#lost-ark-discussions
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eso wd 73% damn
S tier 

not sure, closed twitter by accident when i went to check
gimme min to find it again
I recognize the art, but don’t remember.
echinas enicha
I voted S

Noice, a tiny corpa drop, finally after some dry times.
@silver hollow
holy

Silly people, after the change to spear and auto-attack on bear CO is not that cancer anymore.
common bard L
Paladin 
Easiest dps class in the game rn
Asdfwer wait for cd asdfwer
i don't get why artist has more votes
maybe because there are more artists then pala
Not sure If I'd call eso wd the easiest to play, but each to their own.
Artist Is a rreally good overall support.
And with the changes she just got even better.
WD is pretty easy
👍 i didn't know it is that well perceived
Large radius on her buff field, double cleanse, high shield, great mitigation field like Rapsody/Law and great brand skill with easy to land field and high uptime.
Since the qol it's just very modern and easier
I landed my fattest brutal impacts playing with artists
let's say hitmaster classes are easier one
bard rework
It's better after the changes to a tripod since we finally got some form of immunity, but your rotation can be disrupted pretty easy still, compared to something like demonic that enters form and faceroll with no care in the world 
I mean dish is easy sure
how is predator easier then those 2 classes
because you could front attack and do more dmg
Robust is also simple af compared.
And you got push immunity on your synergy so no fear of being interrupted.

while also being tankier, high ass stagger, high destro, high mobility, mostly low cds
Plus wd isn't entropy anymore unless u do the laz execute build
bruh an easy entropy class can be easier then transformation clkasses
what did you smoke xD
?
It has 3 dashes in kit and fast animations
you also literally do more damage than the other 2
evolutionary legacy have full para immunity and just smash keyboard with skills and shields klekw
by face attacking
pred is mobile af and has high range on most of her skills, she's as faceroll as an entropy class can get
maybe that why i though she was boring
highest dmg for lowest effort possible
not saying is hard
and is swift
so has low cds
that's amother thjing bruh
all are faceroll classes
I think SLayer is not that op as people think
cause teh average slayer is shit
in terms of hands
🤣
slayer cant get punished
Hmm I'd still give the edge to eso wd for ease but pred is definitely better sticking and spam
FFFW-Form-AQERDS - Sleep. WAQERDS - Walk in circles for 15 seconds thinking about why did you pick Robust. 
it also has 0 problems with stagger/destruction checks
even if the predator slayer is shit you still probably would rather have them on pred slayer than anything else
easy counter
no
does this make a class easy or hard 
if the slayer is zdps
DI SH and Evo doesn't have all of this
I don't want them
it makes it easy?
That's, because the average player is shit 
Supports with 40% brand uptime.
ong
Cause eso wd has very good floor DMG from the ease of rotation
Entropy with 50% backattack.
how you play those 2 classes make them easier
i mean if you're stuck with them they'll do better on pred slayer than almost anything else
ofc you wouldnt want them in your group
nah, it's a vote quit and yeet them angle
you need to know boss patterns and activate brain to use entropy in general
that's like imagine you're stuck with a bronze toplaner in league, you're better off with them playing Garen than anything else
Surely punisher gets 69% dmg buff next patch
You know what's easy to play?
@obtuse oyster
Surely slayer gets echidna physics next patch
Barrage Arti

Yes, that too.

But mine was more ironic, and was going to say TTH @obtuse oyster
Click 500 buttons, do the same damage as Slayer does in 5 
I haven't seen a TTH in like months
can we plz get a female paladin
It's pretty nice actually now.
is it rly so fukin hard to change genders for a class
But, if you get interrupted during any of your two main snipes, you lose 100-200mil dmg 
First Korean game?
and i want a femboi aritst
You know if we get male artist, It's going to look like Shandi.
yoda?
That's why hitmaster dps like se and eso wd r so good
That would just be se
You mean zerker? 


Better than zerker 
I could prolly pull off a cosplay of that 

Tesla is like two sidereal
sidereal better
I’d buy one, but there isn’t a place for me to charge it at home.

Unfair comparison
Model 3 Teslas are pretty cheap.
i saw a guy with same name but slayer +25
i got a y performance
i knew it
I knew it
you whale
@obtuse oyster You think the bard has 10's?
I haven't inspected yet.
I think ppl usually get the one with longer battery life
Which is like 90 I think?
no

Eh, like 75k iirc
🧑🚀 🚀
i never go out to eat and i dont pay for any entertainment
Fully loaded like fancy rims and everything is not more than 80k last I checked.
always the scuffed grass quality people asking for people to carry them, when will the madness stop 
never
Just passed 20 min on spida island to run out of time on boss. Anyone want my account with gem 10 ?
3 sp wd?
? Huh.
y performance is under $50k usd after tax credit

what's that xD
supports always in demand, so people will take any support with a pulse
I don't know what 3 sp wd is 
Yeah, you can get a lot of breaks on it due to it being an EV.
rav4 hybrid is like $40k
Ok that's valid comparison
sometimes without a pulse if they are super desperate
There is only 4 spender 
3 sp is good
My father is planning to buy model Y version
i only buy a car like every 10 years
get the long range atleast
Go say that in the Wardancer channel.
I'm sure they could use a good laugh 
already did many times
they flame me 
i did a 3sp propaganda in wd channel
It still is usable u just get 15% more DMG for adding the 4th
it'as good also now
full swift with 1 ring spec and spec swift neck
Oh lord @obtuse oyster this grp declined my Robust for Kaya, and instead grabbed a sorc, they wanted to carry someone I see
Imagine thinking sorc's land stuff in Kaya in 2024.

No it still has to be half half to get clean rotation
For 3. The 800 is troll it relies on too many ec ticks

But after u get new pieces it's better to switch to full spec
4 spender is full spec.
And 4 spender
for 3sp you need to spam also the gauge skill SSB
You cap on move spd still and you got a push immunity now that you didn't before, so you know, It's ok'ish.
@thorn sluice Nice 3 spender guide

Ye, but It's still on one of the lower dmg spells
If It was just on Azure It would be poggers.
BEST GUIDES ARE HIDED
That guide was incorrect
You don't want ticks of ec
To interrupt smooth faceroll
it's correct
Old outdated guide.
No for 3 spender u still needed old spec ratio
i run cd

I was playing 3 spec until I found the accessory to switch to 4
but im stronger now
Agreed 
Merge Wind and Roar and give them Para immunity so we can free up a slot for Kick to move around 
and every 3sp i saw have this build
Yes but it's another 15% to switch to 4
nerf zerk nerf arti
wdym 15% to switch into 4
Nerf reaper 
needs buff 
Yea mass is just for budget.
I run this 
it's also written that 3sp is equally good as 4sp in trixtion

It is but u have to hump
@thorn sluice My quality is cracked but my spec is just over 1800 because of my bracers.
where's 5x3+2
Shuss, I'll rather take cracked quality than cut more stones.
Fucks up rotation.
Still can't believe I snagged that 4/3 neck for 2k
@obtuse oyster It's so nice.
@prime wind do you have a link for 3sp guide
gz

I'm never changing build unless we get a higher tier of whatever 
Or a patch somehow drastically changes something I guess.
It's basically same as 4 spender but lightning kick to stick and ec at 10 instead of 7
Best change to Wardancer 
i hate this skill, never crit

huh.

boi? thats scalp

Just keep the old 1000/1350 ratio for 3 spender. But seriously consider switch to 4 and 1793 spec
Qol > trixion
Male class 
i know i have to oneday, i already did lvl 5 tripods for 4 sp
but atm i can't use gold / pheons for 1600 alt

Ye it's all good
and spec accs are expensive
I understand I was there
i usually build with high quality
As long as u hit the magic number u will be good
just upgrade your gems 
can't decide between all the SH PS builds on nexus
i should upgrade my bard gems
Scalps opinion sus he said shock scrapper was good and what is he now?
i met alot of players who got burned out by demonic and want to play PS
I remember when he wasn't gonna swap to tai

it's very cool my only point against entropy is that backattack dependancy is kinda toxic and they will eventually want to remove the necessity of chasing front/back
false
they never said anything about removing front and back attacking
just changing the armor set entropy
I already run a pred slayer and i love it, not sure if I should go entropy PS
also has mana issues
I think
hit master is nightmare set
they should give people standard a 4x3 build
sad life of non-nightmare build if you play heavy swift
instead of seeing players with salad engravings stats
Hopium
you mean the experience of playing it ?
In general
Not lost ark exclusively
agree'ed
just makes the game a hassle for a lot of classes with no real reason
when shit like SE and Breaker exist
because mana itself was for when they game didn't have 100 other forms of balance, gearing and stat bonuses.
and hadn't added a bunch of classes that ignore it.
Bosses don’t have mana so we shouldn’t
tl;dr outdated system that needs tweaking because it doesn't scale with the atk speed increase Yearning + bonuses + runes + gems + elixirs etc. adds
SH PS entropy full swift is the way to go then right? XD
imagine playing a class that has mana 
they just rework dom to not be a stupid buff timer
and it just last for the whole fight and it doesn't reduce your ultimate dmg
then remove all sets, sets just increase damage anyway
removing boundless would break Arcana,
they could remove boundless, keep the damage bonus aspects of addiction since it's tied to awakening and make it instead based on awakening cd instead of MP bar- but they'd have to change base damage of Arcana .
SE has mana issues tho, 
It's easier tweaking an existing system then just ripping everything up and making something new
Arcana could run dom, problem is the mana issues
which why they run nightmare
i think its more complicated than that
Honesty nightmare without boundless (and mana bonuses duh) kinda just sounds like dominion so nvm
pretty much, expect you don't have the play the dumb minigame
of maintaining boundless or going into addicted for burst
You mean of "HOW MUCH MANA!" shouted like an 80s tv game show
You don't like edging your mana bar?
pretty sure most berserker mains enjoy gooning.
truuuue, and then q.qing whenever I get an artist party
fun game SG 
using HB off cooldown and slayer was still burning through mana with food and skill runes 💀
Edging is more fun than boundless
*Addiction
you're not SUPPOSED to cum, just get near it

Wtf toxic
🥒
ribbed for... somebody's pleasure

in this clunky metaphor, "c*m" is run out of MP
fuckk i forgot to gesbroy coop again
But, we can't all be like Zheng, and get 25 Sideral drops 
how much are clown bus prices now
is that hell ?
Normal 
no
lol o
you can see the hp bar
no skip
Just silly billy clown lives with no hp and we had to do the mech.
Slime and Medeia today
Unfare, sg should just remove all mechs
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You can remove most if you spend enough 
Just rmt like chuan
Ever since I purchased gold from "hone with bounds"TM I have achieved all my f2p goals of 25 weapon and 1640

I mean the game cadence is set up so if u just do dailies and hone u would make it
ppl play too many chars so they get burnt out by dailies and drop them then act surprised when they can’t hone
we should do hell clown, i'll explain, the guides suck 

We recommend the 1 million marvelous leap package for 3% gold efficiency bonus for personal exchange
- 50 other bonuses and perks of starting during jumpstart when they gave u free mats out of the ass

just play the game -2 years ago hoarding every bound leapstone you get(or the ones you can buy from auction house and upgrade to the latest tier so they turn bound)

Yes that mats is more than 1 year + of dailies that ppl have done if they just played one character
I need to do Ex Valtan hard 

u rn
Jump is not that old

Chuan is banned for 3 days due to rmt
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There will be penalties for such actions.
Hope u get banned for spreading misinfo
but my jumpstart character is 1584 with 1k bound leap stones i barely played
He was banned for 13 hours as per lins images
Icy plz ban chuan for 3 days as he is banned in game
The fact is I’ve never rmt. Yall don’t even play the game and act surprised when other ppl can hone with bounds and make it to 1620

I am 1650 with bounds only
Ok whale
with one char
🐋
Ok show it. Or ur getting banned for misinfo
chuan please do the ingame pose number 14 i think which is from the 50€ box to show that you're f2p 
I cant send SS on my pc

i am roster 129 with +25 akkan weapon
It just goes to show that I’m so efficient being f2p that ppl actually think I’m whale


I just honed to 25 with just bounds.
It's so simple.
You just close your eyes while swiping so It does not count, buy a bunch of lower leaps, upgrade them to higher leaps and hone.
You should all just learn this simple trick.
We just like making chuan mad 

I followed a guide, yeah if you just maximize your weapon taps you will have +25 within a couple months
@charred void Carry me Ex Valtan 
same with 40 set
I don’t get mad tho. It’s a compliment that u think i rmt or whale when im f2p
Did u stop at 21 or 22 on your main weap chuan
I dont think you rmt
It’s like the ppl that used to say I use some sort of gold hack in dota cuz I don’t miss any last hits and I have triple their econ

Average chat iq is 90/100 while Chuan is standing at 300+ 
Alchuanist
500+ 

don't think i can carry you with that
Do u think I whale?
What is this?
I don't speak computer, sorry.
Okay type up a regime. And I will follow it. If I don’t make substantial progress it’s a hoax
I will need your account info to judge this
please dm login credentials

Just do chaos 2x and hone that's all u need
thats when you wait 10 seconds until a webbrowers opens

I do x12 chaos 
I do x24

Now u know why u fail u forgot to hone
Chaos is best content tbh
Simple mistake
i do x6 and feel like unaliving myself
++++
Thank you for explaining sensei
After doing chaos and honing I too hit 1620
Literally just do dailies on ur one char that ur pushing. Funnel all roster bound event leaps to that char. Do primal for an extra 75 every week. Sell all unbounds for gold. It is so simple
And 22 weap on my lopang
I do that already. Maybe I just need to actually hone huh
Ppl rly underestimate how much those roster bound stuff add up
Yes you are hitting the button wrong
🙏 @charred void Here we go again.
Wait I miss this primal thing . You get 75 with primal island event ?
Just hone till u have no more bounds Chris it's that simple
Or, maybe not.
And use ur daily play time reward extra una every day on ur main for more leaps
When you hit the honing button you want to double click wait 1 second,. then triple click
I just don’t go to the honing npc like ever. Tbh.
For first place yes
75 radiant leaps
First place 
they aren't accepting me @charred void
Yeah that's not the chuan method gotta hone
then spin your cursor around the middle icon
I got denied.
I’m always first \ second to die 
They grabbed a paladin over Artist for Valtan EX.

Clearly they are dumb af 
I mean 2nd or 3rd is still ok

It adds up
sure, let me open steam in 30 seconds, download lost ark in 4 hours, launch the game with "error your laptop sucks sir lmao" and then get the "you already have an id cant join that group sorry" message and logout again
I mean, I'm going, my Artist Is at Valtan G2.
A lot of ppl here don’t use their bonus una on main. Don’t use roster bound leap boxes on main. When those add up to ALOT
I managed to get 2nd reward once , but 2nd counting from bottom 

C-haos
H-one
U-nas
A-lways use bounds
N-ever stop
C-haos
H-one
U-nas
A-lways use bounds
N-ever stop
They should just change the dino island to a shop where you can get all rewards either from ranking high once or multiple mid-ranks, at least that would help against all the pathetic teamers.

C-haos
H-one
U-nas
A-lways use bounds
N-ever stop
C-haos
H-one
U-nas
A-lways use bounds
N-ever stop
A couple people on my friends list haven't logged on in two days
U know with current play time event that’s been going on for months. U get 8 more bound leaps every day on one char

maybe they got banned
That is a lot

Plus all the roster bound boxes
C-haos
H-one
U-nas
A-lways rmt like chuan
N-ever stop
1620 is so free if u just funnel
What about shards
If u don’t have enuf shards then it means it’s either a new char or u never did chaos
everything in this game is free if you just rmt
Shards r rough for new chars ye
Literally impossible to runout shards as a f2p
Cuz u ain’t buying leaps
3 day timeout** my badge
timeout yeah
Ye impossible if I had the same main as always , u was zerk main , but changed to glaiv when she got reworked
3 days vacation
She was an alt
Zerk currently having 5m shards but sitting at 1560
Damn
I mean destroyer came out after glaiv. My destroyer is 1615 with 2 mil shards
If you change your main , shards are real problem 
Glaiv is old enuf where shard isn’t a problem
That’s our biggest mistakes I think
glaivier was hot garbage for 1,5 years
if I had played in Russia I would have for sure have had different mains
But I started playing it as a main and efficiently only since her buff
Exactly. Meta chasers get fucked


Breaker will be the next SE
C-rmt
H-rmt
U-rmt
A-rmt
N-rmt
If I was zerk main like I started , I was 1630+
I always do chaos rested at least on my main 6 since start of game
C-rmt
H-rmt
U-rmt
A-rmt
N-rmt
So I never run out of shards
You really never tought to swap main ?
Time is a factor. U waste ur time that’s why u are light years behind with 8k hours
Like a bozo
Yes. Zerker main since day 1
fr fr, non-f2p behavior doing rested
Its because Scalp has a bad luck seed on his account
Only getting 66% of the daily chaos rewards and still says he can hone with pure bounds to 1620, something is 🐟'y.
only poor people do chaos dungeons every day 
xd
My zerker is 1627 with 2 mil shards. And I have over a mil in roster bound boxes just sitting in storage cuz none of my char ever needs em

I sell all sellable shard bags from chaos gate


Omg
ok 

one easy trick to turn unbound mats to bound mats 
Ya I sold like 200 bags when they got to 1k


What lvl is Zheng on nae
be t3 day 1, sell unbound leapstones from 24/7 chaos dungeon for 1k to whales, call himself f2p 
Deathboi jealous cuz not efficient
I want you to make a f2p playstyle guide 
ags has to be taking a piss with bots because wtf is this even
Zheng don’t play nae. He raids on all his lopangs on naw
Coward
He don't wanna raid with the cool kids
its free if you have infinite naw gold
Scalp enjoys his role as a pocket support too much
That’s a good idea u should make a video guide based on all my teachings
It will help the mokokos


U gotta do that ur self
Do an interview with him
I’ve given all the info here
It's more fun if u invite chuan and Lin to talk
Lin is whale tho. He had full 10s since vykas
And always 25 weapon every tier
Not like me. Had full 5s
Then 7s
Then slowly progress to 9s and 10s
then boosting apes for "a month or 2"
I have a question , do you save all tradable leaps or do you sell some / all whenever they increases their price ?
then it was a year
For example breaker release
maybe I should buy the new gunslinger skin after all.
gunslinger trashcan
Gunslingers are strong.
strong at being a crit syn 
She's ready to fuck everyone up on the MVP meter 
Confirmed , GS = high sex drive
true

need cd buffs
im doing 1 tap per day
why play gunslinger when you can play <___>
or just wait for buff like glaivier mains 
Just run a lot of raids in the fastest time possible, open all your chests, hone with bounds and loot some stuff every week, ez f2p gaming style
Make note of friends who ahvent logged in their char for 2 days
they are banned
#trustmebro
@queen grail how many days didnt i login now
fayten confirmed banned
Loser.
send me your gold
ye not like i can login on a toaster right now
Chuan hasn't logged on in almost 3 days
rip 50k gold 
Na u

A new submission just hit the lost ark logo contest
Chuan is 2nd place now, he was first the pepo swipe animation is at 17
I sell them all as I get em for the most part. Sometimes I will save in case I need to use them to push for break point. Like on voldike hm release I used like 1500 unbound to hit 1620 on my main for day 1 hm. Then I sold what I didn’t need
But I went with a party with a stagger bot
skill issue
Nice solo
Its sooooomuch easier
With a stagger bot
With a gl doing constantly stagger
Its incredible easier
You skip a lot of mechs
Bro soloed extreme hard
and you have free dps basically
46 hours in the guy finally cleared valtan EXTREME(boring)
46 hours of me not trying valtan extreme
Try to pugg it
No
People constantly dying in ghosts
thats like 4 USD
Now next week
From hellenwong
Another 40 hours
glad you're having fun in lost ark™
I will pass this good news along.
om
The rewards is just too good, even if you don’t wanna out in the effort to do hardmode, run normal for a fast loot chest
the 250 r leaps are pretty good
to go with a good party next week
Anyone can rush me valtan hell?
I only want the clear title
Took me 6 hours of ex valtan hm before I cleared, most people did it in 2-10 hours from what I saw here
Really?
The problem is the dps
A party incredible powerful
Can skip all the mechs

Yea your 45hour is a big outlier, it is what it is but something is very wrong in your pt
is <1hour good too?
I was pugging
Every single party was a new progress
Reaching ghost phase
at in a minute = 4 death
Our 6 hour clear was a victory we did it in a pt that’s not normal, 1 sf, 2 bard, 0 gunlancer
What can I do there?
you will be surprised how many times ppl die in axe jail
looks pretty normal
u should be abel to tell quick if the party is exp or not, if ppl are getting hit by inside/outside, not going to cardinals on spin, getting hit by crosses, then im just gonna go find a new group
damn, he can finally stop complaining about valtan pugs..... until reset
people skip valtan on their 1620 gigachad get mad about valtan with more health where they cant skip mechanics, shocking
if ur pugging
now that i get the first time reward i can chill
Huh? Every pt have a gun lancer and 2 paladins, or 1 paladin 1 artist
om
or u will waste a lot of time with groups that is too far from clearing
two whole days 
They key thing is the cardinals
If you can place the poop in the cardinals
The party has a high chance to do it
did it on nae with 2 bards no cleanse, tho it was normal
the slow is very easy to dodge, u just lose dps
If you start seeing pooping the things all over the place
You can see that party did not have ghost exp
If I saw one party like that, I went off
nah, I've seen double bard no cleanse class, artist + pally, bard and gl + pally/artist, double artist, double pally, double gl + bards
Pooping the things in NESW is the most usefull tip
You open bible, realize half your team barely does 12m before ghost phase
Vote quit out

if u pug and u only look at ur own char then ur setting ur self up for failure, u have to look at every one and quickly get a gauge of where the group is at, and decide if u dip or not

dip angle if the same guy is always dying to the same shit
nothing is chaning for the next 10 pulls
ayo my 1581 control glaivier does about that in kayangel
nah if ppl are getting hit by normal patterns
even if they dont die
its a dip angle
cuz chances of them faling is too high
i learned to just follow people during mechs n stuff that i dont know
Dip if shit dps, dip if people die to same mechs multiple times, dip if people can’t place aoes
true, if people can't do the cardinal spin. Someone is 100% dying when you get to ghost
Don’t disrespect your own time by sticking with hopeless players
Dip if they're f2p

the last group i was in is on point
but i dont think ima spend this much time anymore to clear 1-2 hrs if it dont clear ill skip
i spent 11 hours in total on ex valtan 5 on hm 6 on nm
too many random shit going on
i couldve gone out and do shit instead of playing vidya yesterday
6 on nm, om
you would be surprised how many times we spent in axe and strays dying before ghost
cant clear new gamecontent in 1 hour max, shit game 
but thats life you know keep findin the one party
It’s a learning experience since I am on bard instead of arti for the full duration of ex valtan all 6 weeks I think
But I was told arti can just ignore everything
i just dont know how some people keep dying , the boss has like 7 patterns in total he keeps repeating the same fucking 3
As a arti player you can’t rely on your supp to ignore stuff for you lol, if you can’t ignore it without a supp you gotta dodge
like not resolving counter is whatever
But I haven’t stress tested myself in this raid so I don’t know
because their valtan runs are 2 minutes and they never seen any mechanics in the last year
hmm.

that is correct

some people greed for dmg when they don't need to causing them to die, some people are clueless and aren't actually learning and playing around normal patterns, and some people are utterly hopeless and are usually getting carried every raid
Also funfact after clearing in 6 hours you realize how rare center shield break > stagger mech is lol
You almost never see it
it's basically an indicator that your dmg is slow/low
greeding dmg is dumbest shit, you get knockback you lose damage already
i didnt see 5 counters in hard and normal, no idea how that looks like

better to play slow and hit everything
Is that so? Our group only see one of the major mechs, either hellfire orbs or 4x counter, never see 2 in 1 raid
yeah, but you got some people chasing for mvp, playing for bible, or just on autopilot and thinking they are faker
if you just wait for boss to move if youre not sure, you will do good dmg even first time raid
the whole game is literally eait for boss to attack then use your skills
its been the same for the same fuckin 9 raids
how people still dont realize is beyond me
Some people’s brain is soaked in atrophine it’s just how it is
the hard part is when one braindead dies early and fuck it all up for the rest of the group
but atro is dps, time stop bad
which is why abyss raid is so good
your average player can neither do dps or mechs
you have some people who can only do dps but no mechs
and you have some people who can do mechs but no dps
Dps = Damage, sometimes, perhaps.
thats rare, there are no dps checks in the game
I had a pug run, where the guy that was dying before 2nd stage break or before ghost vocalized "I'll try to avoid dying this time since we clear if I don't die". Man proceeds to die multiple times in the same ways (100% was playing for 2nd monitor)
this is an easy raiding game for anyone who is above average
but a very hard raiding game for the average player
the variance between someone with hands and without hands is larger than in most other games

especially with gear differences and class balancing
it does mean tanking
you have to know what you can tank
hone to 1650 and tank everything, noted

greeding means u are not just moving around while dodging, ur weaving into skills with every micro adjustment
there are times when you don't need to greed because the boss is literally doing a pattern and you risk just dying for nothing or it's literally phasing and there's no reason to die for fucking dmg
That’s how it’s gonna be on cn Brel 1-4 hm
its realizing u dont need to run 5 meters to dodge a pattern
ucan just move .5 meter
and hit a skill
If your not 1640 for Brel hm, gatekept
greeding spin in valtan is probably the safest thing to do
if you dont trust your team

you can awakening skill that 
honestly understanable in ghost phase
some people are truely directionally challenge
greed the spin nonetheless
does no damage
debuff is meaningless most of the time
or move your mouse over your skill to find out which level of power armor they give 
you need to use paralysis immune to greed spin anyways


thats why. every day 1 player has min 1600 chars nowadays. ur playing with leftovers
any deaths at first shape
he's high roster.
im 80% likely to vote quit if it wipes later
Not a new guy.
Sometimes it happens
If the same person keeps dying then u gotta vote stop prob
on first tho
misplacing meteors or no pings in shandi = 100% votequit
multiple sub 4m dps also = 100% votequit
@quartz turret @sand marsh yall have voldike nm right? prob just run volidike nm tonight
i aint gettin in hm group

being ruthless with gatekeeping and leaving is how you keep your g4 hms with pugs smooth
na's biggest whale gets gatekept?
Nah I havnt done the story
What if it ends up as jail 
the last g4 brel i did, leader died to first shapes too
another guy at first 1-8 meteor placement
still cleared it
then it is what it is

vast majority of the time my g4 hms clear within 2 pulls
but the lobby is also almost always roster 200+ los30
with decently invested characters
problem is theres many decently invested char
I have a bad feeling about this…
did u clear valtan
As in they are gonna jail you in g2 or g3…
yesterday i saw sorc and summoners 1620 full 10 40 elixir dmg is no good
sorc and summoner
yeah man i hopped out abit to get some drinks clear my head and shit
@obtuse oyster Missed two bombs
Fucking boss teleport is such a trash mech.
Overgeared handsless player still does more damage on average than your run of the mill min ilvl player
then joined some random party cleared in 2 pulls
Which is why no los18 in my lobbies
still cruel.
sometimes they both do the same amount of dmg 
why level summoner to 1620 if ur not a killa at her, you think he doesn't use meter and no one told him he sucks?
90 roster pally and he plays really good
A lot of people don’t know master summ actually got a nice buff last balance patch, but most people have given up on the class long time ago

prolly chinese dude didnt say a single word but just spam emojis
clearly not a roster 300 paladin 
Prob alt roster
I wanna reach a point in the game where I gatekeep LOS30 for farm content
@obtuse oyster 
At this point LOS 18 is good enough lol
but his shield and dmg buffs are absolute on point
didnt use a single pot even though intake some hits
if I didn't know better I would've opened my 9 selectors to g et los 18
yeah prolly alt
People say gatekeeping los30 is dumb
Remember when they said we might run out of this.
Well, that was a fucking lie 
Should have done that indeed
where radiant
monke release, i invited los 30 enjoyers only, we wiped disbanded, invite 3 randoms cleared without any problems

gatekeep anything u want shorty, if u got it flaunt it 
They haven’t seen enough logs where los18 players by and large do absolutely subhuman damage for their gear
how come?
no hands 
wtf
yikes Los30 gatekeeping was like a year ago
Have you tried the brand tripod on Law? @charred void I'm trying it out on a few fights now, It's pretty decent if you know you don't "need" the radius.

if los30 does no damage then what do you gatekeep
now it’s 6% demon dmg 
demon damage 5%?


its only good(and recommended on guides) for clown inferno gate 3
5% demon is still extremely uncommon
it's kakul 
I mean, shore, but in general, It's not that bad when you know the law radius is not as needed,
makes it a bit easier too if you accidentially miss one or two brands to keep full uptime.
bro
my 1540 can sell a damage boost
Sure, you can sell, I wouldn't pay tho.
like what the
sure
3k is NA prices bro
You can’t really solo bus clown without customers knowing mech
here it's like 1.5k sometimes 1k if driver is desparate
Depends who you are
play with swords of justice, you can miss once and still have high uptime on brand, light shock miss sucks more
Thats a skill issue
or charge 1k

asking ppl to know mech
and charging 3k
How is it a skill issue if people have to do Mario lol
who on earth even does clown
You literally cannot skip Mario unless in some extremely niche situation
Both yes and no tho, light shock missing sucks, since you will be with no brand for a few seconds, but It has such a fast cd it comes back in no time, missing two light's back to back fucks you over royally and It's also no para immunity on it, don't get me wrong, I like sword too, but find the Quick Rune on Shock to overall be a bit better if you can handle the spam spam.
then charge less
since normal busses
Every bus of any type is expensive in NA ocean
dont require ppl to do mechs
get used to it bro
There are no normal solo busses for clown lol
Normal busses where u can full afk in kakul here are also like 7.5k
ye but theyre charging ppl as if its a normal buss
Not compared no.

play recharge rune on swords and godsent law
Then don’t buy it lmao
brother

well it's a damage carry and not a normal bus
ocean stop donowalling me
3k is cheap af
I'm gonna go crazy

I'm gonna punch my fucking monitor holy shit
3k is a standard dmg carry price

@charred void Is he talking shit? 
A "normal bus" for kakul costs more than the fucking raid itself
not when Brel is 4-5k
Akkan 1-3 bus is 9k and thats still relatively cheap











