
supple parrot
Is gunlancer dpa competitive at endgame?
for latest raid, no, on farm content, its kinda ok cuz of the burrst
true tartan
They can do very well. But if by competitive u mean equally skilled dps. Doubt
uneven mortar
pliant dragon
I feel like 20mdps kinda low when meta classes can do 30+
sand marsh
best solution is probably to merge NAE into NAW. with the server location for NAW not changing. NAE to NAW is like a 60-70 ping difference unless you dont live on the east coast.
from my understanding, most NAE players are living on the east coast.
tulip charm
k we wiped g3
escape at g4, if you quit at g3 its impossible to restart lol
uneven mortar
sand marsh
since raiding dies down heavily around midnight
true tartan
best solution is probably to merge NAE into NAW. with the server location for NA...
Like you said. There's no way to satisfy everyone. U might be OK to play with higher ping merging into naw
uneven mortar
@pliant dragon thaemine is the closest raid to trixion
true tartan
Most of NAE people will complain
supple parrot
zerker on bottom 
uneven mortar
i mean the dps data
sand marsh
and those people can fuck off lol. if they quit the game from 15ms to 90ms, they are just stupid as hell.
buoyant wagon
also merging into NAW also might create the issue of NAW having name priority
due to being the region merged into
and that will definitely piss people off
true tartan
The name priority I really think
pliant dragon
Kayangel U need aggro control
true tartan
It's fk all
buoyant wagon
it's another thing for people to complain about
true tartan
Yea. I'd rather have higher pop
tulip charm
i fked up, i really should have put in time in g3h, only put in an hour, they all want lv7 now.
true tartan
To name issues if u ask me
sand marsh
if anyone on NAE complains about going from 15ms to 90ms, those are the extreme minority.
low nebula
by being god gamer
thorn sluice
Complain about names 
true tartan
if anyone on NAE complains about going from 15ms to 90ms, those are the extreme ...
There are people complaining about literally ign change
pliant dragon
Is it lazumar set eso? I think that card set has high burst potential
buoyant wagon
if anyone on NAE complains about going from 15ms to 90ms, those are the extreme ...
the average person is going to be selfish about their own gameplay
true tartan
U think 15 to 90 ping they won't go ape shit?
buoyant wagon
why would they not complain
sand marsh
There are people complaining about literally ign change
yea, probably the same people stating that 90ms will ruin the game kekw
uneven mortar
they wont prioritize nae over naw
lol
more players in nae
if anything they wait for more oce sea people to quit
then when they merge less consequence
sand marsh
the average person is going to be selfish about their own gameplay
you may be right, but 15 to 90ms is literally not perceivable. not in this game at least.
true tartan
Yea. U tell this to sea players they will tell u its playable. U tell that to NAE. They will tell u to fk off
pliant dragon
Eh game is playable at 150ms imo, but I would hate to see 250+
kindred ravine
IF I GO FROM 50MS TO 70MS THE GAME WILL BE UNPLAYABLE. I DON’T WANT TO HAVE TO SUFFER ON NAW
who said that
supple parrot
Yea. U tell this to sea players they will tell u its playable. U tell that to NA...
just move to maerica
problem solved
supple parrot
is there a height limit to enter america or something?
true tartan
just move to maerica
Idw to pay tips to waiters
tiny sage
Im at blue rn
buoyant wagon
Idw to pay tips to waiters
become a waiter and get tipped
supple parrot
Idw to pay tips to waiters
buoyant wagon
true tartan
Smart
sand marsh
Considering most people on NAE are located in US (i know this because of the amount of raid lobbies in certain times), i think NAE becoming NAW is the only realistic solution.
true tartan
Will think about it
kindred ravine
Idw to pay tips to waiters
Don’t tip them then. Their fault for working at a dogshit establishment
supple parrot
@quartz turret u in g4 yet?
supple parrot
or u dead again
kindred ravine
sand marsh
people will riot
what would they riot about lol
buoyant wagon
a lot of people on NAE already dont want NAW to be merged in due to bots
sand marsh
they aren't playing from fckin AUS
sand marsh
a lot of people on NAE already dont want NAW to be merged in due to bots
bots are extremely bad on NAE
true tartan
They think NAE don't have to do it because they are fine
true tartan
Why do they have to add another 50ping
buoyant wagon
^
the average player is going to go "why must i get a ping increase"
"we're the main NA region"
sand marsh
more lobbies to see, more people to see..
quartz turret
im in g4 now
buoyant wagon
"why do i have to bend over to a bunch of SEAmonkeys and Chang bots"
of course people don't think that far
sand marsh
the average player is going to go "why must i get a ping increase"
yeah but they wont notice the ping increase lol.
i've played on NAW, i see 0 difference
buoyant wagon
they're going to be inherently selfish about their own gameplay
sand marsh
maybe it's cause im not 40 years old
kindred ravine
yeah but they wont notice the ping increase lol.
They will notice it.
They’ll see number 10 bigger be unga bunga
buoyant wagon
people on 40 ping already blame deaths on lag
pliant dragon
East merging to West is better than the other way around for both aides
buoyant wagon
they're going to blame it even harder on 90 ping
sand marsh
They will notice it.
no they will just pretend to notice it.
example: merge happens, player originally on NAE causes a wipe, blames it on ping
which in fact, it's them being shit at thegame
kindred ravine
That’s what I’m saying
sand marsh
i dont know why it's so hard to not be disengeious. am i crazy for thinking this lol
kindred ravine
They’ll “notice” it. The number will be like 10-20 higher and not change anything other than that and game will suddenly become unplayable somehow
cursive ruin
hmmmmmm
pliant dragon
If my ass can dodge on 150ms you aren't gonna get any problems at 70ms
supple parrot
he was in g3 15 min ago
sand marsh
They’ll “notice” it. The number will be like 10-20 higher and not change anythin...
i cant believe that a lot of people will have this mindset.
i would hope most people think like i do in this aspect, the overall betterment of the game.
buoyant wagon
that's because you never go outside
and see the real world to get an idea of how people react to stuff
sand marsh
what does having to go outside have to do with anything
buoyant wagon
how have you managed to live this long and be surprised at how people will react to a situation like this
sand marsh
usually when you are invested into something, you want that investment to grow.
crazy idea, i know
buoyant wagon
people do not think that far or complicated about something like video gaming in general
pliant dragon
Most people are pretty chill outside tbh, it's the online with the keyboard warriors
buoyant wagon
hell, they dont even think that far with regard to their own finances
buoyant wagon
which is why so many people are financially illiterate
tulip charm
more players in nae
really? i thought it was naw with more players
cursive ruin
I play on 75 consistent and the only time I go "bullshit" is a fast attack like kakul throwing out cards in g1
sand marsh
people do not think that far or complicated about something like video gaming in...
they think far enough to make reddit posts complaining about gold sinks
so it's not far fetched
wary ridge
what does having to go outside have to do with anything
“I would hope most people think like I do” when you interact with the general pop u realize most ppl are dense
pliant dragon
NAW has more players if you count the bots too
buoyant wagon
because gold sinks are something that affects them in real time
any consequences of region merges will also
supple parrot
he might be still in g3 30 mins later
supple parrot
he might be still in g3 30 mins later
we can just go without him
sand marsh
“I would hope most people think like I do” when you interact with the general po...
yeah but we are talking about a very small community. i know how stupid the general population is
uneven mortar
we gonna betray rosey?
buoyant wagon
any negative will be taken as a negative even if the effects of the negative are minimal
wary ridge
any negative will be taken as a negative even if the effects of the negative are...
I took this negatively
buoyant wagon
people don't like negatives, they don't even like compromise for the most part
they want things to fully go their way
sand marsh
any negative will be taken as a negative even if the effects of the negative are...
and you think people will quit? the people complaining about elixirs everyday are still playing the game
uneven mortar
we can just go without him <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
ok
supple parrot
@quartz turret u in g4?
sand marsh
trust me, bob living in NY playing lost ark is not gonna quit because he gets merged to NAW
buoyant wagon
they probably wont quit, but they can complain loud enough to make AGS reconsider merges
supple parrot
fucking loser rosey man
uneven mortar
i dont know why he went voldis pug
sand marsh
they probably wont quit, but they can complain loud enough to make AGS reconside...
ehh, im not so sure about that. people complained so hard about pheons, it still exists. same with other systems in the game
support shortage is probably the loudest complaint that goes unheard
buoyant wagon
pheons are a completely different thing
that's in SG's ballpark
no amount of foreign complaining will get SG to change it
and Koreans have long since "accepted" the system
buoyant wagon
time to join and get carried
quartz turret
im out
quartz turret
bro its 6am
nah its only 3 am
sand marsh
its only 6 if ur a loser
yea ok
sand marsh
cause i can be
supple parrot
u said we do nae raid today scalp
quartz turret
huge pally carry
uneven mortar
@supple parrot you want to get few more 1620s first? people wont join with me in it
quartz turret
uneven mortar
accept 1620s first
supple parrot
so i did em all
uneven mortar
ill join as 7th or last
quartz turret
so i did em all
wtf betrayed
thorn sluice
sand marsh
<:madge:957353442995740723> wtf betrayed
i lied
uneven mortar
@gleaming pendant
quartz turret
how am i gonna do akkan now
supple parrot
sand marsh
whisper them
quartz turret
we can finally see whos the real zerk
supple parrot
uncut dirge
jumpstart server has both balthorr and wei up at the same time
quartz turret
sand marsh
always afk
uneven mortar
now have to shag a corpse
i just realized most of the people here is nae or euc
at this time
lol
still lintel
uncut dirge
who are you filling? the bard?
uneven mortar
im gonna play genshin
quartz turret
bunch of shitters
quartz turret
i mean i have arti left
uneven mortar
as weak as weakest link kinda thing
supple parrot
i mean there is literally
quartz turret
supple parrot
no 1620s applyhing since start
supple parrot
im accepting everyone
uncut dirge
i'd join you on my 1620 if i was na
quartz turret
buoyant wagon
uneven mortar
chuan's friend
supple parrot
chuan's friend
thats serenei
quartz turret
wtf is this missing 1 hone
quartz turret
instead of just joining this one
they have 2 sup friend
quartz turret
uneven mortar
im stagerbot
buoyant wagon
im only doing this because i need shards to hone
quartz turret
we have dest, 2 zerk, pally artist
kindred ravine
In brightest day, in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evil's might beware my power… Green Lantern's light!
kindred ravine
a lot of green lanterns on tonight
burnt tree
In brightest day, in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let those wh...
chill out lantern
wintry crypt
<:Wave:702030051000057916>
burnt tree
cedar zealot
i've been playing diablo 4 all week
Is it good now?
buoyant wagon
better than before
kindred ravine
chill out lantern
buoyant wagon
season pretty fun
indigo flax
wowie a whole month away from lost ark
kindred ravine
https://tenor.com/view/darkside-justice-league-green-lantern-hurt-back-fired-gif...
i was just thinking of that gif 
burnt tree
i was just thinking of that gif <:kekw:977662299928145971>
same 
quartz turret
wait whys that gs so low
kindred ravine
burnt tree
lost ark players toxic frfr
kindred ravine
frfr
burnt tree
cursive ruin
brel g4 ful of toddlers
kindred ravine
are you included in that
dull obsidian
T1 1-1
ancient tundra
lost ark players toxic frfr
We have every breed of toxic
dull obsidian
burnt tree
We have every breed of toxic
and theres me, giga calm 
charred void
balthor? nice time to get dd 30
ancient tundra
and theres me, giga calm <:Sip:976613777107746836>
burnt tree
<:Susge:1065387133990355014>
surreal bolt
thorn sluice
surreal bolt
gleaming pendant
https://tenor.com/view/el-transporte-nanachi-made-in-abyss-reimu-reimu-hakurei-g...
covert pine
question,
Sharpshooter, Death striker can go for 50/50 if im using adrenalin 3 and hallu set
gleaming pendant
cursive ruin
what is bro cooking
charred void
what is bro cooking
whats wrong with that
cursive ruin
ep3
charred void
its <1580 nobody cares
bitter lichen
modern grail
YASUO IN ESPORTS?
u hacent watched g2 vs tes?
kindred ravine
i didn't no
supple parrot
the ayaya
modern grail
yea u only watch t1
ancient belfry
this is so troll from t1
kindred ravine
no
modern grail
bozo
buoyant wagon
i misclicked and accidentally clicked to move up
kindred ravine
this is my first time watching esports this season
quartz turret
smooth run
modern grail
this is so troll from t1
huh
uneven mortar
he was really unlucky got ragdolled
buoyant wagon
so i didnt get pushed back far enough
kindred ravine
only because i'm actually awake rn
modern grail
why is this is a troll
uneven mortar
you have to almost be at the edge
modern grail
when yas clearly counters tf
buoyant wagon
i moved up by accident
ancient belfry
id never seen a comp like that before xD
buoyant wagon
because the fucking FOV of that phase
is dumb
and you accidentally misclick sometimes
modern grail
id never seen a comp like that before xD
bc u only watched today lil bro
ofc its your first time seeing that shit
pliant dragon
this is my first time watching esports this season
same, my first time watching league since 2020 or something
ancient belfry
true, i am new to watching this xd
modern grail
yea so stop giving opinions if youre new lil bro
ancient belfry
quartz turret
holy fuck man
kindred ravine
i didn't want to watch them at all because of how they changed the fucking emote drops
ancient belfry
ite chill lol
uneven mortar
modern grail
i didn't want to watch them at all because of how they changed the fucking emote...
?? 😭
kindred ravine
guys please go to raid chat if you're not discussing lost ark
modern grail
idc about emotes bro
kindred ravine
neon cedar
guys please go to raid chat if you're not discussing lost ark
Sorry this is a league of legends chat most of the time
modern grail
not an excuse to yap wrong
kindred ravine
who is yapping wrong?
pliant dragon
this chat gonna be a wuwa discussion channel next year
kindred ravine
is it chris and chris again?
oh
for what? I just never seen Yas in esports until apparently this season
modern grail
for what? I just never seen Yas in esports until apparently this season
i was asking if u watched g2 vs tes
kindred ravine
i just asked a question
kindred ravine
i also said i wasn't awake this early every other time
pliant dragon
wtf nidalee
neon cedar
one is you
But whos number 2? 
🍿
modern grail
i also said i wasn't awake this early every other time
i mean from all msi games you only watched 2 or 3
modern grail
But whos number 2? <a:popcat:1104970687355043870> 🍿
the other one who said t1 draft is troll
uncut dirge
wohoo
pliant dragon
is this faker's 1st time on zac?
uncut dirge
finally klc18
modern grail
and why does that make me a bozo?
bc you yap about youre not sure about
pliant dragon
@uncut dirge grats
modern grail
u r lil bro
kindred ravine
inbred ape
uncut dirge
thanks
pliant dragon
time to mvp on kayangel
kindred ravine
is this faker's 1st time on zac?
apparently his first time in esports playing zac on the screen? from what the announcers were saying
modern grail
uncut dirge
watch what
fallow marlin
some boomer game
kindred ravine
bro is mad I asked about yas being in esports as a geniune question thinking I'm calling it troll or stupid
fallow marlin
starcraft is pretty cool tho <@176505000162230272>
only the best
modern grail
is this faker's 1st time on zac?
it is his first zac mid game ye on official game ye
kindred ravine
not best enough to have sc3
fallow marlin
best esports next to cs
kindred ravine
uncut dirge
not best enough to have sc3
well, that's for the best though
since, you know, blizzard
kindred ravine
yeah
modern grail
bro is mad I asked about yas being in esports as a geniune question thinking I'm...
damn u were genuinely asking? i thought u were trolling cus other said draft was a troll
fallow marlin
sc2 is the biggest example when a developer kills a scene
because they wanted control
kindred ravine
damn u were genuinely asking? i thought u were trolling cus other said draft was...
no i was asking because i thought no one played yas in esports or even high elo
thought it was some gold and below shitter pick
fallow marlin
@uncut dirge btw ASL is still popping the fuck off
kindred ravine
modern grail
no i was asking because i thought no one played yas in esports or even high elo
bruh my bad then, u still a bozo tho
uncut dirge
sc2 is the biggest example when a developer kills a scene
i think that it's kinda both
modern grail
fallow marlin
broodwar is still going strong after the remake
uncut dirge
sc2 is an example of when a developer killed the scene
modern grail
thought it was some gold and below shitter pick
but yea watch g2 vs tes, yas is a counter for tf top
uncut dirge
but it's also an example where they didn't do enough
fallow marlin
its both
uncut dirge
they basically half-assed it, they didn't go hands off like they did with BW
pliant dragon
any protoss enjoyers?
uncut dirge
and they didn't do as much as league
fallow marlin
blizzard wanted control of the scene but didnt know what to do
same with what they did with overwatch
it had a incredible strong scene
then they killed it with owl
modern grail
with tf has no movement, yas can easily peel tf
kindred ravine
ruining games with esports. just let mfers have fun
fallow marlin
overwatch before owl had a insanely strong t1-3 scene
then it got wrecked by blizzard and overwatch never recovered after that
fallow marlin
overwatch had so much potential
its just sad blizzard used it as a publicity tool
for their fuck ups
uncut dirge
starcraft has the second problem of being too hard as a genre
RTS has kinda fallen off
pliant dragon
yeah, RTS is hard
fallow marlin
they tried to make sc2 newbie friendly
it just killed the hardcore scene along withit
pliant dragon
the amount of macro u need is insane
kindred ravine
if they didn't fucking shit on wc3 reforged maybe the scene could've been on life support for a bit
pliant dragon
like 200APM
fallow marlin
but its clear now
blizzard games
are no longer the good quality games
like they used to
kindred ravine
i wanted to play wc3 reforge custom maps but they just ruined the game from what i heard
uncut dirge
imo an RTS these days should either make micro or macro easier
lower the skill ceiling a bit in terms of speed requirements
fallow marlin
@uncut dirge honestly think an rts like wc3 does is the best
uncut dirge
cause the further along we go, the more we're gonna get cheats too
fallow marlin
have a hero and build around the hero
uncut dirge
so if there's things that can only be done when being very fast then people are gonna macro that shit
pliant dragon
I haven't played d4 since launch and beating hell lillith
uncut dirge
have a hero and build around the hero
imo this is why games like lol and dota do well
they basically took the micro part of what RTS is
and made the macro into CS-like
fallow marlin
wc3 has alot of micro but
the hero
helps alot
with minimizing it
its not the case for starcraft
uncut dirge
are no longer the good quality games
i'm a bit older, so to me this comes as no surprise
from my perspective blizzard hasn't been doing great since diablo 3's release
fallow marlin
d3 was the first time ive seen them falter
charred void
diablo 2 wasnt even that great of a game
but there were no 100000 games on the market
uncut dirge
nah
fallow marlin
well diablo 2 was an okay game
uncut dirge
there were lots of potentially competing games for diablo 2
fallow marlin
trading and RMT probably carried d2
uncut dirge
path of exile released after diablo 3
fallow marlin
for along time
uncut dirge
but poe got ladder seasons (leagues) before d3
and that's been carrying them higher and higher
fallow marlin
i know some people older than me that made a living
selling d2 runes
back in the day
uncut dirge
in my opinion ladder seasons is entirely what carried d2
in the mid 2000s i hopped from (free KR) mmo to mmo
and i realized that what i enjoyed the most was a fresh economy and fresh game systems to explore at the same time as others
and apparently so did a lot of other people
and ladder seasons take advantage of that
it's like 15 years later and runescape even benefits from this
kindred ravine
damn game just looks free for BLG rn
uncut dirge
OSRS had its highest playercount, that was like 2007 levels, during their latest league
uncut dirge
<@143638765804584960> I'm guessing you're around 35-40 right?
a bit younger than that
kindred ravine
they still have a shit ton of players even though there's some bots
pliant dragon
I remember hoarding a bunch of party hats as a kid
uncut dirge
that's true, but leagues are a solo experience, so bots don't help there
kindred ravine
yeah
uncut dirge
so there's not like a giant spike in botting activity during them
kindred ravine
oh i might be thinking about deadman mode
uncut dirge
ye