#lost-ark-discussions
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i dont see how it's so hard to understand that if everyone does the same thing you get some sort of baseline comparison. if you do less your comparison means nothing 
Is there some vid math out frog event so i can watch on background?
but the shorter your test is and the more you stack up at the start the more biased (wrong) your results are
ok, let's say we do a 20 second test only
do you think a sorc with full meter will score more or less damage in a 20 second test vs a 10 minute test
You are gimping yourself when everyone else isn't and then claiming sorc parses are comparatively low
Surely you see the problem
in one case the entire test is basically ignite length
in the other case they gotta build meter
it's the same problem on a 2 minute test, just not as bad
something looks familiar......
except we aren't doing a 20 second test. we are doing the same baseline everyone else is
ugly
cant people just parse whole raid few times and come up with adequate numbers?
but its elden.
yes, but teh TEST LENGTH has an impact on the bias that comes from starting with full meter
it's elden ring bro i'm trying my best 
like you might as well say, i dont cast doomsday in my trix parse cause it would inflate the numbers cause i wont hit 100% double doomsday in a real raid 
yea looks very dark souls engine esk
if elden ring had bdo presets i would pop off
Cry about sorc bias but not for every other class
this is the case for every burst class

if you want comparable dps numbers you have to start and stop in the same point in your dps cycle
so i guess you can start with full meter if you end the test once you get full meter again
but i'm sure you don't do that
does one include zerk bias when parse, the part where zerk mises one in 10 skills cos zerk?
Every class inflates bruh
there's a reason why all the korean charts had sorc as terrible dps but high burst

consistent damage classes don't
ok time to shit on bosses
they do a bit, but only a bit it's based on cooldowns
KR has parsers?
because thats how burst classes typically work?
real gigachads kill the tree sentinel at the beginning fo the game
yes, but in a real raid scenario the fight lasts longer
with bare hands
so the free full meter you get in the test is not as impactful
with bare hands

it doesn't matter how long the fight lasts, it matters how the mechs work. brel g3 is the prime example. you can just push it mech to mech and every consistent dps class just gets fucked
Uptime inflation, ba inflation
Still exists
if igniter and windfury do the same dps in trixion in a 2 minute test when you start full meter
then in a 10 minute fight the windfury will outdps the sorc
if you start with full meter it just means your dps window is shifted
whereas if you both started empty meter you'd be equal after 10 minutes too
your dps works in a cycle

because u arent wasting time in the cycle building it up
if you want to know dps results then you gotta complete a full cycle, regardless where in the cycle you start
lmao
but starting with full meter and not ending with full meter means that you aren't completing the cycle
you're using the wrong duration for your type of testing
infinity
for u it should just be charge/pump/charge/pump turn off clock
that way we can have truly fair trixion parsing
this isn't even realistic to real raid
since the boss can just die during your rotation
or pump/charge/pump/charge
so why do u even use 2 minutes
yeah homie is just thinking too much about trixion parsing
that's what i'm saying, short test + starting with full meter gives biased results

when vaccum thinking goes to far
no you're literally just seeing how much u do in a dps window because certain gates will have dps checks in x window
My creations are artsy
you must start with exactly 50% meter otherwise your parse is invalid
??? i'm not the one arguing that starting with full meter in a short test gives useful results
i know that sorc chat loves doing it, but the numbers are useless
dont forget to add dmg modifiers after your hype 3 ends from support buff
Your creations as in char customizations ?
why are the numbers any more useless than starting with no meter
we just went over this so many times linstar
No they're not
because it biases the results
what the fuck is it biasing
if you have a testing method then it should roughly give similar results whether the test is short or long
theyre the embodiment of perfection
it doesnt it just depends on your duration
you're literally trying to see your ceiling in a 2 min parse with ideal results
ok so
step oen is doing that
not play any burst classes
lol?
starting with full meter and not ending with full meter means that you basically gain half of your dps cycle for free
this biases your results because it only applies to burst classes
Because you do
its literally a 2 minute slice under ideal conditions. it's not testing true dps over 5 hours
it's not your actual dps, it's inflated dps
Holy shit
theres no difference other than where u start in the cycle
but that's not what they're arguing
Classic aerroon bait thread
their test doesn't stop at the same point

why would u start at the bottom 
like you might as well say your parse needs to be 5 hours long so you can lower crit variance

yes cause it makes sense
yes, that is what everyonie is doing. you are then taking this graph and comparing it to everyone else
he cant read what u wrote either
get good

this is like talking to zheng
i remember when scalp was this hard to talk to too
if your methodology were fine
then it shouldn't matter if you shorten the test to 30 seconds, 1 minute or 10 minutes
wtf are you guys doing
it should give you the same results
but it won't
and different classes with different amounts of burst will then give you different results based on the duration
something like a tai scrapper is gonna give you roughly the same results in 1 minute vs 10 minutes
this just proves how superior wd is in parsing. ASDF WER PURE PERFECTION no boundless only one spec breakpoint
your sorc with full meter will never do that
okay lets give another example. lets test how fast different guns can unload their clip aka their dps. everyone starts with the gun loaded. you start with the gun unloaded. is it a good comparison comparing the unloaded gun to the loaded gun?
burst and overall dps will be different numbers bestie
and the shorter your test is the more inflated your numbers will be compared to what you will actually get out of it
@empty sleet talon can dodge hwei eq with a talon q

he literally just went thru my e
ive been watching mr mrs smith its a relationship show
Oh really
ye kind boring
Lemme go browse the library out back, try and find who asked



ill make it black gold in a sec anyways dont worry 
its recommended for u so maybe your gf wants to see it

my pp so hard rn thinking abt 40 set
what happened to your male-only roster? 
@urban obsidian what was the site to check your pulls?
that was finished when slayer released 
It’s important to find the things in life that make you happy.
i cant believe i got 2 5/5 elixir today
they should add proper beards and mustaches to females as well

my luck has been unreal since last week 21 wep pity

mb i buy saturday lottery next
5050?
These MF Put a legend select card pack behind Ivory towe
in the birthday bash event
hello?

Nm?
yea
but most ppl that need it arent there
the ppl who have LoS 30 are mostly already ther
1600 is free 

maybe with the Breaker event
you posted that last time
Tf u need los 30 for lower contents 
I post it every time now
I will post again next patch when he gets bailu again
at least they put a select pack in guardian raids
u dont but gatekeep 

there's peep with los 18 doing ivory
other server 
prices of leaps going back up
thank god
frog is good
1 char only
perfection.


@tardy tusk carian combo warriors mod goes hard
what do you guys buy from frog shop?
mfker spam the same skills

nvm no i didnt
Everything
i have no idea what im doing bro
everything? is cheap
im pressin random buttons
you want a 7 hours tutorial?
for gold frog
yes ocean
yeah
@obtuse oyster stone is + 10 KBW + 5 CD +2 MS reduction
cheap is relative
thats 24k for the whole shop
each week

we rly love lost ark 

@tardy tusk ima need that 7h tut fr 
i cant join a lobby rn
i have to leave in 30 mins
yo wait
extreme doesnt take a gold raid?

nup
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tf 55€ for some blue gems and an emote
i didnt even scroill that far to see that 
i will read this in its entirety though because i am a diligent player
ppl who buy those crystal packs will just see the emote as a $200 bonus
since they would be mileage shoppers anyway
yeah not that expensive this time around
Nice mod bro
Good lord
NA 
Wait, wrong channel
Worth ong

whya re smalls so expensive bro 
I didnt realize the top chest was 1k each
thought it was 300 thruout the board
worth it got loads of card exp 
same 

40 set now?

i got 1 mil silver for a 41% cruel 
never rewarded for my carries

Baldurs gate3 vs 2600 crystals?

bg3 is $30
wrong ping

i think 2600 crystals
They put so much effort on that one
lets play bg3 ken
Sure, mod or unmod?
Don t trust
mod
i have to reinstall tho
Damn bro u cooked
I was a dickhead in that run lmao.
is she actually
xd
anyone where this weapon comes from? its under #share-dye
Ah albedo
WTF LMAO
i checked all anni skins so i can decide
what to pick but then i saw gunslinger

Bro the funniest shit I saw was the roll for the squirrel
If u kick it thing fcking explodes

allah is watching
Ik Gale leaves
He didnt even show bro.
If u do too much evil shit
i rip his hand.
Yea

Did they remove card xp packs from toad?
\
anybody know if this img includes like a honing buff to 1620?
Shit quality but
Bro ngl I m chilling in act 3
I play thief bro that shit
Broken asf
how many times did you finish the game?
á
My 3rd run will be dark urge
there is no honing buff to 1620

Wtf
how high does the event honing buff go

is okayge
it's wednesday my dudes
y
Bro act 2 moonrise raid
did you see the fart wizard?
Fucked me hard
build
Was clutch
No I didn't
Fart wizard build is so broken, killing ppl by just walking.
whoever thought a tractor would be a good sell in a series of the best skins ever dropped is a psycho
why tf would anyone buy a jalopy
Basically, you transform in gas, put agathy armor to deal ice damage when you got hit...in gas form you have resistence to all damages..add water to that, and bam, ppl will die if hit you.
I want a tractor in lost ark


I would fucking ride a tractor to my chaos gates every damn day
Lmao wtf

The fact it s codded in
Is fcking crazy bro
Omg is it a real tractor in loa?!
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just chekc the first min
lmao
Isnt that what the 20 day login reward is

Lol
I’m at job


Bruh the frog shop

Any other day can suckadick
Select cards
I actually hate talon
Wym hard

fk those goddmn mokokos
U need 15 coins each

It costs 1k each coin essentially
30k excluding selling the stuff you get

I bet you would
very cheap

So cheap
Lol

I JUST DODGED BY ACCIDENT
But still
everyone, kill me
ags raking it in today
febuary is fuck new players month
Seems so
no engraving support 
Fuck them new players 
Guardian raid mm is going to suck today 
Oh true
I'm not logging in anymore
GR also has a select card
Ayo fr
You quit, i reinstall
bro, the raid leader was afk half the fight and we had 4 death for valtan HM at 1540+ lobby
the duality

100$ rmt get you two built cahrs
what the fuck they're charging 20% extra for rerelease skins
those fucking covetous goblins
2400 RC vs the standard 2000rc for skins

meanwhile riot games skin model
Classic EU L

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Hi friend were both on galatur can u send me 100k
gold frog should be an npc to create a sense of hype and comradarie
instead of just an event tab
send me 100k and i will double that and send u back
Shut up bro
?
Why not, getting an npc is always nice
elaborate coward
ayo
It's literally just to burn gold
this scrapper outfit
You're acting like it's the presidential election
is insane

what happens in IT g2 if u don't use the cube item
allah pls forgive me
i got the white version

white..
cosplay in it
another one bites the dust 
and dm
all the way to the ankles n shi
Harder patterns, pre 30 he has a wipe after 5 stacks
Well, I got sent a new outfit so imma dress up in that soon. 

How the fuck you get anniversary cosplay

do you know goldgeriver
Oh, it’s not from loa. It’s just a random outfit.
oh dang

fine, but where is the festival and how do you get to it
penking pre-evolution spin
i asked
me in new deadeye anni outfit
Imagine playing a male class with these skins 
fr fr
like i dont even wanna dye this outfit for scrapper its actually
@still lintel urf back
perfect
ew
wow, time for rats and perma split sim

gross
Finally the best game mode is back
time to get tilted and rage quit cuz urf is a zoo
How do you get mad at urf
its the season not urf
Lethal company
where is that? i don't see it in store
idk what ppl talking about the mage skins arnt that bad
voldis is so far away
man
they didn't just add valtan extreme
they also added akkan extreme
the lag is hilarious
Sorry
Xtreme lag
huh whats this
nvm there's a bonus room tab
wym its a discount
U don't have to fomo for the bonus room bonus just get the good stuff
Like oreha life energy and pheon
bonus tap in cashhop
Where is the cube ticket chest
I have no need for shards atm
Time to rmt
NAE

thats good
$55 for this is a fucking highway robbery, but its so cute 
i need card exp
The pose?
yes
its pose + shards
I was gonna buy the poses, but I found out you can’t use them on mvp screen.
why must it be 55$ 
...
Thanks for the heads up I wanted the tea bag jump
Why not?
No point if you can’t use on mvp screen
no its not :(
What's so bad ab it

I only wanna spend my money on skins 
Well, the pose gets you enough bc for a skin
To milk dentge ppl

its not all the same bundle
each emote has a different included item
u know whats crazy, leaps not going down
Trash
so it last enough so i can get them on breaker
the one that iceel wants gives this
Cause roster bound
Breaker delay incoming
No reason to panic sell like ytd

I'm gunna buy nothing
Done w loa

Trash
Anyone did ivory tower already ?
send gems
Japan moment soon ™️
Ye jailed g2 cuz ping issues
game feels super smooth with 400 ping
Did u get clear for gate 1 in event quest
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Or is for whole dungeon
I love pressing a button then seeing a reaction 2 business days later
Or dodging but still getting hit anyways
Cant play lost ark rn but what do ppl look for in ex valtan anyone got an ss?
No
Now that u mentioned it…
WTF
scamazon
hell title for hard
Ok so it is full clear then
Hell title
Mostly
and probably 1600+
Oof sucks for the fresh 1600s I guess
Is Extreme valtan only last for one month?
can you tell me if your event had made progress with just one gate ? the phrasing is weird as it is asking for a clear while everything else ask for gates
valtan ex is 1620 wtf mostly 1600+???
till thaemine
it's like 4 hours after maintenance
event is up for weeks
should go down
Nah i didnt get progress
normal is 1580
hard is 1620
It is also hard to you if you are 1620
not rly. static exist and im a bit above 1620
yo loading screens
I just started buying Akkan buses, so it’s gonna be a while for me 
Peek #picture-gallery for sauce
If you are a hell enjoyer that’s easy but kind of hard for causal players
how can u resisit
Yeah, Saint and friends about one shot it because hell enjoyers while others I watched had a hard time.
I bought 2 got the 90k xp once and 3 epic rapport the other

huh u aint 1620?
worth
I’m 1585 
damn which char do i use the skin on
Male gunner
Defo not ur bard


Mage L skin
its kinda cute tho
Coomer
my bard already looks good
Nice whale glow
casually flexing wep
gotta flex it after pitying twice
damn
All golden books which i listed hour ago +30-50% market price is sold out
even some garbage for 200g
Just buy off the market bro 
What are u rolling for btw
bro, it doesn't exist
leggo helmet for my bard
did they give us new bozo?

actually this looks pretty damn good
not enough skin
noppers
oooo very nice'
No they gonna milk it later on for sure
bastards
any ballers in the chat
I wanna dress my artist up as a little queen
Are u doing it for the looks or ap%


see DM
imagine not having it done already
oh you done it already?
wtf whale

gz
We all know you’re a whale

Wait, I mean f2p


Lin is based tho he never claims to ve f2p bounds only like the rest of his gang

wtf is that
Dogshit
are those pouch bound?
this event is str8 cheeks
It’s for mokokos
D:
@quartz turret @supple parrot balthorr on js btw
at least we can get 3 thaemines from this event
eh kinda mid
And ex valtan dps check actually pretty high
For g2
xD
Hmm i have no set bonus
After ghost
But i got the title
Nvm i might have been wrong
@still lintel
zed lost mid against my pyke
legendary select locked behind ivory tower
It might have been during the maintenance



Wonder if ppl will let me in
Thats tragic
op
OFC, it’s only goblino DPS
At least make it with high hp

Everyone has same build need to have different xD
Show stats
it look sick
Show quality
did u do it already
Sry false alarm

Yea
its gonna be ez

We got close to clearing
i hope they update meter
🐳
before doing it
Tht urchar?
they always do
ADRE 3 WITH MAX CRIT

static in shambles
did u give her the 5th anni skin
👨❤️💋👨
it works
LOL
dang gonna have to find a lot of pugs tonight
ur trollin

i dont
@supple parrot 
we have a winner
.#bounds only insert leapstone image here
ye
nice over crit 
i am voting for that
same
I should make this into a sticker
90% is not
do it

we need to vote for it

So how is your char looking with anniversary skin ?
fucking tyrants
they should choe that one
Average f2p player in LA spends 500 bucks 
we should force em
Prolly just gonna use it in my private discord.
add it here 
Sadly mage skins look like they were drawn by a 6-year old with crayons
fuck mages
I deleted all mages from my roster because shit skins.
Every time
They look nice tho
@silver hollow 
@fresh flinti think buying mw3 was a big mistake now 
I'm happy about mine except the lost ark white band below the bra, It was really bad with other colours + black
Ew
Can you not dye the band?
Ayaya
Rip


Does that top exist in real life btw
Classic specialist L
Yeah, looks like a sports bra
I mean the half jacket part
yeah you can find that for women
I don’t remember those exposing the chest
for men I'm not sure
Yeah

I’ve seen them a lot actually.
Usually it’s cropped at the stomach
Dunno - a fantasy game should never have tank tops or b00b tubes as skins
why not?
breaks the immersion, but I guess its too late for that
brother we have a cyberpunk city with mechs next to a flying city with beings with wings
and you are talking IMMERSION?


I wish I could forget Arthetine
lmfao
lets just ignore artillerest that summons a giant fucking turret made out of metal
and sits in a beam cannon

I mean it really does break it though
What fucking fantasy world fighting to keep itself alive has bikinis
I have a bike from arthetine, look really futuristic, nice immersion

so every mmo ever
got you

Now that I have a new skin, I need to save gold for this bike
Why so? 
you know they also have giant robots and flying futuristic airships
you tell me why i'm sure it won't take you long to spot the problem
























