#lost-ark-discussions

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worn current
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People already making funny looking characters for dragons dogma 2

fresh flint
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what u want sharpie or crayon

stark thicket
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no

quiet igloo
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Chuankoko

fresh flint
quiet igloo
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What the

stark thicket
quiet igloo
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I got a free divine

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Form someone

fresh flint
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im gonna log onto poe

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and beg for divines in chat

quiet igloo
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Wasted it tho

quiet igloo
quiet igloo
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Divines are chump change

fresh flint
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im opening it ern

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rn

quiet igloo
fresh flint
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im gonna get muted

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garunteed

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poe mods r dumb

tidal sleet
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yeah

nova garden
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fuck

quiet igloo
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I watched a video ab a 50 mirror nado shot build

tidal sleet
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imagine not wanting begging shits every second in chat

nova garden
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i need a vpn but my vpn sub ran out

tidal sleet
quiet igloo
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Holy fuck he's juiced

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Like

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Giga juices

still lintel
quiet igloo
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Better then Esther 8 juiced

tidal sleet
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u

fresh flint
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no U

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RAVEN

quiet igloo
quiet igloo
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Proton VPN is freeish

tidal sleet
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I use PIA

fresh flint
tidal sleet
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idk why I even pay for it anymore, i havent used it in ages

quiet igloo
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I don't use any

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No need for one

tidal sleet
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I used to torrent heaps

quiet igloo
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Ew

tidal sleet
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my plex setup is pretty lit tho

nova garden
quiet igloo
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Ewww

tidal sleet
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better than 20 subs to crappy providers

quiet igloo
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Ain't that the one that had massive leaks a few years back

tidal sleet
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icy lemme send you an invite to pia

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you get free stuff iirc

quiet igloo
tidal sleet
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Pia is where its at lad

quiet igloo
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Pakistan airlines?

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What

tidal sleet
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wheres the i

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in that

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fkn az at it again

quiet igloo
fresh flint
quiet igloo
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Can't say it

fresh flint
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they arent amused

quiet igloo
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Fuck

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You lucky buddy

quiet igloo
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YOU ACTUALLY DID IT

fresh flint
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of course

quiet igloo
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Id never ask for divines (I've done it like ten times)

fresh flint
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gib 1 divine pls

quiet igloo
stark thicket
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why didnt u play with me in poe this past league

fresh flint
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i wait new league

stark thicket
quiet igloo
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Twelve dollars a month?

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Is that normal?

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For a vpn

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You quit before I could play w you

hidden jay
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@dark raft Wow

fresh flint
quiet igloo
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Why?

quiet igloo
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Just don't do the league mech lmao

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Nobody's forcing ya

quartz turret
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Bruhge how do i get this

quiet igloo
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And the league mech makes shit way harder

fresh flint
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im lvl 2 no shit noones forcing me

quiet igloo
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Super annoying when you accidentally enter the forest

fresh flint
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i was talking to koko

quiet igloo
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And get one shot

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Multiple times

fresh flint
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he asked me why i didnt play

quiet igloo
fresh flint
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and i told him

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im w8ing new mechanic

quiet igloo
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New mech gunna be giga shit tho

fresh flint
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wat is it

quiet igloo
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Idk

fresh flint
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then how do u know

quiet igloo
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I don't

quartz turret
swift lava
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you will eventually get it

fresh flint
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k getting back off that

radiant stream
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i hate poe

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they keep taking my money with their gamba boxes

tidal sleet
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last epoch looks goodge

quiet igloo
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Oh

fresh flint
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i WANNA try last epoch so fkn bad

quiet igloo
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Hopefully the rage tech doesn't get removed next league

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Dude it's so nice

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Free berserk

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Pls ggg

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Don't

charred void
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control glaivier too much dmg

tidal sleet
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I want to play games in general. But then I sit at PC and stare at it blankly GIGADEAD

quiet igloo
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Take my fun away

quartz turret
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these are ass

quiet igloo
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Sounds like depression

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Raven

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You should go on a trip

tidal sleet
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na its not that

quiet igloo
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Smoke some weed

tidal sleet
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playing games for like 30m whilst exhausted just isnt appealing

quiet igloo
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Sounds like a lack of motivation

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Yeap

tidal sleet
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830pm rolls around and im giga tired

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kids man

quartz turret
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weak

quiet igloo
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You just old as fuck

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Skill issue

tidal sleet
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truth

fresh flint
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steam summer sale soongeeeee!!!

tidal sleet
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im washed up

fresh flint
tidal sleet
quiet igloo
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It's ok

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You don't gotta game anymore

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Time to find dad hobbies

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Like

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Uh

tidal sleet
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ive been cooking lots

quiet igloo
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._.

tidal sleet
fresh flint
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collecting stamps

quiet igloo
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Idk

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Yeah that

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Or magazine

tidal sleet
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cooking is a good hobby, and it makes nice food

quiet igloo
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Or car

fresh flint
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collecting hats

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dads like hats

bitter lichen
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hit the gymnasium

quiet igloo
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Game I want is on sale rn

quiet igloo
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For five use

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USD*

fresh flint
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which 1

quiet igloo
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Shinobi striker

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Naruto game

tidal sleet
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ill up my dad joke game

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ill make that my hobby

quiet igloo
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I played the fuck outa it a few years back

fresh flint
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oh, nayrootoe

quiet igloo
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Was really good at it too

tidal sleet
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Hey guys. Have you ever made an Enzyme? No? Me neither. But I have made a Hormone.

quiet igloo
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I was told PC version has issues w hackers tho

fresh flint
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nice gogle

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ban

tidal sleet
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I typed that shit bro

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Whats the best type of air to breath if you wanna be rich? Millionaire

bitter lichen
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i played it on xbox and online was broken for like week at launch

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then i uninstalled

quiet igloo
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Oxygenated air

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So I don't die

fresh flint
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I like to huff laughing gas

quiet igloo
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What the fuck

tidal sleet
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What causes dry skin? A towel

quiet igloo
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Yeah ok raven

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Time to shut off PC

tidal sleet
quiet igloo
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Take your meds

tidal sleet
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Yesterday I was washing the car with my son. He said, "Dad, cant you just use a sponge?"

fresh flint
quiet igloo
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I'm saving money rn

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No

stark thicket
charred void
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give dragons dogma 2

bitter lichen
fresh flint
stark thicket
fresh flint
quiet igloo
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Well it is now

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Idk ab it's launch

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Comboing people to death is hilarious

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I used to three/four stack

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Def made people uninstall

fresh flint
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Ohhhh geez I’m so pregnant

turbid oriole
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Lost Ark is an mmorpg that advocates bussing in which players can sell clear to other players. At the same time, there are other websites that sell these clears for real money. Gold ingame however, can be translated into money as well so it is no different whether people buy clear ingame or not. Kanima disagrees with the practice of bussing in t...

▶ Play video
fresh flint
turbid oriole
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would you pay RC for a clear

quiet igloo
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What?

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Yes

stark thicket
quiet igloo
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Why not?

fresh flint
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If yall don’t stop linking kanima videos im suing

quiet igloo
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Wouldn't that be like

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Illegal tho

fresh flint
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God I hate reaction content farmers

quiet igloo
fresh flint
quiet igloo
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I want a button on the legion raids screen that gives me the loot but I pay for it w rc

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Like

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I don't gotta ride bus

bitter lichen
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the way kanima talks makes me want to kms in game sometimes

quiet igloo
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Just buy it

fresh flint
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I was trying to say this as well

quiet igloo
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The more lazy I can be

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The better

radiant stream
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rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

bitter lichen
fresh flint
fresh flint
quiet igloo
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True

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NVM

fresh flint
quiet igloo
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I'll reinstall for breaker express then uninstall

fresh flint
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I’m going to make my breaker so hot

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I’m gonna make him stay naked 24/7

quiet igloo
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Uh

fresh flint
quiet igloo
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Ok

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I'm making a second slayer

fresh flint
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Yeah he’s gonna be so hot

radiant stream
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beaker express means another 1415 lopang aero alt Comfy

quiet igloo
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Like

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Gojo hot?

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Dude gojo man

bitter lichen
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breeeeakuhh

fresh flint
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Mmmmm gojo

quiet igloo
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He'd make me like dudes

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Ngl

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Too bad he's dead

fresh flint
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I want my breaker to look like sukuna

bitter lichen
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theres legit a breaker preset that i had that looks like him

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goji

quiet igloo
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Oh .

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Clutch andy

bitter lichen
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I dont even know who that is i just search him up

still lintel
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9 more taps for +20 PogU

robust birch
quiet igloo
fresh flint
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I’m so slow to finish anime’s

tidal sleet
tawny lion
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Why did you spoil gojo dies? It literally just happened in the manga and changed the entire shift and world building of JJK madge

fresh flint
full igloo
fresh flint
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What

bitter lichen
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can we ban azreal

quiet igloo
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Why

fresh flint
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I have no reason to continue watching JJK now

quiet igloo
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Ok

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It's a shit anime

fresh flint
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You fucking monkey

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It’s not ur taste is just trash

bitter lichen
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hes not dead just make breaker with his preset Clueless

tawny lion
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“Shit anime, reads manga weekly on release” Weirdga

quiet igloo
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Fuck off

robust birch
fresh flint
robust birch
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There's 0 character development

tawny lion
robust birch
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Just this guy does this thing and he beat that guy up by doing this

tawny lion
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The main villain and gojo both have character development

robust birch
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Also now this guy has this new power blah blah

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Why's the emo guy all of a sudden able to just break into domains

quiet igloo
robust birch
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He was just a weak bitch 2 episodes ago

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And now he's Ballin out

tawny lion
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Bro it’s so well written even nanami’s abs have character development shruge

bitter lichen
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pog the man antagonist and protagonist have character development Pog

robust birch
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That's the other thing the hottest chick in the show is a dude

fresh flint
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I’ll stick to my frieren

fresh flint
robust birch
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Is it not lemon

bitter lichen
fresh flint
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Wait

bitter lichen
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it is lemon

fresh flint
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I did not figure it out

robust birch
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Chris you absolute goof ball

fresh flint
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What the fuck

robust birch
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It's lemon

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Idiot

fresh flint
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I was like OH ITS DEMON

bitter lichen
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It use to be I3m0n

robust birch
bitter lichen
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but had to change it bc of discord rename w/e it was

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so its not as obvious

robust birch
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Where did you find a D

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To make it demon

fresh flint
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iLemon

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I DONT KNOW

bitter lichen
fresh flint
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THR LOWERCASE I WAS TRIPPIN ME

robust birch
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All you can think about is D Classic

fresh flint
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Lies

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I think about sushi a lot

dark raft
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i3m0n

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suh

bitter lichen
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ye its suppose to be I3m0n

robust birch
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Same shape kinda

fresh flint
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True

dark raft
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it fits u

fresh flint
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Life is full of subliminal dicks!!!

robust birch
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Based

dark raft
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bootleg ass lemon

bitter lichen
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no bootleg

fresh flint
cedar zealot
robust birch
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Work

cedar zealot
robust birch
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It's Friday sh_joeangry

bitter lichen
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no its saturday

supple parrot
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no its patrick

robust birch
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Shut up chuan

bitter lichen
supple parrot
lime dove
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Ayy

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Bless the ags team

robust birch
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Nope

sand marsh
robust birch
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I'll bless them in year 5 of loa

lime dove
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Bots are gone

quiet igloo
robust birch
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Oh shit I'm CAUGHT

quiet igloo
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Shouldn't have been there to begin with

cedar zealot
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just one drop would set me up for life

lime dove
supple parrot
# lime dove Bots are gone

how u know those are from bots shruge could be bunch of kids in some third world country farming gold by hand

radiant stream
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same i would be 1650 f2p

robust birch
lime dove
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Sweatshop kids

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Evolving

quiet igloo
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Have to feed kids

robust birch
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Not necessarily

supple parrot
robust birch
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Rmt is rmt

sand marsh
supple parrot
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ya but they dont do shit about it as there isnt a way to prove it either way, the way they ban is they ban based on flow of botted gold

lime dove
sand marsh
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surely 10mil accessory sold is someone bussing for months on 24 chars each week then funneling that to another account

supple parrot
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shruge if ur friend quit and give u all their gold via ah or something, should that be bannable for rmt

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i think it should

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but they dont

full igloo
buoyant wagon
# lime dove

those almost certainly aren't actual gold sales

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far more likely to be gold sellers transferring gold between themselves

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virtually no reputable gold seller would straight up do a 10m gold AH sale to a buyer, it would be broken up into smaller amounts or laundered through mats like sidereals

cursive ruin
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If they give you gold and there is no money transaction, it's just giving gold through AH, people do that every day with busses.
This is where the problem with RMT goes, how is AGS sure there was money transaction involved, they don't most of the time.
I'm pretty sure they do it by tracking bot farming gold and continue to track that gold until it fall on a player hand.

supple parrot
buoyant wagon
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they are basically agreeing with you on that point chuan

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10/10 reading comprehension skills

full igloo
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Of course they have have many different way to track it

buoyant wagon
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anything that is player generated they don't track

full igloo
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but overall there's no way to be sure someone spend money to get gold

supple parrot
buoyant wagon
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because tracking it is a complete waste of time when they can never reliably prove there was money exchanged

buoyant wagon
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with botted gold there's far more of an accurate inference that it was a monetary transaction

bitter lichen
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the best thing they can do is yapp about abnning rmt when they wont do shit to scare ppl to buy in game curreny shruge

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that way player count doesnt go down and more in game currency gets bought shruge

buoyant wagon
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nobody is ever going to use the ingame exchange when there's a 3 day hold and it's at least 60% less inefficient

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at best they need to go the CN route and make a lot of competitive honing material packages

bitter lichen
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newplayers will

buoyant wagon
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but i suspect they dont want to do that out of fear that the cash shop is going to get criticized as being too p2w

bitter lichen
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bc they wont know shit

full igloo
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if only our account was tied to an idendity card and punishing identity thievery for an mmo was a thing handled by each government.
there would be far less bots.
sadde

buoyant wagon
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account creation tied to national identity will never fly in the west

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not to mention there being over a dozen countries serviced in the west, which makes such a system infeasible

supple parrot
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cuz they pussies

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u sell random gem for more gold than its worth? ban

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sell random accesory? ban

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problem solved

full igloo
supple parrot
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mail gold? ban

buoyant wagon
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lol there is no manpower to review every accessory

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not even tencent can do it

supple parrot
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just automate it

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they just wont do it

buoyant wagon
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how the fuck are you going to automate it

supple parrot
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anything that doesnt have 2x meta engraving

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is a ban

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dont give a fuck

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if u get falsely banned

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fuck u

full igloo
bitter lichen
supple parrot
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if u want to solve a problem that cant be solved

still lintel
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@dawn yacht sleep kog ruining game by going ap with this comp

supple parrot
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then u gotta be oppresive

obtuse oyster
supple parrot
buoyant wagon
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easy way to get people to quit the game when you are that oppressive lmao

stiff siren
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i lend gold to friends in mail so they can buy something and they pay back so thatd suck to get banned for

supple parrot
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then dont complain about bot/rmt

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cuz it aint solvable

bitter lichen
supple parrot
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otherwise

bitter lichen
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probably all of them shruge

tulip charm
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grandma just minused 4 on my luminary purple elixir, great game

buoyant wagon
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nobody wants to hear the truth that kmmo developers tacitly allow rmt in their games because they know without rmt nobody would fucking play their games lol

buoyant wagon
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it's far too much work and trouble to crack down on player to player transactions

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for too little gain

supple parrot
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what i say may sound very oppresive, but honestly it would not affect normal game play at all shruge it would fuck over bussers but w/e it is what it is

stiff siren
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id be more inclined to play if there was less rmt

supple parrot
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the fact they wont do it cuz they know if they ban all that shit

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ppl will quit

bitter lichen
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Smilegate makes alittle money off me and i get to make alittle money of smilgate sounds reasonable shruge

buoyant wagon
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the top paying demographics of these type of games all engage in rmt

supple parrot
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i dont shruge

bitter lichen
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if they ban rmt gl finding thaemin hard lobbies shruge

full igloo
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I don't

buoyant wagon
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paying

supple parrot
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but im f2p

buoyant wagon
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arent you f2p

supple parrot
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lin dont rmt afaik shruge

buoyant wagon
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therefore you aren't part of the demographic that the developers truly care about

full igloo
obtuse oyster
bitter lichen
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ultimate starter pack has cool mount shruge

buoyant wagon
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you don't think developers and publishers haven't done the analysis and concluded that going too hard against rmt is usually a net loss for them?

stiff siren
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this starter packs are kinda trash lol

buoyant wagon
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these game designs essentially encourage you to rmt, just the developers prefer you use the ingame shop

gilded star
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Using Wei during x0 Vykas is more effective on the real version rather than the clone, or it's just a hoax?

supple parrot
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there is a saying in chinese, if a pond is too clean then there wouldnt be fish shruge

buoyant wagon
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but they can't stop you from trading with other players because it is impossible to police without making the game a nazi surveillance state

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unless the game has no trading to begin with, then it just becomes piloting instead

quartz turret
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classic zheng

radiant stream
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next thing you know he's gonna drop his 4th sidereal

tidal sleet
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classic zheng

buoyant wagon
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people meme on NA rmt when it's just as bad if not worse in Korea and China, with the only caveat being they dont have nearly as many bots due to their account creation restrictions (which wont work in our version)

quartz turret
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man i love rapport quests

buoyant wagon
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and SG/Tencent gives about as less of a shit as AGS does

quiet igloo
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You can in kr

full igloo
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not even a joke

buoyant wagon
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our gold here is more hand farmed than bots now

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but people refuse to believe that

tidal sleet
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its more than 2 accounts

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its like a team of people

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playing 20 accounts

quiet igloo
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Fr

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They make their living off of it

tidal sleet
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Proper big farm in indo with 20 computers

quiet igloo
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Kinda cringe

obtuse oyster
tidal sleet
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better than slaving on a rubber plantation

bitter lichen
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true

quiet igloo
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Just have better spawn rng

buoyant wagon
quiet igloo
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Don't be born there

tidal sleet
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botting doesnt cause rmt

buoyant wagon
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and if you care about value, rmt is the most efficient way to do it

tidal sleet
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rmt there with bots or without

quartz turret
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damn why do ppl born to be poor

buoyant wagon
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would you have far more motivation to rmt in gw2/ff14 or lost ark

tidal sleet
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its about time efficiency, why would I grind 40 hours in loa when I can spend 2 hours wage and have more efficient progression than that 40 hours

supple parrot
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and they would not be ok with that

tidal sleet
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like its a no brainer

buoyant wagon
full igloo
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I did RMT on Dofus, an old french mmo. And I did it for years as a child, teenager and a youngster.
Luckily I grow up and learn to enjoy games the way they are or just quit the game.

obtuse oyster
# tidal sleet botting doesnt cause rmt

Botting does cause rmt. If Lost Ark had shop bundles that were 3$ and could be bought 100 times while reseting every 2 weeks and could easily get you 1655. People wouldn't rmt

full igloo
tidal sleet
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ya

bitter lichen
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Unless it was cheaper shruge

tidal sleet
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the threat of being banned might keep some people legitimately buying from the shop, but one day they will take the risk once they see the diff in prices

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loa shop is a rip off

buoyant wagon
tidal sleet
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in comparison to what you can gain

buoyant wagon
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make a lot of extremely competitively priced packages you can buy

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so you make money off of that

supple parrot
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just stay f2p like me, be patient and hone with bounds

buoyant wagon
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but silently turn a blind eye to people buying gold

supple parrot
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more goals for the game, it stays fresh

buoyant wagon
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because they're going to do it anyways

bitter lichen
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instead they just farm the bozos that just buy the overpriced to make up for it

tidal sleet
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theres a small subsection of the playerbase that will still buy out the full loa shop every event

buoyant wagon
tidal sleet
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and thats that

buoyant wagon
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the punishments are almost never strict enough to be a meaningful deterrent

tidal sleet
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those few players that whale hardcore on the in game shop keep them going

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even POE devs said that their biggest profits come from the giga whales with far less than average playtime

valid turtle
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finally

tidal sleet
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people with 10k hours like chuan dont make them profit

lime dove
cedar zealot
buoyant wagon
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these companies have all done the cynical calculus that banning gold buyers loses them more money (because gold buyers are people who spend on the game and therefore they overlap with people who spend in the ingame shop) than people quitting because of unpunished gold buying costs them

prime wind
lime dove
supple parrot
valid turtle
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step it up justin

buoyant wagon
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i mean, look at WoW

tidal sleet
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in games where rmt is common its either time whale or money whale for progression

buoyant wagon
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famous for their 2 week gold buying suspensions, which didnt do shit and didn't catch most people

tidal sleet
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theres no sweet spot

buoyant wagon
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and they ended up releasing WoW token to try to compete

supple parrot
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without f2p like me in the games, whales dont have anyone to flaunt to shruge

cedar zealot
tidal sleet
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if you cant commit 40+ hours a week to loa you fall behind

supple parrot
tidal sleet
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unless you made a char in jump i spose, so thats getting better

supple parrot
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im making ags more money

cedar zealot
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so thats why wrekk went hard on SE

buoyant wagon
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but you are replaceable chuan

cedar zealot
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all makes sense now

buoyant wagon
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you can be replaced by any random player who sticks around for a few hundred hours

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someone who drops thousands is less replaceable

dusty tiger
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hi Im new, how to unlock glaivier?

obtuse oyster
buoyant wagon
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as long as you have to raid to progress

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there will be bussing culture

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there are far too many players without the time or hands to constantly raid

obtuse oyster
cedar zealot
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smg gets the money and not the bussers

dusty tiger
cedar zealot
obtuse oyster
bitter lichen
buoyant wagon
tidal sleet
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didnt they ban people recently

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for like 1day

bitter lichen
buoyant wagon
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because most people just suck it up because it's been a fact of mmo gaming for decades

dusty tiger
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thanks

buoyant wagon
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mmos have never been fair when time and money have always been part of the equation

quartz turret
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monkaHmm i dont think 90 island soul is that bad noiw

buoyant wagon
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that guy is a 1650

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that's like the only example given by anyone in this discord

uneven mortar
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i finished lost ark for the week

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just need akkan and exvaltussy

bitter lichen
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i didnt get banned so take that however you will xddfishing

buoyant wagon
#

there's an alternative explanation for why the bans are so short

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because of the people getting caught, they only had a low proportion of botted gold compared to hand farmed gold

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and the system only flags botted gold

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most of the gold in circulation is hand farmed gold, to the point botters buy it to supplement their stocks and resell

swift lava
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ppl in this game are so stupid lol

buoyant wagon
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of course, the other more popular explanation is AGS doesnt really give that much of a shit and there's no financial incentive for them to give heavier punishments

uneven mortar
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its not easy to trace washed gold lol, in real life banks spends millions on a system with fuzzy logic to trace money laundering/frauds

buoyant wagon
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any game with an unrestricted marketplace or face to face trading is a logistical nightmare to monitor

uneven mortar
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if you want to trace a transaction that went through the hoops imagine the effort you must put

supple parrot
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just implement it shruge even my rice cooker has fuzzy logic to help me cook rice better

turbid oriole
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sounds about right

supple parrot
buoyant wagon
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or his wife

bitter lichen
supple parrot
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wdym, rice cookers literally have fuzzy logic

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to adjust temperture

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to cook rice better

hearty gazelle
buoyant wagon
#

credit card fraud is a lot easier to catch

turbid oriole
buoyant wagon
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because eventually when a chargeback gets initiated you just have to look at the account that made the purchase

hearty gazelle
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Yes it is but does the person who posts t3 accs get caught when gold comes from skins and we getting so much free pheons to trade with

uneven mortar
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i remember when australian banks get 1 billion fine anti money laundering suddenly got big in finance sector

buoyant wagon
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if you're receiving credit card fraud gold, yeah that's highly likely for a ban

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but credit card fraud gold is extremely uncommon to nonexistent these days

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it likely wasn't ever that big to begin with

uneven mortar
buoyant wagon
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china is the home of selling stolen credit cards to buy ingame currency and they dont even have a 3 day gold hold

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which begs the question as to why we have it

uneven mortar
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cuz someone on ags want to put that one line in their pfr

buoyant wagon
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then again, people would actually burn the game down there if there was a 3 day hold

hearty gazelle
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3 days is nonsense majority of ppl don’t check cards for weeks

buoyant wagon
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^

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been saying that for a while

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your average person doesnt even fucking check their card daily

uneven mortar
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"Help cuts down cc fraud from x% - y% due to preventative measure implemented such as"

buoyant wagon
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if people checked their cards daily, credit card fraud wouldnt be such a massive industry

hearty gazelle
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Thats why some get gold from chuan under 3hr delivery

supple parrot
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Most ppl don’t even use credit card in China

hearty gazelle
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Why is that?

supple parrot
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Culture thing

prime wind
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amazon just uses the 3 day hold

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i think steam's is normally 7

supple parrot
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And they have point system on debit card and stuff that’s basically same as credit card here

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The only reason I use credit card is to get points

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And fly for free

uneven mortar
turbid oriole
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@rigid aurora its time

uneven mortar
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using card is so convenient

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inhate carrying cash now

buoyant wagon
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chuan flies for free because his cousins sell gold to fund his vacation

supple parrot
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Even street vendors and stuff

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Just have a QR code

buoyant wagon
#

same thing here in taiwan with line pay

supple parrot
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Ya

buoyant wagon
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get tattoo of your qr code on your forehead so you can scan your forehead to pay

supple parrot
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I guess ppl don’t trust credit cards in Asian countries shruge

buoyant wagon
azure valley
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o ur taiwanese?

supple parrot
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U mean Chinese

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From tw province

buoyant wagon
quartz turret
buoyant wagon
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i was born in the US

uneven mortar
azure valley
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clueless communist chuan

quartz turret
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communist chuan

buoyant wagon
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i just visit taiwan every now and then

azure valley
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we the same

buoyant wagon
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though this stay has been longer than usual because my dad is sick

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heading back in a few days

lime dove
uneven mortar
buoyant wagon
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unfortunately its not something you get better from

quartz turret
buoyant wagon
uneven mortar
supple parrot
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The karaokes in tw were very sus

quartz turret
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Sadge its all part of life

lime dove
supple parrot
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When I went

uneven mortar
supple parrot
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Wrekk would enjoy them

uneven mortar
quartz turret
buoyant wagon
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there's 2 types of karaokes

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legit ones

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and hostess ones

hearty gazelle
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Damn gotta get a train ticket to New York and act as illegal immigrant they giving free 10k and soon to be upgraded to 50k can buy some Steam gift cards

buoyant wagon
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chuan probably got invited to a hostess one

supple parrot
buoyant wagon
#

those aren't public anyways

supple parrot
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wdym not public

buoyant wagon
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you usually need an invitation in by an insider

supple parrot
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it was a huge building

uneven mortar
supple parrot
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and we just walked in

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didnt feel not public to me OMEGALUL

buoyant wagon
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and what kind of services did they have

supple parrot
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everything

uneven mortar
#

so you go in, get a lineup, choose few and they come into your room?

stark thicket
buoyant wagon
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because the red light ones are definitely not ones any random mook can walk into

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you need a friend who is a regular to get you in

azure valley
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yikes chuan a degenerate like wrekk

supple parrot
uneven mortar
#

whats the damage usually?

buoyant wagon
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uh

supple parrot
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well i did go with a local

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i guess they go there all the time

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but it didnt feel like a place

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where u cant just walk in

buoyant wagon
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it depends on the quality of the girls at the shop

cedar zealot
valid turtle
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all lvl 10s with a +2 build

quartz turret
#

FeelsGladMan f2p

uneven mortar
#

howbout the high quality ones

valid turtle
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ya thats legit

cedar zealot
wintry depot
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nice weakass spec

quartz turret
uneven mortar
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i actuallt never went to ktv lol

buoyant wagon
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if you want to go all the way with at least a 7 or 8/10 you're looking at 9k+ ntd on top of the cover charge of the establishment

uneven mortar
#

none in aus

lime dove
azure valley
lime dove
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U got the teemo

supple parrot
buoyant wagon
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which is usually like 3k+

valid turtle
wintry depot
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nvm

uneven mortar
#

12k usd?

bitter lichen
#

ive been to my local and it cost 200

buoyant wagon
#

taiwan red light prices at hostess establishments or outcall services are extremely expensive relative to the cost of living there

buoyant wagon
stark thicket
buoyant wagon
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you're almost paying american prices

cedar zealot
supple parrot
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9k ntd is like what

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300 bux?

buoyant wagon
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yeah

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divide by 31

supple parrot
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thats how much wrekk's massage cost shruge

uneven mortar
#

wait thats pretty fair actually

buoyant wagon
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it's fair if you are a westerner

quartz turret
buoyant wagon
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it's expensive if you are a local lol

wintry depot
bitter lichen
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worth it

uneven mortar
#

wait so you choose 1-2 girls each @supple parrot ?

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to sing with you

bitter lichen
quartz turret
buoyant wagon
#

i've been to one in my last trip that was probably a middle tier establishment?

stark thicket
buoyant wagon
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it was like 2-3k ntd per hour per person just to have the girls drink and sing with you

quartz turret
uneven mortar
buoyant wagon
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along with happy tugs

cedar zealot
uneven mortar
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whats the extras cost?

buoyant wagon
#

but more than that you'd probably negotiate upwards to 9k+/hr

hearty gazelle
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Where the ilvl?

quartz turret
cedar zealot
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people usually censor name not ilvl

uneven mortar
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oh you have to negotiate?

cedar zealot
#

only whales would hide ilvl

supple parrot
quartz turret
buoyant wagon
quartz turret
#

Susge wrekk thought its just like his massages

bitter lichen
buoyant wagon
#

the higher tier shops dont even give you a helping hand within the cover fee

uneven mortar
supple parrot
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there is a rest room in the room, u can take em in there Susge

azure valley
charred void
bitter lichen
buoyant wagon
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but yeah you're looking at 200 usd upwards

quartz turret
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Sadge gl removed from family picture soonge

buoyant wagon
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300+ more commonly if you want someone in their early 20s and taiwanese (viets and thais cost less)

cedar zealot
buoyant wagon
#

anyways lets change topic before mods bonk us

uneven mortar
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yeah

supple parrot
quartz turret
#

Bruhge f2p cant afford to drop 1620 alts

cedar zealot
uneven mortar
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but we just talking abt singing right

cedar zealot
#

in a few months

uneven mortar
#

i mean its like american idol convo

buoyant wagon
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singing

cedar zealot
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drop em now while you are ahead

buoyant wagon
uneven mortar
#

whos your fave singer

quartz turret
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madge i like striker

supple parrot
uneven mortar
#

yall like rihanna?

hearty gazelle
charred void
#

no

uneven mortar
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i think what she has is god given talent

buoyant wagon
quartz turret
#

gl is deadge

cedar zealot
uneven mortar
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yeah ambani thats crazy

supple parrot
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i went to normal ktv too. the ktv in tw are a lot shittier than in china, cuz of the real estate

buoyant wagon
cedar zealot
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apparently some of the big bois went there too

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lizard man

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and gates

buoyant wagon
uneven mortar
#

indian market is big

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1.2b people

buoyant wagon
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but yeah you cant really compare to ones in the tier 1 chinese cities

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because china is obviously richer

uneven mortar
buoyant wagon
#

EMPRESS dunking on india and pissing off her indian pirated games fanbase will never not be hilarious to me

supple parrot
quiet igloo
buoyant wagon
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most things have a nicer equivalent in china

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that's obvious

uneven mortar
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like the place or the singers have better voice and stuff?

quiet igloo
supple parrot
#

in china the rooms are like twice as big, more ammentites and stuff shruge

quiet igloo
#

Is there a nicer me in China?

buoyant wagon
#

establishments and furnishing

uneven mortar
#

i thought taiwan girls bery good singers

quiet igloo
uneven mortar
#

ooh

buoyant wagon
#

not necessarily better girls

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mainlanders really love taiwanese girls

uneven mortar
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i mean china have the land

quiet igloo
buoyant wagon
#

i think there's a perception that mainland girls are louder and more aggressive

bitter lichen
#

u mean ladyboys

buoyant wagon
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while taiwanese girls are more quiet and cutesy

quiet igloo
arctic beacon
quiet igloo
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Sounds racist

supple parrot
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its more that the tw accent is alot softer. esp compared to northern china

buoyant wagon
#

^

supple parrot
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which tends to be more aggressive and loud sounding accent

buoyant wagon
#

yeah some of the mainland accents are rough/loud

quiet igloo
buoyant wagon
#

i can't understand some of the accents completely

uneven mortar
supple parrot
#

the southern ones tends to be quieter

azure valley
uneven mortar
supple parrot
quiet igloo
bitter lichen
#

i dont mind rough in the bedge shruge

quiet igloo
#

What does chuan sound like

buoyant wagon
#

wrekk, you should learn japanese and go to japan

buoyant wagon
#

with how much of a beating the yen is taking

quartz turret
buoyant wagon
#

you'd probably enjoy it there

bitter lichen
uneven mortar
#

yeah alot of establishment closes off if you dont speak japanese

arctic beacon
#

I already do

quiet igloo
uneven mortar
#

learning the language is a pain

quiet igloo
#

It's one of the hardest languages to learn I think

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Imma learn swedish

supple parrot
quiet igloo
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And move to Sweden

buoyant wagon
#

it's never been a better time to be a hostess bar enjoyer in japan as a foreigner

uneven mortar
#

bro thats true

charred void
#

you only need english, chinese and maybe russian, everything else is useless shruge

bitter lichen
#

how much we talkin

uneven mortar
#

theres so many japanese girls rn

quiet igloo
tidal sleet
#

Meh

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The hot ones are taken wrekk

supple parrot
arctic beacon
#

Why Russian Weirdga

stark thicket
buoyant wagon
azure valley
#

racist ass Zheng at it again

buoyant wagon
#

i mean it's not wrong

azure valley
#

you know if you delete the mods def see it

stark thicket
#

I'm going to learn Japanese so I can move to Japan.

buoyant wagon
#

^

stark thicket
arctic beacon
#

Imagine

azure valley
#

if you don’t delete it just gets spammed away

hearty gazelle
#

Saving discord clutter, space memory

azure valley
#

Uh oh

#

Zheng about to get banned

still lintel
#

is that lil chuankokos account?

tulip charm
keen copper
#

Classic new players always wanting everything

bitter lichen
#

nobody answered my question Starechamp

supple parrot
#

japan doesnt feel like a good place to live tbh shruge

stark thicket
still lintel
#

someone else keep seeing these memes on twitter?

stark thicket
uneven mortar
#

do you guys go to ktv with western singers sometime? @supple parrot @buoyant wagon

quartz turret
#

Bruhge zheng being racist again?

uneven mortar
#

i feel like most of them is abit chubby

buoyant wagon
#

wait is zheng actually gone

stark thicket
azure valley
buoyant wagon
uneven mortar
#

eastern girls are always in shape

still lintel
cedar zealot
azure valley
uneven mortar
#

lmfaoo

buoyant wagon
#

nvm

supple parrot
still lintel
supple parrot
#

i would rather live in any other asian country prob shruge

buoyant wagon
#

i dont even go to ktvs

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because i cant fucking sing

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all i can do is drink

uneven mortar
charred void
stark thicket
quartz turret
#

mokokoFamily japan is a good place if ur japanese