#lost-ark-discussions
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well nevermind
what?
on youtube
google translate is bad
YOUR MATH ON BRELL IS OFF
Class balance only looks extremely bad when you forget they don’t balance around ceilings
how?
And only really around averages
And floors to a lesser extent
Raid gold is so smoge
"Mage balance patch"
forgot about bards
Fuck smg
New classes predictably get favorable treatment due to sales
10.5 is full g1-g4
but g4 once per two weeks
so it should be 9k
our data differ aka we are shit 
50k akkan 60k ivory 63+45 / 2 brel
50k +60k + 54 = 160ish
not really, our focus is just different, the gaming culture is not exactly the same after all
Is mayhem zerk still one of the best dps for raids?
why is this game so ez
mayhem is stable
maybe at 900 ilvl kekw.
Having good loadouts + hands is the best for raids
also mayhem is best with 1*3
trash leg ngl.
i remember leveling
that's what i said and its on that list , u dumb?
People in KR are completely okay with whales and shame rice farmer while we shame whale and are okay with people who grind in EU.
There are too many stuff that make it obvious the data would differ from east to west.
their statement was just them yappin since it was obvious.
got it for free 
They don’t shame rice farmers in KR
Otherwise their game would be dead
They run on rice farmers
we just garbage
Are you asian? 
why?
Any recommendation for Soul Reaper? I checked the guide but wanted to confirm maybe someone has a better idea or something unpopular that might be good.
By shaming, I mean, if you go against a whale, they're just straight gonna tell you to grind your ass off or pay money.
Like it's normal over there and if you're not happy you get shamed on.
This is what I meant. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Dog rmt prices are so funked

Which one u playing.
?reape
Edge or full moon.
Soul Reaper
Concept of fair play is more important to people in the west if that’s what you mean
The value for gems are dogshit
XDDDDD Eater sorry
Ah

People prefer their games to be a reward of time investment and skill rather than money
@lusty blade
And are more likely to vent when money gets in the picture
Pick hallucination
Yeah what I see as shaming is not shaming at all for them I guess, just different culture.

Okay, so nightmare no
No
Thanks, bro
Over there it’s a lot more accepted of game design to let you exchange money for time
You can change free of charge @lusty blade
No if him is new to the game.
same here
people bitch but swipe
I also think it’s partially related to how people there are more resigned about income inequality
need to get 40 vykas/valtan parts.
its 1 quest
nothing else.
And have resigned themselves to accepting that the rich will win wherever they go
Whereas in the west, people are much more allergic to income inequality featuring itself in a video game
Oh, that's good to know. Thanks.
Which is supposed to be a form of escapism and hobby
too deep bro
@tardy tusk someone that laughed at me for.failing 50/50 failed as well



Bro that games looks insane
Btw
In dms
yh but what did they get
Bronya
Real that shit was well made
check community guide for info on char
https://www.lostark.nexus/Souleater
Bro horror game devs are cooking again
Karma
They have a period where they release insane shit
your kids look like anime
And that specific one did not use ai for his art all self made
Enjoy the nap bro
Sure if i dont have nightmares


what to get with the extra coins
im leaning towards Silver
but idk 500k silver

kinda dooie
dookie
Silver all the way
Legendary engravings are useless anyway
Is it tradable
They are
Yes
@wintry depot wud u get silver or rng book
500 k silver vs 1g-4/5k gold book

onvm
breaker books dropped already

male class btw
its like 2k
highest is grudge at 3k
yo wtf
why are aero books
more expensive than NE SE and Pred Slayer books now
are ppl coping for the CN Aero changes to come to our server

A few people buying out books screws the prices
I bought my aero books today for example
r u sure those changes wont make it to our server
It’s how they compensate for older classes being released very late
Striker will 100% get one
Otherwise nobody would play it
They will if they make it strong
People don’t give as much of a shit about male or female class there
They play what’s strong


i see
its 2nd place for most expensive class engraving atm
after Breaker
Like sure bard and artist/aero are very popular with female players
its Breaker Aero Souleater Slayer Artist
Did they announce class buff ?
top 5
But plenty of female players also play male classes like destroyer, zerker, gunners
fixd
nothing much has been said about class balance
ppl tend to like their opposite gender classes

Slayer and souleater probably won’t get an exclusive buff there
Since they are already strong

And modern classes
is that how u swing?
neither will Breaker
I think glaivier didn’t need the last nerf
They already got breaker
That 2% less crit dmg 

They get slayer when we get thaemine
NA didn’t negotiate that sort of contract
Female pala when
Amazon is letting us down
CN gets a lot more custom changes due to the way they negotiated their contract
Tencent Games dwarfs AGS in influence

but man
These aeros are so popular still
im so shocked they surpassed se and slayer
in engraving sales
It’s an expressed class that’s easy to play
And cheap to gear
It’s the perfect alt
It plays smoother than slayer and souleater
I was gonna make a WD pass
Is cheaper to gear
@thorn sluice Benji's resume of the stream

nothing too exciting there
all kinda whatever
They have a lot of right ideas to start off of
the flow looks good, do you like it?

Nobody is ever going to be happy with balance
And balance is a nightmare in a game with so many diverse classes
they needa keep their focus
Add a balance patch where every class gets a damage buff and people will still be pissed
they wre on the right track of balance
of focusing the weaker classes
they shuda kept going
instead of what it sounds like now
is that all classes under are fine now
and we will focus on the top side
Which less ppl give a sht about

The only balance needed is buff dps paladin thx
Just nerf Zerk
thanks 
and some of the bottom classes still need assistance
Untrue. I like seeing people cry
You can’t keep buffing everything
Otherwise you run into power creep issues with the content you design
U cant buff some and then leave some clearly still at the bottom
If everything is broken then all is balanced frfr
Maybe they like being bottoms
Also there will always be classes at the bottom
meh
It’s impossible to reach a satisfiable equilibrium in a game like this
They are
You pugged it?
Yearning nerfs were confirmed already
Like FF14 even gave up on job diversity after 3.0

And went towards homogenizing all roles 4.0 onwards
first clear no, second on nae yes
And that game has much less of a disparity to begin with
Yeah cause people wanted different things from the same class so might as well kill it
People bitch about 1-3% differences
Okay, who did you do first clear with?
So they just made everything play mostly the same and have like a 1% difference
That 1% holds them back
im bitching about bard not getting anything from the mage balance patch
stupid smilegate
but ppl who say play what u enjoy and wanting to pump usually doesnt always match
friends?
Sometimes u gotta choose one or the other
Yearning nerf take it or leave it
NO
You can’t have satisfactory balance and extreme class diversity
i just met 1630 breaker with dd12
I WANT BARD REWORK
MOBAs are a very good example of this
lol
Which is why they never settle on a single balance patch
Nobody wants to be in the middle or bottom
If they’re not at the top, they’re going to bitch
LOS 30 people are ego bro
They are btches for constantly wanting to be at the top
Diablo 3 was like that and now you see number with quadrillion of quadrillion, this is stupid af. Numbers meant nothing anymore

I'm gatekeepingg people in order and this guy cancels cuz i took too long
youre either first or youre last
Their entire personality is "look at my numbers" on a non competitive game

I don't have any of those
bruh like
ive been playing SH
for half a year now
and i just started Slayer 2 weeks ago
i feel like i pump harder on slayer

SE, no question there
pump much harder too
The only real thing SG should be doing better with regards to balance is modernizing old classes
Unfortunate
Should I use 10 selects for Los 18?
rip scouter
no
rip sh
Holding equilibrium balance against them is asinine because of how diverse classes are
I felt like my scrapper pump much more dps than my aeromancer but I like aero more
save for los 30
I ain't ever getting los 30
Performance also gets skewed due to dynamic raid design
One encounter could be entropy friendly and the next one couldn’t
I had the most absurd dream, a lady in a fat suit, took her suit off, it's happens to be the late queen, but then she grows into a giant robot 
Lmao
BARD
Bard I feel like is a case of developer hubris/tunnel vision on atk buff ceiling

Refusing to admit that the design is outdated and that the slightly higher ceiling is justifiable for the gameplay

i mean its easy
Also bard doesn’t underperform in thaemine
u can argue that for surge tho 
Surge has the issue of being sandbagged by the average player
doesnt even need cleanse
I'll catch you another time
The last comprehensive surge rework made ceiling go to the moon but also tanked the floor
Buff paladins pls I need more afkability
And the average player is much closer to the floor
Cleanse hasnt been relevant for 3 raids now
4 if you count akkan
Bard not being the worst support for thaemine is likely a reason why they haven’t made reworking it a priority
Bard is the best support in kr end game right now
I would say palla is the worst atm
i will always remember all the kr streamers bard thatwere oom every 10secs in thaemine
shit was funny af
artist is probably the most balanced of the 2
im pretty sure kr bards have shit uptime on brand
Nobody cares
No way for them to tell
yeah
Its still better than 2

Bard rework into a DPS coming
Our interpretation of meter data heavily focuses on buff efficiency and dps ceilings
SG almost certainly has different prioritizes
Speaking of balance its clear sg is not focusing on the balance currently to the point they are giving up on the cash cow that is a new class for 3rd awakening
just counter more or lower party dps and cast heals easy mvp steal
longer raid but its worth it for u
Sg doesnt care about min max and its evident with the way they make raids
yea that makes sense
Scrapper pretty strong atm
and ppl say Aero is more a supportive/utility dps
honestly last time i played Scrapper compared to WD
WD felt smoother to me

the movement flow was better
more comparable to modern classes
minus the animations
wish they were flashier
old scrapper was much smoother
uhm
I would not say clunky
I like this new scrapper 
( taijutsu ) let's say the old scrapper with the balance patch in 2022 that remove the buff damage from the two low stamina skill, high swiftness became meta and I was already playing high swiftness so I was very happy.
After many test and try, I even made a build that have the exact same dps without the big dps shock skill, don't remember the name. and the rotation was endless, as long as you can hit, you do a skill.
now you have downtime
I don't like downtime


easy 1 tap
ded gaem
show gold you pussy
hmm i see
f2p gold balance
Fake screenshot
wheres all ur gold
lol
NE Souleater casually doing 31.1m dps in Sonavel
Deserved tbh

How you know, cheater?
Shore
Where's the winners I don't see any

You don't have any

Bro is the math god
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Bro calculated every number coming out of the Souleater manually
Cheaters cheat

gets hit by a falling piano, surely
Same energy as the dudes gf from the Boys being atomized
You cheat
@full igloo the patch
This will be Adriel soon
Yeah kinda

poor benji
Poor Benji still mains destroyer
he main swapped to breaker
he main breaker now.
+25 on breaker
BFK breaker.
That reminds me of the main character of the platform, he went to prison because he killed someone by throwing his TV out of the window
yeh
hehe
Like the director was complaining about NA have a lot of dps meter xd
Since i dont use it im fine 😴
SG told AGS to ban it
They won't do it tho
Too many people use it for them to ban anyone
Imagine banning som1 for DPS meter in 2024
They dont like to work.
the whole hell community would be banned
That's fine
i mean be in that discord you gain a buff where your face thickened
that 3% are the most hardcore players tho
bruh gatekeeping on pc performance now
by 10%
They will be fine
They should indeed
hes a deadeye main for sure.
Wait it really means that ? 
No clue in loa context
But generally the genre is called fps
Lmaoo
f and d are pretty near
flare..pheromone and...s?
maybe he meant dps
Banned for bot
I had another idea what it means check dms

Self reported
Snake god

When we getting solo raids

I’d play again just for solo raids
sigh
What happens to rewards for alts when you clear fortunespire for the first time?
bro why is it hard to find dps kaya nm naw

i can join
please join icy
naw is dead
he dps until he die.
what your name?
my lobby is up for 20mins no dps applying
I keep getting dps pala engs
No

no


fr
he knows how to hit the boss
idk any mechs bro
i was in high hopes

no i don't
Oh right
I forgot you hadnt done kaya
g1 its easy
i've never taken a kay bus because i don't wanna do mech
xd
Get icied.
lets do a blind run.
too much work
since i dont know mech in g2-g3 to.

xddd
Normal 
no

Im used to that.
its normal here xd
Col?
Fr sounds more fun ngl
col? colorodo?
Colombia
On it

Sounds pog
Never
Projecting huh
gachas not even represent 5% of my money.
it was in fact not pog
nah tell me he wasnt being rude

That's normal
how bad was it? in the scale.
is it really as dangerous as people say it is?
it was a 4.2 in new jersey. which is about 60+ miles away from me
the east coast is very stable
Nah
like
if you dont live in the cartel zone
so even tho it wasnt intense, still kinda a mindfuck
you will have a normal life.
isnt the whole country cartel zone tho?

a friend of mine lives there now and he went to buy some coke from some random street dealers
alone
I mean thats "normal"
dealers are in any place.
some are fro mthe cartel
some are just ppl that want easy money.
hes a white guy that went to buy coke on his own in some sketchy neigbourhood, thats just asking to be kidnapped
hes not colombian?
no hes from the netherlands
maybe gang see him as easy target.
his girlfriend is colombian tho but she doesnt know about it

i know someone that lives in colombia, he's pretty safe and lives a pretty nice life and says some shit about being a fres or wtv
yeah this
yeah
si si cabron
Those ppl have a good and normal life.
they live in bogota now
Bogota its a nice place, beside some areas.
ken youre colombian?
they used to live in a cartel controlled town
its the capitol to.
Cali?
I am Spanish, just because i born in spain.
no idea
o
My mothers is Colombian, my father Argentinian
i swear u said u were either brazilian or colombian a long time ago lol
I said i live in colombia
Cali or medellin probably have the worst areas
i think it was medellin
time to go to medellin
god never that pasta again 
I love cocaine
voldis lobby sim is so bad man
from roman origen "Metellinum"
everyone wants 1610
unless your sup
at this point thats necessary
ive met 1630 with dd12
not even know cards give you bonus stat
1600s just go with other 1600s 
no man 1600s want 1610s to finish raid 5 minutes faster
that's understandable but i have los30
as do others
Then make ur own lobby and gatekeep them 
Toxic meta chaser Rosey 
idk maybe ur char looks sus
Lobbies for what
nm voldis
everything
mostly nm voldis. i get into every other raid pretty easily
Any content 1600 and above gets gatekept a lot
we only gatekeep on preset
Tower nm on ilvl? Gatekept

guess i'll hone 3 more pieces
like this guy in my voldis
🧎
If they Giga buff zerk soon, I'll yoink that preset for my 3rd zerk
My poor 1610 gatekept on frog 
Deadge game any future raids nm will be as difficult as current HM. And HM will be like Hell modes. West can’t handle that
tbh difficulty wise it has all been easier than vykas hm on release
this team look fine?
Is your Acheron e2
she will be
Swap rm for sparkle
He dont have sparkle
And put fmc instead of natasha

no sparkle what a bozo
You have welt,black swan or guinafen? @nova garden
Sparkle is like best wife
i don't wanna build mc

BS best.
guinafen
Bs too old for me
i lost 50/50 on bs
use guina instead of ruan mei.
okay yuzu
eh

but ruan mei is hot
acheron need 2 nihilitys in the party besi her.
no
otherwise she dont work.
i'm asking for e2 team
you have e2?
my acheron is going to be e2
Acheron pela sparkle aventurine/galladher/Gepard
all preservation with future market.
i don't use male characters
Fuxuan
don't have her
Fuhuo
idk who that is
Top waifus for me are - bronya, sparkle, sw, JL, fx

@supple parrot @quartz turret inanna azena and Wei up
She isn't anymore
Kafka, Blackswan, Ruan mei, acheron.
my mc is a male
Delain armen too if u guys care bout those
i don't use male characters
huge
Idk, use bailu then.
oh god no
I like submissive and tsundere/yandere
als othe best healer..Fuhuo
cant recommend you anothers cuz they are males..
Yep, you fucked.
Aven gonna be good but he is a dude
I pref mommys.
Aventurine its op.
he have gepard ult in the skill.
and he deal damage, buff and debuff.
If I wasn't broke, I would pull e0s1
are u doing akkan today, chris wants a run. he is experienced gamer now no longer a drone
I wonder if the new IPC dream team gonna have higher dmg ceiling than current Kafka swan dot comp
I'll join u guys
for f2p, maybe
I need akkan on SE
for whales, dont think so.
I mean
Guys, to make gold with fishing, is it better to make Oreah fusion materials or Oreha unsual fusion materials ?
My BS can deal 1-2 million just in dots.
yeah
my dot team its just bs and kafka.
i'm so excited for solo raids
maybe i raid
tbh, it's like a 90% chance i do when they come out
finally learning mechs.

why this always what i get 
I hope they get a lot of positive feedback and continue to add onto it
Add future content too, outside of the current top 3 raids
not really
JL, bronya, and ruan mei were the only characters i had leveled
and kafka
so i had to level pela, guinafen, and acheron from 0
like the overflow shit?
i have around 200 left
The one u get from bp
use it.
maybe
hsr3
that hi3.

it's fine
i'm a filthy casual
maybe too casual since i can't finish the main story because boss is too hard



Vedichedn
When akkan nm today 

When @fresh flint buys a new car

as long as its not you then its fine



what I do to you you talk like that to me

Hm kaya? 

HUH 


You need to remind me so I can start saving some for you

nnnnnno! i am braden frin 
baked egg
daz fukd up
WHO made this wtf actual psychos 
LMAOOO idk someone posted it here a long time ago
its so fkd
i want deviled eggs so bad
omgggggg
what do u need them for

Where do you get Olives
why does it matter you're on the other side of the ctiy
u should ask someone closer to u
gatekeeping the fkn olives
@lime dove martin wants to know where u buy your olives

dustin share the olives
can u even eat olives? i dont think u can have any more sodium in your body
you're practically a brine

classic salty brineary

when your bf kisses you he becomes pickled

@prime wind donate boots pls ty
make your own speed boots gamba
i havent done the event yet

dont u have like 15 saved up anyway
Brine 

My RM is so trash
Haven't even bothered farming for her
Star rail releases new characters too often 
I miss genshin days
When I could skip 2-3 patches in a row cause all the new stuff looked boring
this name omg
very creative yes

Holy shit
that otter is very cute
I've been using the wrong set for wep for a week
Lol
I had 5 halu 1 entropy

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