lost-ark-discussions

[buoyant wagon]

And made the changes accordingly

[sand marsh]

Sure but why would you go out of your way to nerf vykas as they did and not touch clown?

Forgot clown existed? Lol

[buoyant wagon]

I mean they should nerf clown still

But it’s not as impactful now

Because it’s obsolete content

[sand marsh]

why did they think vykas was impactufl

[swift tree]

Not Skeleton Crew, but again, individual teams get screwed by management... no doubt AGS uppers are funnelling money into Blue Protocol now.

[sand marsh]

impactful

it was still obsolete content.

[buoyant wagon]

Korea and global walk so China can run

[sand marsh]

the thought process is very confusing to me

[buoyant wagon]

Were the testing grounds for them

[uneven mortar]

bps gonna be ded on arrival just like TL

[swift tree]

Part of the business model is the consider a game dead after 24 months as "it has made most of the money it ever will" etc.

[buoyant wagon]

Because they are the last region to release

[uneven mortar]

lost ark is already on bau mode

[buoyant wagon]

Also this goes back to the whole contract negotiation part

[uneven mortar]

right now lol

[sand marsh]

We got the vykas change in september 2023. Vykas was obsolete content. But the devs somehow thought it was a good idea to implement and forgot about clown. In addition to removing kaya g1.

[buoyant wagon]

Tencent definitely has a lot more power than AGS does in their publishing contract

[sand marsh]

I'm just confused by this.

[buoyant wagon]

Because Tencent is sufficiently influential and has the pedigree to do so

[obtuse oyster]

cause you have to do vykas to get relic gear

you can techincally skip clown and just do kaya

[buoyant wagon]

AGS is a literal small indie studio that flopped their $200-500m budget mmo

[obtuse oyster]

for set level

[fallen vigil]

tencent could literally lobby the ccp to not allow lost ark being published in china

[buoyant wagon]

And has no publishing experience

[fallen vigil]

ofc they have power

[sand marsh]

That change did not occur in September 2023 from my memory.

Maybe it did.

[buoyant wagon]

You know that tencent has nearly triple AGS’s experience in years in terms of managing and developing big hit titles?

[sand marsh]

But even if you can skip clown,its still a gold earner until 1580.

[uneven mortar]

[obtuse oyster]

not everyone is maximizing there gold

[uneven mortar]

wym triple isnt all mmo published by tencent

[obtuse oyster]

some people here still do valtan for gold

when they shouldn't

[swift tree]

Still a gold earning raid for a character below 1580 though

[quiet igloo]

i cant even do clown -_-

[buoyant wagon]

They’re also one of tencent’s most profitable divisions, the gaming division

[quiet igloo]

never tried learning it

[uneven mortar]

i rememebr even 10 years ago they publish bns

[buoyant wagon]

AGS is irrelevant to Amazon

[quiet igloo]

[buoyant wagon]

And they flopped their first major title

[swift tree]

You can tell with who they chose for leadership 💀

[sand marsh]

Okay. Fair point. But taking a level 1 set person into kayangel? Really?

[fallen vigil]

i think ags was just a pet project for bezos so he could make a LoR mmo

[sand marsh]

I don't think they thought it through if you ask me.

[obtuse oyster]

Kaya bus exist, and some people can sneak through or get carried by friends

[supple parrot]

Pretty sure ags been operating on a loss for like 10 years

[swift tree]

Wasn't even to do with Amazon when that was announced, it was a CN company with its own US studio being made

[quiet igloo]

icee carry me in kaya

[uneven mortar]

no way man, they put 0 effort kn wverything

[fallen vigil]

who remembers crucilbe

[quiet igloo]

ik ur 1655 main can carry

[uneven mortar]

all they do is publish and get paid

[obtuse oyster]

[sand marsh]

I guess.. but if the devs came to that conclusion and thats why they did not nerf clown, that would be disappointing.

[quiet igloo]

[supple parrot]

? U know they been in business for a long time. And lost ark is prob the first profitable project they had

[obtuse oyster]

Honestly, they probably didn't care to nerf it or saw n o reason too

[fallen vigil]

really i could've sworn they've announced a LoR mmo in the future i could be mistaken

[buoyant wagon]

They have a $500m a year budget

[uneven mortar]

really? i thought new world is like 3-4 yrs old too

[buoyant wagon]

Per an interview in 2021

[ancient tundra]

When are you free

[sand marsh]

Cared enough for CN apparently. Which is what I find interesting. The reason is obvious but still lol

[uneven mortar]

500m a year doing what?

[supple parrot]

U think they made money on new world? Delusional

[buoyant wagon]

Problem is they wasted most of that budget on new world

And it didn’t do well

[tulip charm]

i don't know their history except i heard new worlds tanked very hard

[supple parrot]

They 100% loss money

[uneven mortar]

oh

[supple parrot]

On new world

[buoyant wagon]

They also cancelled several projects that were in concurrent development along with new world

[tulip charm]

even though the game got huge hype on release

and it should not have tanked

[uneven mortar]

to be fair though they dont understand coom sells

[obtuse oyster]

Tencent probably has more say on what they can do for their region

[fallen vigil]

new world

[sand marsh]

So you think AGS is a loss leader for amazon?

[supple parrot]

They weren’t gonna make their money back with a 30 dollar box price

[obtuse oyster]

cause I doubt that's SG pushing for the nerfs

[supple parrot]

They had to make money off mtx but the game died too fast

[buoyant wagon]

Coom sells but has bad perception in the Twitter verse of the west at game launch

[quiet igloo]

im contemplating trying to learn brel 1-2 rn. its 3:30 am tho so idk if i can get a lobby together

[tulip charm]

i am not sure how new worlds operate, i didn't play it

[spare scaffold]

need to look up AGS cuz nothing came to mind.

[quiet igloo]

[spare scaffold]

[buoyant wagon]

Women don’t like sexual objectification and are a lot more vocal about it in the west

[quiet igloo]

not enough degen andies rn

[sand marsh]

Outside of money, I wonder why AGS does not. Unless it's literally just money that is the motivating factor.

[ancient tundra]

Kinda late ngl

[uneven mortar]

western game gets put into alot of scrutiny by sjws

[sand marsh]

Wish AGS would communicate more.

[ancient tundra]

To find one

[dull obsidian]

Holy shit I got 2x S and 1x M honing pack

[quiet igloo]

mh

[obtuse oyster]

probably however the contract was negotiated

[fallen vigil]

but what about the rights of npc's

[buoyant wagon]

Meanwhile feminism is dead in Korea

[quiet igloo]

what

[supple parrot]

I mean plenty of businesses operate on a loss. Twitch for example has never been profitable

[buoyant wagon]

And doesn’t really exist in Japan and China

[ancient tundra]

Maybe try later today bro

[obtuse oyster]

Tencent as a whole has a lot more pull when it comes to most games

[fallen vigil]

not true

[swift tree]

Leyou (Warframe Publisher) announced they were making a LOTR MMO in licensing the game with M-E Enterprises.
New Studio being made in Cali called Athlon Games.
Amazon becomes a publishing partner for US release after announcement, offering to help market it alongside TV Series flop.
TV Series Flops.
Tencent buys out Leyou, which voids the contract with M-E Enterpises and the license holder cancels project.
Athlon Studios is closed as their only game is dead.

Amazon announces 2 years later that they're making their own MMORPG.

[uneven mortar]

but tbh they do it equally both for male and female

[sand marsh]

I wonder if that contract is what was advertised when LA released to the west "Expedited raid content with expedited progression" (looks at the last 6 months) lmao.

[quiet igloo]

lets talk ab less polarizing topics guys :/

[uneven mortar]

look at striker and zerkers body

[quiet igloo]

[tulip charm]

i am extremely offended the new shadow hunter skins isn't black

[buoyant wagon]

Male gamers don’t really give as much of a shit about objectification of male avatars

[tulip charm]

its not following the lore

[buoyant wagon]

As female gamers do

[delicate sandal]

@sand marshlets duo brel

[quiet igloo]

[buoyant wagon]

Why do you think western developed games are increasingly making their female characters more “gritty and realistic”

[fallen vigil]

legendary moment in lost ark history

[uneven mortar]

looking at d4 chars its like what thebfuck am i seeing

[obtuse oyster]

cause they are too busy cooming over their female characters

[buoyant wagon]

Instead of letting you make them kpop supermodels

[tulip charm]

no one rembers this but until very recently berserker had hanumatan arms lol

[swift tree]

Pretty sure if you dress up action heros in a thong people would start complaining.

[spare scaffold]

unless man has whole bakery,
most ppl even female tend to pick female ingame cuz they didnt want to see flat cake 24/7

[sand marsh]

we cant talk about that in here. apparently discord has a 'policy' about peer to peer transactions in a video game and this is a partnered server. (refuse to believe this)

[fallen vigil]

interesting

[buoyant wagon]

Because developers are scared of the progressive left wing pushback on social media

[swift tree]

Objectification =/= Power Fantasy tbh

[buoyant wagon]

Over beauty standards

[uneven mortar]

and thats holding them back so much

[buoyant wagon]

Lmao did you see the Aerith apex skin

[uneven mortar]

kpop supermodels is what keeps some people attention

[quiet igloo]

what that's actually a thing? sounds weird

[buoyant wagon]

That’s a great example

[quiet igloo]

[swift tree]

Something something, because the controversy to Odyssey and Forbidden West really put a dent in sales ./s

[uneven mortar]

you think ill still play lost skr if it has western female mmo body?

fuck no

[quiet igloo]

i still would

[sand marsh]

dont ask me. ask gravvy. thats what he said. its why the bussing promotion channels that would of existed in here never came to pass.

[delicate sandal]

r u hinting something???

[quiet igloo]

idk what western female looks like so

[uneven mortar]

no man in the mmo

[sand marsh]

apparently he was told by discord that it cant be talked about

[swift tree]

I still would... that being said if they made the warriors look different I wouldn't have been on-board initially as much.

[buoyant wagon]

You can’t advertise busses here

[uneven mortar]

gritty and realistic

[dull obsidian]

Wdf

[buoyant wagon]

You can talk about them

[dull obsidian]

underboob toki

[buoyant wagon]

lol what

[quiet igloo]

[sand marsh]

nah i got muted the other day

[quiet igloo]

what ab it

[buoyant wagon]

Not even official discord bans you from telling other players to buy a bus

[sand marsh]

dunno who did it

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

there is nothing wrong with d4 characters, shorely people will play this over gunslinger

[buoyant wagon]

There is no way this discord mutes you for taking about busses

[quiet igloo]

fuck no

[ancient tundra]

What the

Hell nah

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/toki-blue-archive-peace-sign-peace-peace-peace-gif-27601721

[quiet igloo]

id never play that

[buoyant wagon]

You’re just not allowed to advertise them or share the bussing servers

[uneven mortar]

[sand marsh]

didn't advertise. discussed it

[quiet igloo]

i want -_-

don't have her yet

[buoyant wagon]

Maybe there’s one mod with a stick up their ass about their rule or you were being excessive

Who knows

[dull obsidian]

LF 6 other competent GAMERS FOR ECLIPSE 7C1 BUS WEEK 1

[supple parrot]

Get rekt loser

[quiet igloo]

[buoyant wagon]

I’ve seen people ask about bus info in help channel

[delicate sandal]

yea but just saying duo brel doesnt mean its a bus we could be doing a good deed and helping out new ppl

[sand marsh]

@mods

[supple parrot]

Ok I’m in.

[buoyant wagon]

Short of asking for the bus server they were fine

[supple parrot]

Is event gems ok?

[dull obsidian]

yes

[uneven mortar]

when i saw this i know im never playing western mmo ever again

[supple parrot]

Ok I’m in

[delicate sandal]

chuan and competent dont go together

[uneven mortar]

lol

[tulip charm]

how much gold does the 1c pay?

[dull obsidian]

I wouldn't even know lmao

[quiet igloo]

5mil

[ancient tundra]

Lol ?

[quiet igloo]

[sand marsh]

My original point is that gravvy told me that discussing bussing is not allowed because discord does not allow it. Even though its not against the games ToS or discord ToS (from my knowledge).

[uneven mortar]

i thought its like 500k

[supple parrot]

It was 1 mil on kr

[quiet igloo]

nah its 9bil

[sand marsh]

Apparently he was told by discord.

[ancient tundra]

Wtf it s legit 1m ?

[supple parrot]

The first mode carry? Yes

[quiet igloo]

its a high end raid fuego

[supple parrot]

Prob cheaper now on kr

[ancient tundra]

Ye but na better learn it instead of paying

Holy

[sand marsh]

@nova garden pay up bucko

1mil

the first carry

[supple parrot]

I mean it’s a 1 time thing like hell mode for title

[quiet igloo]

plus who wouldn't want to see echidna week one or twowithout having to do anything

[dull obsidian]

pretty sure

[quiet igloo]

ik id pay

[dull obsidian]

there sno more the first busses

the title is gone

[quiet igloo]

or thaemine

[sand marsh]

im surprised no one is buying ex-hard bus for valtan

[dull obsidian]

valtan is 3 time thing

[tulip charm]

there prob will be soon

[supple parrot]

I mean buses won’t be available til the top groups get transcendence and shit

[buoyant wagon]

It’s never been a consistently enforced discord rule

Official Diablo 4 discord allows you to sell similar services

[sand marsh]

its a peer to peer transaction. i fail to understand the discrepancy.

[supple parrot]

There are. I see lobbies for it earlier

[sand marsh]

price?

[buoyant wagon]

It started from WoW ironically

[quiet igloo]

[buoyant wagon]

Blizzard allegedly got discord to shut down some EU carry servers

[sand marsh]

really? wtf lol

[supple parrot]

I think 60k? Or something which is kinda stupid

[sand marsh]

Oh wow. Almost as much as voldis on NAE

which is 70k

[swift tree]

I mean for most ToS as long as it doesn't involved 3 party tools that give an unfair advantage, it directly harms another player or does something that messes with IP, creative control or is at risk of being illegal most of the time it's free-reign.

[supple parrot]

[spare scaffold]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/406657514755850240/1040467793256128592/1017572385311957015.gif?=

[sand marsh]

Right. this makes sense. just not sure why discord gave the warning.

[quiet igloo]

people actually buy voldis busses????

[sand marsh]

but apparently its because of blizzard

[quiet igloo]

[sand marsh]

yeah?

[quiet igloo]

tf

[sand marsh]

birthday bash event

also legendary elixir

[buoyant wagon]

Honestly I think it’s more of

[swift tree]

Blizzard ones I guess skirted the line of being RMT.

[buoyant wagon]

Allowing player services to be sold on a public server meant for general game discussion

Looks bad for the server

[quiet igloo]

i will never buy any busses above brel lmao

way too expensive

[buoyant wagon]

Especially when the services aren’t integral to the game

[swift tree]

that too lol

[fallen vigil]

i got carried in voldis for free friends most op weapon i have

[swift tree]

I was talking about actual in-game rules

[buoyant wagon]

Unlike in an ARPG where player to player transactions matter a lot more

[sand marsh]

Gravvy was implementing a bot and bus-specific channels. It wasn't going to be in a general channel. had to scrap the whole thing after being told not too do it.

[supple parrot]

If ur a broke boi just say so

[tidal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cattitude-chat-chats-gif-17604571

[buoyant wagon]

Discord has never been consistent anyways

[spare scaffold]

[quiet igloo]

i could buy like 10 mil gold rn if i wanted to

[sand marsh]

Yeah ig

[buoyant wagon]

Likely AGS requested it

[tulip charm]

@supple parrot @quartz turret no frog today sorry, i logged, did too many raids, fatigued, gonna eat late and go sleep

[buoyant wagon]

Along with discord

[quartz turret]

jailge

[sand marsh]

This is most likely what happened. Which is odd. AGS doesn't own this discord.

Why would ags care lmao

[supple parrot]

is there any raid lobbies on nae

I’m afk

[tulip charm]

how do we vote for you? i see 6 reactions on your submition, idk if that counts as votes, i think its winning

[supple parrot]

Can someone check for me

[buoyant wagon]

Per Icy, they specifically requested this server to not tolerate meter posting

[sand marsh]

Reasoning?

[buoyant wagon]

Well it’s against TOS lol

[supple parrot]

U can’t vote. It’s not a democracy. @rigid aurora and the tyrants decide prob

[buoyant wagon]

And unlike admitting to rmt which anyone can pretend to do

[sand marsh]

But it's not being posted in the actual game.

[quiet igloo]

for what

[buoyant wagon]

Posting meter is flagrantly admitting you are violating rules

[supple parrot]

Any lobbies up on nae

[sand marsh]

Does the TOS say anything about posting screenshots of meter on a social media platform? Lol.

[delicate sandal]

@sand marshu decided who u r making when breaker comes out?

[supple parrot]

For like nm valtan extreme

Or something

[sand marsh]

probably just gonna use the express event on a paladin

[supple parrot]

Doesn’t have to. They reserve the right to ban ur ass for anything they deem worthy

[quiet igloo]

nah its pretty dead rn

[delicate sandal]

wait dont u get a pp too?

make a GL

[sand marsh]

sure. they could ban u tomorrow for being too sus. this is true.

[sand marsh]

ehhhh

[quiet igloo]

[delicate sandal]

but i bet u might make a breaker cuz u like making bad decisions

[stark thicket]

guys i had a nightmare, it was like a game, you are in a team and you have to safely get to a safezone, the only way to do that was moving through movie theaters that were on trains. You have to pick your place you want to sit, near exits. They release killers that target areas that were already chosen. I made it to a safezone then wone up

[supple parrot]

But they won’t cuz I’m a pillar of the community and a law abiding citizen unlike u

[sand marsh]

lmao

[quiet igloo]

[sand marsh]

u got jokes

[supple parrot]

U got banned

From official

[sand marsh]

banned?

[quiet igloo]

u only made it to safe zone bc i let u

[supple parrot]

For a day

[sand marsh]

no

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

i got muted sir

[quiet igloo]

[sand marsh]

difference

[supple parrot]

Same shit

[sand marsh]

u got banned from here

ur not law abiding

[supple parrot]

Got ur mentor role taken away

Rip bozo

[quiet igloo]

chill

[supple parrot]

[stark thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-verne-over-the-hedge-turtle-disbelief-gif-24744867

[full igloo]

why everyone get muted or ban in the official discord ?

[sand marsh]

[full igloo]

[quartz turret]

man ppl so bad at ex valtan

[supple parrot]

How far did u get

[quiet igloo]

man nobody asked

[spare scaffold]

[sand marsh]

Yeah I got it taken away because i posted a copy pasta of a factual statement.

[buoyant wagon]

Oh I guess the D4 server nuked wts channels

[supple parrot]

I mean it is to be expected. Valtan lobbies usually half ppl are dead at start of ghost

[sand marsh]

Dont really care. that discord is heavily censored

[quartz turret]

ppl dying before ghost and we just reset each time

[lean pewter]

I just had sorc in challenge guardian that did less dps than support

[buoyant wagon]

Though it could be due to trade being disabled for so long in that game

[spare scaffold]

i tried to be artist main,
but ended up being zerk

[stark thicket]

Its because your not afk enough

[supple parrot]

2 death = kick

[full igloo]

you forsake your cute energy to be a bald man

[stark thicket]

[buoyant wagon]

Other games do this too

Namely FF14

[sand marsh]

Bruh FF14 is such a joke when it comes to addons.

fuck that game

[supple parrot]

I need valtan extreme normal on nae

[buoyant wagon]

Actually not really

[supple parrot]

Or should I hone to 1620

[buoyant wagon]

You just can’t associate your account directly with logs

Like streaming it

[quiet igloo]

just make your own lobby

[buoyant wagon]

You can post it in the subreddit discord

[supple parrot]

[quiet igloo]

keep in mind tho, its 4am

[buoyant wagon]

And it’s fine

[stark thicket]

make this

[buoyant wagon]

But if Square Enix catches you streaming it you get banned

[tulip charm]

we have opposite problem today mid prog, everyone gets to ghost alive, then 4 people always die lol

[buoyant wagon]

However they don’t lurk on discord

[sand marsh]

Yeah which is extremely dumb. We all know why it's not allowed.

[supple parrot]

That’s what I mean

Ppl literally get grabbed

By first gtab

When it’s so scripted

[buoyant wagon]

They don’t care if as long as aren’t showing you are using it while playing

[tulip charm]

i didn't get grabbed, but i think some char if your stuck in animation your just screwed

and

you can't spacebar the grab right?

or super armor it

[supple parrot]

U all go behind boss. Boss do spin. U stack at 3 then move out. Dps. Do 1 counter. Sometimes 2 and boss will grab . U dodge and dps

[sand marsh]

You can spacebar it i think

[supple parrot]

It’s free

[spare scaffold]

tried making my zerk as hunk old man,
ended up as normal looking middle age dude

[supple parrot]

Well why would anyone be stuck in animation u know exactly when it’s coming

[quiet igloo]

disgusting zerker

[wintry crypt]

give him fluffier beard

[quiet igloo]

[spare scaffold]

true

[wintry crypt]

[sand marsh]

should be able too since it's a red telegraph, most red telegraphs in this game can be spacebarred through.

[spare scaffold]

i like clean cut beard oldman

[sand marsh]

In fact, i cant think of one that u cant spacebar through

[tulip charm]

i think that one is an exception but i am not 100% sure

[wintry crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/beard-bearded-hot-touchit-full-gif-3921532278058218603

[full igloo]

give off daddy vibe

[quiet igloo]

[sand marsh]

U can spacebar akkan grab

but maybe valtan is diff

[spare scaffold]

oldman i want

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/406657514755850240/1040467793256128592/1017572385311957015.gif?=

[supple parrot]

U can’t space bar it. U have to be out of it

Have to space bar before he grab

Which isn’t hard. Just don’t waste space bar

[spare scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/isaac-eternal-return-clap-isaac-eternal-return-clap-gif-17346267168573388217

[supple parrot]

Esp when u know it’s coming

[sand marsh]

Yeah it's not hard. I think i've always spacebarrd before grab. Never tried too when he does the grab though

[swift tree]

Literally me but not as fluffy.

[uneven mortar]

wait so you cant 7c1 extreme baltissy?

[sand marsh]

4c4/5c3/6c2

[wintry crypt]

you have a curly mustache?

[swift tree]

If I don't trim it, yeah

[spare scaffold]

its funny how short beard are prickly to touch,
but the long one pretty bushy

[supple parrot]

Ain’t no way u 4c4 lol what

Prob 6 minimum

[wintry crypt]

[urban obsidian]

NO

no

you can 4c4 it

[wintry crypt]

That’s handsome

[urban obsidian]

helltan is 4c4able too

[wintry crypt]

[sand marsh]

You can. You dont need 5 people for the 5 counter mech

[supple parrot]

What u just pray u don’t get freeze?

[urban obsidian]

flame nades

[sand marsh]

Throw flame preemptively.

[urban obsidian]

theres a tell for it

[supple parrot]

[brazen smelt]

Do ppl have enough damage for 4c4?

[urban obsidian]

mhm

[supple parrot]

I guess if everyone is maxed out

[tulip charm]

berserker is op man

can buss ex valtan with 5 people

[supple parrot]

Wait u can’t do 5 counter with 4 ppl

[sand marsh]

You can TS

[urban obsidian]

you ts counter and hellfire

[tulip charm]

wait what? wtf?

i didn't know this

we never had a issue with hellfire orbs

[supple parrot]

Well they made it ts’able that one patch. Didn’t know it also applied to hell

[tulip charm]

but i ddn't know you could ts the counter, i thought it was fatal

[sand marsh]

You can TS one of them.

also hellfire ofc.

[supple parrot]

Seems Sus af

[sand marsh]

a strat is a strat

[tulip charm]

try it next week

the week after i meant

[supple parrot]

Nah I’ll just do the mechs

[sand marsh]

no TS

[tulip charm]

i still can't believe you guys had a guy that triggered spincyle counter mech lol

like out of all the mechs, why that one

no one ever bricks that one

[supple parrot]

Just never accept arcana

[tulip charm]

thats a op class though, like a class that can do everything

[supple parrot]

Ya and they trigger it

[dull obsidian]

yeh

[supple parrot]

90% of the time

[dull obsidian]

don't accept emperor arcanas

or evoke empresses

[supple parrot]

Literal joke

[dull obsidian]

they will proc it 30% of the time

[supple parrot]

We were at it for like 2-3 hours. We had like 2 retaliations that didn’t go off

In that time

[swift tree]

Seen evoke wipe a raid on retal a bunch of times when a friend was trying to clear.

[tulip charm]

quokka is empress arcana main and its cracked

literally can do everything including stagger with tenticles

[swift tree]

Damage is great, but evoke can wipe the raid.

[tulip charm]

idk why more people don't play that class more often, seems very underrated

[swift tree]

wait nvm you're all talking about Vykas

[dull obsidian]

arthritus

[swift tree]

Arcana is really good when played well though

[urban obsidian]

omg

ishy

its saturday

[supple parrot]

Not worth the risk

[urban obsidian]

yknow what that means?

https://tenor.com/view/the-apothecary-diaries-apothecary-diaries-apothecary-anime-kusuriya-no-hitorigoto-anime-happy-gif-11571288879474603294

[sand marsh]

today is saturday?

wtf

[quiet igloo]

[supple parrot]

[quiet igloo]

scalp losin it

[swift tree]

well into it my guy

[sand marsh]

how is it saturday???

hello?

[supple parrot]

i swear nae

is just full ofrice eaters

there is no way rmt isnt rampant here

[brazen smelt]

[sand marsh]

?????????

[stark thicket]

looks like october 2 2024 to me

[supple parrot]

? all these "alt rosters" farming gold in vykas and valtan

[swift tree]

Because the rice eaters are well earning North-East players that pay directly to AGS

[supple parrot]

where the gold going

[sand marsh]

SA brother

o shit

awwww

gate 4

[supple parrot]

thats g4

u blind

[sand marsh]

i got my hopes up man

[tulip charm]

feels bad for that g2-4 guy lol

his basicly screwed for the week

[swift tree]

You join: "Bruh, I got out of that G2 those idiots are stuck in only to be jailed in G4. Looks like they're still at it"

[spare scaffold]

still sad that there's no female artillery

[stark thicket]

dont make fun of him

[swift tree]

How do people still not notice the red lines at x95?

[quiet igloo]

[sand marsh]

??

[dull obsidian]

dude this never goes throug

wtf

I've been waiting so long

[swift tree]

Boss pulses and red ooze shoots out to where the divided ones will spawn

[dull obsidian]

rip

+10 rest

[sand marsh]

oh. people notice that

or at least.. i hope so

[swift tree]

Given the amount of people "lost" and missing counter...

Meanwhile I'm in the middle trying to floss

[sand marsh]

dam i need to make a guide then

its that bad huh

[delicate sandal]

@sand marshr u tryna get chuan into ivory?

[sand marsh]

ya

[delicate sandal]

with what character

[frail shard]

can you build 5x3 + 1 with 4/3 acc?

book is 12/12

[sand marsh]

was gonna go on my scrapper

[swift tree]

If there's enough time for me to be in middle... see I don't have 2 eyes, run out to the empty spot and counter... something is wrong when people miss it :L

[delicate sandal]

u got no juicers for his trash looking pisotleer

[sand marsh]

hes 1619 or sum shit

[delicate sandal]

hes sus looking still

[sand marsh]

uhh prolly

depending on stoner

[frail shard]

stone is 7/6

[sand marsh]

oh. no u cant

[dull obsidian]

need 8/6

[sand marsh]

[dull obsidian]

I couldn't get into a sonavel for 10 mins

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

for some reason

there was like 100 supports

[delicate sandal]

@dull obsidianwhat r u doing

[dull obsidian]

in the last 10 mins

[delicate sandal]

come double dip

[dull obsidian]

too late

[delicate sandal]

field boss

[dull obsidian]

ngmi

[delicate sandal]

u have 3 min

[swift tree]

RESET (for NAE)

[dull obsidian]

@delicate sandal taxi me to ch 1

[delicate sandal]

say something

u declined me?

[sand marsh]

[dull obsidian]

Oh someone else invited me

and its full

[delicate sandal]

wtf

ppl dont taxi my aero when i ask for it

[dull obsidian]

I got in and got a hitmaster book

+1400

[delicate sandal]

omg

it dropped for me

finally

holy

[spare scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-black-guy-shocked-gif-27437284

[supple parrot]

1 card away from klc 30 ill get it next week with frog select

[delicate sandal]

@sand marshu still helping him get in?

@sand marshcan u do a frog with my sorc?

[cursive ruin]

is "kr got legendary skins year 5" the new "no kingdom ruled through fear is worth ruling"

[buoyant wagon]

Pretty much

But it’s a lot dumber of a thing to get riled up for

[cursive ruin]

dead chat

no NA frogs thank god

[keen copper]

go get ur skill points net

[cursive ruin]

See I don't really care about leggo skins since I don't buy em

But these dumb responses are making me feel dizzy

[sand marsh]

someone kidnapped for it alrdy sory

[delicate sandal]

lmg chuan

[cursive ruin]

hey deathboi have you been muted from the official discord today

[sand marsh]

no

[buoyant wagon]

There wasn’t any response they could have given

That would have satisfied people

Though saying “we have no plans to currently give out a legendary skin” is less memeable

[keen copper]

expecting free leg skins when the new ones arent even out for us yet

[buoyant wagon]

[sand marsh]

they could of given us the current legendary skins we have for free

shrug

[supple parrot]

i mean lego skin is giga cheap right now in ah ne ways

[keen copper]

and then people are mad we didnt get the new ones

[cursive ruin]

could've

[keen copper]

old leg skins are old, people want shiney new stuff

[sand marsh]

cant satisfy everyone

could of done the bare minimum tho

[cursive ruin]

could've

[lean pewter]

they could've just given us those 5 elixirs instead of re-editing promotional picture

[mental berry]

people dont care about not having leg skins even though they could just buy them if they want them, they just care about not getting free shit for doing nothing

[lean pewter]

wtf was that about

[sand marsh]

this isn't true lol. it was insinuated we would get them based upon previous advertisements. sure people shouldn't of gotten their hopes up. but we are expedited region, it would be expected to at least match our anniversary gift with KR considering how stingy AGS has been in the last few months

[cursive ruin]

I checked my third roster

Weekly challenge finished

Day not ruined

I don't have to do velganos again

[buoyant wagon]

lol there’s no way they are going to give a free season 1-2 for us

When we’ve barely had it for half a year

[cursive ruin]

Velganos is literally the antichrist

[sand marsh]

kr got free s3 skins shortly after it came out

[mental berry]

there wasn't any clear indicators that we were getting legendary skins, people just saw what KR got and said "we want that too" despite also forgetting that legendary skins have been in KR for way longer than they have been in the west

[sand marsh]

but we arent korean soo

[sand marsh]

no there were indicators

i dont have the image but there were indicators.

[mental berry]

the only indicators were the images of legendary skins on the advertising for the anniversary event, but that doesn't mean we get them for free, it's just advertisement

[sand marsh]

whats the point of that picture then

an oversight. of course.

[full igloo]

[mental berry]

i mean there were obvious oversights, the whole elixir thing was also an oversight

[sand marsh]

yeah. so its natural for people to be upset.

AGS has a pattern of making mistakes.

[mental berry]

they just took the images that KR used for their advertising and used them for western advertising without realizing KR got something that we aren't supposed to get

[full igloo]

where goldge

[quiet igloo]

[swift tree]

Gold is inside your heart

And unlike gold, that card xp doesnt have a 3 day cooldown

[spare scaffold]

whats the different?
prophet and guardian

[lean pewter]

where embers, I'm almost done with full rested roster and one ember so far

[spare scaffold]

[buoyant wagon]

Now you know the answer

[quiet igloo]

I ate them

[buoyant wagon]

“Because we aren’t Korean” explains most things

[cursive ruin]

help

my paladin has cringe kayangel abyss dungeon macros

[buoyant wagon]

That goes for every region that’s not Korea

And it will never change

[mental berry]

it's just the name

everything else is the same

[buoyant wagon]

No

[mental berry]

only name is different

[cursive ruin]

someone told me akkan tier mats

[buoyant wagon]

1580 dismantles into akkan mats

[cursive ruin]

last time I asked this

[spare scaffold]

noted

[lean pewter]

aborted children indeed

[mental berry]

oh

[lean pewter]

[mental berry]

didnt know that

so you want to get the accessories that are 1580

[cursive ruin]

you guys hoarding until breaker release or thaemine

[mental berry]

breaker

[tulip charm]

some people hoard till lost ark 3

[cursive ruin]

gotta hit that 1620 any way possible I guess

[keen copper]

all my gold is just going towards lvl 10s now

no more honing

[low nebula]

it doesnt feel like good idea to hold till lost ark 3
cos i bet t3 mats would not be convertable to t4 - thats the idea of soft reset istn it

[keen copper]

t4

[ancient tundra]

Lev 12 gems

[gleaming pendant]

F2P

[quiet igloo]

Esther accs

[mental berry]

all my mats for breaker, surely it's enough for day one 1580

[quiet igloo]

[keen copper]

the last f2p on naw

[gleaming pendant]

isn't that chuan?

oh wait

[ancient tundra]

We keep meming about it
But won t be fun when they release them

[gleaming pendant]

wait for relic engravings class

50k each book

[supple parrot]

wdym oh wait?

fuck off

[gleaming pendant]

when it comes out

[ancient tundra]

Welp

[quiet igloo]

Esther accs will just be engraving supp 5x3+2 for 500k usd

[cursive ruin]

Why would you name your kid dimitri

[ancient tundra]

[still lintel]

Cant wait for t4

[quiet igloo]

[keen copper]

is that what ur name is

unlucky lil bro

[cursive ruin]

no

[cursive ruin]

ur buggin on a stack

[keen copper]

thats what someone would say when their name isnt dimitri

[silver hollow]

[keen copper]

[silver hollow]

[ancient tundra]

[lean pewter]

oh no

[quiet igloo]

[cursive ruin]

weird gaga

[swift tree]

Relic Books, 6x3 Gatekeeping for Valtan

[cursive ruin]

65 elixir bonus minimum

[quiet igloo]

[ancient tundra]

Wtf medoo how many weird weirdga u have

[cursive ruin]

i have 2

[still lintel]

curious what their plans for old t3 content would be whenever they make t4

[ancient tundra]

Relic engraving books esther accs

[cursive ruin]

akkan card run

[ancient tundra]

Etc

[cursive ruin]

remove blue books then add relic and increase leegendary drop by like x5

[quiet igloo]

._.

[swift tree]

[ancient tundra]

Not like any of us will be playing by t4

Lmao

[cursive ruin]

esther books cousin

[still lintel]

no i mean like actual content just like t1/t2 becomes like when t3 came

[ancient tundra]

Ah

Idk ngl most of the raids are in t3

[swift tree]

Tier 4 with ZLC, The Primordial Arks & Carpus Tokens.

[ancient tundra]

Idk how they will adjust that

[cursive ruin]

oh god

[still lintel]

yh they would "lose" so much content

[cursive ruin]

tier 4 guardian raids bro

if they try to be creative like with velganos

I will spin a block

[ancient tundra]

Tier 4 is gonna be a long journey

Huh

[still lintel]

you go from doing 3 massive raids a week on 6 characters to doing 1 new argos on each character

[cursive ruin]

bring back argos

[ancient tundra]

Boss rush but with raid bosses

[cursive ruin]

argos extreme hellmode juicer 1610 nm

[torn ether]

please dont

[ancient tundra]

Come on argos was fun

[swift tree]

That's low-key what they're adding for soloable Legion Raids.

[cursive ruin]

and it's literally the exact same raid but with x100 hp

[ancient tundra]

[ancient tundra]

But wait

I wonder

How they will work

Kinda curious

[swift tree]

Solo versions of mechanics.

Gate 1 looked like 4 orbs you have to grab yourself

from screenshots during LOA on Winter

[ancient tundra]

Oh teaching u de wei ?

[dim lark]

[swift tree]

Basically Special versions... but good and accessible.

problem with learning versions currently is you need to find people who run them since you still need 4/8 others.

[ancient tundra]

Wait

Really ?

Kinda sucks

[eager zealot]

Rmt

[swift tree]

Talking about these.

[ancient tundra]

Ahhh

Ye gl

Finding ppl

Lmao

[torn ether]

they should remove these

[keen copper]

finally bro

[swift tree]

Valtan style is meant to replace these eventually.

[cursive ruin]

why even do rehearsal when u overgear the mechs so badly

[ancient tundra]

They should keep akkan

[swift tree]

long-term they are.

[swift tree]

no point as by the time they get to the Akkan one, the game will be past Legion Commanders as a whole.

[ancient tundra]

Yep

Arc 2

Of the story

[torn ether]

kr already kinda got passed the legion raids

[swift tree]

Arc 2 will be started most likely last year

[quiet igloo]

[swift tree]

KR is on the first part of the "climax" so to speak. They're about to finish the first Act

[ancient tundra]

||So ye pretty much humanity failed to stop kazeros and it s despair currently right?||

[cursive ruin]

Wait so kr is edging rn

[torn ether]

they always are

[rugged lynx]

Whatdid I click into

[bitter lichen]

shit im edgin rn

[ancient tundra]

Nice info bro

[bitter lichen]

[rugged lynx]

Enjoy

[swift tree]

More like ||Legion Commanders whole goals were to summon the crimson moon, that happened during Thaemine Raid, KR is not dealing with Kazeros' actual resurrection that has been teased since day 1. Kazeros is already physically present and back for Korea, just not 'awake' yet||

[torn ether]

and i heard kr is getting a new raid in a month or so

16 man raid or ssth like that

[ancient tundra]

Oh ye makes more sense now ty

[swift tree]

They're getting an Abyss Raid.

[cursive ruin]

I wanna fight kazeros man

2 trillion hp

[swift tree]

There's 2 story bits they're getting.

Kazeros' Resurrection & Chaos Guardians.

[ancient tundra]

Anyone has what echidna says at the end of her raid translated ?

[still lintel]

ive came

[ancient tundra]

Ofc u did

[cursive ruin]

me too

She's like

Come here baby xoxoxoxo

[bitter lichen]

the dragon bozo

[cursive ruin]

and then you can resist the otherworldy temptations with a typetest

[swift tree]

Mid-raid ||She discusses part of the prophecy that Brelshaza spoke about, with the added context of what Varkan said during Kurzan MSQ.||
End-Raid ||She reflects that she has the power of foresight, confirming she's quite likely the chaos witch, and said that she plans to watch our progress further||

This is speculation so won't spoiler, but it is quite likely that, as with multiple characters in the game, she's a mix of Echidna and Gaia.

[ancient tundra]

||Oh so lowkey not an enemy but not an ally at the same time||

[swift tree]

"There is more to the world than just the labels of Darkness and Light"

[cursive ruin]

yeah there's big boba

[ancient tundra]

Pretty much

[swift tree]

what Kharmine said.

[torn ether]

so dommy mommy is a ally?

[cursive ruin]

there's also like

thighs

[swift tree]

She's not an antagonist.

[torn ether]

best part

[swift tree]

Low-key Echidna is what people theorised what Brelshaza could be.

When in reality Brelshaza is impersonating Echidna

not spoilering as that part is already in game.

[cursive ruin]

I got the brel art twice in a row now

This is some bad rng

[swift tree]

@cursive ruin If I'm not going to be able to be min/max 10 gem DPS edgelord, then I'm gonna go nerdcore.

[cursive ruin]

speaking of edgelord

I heard ladon's end of raid minigame is an edging type test

[swift tree]

@silver hollow It's literally in Vykas purple quests and Brelshaza dialogue lol.

[cursive ruin]

is that true

[swift tree]

More like Simon says mixed with Musical chair counters.

[cursive ruin]

And I'm the chair hopefully?

[swift tree]

the 'chairs' are spots inside a giant glowing snake mandela

[stark thicket]

Does this look right 2 yall

[swift tree]

ignore the colour lines... tl;dr of Echidna dialogue ||She basically verbally ponders the 4th paragraph of this prophecy||

[still lintel]

no, that looks like math and math is always wrong

[stark thicket]

[cedar zealot]

What's zlc

[stark thicket]

You look like a math problem then.. wrong

[swift tree]

Zosma Legion Commanders 😛

[dawn yacht]

that new surviving the game as a barbarian ch is sick @still lintel you reading that one ?

[bitter lichen]

did u carry the 1 bro

[cursive ruin]

kazeros fight commander

[still lintel]

no

[dawn yacht]

you missing out big time

[bitter lichen]

todays subject slavery

[cedar zealot]

[rugged lynx]

yes

[bitter lichen]

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/kharmine-lost-ark-my-beloved-evil-hot-guy-gif-25156390

[cedar zealot]

How you doing medoo

[stark thicket]

you sure?

[silver hollow]

An goood man wbu

[rugged lynx]

is this home work: Yes im sure
Is this a final: No im not sure

[cedar zealot]

Good, just woke up and feel like going back to sleep again

[cedar zealot]

[cursive ruin]

bro ags buncha hoes

[silver hollow]

Sleep is bis do it I would too if i could

[cursive ruin]

"if you dc during character select game wont exit"
I swap to data in character select
"account already logged in"

[swift tree]

KR players go ham at the lore/story, breaking down every detail.
Funny part is that the detail is actually there for them to find.

Sylus from Rowen actually being relevant in Kurzan to drip-feed world lore.

[dawn yacht]

sh main

[alpine lagoon]

At which ilvl does Southvern power pass and Elgacia power pass push you?

[stark thicket]

Hhehe its homework, i just havent done equations in awhile so idk if i moved N around correctly to be able to solve this.

[torn ether]

south vern 1415 elgacia 1460

[cursive ruin]

brel art 3 times in a row now

[swift tree]

So when do people start making rule 63 Axels with Shadowhunter skin? 😛

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-hearts-axel-kh-gif-12540784

trying to find one on tenor with the wheels instead of the blade.

[neon cedar]

Kingdom hearts

[swift tree]

Shadowhunter combat idle animation is similar lol

[neon cedar]

Youre so right, the big weapons help a lot, even if they are sorta diff

[cursive ruin]

commission one

[swift tree]

already made a lenore preset so I'm set.

[cursive ruin]

dude

whip me

[swift tree]

reason why I did lenore is because when you transform, character turns into Camilla lol.

[cursive ruin]

cabello?

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/castlevania-carmilla-gif-27144141

[ancient tundra]

Burn baby

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-shush-with-your-trying-to-be-clever-lenore-jessica-brown-findlay-castlevania-stop-trying-to-be-witty-gif-18202234711058207392

reference

[keen copper]

lenore

[burnt tree]

[swift tree]

I see tragic gingers are a type for some people.

[burnt tree]

Gingers got a special place in my heart

[swift tree]

https://tenor.com/view/jujimufu-dance-jump-pants-clown-gif-18808682

was looking for a good reply in tenor, finally found it.

[burnt tree]

[cursive ruin]

invest in raid captain books

[near needle]

why did adrenaline price go up by 250%?

[thorn sluice]

[dawn yacht]

[swift tree]

Balance change?

[cursive ruin]

maybe new class plays it

omg new class plays it

that means people are gonna want it

pump the price 4 times

[swift tree]

Breaker uses Adrenaline

[near needle]

yikes

fuck breaker

[swift tree]

Asking no clue

coping anyhow since there's Engraving Support for it day 1

[cursive ruin]

omg

breaker usese raid captain too

pump the book price to 6k

[swift tree]

RC was always hovering 2.5k refusing to lower...

[neon cedar]

Everyone drive up HM breaker stuff so I can buy Entropy stuff on the low

[swift tree]

still one of the more pricy books

[cursive ruin]

Master brawler gaming

[swift tree]

Master Brawler Breaker

🥜

Just got Varkan card from the event LP3s

❤️

[cursive ruin]

L

[swift tree]

@cursive ruin I only really need Thaemines or Varks.

[cursive ruin]

how is breaker gonna front attack if it can't even taunt

kinda cringe

[swift tree]

oh lol thought L was at vark card

[cursive ruin]

it was

but like

I was wrong

[swift tree]

[neon cedar]

No taunt, but a great parry/shield. Just play like all the other entropy players

[cursive ruin]

all my other front attack homies got a taunt

[swift tree]

TL;DR play like any other entropy with high cd on their taunt.

inb4 no meter reduction like GL/Arti/Destro

ofc it'd have to, but that'd be one hell of a funny oversight

[cursive ruin]

I read that breaker has it

[swift tree]

iirc it was a universal thing to do with shielded characters.

[dense trail]

hi, is it confirmed no 2nd anniversary title? thanks

[fresh flint]

[neon cedar]

There is no title

[swift tree]

Yearling was for accounts that had hit 1 year old. So doubt they'd do a 2 year one

[rugged lynx]

thanks braden 👍

[dense trail]

I see I have yearling, thanks

[swift tree]

Unless it was a login during X period thing which also doubt they'd do a second time.

[neon cedar]

The Yearling title was part of the 1 year anniversary bundle

We just didnt get another title this year

[swift tree]

Hmmm

[ancient talon]

fish going down. honing mats and gems going up

[swift tree]

bot ban wave ofc

Got to make the game look good for the yearly review in front of investors.

[cursive ruin]

but I thought bigger numbers made it look betetr

[dense trail]

yesterday I ought give challenge guardian atry, queued with 3 Boty arty

[cursive ruin]

It's ok I queued with 3 bots too and we wiped 10 mins into velganos

but in pf

[stark thicket]

[stark thicket]

Hello Chris!

[neon cedar]

Good morning

[cursive ruin]

sien's succ + plague armor enough to get into akkan reclears or no

[fresh flint]

Hello

[stark thicket]

[fresh flint]

[supple parrot]

ppl dont look at title ne more, its more about gear, i just assumeeveryone has title by now

[cursive ruin]

well it's time to build 5x3+1

[swift tree]

Deadbrains will gatekeep if you don't have any pieces.

[cursive ruin]

jk I just wont do akkan

[swift tree]

Had to bus my Arti.

[cursive ruin]

2k gold can suck it

[swift tree]

Now to see if I can get in with 1 piece 💀

[cursive ruin]

I have full akkan armor

[supple parrot]

they gatekeep u cuz ur 1580 when theres plenty of applicants higher

[swift tree]

same-difference tbh. how is one supposed to go above 1580 without bleeding materials/gold if you can't get gear kek

[cursive ruin]

That's just kinda cringe

It's the guardian raid pf situation again

[swift tree]

Nah, they'll take you in learning parties.
The problem is... you're in a learning party.

[cursive ruin]

I want people that don't have dps to beat sona to join my hanu lobby

[swift tree]

So there's people who will 100% fail mechs and it wont be quick

[cursive ruin]

What am I learning bro am I just farming plague title

[supple parrot]

i mean the raid been out for 7 months+

same rason ppl gatekeep1490 for brel

[swift tree]

Sorry I didn't have 6x 1580s day one.

[supple parrot]

u take 1475 for clowns?

[dense trail]

Gate keep bad at any ilvl, any game rlly

[cursive ruin]

chuan ur still out of touch

you don't use an express ticket to 1600 brother

[supple parrot]

im not, u will gatekeep 1475 ppl for clown with no problem cuz ur not 1475,but uget mad when ppl gatekeep u for 1580 for akkan

[cursive ruin]

It's just not the same

Ilvl kakul is just much harder than ilvl akkan

That's the truth