Ok guys get a room
#lost-ark-discussions
rigid aurora
no stfu
robust birch
stfu
wind dagger
ancient tundra
robust birch
stfuego
rigid aurora
im going to curse your future generations
ancient tundra
Can t they will never be born
wind dagger
ancient tundra
rigid aurora
wind dagger
cursive ruin
cool
cursive ruin
these 2 green haired twats again
rigid aurora
stark thicket
im going to curse your future generations
Curse dn
rancid blade
🙂
rigid aurora
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/s/U3vTQipaVf
setsura ahh post
cedar zealot
If you were cute like them, people would be linking gifs of you
buoyant wagon
well
cedar zealot
And medoo not free anyways
Tell medoo he a lil b too, just like mizu
buoyant wagon
the raid will definitely burn out a fair bit of people
who were already on the verge of deciding whether to keep playing
cursive ruin
If you were cute like them, people would be linking gifs of you
well I actually do exist so
cursive ruin
the raid will definitely burn out a fair bit of people
just don't play it lol 
buoyant wagon
you need to do it for progression
and transcendence is basically elixirs 2.0 to people who hated elixirs
cursive ruin
progressing into what? future raids? don't do those either
ancient tundra
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/s/U3vTQipaVf
Setsura post ong
cursive ruin
keep doing akkan and voldis until the day you die
rancid blade
Transcendence looks pretty annoying yeah
native folio
any bard that can help a fellow bard? 
buoyant wagon
problem is all future content is ilvl gated for entry, not to mention g0 of party finder
cedar zealot
Na only midzu is a lil bitch
I kept the b word up to the readers imagination
cedar zealot
and transcendence is basically elixirs 2.0 to people who hated elixirs
It's more RNG?
cursive ruin
any bard that can help a fellow bard? <:PepeHands:965745888049901638>
no, play artist
cedar zealot
Thought transcendence had pity
buoyant wagon
its not as bad as elixirs
kind lotus
whats the transcende priority?
cursive ruin
bro if people are crying about normal mode how long will it take for hm to clear
buoyant wagon
but it's still a rng system and people hate that shit
and it's gated behind a fairly difficult raid even in NM
and transcendence 7 is locked behind a HM g3 clear
which means a lot of people are going to need to buy a bus
we got a nerfed version
cursive ruin
oh yeah lol someone made a good point on reddit
buoyant wagon
but it's still going to be brutal for many players
cursive ruin
imagine powerpassing into this
cursive ruin
God that must suck, the raid seems difficult
Good luck guys, I'm gonna go prog ivory tower now
dull obsidian
g3 kinda 
cursive ruin
dull obsidian
Me getting ping gapped
buoyant wagon
people whose original accounts were there, people who bought/rented accounts to practice there
midnight marlin
I can't dodge the fucking uppercut -> slashes during 255
yeah that shits fkd
dull obsidian
they literally bought RU/KR accounts to play the raid
midnight marlin
i just tank it
buoyant wagon
HM g3/g4 is more unforgiving than any other non-hell mode raid in this game by far
even pre nerf KR brel
cursive ruin
heard they one shot and there's no telegraphs
dull obsidian
uppercut -> slashes with no DR/Shield is doing over 350k damage
midnight marlin
even hell mode lets you tank 2 patterns ok if you're full
buoyant wagon
one shots have telegraphs but not if you are afflicted with blind debuff
cursive ruin
even hell mode lets you tank 2 patterns ok if you're full
boy shut yo bitch ass up you play heavy armor
buoyant wagon
getting hit by many patterns stacks an increased damage taken debuff that is essentially lethal once you go over 2 stacks
midnight marlin
you shut up you're progging tower
midnight marlin
you take your shit back
cursive ruin
imagine they gave everyone los 30? it would be meaningless
stark thicket
you take your shit back
buoyant wagon
but yeah this raid will separate the boys from the men, and more than a few people who were on the verge of deciding to quit may be pushed to quit
because it's way too unforgiving of a homework raid (nm)
cursive ruin
dd 12 isn't legendary cards my boy, the whole point of the LOS set is that it's hard-ish to and show the player has been progressing for a while
they tried to boost players into raids by giving them double roster xp on the jumpstart server and what happened? people gatekept it
midnight marlin
we have the later version kr
buoyant wagon
Korea just overgears the shit out of normal mode
cursive ruin
but why gatekeep? i have high roster
charred void
because it's way too unforgiving of a homework raid (nm)
maybe some glue eaters stop playing 6+ "alts" now
midnight marlin
yes
buoyant wagon
hm g3 is still way too unreliable to pug even with 1660s in KR
buoyant wagon
sure you can beat NM to death swinging your dick at 1650
cursive ruin
imagine being so badass ur sword makes people pull they hair out
buoyant wagon
but lots of people arent going to wait until like 4 months later to do that
midnight marlin
dont look at the 50k gold
cursive ruin
no
buoyant wagon
it's for the extra transcendence mats if you can reliably clear it
and to do the first if that's in your plans
and one clear of hm g3 is required to unlock transcendence level 7
cursive ruin
if u get 50k from clearing hard mode please give me it
urban obsidian
buoyant wagon
cumulative all 4 gates
buoyant wagon
you get like 40k gold
cursive ruin
50k is the first
yea give me it
cursive ruin
1490 then once u have full brel park at 1520 and slowly push to 1540 is what i did, although caliligos is unbearable and hanu is becoming so bot filled I'm more incentivised to push to 1580
buoyant wagon
i think there's also a difference in expectations/mentality here vs KR
midnight marlin
just tell him to rmt
buoyant wagon
KR is much more willing to suffer through homework content that can't immediately be walked over
cursive ruin
just tell him to rmt
buoyant wagon
Our region isn't as willing to do that
rancid blade
just tell him to rmt
Finally the real answer
cursive ruin
if u wanna play raids on that character and not buy busses until it's 1540 u have to
or buy voldis pass, hone gear, then do 5x3+1
buoyant wagon
It's why games with easy homework like WoW and FF14 are more popular designs
ancient tundra
It's why games with easy homework like WoW and FF14 are more popular designs
Ff14 is more fun homework wise ?
cursive ruin
I think 50 dollars
cursive ruin
if u knowledge tranfser to elgacia with in game gold and some elbow grease u can get it for just 10
brazen cave
Why are honor shard pouch prices tanking 😦
cursive ruin
full ancient armor
buoyant wagon
it's essentially impossible to get jailed in ff14 homework
whereas that is absolutely not the case here
valid turtle
Why are honor shard pouch prices tanking 😦
we have been recieving ALOT of free mats from raiding
every character gets the clear rewards
buoyant wagon
many people stopped honing
and therefore dont need shards
express has also been out for a month
the people who wanted to push their express characters already did
cursive ruin
yes, but u need to hone ur armor to 1460
buoyant wagon
the rest are just chilling
cursive ruin
then the pass from there costs just $10
actually
it's a bit more complicated than that
see the pass costs 1100 white crystals and the cheapest package is 1000 crystals for $10, so u end up buying the $20 package that gives u 2200, for the remaining 1100 u can buy the level complete pack and get a shit ton of blue crystals to get 6 month aura or whatever
no u don't get 1580
u get 1510, which is base ancient armor
ur still gonna suffer through the heck that is vanilla honing to 1580 unless ur using some sort of express
which i am suffering through rn
yeah it's pretty good, so u don't have to wait 4 weeks for ancient armor like I am rn
cursive ruin
although I think u can get it in 3 if u bid on box in g3 every week
buoyant wagon
Didn’t pity, 46% 
vagrant cradle
cursive ruin
just take the game slowly and clear ur event shop every week and u'll get there
kind oriole
G3 Thaemine, even dark souls bosses simpler 
valid turtle
this game is only bad if you have fomo
like
all my main 6 are sitting on 3 mil shards
and thats not even alot
buoyant wagon
G3 normal is fair once you are familiar with the raid and if you have hands
cursive ruin
G3 Thaemine, even dark souls bosses simpler <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
dark souls bosses aren't even too difficult, at least in dark souls you learn pattern dodge pattern do damage, but in thaemine if someone dies while ur progging u have to restart no? so that's like, if dark souls was a 8v1 and anyone dying had u restart
valid turtle
ya thats fine, just do dailies and weekly raids and let your mats build up
buoyant wagon
The previous raids were all proggable in a day
So people have been in for a rude awakening
rancid blade
Rmt can’t help you win thaemine
urban obsidian
225 with 4 ppl
charred void
it can, you buy south koreans to play the game for you
buoyant wagon
It can if you go do nm at like 1620-1630 with level 10s and 40 set
zealous lintel
people are too spoiled honestly
buoyant wagon
Because the boss just gets smacked to death as long as you don’t grief too hard
urban obsidian
wdf
zealous lintel
we rolled over 1 and 2 today. g3 180 bars.
kind oriole
dark souls bosses aren't even too difficult, at least in dark souls you learn pa...
After Thaemine G3 prog mine entire static was disbanded
buoyant wagon
Still going to take longer to prog than other raids
kind oriole
cursive ruin
frog is gone why are marvelous still 8 gold 
swift tree
frog is gone why are marvelous still 8 gold <:starege:1024684069864349877>
They’re going back up
rancid blade
it can, you buy south koreans to play the game for you
Holy shit you are right
kind oriole
hard or nm?
Hard ofc
cursive ruin
They’re going back up
word? i'll buy like 50k worth then
swift tree
Marvs on NAE were 10 an hour ago
kind oriole
buoyant wagon
If you disband on day 1
zealous lintel
<:KEKW:834726120606924850>
well why disband after not clearing it in the frist week lol
queen grail
Hit 5 stars on my Artist too 
now I'm even more tanky 
charred void
Holy shit you are right
what do you think all the tryhards will do in 2 days when the race opens
zealous lintel
what the actual 😄
azure valley
statics booming
buoyant wagon
It either means you guys have no resilience or people were imposters with how good they are at their class
rancid blade
what do you think all the tryhards will do in 2 days when the race opens
Oh I know this was inevitable
zealous lintel
the first clears looking grim
dull obsidian
we rolled over 1 and 2 today. g3 180 bars.
hm?
queen grail
After Thaemine G3 prog mine entire static was disbanded
Like, normal or hard? 
rancid blade
🧑✈️
cursive ruin
what do you think all the tryhards will do in 2 days when the race opens
nothing, all top slots already taken by sankovinsky
kind oriole
Im too not gonna give a fuck about g3, sold all other characters stuff and left only one character, enought
Fuck this game
wind dagger
wind dagger
Thaemine G3 changed ur whole life
dull obsidian
zealous lintel
had 2 hours
queen grail
Fuck this game
charred void
Im too not gonna give a fuck about g3, sold all other characters stuff and left ...
finally someone woke up 
zealous lintel
1 and 2 first clears
cursive ruin
is g4 harder than g3? like in kr n stuff
buoyant wagon
The top candidates for the fastest clear are the full KR get teams
buoyant wagon
G4 is easier in some ways than G3
cursive ruin
I'm slowly starting to understand why there was some loud ass crying at the end of The First clear in kr
zealous lintel
you can tank almost everything in nm
queen grail
zealous lintel
even the blade hit when ilvl high enough
buoyant wagon
But G4 has a lot more bullshit
cursive ruin
man i wish i could be struggling like u guys rn
but i don't even have enough silver to repair my armor let alone hone to 1610
midnight lightBOT
cursive ruin
an asura3 gr6 97 qual ring
zealous lintel
Im too not gonna give a fuck about g3, sold all other characters stuff and left ...
brel 2.0
cursive ruin
From 18 raids in week to 3
ur bloodline is as weak as a vampire in a sun made of garlic
zealous lintel
dull obsidian
we still doing 18 raids a week
valid turtle
Im too not gonna give a fuck about g3, sold all other characters stuff and left ...
why would you brick your account?
zealous lintel
but i seriously dont understand how people get this angry over a raid not being able to clear first week
valid turtle
u cleared g3???
kind oriole
Nah, 3-6 raids per week. Is limit no more that shit anymore. Need new geimge to play. Whats next on horizont in releases
charred void
but i seriously dont understand how people get this angry over a raid not being ...
they even have guides for months now
cursive ruin
i inst adied
well he did say no one escapes the darkness
zealous lintel
Nah, 3-6 raids per week. Is limit no more that shit anymore. Need new geimge to ...
T&L
cursive ruin
u think he was messing around?
zealous lintel
they even have guides for months now
the raid just released
rancid blade
Smol….
zealous lintel
people didnt play WoW back in the day or even today? People couldnt clear raids for weeks
cursive ruin
this is so fun to watch live
zealous lintel
even months
cursive ruin
@nova garden isn't this what you waited for? hope you're having fun
charred void
azena/balthorr/wei are from merchants with somewhat high chance to spawn now
cursive ruin
dark raft
GUYS so frkn close i cantaste it 
charred void
<@153985058477178881> You wanna do one normal Trample?
queen grail
Bus / regular?
dull obsidian
lmao
charred void
regular ofc
wind dagger
wtf
cedar zealot
Nah, 3-6 raids per week. Is limit no more that shit anymore. Need new geimge to ...
Wuthering waves next month
queen grail
No, he's sitting on the bus.
cedar zealot
charred void
but yes, after that i would be up for 1 run tower
kind oriole
Wuthering waves next month
Ok, need to check, thanks
queen grail
but yes, after that i would be up for 1 run tower
Alright, we can do one run after, I'll do a quick clown into a break then while we wait.
fresh flint
Alright, we can do one run after, I'll do a quick clown into a break then while ...
oh wow u take breaks?
cursive ruin
damn 1m shield
fresh flint
hardly done any raids.
fresh flint
i have unlimited coom
lime dove
They shud make DI SH awakening into one of her regular abilities
Add one more ability
And give her a new awakening or something
charred void
di sh is good sustain dps
cant have 3 burst dps all holding skills for the burst moment
aka failing staggerchecks
bold aspen
charred void
thats only 8 pages
charred void
ok
tardy tusk
fresh flint
cursive ruin
fresh flint
<:WeirdDog:903701678069518346>
ban
keen copper
@midnight marlin 
its even cheaper
fresh flint
cursive ruin
oh bother
queen grail
@charred void How's it going?
keen copper
pocket change
cursive ruin
lend me silver
fresh flint
@midnight marlin did u clear thaemine yet
midnight marlin
no i need a group
keen copper
midnight marlin
stopped after 3 groups all couldnt counter
charred void
<@153985058477178881> How's it going? <:YEP:1041460387142455316>
g3 120
keen copper
no i need a group
dude, fragfest from cpp and highlander con from ucr are interferring with my thaemine prog
urban obsidian
stopped after 3 groups all couldnt counter
skil issue
my group got to x210
we CLASHED
midnight marlin
urban obsidian
midnight marlin
im never going to clash
keen copper
clash is piss easy 
midnight marlin
inting if sup clasehes
cursive ruin
we CLASHED
did you win
cursive ruin
midnight marlin
skil issue
midnight marlin
fear orb?
supple parrot
Don’t u get a big self dps buff if u perfect the clash?
cursive ruin
10% atk power
that's like almost x2 max demon damage!
midnight marlin
no?
supple parrot
midnight marlin
demon damage is much higher
cursive ruin
vagrant cradle
<:shruge:1100304847183560726>
cursive ruin
6.2%?
midnight marlin
multi
supple parrot
10% is big
cursive ruin
<:shruge:1100304847183560726>
cursive ruin
midnight marlin
i thought atk buffs were additive with cd and adr adn shit
midnight marlin
<:play_dead:1008764658800406539>
the hell are you even gonna do witha sup +2
charred void
@queen grail i log on trashpala
cursive ruin
the hell are you even gonna do witha sup +2
nothing, just get a very cheap 5x3+1
cursive ruin
it's equal to a 7-7 so yes
not very cheap but
cheap enough
2 ancient pieces i think
midnight marlin
is this pala
cursive ruin
yeah it's pala
this is what my current pala looks like keep in mind my first ever built char
wind dagger
supple parrot
this is what my current pala looks like keep in mind my first ever built char
Cheapos
cursive ruin
i put a disclaimer bro
midnight marlin
ye 2 ancients
cursive ruin
i wonder what the cheapest 6 for support is
rocky jackal
Crisis evasion
cursive ruin
expert6 vph3 is cheap
rocky jackal
Or judgement for pala
empty sleet
this guy
cursive ruin
idk about judgement +1
rocky jackal
I use it
cursive ruin
drops 6 is giga cheap
charred void
6,2% demon dmg woah
cursive ruin
drops 3 awake 6 is much cheaper
charred void
he talks about 6 nodes on drops, not +1 drops in a 5x3+1 setup
cursive ruin
ye
rocky jackal
Drops is still trash tho
cursive ruin
drops 6 expert 3 for example
cursive ruin
Drops is still trash tho
i play with people in vc who pick up my orbs so it's all gucci in the hucci
midnight marlin
drops of shit
rocky jackal
Still
cursive ruin
not gonna play ms3
rocky jackal
So many better options
rocky jackal
not gonna play ms3
Skill issue?
charred void
Skill issue?
so you dont get hit in any raid on paladin so you use magick stream?
rocky jackal
Yes
cursive ruin
Skill issue?
yes
rocky jackal
Fair
queen grail
@charred void I'm back
charred void
where invite
turbid oriole
burnt tree
<@153985058477178881> I'm back <:hm:1090966021986340944>
Hi
burnt tree
Ngl thought phone screenshots would look worse 
wind dagger
cursive ruin
ur both coomers
rocky jackal
True and real
burnt tree
<a:Wave:856670772821884928>
Mobile lost ark fun
burnt tree
ur both coomers
Nuh uh
queen grail
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1c7clzl/i_feel_confident_that_that...
Imagine bitching after a few days.
rigid aurora
thaemine easy
rocky jackal
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1c7clzl/i_feel_confident_that_that...
Can't take this seriously with that typo
charred void
now thaemine g3
cursive ruin
Can't take this seriously with that typo
had to be specific
queen grail
Can't take this seriously with that typo
You don't feel like THAT MINE is such a hard boss?
buoyant wagon
it wont kill the game
midnight marlin
<:WEIRD:929546342307598429> Imagine bitching after a few days.
its not even a couple days 
buoyant wagon
but it will push some people to quit
especially people who are already considering it
wind dagger
Thatmine
cursive ruin
it wont kill the game
only reason this is feasible is because it's necessary for progression
burnt tree
Hopefully Adriel is pushed to quit
rocky jackal
True
cursive ruin
and the fact we got what people called the "baby mode" of kr thaemine and still can't clear g3 gives me a gloomy feel about this
charred void
imagine expecting a new raid to be easier than the previous one, especially for the last commander
cursive ruin
no one said that
burnt tree
Some have tbh
cursive ruin
people were just not expecting it to be so difficult
burnt tree
But everyone said G3 and above would be difficult
charred void
people were overgearing all the content so far
buoyant wagon
it's just low resilience among the average player
cursive ruin
Some have tbh
yeah some people also said that honing system shouldn't have rng but we can only dream
burnt tree
How was it unexpected
buoyant wagon
this is the first mmo for many people
burnt tree
buoyant wagon
or they are used to other games with more forgiving homework/progression
cursive ruin
it's just low resilience among the average player
this and the game basically pushing new players to 1610 is also not helping
buoyant wagon
raiding being the only form of progression is perpetually an issue that comes back to bite the game for the lower denominator of players
midnight marlin
even if this is first mmo, by the time of thaemine people shouldve known difficulty from progging other raids, no?
even if they were easier
cursive ruin
even if this is first mmo, by the time of thaemine people shouldve known difficu...
haha progging
like a lot of people didn't join the game just to basically overgear most the raids
buoyant wagon
only comparable progging in our version was hm brel on release
buoyant wagon
and that made a lot of people quit
cursive ruin
but was brel hm as important to progress as thae?
midnight marlin
it had gear reset
buoyant wagon
the average mmo player simply doesnt have the resilience to spend dozens if not hundreds of hours progging
cursive ruin
it had gear reset
what's that
buoyant wagon
brel ancient gear was only obtainable from hm
unlike how it is obtainable from nm now
if you never stepped foot into hm, you were stuck on brel nm relic gear
cursive ruin
cringemaxxing bruhpilled
buoyant wagon
they have since consolidated valtan relic and brel nm relic into one relic set
and let you get lower ancient from brel nm
nova garden
<@344303345466343425> isn't this what you waited for? hope you're having fun
this is great, i've seen three statics fall apart so far
and one dude altf4
wind dagger
cursive ruin
hope you're enjoying the shitfest for a while
buoyant wagon
people who have never actually done prog in other games or in hell mode here
finding out they dont actually have the resilience to prog
nothing new
tulip charm
this is great, i've seen three statics fall apart so far
My first static that was locked in since 2 weeks ago imploded in the first hour in g1
nova garden
hope you're enjoying the shitfest for a while
then there's even more fun this weekend with the first
tulip charm
We merged with another already, but had to spend a few hours yesterday finding another group
wind dagger
My first static that was locked in since 2 weeks ago imploded in the first hour ...
HAHAHAAHAHA
buoyant wagon
but at the same time, requiring potentially dozens of hours to prog a "normal" mode raid that is required for progression but doesnt even get you all the progression
is not healthy for the average player
wind dagger
Koreans are hardcore
azure valley
My first static that was locked in since 2 weeks ago imploded in the first hour ...
LOL
wind dagger
azure valley
classic
tulip charm
G1 was cleared around 2 hours, but we had to stop at g2 bridge hell
buoyant wagon
Koreans are more willing to put up with such designs
azure valley
how did you boom a static in g1
tulip charm
Resuming later today
buoyant wagon
and have less aversion to just buying a pilot/bus through it
cursive ruin
finding out they dont actually have the resilience to prog
wish i could give you my personal insight on thaemine and my experience but i'm locked behind silver can't even hoone my artillerist
azure valley
we cleared it in like 3 pulls or something
it was faceroll, nobody knew what was going on
stark thicket
they get fucked mentally by sg
Me next
azure valley
and your hp doesnt even move
stark thicket
azure valley
just getting rag dolled left and right
cursive ruin
I don't even understand this concept
tulip charm
we cleared it in like 3 pulls or something
One person trolled i think he went in blind, and when someone coming back from work and we took a 20min break the other 5 just bailed, it was a merge of 3 and 5
buoyant wagon
like everything looks like its going to kill you
someone here earlier said they got kicked from their group in g2
because the leader said "he was getting grabbed too much before 135"
cursive ruin
How does a raid disband a guild? does the realization that most of its members suck and only look good because they overgear raids do t hat to people
buoyant wagon
azure valley
buoyant wagon
like that actually matters
azure valley
g2 is like a normal raid
cursive ruin
genuinely how do raids cause guilds to dismantle
azure valley
maybe even better cause the more mechy wipe stuff is at the beginning
buoyant wagon
the game hasnt bred it into them
they havent played other games that bred it into them
azure valley
so its not slogging through a bunch of shit before learning the mech
buoyant wagon
it's not for everyone
buoyant wagon
the raids in this game are on average on the easier end for people who have resilience and have hands
but are pretty hard for the average plaer who lacks resilience and hands
tulip charm
because the leader said "he was getting grabbed too much before 135"
It’s fine if your grabbed, during lightning storm you can space bar vs minimap to avoid the grab, if your grabbed early before the bridge, it’s free dps oj counter, or if your grabbed at the bottom he can’t throw u off
buoyant wagon
and the problem is, you need to raid to progress in this game
so it cockblocks many average players
cursive ruin
someone plz explain this concept to me
azure valley
How does a raid disband a guild? does the realization that most of its members s...
progging raids is also a slightly different skillset
wind dagger
someone plz explain this concept to me
azure valley
you play differently when progging than you do on hw
buoyant wagon
you need to have the mentality of being okay with wiping for hours at a time
people learning slower than you
cursive ruin
<:PantsGrab:904636452128833548>
explain to me adriel
how do raids cause groups to disband
buoyant wagon
being willing to step back, analyze your gameplay, critique yourself
not bitch out your teammates immediately
and take breaks when needed
tulip charm
how did you boom a static in g1
burnt tree
and take breaks when needed
But in lost ark we don't follow these kinds of logical rules
cursive ruin
adriel stop donowalling me
burnt tree
We blame another!
buoyant wagon
a lot of people expect what is eventually going to be a homework raid to be something they only need a day or two to prog, then have it on farm
tulip charm
At this point we just gotta get through bridge hell with everyone alive right now
azure valley
thats the begininng of the fight
buoyant wagon
when they are getting absolutely destroyed with a clear looking like its behind several dozen hours of prog
they're going to be demoralized and give up
azure valley
aint too bad though, just group up counter, run
buoyant wagon
nor surprisingly, most mmo players are not cut out for actual raid progging
elfin flicker
accidentally left a fate ember in my guardian raid gg
it was probably dogshit anyway
elfin flicker
azure valley
more so, g3/g4 are gonna be hard gated by your weakest player
tulip charm
I told them the dragon from the top lane above can be fakes, the bottom cannot
But someone went in blind
cursive ruin
accidentally left a fate ember in my guardian raid gg
u get it in mail no?
burnt tree
<:COPIUM:875701734771679282>
RIP 100k gold
elfin flicker
do you?
buoyant wagon
also, once you become a working adult doing a 9-5 job
cursive ruin
pretty sure u do, or u get it in ur inventory at least
vagrant cradle
wait you actually meant the running part is what your groups were having trouble with
azure valley
other raids you can drag your weak links through
buoyant wagon
how many people do you think are willing to spend the 3-4 hours at best of gaming time they have after work
cursive ruin
it was dogshit
i want that
burnt tree
Fr
cursive ruin
plz
buoyant wagon
struggling with a raid until they clear it
cursive ruin
please sir may i have some
buoyant wagon
while ignoring other hobbies, family, etc.
vagrant cradle
it was dogshit
silver is all i get from chaos dungeons
would much rather get card exp or small honing packs
cursive ruin
oh speaking of card xp
wind dagger
while ignoring other hobbies, family, etc.
this is why I don't have thaemine nm support yet
I don't have time to prog thaemine rn
even if I clear g2
g3 is...
cursive ruin
u wanna trade my card xp for ur silver?
supple parrot
vagrant cradle
burnt tree
u wanna trade my card xp for ur silver?
3 embers what now
tulip charm
how many people do you think are willing to spend the 3-4 hours at best of gamin...
The problem is some people didn’t prep
buoyant wagon
oh, i forgot about another point
cursive ruin
3 embers what now
yo?
buoyant wagon
raid progging in this game is actively detrimental to your progression at the same time
tulip charm
If you’ve at least watched and rewatched guides prior, you just have to experience it a few times
cursive ruin
@buoyant wagon why do raids cause groups to disband
buoyant wagon
because you are spending time that could have otherwise be used on dailies and gold earning raids
it's a problem that's more or less unique to lost ark
other games have homework that isn't as demanding
buoyant wagon
<@126609513175449600> why do raids cause groups to disband
just read what i've been writing
i've given pretty much all the common reasons
azure valley
raid progging in this game is actively detrimental to your progression at the sa...
i guess kinda, but raid progging is pretty much the only thing this game has going for it
so if you're not playing for raid progging idk why you're playing this game
obtuse oyster
@queen grail we climbing
buoyant wagon
except, most people arent cut out for raid progging
it's why this is a niche mmo at the end of the day
it's way too one dimensional and hyperfocused on a specific segment of players
cursive ruin
just read what i've been writing
it doesn't sound that nuanced, I think it's more people blaming each other, getting angry, saying "Fuck this shit" then bailing
buoyant wagon
which like i said
is low resilience
most people do not have it in them to prog for long hours
fresh flint
om, Stoopz's static is struggling so hard
buoyant wagon
video games are meant to be played for fun
but progging and wiping for hours on end is not fun to many people
fresh flint
did chuan beat g4 already
did he beat g3?
buoyant wagon
so they give up
swift lava
has anyone cleared g3 yet?
devout fractal
me
wind dagger
swift lava
but progging and wiping for hours on end is not fun to many people
true. it's fun when you can actually make progress though lol
tulip charm
but progging and wiping for hours on end is not fun to many people
It’s not fun, but it’s something everybody’s gotta go through, the time spent here varies
wind dagger
azure valley
did chuan beat g4 already
no we haven't started g3 yet
we just cleared g1g2 yesterday and gonna start g3 prog today
wind dagger
azure valley
casual gamers 
cursive ruin
has anyone cleared g3 yet?
me
swift lava
really?
cursive ruin
no
dull obsidian
casual gamers <:EZ:965819818118889552>
g3 is cancer
charred void
g3 clown
swift lava
oh i was about to say congrats lol
buoyant wagon
It’s not fun, but it’s something everybody’s gotta go through, the time spent he...
its more problematic in lost ark because, unless you want to bus or pilot forever, you must raid to progress
queen grail
<@217042711847501827> we climbing
wind dagger
I don't know what Thaemine is and at this point I'm too afraid too ask
empty sleet
its more problematic in lost ark because, unless you want to bus or pilot foreve...
yeh in runescape u dont have to do any of the hard content
devout fractal
g3 is cancer
-Ishy, gets 4 stacks before first sword stagger
charred void
<:FeelsDankMan:1043289206975365150> I don't know what Thaemine is and at this po...
thats some pokemon card
wind dagger
dull obsidian
-Ishy, gets 4 stacks before first sword stagger
I still have died one of the least at the start
swift lava
g3 is cancer
there's no way it stays like this right? xD
cursive ruin
bro having a unique name cuz it's full of special characters is like being beautiful due to cosmetic surgery
empty sleet
in fact in runescape u can go stab bots in wilderness
we cant even kill the bots in lost akr
azure valley
It’s not fun, but it’s something everybody’s gotta go through, the time spent he...
zheng is the outlier who plays lost ark as a gamba simulator
cursive ruin
lol this guy hosted vykas
dull obsidian
there's no way it stays like this right? xD
g3 normal looks
cursive ruin
said "plc only"
dull obsidian
500000x easier
cursive ruin
accepted 2 people without ANY title
dull obsidian
than wtf HM is
cursive ruin
and everyone left
buoyant wagon
to put it into perspective
g3 nm is probably comparable to a middle tier ff14 savage raid
tulip charm
its more problematic in lost ark because, unless you want to bus or pilot foreve...
There is actually a lot of people that just play this game and do lower content raids for quick gold, they are out there
buoyant wagon
in ff14, an average group of savage raiders would probably like like 6-12 hours to prog such a raid
thorn sluice
and everyone left
buoyant wagon
but lost ark is generally a lot more unforgiving with its raids with significantly more restarts
so you can expect prog time to be a bit longer
so lets say, 15 hours to prog g3 nm (that's with the same group btw)
assuming people only have 3 hours a day to play, that's 5 days of progging on average to not even master the raid and just eke out a clear
swift lava
500000x easier
it's still hard af. i know it's new but damn everything like 1 shots my deadeye and he has almost max qual on everything
dull obsidian
there is 1 pattern in HM atm that completely deletes my hp bar from 260,000 -> 0
azure valley
g3 nm is probably comparable to a middle tier ff14 savage raid
i would caveat it with that its a pretty different skillset. in lost ark you're recognizing patterns. in ffxiv you're memorizing
buoyant wagon
repeat the same next week but perhaps minimize the time spent by 1/3, so 10 hours spent reclearing
you probably can see why a lot of people dont want to put up with it, especially if they cant find one group to stick with
azure valley
ffxiv you're not really reacting, you know exactly where you are in the fight based on where you are in your rotation
cursive ruin
<a:yapvisionpro:1206280728988352622>
azure valley
yea
buoyant wagon
although ff14 mechs are significantly more intricate
and the dps check much tighter on average
swift lava
there is 1 pattern in HM atm that completely deletes my hp bar from 260,000 -> 0
210k health i get one shot on nm too
that fucking slice mech omg
aids
azure valley
intricate in that when you see it you're like wtf is this shit. but when you learn it you're just like one step left, one step up, one step right etc
wind dagger
When you are a functioning adult with responsibilities, you lack time to prog...
swift lava
albion...?
there is one mech the sword does
buoyant wagon
i'd say hm is around an upper tier savage raid
dull obsidian
the memory?
swift lava
it's similar to the one akkan does on g1 where the yellow line
buoyant wagon
with the first being around a mid tier ultimate
buoyant wagon
ff14 versions of hard mode
vagrant cradle
oh
buoyant wagon
ultimate is their version of hellmode
tulip charm
Didn’t play ff, no idea what u guys are talking about
thorn sluice
When you are a functioning adult with responsibilities, you lack time to prog...
that's why im not doing thaemine anytime soon
cursive ruin
n#f5
thorn sluice
normal at max, are we forced to do hm like with ivory hm for leg elixirs?
buoyant wagon
you need one clear of hm g3 to unlock the last transcendence stage
and clearing hm g2? to unlock the middle ones
thorn sluice
ah ok
wind dagger
obtuse oyster
<@227613957928648714> e4 bby
om om om
thorn sluice
g3 is the problem
obtuse oyster
the -50lp for going down instead of 75 inbetween tiers is the dumbest thing they added
lime dove
I wana do my fken homework
obtuse oyster
bro <:deadge:1046748734807093330> i spent 2 hours in g3 today
ooof
lime dove
lime dove
my friends are selling a hm g1-3 bus for 350k though
Nice..
urban obsidian
only?
thorn sluice
Thaemine more nerfs when
i'll wait untill they make you unluck everything with themine normal
azure valley
my friends are selling a hm g1-3 bus for 350k though
3 wipes and refund? 
lime dove
Poor stay poor
tulip charm
and we only got to 210 once
It’s that hard huh…
thorn sluice
lime dove
i'll wait untill they make you unluck everything with themine normal
Ill wait until my rmt comes in
urban obsidian
i'll wait untill they make you unluck everything with themine normal
so never...
lime dove
urban obsidian
got it
azure valley
and we only got to 210 once
hm or nm
buoyant wagon
only?
you think people are going to pay more?
for something they can just wait
lol
lime dove
Get myself decked out in full 10s
thorn sluice
so never...
they will, im optimist
cursive ruin
my friends are selling a hm g1-3 bus for 350k though
eu sidereal basically
thorn sluice
my friends are selling a hm g1-3 bus for 350k though
buoyant wagon
3 wipes and refund? <:Clueless:1043239065790717952>
they're already on g4 and not trying that hard to clear it
bold aspen
i have 350k right now,
for me ? thanks man
buoyant wagon
using it for practice until the last minute for the clear
thorn sluice
for me ? thanks man
not for you , noob
buoyant wagon
before entering TF on saturday
thorn sluice
bold aspen
not for you , noob
lime dove
bold aspen
you and adriel dead in g3 akkan normal last phase
no
thorn sluice
<:huh:648907612250701855> no
how no, where you need to do destruction
leader used thirain instead of inanna
and 4 people dead
bold aspen
wintry depot
I hate people that use thirain there
thorn sluice
I hate people that use thirain there
if some1 use corro and 2 use destruction it oneshot
but problem is none used corro or destruction
so we had to dodge attacks
wintry depot
I always have corro
buoyant wagon
just play artist
toss coro
use double tiger
pop starry night, someone thirains
gg
wintry depot
Double tiger ew
queen grail
I hate people that use thirain there
You hate me? 
dawn yacht
wind dagger
wintry depot
You hate me? <:sad_cat:669896604010020905>
If u use thirain, yes
queen grail
If u use thirain, yes
Meanie.
tardy tusk
Isnt thirain the normal?
thorn sluice
Double tiger ew
isn't double tiger good? i always used it
wintry depot
Not really no
tardy tusk
All the guides i watch was thirain sid.
cyan iron
chat what are the best pieces to unlock first in transcendence?
tardy tusk
urban obsidian
double tiger is a waste
tardy tusk
EU its weird anyway 
urban obsidian
it drains your mana for nothing
wintry depot
isn't double tiger good? i always used it
Yes/no
If you dont touch one tiger, it divides your meter in 2
thorn sluice
All the guides i watch was thirain sid.
if supp bring corro yes if not it's better inanna
wintry depot
And yea skill lvl 10 drains more mana than skill lvl 7
tardy tusk
if supp bring corro yes if not it's better inanna
All the guides i watch was thirain sidereal
urban obsidian
if supp bring corro yes if not it's better inanna
ok well what supp isnt bringing corro
wintry depot
I use double tiger only in voldis g3
thorn sluice
ok well what supp isnt bringing corro
idk our supp didn't bring corro, maybe they had sacred bomb
tardy tusk
<:Susge:1065387133990355014>
I did a brel in eu
bro they call positions qs, dn
or wtv
thorn sluice
we had to dodge attacks ( 4 people dead instantly) so thirain isn't always a big deal
wintry depot
idk our supp didn't bring corro, maybe they had sacred bomb
I use corro and scared charm instead of bomb
thorn sluice
imo
tardy tusk
call its time based ffs.
thorn sluice
I use corro and scared charm instead of bomb
i use bomb usually xD
wintry depot
I mean can just innana and corro on it
buoyant wagon
also mana isnt that much of a problem
wintry depot
Safer
dawn yacht
I did a brel in eu
ye but loa players in general are weird why you hating eu
tawny lion
Thaemine is the hero killer chopping the population 1 by 1
tardy tusk
<:Susge:1065387133990355014> ye but loa players in general are weird why you hat...
I dont hate eu
in fact i play a lot in eu with aly
they just so diff compared to naw
dawn yacht
tardy tusk
meteors was a mess
thorn sluice
they just so diff compared to naw
what did you find different
upbeat sundial
guys
thorn sluice
dawn yacht
out of 20 reels 15 are from dubai flooding
tardy tusk
x3+1 or argos
vagrant cradle
wintry depot
Venn diagram = double circle
tardy tusk
Argos or argos+1
upbeat sundial
i got scamedis is there any way to get my gold back?
wintry depot
It was like that in guides
tardy tusk
Venn diagram = double circle
DC.
wintry depot
People were saying venn
tardy tusk
i got scamedis is there any way to get my gold back?
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wintry depot
i got scamedis is there any way to get my gold back?
Scamed in what way?
wintry depot
Nothey say c t
upbeat sundial
Scamed in what way?
pay for kayangle
wintry depot
Cr cl
tardy tusk
Oh
upbeat sundial
and they cant finish it
wintry depot
pay for kayangle
U wont get back your gold
upbeat sundial
and didnt refund
tardy tusk
Ye, nothing much u can do
wintry depot
Your fault for buying a bus
wintry depot
Ags doesnt help on that
wintry depot
Depends some people use left right some people use numbers
vagrant cradle
upbeat sundial
U wont get back your gold
can support check report and maybe ban him?
tardy tusk
Nop
wintry depot
No
upbeat sundial
f me
wintry depot
They will answer like me
upbeat sundial
stupid
wintry depot
Your fault for buying bus
upbeat sundial
i wll remember that
thorn sluice
that's why you should join bus discord channel
tardy tusk
If you got scammed like, all yours gems deleted or idk, items lost, maybe the help.
thorn sluice
join buses only from there
lime dove
Your fault for buying bus
wintry depot
And even there im not sure
thorn sluice
follow their instruction
lime dove
Stop victimizing new players
tardy tusk
Stop victimizing new players
Its the true bro
lime dove
Its just as much fault on the scammer and ags
tardy tusk
go ask to the support
lime dove
lime dove
Or sg
wintry depot
U dont get scammed if you dont buy bus
tardy tusk
^
wintry depot
Its that simple
lime dove
Sometimes buying bus is one of the best options
thorn sluice
if you read a lobby that shares the discord name for example ( @thorn sluice) you go into the discord bus channel and search him
wintry depot
Obv its scammer fault
thorn sluice
you can get scammed anyway but less chance
wintry depot
Still the right answer
wintry depot
You dont get scammed if you dont buy bus