lost-ark-discussions

[vagrant cradle]

6 more hones until 1630

[sand marsh]

you can only get the crit buff from mountain crash if u run 7 points into it

which means ur sacrificing something

[faint grove]

you dont run the crit buff

[supple parrot]

It became less viable after increase rd… before u can make the argument of using mc to fit 2 skill into crit buff. But now u only have 1 extra skill that need crit buff

[burnt tree]

6 more pities

[sand marsh]

then wtf would u run

[supple parrot]

[vagrant cradle]

dont put that evil on me

[sand marsh]

mountain crash is useless without 7 points into it

im confused

[faint grove]

its for counter and stagger..what?

[supple parrot]

Just use chain sword

[faint grove]

cs sucks ass

[supple parrot]

?

So u just don’t buff crit on tempest and ur awakening?

[sand marsh]

if your talking about a raid scenario, not a bus scenario, this is stupid

[supple parrot]

That’s dumb af

[tulip charm]

this discord have alot of zerker players

[sand marsh]

u want that crit buff for tempest

and awakening

so u run chain sword

only needs 4 pts

[faint grove]

lol crit buff for tempest

[midnight marlin]

all bots

[lime dove]

Do all crit or swift based classes use c/j runes

[supple parrot]

Stfu scalp. U never used chain sword before awakening before I told u to

[sand marsh]

cuz i was like cheese and didnt think it mattered

[faint grove]

if you wanna run the crit tripod at lvl 5 you also have to sack one of your dps skills tripods

[sand marsh]

it is what it is

[supple parrot]

Zerker do not

[faint grove]

and you'll never have your counter up because you're using it for crit buffs, and also you lose out on stagger, and cs is a trash counter

[sand marsh]

no you dont?

what are u tawkin about

[midnight marlin]

bard and artist has option to not

most classes have option to not run c/j

[lime dove]

Hmm

[tulip charm]

i was testing some stuff with the cj on gs
but in the end i just went with 2 quick recharge runes instead

[lime dove]

Seems like all the ones i play recommend c/j

Like nights edge predator ps

Coincidently

[midnight marlin]

if you dont want to c/j just slap on a mix of quick recharge and focus

[sand marsh]

cs is a great counter. also sups should be doing counter. not your job

[lime dove]

And like i was gonna make an fi wd later on too

They also use c/j

[tulip charm]

my old control glaveir ran cj

[sand marsh]

There's 0 dps tripod you sacrifice for chain sword crit buff

[supple parrot]

Cs literally just got buffed too

It’s quite fast now

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

Unless you are talking about Red Wave on red dust... or quick prep on tempest slash

[faint grove]

you running lvl 1 crit tripod then?

[sand marsh]

both of which are useless

[lime dove]

I hear Control not doing so well tho

[sand marsh]

no. i run level 5 crit tripod

[lime dove]

[faint grove]

then you're sacking something

[sand marsh]

Which is red wave on red dust or quick prep on tempest

tempest doesnt need quick prep

and red wave is useless

[faint grove]

yeah quick prep on tempest then

[midnight marlin]

control doing ok

[sand marsh]

yea thats useless

[lime dove]

Is control even fun

[faint grove]

then you have even bigger rotation gaps than i do for sure

[tulip charm]

its not, but i still miss playing it
in the patch notes for the future they gave it some weird spacebar cd reduction, it dosn't need it, its still more fun to play than pinnacle

[supple parrot]

U just drop red wave on red dust… which doesn’t affect ur dmg at all

[faint grove]

its not red wave.

[lime dove]

rip pinnacle

[supple parrot]

W.e the last tripod is

Called

[faint grove]

yeah thats not what you sack

[supple parrot]

U keep it at lv1

[faint grove]

you're either sacking quick prep on tempest or quick prep on brave slash

[stark sky]

no

[sand marsh]

You are sacking both. you dont run quick prep on tempest

[lime dove]

Well seems like a lot do then

If not all

[faint grove]

bruh

[stark sky]

a lot do

[lime dove]

I see

[sand marsh]

i think ur using the wrong tripods brudda

[stark sky]

also control is not in a bad spot

its pretty good actually

just high invest class

no one wants to invest

[faint grove]

you gotta have some insane rota issues then

[midnight marlin]

it is?

what invest

[sand marsh]

no. i dont.

[stark sky]

gems

yippee

[midnight marlin]

o

[sand marsh]

by the time i use red dust + 5 skills. then chain sword into tempest - red dust rotation is back up. rinse and repeat

there's no gap

[lime dove]

Its not in bad spot per se but is it necessarily in good spot either

[stark sky]

even in hell content its not too bad

[lime dove]

[stark sky]

i mean

its not a breaker for sure

but most classes aren't

[faint grove]

whatever works for you i guess

[stark sky]

lol

[lime dove]

Is it a slayer or souleater

[sand marsh]

its on the comm guide

[faint grove]

[stark sky]

its like slightly below souleater imo

[lime dove]

Souleater is above breaker

Breaker is slightly below se

[supple parrot]

Running mt crash like that just means u won’t crit ur awakening

[stark sky]

its also slightly below breaker

[lime dove]

[sand marsh]

jus get lucky and crit

[lime dove]

R u saying its above slayer then

[sand marsh]

[lime dove]

I was guessing its around ps sh

[stark sky]

dunno i only play with handless slayers

or giga whale slayers

[lime dove]

[stark sky]

no in between

[lime dove]

Why not handless glaviers then

[stark sky]

they exist

they mostly play pinnacle

[lime dove]

[tulip charm]

wtf auto delete

[supple parrot]

??? Is this a joke. Breaker is 10000% above se. If we talking about dmg

[lime dove]

[faint grove]

we dont know that yet

[lime dove]

Since when

[supple parrot]

Wdym since when

[tulip charm]

really?

[supple parrot]

Breaker is the most busted class

I’ve ever seen

[lime dove]

Its already been nerfed

from kr

[faint grove]

doesnt mean its above se

[supple parrot]

Ya imagine how busted it was pre nerf

[tulip charm]

i need more exposure to good breaker players than

[supple parrot]

Even now it’s still above se

[stark sky]

i think control players are limited by how shit their support is

as well

since they so mana hungry

[lime dove]

[vagrant cradle]

[lime dove]

Control reminds me of ps sh

And thats not a good thing

[supple parrot]

I have not seen se even come close to the ceiling numbers of breaker

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

And se has been out far longer

[lime dove]

Rework control or ps

[stark sky]

i mean u haven't seen a good control player yet then

dk what to tell u

[supple parrot]

What does control have to do with se or breaker

[stark sky]

im not talking to u

[supple parrot]

Ur comparing control glaiv to se and breaker?

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

[vagrant cradle]

I haven't seen a control player in weeks

[stark sky]

yea they're rare commodity

[lime dove]

I dont think ive seen one in a month

[supple parrot]

Control dead class

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

Most glaiv player have alrdy swapped off the class

[vagrant cradle]

[supple parrot]

Since it’s not longer top meta

[lime dove]

Rip

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[supple parrot]

There was a lot of glaiv

2 patches ago

[stark sky]

too many glaive

[supple parrot]

Now u don’t see em any more

[lime dove]

Yea

[stark sky]

now db se breaker

[lime dove]

Unfortunate

[supple parrot]

There was a lot of glaiv during Akkan

But ppl didn’t hone em up

[stark sky]

meta chasers finding their new class

[supple parrot]

To 1620+ 1630+

[lime dove]

I see more scrapper and wardancers than glavier now

Scrapper and wardancer reworks

And glavier getting nerfed with nothing to compensate

[supple parrot]

Db was dying out. And now suddenly way more db

[stark sky]

overbuffed class

[lime dove]

I still see decent amt of slayers too

[supple parrot]

Slayer is just a stronger zerker

Actual bull shit

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

[delicate sandal]

I see se slayers the most

[stark sky]

slayers are all handless or mega whale

no in between

[delicate sandal]

Meta chasing is crazy

[lime dove]

All classes can be handless

[stark sky]

yea but slayers the most

[lime dove]

Thats just cause its popular

[supple parrot]

Slayer is so ez to play

And ppl still fuck it up

Some how

[stark sky]

fr

[supple parrot]

I don’t get it

[lime dove]

Cause back attack

Is just shit

[supple parrot]

U literally don’t even ur monitor on

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

Playing slayer

Face roll

[stark sky]

back attack is not shit when ur slayer

lol

certain class yeah

[lime dove]

[stark sky]

slayer has so much range and mobility it dont even feel hard

[lime dove]

Its still pretty shit

[supple parrot]

Slayer is so fast. And ur skills are long ass range

[lime dove]

Doesnt matter when the boss turns 3 times in a row

And keeps aggro on you

[supple parrot]

I can hit some kid in China with brutal strike from here

[midnight marlin]

is

guma

[lime dove]

When u r tryna go behind and all

[midnight marlin]

running it

[lime dove]

[sand marsh]

ay yo wtf

[stark sky]

i like htis

[lime dove]

Plus slayer has a weakness

[stark sky]

yeah the player

[lime dove]

During DR and phasing

[stark sky]

lmao

[lime dove]

The meter just gets fked

[sand marsh]

u can use mountian crash during DR

to keep up stacks

[supple parrot]

Exhaust is like 6 second down time

[tulip charm]

back problems?

[supple parrot]

Who the fuck cares

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

[supple parrot]

Most of the time it’s back up alrdy

When dr is over

Or w.e mech

[sand marsh]

like in brel g3, if the cube is phasing, i use mountain crash to keep up the stacks

[lime dove]

Im just saying thats why shes not as easy to play cause those and she gotta back attack

[tulip charm]

exaust is complete ass in g1 akkan and g3 kaya

[lime dove]

Even if im not saying its hard

[stark sky]

back attack is not hard

lol

where do u even get that idea

[lime dove]

The concept

When bosses turn all fight

[supple parrot]

It is easy to play tho. The only classes I can think of that are easier does much less dmg

[delicate sandal]

back atk is just annoying

[uneven mortar]

bro this game so ez

[stark sky]

bosses dont turn all fight tho

??

[uneven mortar]

me and chuan 25 wep full 10 gems 100% f2p

[lime dove]

They do

[vagrant cradle]

[sand marsh]

you have spacebar + 2 charges of a mobility skill

[stark sky]

lol

[sand marsh]

its not that bad

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

Dude on slayer it literally doesn’t matter

If boss turn

Ur so fast

[lime dove]

Its also not as easy as most ppl say

[supple parrot]

With movement skill

[stark sky]

it is as easy as most people say

[supple parrot]

And all ur skill are fast af

[lime dove]

Im not saying its hard

[stark sky]

how many back attack do u play

im curious

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

It literally is tho. It’s not like I don’t have a slayer

[lime dove]

Only slayer

Atm

Was gonna make a scrapper

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-ark-gif-26462158

[lime dove]

But not yet

[lime dove]

[vagrant cradle]

[supple parrot]

I mean u go play some entropy class like deadeye then go back to slayer

And then tell me slayer is not ez

[sand marsh]

then why did u make a deadeye

stupid as hell

[faint grove]

but hitting back where its safe 99% of the time is so hard

[tulip charm]

because its op and no one knows its op

[lime dove]

It is compared to harder entropy

[supple parrot]

Cuz it’s fun?

[lime dove]

But in essence of itself

For just being a backattacker

[sand marsh]

slayer fun too

it would be my main if i could do that

[stark sky]

bro

[supple parrot]

I alrdy have a slayer

[lime dove]

Is not hard

[supple parrot]

On naw

[stark sky]

my hit masters are on the back all the time

[supple parrot]

Why would I make one on nae

[stark sky]

wym back attack is hard

[lime dove]

But not saying it like so easy

[stark sky]

everyone always sniffing ass

[supple parrot]

The point of making a roster on nae is to try classes I don’t alrdy have

[stark sky]

even if they not back attackers

doesnt matter

[sand marsh]

makes sense on why u die all the time on ur deadeye

[stark sky]

im always 90% ba uptime

[sand marsh]

ur not used to low EHP, only sorc

[supple parrot]

Cept I don’t

I only die when u troll

Cuz u don’t know mech

[sand marsh]

i do know mech

[supple parrot]

The sup was literally trolling me

The entire time

He purposely come to the back

[lime dove]

Its true but the diff is classes when theyre off to the side of in the general direction they dont lose dmg if theyre not a back attacker

[sand marsh]

jus cuz u die and everyone else doesnt - doesnt mean troll

[supple parrot]

And take my orb

[stark sky]

u dont lose damage either if u played smarter

more patient

[lime dove]

[stark sky]

but slayers arent smart

[supple parrot]

I died twice. The bard died like 5 times and ss like 20

[stark sky]

like i said

handless

[tulip charm]

[supple parrot]

The fuck u talking about

[sand marsh]

im talking about some runs where u die in g2 voldis, no one else does then we gotta restart

[burnt tree]

[dull obsidian]

Slayer is actually the hardest class in the game

[supple parrot]

Yes. Twice

[sand marsh]

or u die, then someone else does right after

[tulip charm]

its hard for entropy to react to the tail slam sometimes

[supple parrot]

Cuz u trolled me

[dull obsidian]

Its tanky, fast to deal dps, mobile as fuck, high stagger, high destro

[burnt tree]

I thought Chuan was the Raid God. Wym he died TWICE

[sand marsh]

then why did i live

[dull obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

it's never chuan's fault

[tulip charm]

even if you dodge the initial tail, sometimes the shockwave hits u still

[buoyant wagon]

it's always everyone else's fault

[supple parrot]

U literally died multiple times

U moron

[sand marsh]

thats not true

[supple parrot]

Pull up vod wdym not true

[faint grove]

just eat enough blood orbs that you dont get 1-shot, its not hard

[supple parrot]

U literally died in g4 like 3 times

[sand marsh]

[lime dove]

We all know

[vagrant cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147690470185648198.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[supple parrot]

U weee also died in g3

[lime dove]

The most op is aeromancer

[dull obsidian]

just play RE blade

and don't take any blood

[sand marsh]

what is this misinfo

[dull obsidian]

because it doesn't benefit you

[vagrant cradle]

aero is fun

[urban obsidian]

Me when asura

[vagrant cradle]

[faint grove]

aero mid af

[burnt tree]

[vagrant cradle]

yeah but she's very fun

[urban obsidian]

?

[vagrant cradle]

[burnt tree]

What adults

[urban obsidian]

It does nothing for it lol

Asura bro

[faint grove]

yup aero is fun

[burnt tree]

Sussy

[urban obsidian]

I literally edited it

[burnt tree]

Yrs

Yes** ong can't type

[dull obsidian]

wait

[gleaming pendant]

asura scans?!

[dull obsidian]

poppy interaction

is so stupid

LOL

[gleaming pendant]

brawl king scans?!

[supple parrot]

Ppl are so fucking stupid.Thr front is literally the safe spot. Why when I’m the only back attack. Ppl come take both back orbs while I’m using shot gun skill

[dull obsidian]

dude

[tulip charm]

this class is fun to play now ever since the rework

[dull obsidian]

poppy stops the herald safe dash

LOL

[urban obsidian]

@dull obsidian fund me a brawl king build for g2 IT next week

[tulip charm]

decent now too

[dull obsidian]

thats hilarious

[tulip charm]

and it didn't get nerfed like surge

[dull obsidian]

brawl king doesn't benefit from the buff much either you know

lmao

[urban obsidian]

Yeh ik

[dull obsidian]

you're gauge locked

[burnt tree]

I caught up to Lookism again, somehow they added new power ups

[urban obsidian]

But it benefits from it slightly

Unlike asura that doesn’t whatsoever

[dull obsidian]

?

just awaken every 50s

[supple parrot]

U prob does. Cuz ur bottle necked by that fist cd thing

[urban obsidian]

?

I did

[dull obsidian]

and then punchy

[burnt tree]

The THRESHOLDS

[urban obsidian]

That’s all it gives tho

Ur already no cd on skills

[dull obsidian]

yeh atleast it recharges your identity that deals beeg dps

[supple parrot]

The asura class prob don’t benefit much from it

[dull obsidian]

I literally get 0 bonus from it

[urban obsidian]

I do too

[dull obsidian]

?

you get to awaken -> identity

[urban obsidian]

That’s

Like 1 more identity

[supple parrot]

[urban obsidian]

Then I would without it

[dull obsidian]

my awakening deals less fucking damage than my skills and it repositions me to narnia

[urban obsidian]

Bc of how fast we phased

Lol

[supple parrot]

I mean igniter is king of g2

[urban obsidian]

I awakened twice

Bc we insta got to x90

[dull obsidian]

punisher slayer is crazy too

[urban obsidian]

Then we insta got to next mech

[dull obsidian]

you get to bloodlust like 4 times or something

and you go to instant brutal

[supple parrot]

I tend to deny punisher now

Cuz they are brain dead

[dull obsidian]

I mean ye most suck

[tulip charm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1bxr84y/about2expose/ damn, how dare people make a thread about supp players...

[dull obsidian]

lmao

but when executed in g2

holy its coomer level dmg

[tulip charm]

no more support for them now i guess

[supple parrot]

I took a 1630 one for frog and dude legit did 12 mil dps

[dull obsidian]

they just blood lust -> brutal - > guillotine -> blood lust

and deal 60m dps per second

60m is crazy

then they atro the last phase

and awakening deal 1b

https://tenor.com/view/kokona-blue-archive-gif-8003407572974740294

[lime dove]

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

good punishers in g2 are insanely strong

g1 and g4 are both kinda saddies

g3 is pumping

[supple parrot]

Idiots playing 1 rota punisher when they are shit at the game and doing like 1 rotation per minute

[dull obsidian]

[uneven mortar]

[urban obsidian]

1.0 isn’t even the stronger build

Being good or bad doesn’t matter

[gleaming pendant]

james too chad

[urban obsidian]

Even after the rebuffs to bloodlust dmg

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

yo

mizu

azir has nashors

[urban obsidian]

Well yeh

He’s HoB azir

Obv this game he builds it

[lime dove]

Isnt that old azir

[dull obsidian]

depends on matchup

HOB / Fleet / Grasp are all viable

[urban obsidian]

Azir has like 10 rune pages

He can run

[lime dove]

[dull obsidian]

I will fuck you

[stark thicket]

I wanna play old sion

[urban obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-koyuki-bluesechi-gif-14075364765940116066

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-koyuki-bluesechi-gif-14075364765940116066

[rigid aurora]

bro i just saw the most mentally ill tweet of all time

[urban obsidian]

Was it this

[rigid aurora]

no man

[burnt tree]

Can't believe king of Cheonliang lost by being done so dirty

[urban obsidian]

Apparently Japanese udon is too cheap

[rigid aurora]

i was genuinely baffled and logged off the app

[rigid aurora]

after seeing it

[supple parrot]

I mean why play punisher when u can just play predator, use event gem and full green qual accessory and still pop off

Makes no sense

[stark thicket]

Show it

[dull obsidian]

masochist moment

[tulip charm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/1bw2xuu/remember_when_people_said_they_got_rich_gambling/ some people have dev clients i swear

[supple parrot]

Full green qual punisher u can’t even get gauge

Waste gold on high qual spec shit

[rigid aurora]

it nsfw

[supple parrot]

[rigid aurora]

so dm

[supple parrot]

Here is a math question for u. How many lv10 gamble u gotta win in a row to get the gold equivalent of 3 siderals?

[dull obsidian]

put it in my discord

[rigid aurora]

ok

[tulip charm]

[dull obsidian]

if including sale tax like 55-56

[tulip charm]

i don't even have the lv10 gem fusion achievement

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

sidereals are 1.8m NAW?

[supple parrot]

Ya

[dull obsidian]

ye

somewhere around 55-56

[supple parrot]

And Zheng is calling other ppl Dev client

[dull obsidian]

each win is 120k~ before tax

[stark thicket]

I'm going over here waiting And you post it somewhere else

[rigid aurora]

oh i forgot

[tulip charm]

its a good week regardless, i got like 40k in loot, last 2 weeks got nothing, but the best thing, my weapon hit 24 at 28%

[stark thicket]

[tulip charm]

[buoyant wagon]

im surprised that thread isnt deleted yet

any meter related memes inevitably get deleted

[stark thicket]

how you easily forget about me, the one and only Chuankoko

[dull obsidian]

LMAO

wtf

dude

idk

why the fuck does TF roll 2 dice on his passive now

is this company stupid?

[supple parrot]

The sad thing is when ppl with lv10 gems doing that up time on sup

[dull obsidian]

2-12 bonus gold per minion kill??

[supple parrot]

[lime dove]

That was cancer

[dull obsidian]

my guy is farming up to 50% faster than everyone else in the game

LMAO

100 cs = 125 cs

[lime dove]

Ap sion running up to you and point and click half ur hp with stun

Then the shield blows you up

[supple parrot]

How is that 50% fast that’s 25%

[dull obsidian]

up to 50%

its 2-12 bonus gold

[gleaming pendant]

he lost his toes and fingers

[dull obsidian]

mages give 17 gold and melees 21-22

[supple parrot]

[burnt tree]

But hey he didn't die

[dull obsidian]

and he rolls a dice that gives him 1-6 extra gold per minion kill

[supple parrot]

So it’s like alchemist equivalent

[burnt tree]

I thought he was dead ngl

[lime dove]

To be fair old sion would suck vs the current league

[dull obsidian]

x2

[lime dove]

Items and overloaded champ kits

[dull obsidian]

old league had so many target click stuns

[gleaming pendant]

t1 about to 3-0 dk

[dull obsidian]

ye lmao

[urban obsidian]

I give up

[dull obsidian]

3-0 by HLE
now they 3-0 DK

[urban obsidian]

Fire Kellin

[dull obsidian]

LMAO

[supple parrot]

It’s like alch from dota2. Dude gets bonus gold from kills but it’s weak in lane, the starting stat sucks and low armor

[urban obsidian]

Fire kingen

[supple parrot]

[urban obsidian]

???

[dull obsidian]

oh

its strong in lane too

[urban obsidian]

Kingen Kellin both dogshit inters

Aiming was giga dogshit too

[supple parrot]

[gleaming pendant]

they got the practice in after not being ddosed

[dull obsidian]

His W is a target click stun that lasts 1.5-2.75 seconds depending on skill rank

[lime dove]

The sion taric duo lane

True terror

[dull obsidian]

so hes strong in early fights

[urban obsidian]

Nah, the geng curse just hit them with hle

Since hle is 40% geng

[dull obsidian]

his E gives him infinite early damage by being an onhit effect that pretty much doubles your damage every 4th auto attack

that also has an attack speed increase as a passive on it

his W also just an AUTO RESET

[lime dove]

[dull obsidian]

not to mention his ult is a global tp at lvl 16 that REVEALS all enemy locations (can be blocked by spellshields) and lets him tp wherever he wants

[keen copper]

t1

[gleaming pendant]

ez fucking 3-0

[urban obsidian]

Well no shit

It’s dk?

Dk is shit

[midnight marlin]

day you dont use qwuilibrium right

[gleaming pendant]

shoemaker

[keen copper]

correct

[dull obsidian]

like bro kalista built edge of night

[lime dove]

TF rework op

Killed his ad build tho

[dull obsidian]

does nothing

[lime dove]

[dull obsidian]

his AD build is his stronger build atm

AP takes too long to ramp up

[lime dove]

They nerfed it pretty hard tho

[dull obsidian]

AP has insane carry potential late

but game is pretty much decided within the first 15 mins atm

[lime dove]

His stacked deck got ad ratio down almost completely

[midnight marlin]

tf also just passively gets more gold

[gleaming pendant]

sat nexxt week they gonna lose to hle 3-0 again @urban obsidian

[dull obsidian]

nah

Faker's hands are no longer cold

[gleaming pendant]

[urban obsidian]

They either get 3-0ed by hle or by geng

[dull obsidian]

T1 3-0

[tulip charm]

i am bored

[urban obsidian]

We shall see if t1 can overcome the geng curse (hle version) or not

[prime wind]

tf is closer to furion than alchemist anyway

[burnt tree]

T1 busy getting ddosd now

[buoyant wagon]

arc warden

[gleaming pendant]

SHEESH

36.5K

[dull obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kVKtIoKeWEo

[prime wind]

nah arc warden is way too late compared to the first gen of lol champs

[urban obsidian]

Wdf

@dull obsidian this piano channel is goated asf

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

[tulip charm]

[buoyant wagon]

arc warden is still more advanced than current lol champs

[supple parrot]

league shit game for noobs

[dull obsidian]

league just has a way bigger player/viewer base

riot went crazy

[buoyant wagon]

league took off at a time where dota was on an ancient engine

[dull obsidian]

warcraft III

[prime wind]

blame hon greed not giving ice full creative control

[buoyant wagon]

wc3 engine was truly a work of art

[urban obsidian]

League off at a time where dota was owned by valve

[buoyant wagon]

the amount of custom games made on it

[urban obsidian]

Oh wait it still is

[dull obsidian]

ye

custom games were so fun

[burnt tree]

You ain't winning

[dull obsidian]

I kinda want to go back

[buoyant wagon]

league took off when dota wasnt owned by anyone

the only "modern" competitor was HoN

[dull obsidian]

I really want to play Legion TD now

[tulip charm]

ofc, but...how much do u think the title will be sold for?

[dull obsidian]

[tulip charm]

and top 10 for NA how many will be legit

[burnt tree]

Probably 500k - 1mil+ depends ig

[supple parrot]

Np is fun. I used to go Dagon 5 every game on my smurf and grief divine shitters

[prime wind]

ice was initially involved in hon but backed out because he wouldnt be in charge of it

[buoyant wagon]

easily more than 1m for the first batch of pilots

[prime wind]

so hon kinda swung off as its own thing

[burnt tree]

Yeah

Think early and last weeks will be expensive

[prime wind]

else it could have been bigger. but then again its hard to say, the timing of lol was just too good

[buoyant wagon]

if you can find a static to reliably pilot/bus the first

[supple parrot]

I played hon during the original closed beta. Shit was lame. Dota better

[buoyant wagon]

$$$$$$

[prime wind]

wc3 custom was better than dota 2 for a while

[buoyant wagon]

early dota 2 was...... not great

[buoyant wagon]

nobody

you really think there's a team out there that has all 8 players clean lol

[urban obsidian]

Nah there might be

1

[buoyant wagon]

doesnt rmt, doesnt use meter

[tulip charm]

there might be 1, or 2, out of 10

[buoyant wagon]

and how does someone recruiting for a team know that the people are clean

[steel minnow]

i think they are just going to ban if u use meter during the first?

[prime wind]

just a unit gap really, blizzard really did a great job with wc3

[buoyant wagon]

lol they arent banning shit

[urban obsidian]

You guys rly think they’ll check accounts?

LOL

[buoyant wagon]

no other region has banned rmt accounts for doing the first

meter use is way too widespread for them to ban in our version

[tulip charm]

youd think no with their prior history with the no kingdom ruled by fear bs, but they DID CHECK RU apparently, i think they only checked after g4 clear

[buoyant wagon]

piloting they might check but i doubt they will check beyond IP

[urban obsidian]

There also no viable way to check piloting

[buoyant wagon]

meaning vpn just solves that issue

[urban obsidian]

Bc nothing is linked to ssn

[supple parrot]

If only I could clone my self 8 times

[buoyant wagon]

mac addresses

but i highly doubt they will do that

[urban obsidian]

Funny you think they’ll look into that

[prime wind]

would one of them know math

[urban obsidian]

Nothing is gonna happen

[supple parrot]

All mathematical gods that would put newton to shame

[urban obsidian]

Most that’ll happen is maybe for once they’ll actually take a sinkovsky record off the leaderboard

[tulip charm]

you never know with these things, common sense is no, but maybe there are groups out there so hardcore they screened people exactly for this before they proceed for the clear

[buoyant wagon]

pretty much every team that has a realistic shot of being top 10 has at least one or multiple players who rmt/will use meter during the run

[prime wind]

and how would u decide who doesnt get to play if there are 9 of u with equal brains

[urban obsidian]

You forgot smth else

[buoyant wagon]

how the fuck are you going to screen for rmt

[urban obsidian]

Also a couple kr/ru players

[buoyant wagon]

ask people to provide their full bank history and steam transactions?

aint no group doing that

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

i have no idea

[buoyant wagon]

they probably are involved in rmt also on account of bussing/piloting lol

[tulip charm]

i can only speak for myself i stay away from all that sht

[supple parrot]

Yes. Show bank statement for the past 2 years

[tulip charm]

idc what the advantage or disadvantages

[buoyant wagon]

if you try to recruit for a static and ask for their bank history and steam transactions

[tidal sleet]

Also give 10 references

[buoyant wagon]

you will most likely be told to fuck off

[supple parrot]

Hey. Then they aren’t serious enuf for the title

[urban obsidian]

Anyone serious enough for the title will be rmters

[prime wind]

send 3 answers to personal questions and social identity too

[urban obsidian]

So correct

[buoyant wagon]

anyone serious is some combination of rmting, kr/ru vet, bought account to practice on kr/ru, or piloting

[prime wind]

mizu did u sleep yet

[urban obsidian]

No f2p groups will have a serious shot at doing it

[tulip charm]

but i do wonder, if anyone in the hardcore statics have enough ethics, to do something like, "guys i am not clean" leave me out of the race to the top 10

[urban obsidian]

I took a nap on accident from 11am to 8pm yesterday

I’m bouta try and pass out again tho

[tulip charm]

or they just say nothing and soldier on, get the clear, and get the entire static disqualified

[prime wind]

idk if that is a nap

[tulip charm]

prob the later

[supple parrot]

If I could have 8 of me it would be possible. But too bad there is only 1 f2p god

[buoyant wagon]

the hardcore statics all know they arent clean

why would they have "ethics"

[urban obsidian]

Any static that has a chance at getting it is nowhere near f2p

It’s that simple

[tulip charm]

[buoyant wagon]

you think a group of 1650s with esther 8s is going to go "gee, i guess i dont want to sabotage the run for everyone else"

KR didnt give a shit if you rmted in the race

RU didnt give a shit if you rmted or piloted in the race

CN doesnt give a shit if you rmted or piloted their raid leaderboards

[tulip charm]

i think they only cared about the pilots in the end

[supple parrot]

That’s not a nap.. that just called going to bed at weird time like a degenerate

[buoyant wagon]

you really think NA, the home of "no kingdom ruled through fear" is going to do anything?

[tulip charm]

and thats because someone ratted on them i think, i am not 100% sure on this

[prime wind]

chuan always sounds like an angry old man probably didnt take his nap

[supple parrot]

Shut up boomer

[buoyant wagon]

they care about pilots in KR because

[tulip charm]

99% prob isn't gonna do anything, but in the back of my mind there is that 1% thinking they might grow a backbone and do something, copium, feels like that ship has long since sailed

[buoyant wagon]

1. it's a dev sanctioned race but also importantly 2. piloting and account sharing/sales veer into identity theft territory

[supple parrot]

Who cares. No one here is doing the race

[burnt tree]

In the West? Hell no. On Korea only cause SG will put the effort to track them.

[tulip charm]

you know whos gonna win the race in the top 10? BAKER

i want him up there

for shts and giggles

[buoyant wagon]

sinkovsky

[prime wind]

zheng's top 4 streamers: baker legalia kamina scalp

[burnt tree]

Sinkovsky already said he will speed hack the race and he will not get banned anyway

[tulip charm]

someone coach baker on the raid so he can top 10

i want this to happen

[burnt tree]

[faint grove]

whats a baker

[burnt tree]

He makes bread

[buoyant wagon]

baker's pilot is going to get caught saying the n word on stream again

[steel minnow]

i just dont like that ppl aallready did the raid in kr and ru

so now top 10 is a joke

some ppl allready played there

[supple parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/merci-swedish-chef-baker-making-bread-gif-16653508

[faint grove]

ofc its a joke

[burnt tree]

Top 10 is always going to be a joke unless the race releases simultaneously

[buoyant wagon]

top 10 is a joke for a combination of reasons anyways

raid releasing elsewhere already

having a very high entry requirement

[faint grove]

koreans could just come to west and 1-tap it if they wanted to

nice race.

[tulip charm]

it shoudn't be though, maybe once upon a time this could have been a legit race to top 10

[buoyant wagon]

cheats and rmt and piloting being rampant

[tulip charm]

i think i am coping too hard right now

[buoyant wagon]

yes you are

[prime wind]

yep

[burnt tree]

No it wouldn't.
Our Top 10 will be RU/KR vets or people who bought accounts to practice.

[uneven mortar]

when a team have 8 esther 8 the race itself is a joke

[burnt tree]

That wouldn't change if things were done differently(unless the raid was global)

[supple parrot]

I mean realistically, to have a shot at top 10 u would need to have an acc on ru or kr to practice

[urban obsidian]

I mean not rly

[buoyant wagon]

ironically in RU

their first clear wasnt by a whale team

[prime wind]

nah it was designed that way

[urban obsidian]

The only thing Esther’s changed was the couple mechs in g3/4

[buoyant wagon]

their first clear was by a roughly min ilvl team of all Russians

[prime wind]

biggest streamers and pros all trying to tackle it

[buoyant wagon]

the Chinese whales were behind by a lot

[supple parrot]

Chinese whales don’t have time to prog

[buoyant wagon]

they're only like on their 6th? clear

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

Someone fund me like 8m gold

[burnt tree]

No

[wind dagger]

You have many level 10 gems why u yapping

[dull obsidian]

I only have 13 lvl 10's

[wind dagger]

Gimme 3 level 10 cd gems

[supple parrot]

U only play 1 char

[burnt tree]

Only sure

[supple parrot]

Why u need 13 gems

[urban obsidian]

What?

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

also even if they did investigate participants for rmt

[urban obsidian]

Since when does ishy play 1 char

[wind dagger]

How much costs level 10 cd gems in EU

@burnt tree can you check

[buoyant wagon]

i guarantee it's just a cursory check of if you bought botted gold recently

[dull obsidian]

where do I only play 1 char

[burnt tree]

Bro i have no PC

[supple parrot]

Aren’t ur other chars low ilvl

[burnt tree]

And GeForce has queue

[supple parrot]

I don’t count those as real chars

[prime wind]

LOL

[dull obsidian]

1610 fake char

rip

[supple parrot]

1610 = lopang

[prime wind]

i think u have more 9/7s than him too

[supple parrot]

1620+ = real chars

[uneven mortar]

[urban obsidian]

True

I don’t play lost ark

[burnt tree]

Chuan moment

[wind dagger]

190k gold?

How much money is ~600k gold?

[supple parrot]

Ppl be hating but im spitting facts

[wind dagger]

[urban obsidian]

I mean

[urban obsidian]

You aren’t?

[buoyant wagon]

[prime wind]

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

ah yes, ratting out people who have cleared in other regions

[supple parrot]

What if all the dumb whales get banned and I, the last f2p ends up getting one of the top 10 clears?

[tulip charm]

who are these people?

[vagrant cradle]

[buoyant wagon]

smoothbrainers on official discord

[urban obsidian]

So Zheng

[supple parrot]

Zheng u gonna let this league player talk to u like that?

[steel minnow]

150 euro

no wait a bit more

[wind dagger]

[steel minnow]

175

[urban obsidian]

A lot more wtf

[steel minnow]

no

[supple parrot]

[urban obsidian]

Since when is euc that cheap

[vagrant cradle]

[urban obsidian]

That’s basically na prices

[steel minnow]

skins are like 350k per 100 euro

fck u mean?

[urban obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

can get this sent on for you

[vagrant cradle]

[sand marsh]

thats the response from any mod in that discord

[urban obsidian]

Sent to the abyss

[sand marsh]

its a pure echo chamber

[urban obsidian]

Where it deserves to go

[sand marsh]

an illusion

thats all it is

[wind dagger]

So I sell €175 worth of skins

Sell

And get myself three level 10 cd gems

[sand marsh]

[buoyant wagon]

so, like your hair?

[sand marsh]

[wind dagger]

Can u fund me

[supple parrot]

Isn’t euc mats also cheap af?

Sidereal only 400k

[steel minnow]

44 leaps

sidereal like 450k

[supple parrot]

[wind dagger]

I need one million gold to be fund

[sand marsh]

2 more level 8s

if i get dmg

[tulip charm]

idk, i won't be a part of the race, but there is merit in doing the race clean and rewarding enough if people have that type of mentality.

[sand marsh]

i coom

[wind dagger]

[tulip charm]

but at this point it feels like the entire race is just a farce, everyone i just waiting for the drama after the race it feels like

[buoyant wagon]

you have no way to audit whether the other 7 players on your team are clean

you can't tell who is using meter

or who is buying gold

[sand marsh]

jus look at the accessories they have sold. or better yet, just ban everyone who does the race

cuz its all rmt losers

[wind dagger]

Uhm

I'm sure there are legit whales

[tulip charm]

how do u magically know this? there is a difference then just detecting it, AND choosing to do anything about it, they can blow all the hot air they want in those guidelines, but until something is done about it, no one is gonna give a sht, thats why i said this race is a farce, but once upon a time it didn't have to be

[wind dagger]

But I doubt legit whales are skilled enough

[sand marsh]

rmting on the side is not a legit whale

[supple parrot]

Aren’t u done with gems?

[sand marsh]

no

[buoyant wagon]

refer to what i said earlier

[sand marsh]

i have 2 more chars to do

[supple parrot]

Ur going full 10s on every char?

[sand marsh]

yes

[buoyant wagon]

any person recruiting for a team asking for full bank info, steam history, auction house and mail history

[wind dagger]

[buoyant wagon]

and streaming your screen during prog to prove you arent using meter

is going to get told to go pound sand

[supple parrot]

Why? What excuse will u have when u get shit on by event gem chars then

[sand marsh]

i yap too much

so i dont pay attention

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

it's more like they aren't going to all coincidentally be in the same team

and there's no way for them to know whether the other players secretly rmt on the side

[rancid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-sob-cry-tears-sad-gif-24749164

[buoyant wagon]

which at this point, i'd wager at least 1/3 of the 1630+ population does

[wind dagger]

Maybe I should RMT myself 1650

[supple parrot]

1630 is literally free tho

[wind dagger]

[rancid blade]

If you don’t rmt you are stupid

[supple parrot]

[rancid blade]

-saintone

[wind dagger]

[tulip charm]

i would say at least half, its kinda sad

[prime wind]

very hard to find 8 good whales fully decked out anyway

[wind dagger]

Saintone probably talking about KR

[supple parrot]

It’s been hard finding sup. Our req is just 80+ ap buff

[buoyant wagon]

oh, there's plenty of good whales out there

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

you just dont see them that often because they only play with each other and not pug

[prime wind]

yeah and they're probably not gonna take a week vacation for this

[tulip charm]

i thought u said rosey got u guys covered

[buoyant wagon]

actually, yeah they will

[supple parrot]

Huh? No. He is like 2 mil shard short cuz he doesn’t do dailies

[buoyant wagon]

some dont need to work

[tulip charm]

better to lock one in after this reset, even if they don't meet 80ap or something

[buoyant wagon]

others are in cushy enough jobs where they can take a vacation if they are a committed group

[supple parrot]

We locked in 2. But one of em just dm me today that they can’t make 1630

[prime wind]

we'll see, im curious to see any non hell group in the top 10 that would be cool

[supple parrot]

So we now need another one

[buoyant wagon]

or they're just rich international students

who can just skip class

[wind dagger]

Fuck em

[tulip charm]

our group locked in last week, but its like a combine of 2 smaller groups and 1 or 2 stragglers

will see how this goes

but at the very least will clear g3, just don't know when

[magic shard]

idk how they fucked up this badly but after the euc maintenance last week to fix daylight savings, they moved the daily reset one hour forward but kept the content as it was. this means that at 11:00 server time, the next day's adventure islands spawn but you can't claim them yet because it still counts as yesterday's attempt

lol I accidentally sent this to lost ark help

[neon cedar]

Daily reset didn't move. Your clock did

[buoyant wagon]

not sure if he ever said that

[supple parrot]

Did u play with them with meter on to see their numbers?

[buoyant wagon]

but he has been on the record saying if he didn't stream, he'd rmt

because he streams though, it sets a bad example (even though plenty of other Korean streamers do it)

[rancid blade]

Zeals smile

[tulip charm]

don't have meter, ive only played with half of them, idk the other half

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

if anything zeals earned the right to rmt his latest esther

after legit swiping his previous 2

which is better than the vast majority of esther 8 owners

[prime wind]

dw they were crowdfunded by doworkhk and doworksg

[wind dagger]

Zeals gets hundreds of k income a year