lost-ark-discussions

[wind dagger]

nerf SE

[tulip charm]

they don't nerf coomer classes

meanwhile breaker already nerfed after 1 month or something

[wind dagger]

that's dumb

[copper halo]

SE got nerfed first balance patch after it's release tho

[neon cedar]

So did Slayer

[cedar zealot]

Meaningless nerf

Barely did anything

At least with reaper they sent her to the gulag

Respectable 40% nerf

With se, they chickened out

Can't be making the whales upset

[wind dagger]

Man, I don't want to do Rowen, Pleccia and Voldis back to back

[cedar zealot]

KT

I spent 30k on KT last week

[wind dagger]

Can't they just

NERF

The KT cost already?

[copper halo]

it's so dumb

[cedar zealot]

They will do it

[copper halo]

the dumbest thing to cost so much gold

[supple parrot]

SE could get a 10% nerf and still be a tier

[cedar zealot]

Next year when we are done with act 1 of lost ark

[cedar zealot]

Exactly

Same prob goes for breaker, according to KR

[supple parrot]

[cedar zealot]

And db too atm

[wind dagger]

Meanwhile Gunslinger

[cedar zealot]

The balance was already meh but now it has gone to shit

[supple parrot]

Just put official dps meter and parse into the game and u quickly see what’s up

[wind dagger]

One of my favorite classes is zdps compared to my Scrapper

[supple parrot]

But they don’t wanna balance the game

[thorn sluice]

gunslinger

[copper halo]

differences between the classes are much smaller than people think.. but since there's really no numbers anywhere people just go based on "muh feels"

[keen copper]

?

[supple parrot]

Bruh ur smoking crack

If u think the diff between se and gs

Is not 9 galaxies

[cedar zealot]

[keen copper]

theres literally numbers out there

its not feeling

[copper halo]

using one of the best and one of the worst classes as an example isn't really doing you any favors here

"see, the difference IS that big"

[cedar zealot]

Se is unbalanced, db atm is unbalanced, breaker will be unbalanced

[supple parrot]

U said the diff between classes isn’t that big. Obv then ppl will compare relative high to relative low

[cedar zealot]

These are the top 3 culprits

[supple parrot]

If u compare mid to mid then obv not much diff

[copper halo]

if you compare the top classes to the next 10 the difference isn't really all that big

[tulip charm]

That’s not how it works, the logic is, clearly se and soulfist over performing, next patch we are nerfing destroyer and arti spec scaling, see you in 3 month

[supple parrot]

Ok what about the other 10+ classes. Just fuck them?

[cedar zealot]

Let's nerf GT destroyer, one of the least played specs

Cause it's good on thaemine

[supple parrot]

So ur only comparing the top 30% of classs and say fuck the rest?

[copper halo]

no, they'll obviously get fixed if you nerf these "top classes", right?

[supple parrot]

Se and db is so far above

[cedar zealot]

They didn't get fixed the last two balance patches so

Idk

Their class balance philosophy has changed

[wind dagger]

elf?

[copper halo]

it's so expensive to reach end game now there's no point in releasing new classes anymore unless you make them op enough to make people swipe to level them. nice philosophy

[uncut dirge]

no, it's a goblin

[still lintel]

[still lintel]

[supple parrot]

I mean se and db are literal outliers. Obv they should be nerfed. And the botttom classes should be buffed

[tulip charm]

Only surge getting nerfed, re untouched

[still lintel]

why couldnt there be a card exp option in gold frog coin shop

[cedar zealot]

Korean mmo through and through

[tulip charm]

The mystery bag is basicly 50% card exp

[cedar zealot]

What are the bottom classes atm

[still lintel]

thats not the coin tab tho

[thorn sluice]

reflux gs

igniter

[wind dagger]

man

my gs

I likethe class alot

but her dps

and cooldown

its horrible

[cedar zealot]

Idk about igniter but fpe is there

Co sum

[thorn sluice]

no crit, no dmg

i found a sorc with 40% crit rate

[cedar zealot]

Play hallu

[thorn sluice]

incredible trash class

[still lintel]

he actually has 40 with epic elixirs

[tulip charm]

From what I remb, control glavier, the Ironman scouter, communication summ

[cedar zealot]

Demonic too

[supple parrot]

prob like reflux and fpe?

[wind dagger]

fire power enhancement is not even that bad to play

[tulip charm]

It’s c tier, c for coomer

[supple parrot]

It’s faceroll. I’m talking about dmg

[wind dagger]

I know

[tulip charm]

It’s not, it’s got alot of upsides to it

[supple parrot]

Literally no reason to play fpe. Barrage is now also giga faceroll

After change

While doing more dmg

[low nebula]

at what bar to use second shandi in brel 4 normal?

to skip on dps

[supple parrot]

Second shapes is at like 35. So prob like 40?

[tulip charm]

I mean, you know any class that have a 15% passive dmg reduction that’s up permanently with insane stagger/destruction and average damage? That is firepower

[supple parrot]

That’s also barrage

Cept barrage does dmg

Fpe don’t

[tulip charm]

Both is brain dead but fpe even more brain dead, that’s not a bad thing, imagine stacking 15dr from lv3 fpe with barrage turret dr plus both shields

[supple parrot]

At a certain point u don’t need any more dr and shield. Barrage is alrdy faceroll enuf

And it does more dmg

Its like blue gunlancer is technically more tanky than red

But it doesn’t matter

Cuz at that level

Red is alrdy invincible

[buoyant wagon]

Neither do damage in your pugs

[supple parrot]

[wind dagger]

mfers

joining fppd

not throwing p

fuck yourself

pity your weapon

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

I forget sometimes but I toss darks to compensate

[supple parrot]

Just do frog

No need phero

Problem solved

[tulip charm]

People need to appreciate destr/stagger more, it allows the entire group to do more dmg

Fpe arti’s got those in spades

[buoyant wagon]

Playing a gunlancer is not an excuse to do half or less of the second lowest dps unless they are running a stagger exclusive build

[supple parrot]

Fpe arti is barely higher than barrage in stagger

Prob lower in destru

And does half the dmg

[copper halo]

FI wardancer has 20% damage reduction, really good stagger/destro and great dmg

[buoyant wagon]

game doesn’t have enough strict stagger and dest checks for people to specifically want an arti

[copper halo]

while having martial artist base hp/defense and not the shit gunners have

[supple parrot]

Why would anyone take a fpe arti. When a gunlancer does everything better

Or destroyer

[buoyant wagon]

^

[supple parrot]

And they got taunts

[copper halo]

and stagger/destruction are so randomly given to classes they can't even make very tight checks because then a bunch of comps couldn't pass them

[buoyant wagon]

Artis just don’t bring anything particularly special

And they aren’t really a juicer class

[supple parrot]

Every comp can pass any stagger/destru check

[copper halo]

that's because all the stagger and destruction checks are balanced so that your 5 destruction skill predator and whatever shit 1 destro gunslinger can both pass them

[supple parrot]

If u fail stagger check it means someone was holding skilll or everything on cd cuz they dumb

Not cuz of comp

[buoyant wagon]

Voldis gets weird for that but you can just do something like only preserve one side at x160

[tulip charm]

[copper halo]

so none of the checks are tight in any meaningful way because some classes just literally do 5 times as much stagger/wp than others

[tulip charm]

Tell that to all the supp/gs/sorc/ reaper se teams out there

[supple parrot]

No class does 5x the stagger lol. Unless u running stagger bot build

[tulip charm]

In voldis

[supple parrot]

I did voldis with gs sorc and deadeye

Was np

[buoyant wagon]

You can pass it but you won’t get to save 2 tiles at x160

Unlike higher stagger comps

[supple parrot]

Ya if u have low stagger u jsut give up a door

It’s fine

I mean every “low stagger” class still have 1-2 decent stagger skill

Just use it on stagger check and it’s fine

[buoyant wagon]

Bard is pretty cucked on stagger though without taking a skill that’s otherwise pretty useless

[supple parrot]

Just change build and put on vph

Standard thing to do for voldike

[thorn sluice]

doesn't deadeye have high stagger?

[buoyant wagon]

Our voldis sup finally got her 25 weapon

[supple parrot]

Not rly lol. Pistoleer mid maybe

[buoyant wagon]

Full golden glow party

[supple parrot]

I’m ew tho

[thorn sluice]

i have 1580 ew too

[supple parrot]

Just save last request for stsggrr

And it fine

[thorn sluice]

i save it for when stagger is enjd

[supple parrot]

[thorn sluice]

because it deal 50% more dmg on staggered foe

[supple parrot]

Wut if u fail stagger

And wipe

[bitter lichen]

but its more dps

[thorn sluice]

blame cheapos no ww

[bitter lichen]

[thorn sluice]

[supple parrot]

[thorn sluice]

why should i save a skill for stagger when it deal 50% more dmg when the boss is staggered

[supple parrot]

Cuz it’s ur biggest stagger skill

That does double stagger vs ur next biggest

[bitter lichen]

but its more dps

[wind dagger]

I

I will just

do Pleccia

and then KT VOldis

I ain't gonna do another MSQ run

[ancient tundra]

@silver hollow Kim when we are all using vc

[wind dagger]

xd

just like me

im lurking in elfuegos house

[stark thicket]

[full igloo]

[lean pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/i-live-in-your-walls-i-know-where-you-live-meme-cat-caption-gif-25921313

[wind dagger]

are you pregnant

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-minions-congratulations-clap-gif-4115631

[full igloo]

just got to eat burger king with my mum, she was struggling with all the english names for their burgers, it was cute

[ancient tundra]

What the

[faint herald]

new episode of maomao today right? 8pm cet ?

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-commando-arnie-arnold-sus-gif-19215973

[ancient tundra]

Come out bro let s play some games

Don t lurk

[uneven mortar]

we got to ghost phase and learned we are missing abt 20m dps

they should sell thiraein sidereals $5 per pop

like candy crush

[still lintel]

you got some shitter dps?

[thorn sluice]

He got some aeromancer

[uneven mortar]

i wouldnt put it like THAT

[thorn sluice]

[uneven mortar]

you being real rude rn

[still lintel]

i call it being honest

[thorn sluice]

How do you miss 20m DPS

[full igloo]

nm or hm ?

[uneven mortar]

thats life you know

hm

[thorn sluice]

There are people autoattacking only

[supple parrot]

everyone doing 10 mil dps?

[uneven mortar]

yes nibba

[copper halo]

Our group is struggling to survive ghost phase, our best attempt I was there alone at the end but berserked at 4x bars 🥹

[supple parrot]

I thought ur in a whale group

[uneven mortar]

boomer whale group

[full igloo]

was it the first time you got to ghost phase enrage ?
If yes, it may be only a matter of getting people in group comfortable with the raid

[uneven mortar]

you forgot the boomer part

[supple parrot]

ur also doing 10 mil?

[uneven mortar]

we all oldge man

17m

[supple parrot]

[uneven mortar]

im like lebron james

[full igloo]

and how do you know your dps

[supple parrot]

Use darks

[full igloo]

[uneven mortar]

old but still contributing

everyone bring flame

dark from where

[supple parrot]

Why?

[copper halo]

Judging by skill animations and intimate class knowledge we're doing like 140m dps as a group pre-ghost but it all falls apart in ghost phase

[supple parrot]

[uneven mortar]

that mechanic

5 froze

[buoyant wagon]

How do you miss 20m unless people are dead

[uneven mortar]

always 1-2 dead

[supple parrot]

Just free with auto attks?

[buoyant wagon]

Okay that makes sense

[uneven mortar]

but thats life you know

it is what it is

[buoyant wagon]

2 dead is about the max you can carry

[uneven mortar]

its just a game in the end

[supple parrot]

Just don’t die?

[uneven mortar]

[buoyant wagon]

And requires several 20m+ players

[uneven mortar]

me and 1 other guy doing 17m rest doing 10-11m

[buoyant wagon]

10-11m

[supple parrot]

Nah we cleared with 3 dead and I was on gl. Only 1 person was over 20 in my pug

[buoyant wagon]

Hands issue

[uneven mortar]

we dont have 40 elixir

[buoyant wagon]

3 dead is likely dying a fair bit into ghost

Can’t lose more than 2 before ghost

[uneven mortar]

its fine its only 100k worth of mats anyway

[supple parrot]

2 dead going into ghost and a third died at the start of it

[uneven mortar]

im the f2p investor

[buoyant wagon]

That’s around

17m average?

Were the dead supports

[uneven mortar]

yes

[buoyant wagon]

Impossible to have all been dps

[uneven mortar]

sometime support

sometime player

[supple parrot]

2dps and a sup died

In my run I think

[buoyant wagon]

That’s still uh

Weird math

[supple parrot]

I was lowest dps on my gl at like 13 mil

[uneven mortar]

i mean its just a game, clearing valtan extremo meant nothing

[buoyant wagon]

Your 4 dps would have needed to average around 21m

[uneven mortar]

im still the beacon of hope for f2p

[buoyant wagon]

With 2 thirains

[wind dagger]

[uneven mortar]

soon to be klc 30, full 10, +25 wep as f2p

[supple parrot]

Was like 21 highest others were 17-19 I think

[buoyant wagon]

It’s roughly 85/x dps

[supple parrot]

[wide ore]

they exist

[wind dagger]

[copper halo]

+25 weapon f2p is easy. I paid more for my +20 than a friend did for +24 and +25 combined. Possibly even +23

[buoyant wagon]

Let me check my logs

We were 24.6/21.5/20.1/13.7 (dead 30s into ghost)/7.4/dead before ghost

20s left to enrage

[supple parrot]

We cleared with like 3 seconds left on enrage or something

[uneven mortar]

who cares

its just valtan ex

[supple parrot]

Don’t give up

[uneven mortar]

[supple parrot]

Just don’t die

And throw darks

[wind dagger]

one day I will raid EX Valtan too

[supple parrot]

[nova marlin]

niceeee

[uneven mortar]

nah im just gonna do normal

ex normal

[supple parrot]

It’s only here for 4 more weeks

Then it’s gone

[uneven mortar]

im too old for this man

[wind dagger]

wtf

[uneven mortar]

if i was on my prime

id do it without healer

[lean pewter]

[uneven mortar]

5m dps each

[lean pewter]

that's not much

[uneven mortar]

now you gotta be pragmatic when you old

look at lebron

when his team got blown out he left at second quarter

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

If you only did 13 and still beat enrage your 3rd dps probably died later into ghost than you remembered

[uneven mortar]

cant be doing chasedown blocks when youre getting blown out

[full igloo]

your prime ? are you 50+ years old ?

[uneven mortar]

the fuck

31

[full igloo]

I'm 30

[uneven mortar]

shid you old too

[full igloo]

I'm not old

[uneven mortar]

[supple parrot]

the dead ppl were higher than me. I wasn’t dmging much on ghost. Just countering

[full igloo]

many people around 30 who raid no problem

[supple parrot]

One of the sup died

[uneven mortar]

well i have a big fkn problem rn

[copper halo]

You old

[buoyant wagon]

Sup deaths are whatever

Well, 1 of them

Both = dps now have to counter

If no gl

[supple parrot]

I was countering anyways I don’t think bard was running 2 counters

[buoyant wagon]

We had our gl on counter duty also

Since he wasn’t great at dpsing anyways

[uneven mortar]

damn

im actually more tired than i thought

after 2.5 hours raid

hmm

[supple parrot]

[uneven mortar]

i dont think i can do thaemine or echidna hard

[supple parrot]

I’m telling u flames was a mistake

U shoulda had everyone bring dark and rotate darks

The entire fight

[uneven mortar]

doing that raid was a mistake

now im down 5.5 hours

[supple parrot]

But did u have fun

[uneven mortar]

fuck no

[buoyant wagon]

Bringing flames

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

[uneven mortar]

after the second day i already knew were never clearing

like midway

into that 1 hour session

but since im a nice guy i cant just be like "we not clearing yall"

im a team player

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

I mean

If your teammates were doing 10-12m

[uneven mortar]

i have alot of stake in the reclears

[buoyant wagon]

It was a lost cause anyways

[full igloo]

you can always go for normal mode

[uneven mortar]

well thats what im doing rn

i mean im telling them im too old for this

you youngins go ahead

[supple parrot]

10-12 mil is normal mode numbers

[uneven mortar]

[supple parrot]

[uneven mortar]

im doing normal for the rest 2 weeks

[supple parrot]

Don’t give up man

[uneven mortar]

its joever tom

[supple parrot]

Wait did @quartz turret ever clear it

[uneven mortar]

im a normal mode andy now

[supple parrot]

I think he gave up too

[cedar zealot]

i didnt even bother with ex valtan, not interested

[uneven mortar]

i guess when doing thae normal -> echidna normal -> thae hm -> echidna hm

[full igloo]

I tried to apply to some group for ex valtan nm but the gatekeep is real

[still lintel]

@dawn yacht support lee sin didnt even notice but he started guardian horn which was sus

[full igloo]

nobody want my 1590

[uneven mortar]

or maybe ill go thae normal -> echidna normal -> buy thae hm bus -> buy echidna hm bus

so the next normal raid i can do 65m dps

and solo it

[dull obsidian]

well yeh

people want 1600s with elixirs

[full igloo]

they should put the raid at 1600 item level

[uneven mortar]

well shid im 1620 with 40 elixir, i should find party real quick

[full igloo]

[still lintel]

people wanna cover up for no hands with gear

[full igloo]

I have hands

[dull obsidian]

they don't know that

[full igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-corner-alone-sad-gif-5204367990821503952

[uneven mortar]

even people doing 5m dps thought they had hands

until they see cruel truth that lays within the sacred scripture

[low nebula]

[supple parrot]

[still lintel]

you cant skip the 5 counter in helltan right?

[dull obsidian]

wtf

just ask him to dm me

can I get them for free?

[supple parrot]

It’s a random pattern. U won’t get it every run

The higher ur dmg the less likely u will see it

[dull obsidian]

when he does it

its either memory / 5 counters / dmg -> stagger

pretty sure

[thorn sluice]

We found it for all the practice runs we made

And when finally it didn’t happen , we cleared

Actually players have counter issues

[brittle pulsar]

does south vern still give huge ammount of books ?

quests

[uneven mortar]

LMFAO i found team of 1620s that gave up too

LOOOOL

[supple parrot]

I mean other than the last counter. All the other ones u just counter when he turns blue…

[dull obsidian]

like blue/purple engraving books?

[uneven mortar]

thank you jesus

[faint herald]

smh

[supple parrot]

I mean it’s the second week. That’s not surprising

Inb4 u guys get jailed in nm tho

[burnt tree]

Ayyy Seto boss again

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

If all the 1580s would raid with each other…..

[supple parrot]

Are u below 1600?

[buoyant wagon]

jk they don’t

They all want to join the 1600-1620 parties

[copper halo]

I've seen a blade do 3m dps and 1 surge/min on akkan 😅

[dull obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

[burnt tree]

[buoyant wagon]

Can’t even blame support shortage because there’s no shortage of 1580 supports

[dull obsidian]

atleast I can guarantee 1630

[faint herald]

:c i shut down lost ark

[supple parrot]

1630 is pretty free on one char tbh

[buoyant wagon]

[dull obsidian]

if you're 21 spread ye lmao

[faint herald]

what does that even mean lol

[dull obsidian]

6x 21

[supple parrot]

Well im 22 weapon gonna go 21 on rest. Pretty sure I’ll hit it off bounds by the time thaemine comes

[dull obsidian]

most of my static is aiming 24/25 wep

1.5% dmg increase per 1-2m~ gold average

[silver hollow]

Chuan’s cousin

[dull obsidian]

truly worth the investment

[supple parrot]

Imagine honing to 25 weapon and then doing less dmg than 20 weapon andies

[silver hollow]

1.6% akutually

[burnt tree]

Imagine Honing to +25 when Adv. Honing exists

[urban obsidian]

just to break apart the month before its out

??

[silver hollow]

Imagine thinking we will last long enough till then

[dull obsidian]

who said its breaking apart

[urban obsidian]

literally

everyone is going insane?

[copper halo]

imagine having a 1650 weapon when 1670 exists with adv honing

[buoyant wagon]

Most of his static about to be banned by AG- lmao jk nothing is going to happen

[urban obsidian]

[full igloo]

yes 1590

[burnt tree]

That's only 7-9 months away

[burnt tree]

True

[dull obsidian]

yeh lmao

[silver hollow]

“Only”

[wind dagger]

It's about the glow

[dull obsidian]

90% of people here are gone

[wind dagger]

ey, I will stay!

[full igloo]

if I make a lobby, people don't join, If I apply a lobby, people cancel me

[wind dagger]

[burnt tree]

I mean the game will die when Thaemine releases but its what it is

[full igloo]

[silver hollow]

Brother half of this chat will be riot mmo main in 2 month

[burnt tree]

[silver hollow]

[wind dagger]

riot mmo?

LOL

COpiumg

Wuthering Waves

[burnt tree]

Bro thinks Riot MMO will release before 2028

[buoyant wagon]

Because everyone around your ilvl is thinking the same and wants to play with people stronger than them

And all the strong people don’t want your low ilvl character lol

[full igloo]

they dumb

[urban obsidian]

bro thinks riot mmo will be out befor ethe mmo genre is completely dead

[dull obsidian]

dude

I'll be here

[copper halo]

mmo genre will never die, there's an endless supply of old people

[dull obsidian]

[burnt tree]

That's most likely next year so

[wind dagger]

[burnt tree]

Not if they die

[dull obsidian]

endless supply of old people

[buoyant wagon]

Also extreme valtan is roster wide

[urban obsidian]

?

[urban obsidian]

ur osu main

[silver hollow]

Surely theamine will save the game

[wind dagger]

Well, as long as the game is good I don't mind

[full igloo]

Oh my first thaemine card

[burnt tree]

Did you get in the beta? xD

[buoyant wagon]

There aren’t that many veteran players whose highest character is below 1600

[copper halo]

They're still constantly making more

[burnt tree]

Not if i kill them myself

[wind dagger]

No email yet, I don't think I will get it. What I think is the first X amount of people get to play the beta, while the others can sign up but all spots are already taken

[dull obsidian]

you don't have a brel card yet?

[low nebula]

stil dont have one

[burnt tree]

I think its batches

[supple parrot]

lol u mean there is 0. Anyone below 1600 is new to the game just just came back and might as well be new

[dull obsidian]

I feel like brel card drop rate is pretty high

[buoyant wagon]

[cedar zealot]

@supple parrot how much is this worth, none on broker and purples are like 150-200k

[dull obsidian]

[burnt tree]

They will probably send more invitations as they need them

[wind dagger]

I hope so

[burnt tree]

3 malice. 10g

[silver hollow]

Nice brel card

[cedar zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-aura-keep-yourself-safe-saiyku-gif-1854366137062466114

[copper halo]

who would pay a lot for a salad earring

[full igloo]

well for that, you may be right but at least for valtan I'm confident I'll do better than most vet, mechanic and uptime wise

[dull obsidian]

trust 75k

[supple parrot]

How would I know prob 50-80k if I were to guess

[dull obsidian]

try*

[silver hollow]

Zheng would

[buoyant wagon]

You don’t even have bible

So how would you know that

[burnt tree]

Also its not a ring. A low quality ring is a free pass. This aint it. Telling me to kms doesn't mean im wrong

[buoyant wagon]

[burnt tree]

[full igloo]

bible is cringe

[low nebula]

ow, good alt

[burnt tree]

Undeserved

[buoyant wagon]

There’s no way you can confidently say you are better than others without actually seeing your own performance

[copper halo]

they should remove oreha cost from silver honing, my rice fields are running dry and all my remaining chars are 1445 so not even brel mats

[low nebula]

free brel stones feel good

[silver hollow]

Enjoy ur blue jail

88 is a cursed number

[burnt tree]

Yeah

[silver hollow]

U will be there for a year

XDD

[dull obsidian]

89 is the true cursed number

[thorn sluice]

88 is deadge

[burnt tree]

My weapon is 98q. 0.15% chance to get 99

[dull obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

I 5 tapped my cn friend’s 79 weapon to 97

[thorn sluice]

Delete the char and make new

[low nebula]

im not taping any more for gold, i used free stones on all alts now to get them over 50% 😄

[burnt tree]

Forever trapped in 98q

[silver hollow]

Mine was 88 for legit a year

[buoyant wagon]

I have the golden hands

[silver hollow]

Then 91 then 97

[dull obsidian]

I went from

[full igloo]

you don't need a dps meter to check that, this is why I said it's cringe

[dull obsidian]

like 50-??-??-??-68->79->99

[thorn sluice]

Dismantle weapon and re craft

[supple parrot]

but ur opinion is irrelevant. Ppl will just take the better geared

[dull obsidian]

I remember getting like 4 upgrades in a row

before blue

[silver hollow]

Nice waste of gold for the same result

[dull obsidian]

then I was stuck at blue

[silver hollow]

[dull obsidian]

Placebo effect

[buoyant wagon]

lol you absolutely cannot tell for certain you are better than most players without meter

[burnt tree]

I got 2 armor pieces at 87/88 and its painge

[thorn sluice]

[burnt tree]

[buoyant wagon]

The mvp screen doesn’t tell you shit

[silver hollow]

Honestly my scrapper is all greens, but problem is its high greens

[thorn sluice]

Only bible

[buoyant wagon]

Your own uptime could be garbage for all you know

[silver hollow]

Its my most cursed alt

[silver hollow]

[burnt tree]

69q gear is prison

[silver hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-expansion-gojo-domain-expansion-ryoiki-tenkai-gif-8954021360802172436

[silver hollow]

Am in the 60s ye

[supple parrot]

This is true tho. I’ve had ppl complain about low dps and they are literally the lowest dps ppl are not self aware

[full igloo]

[buoyant wagon]

You can be gear carried and still mvp but not be aware your uptime is terrible

[burnt tree]

RIP

[silver hollow]

If u cant tell if ur uptime is good or not without meter in a certain raid/pull then ur just delusional and bad

U can always tell without meter

[buoyant wagon]

Or play with juicers and not make it on the board but still played very well relative to your gear

[silver hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/999402772866805770.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[dull obsidian]

I think bible helped me jump from 80/80/20 bard to 95/98/40-50 bard

[buoyant wagon]

You won’t have concrete numbers

[supple parrot]

That is the point. Ppl are both delusional and bad

[buoyant wagon]

Sure if it’s a night and day difference it’s obvious but only if you are actually fixated on improvement

[silver hollow]

We not talking about exact numbers am talking uptime in general u can just tell by how u play?

[buoyant wagon]

Lmao plenty of people have horrible uptime and think they are playing fine

[supple parrot]

Ppl will think they played well and then did zdps

[silver hollow]

Like urself

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-happy-yes-yeah-agree-gif-9470192629442860968

[supple parrot]

[silver hollow]

Is true heard ur GL is Z

not my words tho

[burnt tree]

Preach

[supple parrot]

my gl does fine

[burnt tree]

Gl dn

[supple parrot]

Prob does more than ur main

[silver hollow]

[supple parrot]

[silver hollow]

Ur zerk cant even come close to my main

sir rmt the 2nd

[burnt tree]

Whose the first if Chuan of all people is second

[supple parrot]

I would be impressed if u are within 30% of my zerker’s dmg

[buoyant wagon]

If some players out there actually knew how bad the numbers they were pulling are

They’d be appalled

[silver hollow]

Asunn

[burnt tree]

Oh right 1655 stronk

[wind dagger]

lol, when the man breaks up with the woman in this kdrama

[burnt tree]

Which

[buoyant wagon]

Is he actually a criminal

I see that name tossed around often

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-kita-ikuyo-criminal-gif-14391815861381120225

[burnt tree]

Hes a 1655 Sorc on EUC, people say he has no hands tho

[buoyant wagon]

Alright probably a criminal

[wind dagger]

True Beauty, do you know about it?

[dull obsidian]

idk the last time I heard about him

[copper halo]

he's pretty open about swiping daily max for months to get his esther so who knows if he rmts or not

[dull obsidian]

he lost to a surgeblade in a frog 1 v 1

[burnt tree]

Its on my watch list i think

[dull obsidian]

on his esther

and people were calling him a fraud

[buoyant wagon]

A lot of people both swipe ingame and rmt

[wind dagger]

I've read the manhwa of it

[buoyant wagon]

Especially if they’re a somewhat more public figure

[copper halo]

if the people who always go watch others stream and them come say "that guy has no hands" were half as good as they think it'd be a different kind of a game

[burnt tree]

Shame Esther 8 doesn't have Doomsday auto target

[left sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/granblue-gif-24573936

[burnt tree]

Hed probably win if it did

[left sierra]

satho stop slacking

[dull obsidian]

satho stop stacking

[burnt tree]

Wym?

How im slacking

[buoyant wagon]

[left sierra]

its granblue fantasy relink o'clock

[burnt tree]

I already played that

I even played FF7 Rebirth demo yday

[urban obsidian]

lowkey

[left sierra]

played is not enough

did you max all the waifus

[burnt tree]

It is

[urban obsidian]

this shogun show looks like itll be pretty good

[burnt tree]

No

[left sierra]

look at my babe

[urban obsidian]

https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/shogun

[burnt tree]

Bruh

[urban obsidian]

[left sierra]

but its tweyen waiting room

[low nebula]

lvl 15 gems

[left sierra]

femboy fanatic

[buoyant wagon]

[burnt tree]

Noll most hardcore granblue player

[left sierra]

lies

im just pressing buttons

[buoyant wagon]

I only have time for the gacha

jk I don’t

[burnt tree]

You're busy piloting on CN tsk tsk

[urban obsidian]

frfr

[buoyant wagon]

But I had to do this

[urban obsidian]

wuthering waves waiting room

frfr

[burnt tree]

Mizu i wanna play it but im sure they won't let me in

[urban obsidian]

i didnt get an invite

[burnt tree]

Apparently they gonna send invites while the beta is ongoing or something

[urban obsidian]

surely

[burnt tree]

Prayge

[urban obsidian]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0fkL0fOhEzRK8WFe2ixt2d?si=8dfed34a5d4d42e7

[burnt tree]

Its also not a peeposleep game like Genshin with their two skills

[ancient tundra]

It. S for free

Anyways

[burnt tree]

Yeah just bounds

[ancient tundra]

Yep

[burnt tree]

[dull obsidian]

mizu

give me some shit to watch

[cedar zealot]

[low nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FctRpaleRFc

here.

[burnt tree]

[urban obsidian]

my katarina urf game

frfr

[low nebula]

what is "frfr" is this some newspeak im not aware?

[dawn yacht]

No ardent tho...

[urban obsidian]

https://discord.com/channels/212635560596996097/1030337145338085397 @dull obsidian frfr

[hidden jay]

Is he banned yet

[cedar zealot]

why would he banned

[urban obsidian]

most of asunn's swiping is done legit

[wintry depot]

Most

[cedar zealot]

cant be banning your biggest customers

its bad for business

[dawn yacht]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850672089118933012/999891204663693322/0AFAC11C-FF55-4163-997B-EC09B919E36C.gif

[full igloo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850672139489247243/1005496313804238878/MokokoFlames4.gif

[low nebula]

this abomination again

[dawn yacht]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850672089118933012/999891204663693322/0AFAC11C-FF55-4163-997B-EC09B919E36C.gif

[thorn sluice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850672089118933012/999891204663693322/0AFAC11C-FF55-4163-997B-EC09B919E36C.gif

[silver hollow]

Lol nope he was arguing here yesterday with queen and i even saw him raid with baker just fine the other day

[buoyant wagon]

Funny how nobody can namedrop anyone they know who would have been banned

[thorn sluice]

I can drop a name

[wind dagger]

fk

this bs

white orbs mech kayangle g3

[thorn sluice]

Serenei is banned

[wind dagger]

I hate it

[silver hollow]

Its also funny u rmt and proud of it

stop the crap XD

[buoyant wagon]

[silver hollow]

Yh exactly u got nothing to say or deny xdd

So stop pretending

[urban obsidian]

atleast he has the skill to do smth with the shit he buys

unlike most rmters

[thorn sluice]

Join partys where you are 3 /4 and you have the easiest positions

[buoyant wagon]

When have I ever denied anything

[full igloo]

Is it okay to have x2 earring x2 ring at 90+ qual and just be 70 qual on necklace at first for 5x3 +1 ?
going for 90 qual cost too much for me right now

[silver hollow]

Besides the point xd

[urban obsidian]

not rly

if pl wanna spend money on a video game let em

[buoyant wagon]

I don’t deny me being a criminal

[urban obsidian]

its the same as spending on any other hobby

[buoyant wagon]

Just get a high roll main stat necklace

50+ quality is possible for one of the rolls to be 500

[full igloo]

yeah that was my thought, I'm already over 1700 swiftness so getting high roll crit then

thanks

[cedar zealot]

there is a reason for this

if we can name someone who got banned

[thorn sluice]

1700 swiftness

[cedar zealot]

that means everyone connected to that person will get banned too

[thorn sluice]

The most expensive swiftness item is like 20k

[full igloo]

not on necklace

[cedar zealot]

which would imply AGS finally patched up the crack in their banning process

[buoyant wagon]

Swiftness hasn’t been cheap for a while

[full igloo]

I got ring and earring for cheap tho

[urban obsidian]

^

[cedar zealot]

which most vets been abusing since launch

[buoyant wagon]

Not with slayer and aero

[thorn sluice]

I’ve done 3sp build and swift accs were very cheap

[full igloo]

got this for 30K
while a bad necklace cost almost the same price

[thorn sluice]

Almost every acc 90+

[full igloo]

[buoyant wagon]

Probably because

Hit master is a niche engraving

[wintry depot]

^

[full igloo]

yeah hit master cost nothing

[buoyant wagon]

And your necklace has more general engravings

[thorn sluice]

30k for this … if it was spec it was 200k

[urban obsidian]

my awakening 5 acc cost me 60k

[thorn sluice]

Swiftness isn’t cheap

[wintry depot]

Its a ring, it wouldnt be 200k

Tf are u saying again

[indigo flax]

swift pieces are cheap (not neck)

[buoyant wagon]

Hit master grudge spec

[thorn sluice]

Spec ?

[buoyant wagon]

Still wouldn’t be 200k on a ring

[indigo flax]

cause you dont needa max out swift

[wintry depot]

Ring

[buoyant wagon]

There aren’t that many classes that use it

[thorn sluice]

1 malus

[buoyant wagon]

hit master

[urban obsidian]

hitmaster ring being 200k

[full igloo]

I've always been playing swiftness, spec is for the rich

[buoyant wagon]

Half the classes that use it aren’t even that common

[thorn sluice]

Ah it’s +2, anyway if it was spec it was x3 price

[urban obsidian]

cool?

[thorn sluice]

Swiftness is cheap af since always

[wintry depot]

X3 isnt 200k

[urban obsidian]

wdym

30x3=200k

[wintry depot]

Eu maths

[urban obsidian]

says the frenchie

[thorn sluice]

In case it isn’t 200k, even if it is 80/90/100k sstill

[wintry depot]

Im more canadian, relax

[buoyant wagon]

French Canadian?

[indigo flax]

swift is usually cheap other than when its mass increase/raid cap or any support engravings

[thorn sluice]

Swiftness build are cheap

[wintry depot]

It wouldnt be 100k for a ring

Stop the cap

Not with hitmaster

[full igloo]

nevermind, I was dumb

hit master necklace cost nothing

[urban obsidian]

theres still french in there

[full igloo]

I wasted pheons

I'll learn from my mistakes

[wintry depot]

Always cheap engravings on necklace ye

And u start with it and your class engraving acc

[indigo flax]

rock last ofc

[full igloo]

I thought hit master was common due to all the sorc back then

I guess I was outdated

[buoyant wagon]

People rerolled off sorc

Or already finished gearing

[urban obsidian]

its also

swift

[buoyant wagon]

That too

[urban obsidian]

theres nearly zero swift classes that go hm

[indigo flax]

ya

tth n reflux

[buoyant wagon]

Wind fury

[wintry depot]

Windfury

[urban obsidian]

swfit tth doesnt even go hitmaster do they?

[full igloo]

alright now I just need hit master 3 + ether predator 5, recent price are 15k for 85+ quality.

[neat swan]

sorc with hit master

[wintry depot]

Swiftgniter

[indigo flax]

i think they can but its lower

[urban obsidian]

yeh

it doesnt even go hm

[indigo flax]

💀

i kinda wanna swap my gs to tth

pm kinda boring

[urban obsidian]

why

itll be just as shit lol

infinite downtime

[neat swan]

tth is ass

[urban obsidian]

even with 10s

[cedar zealot]

At that point, just swap to deadeye

[indigo flax]

idk

[cedar zealot]

[indigo flax]

i hate this class now

fun to play

but just not worth investing in

[urban obsidian]

just make a breaker

like every other lost ark player

[indigo flax]

na

makin a sf

[urban obsidian]

i still dunno who i wanna push to 1540 and fuck around on

either glaive or arcana

[indigo flax]

breaker looks kinda mid to me ngl

[cedar zealot]

I saw memos sura breaker video, looks like wf aero but front attack

[full igloo]

well I learned a lesson today, wasted 70 pheons

luckily I only have one char

[urban obsidian]

ive seen 5 minutes of saint's gameplay

and thats it

of breaker

[neat swan]

you can always swipe for some more

[full igloo]

swipe

[cedar zealot]

Not my thing, I'll wait for ayaya sword master

[full igloo]

all my pheons are free pheons

[wind dagger]

[cedar zealot]

Make 5 more

[wind dagger]

yeah bro

[urban obsidian]

ill prolly make a

arcana tbh

[indigo flax]

arcana look interesting

[urban obsidian]

bc if we get the horizontal express then my glaive on naw will be playable

and id rather not be playing 2 glaives

ive also only played arcana in hell clown

so itd be fun to play her in normal shit

[wintry depot]

Hope we dont get horizontal express

[urban obsidian]

i hope you get false banned for rmt

[neat swan]

I already did

[wintry depot]

Gl with that

[buoyant wagon]

[lime dove]

bruh

this is gettting out of hand

Challenge guardian literally all bots for the whole week

[full igloo]

same

I hope they make horizontal easier to achieve

[lime dove]

why

[full igloo]

but no express

[wintry depot]

To piss off mizu

[lime dove]

that'd require more planning

They wont do that

[full igloo]

more planning from sg ?

[lime dove]

they want the lazy route

[neat swan]

cuz they decided to do all of it and don't want people to get trough it the easy way

[lime dove]

[full igloo]

all the powerpass be it paid or free + knowledge express already show their stance on such matter sadly

[buoyant wagon]

The current horizontal express Korea has isn’t that hard though?

[full igloo]

[lime dove]

why fix the game when ppl can just skip the shittiest parts

[full igloo]

[empty sleet]

The second chaos dungeon per character >

World boss >

The ocean >

[full igloo]

world boss should be like chaos gate, server instance

[buoyant wagon]

Chaos dungeons complaints died after fate embers got introduced

[empty sleet]

Literally no

[buoyant wagon]

There’s no reason to work on them now

[lime dove]

Fixed

[fast bone]

does that still exist?

[full igloo]

fuck the only necklace in the market is too high for me
but I'll wait for 90+ quality

[buoyant wagon]

Korea hasn’t been complaining about daily fatigue since

[full igloo]

I have more than 60k in sell, just need to be patient

[lime dove]

Korea

[buoyant wagon]

If anything it made them do chaos dungeons more

[buoyant wagon]

Our opinions don’t matter to SG

[neat swan]

nor to ags

[buoyant wagon]

Not like they have the power to change certain things

People thinking AGS can deliver honing nerfs is straight up delusional

[full igloo]

ags is just there to be there mostly

[buoyant wagon]

That’s the majority of publishers

[full igloo]

well at least they do better than most other publishers I've known

[buoyant wagon]

You have some exceptions like tencent games due to their influence and the size of their market

[full igloo]

I'm used to publisher taking care of my old loved games and ruining them

[empty sleet]

Trove

[lime dove]

[full igloo]

potato zerker

that person took it personally

[lime dove]

guyy is a pally