lost-ark-discussions

[bitter lichen]

wheelchair infinite dmg unkillable

[queen grail]

And If you haven't watched it yet Vincenzo, but this one is pretty popular so I'd assume you've seen it.

If you want more Action, then Black Knight is good.

[fresh flint]

ONE SHOW ALY. ONE.

[queen grail]

Well, now you got something to pick from, Mad is comedy drama, Vincenzo is, drama (according to imdb) but still funny moments and action, and Black Knight is Action/drama.

[fresh flint]

[tulip charm]

can't wait to stress test mine once i get 40/40, i thought i hit good yesterday at the double arti at frog

alt arti get master, main arti get crit

[cursive ruin]

btw

our support yesterday in akkan was fucking trash

no purify no shields

I almost understood why people hated paladins

[tulip charm]

wait wat?

bard is one that have inconsistent purifies

paladin/artist never have this problem

its really hard to play a bad paladin i thought

[cursive ruin]

Because despite it being an easy class that DOESN'T have this issue, some of the paladin players are more dented than others

Yeah that's the thing

I only played with like one bad artist in my life, but it was during shitty farm content like brel nm

And in the one content where it matters

both are playing entropy pala and never counter

[buoyant wagon]

Paladins don’t have burst healing

That’s a turn off for people who want on demand healing

[supple parrot]

i mean paly are usually better than bard in pugs

but im not accepting rat sups in my raids

rat sup = decline

[brittle pulsar]

is it me or is elgacia laggy first time u etner and try teleport somewhere ?

[cursive ruin]

Just need shields

Btw

i'm watching inferno vykas

This is damn near identical to hm unlike kakul

[tulip charm]

what is the definition of a "rat sup"

[cursive ruin]

What's up with that

[dim lark]

net = rat sup

[cursive ruin]

Fook outta here!

[buoyant wagon]

Less than level 7 gems

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-gregor-ufc-conor-mc-gregor-swag-swagger-gif-7192658

[buoyant wagon]

Less than 1700 swift

[cursive ruin]

Exactly

[buoyant wagon]

Less than 5x3

[cursive ruin]

My bard wouldn't be a rat then she's 5x3 1700+ level 7 gems but I suck with her

[buoyant wagon]

Weird engravings

Extremely low quality

[dim lark]

so my sup alts

[buoyant wagon]

1600 sup alts sitting in full 40-50 quality

[cursive ruin]

or the average alt rostre supp

[dim lark]

1600 swift, 3x3 , lvl 5 gems its more than enough for a 1600+ sup

[supple parrot]

anything thats not properly build low ass gems, low swift, weird spec spreads, no 5x3 at least etc

[buoyant wagon]

The number of 1600+ supports that can’t be bothered to get a real bracelet with at least one support line

[supple parrot]

not for my groups

[dim lark]

ye cuz u suck

[tulip charm]

akkan hm ready

[supple parrot]

would u take a dps with 3x3 1600 main stat lv5 gems?

[buoyant wagon]

If you gear your support like a rat

[supple parrot]

if u like to eat shit then eat it, but dont ask other ppl to eat with u

[dim lark]

did i say dps or did i say sup? u fucking moron

[buoyant wagon]

Chances are your uptime is subhuman

Because if you care that little about your character

You probably don’t care that much to play it competently

[supple parrot]

samething, why r u gettin mad lil bro, if u wanna eat shit then by all means, dont expect others to eat with u

[dim lark]

im not mad, im just calling you what you are

[supple parrot]

cuz i dont enjoy eating shit like u?

that seems ironic

[bitter lichen]

we all know supporters get to fk our wifes for free and still get invited t ogroup

[dim lark]

i don't eat shit, ur the one talking about eating shit, i guess u have experience

[delicate sandal]

29.2m dps on frog with 0 set no darks pretty good

[tulip charm]

part of me want to stop honing my entire roster

[supple parrot]

u play with 3x3 sup at 1600, so yes u do eat shit

[tulip charm]

and just focus EVERYTHING into honing a 1630 bard, as a rogue supp

[supple parrot]

and by the sounds of it

[tulip charm]

and charge people 200k per dps slot, at thaemine hm

[supple parrot]

u enjoy it

[dim lark]

i never said i play with these sups, i said that its more than enough for any raid

[bitter lichen]

its free real estate

[dim lark]

dented fuck

[supple parrot]

and u called me a "fucking moron" for not playing them, what does that imply?

r u that stupid?

[dim lark]

why i even bother with u

god

[supple parrot]

idk why did u insult me out of no where? r u that stupid?

[dim lark]

idk if u chose to be dented or that headset really cut through ur brain

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lying-cat-paws-paws-cat-chilling-cute-cat-gif-25282206

its too early/late for this...

defuse rage with cat pics

[buoyant wagon]

Theoretically 4x3 dps with level 5 gems is also enough for pretty much all content if you have hands

[cedar zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[buoyant wagon]

But you wouldn’t trust such dps to have hands

[stark thicket]

[buoyant wagon]

Same with shit geared supports

[stark thicket]

[supple parrot]

a shit sup affects the game play experience much more than a shit dps

just deny the shit ones

[cursive ruin]

supports don't need to be as geared as dps to be useful that's just how they're designed

[buoyant wagon]

Either way it doesn’t matter if you are a support or dps

[copper halo]

that's not really true, you just don't notice how much less useful they are

[buoyant wagon]

Rat geared character = reasonable assumption you don’t play it well either

[bitter lichen]

but all sups are rat geared?

[cursive ruin]

It is true

It's just not as much

[supple parrot]

this

[keen copper]

finally

undersold but cba

[buoyant wagon]

Obviously a support doesn’t scale as well as dps does with gear so they don’t need nearly as much capped stuff

[copper halo]

why sell stuff when you can do this instead

[cursive ruin]

wtf

[buoyant wagon]

Doesn’t mean they should go with the theoretical bare minimum that assumes they have the greatest hands in Arkesia

[cursive ruin]

yea of course

[silver bison]

dang

[cursive ruin]

ngl this is starting to hurt

[silver bison]

helped dps carry a 1-3 normal brel and got rewarded with my last brel card

[cursive ruin]

I'll go hone in elgacia

???

I BOUGHT THE WRONG OREHA

[silver bison]

o7

[cursive ruin]

WTF

holy shit is it expensive

[tulip charm]

ive never found this

gratz

[sand marsh]

[copper halo]

ty, never had anything bigger than a 10k drop before so imagine my shock

[uneven mortar]

why is this game so fucking ez

im done

[cursive ruin]

And I can't get a 7-7 stone screw you scalp

[uneven mortar]

oh my god

oh my lord

first f2p

[sand marsh]

wrekk stfu

[uneven mortar]

to get 25 wep klc 30 full 10 gems

[sand marsh]

pls

[uneven mortar]

easiest game of my life

[thorn sluice]

🐳

[silver bison]

"semi f2p"

[tulip charm]

holy sht, gratz

what %?

[thorn sluice]

Pity

[uneven mortar]

48% or smth

[cursive ruin]

Pity 25 weapon is like what? 1k usd?

[uneven mortar]

23 10% 24 26% 25 48%

21 pity 22 55%

[tulip charm]

gratz, this is huge

[cursive ruin]

good shit man

[tulip charm]

wtf is this god luck lol

[uneven mortar]

why is this game so ez

im so sick of lost ark

holy shit

[cursive ruin]

hope you pity 26 whenever it comes out

[copper halo]

when did you start investing on a shitty souleater

sheesh

[thorn sluice]

Everything is ez when you buy

[copper halo]

why not spend on a good class instead

[cursive ruin]

buy dn

[sand marsh]

buy dn

[uneven mortar]

f2p btw

[supple parrot]

wtf

[uneven mortar]

shit man

im ascending to godhood now

[thorn sluice]

F2p 🤣

[still lintel]

@dawn yacht @nova garden

[cursive ruin]

add bound orehas to chaos dungeon wtf

this shit is super expensive

[uneven mortar]

ill sell these when the price is good i guess

[thorn sluice]

Sorry bro don’t take it personal but I refuse to believe you honed an Akkan weapon +25 as f2p

In less then 6 months

While kr needed 4 years

Sry bruh I don’t drink your shiet

“F2p” bla bla

[sand marsh]

4 years?

what the

[thorn sluice]

Whatever it is, they had multiple years before us

[cedar zealot]

Nah not with kid shit

Go for Esther +8

[silver bison]

any1 know how much brel 1-3 nm vs hm gives off top of their head

[thorn sluice]

Only bound mats

[cursive ruin]

hm gives 500 more per gate

[thorn sluice]

[cedar zealot]

1-3 nm gives 52 with chests and the double bonus

Don't remember hm

[cursive ruin]

don't forget ancient mats

[uneven mortar]

i mean @supple parrot has 6 1620 as f2p

full 10 gems on several alts

all f2p

[silver bison]

ah so only 1500 diff

?

oh

mean gold sorry

[thorn sluice]

He has akkan wrap 22

[silver bison]

not the mats

[tulip charm]

actually
there is nothing beyond sideral +8 right? even on thaemine release?

[uneven mortar]

@tulip charm also 6 1620 , 1610 lopangs

f2p

[thorn sluice]

There is a huge difference between 25 and 22

[uneven mortar]

game so ez

[thorn sluice]

Sure xD

[tulip charm]

how many energies does it take if you clean out the vendor?

[cursive ruin]

yeah

1500 total

[silver bison]

ok cool

[tulip charm]

[thorn sluice]

🐳

[silver bison]

ty

i just dps carry on my SE then for nm only 1500 loss

[cedar zealot]

+8 Esther is the best till then yeah, idk how advanced honing works on esther

[silver bison]

good deeds = good karma = good drops

[cedar zealot]

Even kanima has an esther wep

[tulip charm]

i am f2p though, except ark pass

[cedar zealot]

So is kanima

[dawn yacht]

saw it already

[cedar zealot]

F2p with 1640+ scouter and 6mil gold

[thorn sluice]

They play since 2019

[uneven mortar]

[thorn sluice]

Don’t forget it

[uneven mortar]

now that if inished lost ark

[cedar zealot]

Time is the most op resource yeah

[uneven mortar]

time to spread democracy again

[thorn sluice]

[cursive ruin]

1580 cube with no supp is cringe

[supple parrot]

wtf are these lies

[cedar zealot]

Wait till merge and send me gems before you quit

[supple parrot]

im f2p but no 6 1620

or any alt with full 10

[cedar zealot]

Start bussing

It's good money

[stark thicket]

[silver bison]

jus get side drop

[dawn yacht]

[uneven mortar]

im so burned out lol

like when i fnished lost 30 back in brel

[still lintel]

guess you follow that person then :sleep:

[stark thicket]

time to buy buses for a few months until you are passionate about loa again

[supple parrot]

Got tired of lobby sim. Just log in do raids done

[dawn yacht]

yeah

[queen grail]

Man not even that Alphago elixir cutting place can help my cursed character.

All elixir it cut for me bricked into high heaven.

[supple parrot]

U ain’t even 1630 yet tho

[cursive ruin]

how expensive you think 1600 is gonna be from here

[keen copper]

cheap

[bitter lichen]

[cursive ruin]

how cheap

[thorn sluice]

It’s the 3rd or 4th day I read you saying always the same thing

[keen copper]

pocket change

[dawn yacht]

free just listen to chuans wisdom

[cursive ruin]

for whom? bill gates?

[queen grail]

It's the 3rd or 4th day I read you saying always the same thing

[cursive ruin]

I need numbers

[tulip charm]

@uneven mortar you should apply for a green name here, they all have 25 weapons

[keen copper]

me

[thorn sluice]

[cursive ruin]

bitch

give me numbers

[queen grail]

[bitter lichen]

[dawn yacht]

day gates ?

[keen copper]

[keen copper]

[dawn yacht]

[cursive ruin]

that's so cheap wtf

is it calculating honorstone and oreha prices?

[keen copper]

add in books and its even cheaper

[keen copper]

i dont even add that stuff in

i just look at gold and how much mats is needed

[bitter lichen]

no its not

[thorn sluice]

Check worst scenario

[bitter lichen]

thats just raw gold needed for hone

[thorn sluice]

[cursive ruin]

[supple parrot]

R u talking about just raw gold? Or buying mats

[cedar zealot]

[thorn sluice]

[cursive ruin]

I have bound honorstones and protection, I don't have superior

So maybe that

Bruh

Isn't worst case pitying everything?

[supple parrot]

U got white books? Prob not that much gold then. Maybe like 50k?

Don’t use solars

[cursive ruin]

I got books yeah

[buoyant wagon]

That’s a single pity on armor at 23

[supple parrot]

Whales honing 23 armor

[buoyant wagon]

Don’t remind me

I’m at 50% on my current one

[cursive ruin]

all things considered, 80k for pitying 23 armor is p good no?

[buoyant wagon]

500k gold in

[buoyant wagon]

That’s 800k

[uneven mortar]

im so glad i dont care abt thaemien

[buoyant wagon]

And if you have the shards

[cursive ruin]

nvm

[buoyant wagon]

If you don’t have the shards it’s 1.1m

[uneven mortar]

im first ballot F2P Hall of Famer

thats enough for me

[supple parrot]

That’s me

[uneven mortar]

but yeah making 25 wep on new class is so fucking shit, i put mb 2m on shards alone

[supple parrot]

Imagine meta chasing that hard

Just to do same dmg as c tier zerker

[silver bison]

going beyong +21 wep is whale territory

[supple parrot]

Or lower

[uneven mortar]

no son, im showing all these young people what you can achieve as f2p

old but gold

[buoyant wagon]

Maris shards are actually worse than market now

[uneven mortar]

[supple parrot]

Not rly. I hit 22 off bounds and after I hit 1630 off bounds I’ll start honing weapon again

[silver bison]

i think i finally get los30 from break express/road to thaemine

[uneven mortar]

i think it was during valt ex where i realized these 8 man contents are shit, one braindead make mistake fucks up everyone

[silver bison]

the taps still expensive

if u pity or close to it

[supple parrot]

I mean u get like 200k gold per week just off raid gold and selling mats

More if u include gems and drops

[buoyant wagon]

Monthly shop shards have also stopped being more efficient than rmt

Which is rather surprising

[uneven mortar]

its cause ags dont even play their game

lol

so all their pricing is fucked up

[supple parrot]

Shards is never a problem for f2p gamers

[buoyant wagon]

They’ve been more efficient for most of their existence

[cursive ruin]

so true king

[supple parrot]

Only u dirty whales have to buy those

Bottle neck is always leaps

[buoyant wagon]

Having to buy shards is so

[supple parrot]

[uneven mortar]

they prolly update it once every 6 months

[buoyant wagon]

But I need to finish honing before breaker

[supple parrot]

Aren’t u over 1630 alrdy

wtf u honing for

[buoyant wagon]

One away from 1640

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

Around 560k gold to pity

[cursive ruin]

look at him just sit there

[silver bison]

is next graid/chaos dungeon 1630?

[buoyant wagon]

Yes

[silver bison]

[supple parrot]

No 1620 one?

Lame

[buoyant wagon]

Don’t think so

[cursive ruin]

I'm glad to know I wont be doing any new raids for like a year after IT

[silver bison]

i was hoping chaos woud be 1620 one

shud be every 10 lvls imo past 1600

x_x

[buoyant wagon]

1620 chaos would make like

No difference anyways

[cursive ruin]

esther stone drop from fate ember

[buoyant wagon]

Even 1630 vs 1610 is basically the potential of a 200k fate ember

[tulip charm]

why 1630, when you can 1650

[silver bison]

u guys get fate embers?

[supple parrot]

Cuz there is nothing that requires 1650

[cursive ruin]

I got 2 epic selects today

[supple parrot]

[coarse lark]

are there any classes that feel similar to pred slayer? good mobility/fast attacks?

[cursive ruin]

Yeah not yet

[silver bison]

wdym chuan

[cursive ruin]

But soon, surely will be

[silver bison]

extreme thaemine needs 1650

[cursive ruin]

They'll keep adding more higher level raids

[supple parrot]

[queen grail]

SE, SF, Zerker,

I'm sure others too.

[silver bison]

i guess i just had to complain

[buoyant wagon]

They’ll let you advanced hone to the next raid

[cursive ruin]

1m silver

[supple parrot]

Yea and will hone when those things come. Advanced honing makes honing higher easier

[coarse lark]

thank you

[silver bison]

honing chest (s)

ill take it

[cursive ruin]

Cya buddy, prog a 1700 raid while I still learn ivory tower soy boy

[buoyant wagon]

It’s okay, just in time for deathboi to make his ivory guide

[silver bison]

what lvl do u need for advanced honing

[supple parrot]

Ivory is easy

[cursive ruin]

I'm getting there man

[keen copper]

1620

[cursive ruin]

I think I'm like 1593 rn

[silver bison]

oh dem

[keen copper]

clear echidna nm g1

[silver bison]

ok not honing anymore

[supple parrot]

1620. But from the looks of it. It mainly benefits higher honing in the range of around 1640 or higher

[silver bison]

until that comes out

my armors staying 1620 🙏

o

we prob get it in summer id guess

or late spring

[buoyant wagon]

Since advanced honing costs the same for everyone

[supple parrot]

I mean if u aren’t 1630 with transcendence u will prob be gatekept from echnida

[buoyant wagon]

It’s a more “efficient” gain the higher you are

[cursive ruin]

it's kind of like a new tier of armor?

[supple parrot]

I think it’s just a separate honing system

On top of current honing

[cursive ruin]

pity angle

[keen copper]

its just a different system

not new tier

[tulip charm]

idk if id call it easy, i got jailed for the first time ever this week at g4

its cancer, its not like normal g4 where its easy to resume and finish

NO ONE resumes g4 in hm

and if you do find a pt its always the people that die 5times every 10minutes

i legit thought g4 hm is ez to escape from, i am very very wrong

[supple parrot]

Prob cuz u weren’t doing it in peak hours

[buoyant wagon]

Dying in g4

Falling off one or two times sure

More than that is ????

[tulip charm]

ill straight up describe the experience
first of all you have to find a pt, thats already hard enough to requeue from g4

[supple parrot]

What time of the day were u doing this

[cursive ruin]

I can relate

I die in g4 sometimes

(brel)

[bold aspen]

[tulip charm]

first pt i straight up blocklisted all 3 of them, all 3 came from mari, and i never block anyone, they took like 40minutes to clear g2, and by the time the got to g4 one of them coudn't even count the door stagger mech, like he was sometimes 2, sometimes 3, sometimes 4

[tulip charm]

close to degen hours

was my own mistakae

[cursive ruin]

what are degen hours for eu

[tulip charm]

2nd pt, the sh kept planking to dumb sht, he got it together, then after about an hour, i noticed a trend

TWO OF THEM, kept dying, AFTER all the mechs finished, when he got enchanced patterns

[thorn sluice]

The thing is, this lobby seems to be filled with new players , why would you join those lobbys

[tulip charm]

like they kept dying at 10-20BARS left, it was the most tilting sht

[silver bison]

i did a 3 arti voldis hm this week was funny af

[tulip charm]

after this hapepned like 3 times, slightly over an hour, i left

[cursive ruin]

how do you guys have so many 1620

[silver bison]

i have 1

and will only ever have 1

[buoyant wagon]

Chuan: “just hone with bounds ez”

[tulip charm]

3rd pt i jail broke, took 40min, both dps was 40/40, close to 1625s

i outhit both on my alt arti i think

[supple parrot]

Cuz we don’t play 30 chars. It’s simple if u just do everything on 6 chars and hone with bounds

[cursive ruin]

just hone with the 10k 3-day-bound gold u get from cd bruh

foot ember gaming

[fresh flint]

Free 2 Purchase

[supple parrot]

I mean I get literally over 200k a week without bussing

It doesn’t take that much raw gold to hone per week

Via just bounds

[silver bison]

3-4 the perfect number of chars for me

[supple parrot]

U literally can’t run out of gold

It’s not possible

[silver bison]

no way i can play more 5 or 6 again

[supple parrot]

[thorn sluice]

Sounds good , the guy honed akkan weapon 25 with bounds

[cursive ruin]

yeah

with a credit card bound to his bank account

[fresh flint]

[tulip charm]

[thorn sluice]

Noo bro , f2p semi gatekept investor

[tulip charm]

✂️

[thorn sluice]

100% f2p++++

[fresh flint]

Oh the giga skin broker

[supple parrot]

I mean. U can literally calculate how much bound leaps u get per week. Calculate how much gold u get

And see how possible it is

To just hone with bounds

[cursive ruin]

what about orehas

[thorn sluice]

Bound ore has

[supple parrot]

Use the gold to buy them. U literally get too much gold

[fresh flint]

[supple parrot]

U can’t run out via just honing

U get a lot left over

[thorn sluice]

What about life energy

[supple parrot]

What u mean life energy

[thorn sluice]

What to do with it

[tulip charm]

this is too complicated, if you have bounds, click the honing button

its very simple

[bold aspen]

unless you 1 tap you are never honing +25 with bounds

[supple parrot]

I just collect strong hold mats daily rest energy just goes to waste

Not worth my time to do it. And it’s boring

[silver bison]

isnt +25 like

.3% artisan per tap

or some shit

[thorn sluice]

We have the god

[bold aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/meek-mill-gif-13769592

[thorn sluice]

[supple parrot]

I mean it is really just that simple. But these ppl here don’t even play the game and they don’t understand some leaps everyday adds up to a lot in a month

Akkan been out for like what 7 or 8 months? The amount of bound mats u get in that time is insane

[silver bison]

+25 with bounds is kinda a stretch tho still

Unless u got some good luck

[supple parrot]

No one said anything about 25 off bound cept wrekk. Who literally swiped for it

[silver bison]

O

[bold aspen]

wrekk the swipe god

[silver bison]

1600 with bounds thoo for sure

[bold aspen]

[supple parrot]

1620 off bounds is very possible

At this point

[silver bison]

yea prob

[supple parrot]

I mean I literally have alts that hit 1620 off just bound

As have other ppl here

[mighty hawk]

I'm so epic rn

[silver bison]

Pm5

Ez

[bold aspen]

the cost of +25 pity holy fuck

[mighty hawk]

Yep I'm stuck on 1565 main and can't take it anymore

[silver bison]

Even average

Is wild

[cedar zealot]

just dont pity

[tulip charm]

@uneven mortar you should srsly hone armor to all +21 for a garanteed thaemine hm group

[bold aspen]

like im ever going for +25

[bold aspen]

yep

[silver bison]

Ull get there eventually

[uneven mortar]

no way man i got burned out from valt ex lol

[frail shard]

lets go brandon

[silver bison]

Dont burn ur self out grinding

[cedar zealot]

you will get 1650+ wep next year like everyone else

[uneven mortar]

people keep dying due to random shit on a content that spams 3 fuckin skill

can you imagine these people doing thaemine?

[supple parrot]

I mean that’s pity, without any juice. And only 10k leaps. Not that bad tbh. Takes 10k leap to hit 1620-1630. And I’m almost there via bounds

[cedar zealot]

always do it the efficient way

[bold aspen]

next year

[uneven mortar]

im abt to go full time investor

[bold aspen]

you mean full time swipe for skins and sell them ?

[uneven mortar]

buy low sell high

[bold aspen]

[buoyant wagon]

Code chuan

[bold aspen]

expensive af

[buoyant wagon]

5% off your next order

[uneven mortar]

bro i was so fucking tilted

oh my god

[frail shard]

i hope only me that always get tilted whenever chuan said "bounds only"

[uneven mortar]

their support just cant fucking live

[frail shard]

"10k leaps only"

"not that bad tbh"

[tulip charm]

maybe, but it feels wasted to be doing normal with a +25 weapon on a very imbalanced class

[uneven mortar]

can you imagine being the support player to hell mode players and still cant finish valtan

[tulip charm]

might as well attempt to clear hm week 1, or failing that, 12h3n

[uneven mortar]

3 of the team was demon hunters doing 18-21m

but come ghost time

one of the supp always die

and the second one follows suit

thats when i realize, this game is fucked, only koreans are willing to get put through wringer like this

[buoyant wagon]

You realize

This is every raiding game at the high end of difficulty

1 death = restart

Even with battle res

[uneven mortar]

yeah, im too old to be spending too much time thats why im skipping these extreme difficulty contents

im skipping thae hm

ill do echidna hm when we're severely overgear

where 1-2 death doesnt matter

ill prolly pay for the thae hm transcendence unlock

[buoyant wagon]

This is why you don’t pug lol

[silver bison]

Im glad i did hell mode now lol made ex valt a breeze for me

[uneven mortar]

people dying tilts me too much man

[silver bison]

But yea im not touching thae hm either even if i was 1630

[uneven mortar]

double tilt when its the fuckin support

lol

[silver bison]

not worth the pain

[buoyant wagon]

Pugging any higher difficulty raids in mmos is almost always a waste of time

Because no accountability for skill levels

[uneven mortar]

like i dont want to be screaming at people on discord

[buoyant wagon]

This game doesn’t have public logs either

Not that they would be that useful

[uneven mortar]

how do you ensure your static of 8 people have 8 great players

[buoyant wagon]

Given class balance disparities and gear disparities

[silver bison]

Its only so bad here becausw

[uneven mortar]

you can't

[cursive ruin]

j\

[uneven mortar]

your static of 8 people

[silver bison]

Raids solo way to vertical

[buoyant wagon]

It’s not hard to have a static of 8 good players

[uneven mortar]

have 1-2 shitters

ALWAYS

[buoyant wagon]

You kick the ones that suck

[silver bison]

Other mmos have alternative gearing paths

[buoyant wagon]

And be unapologetic about it

[uneven mortar]

unless you're a static of brel deathless

[silver bison]

And dont make u feel forced to 6 chars x3 raids a week

[tulip charm]

you don't, but after many hours youd expect the mechs to stick eventually and after a few hours it sticks forever

[uneven mortar]

like what mizu did,

[buoyant wagon]

You’re not in a static for friendship unless that’s the stated purpose of it

[uneven mortar]

play with hell players

[buoyant wagon]

You’re in it to clear content

[uneven mortar]

youre guaranteed top 1% of the player

[cursive ruin]

finding a static when ur african is a challenge cuz it's like there's 2 timezones with the outages

[buoyant wagon]

If someone is not pulling their weight they get replaced

[silver bison]

lol i have a SA friend playing nae and he gets blackouts all the time

[buoyant wagon]

There should be no hard feelings over booting someone who consistently cannot perform

[silver bison]

its so rip

[cursive ruin]

It's so dumb

We're in the same timezone? Okay great, when do you get your outages?

And suddenly

Our day now starts at like 6 pm

[silver bison]

Yea we have an eu guy too

Who does voldis with the sa guy and sometimes the outages

f it up

[cursive ruin]

It's not random it has its times but

It's kinda lame

[tulip charm]

you should not assume this
ive seen people make a big deal over stuff like this, and sometimes they drag other people with them

[buoyant wagon]

Statics only get problematic when people go into it with friends but some of them are far less skilled players who end up sandbagging everyone else

[uneven mortar]

youre describing every single static

lol

[buoyant wagon]

Then it gets awkward over whether to try to drag the dead weight players through or disband

[uneven mortar]

its pretty rare for static like powdersnow's to exist

just saying ay mate not good enough

lets replace you

but thats prolly cause they do want that first

[hidden jay]

Statics only get problematic when there's an egoistic egirl in them

[cursive ruin]

I think u kinda have to establish that from the very beginning of ur guild

[buoyant wagon]

There’s redeemable underperformers

[supple parrot]

Mizu is not even 1620 bruh. He is doing normal mofes

[buoyant wagon]

And there’s unredeemable ones

[uneven mortar]

no man, i mean how hes playing hell contents

hes doing hell clown and shit

[buoyant wagon]

Redeemable ones usually know their class but are just slower to pick up mechs

[uneven mortar]

if mizu has the gear he will be playing with group fo demon hunters

those guys pumps

[cursive ruin]

Like if I ever make a guild imma keep it a stack from the beginning that if u underperform constantly you wont be part of the weekly raid group

[buoyant wagon]

Unredeemable ones usually are behind in both class knowledge and mechs

And require far too much time or don’t have the mental fortitude or willingness to improve

[pearl knot]

if you want a good static i know someone who pugged and just asked if the good players if they wanted to reclear together sometimes he got responce sometimes not and he slowly built a static just asking random pug that were good slowly

[supple parrot]

What u have to understand is. As long as u put in the time. No content in this game is hard if u have a group that stick together then u can clear all content. U can train 8 monkeys to do all raids include hell mode. Just takes longer

[pearl knot]

i think took a few weeks but we had a solid static for a few months before players quit

[cursive ruin]

sorcs/strikers in pug learning groups

Dude we had an absolute giga chad zerk and reaper in our learning group yesterday just hard carrying the dps like no tomorrow... and a 160 roster slayer performing worse than my SE friend who's been playing for like 1 month now

[uneven mortar]

i dont have the time and energy anymore, after that 4 hours valt ex i was so tempted uninstall esp with how close we ewre to killing it

[cursive ruin]

We still got jailed g2

Cuz p1 supp couldn't do lantern and rage quit

[buoyant wagon]

Having 8 people on the same page isn’t that difficult in a static

But it requires some ruthless decision making if it has to come to it

[bitter lichen]

and natural intellect

[supple parrot]

That’s just bad mentality

[buoyant wagon]

You have to draw the line at what is a reasonable accommodation for the underperformers and slower learners

And replace them when it’s past the point of reasonableness

Static doesn’t mean you must drag bad players through no matter what

[cursive ruin]

So true king

Holy shit I can't

I think I'm going to go smoke a shisha tomorrow this is unbearable

[tulip charm]

hmm, hones are not hitting this week at all

wtf? fish went back up to 70? it was 50 last week

[neat swan]

must be those damn bot purges

130 on euc still

[buoyant wagon]

Orehas haven’t budged

[cursive ruin]

Imagine haording fish

Real chads hoard honor shards

[supple parrot]

Remember when all the ppl here were buying fish at 100 saying it will go back to 300

And I said it will drop more but ppl won’t listen to me

As per usual

[cursive ruin]

it'll go back up when purge

surely

[queen grail]

Holy shit, I'm way to good at this game Had to counter + do mid dragon since the dps don't know clock spots

[cedar zealot]

we need more ppl like u

[queen grail]

Yes we do

[delicate sandal]

ur wrong

dh is just x slayer basically

and u can get it on the floor

[tulip charm]

wait wat??? this isn't my elixir, but i thought this option CANNOT appear if all 3 lines is sealed

[delicate sandal]

when i get dh in ex valtan im not being impressed tbh

basically a better dbs in ex valtan

[bold aspen]

huh wtf

[tulip charm]

nvm, his just trolling, its a garanteed 5/5, he sealed then took screenshot

[bold aspen]

[keen copper]

@cursive ruin https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/s/WOrTaQ6qGE is this ur alt Reddit acc or what

5x scouters

[bold aspen]

[cursive ruin]

Nop. I'm making x6 arti

[burnt tree]

Somehow that's worse

[neat swan]

"somehow"

[burnt tree]

That's worse*

[cursive ruin]

I would explain but I'm on my phone and cba rn

[burnt tree]

Explain dn

[tulip charm]

its kanima's disciple following in his footsteps

[supple parrot]

Arti kinda need lv9 cd gems now. Preferably lv10s

[neat swan]

😐

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

honor pouch price dropping

https://tenor.com/view/crying-frustration-anger-black-guy-crying-sadness-gif-25630772

[frail shard]

just rmt

[supple parrot]

Ofc. Only whales need them. Normal player would never run out of shards

And whales prob don’t even need em ne more cuz they done honing

[neat swan]

I need them buddy

😐

mail them over

[paper wharf]

How much item level do i need in order to find the 7th ark?

[neat swan]

1460

[cursive ruin]

I don't know what the fuck is an elixir bruh

[frail shard]

theres no 7th ark yet

[neat swan]

eugene? are you ok?

[frail shard]

i am eugene not okay

[neat swan]

we find the 7th in elgacia

[frail shard]

?

kaynagnel is a dungeon

[neat swan]

😐

[cursive ruin]

What

[rugged lynx]

incorrectgene

[thorn sluice]

7th ark

[frail shard]

just rmt for knowelsdeg trasnfer

wym

[tulip charm]

armen's mom is the 7th ark

[wind dagger]

[cursive ruin]

Suddenly I really want the 7th ark

[wind dagger]

no me

I'm a milf hunter

[tulip charm]

[wind dagger]

[urban obsidian]

@burnt tree why are regarded kids on tiktok trying to hate on le sserafim for filming an mv in a church that an infinte amount of other thingsh ave been filmed in

[cursive ruin]

Holy shit I just had a stroke

Thsnks mizu

[neat swan]

who??

[fresh flint]

You want a dead decaying corpse?

[ancient tundra]

Midzu go to sleep bro

[urban obsidian]

what

i j8ust woke up

[ancient tundra]

It s 7 in the morning

Tho

Who wakes up at 7 on a Sunday

[fresh flint]

Fuego shut ur pie hole

[ancient tundra]

Na u shut lil bitch

[urban obsidian]

ppl who physically cant sleep for longer then 4-5 hours

[fresh flint]

Ur mam

[ancient tundra]

[fresh flint]

Also it’s 6am fuego get it right

[dull obsidian]

@urban obsidian

[urban obsidian]

@dull obsidian

https://tenor.com/view/yapper-yap-yapping-yuuka-hayase-yuuka-gif-13901751885714906186

[dull obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/784884307012878367.gif?v=1

[rugged lynx]

actually its 10:25pm

[fresh flint]

No it’s 6:25am

[dull obsidian]

Imagine not being 11:25PM

[urban obsidian]

imagine not being in a tft game wit me rn

[ancient tundra]

Same thing

[rugged lynx]

ehefh well aktooally its 10:26pm now

[urban obsidian]

like wya ishy

[fresh flint]

Time is linear

[thorn sluice]

Why don’t you play only lostark

[fresh flint]

aaaaahkshually it’s 6:26:37s now!

[cedar zealot]

is that tft

[rugged lynx]

well aaaaahkshually

i didn't ask

[ancient tundra]

Where is the dude that always comes to doom about lost ark ?

[fresh flint]

Ur mam

[rugged lynx]

damn got me there

[thorn sluice]

[ancient tundra]

Like say it s dog shit then leave

[fresh flint]

[urban obsidian]

@dull obsidian come vc

coach me

frfr

[fresh flint]

Pinpelleo

[ancient tundra]

Ty chris

[thorn sluice]

[fresh flint]

The arti?

[dull obsidian]

I am

watching Log Horizon

[cursive ruin]

Woah spoilers

[urban obsidian]

wdf

fuck you

[queen grail]

Slayer.
Joins Ivory.
Makes lots of mistake.
Enters G4.
Fails more.
Plays on Laptops.
Leaves.

I love it

[thorn sluice]

[fresh flint]

This is super early in the story it’s not spoilers

[cedar zealot]

why is the "plays on laptops" a point here

[thorn sluice]

He might not be playing with mouse

[queen grail]

Because the idiot made multiple mistakes and blamed it on the lag due to his shit laptop.

[thorn sluice]

But with the touch pad

[queen grail]

If you know your laptop is that shit, how about? DONT ENTER INTO RAIDS.

[cedar zealot]

i see

[cedar zealot]

that sounds worse than controllers

[thorn sluice]

It is xD

[queen grail]

Also, people still running to the far edge with shark mech G4 Ivory.

Stop.

Just stop.

[thorn sluice]

There are poor people in the world , why should they not be able to play the game

[tulip charm]

What is shark mech?

[queen grail]

Play the game all you want, but enter into a raid you know will lag you to the point where you can't play is just a scumbag I want to be carried move.

[tulip charm]

these names lol

[urban obsidian]

@dull obsidian IM PLAYING JAX FRFRFRR

[tulip charm]

Also, if this is g4hm your jailed in, good luck escaping

[urban obsidian]

[tulip charm]

U might be doomed

[queen grail]

Bruh, slayer left, we got some random shadowhunter, one-shot the boss.

[buoyant wagon]

holy fuck finally done, 53%

[urban obsidian]

not even +25

[buoyant wagon]

[urban obsidian]

not even 1650

[queen grail]

You really don't know?

The mech, that has tiny sharkfins looking things follow you while you have to move away and aim a mech outwards so you don't blast your team

[urban obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

there goes your funding for your +25 weapon

i was seriously considering it but

i changed my mind

[urban obsidian]

wtf

[buoyant wagon]

[urban obsidian]

nyoooo

my +25 wep

[queen grail]

Ultra whale, grats.

[urban obsidian]

alright its time for me to win

[queen grail]

I'm never jailed, I break free.

[cedar zealot]

you are so cool sere

now fund me a 1600 lopang

[buoyant wagon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/840016383394709545/1207595463465893898/image0.gif

[cedar zealot]

i really hope they didnt miscommunicate with us yet again

and the new progression events are separate

and not just the old ones

[urban obsidian]

what

excpress and road are always seperate

[cedar zealot]

not in kr anymore

if they give us kr's current express

it has road integrated into it

but ags implied ours would be separate

which means it could be the old version kr got

express upto 1540 and road upto 1610

ags in their article mentioned express would go upto 1580

thaemine road will help with ilvl after that

[uneven mortar]

im just so glad

i completed lost ark

[wind dagger]

[queen grail]

Nice missinfo name

[cedar zealot]

not yet u havent

need +8 esther for that

[wind dagger]

Bound only btw

[thorn sluice]

with your drops luck you will achieve it soon

who need some silvers

[crude igloo]

you lol

[bitter lichen]

me

[buoyant wagon]

1648 next to me but doesnt have 35 set elixir

[cedar zealot]

[wind dagger]

[rapid compass]

hey guys wanna ask. does pub judge people roster lv & server where that player applying from? having hard time going in pub akkan

[cedar zealot]

a lot of people do

[uneven mortar]

most of them kinda wants los 30

and roster lvl

[cedar zealot]

low roster level / being on a jump start server

these are the two things some vets dont wanna deal with in their reclear lobbies in pf

[rapid compass]

thats sad thou

[cedar zealot]

it is

if that applies to you, i suggest making your own groups

[rapid compass]

i realise getting 200 roster above is very easily get in

[wind dagger]

[rapid compass]

but most of them are players that played long time and their skills are so-so

[cedar zealot]

200+ helps compared to someone in the low 100s

[rapid compass]

encounter a few but not much

[cedar zealot]

sometimes these people are account buyers

[buoyant wagon]

it's the vicious cycle of

get jailed by low roster = gatekeep low roster

low roster players eventually get to high roster

then get jailed by low roster

and perpetuate the cycle

[rapid compass]

what is the acceptable roster lv to get in?

im on 171 on a JS

[dull obsidian]

Most people above 200 seem to have semi-functioning hands

so they're taken

[uneven mortar]

thats how the game is made i guess, even old content can jail

[buoyant wagon]

171 probably isnt the reason why you get denied

its the jumpstart server

[dull obsidian]

ye lmao

Azakiel stigma still here

I still gatekeep Azakiel too

[buoyant wagon]

people dont like jumpstart

because of the implication new = less skilled

[bitter lichen]

at least server merge soon

[dull obsidian]

Oh I tried to give JS players a chance

all 6 times we got jailed in Kayangel

[cedar zealot]

it'll get better after 200

[buoyant wagon]

i look at js player parses

almost always they are a massive disappointment

significantly lower than everyone else

[wind dagger]

[buoyant wagon]

even accounting for cards

[wind dagger]

that's obvious

[cedar zealot]

but u always have to compete with people who been playing a year more than u

[dull obsidian]

yeh but when you're 1600 and you're pulling 1.5m DPS in Kayangel as a souleater

something is not right

[cedar zealot]

u have to make up for it in build/cards

[dull obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

you either be a support

[rapid compass]

thats jus sad

[buoyant wagon]

or you overgear

that's just the reality of things

sort of like real life job applications

[dull obsidian]

Don't worry in about 5 months

Jumpstart 2.0 will happen

[buoyant wagon]

you either have a skill that is extremely in demand or you are overqualified

[dull obsidian]

and in about 7-8 months

Jumpstart 2.0 Gatekeep

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-yostars-nexon-korea-south-korea-gif-7743678108870072357

[cedar zealot]

nowadays, if anyone wants to start, i always advice them to play sup

only

[buoyant wagon]

you mean

just buy an account

except that's against tos

[cedar zealot]

or that

[dull obsidian]

I've seen so amny account buyers

LMAO

[buoyant wagon]

the inherent game design is miserable enough that buying an account is almost necessary to mitigate it

[wind dagger]

Game is doomed for new players

you either catch the train or

[dull obsidian]

I mean a lot of the time

[wind dagger]

miss

[dull obsidian]

new players also just refuse to play with new players

[buoyant wagon]

dooming on the new player experience in this game has always been a valid doomer take

[buoyant wagon]

part of that is also due to game design

everything has a gold opportunity cost here

spending 4 hours struggling in ff14 with noobs doesnt really cost you progression

here its 4 hours you could have spent doing other gold earning activities

[queen grail]

How dare you ask me to play with new bad players, I'm new, but I'm super good at the game, I swear, I know what the fight is all about, and I do like, many dps.

[wind dagger]

I think because the core of the game is raiding, it's just... if you didn't start raiding two years ago, there's nothing you can do to catch up quickly with skills

[dull obsidian]

Ok but 99.95% of Azakiel players have 3cpm

..

[wind dagger]

[buoyant wagon]

there is no benefit to taking bad/new players, in fact it actively penalizes you in terms of making gold

[dull obsidian]

We took an Azakiel support because we were waiting too long in Akkan NM PF during dead hours

it ended up just being 7c1

supportless party

[wind dagger]

Lost Ark has an open world, but it's not an open world game despite it being perfectly capable of being one (selfie mode)

[buoyant wagon]

for some reason lauriel supports here are decent

[wind dagger]

3D is beautiful to explore

[buoyant wagon]

but i suspect they are alt roster gold farmers

lauriel dps though

yikes

[dull obsidian]

Dude

1600 Souleater with lvl 9 gems

doing 1.5m DPS

I no longer take Azakiel players

they got hit by literally everything in Kayangel too

We should've left at g1

[uneven mortar]

yeah the gameplay loop is absolute horrendous

[buoyant wagon]

if the game lets you gatekeep, players will gatekeep

it is what it is

[uneven mortar]

cause la dont have anything except raiding

[dull obsidian]

oh

[wind dagger]

wrekk has 25 weapon

[dull obsidian]

wrekk hit 25?

[uneven mortar]

yep

[wind dagger]

[uneven mortar]

[wind dagger]

ok

[dull obsidian]

Clothing store sales had a big boom this month

you don't understand

[uneven mortar]

48%

[wind dagger]

[uneven mortar]

the rates absolute horrendous

anniversary is so cheap rn