lost-ark-discussions

[cursive ruin]

value dn

that's how they get you

[bitter lichen]

same wit NE

[burnt tree]

even the search bar shows them

[midnight marlin]

your nuts is 0

[bitter lichen]

NE is way more spam

and it dont matter if u hit ur szpells or not

[uneven mortar]

it do be kinda annoying getting beatn by fm

[cursive ruin]

I just learned thre's a search bar today gang

[uneven mortar]

they not getting carpal tunnel like me

[tawny lion]

Your damage goes down a lot if you don’t keep ur strict rotation with nightmare lol

[copper halo]

NE is the same but you have the typical swiftness class problem of having to hit all the time to do damage, no big deal tho, still super smooth and simple

[burnt tree]

net wth

[cursive ruin]

I'm a bot player bro

I hop on, do raids, leave

[bitter lichen]

strict rotation of spamming off cd

[cursive ruin]

I don't understand how people say like

Oh the pvp in this game is dead

Bro have you seen the gatekeeping for kakul

I'm fighting the players more than the boss

[midnight marlin]

just be better

[burnt tree]

every day with AGS is a PvP mode

[hazy lintel]

What do people gatekeep for kakul?

[drowsy glacier]

nth is better than a nightmare set + full moon class

[cursive ruin]

1580

[burnt tree]

NE is more fun than full moon

[midnight marlin]

wtf are you on

[bitter lichen]

[midnight marlin]

my 1540 5x3 gets accepted any day

[cursive ruin]

It's always the alt roster indonensian gold farmer 1400 swift 4x3 no vph supps doing this though

Any other lobby not owned by a supp lets me in

[buoyant wagon]

A properly geared 1540 gets into kakul without too much issues

Especially if your roster is fine

[bitter lichen]

probs if you dont have set 2

maybe get gatekept

[cursive ruin]

I got set 2, probably cuz I don't have los or something

[frail shard]

ive shared my experience here before 3days ago

[cursive ruin]

And I do play barrage which is like perfect for skipping

[frail shard]

i get gatekept on my slayer 1525 tho

[delicate sandal]

@sand marsh r u here?

[frail shard]

but with good gems

[copper halo]

maybe I should make another souleater with the next events to replace my gunlancer

[cursive ruin]

What gl

[tulip charm]

lucky run i hit good

[sand marsh]

no

[cursive ruin]

red or blue

[buoyant wagon]

If your roster sucks and you don’t even have los18 yeah that will matter

[copper halo]

I have both, both are ass to play

[cedar zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-ratio-skill-issue-hsr-honkai-honkai-star-rail-gif-17536661432592668215

[delicate sandal]

lmk when lobby up

[tulip charm]

ill come db

[cursive ruin]

Wtf red is fun

You're crazy

[sand marsh]

what the

[dull obsidian]

I tend to accept low rosters if they have dd30 or are close

[frail shard]

282 roster los 30, they just blind

[sand marsh]

why u getting gatekept

[delicate sandal]

its a sorc

[copper halo]

red lancer plays like a shit destroyer tbh

[sand marsh]

and?

[buoyant wagon]

1525 is your problem

[copper halo]

even after the ready attack fix

[frail shard]

yep

[cedar zealot]

Should have stayed control

[delicate sandal]

thats it

[buoyant wagon]

1540 is the cutoff

[cursive ruin]

I got 106 roster and brel title, but also seeing how fast you can get 100 roster by just doing tower I kind of understand the issue

[sand marsh]

no its not

[frail shard]

shouldve ragehone to 1540

[delicate sandal]

@sand marshu said u would help ppl in need

[sand marsh]

lol

u got jokes

[cursive ruin]

I actually haven't tried applying to kakul on my new 5x3+1 barrage

[tulip charm]

i did fine with it before the balance patch, but afterwards i felt the powercreep

[burnt tree]

i ragehoned to 1580 from 1540 and i didnt pity anything

it was insane

[frail shard]

shut it >;(

[delicate sandal]

im serious

[sand marsh]

no ur not

[cursive ruin]

Oh nice I'm 160k hp now

[sand marsh]

ur not getting gatekept i promise u

[cursive ruin]

I can almost tank 3 pillar explosions in valtan

[supple parrot]

thats a fucking lie

u denied me

[delicate sandal]

yes i am

[sand marsh]

true u did deny chuan

[burnt tree]

hes not a mentor anymore, so he doesnt help nowadays

[delicate sandal]

my aero gets in faster

[sand marsh]

because aero has synergy....

[burnt tree]

no skin = gatekeep

[cursive ruin]

deathboi lost mentor?

hair growing back now or when

[copper halo]

I'd take that slayer to clown maybe, if the group had some damage from other players

[bitter lichen]

bald

[cedar zealot]

Play 422, easier rotation

[cursive ruin]

I don't get gatekept on my slayer

[burnt tree]

ill gatekeep u

[delicate sandal]

ok so when lobby up

[cursive ruin]

I like it rough

[sand marsh]

bro...

[cursive ruin]

👿

[sand marsh]

ur so weird

[burnt tree]

wut

[copper halo]

413 rotation is super easy too and more dmg, why would anyone play 422

[delicate sandal]

[bitter lichen]

[delicate sandal]

ok ill try first lobby i se

see

[burnt tree]

its obvious but ill say it anyway: Preference

[delicate sandal]

ggs

@sand marsh i need ur supp

[tawny lion]

If you miss one skill it messes up your 3 shard burst strict rotation - assuming not lvl 9 cds all around

[bitter lichen]

gargadn

[sand marsh]

omfg

[frail shard]

gargadeeznuts

[cedar zealot]

On or near ilvl, gunlancer

[sand marsh]

join

[cedar zealot]

Maybe some swift piano classes

[delicate sandal]

[burnt tree]

damn nice title

no lie told

[buoyant wagon]

1520 can make it to kakul

But I had los30 and full 10s

[burnt tree]

xdd

[cursive ruin]

blessed day

[buoyant wagon]

And lobby leader actually inspected

[supple parrot]

wow ive never seen zheng do much dmg

[burnt tree]

1520 can make it to kakul but im more geared than 1580s

[quartz turret]

db broken class man

[burnt tree]

undeserved

[copper halo]

Ah wouldn't know, I try to isolate myself from skill issues by just getting better gems instead

[tulip charm]

dang rosey got leg pack from frog

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[supple parrot]

zheng did 30 mil dps, crushed the 1630 gs

[cedar zealot]

He is just being tsundere, wants to play with you, that's all

[burnt tree]

how u know cheater

[tulip charm]

because gunlancer is op

[cursive ruin]

always hating

[burnt tree]

[tulip charm]

it enables so hard

[cedar zealot]

30mil?

[supple parrot]

he crueled, ez math

u dumbo

the gs didnt cruel

[wind dagger]

chuan not admitting

[supple parrot]

[wind dagger]

just say you use dps meter

[burnt tree]

shoooore definitely off of the mvp screen

[tulip charm]

frog dosn't count as a real dps -_-

[supple parrot]

ya on an re db thats not even 1620

and zheng says re db sucks

[quiet igloo]

[cedar zealot]

Did you swap to surge or still on RE

Oh ye re

[stark thicket]

Teemo and Chucky have been so naughty today :c

[cedar zealot]

Re pretty good now eh

[tulip charm]

no i am still re, i just got use to playing it after like 3 weeks

[quiet igloo]

:/

[drowsy glacier]

will we get another boosting event with the new charcter?

[burnt tree]

how does it suck after the rework?

[supple parrot]

u just hae to play the same way in raids

[tulip charm]

its still ass in some gates at voldi, terrible in g1

[supple parrot]

u were sendin like 6 surge per min

[copper halo]

is the new surge gameplay more fun than the old?

[supple parrot]

all at back

[burnt tree]

no

[quiet igloo]

Yes

[urban obsidian]

[quiet igloo]

[burnt tree]

Yesnt

[urban obsidian]

It’s preference

[quiet igloo]

Yes as in it is genuinely better

[copper halo]

having 1 gem classes as alts seems very tempting rn tbh

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeong-gif-3654754744145897317

[copper halo]

don't want to sink a lot of resources into them

[urban obsidian]

Unless ur a god it’s not a true one gem class

[quiet igloo]

Take three billion years to stack 20 vs 7 to 13 seconds

[copper halo]

but scouter/shadowhunter are both kind of ass

[drowsy glacier]

will we get another boosting event with the new charcter?

[buoyant wagon]

6 surge cpm is not happening for the average player

[quiet igloo]

Which u prefer

[urban obsidian]

I barely see guys hit 3cpm

It’s crazy

[buoyant wagon]

3 is like average

[delicate sandal]

@sand marsh i can only trade an aero

[dull obsidian]

When I was playing surge

I was getting 3.2-3.8

[buoyant wagon]

The absolute average

[urban obsidian]

If you wanna be doing actual dmg

You wanna average 3.5-4

Minimum

[burnt tree]

anyone got some of this card exp to share

[cursive ruin]

I can do 6 surge in trixion

[quiet igloo]

Skins ain't selling man

[dull obsidian]

Didn't powder peak at 7 surges a minute in Thaemine?

[quiet igloo]

[buoyant wagon]

You’re not powder though

[dull obsidian]

Well duh

[uneven mortar]

some demon hunters i see was doing 4-5

and the dude was pumping

i think 6 is impossible

[dull obsidian]

I need higher cd gems

[urban obsidian]

[burnt tree]

they are having hand massages wrekk

[urban obsidian]

6 is doable

Huh

[dull obsidian]

My windcut comes up before my surprise attack

[burnt tree]

boosts their skill

[buoyant wagon]

6 is possible

[dull obsidian]

And I tend to windcut last to surge

[uneven mortar]

mb only snow

[buoyant wagon]

People have posted logs in db chat

[cursive ruin]

6 possible with what lv gems

[urban obsidian]

wut

[buoyant wagon]

which were deleted

[bitter lichen]

surgedn

[dull obsidian]

Because it comes up first?

[urban obsidian]

[dull obsidian]

I need higher cd on surprise attack

[urban obsidian]

Ur bogging ur next rotation gg

[uneven mortar]

whats the dps looking like

[buoyant wagon]

I’ve seen 7 in frog but on re

[uneven mortar]

in akkan hm

[dull obsidian]

Well yeh

[buoyant wagon]

I don’t remember akkan hm dps

[dull obsidian]

I just surprise attack the next rotation start

Which is xope

[cursive ruin]

I forgot foot ember got nerfed

[buoyant wagon]

But probably like 22-25m before 30x?

[dull obsidian]

Honestly it's just click buttons

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-final-fantasy7-final-fantasy7remake-ff7r-madam-m-gif-16867255

[dull obsidian]

Oh I had 25m this week in my bus

[burnt tree]

db players be like

[dull obsidian]

On surgeblade

On high 3 surges a minute

[tulip charm]

its all luck, he didn't do 10 backflips randomly that fight

[cursive ruin]

omg bruh it's weekly?

I'm gonna get predator for free

[dull obsidian]

Random though

Gl

[burnt tree]

ure free net

[quartz turret]

i mean its shit deal anyways

[bitter lichen]

dont tell him

[cursive ruin]

It's random?

[quartz turret]

ye

[cursive ruin]

bruh

[dull obsidian]

..

[tulip charm]

and i didn't take a uber to stuncity with like 4 or 5 stuns at frog sometimes

[cursive ruin]

Whatever

[dull obsidian]

Read 2nd last word

[urban obsidian]

Do

[cursive ruin]

I'll still get predator

[urban obsidian]

Read

[bitter lichen]

[cursive ruin]

I'm saucy like that

[burnt tree]

bro cant even read

[urban obsidian]

Reading is hard

[cursive ruin]

I don't wanna read

[dull obsidian]

Mizu

[urban obsidian]

Ishydum

[burnt tree]

get these instead

[dull obsidian]

Tft

[cursive ruin]

Why would I read when my rng is godly and I can get whatever I want whenever I want

[supple parrot]

exactly.. now imagine if u actually learned teh patterns and can do this consistently

[cursive ruin]

Stop hating cuz ur broke

[supple parrot]

[urban obsidian]

My monitor is dead

[bitter lichen]

im 10 away from free grudge books

[supple parrot]

and not just lucked into a god run on accident

[burnt tree]

this you?

[tulip charm]

yeeessss, get a lv10 on summoner and your all set

[dull obsidian]

@rigid aurora

[frail shard]

what did they do

[burnt tree]

cant even put a gem for sale

[dull obsidian]

Arona eating your pyros

[cursive ruin]

Where did you get this

[dull obsidian]

Forcing you to pity

[burnt tree]

you posted this mf

[cursive ruin]

Mods

[copper halo]

Should I grab my old summoner main from the attic and dust her off for some action

[bitter lichen]

[stark thicket]

they keep trying to go under my bed, or going places they shouldnt

[dull obsidian]

Mizu face reveal

[urban obsidian]

@burnt tree I’m stanning fr

[tulip charm]

you can't, at least not on re, its possible on surge or glaiv, re literally have to stick on the boss, with the way they constantly turn in raids like g4 voldi with half the mechs i can't stick on it

[urban obsidian]

Frfrfr

That’s me irl!!

[copper halo]

probably still plays like shit, don't think the "fixes" really helped her any

[urban obsidian]

Real height too

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/karina-smile-karina-reaction-karina-smile-dog-karina-dog-smile-karina-dog-gif-6136048690906075097

[dull obsidian]

Re just kinda has to spam

[frail shard]

they exploring their home. just keep eye on them i guess xd

[dull obsidian]

You can't stop spamming or you do 0 dmg

[wind dagger]

10kg of makeup

[burnt tree]

they look fine without it too

but u wouldnt know

[wind dagger]

ur an asian simp

[stark thicket]

Teemo is being dominate boy even though he is half the size of chucky

[wind dagger]

[burnt tree]

nope

[supple parrot]

u defin can.. if u know the patterns

[burnt tree]

u got no proof adriel

[urban obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/winter-aespa-minjeong-winter-aespa-meow-gif-17034663957805326218

[stark thicket]

adriel still eating chips.. you know thats unhealthy!

[burnt tree]

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[wind dagger]

huh

[tulip charm]

at least i got used to playing it, and the synergy is good, literally 120% uptime

[dull obsidian]

I mean if you're going to EC every rotation there is almost no downtime

[wind dagger]

I don't eat chips

barely eat them

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-advent-children-tifa-lockhart-kick-fight-gif-12496673

[stark thicket]

Well if you dont eat chip, you will go back to being a fish!

[dull obsidian]

You just kinda have to pray your spincutter and small death sentence dash can keep you on the back unless you run axel

[stark thicket]

[supple parrot]

lemme check

[tulip charm]

supposely if i get masters 35/40 set the dmg on re improves alot, i don't have 35 yet

[dull obsidian]

He's omega capping

Probably 75%

[tulip charm]

not for re

that class is literally 120% its stupid

[dull obsidian]

?

[frail shard]

male habit

[dull obsidian]

The buff lasts 6s

You're not casting mael every 6s

[supple parrot]

actually he was 98% on his synergy

[dull obsidian]

Gg

[tulip charm]

thats only because he flew into the air and stuff

[dull obsidian]

Is that back attack or mael

[stark thicket]

teemo will be stronk

[tulip charm]

i wasn't kidding when i said its 120%

[dull obsidian]

We have 2 syns

[tulip charm]

mael isn't 100% uptime

its the other one

the entropy one

[supple parrot]

mael is around 80% up time

[dull obsidian]

Oh I was talking about mael

Yeh

[wind dagger]

eata meal

[stark thicket]

eat me

[dull obsidian]

What are you running your entropy syn on?

[stark thicket]

[dull obsidian]

Im running mine on turning slash atm

[supple parrot]

turning slash

is wut my sources say

[dull obsidian]

Gg

[tulip charm]

normal people have it on spincuter

[urban obsidian]

Sources

[dull obsidian]

The ceiling build

I mean I'm spoilt by swift fingers on spincutter

It's just so good

[tulip charm]

on spincutter its not 120%

[dull obsidian]

[tulip charm]

on turning slash its like 120%

[urban obsidian]

You run swift on spincutter now yeh

[dull obsidian]

If you're turning ye

[urban obsidian]

Fuck not having it

[supple parrot]

i mean previously zheng did like 23 mil max with a gunlaner, this run he did almost 30 not even 1620, no elxiir set

[dull obsidian]

A lot of reblades still axel

In frog?

[supple parrot]

and says re db sucks

yes

[buoyant wagon]

If you don’t axel in frog

[bitter lichen]

[urban obsidian]

A lot of reblades are bad*

[buoyant wagon]

You’re are 99.9% griefing

[dull obsidian]

Eh

[buoyant wagon]

I mean I still use axel

[tulip charm]

i chose to keep darkaxl, i am not dropping it

[urban obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

There’s no point chasing hypothetical ceiling

[dull obsidian]

I just double spincuttet and death sentence into the back

[buoyant wagon]

In homework that you’d rather just get it over

[tulip charm]

despite what everyone and their mom trying to drop axl for more dmg, so i dropped spincutter instead and put the syn on turning

[uneven mortar]

but but how are you gonna do 87m dps otherwise

[charred void]

average gamer living on the floor, dreaming of the ceiling

[uneven mortar]

[buoyant wagon]

I only care about parsing to a certain extent

[cursive ruin]

1959 2 cpm andy in sona

[buoyant wagon]

Abandoning all comfort and safety to just parse chase is idiotic

[supple parrot]

its disgusting how op db is man

nerf when

[buoyant wagon]

Nerf surge

[charred void]

time to abandon the asmongold class chuan

[supple parrot]

nerf both

buf zerker

[uneven mortar]

they are getting nerf

[tulip charm]

iits not...surge is getting the hammer already, that dps on re from frog is not real

[buoyant wagon]

Surge nerf in Korea is meaningless

[tulip charm]

the synergy is real though

[buoyant wagon]

They need to nerf the engraving more

[uneven mortar]

now why would you wanna do that

when 99% of db player already zdps

[copper halo]

nerf zerker tbh, no reason for old shit warrior class to be almost as good as predator

[dull obsidian]

Low floor high ceiling class xdx

So many blades do 0 dmg

It's kinda wack

[thorn sluice]

99%

[buoyant wagon]

I gatekeep blades

[copper halo]

predator also ass for all farm content, definitely no need for mayhem to be as good as it is

[dull obsidian]

I was doing pretty shit dmg until I learnt it too

[buoyant wagon]

They are the new sorc

[tulip charm]

mine does zdps in g1 voldi and barely average on g4 what i feel

[thorn sluice]

Why should be db so hard when you have e 1 skill to land

[supple parrot]

HOLY SHIT ITS THE LEGEND

[uneven mortar]

on farm you go punisher

[charred void]

who

[supple parrot]

sry didnt mean to reply to u fayten

[tulip charm]

its time, for him to mvp

[supple parrot]

its OHMANGO

[tulip charm]

i believe

[supple parrot]

@tulip charm

[dull obsidian]

For voldis I am 1/2, 3, 1/2, 2 in terms of dmg

I lose to the WD in my static

[charred void]

is that some rmter you sell gold to or

what is the mango

[dull obsidian]

Gate 2 is just awful for reblade lmO

[buoyant wagon]

I only win in g3 and g4

[thorn sluice]

Pino mango

[tulip charm]

no, his a legend in raids, like korearepublic berserker

[dull obsidian]

Literally 0 change with the buff

[uneven mortar]

they got jailed by that dude

lol

[quartz turret]

post log after

[dull obsidian]

The enhanced weapon Deadeye always gets first in our G2

[buoyant wagon]

BT zerker takes g1

Sometimes striker

Striker takes g2

[thorn sluice]

Kekw the game doesn’t
Ask you to play db like powder snow

Just saying

[buoyant wagon]

Even if you don’t play like powder

[dull obsidian]

No

[buoyant wagon]

It’s still low floor

[dull obsidian]

The floor is lower than what it was before lmao

[buoyant wagon]

They shafted the meter gain

[tulip charm]

i like ohmango's playstyle though

[dull obsidian]

It's so insanely punishing to miss

[tulip charm]

his playing a entropy class

[thorn sluice]

It’s a good class that is in medium difficulty

[buoyant wagon]

And missing surge was always bad

[thorn sluice]

You gotta land 1 skill in back sir

[tulip charm]

but he dosn't chase the back, he just hits buttons, in the shortest distance to the boss

[buoyant wagon]

lol ceiling on db is absolutely difficult to reach

[dull obsidian]

Not surgeblade

Reblade

[tulip charm]

why chase the back when the boss can turn his back to him randomly

[thorn sluice]

Ceiling

[dull obsidian]

Surgeblade is just 0 utility

It's hilarious

[buoyant wagon]

Even getting close to ceiling is a challenge for most players

[copper halo]

too big of an investment

[thorn sluice]

There no sense for reach ceiling

[dull obsidian]

?

[thorn sluice]

Db perform very well anyway

[dull obsidian]

No they don't LMAO

[supple parrot]

he did 13 mil dps

[thorn sluice]

The DPS is very high

[dull obsidian]

The current average blade is terrible

[thorn sluice]

Ye sure we have to be all powder snows to play db

Bruh

1 skill in back attack

Goddamn

[charred void]

which current average x is good?

[dull obsidian]

You miss 1 skill on re and you're kinda fucked for 14s

[thorn sluice]

You must be kidding me

[uneven mortar]

some plays really well, most isnt, these guys all using bible

[buoyant wagon]

You’re welcome to roll a surge db

[dull obsidian]

Surgeblade I can't comment on because I don't play it

[buoyant wagon]

And show your logs on it

[thorn sluice]

[supple parrot]

isnt that

wut u do

[tulip charm]

no gunlancer man....

[thorn sluice]

Sir I only played entropy classes on 1560+ content

[buoyant wagon]

Also it’s not just landing surge

[thorn sluice]

I barely tried all

[buoyant wagon]

It’s also efficiently building stacks

[thorn sluice]

You telling me you wanna see me playing db

[dull obsidian]

Reblade lost its safety net of moonlight sonic, lost a fuck load of gauge gen everywhere else, and new 2 bubble no longer gives 3 bubble buff

[buoyant wagon]

Never played db at a high level

Says it’s easy

[tulip charm]

sometimes you have to do that out of frustration...like that one time in akkan g2 on my db

[dull obsidian]

Holding awakening is just awkward because dmg loss

[buoyant wagon]

Opinion disregarded

[dull obsidian]

But we still hold it because if we fuck up it's kinda joever

[thorn sluice]

High lvl , we need to be all powdersnows to make a db

Or we do zdps

Shore

💀

[dull obsidian]

Blade is the same as eo soulfist when you compare floor and ceiling

Istg

Fuck up and you're bottom dps hf

[thorn sluice]

Rly wanna see you skills serenei, especially after you said you gatekeep all dbs

[tulip charm]

the meter gen is somewhat deceptive, its bad, extremely bad, but only if you miss, as long as you hit something the meter gen is okay

[thorn sluice]

Rly wanna see your talent bruh

[wind dagger]

serenei when streaming

[charred void]

surely he is good after playing db for 2 years

[thorn sluice]

Rly wanna see this john wick lost ark guy

[buoyant wagon]

[bitter lichen]

any surge db bozo can send an awakening lvl dmg every 8 seconds

not that hard

[copper halo]

can you give me a small loan of 5 million gold

[thorn sluice]

Just like reaper players “damn guys reaper is so hard to play” yes sure , 5 mobility skills with 3 sec cd

[buoyant wagon]

There’s a handful of people who are mechanically better than me at least in the db channel but I can pilot the class reasonably well

[thorn sluice]

Sure very hard

[tulip charm]

thats the best way to play arti -_-

[copper halo]

I don't think anyone is saying reaper is hard to play anymore

[bitter lichen]

reaper lunar is mechanically hard tho

[thorn sluice]

You said you gatekeep every db so you are actually the best

[tulip charm]

why i will always stay a arti main

[thorn sluice]

There is none like you

[buoyant wagon]

Your opinion is worthless if you’ve never played the class extensively before

[thorn sluice]

Or you won’t say that

[buoyant wagon]

The average pug db is garbage, why would I play with them

[bitter lichen]

casue they meta chase

[buoyant wagon]

I refuse to play with gunlancers and sorcs also

[bitter lichen]

and dgaf

[thorn sluice]

OFC let us see your gameplay John wick

[buoyant wagon]

Gunlancer only in guardians

[dull obsidian]

Eh

[thorn sluice]

Surely on Average

[dull obsidian]

I take most gunlancers

[thorn sluice]

We don’t have powdersnow yet

[frail shard]

would you make me an exception? im friendly

[dull obsidian]

Sorcs I tend to avoid

[buoyant wagon]

Gunlancers have been an absolute disappointment in brel and akkan

[uneven mortar]

yeah i take gunlancers too

lol

[bitter lichen]

who powder snow

[tulip charm]

its...kind of hard to tell if a db is good or bad, its not sorc perception
also talking about sorc perception
no joke, i think sorc is way above average right now if not very very strong
but public sorc perception is still in the gutter lol

[uneven mortar]

mage classes you avoid

although theres this arcana in our group atm absolute pumper

[thorn sluice]

Probably best db player in kr

He has a db as main

[dull obsidian]

Rgniter is insane

[thorn sluice]

And his gameplay is insane

[buoyant wagon]

Easy, just look at logs

Like 2/10 dbs in your raids play adequately

Could be recent class tourism

[dull obsidian]

Powder snow is like top 0.01% player in terms of hands

[supple parrot]

he doesnt use logs, he doesnt believe in maths

[dull obsidian]

He's kinda insane on everything he played

[thorn sluice]

And serenei

[bitter lichen]

ppl dont gatekeep sorcs for dmg they gatekeep bc of utility.,..

[thorn sluice]

Don’t forget

[tulip charm]

you still get these weird gates thats just bad for db like g1 voldi, g2 akkan and stuff, no getting around it

[dull obsidian]

?

[bitter lichen]

they dont even take counter

[wind dagger]

i mean, when streaming is your daily income

[dull obsidian]

Most people here are above average

[wind dagger]

oops, wrong ping

[buoyant wagon]

I never claimed I was the best player lmao

[thorn sluice]

You claimed it

[dull obsidian]

Where

Wtf I never saw him say it

[bitter lichen]

there wrong im the best player

[thorn sluice]

By saying :” I gatekeep every db “ it means you are the best

[buoyant wagon]

This guy is very defensive for being called out on not knowing a class’s difficulty because he never played it

[cursive ruin]

[thorn sluice]

Here

[supple parrot]

i mean g1 voldis is not rly bad for db, g2 akkan is only bad if ppl troll

[cursive ruin]

icy gatekeeps every db

[dull obsidian]

G2 akkan is so sad for re db

[tulip charm]

then how do i know the db syn is 120%

[thorn sluice]

Icy plays 6 slayers

Or something

[supple parrot]

wait u became religious?

[dull obsidian]

80% if the time it's sad for entropy

[cursive ruin]

wait

[tulip charm]

[cursive ruin]

surge has synergy

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

I gatekeep classes based on meter history

[thorn sluice]

It’s like icy playing slayers and say: I gatekeep every slayer cuz people are bad “

[tulip charm]

its just part of the rotation, and i don't mean like sometimes hit the rotation or not, i am literally mashing every button before surging as fast as i can lol

[cursive ruin]

I'd gatekeep glaiviers then

[dull obsidian]

I knew you were stupid but I didn't know you were this stupid

[bitter lichen]

i dont gate keep shit games ez

[copper halo]

I gatekeep every sorc and I don't even play the class

[thorn sluice]

This makes more sense

[supple parrot]

u are either the gatekeeper or the gatekept

[copper halo]

also every 10 gem zerker insta decline

[supple parrot]

if u dont gatekeep then that means u get gatekept

[thorn sluice]

In glaiv main and I gatekeep every glaiver cu they suck

[supple parrot]

[copper halo]

those fkrs never survive any gate

[cedar zealot]

What are some of the lowest performing classes on avg in your opinion / beliefs

[thorn sluice]

What does it mean to you

[bitter lichen]

games ez

[cursive ruin]

10 gem zerkers are the most likely to take your shape in brel g2 after you've already declared it and then get you both killed

[thorn sluice]

Blades

Expect him

[buoyant wagon]

Sorc, blade, soulfist, gunlancer, arcana

[wind dagger]

[cursive ruin]

Bruh I play 4 of these

[tulip charm]

i am still waiting for a control glavier main, sometimes i felt i was the only one playing it before the balance patch, and after the balance patch its just too weak now

[cursive ruin]

My sf pumps hard though

[dull obsidian]

Gunslinger and blade

[cursive ruin]

Even with lv5 gems

[dull obsidian]

Most strikers are shit too

[cedar zealot]

I'm surprised zerks aren't there

[cursive ruin]

[thorn sluice]

I’ll do it , but I’ll gatekeep you if you do it

Because you are bad , I’m good

[buoyant wagon]

I don’t see that many gunslingers these days

[thorn sluice]

[cursive ruin]

all gs are like 1630 selling busses bro

[dull obsidian]

I mean yeh youre practically main only

[supple parrot]

zerker consistently do ok in logs

[buoyant wagon]

Zerkers aren’t the meme they were before

[dull obsidian]

Most gs up there have ditched

[wind dagger]

they swapped to others class, this class is kinda dogshit without qol updates

[tulip charm]

the first 2 yea, i don't think ive seen a bad soulfist, but they seem very all in or nothing, gunlancers can do whatever the fk they want and still be good, idk anything about arcana except quokka is op

[buoyant wagon]

It’s a pretty consistent class now

[bitter lichen]

[cedar zealot]

How will zerker get buffed if you say stuff like that

[stark thicket]

maybe the only booba he wanna see is his slayers!

[buoyant wagon]

Soulfist isn’t a common class, just being bad really sticks out because it’s also another zdps class if bad

[tulip charm]

what....?
its the best coomer class in the game how do you not see gs?

[copper halo]

I wish I hadn't honed my soulfist tbh, it was a fun change of pace when I still played more seriously but now I just want chill classes I can keyboard smash to victory

[cursive ruin]

rs or eo

[thorn sluice]

Wait it’s not real , I made an example

[supple parrot]

its mid tier, we need to be top tier

[cursive ruin]

rs is consistent eo requires playing with hands and legs

[buoyant wagon]

Yes

[cedar zealot]

Agreed

[bitter lichen]

still no one plays tho

[cursive ruin]

oh ok

[thorn sluice]

Icy didn’t say it thank god

[buoyant wagon]

Because most people rerolled

[supple parrot]

there is a lot of 1620+ zerkers on na/eu

[cursive ruin]

People I gatekeep: women class

[uneven mortar]

i really feel bad for gs players lol

absolute zdps

[cursive ruin]

@ icy

[dull obsidian]

Eh

[frail shard]

you are weird then

[buoyant wagon]

Arcana is also consistently a disappointment

[copper halo]

I think I'll replace the soulfist from my top4 roster with something in the next express, once I figure out what that something could be

[bitter lichen]

hot tho

[spark galleon]

how long till NAE dailies reset?

[buoyant wagon]

But hey crit syn

[uneven mortar]

even the one that plays it to ceil still gets beaten by barely above average tier 0 classes player

[cursive ruin]

I"m suggesting icy to add this to his repitoire

[supple parrot]

arcana is mostly a disappointment now

[dull obsidian]

A good gs will best everyone who is not above average if equal

[thorn sluice]

I mean, you are the only guy with talent there

[keen copper]

my main may be zdps, but at least people take me for my crit syn

[thorn sluice]

OFC they disappoint you

[uneven mortar]

if that arcana you play with was quokka you will be singing different tune

[thorn sluice]

Every class disappoint you

[uneven mortar]

you just got unlucky with shit arcna

[buoyant wagon]

The only arcana player I trust is the arcana main in our Chinese friend group

[cursive ruin]

All I'm saying is... have you seen a full male warrior class lobby? sure glue shortage, but brel g3 star does not stand a chance

[wind dagger]

I barely see Arcana players, non existent, summoners gone as well

[bitter lichen]

thanks for supply crit syn for my se

[buoyant wagon]

But the class is just not that common to begin with

[bitter lichen]

appreciate

[tulip charm]

i still think arcana is very strong, i heard its the only mage class with insane stagger, but i learned from chuan to be cautious of arcana players in extreme voldi

[wind dagger]

ur welcome

[cursive ruin]

even the support fucks

[dull obsidian]

Arcanas are strong

[buoyant wagon]

Strong if you have hands

Most people don’t

[supple parrot]

i mean its like sorcs. i know sorcs are strong,but ur more likely to get a wrekk sorc than a feedy sorc u know

thats life

[dull obsidian]

Strongest player in my static are arcanas

[thorn sluice]

[buoyant wagon]

It’s the most infamous example of high floor low ceiling

[copper halo]

having to stay in boundless is such a huge turnoff tbh, fk arcana

[uneven mortar]

[bitter lichen]

emperor does right

[uneven mortar]

get fucked

[thorn sluice]

[bitter lichen]

but u gotta land the evoke

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

Which is why arcana has dodged nerfs patch after patch

[bitter lichen]

x2

[cursive ruin]

@frail shard What do you play bro

[uneven mortar]

[dull obsidian]

They got a small buff last patch

[thorn sluice]

6 sorcs

[dull obsidian]

Kinda insane

[sand marsh]

wtf is a feedy sorc

[cursive ruin]

That sucks

[wind dagger]

his sorcs name

[buoyant wagon]

The problem is your average arcana is doing wind fury tier dps or worse

[cedar zealot]

Feedy = Chuan

[thorn sluice]

Real metachaser

[sand marsh]

i still dont understand

[thorn sluice]

We need you to play it then

When ?

[cedar zealot]

All his alts are named feedy

[dull obsidian]

Hes saying wrekk is shit and he himself is good at sorc

[supple parrot]

its hard talkin to dumb ppl

[bitter lichen]

[cursive ruin]

I wanna dye my hair gray

[sand marsh]

stfu. feed deez nuts

[cedar zealot]

When are you replacing your sorc with se

[dull obsidian]

Never

[cedar zealot]

[bitter lichen]

[dull obsidian]

Sorc permanent 1610 when she gets there

[cedar zealot]

Se is just better sorc

In every way

[cursive ruin]

My sorc is gonna get replaced soon

[buoyant wagon]

[dull obsidian]

My sorc has 9/7

[cedar zealot]

I'm replacing mine next month

[dull obsidian]

Idk

[buoyant wagon]

I don’t know any sorc mains left in my friend circle

[dull obsidian]

Not dropping

[cursive ruin]

sunk cost ☝🏻

[sand marsh]

whats the 7

[buoyant wagon]

All the sorcs they have are perma benched alts

[dull obsidian]

Hit master

[buoyant wagon]

In some cases not even played any more

[sand marsh]

oh nice

[cursive ruin]

enhance dn

[buoyant wagon]

Even though they are 1600+

[dull obsidian]

So I run adrenaline 3 with nightmare rg

[bitter lichen]

scooter

[cursive ruin]

true my sorc is gonna rot in the 7th cfharacter slot until breaker releases

[uneven mortar]

i dont really feel sunk cost lol

[thorn sluice]

I tought it was deadeye xD

[cedar zealot]

Benched till the next balance patch after summer Loa ON

[cursive ruin]

[sand marsh]

why not run cursed doll with hallu

[buoyant wagon]

I have a friend who had the misfortune of being sorc first character and summoner second

[dull obsidian]

Because rgniter is better?

[buoyant wagon]

I never see him on sorc any more

[sand marsh]

ya but isnt adre annoying

[cursive ruin]

Yikes

[supple parrot]

sorc is good tho?

[dull obsidian]

I get my ignite back in like 23s

[buoyant wagon]

Summoner only for dailies

[dull obsidian]

No lmao

[supple parrot]

ms summoner is good too

[cedar zealot]

Farming L's

[supple parrot]

[cursive ruin]

Imagine your introduction to the game being sorc and summoner

[buoyant wagon]

He’s now an aero and se main

[sand marsh]

thought it was annoying to maintain on sorc

or so ive heard

[dull obsidian]

Rg and blaze together keeps up adrenaline

[buoyant wagon]

Both 1630+

[sand marsh]

oh

[cedar zealot]

Tell them to use next express on slayer

[tulip charm]

its too expensive...

[buoyant wagon]

Think he’s going for Esther 8 on se

[velvet estuary]

Adren is piss easy lol

Can do 100% without trying

[buoyant wagon]

After being convinced to not make it on aero

[dull obsidian]

Also don't need to even have adrenaline until ignite

[velvet estuary]

Every class compared to ms is piss easy to maintain adren 💀

[sand marsh]

adre seems like a shitty engraving at level 3 tho when u can take CD/KBW and run hallu

seems like more dmg

[dull obsidian]

But you're spamming it

[bitter lichen]

gargadeez

[dull obsidian]

No lmao

[buoyant wagon]

He’s going 1630 breaker for sure

[velvet estuary]

[cursive ruin]

how do you guys go on about maintaining adre on sorc

[tulip charm]

if they buff summoner again ima use the next thaemine powerpass on it

[cursive ruin]

space out skills or

[dull obsidian]

Rgniter when executed well is a lot stronger

[velvet estuary]

Why would you drop adren if going kbw

[supple parrot]

? wdym, 1 lv10 dmg and and some lv9 cd is too expensive? what? u literally have better than that on ur main

[sand marsh]

cause hallu gives crit rate

[bitter lichen]

do summoners even need abuff

[velvet estuary]

You dont need to spam anything outside of pushing for boundless

[sand marsh]

or is it not enuf

[velvet estuary]

Whys more crit bad

[cedar zealot]

Co needs a rework

[velvet estuary]

You get 55% from ignite and 50% from kbw

[cursive ruin]

I play hallu igniter

[velvet estuary]

Just burn an inferno in ignite or space out blaze

You'll be fine

[dull obsidian]

Hallu igniter is highest floor

[urban obsidian]

ishy

where apjax masterclass

[dull obsidian]

Rgniter is highest ceiling by a lot

[sand marsh]

it just seems better to have a raw dmg engraving than adrenaline. at least when i think about it.

[urban obsidian]

[velvet estuary]

Its not

[dull obsidian]

Nightmare is insane dmg over hallu if you crit

Even if you have adrenaline instead of another full do's engraving

[cursive ruin]

what's a rgniter

[supple parrot]

just highroll crit

[buoyant wagon]

Reverse gravity

[velvet estuary]

Wtf you mean hallu is bad if you ignore crit rate?

[cursive ruin]

nice

[copper halo]

I mainswapped from sorc to summoner when summoner released, good times, good times

[dull obsidian]

I mean

[buoyant wagon]

It’s the ceiling build for igniter

[dull obsidian]

I have like 68% crit rate I think solo

[cursive ruin]

Maybe I should play ceiling build before I delete this character

[urban obsidian]

ishydum

[sand marsh]

what if u have crit synergy in your party? adrenaline seems wasted

[dull obsidian]

But I play with 10-20% crit syn most the time

[buoyant wagon]

My condolences

[still lintel]

does arti got any destruction while in wheelchair?

[frail shard]

@cursive ruin 1 sorc 1 wd 1 destro 1 glaivier 1 slayer 1 artist << gold earning char on east roster

[copper halo]

my entire lost ark journey is like a list of errors and fuckups

[dull obsidian]

Because my static member has 5 crit syn in main 6 lmao

[velvet estuary]

You can still play adr 1 with syns

[buoyant wagon]

DB main from start to end

No mistake yet

[velvet estuary]

You can also you know, not run the 2nd crit syn lol

[cursive ruin]

damn that destro gettting all the chicks in the character selection screen

[steel minnow]

Yoo guys anyone did voldis with their support?

[bitter lichen]

until db nerf

[thorn sluice]

Damn you play all kind of DPS

Front back and hitnaster

[supple parrot]

That sounds too high to be true unless u have master set elixir

[sand marsh]

ya but if u have crit synergy and ur 9/7 stone is hit master, wouldnt not running adre result in more dmg?

[cursive ruin]

Me too

[sand marsh]

esp if u include master elixir

[cursive ruin]

I play front, hit, back

[buoyant wagon]

At least db still has valuable synergies

[thorn sluice]

I never tried front

[dull obsidian]

Let me calculate it next time I'm on smoge

[frail shard]

nah i keep my glaivier and destro bcs east bus discord lack of stagger bots

[dull obsidian]

I'm in bed

[frail shard]

i just need more tags

[velvet estuary]

Why are you allergic to crit rate

[urban obsidian]

nyooo

[cursive ruin]

Make sure you got rubber

[velvet estuary]

97 you'll most likely play nm with adren 2/3

[dull obsidian]

Yeh which is where I am

[frail shard]

i have full 1600 expertise 600 swift glaivier build

[bitter lichen]

[frail shard]

melts all stagger check

[cursive ruin]

Any particular reason you chose glaivier for a stag bott

[thorn sluice]

[dull obsidian]

Guys how much is 650 crit in actual crit rate

[sand marsh]

im not. but at some point it seems like diminishing returns over other engravings. crit synergy plus master should put you at like 80% something right

[supple parrot]

Just play hallu sorc

[urban obsidian]

@dull obsidian wtf

[dull obsidian]

Hehe

[steel minnow]

@sand marsh 100% critrate with kbw makes kbw 23% engraving

[velvet estuary]

Everything has diminishing returns. Thats a terrible argument

[urban obsidian]

[steel minnow]

22%

[frail shard]

bcs i play control glaivier where all skills is just pressing buttons. your only requirement is to have hands to play

[cursive ruin]

Nice

[frail shard]

and glaivier as stagger bot is really good

[cursive ruin]

Is glaivier fun as a class

[frail shard]

destro is best

[cursive ruin]

Not as stag bot

[frail shard]

yes

i enjoy constant dps as control

[thorn sluice]

Eugene do you do buses

[sand marsh]

if ur at 80% crit ur saying u rather take adrenaline over CD at level 3?

[velvet estuary]

Yes

[dull obsidian]

22%~ crit stat
25% igniter
15% adrenaline
4% precise
@supple parrot

[urban obsidian]

if you have a sorc 9/7 ur not gonna be playing hallu anyways

[stark thicket]

[urban obsidian]

[copper halo]

control is really fun and smooth (and simple)

[sand marsh]

master gives 7 right

[dull obsidian]

Yeh

[copper halo]

If you like playing swiftness entropy

[velvet estuary]

Adren is mandatory on sorc

[supple parrot]

Oh u have 4% precise on bracelet

[cursive ruin]

I should make a glaivier sometimes

[frail shard]

swiftness entropy give it 1600 expertise you melt ashtaros stagger check in 3seconds

[dull obsidian]

Yeh it's BIS

[copper halo]

but might want to give taijutsu or first intention a go if you do, don't think there's going to be a glaivier rework again any time soon

[velvet estuary]

Just have to adjust things whether level 1 or 3
If you are playing 0 levels of adren, you better be playing with statics syns and high rolling

[urban obsidian]

only 4%

where 5% precise

[thorn sluice]

I agree

[dull obsidian]

Bro stfu

I haven't seen leg precise ever

[urban obsidian]

[dull obsidian]

[urban obsidian]

i saw it recently

[sand marsh]

crit synergy is 10% right?

[urban obsidian]

on a stagger bot bracelet!

[thorn sluice]

I have it on my WD

[dull obsidian]

Yeh

[urban obsidian]

my db has a BiS stagger bot bracelet lmao

[buoyant wagon]

The only legendary I have never see are expose weakness and cheer

[urban obsidian]

spec/expertise main stat

[sand marsh]

so you'd be losing 5% crit if u jus take out adrenaline, doesnt seem terrible

[buoyant wagon]

Maybe dagger

[urban obsidian]

then precise and the 2 expertise adding ones

[cursive ruin]

make dn

[frail shard]

i run 3 engravings only as stagger bot tho xd

[dull obsidian]

But I play with crit syn in everything

My blade runs critical because it's BIS for my static

[buoyant wagon]

The striker in my ivory has expose/precise/fervor or circulate on his bracelet

[dull obsidian]

I'm perma juices up 22.5% crit syn

[buoyant wagon]

Some people never suffer

[steel minnow]

@frail shard i gatekeep control

[dull obsidian]

Wtf that's insane brace lmao

Crit spec too?

[buoyant wagon]

Yeah

[frail shard]

gatekeep me in your bed

[buoyant wagon]

Like 80 crit 100 spec

[dull obsidian]

He's juiced holy

Assuming insane quals he meets highest breakpoint too

[urban obsidian]

nyoo

[dull obsidian]

[urban obsidian]

i got adc ishy

[buoyant wagon]

I have 2 rolls left on mine for a chance at a 5 liner

[dull obsidian]

Gg

[sand marsh]

i think thats all the most reason to swap out adren. you would be losing 5% crit if you include scenarios where there's no crit synergy, which is most of the time.

[buoyant wagon]

I have blue circulate gold fervor and gold mp recovery

[bitter lichen]

someone buy my anniversary panties pls

[dull obsidian]

Why would I swap out adrenaline

Wtf?

I lose 15% crit rate

[buoyant wagon]

If last one becomes precise then gggggg

[cursive ruin]

KEKVVVVVV

[supple parrot]

Scalp is dumb

[buoyant wagon]

But mp recovery is usable enough to not reroll so far

[urban obsidian]

gotta cut some shitter stones and some shitter bracelets to use up the bad luck

then boom you roll lego precise

[sand marsh]

22%~ crit stat
25% igniter
15% adrenaline
4% precise
vs
22%~ crit stat
25% igniter
10% crit synergy
4% precise

is what im saying

[dull obsidian]

Ceiling goes to the moon sure but my floor drops to literal 500 feet under

???

[urban obsidian]

AWOOGA

[buoyant wagon]

I used up all my luck

[urban obsidian]

geegee

go next

[buoyant wagon]

I got circulate and fervor together on one roll when relic

[dull obsidian]

Why would I not want my crit rate to be 80%

[urban obsidian]

ah fuck im against an ad tf

ishy im doomed

[buoyant wagon]

Where’s your adblock

bad joke I know

[urban obsidian]

oh someone dodged

[cursive ruin]

I need 2 level 9 gems asap rocky

[urban obsidian]

im blocking you

[cursive ruin]

they're 100k a pop

2 lv9 gems so I can get gatekept from kakul with style

[sand marsh]

i dont play sorc, but my tai scrapper for example, is below 80% and I don't see white numbers often

[dull obsidian]

??

[urban obsidian]

???

bro what

lmao

[dull obsidian]

If I build up gauge for 23s

And miss crit

I'm going to off myself

[sand marsh]

ya but if u do crit, its bigger number

jus crit

[dull obsidian]

Because I'll be 4x3+2

[cursive ruin]

I bought a small una bag cuz I'm desperate for gold

never punished

[frail shard]

nice conversation about sorc

[urban obsidian]

ISHY GET BACK ON YOUR PC I REQUIRE YOUR ASSITANCE

IT IS TIME

[dull obsidian]

On average my dps will drop

[frail shard]

go swap main to sorc please

[still lintel]

AP JAX

[dull obsidian]

Because no crits will now do 0 dmg

[sand marsh]

what if u didnt have a crit syn