lost-ark-discussions

[burnt tree]

I spent 100k to build my SEs 5x3+1

[still lintel]

Same issue as last engraving support what a surprise

[burnt tree]

Money that could have gone in outfits

[full igloo]

[supple parrot]

100k ain’t much at this stage of the game

[burnt tree]

It is when i could buy two outfit sets

[brazen smelt]

Can you send me 100k?

[burnt tree]

Same pls

[faint grove]

send me 100k too pls 😊

[burnt tree]

I only have 50k, not enough to buy anni outfits

[fresh flint]

I told u to save

[supple parrot]

No

[full igloo]

it was not enough gold to build my char anyway

[burnt tree]

That's why you save it

[faint grove]

sold my sorc gems and now i kinda wanna buy them back

[full igloo]

Why should I save when the game LITERALLY tell me march 20

[fresh flint]

Even if it was 5k at least you had 5k less to farm/save

[burnt tree]

I just sold lvl 7 gems for 5 weeks

And had enough to get my accs

[supple parrot]

Why did u sell it

[fresh flint]

5 weeks

[faint grove]

wasnt feeling it

[brazen smelt]

Lol

[faint grove]

but after hitting 2 fused taps on weap im feeling it

[queen grail]

[brazen smelt]

[burnt tree]

[supple parrot]

[fresh flint]

[brazen smelt]

You going to sell them again after missing 2 doomsday

[burnt tree]

Cheese moment

[faint grove]

fuck igniter

reflux is cooler

[supple parrot]

Reflux

[faint grove]

playable now that it has decent stagger

[brazen smelt]

[supple parrot]

Why not just play igniter

[burnt tree]

Cause its trash

[supple parrot]

Igniter is not trash lol. Players are

[faint grove]

because they have the same damage output except igniter does zdps half the time

[supple parrot]

[burnt tree]

https://tenor.com/view/fix-the-game-gif-27218102

[brazen smelt]

Get better. Lality

[burnt tree]

Lality dn

[supple parrot]

That’s cap if u think igniter and reflux is same dmg

[faint grove]

its not cap at all

[burnt tree]

Its cap if you think Igniter is fine

[quartz turret]

[supple parrot]

Igniter is above average for sure

[brazen smelt]

In current content? It is fine

[faint grove]

above average? bruh

are you living 12 patches ago or what

[burnt tree]

Bruh

[supple parrot]

? It does more dmg than zerker

[faint grove]

uhhh no?

unless the raid is perfect for igniter they sure as hell dont

[supple parrot]

If I had same gear on my sorc as my zerker I would do more

As sorc

[faint grove]

only in specific raids where you can burst then build bar during DR-mechs

[supple parrot]

I’m not saying average sorc. It’s a low floor class

[faint grove]

like akkan

[supple parrot]

Zerker floor is high

I mean it’s good for all our raids

[brazen smelt]

Pretty busted in g2 voldis

[supple parrot]

Brel, voldis, Akkan

[faint grove]

outside of g2 its trash in voldis

[supple parrot]

No it’s not

[faint grove]

kinda

[supple parrot]

[brazen smelt]

[lean pewter]

g3 is good as well for igniter

[supple parrot]

Do u even have a sorc?

[faint grove]

sure do

[lean pewter]

g1 and g4 not that much

[brazen smelt]

U can build meter in g4

[supple parrot]

If u have a sorc and u feel it’s bad for voldis. That’s just a skill issue

To be honest

[brazen smelt]

110 mech and 60

[quartz turret]

sorc is trash

[brazen smelt]

Just stay out

[faint grove]

i mean i dont have a 1600 sorc no

[torn ether]

dont play sorc

[supple parrot]

Rosey is trash

[quartz turret]

[lean pewter]

woah

[faint grove]

just based on experience playing with sorcs its trash

[quartz turret]

reported

[supple parrot]

Then why u say it’s bad for voldis when u have 0 experience

[faint grove]

because i have eyes

[supple parrot]

No shit. It’s a low floor class. 9 out of 10

Will be shit

[faint grove]

bruh you act like igniter is hard to play, you press 3 buttons and it does 90% of your damage

wow so hard

[supple parrot]

I see trash se all the time too

Is se bad?

[faint grove]

pressing other skills to build bar outside of burst, wow so hard

[supple parrot]

Is slayer bad? They are always fighter

[lean pewter]

I see only trash dbs all the time

I think the class is bad

[supple parrot]

True

More than half of pug db are zdps

Must be shit class

[brazen smelt]

surge just doesnt crit

[supple parrot]

[brazen smelt]

What can you do?

[lean pewter]

I had 1620 surge with 10s on normal akkan being outdpsd by 1587 reflux with 7s

[supple parrot]

Nah. It’s not just doesn’t crit. They cast 2 surge per min. Gonna be zdps

[stark thicket]

you got me preggo just staring at me

[brazen smelt]

[stark thicket]

[wind dagger]

[supple parrot]

Everything is easy in this game. Players suck

[fresh flint]

It’s quadruplets

[burnt tree]

That's just skill issue

[torn ether]

thats fucking hands diff bro

[fresh flint]

[supple parrot]

MMO are literally the easiest games

Monkeys can play mmo

[lean pewter]

it is, but lately it's been with all dbs like that

I specifically take them for raids

[faint grove]

its just weird that igniters always act like igniter is an insanely hard spec to play compared to other classes, it really aint

i'd say its on the easier side

[burnt tree]

People saw db buffs and flocked to it

[tulip charm]

@supple parrot @quartz turret frogs?

[lean pewter]

even before the buffs

[supple parrot]

Nah I’ve said it many times that ignite is ez. And it’s high dmg. Ppl just suck

[brazen smelt]

I dont think we ever said igniter is hard lol

[supple parrot]

I’m not on. Prob not

[burnt tree]

[quartz turret]

betrayed

[faint grove]

still dont think its high damage, its mid damage

[lean pewter]

[quartz turret]

frog static in shambles

[lean pewter]

are you mocking me

[burnt tree]

Yes'nt

[supple parrot]

It’s above average for sure. It’s lower than real op stuff like se

[burnt tree]

No

[lean pewter]

[stark thicket]

[faint grove]

you know igniter trixion damage output is abysmal right, which means unless its an ideal fight their raid damage is gonna be abysmal aswell right?

[supple parrot]

I use Akkan g3 to gauge dps

Couldn’t care less about trixion

[faint grove]

akkan g3 is a perfect igniter fight

because it has so many situations where you can stack bar then burst

lol

[supple parrot]

It is the most relevant fight for us to gauge dps in

[faint grove]

it really aint

[supple parrot]

What else would u use? Voldis?

Igniter pops off in voldis as well

Tell me what fight u use

Then

Ur just gonna say no to akkan g3 and then not give an alternative

[faint grove]

just overall innit

already said igniter is good in akkan

[supple parrot]

And it’s good in voldis

And in Brel

That’s the 3 gold raids we have

What else would u use?

[faint grove]

sucks in kaya, mediocre in voldis, mediocre in brel.

[supple parrot]

Sucks in Kaya?

Lmfao

[faint grove]

sucks ass in kaya actually

[supple parrot]

I would destroy ur main with my alt igniter in Kaya

[brazen smelt]

True

[faint grove]

i'm sure you would

[supple parrot]

It is insane in Kaya

There is so much dr

[faint grove]

yeah if you honestly believe that then you're just completely clueless

[supple parrot]

And u instant burst

No one can do dmg

[brazen smelt]

Not g3 though

[delicate sandal]

@faint groveur talking to a dude that lost to a 1580 aero with his 1610 pistoleer

in dps

[faint grove]

its kinda unbelieveable that he can sit there and genuinely believe igniter is good in kaya

[supple parrot]

G3 u go in with stim and boss is literal instant phased

No one will be able to do more than 200 mil while ur at a billion

What

[supple parrot]

Because it is?

[brazen smelt]

Well that also depend on who else in ur party. G3 favor cooldown burst class more than meter

[supple parrot]

Only way it’s not good is if you say it cannot go in with gauge and u cannot use stims at all. Then it might be mid

If u can stim

The only thing that beats it is se

[lean pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/delusional-gif-20228922

[brazen smelt]

[supple parrot]

G3 u pre stim into another stim and the boss is alrdy at half hp

What can other ppl do

[tulip charm]

wtf

valtan isn't busy anymore its just rohendel again

[supple parrot]

It’s always like this

At this time

During the day both is busy

Cuz valtan has real players

[brazen smelt]

[supple parrot]

Rohendel is just rosey and 5k bots

[cedar zealot]

What if he is one of them

[supple parrot]

Rosey is just an ai

Bot

[cedar zealot]

[supple parrot]

This whole time

Self training to play lost ark

Explains alot

Actually

[cedar zealot]

Explains the afk

[supple parrot]

[cedar zealot]

That's not inferno valtan

[sand marsh]

i completed that

[cedar zealot]

Oh nice

Ready for next week

[supple parrot]

Deathboi top dmg

[quartz turret]

wtf legit f2p player slender

[lean pewter]

I appriciate your skin choice on zerk scalp

[cedar zealot]

Hi Rosey

[supple parrot]

Stfu rosey gpt. Generate a better response

[quartz turret]

Hi Pahlev

[quartz turret]

stfu

[cedar zealot]

[steel minnow]

I gatekeep mokoko skins

[supple parrot]

[steel minnow]

They allways zdps

[quartz turret]

[cedar zealot]

When patch 2.0 on star rail bros

Is it later today

[full igloo]

alright for sonavel, I really need to stop matchmaking, I'm oom half the fight without a support

[steel minnow]

No

[full igloo]

[steel minnow]

Wednesday

[sand marsh]

im pumping man

[quartz turret]

oh fuck i need to pre download

[cedar zealot]

Banners ends in 10 ish hours right

[supple parrot]

Scalp is a furry

[quartz turret]

why are u pumping man

[cedar zealot]

Too far away

[lean pewter]

furry too?

[supple parrot]

That’s kinda gay

[lean pewter]

don't be pumping men scalp

[steel minnow]

@cedar zealot bro my full auto almost failed pure fiction 4

Xdd

My jing yuan side did 23o only

But then my jing liu did 38k lmfao she clutched it up so hard

I got no dot teams

[cedar zealot]

Should have pulled kafka

[steel minnow]

So this one is kinda hard without one

Nah

Fck dots

[cedar zealot]

They even made a pf buff just for dots

I hate dots too but this ain't going away

[steel minnow]

Bro i literally had to take the buff that applies windshear to ppl so they got the -35% dmg dealt xdddd

[cedar zealot]

You used jingliu second* half?

[supple parrot]

It’s looking like sorc will be my next 1620

@quartz turret is ur paly close to 1620?

[steel minnow]

Yea she destroyed

[cedar zealot]

What comp and buff u use

[quartz turret]

wait it is today

[steel minnow]

Jingliu ruanmei blade luocha with the windshear bufg

[cedar zealot]

[quartz turret]

no im 1614

[supple parrot]

[steel minnow]

What is this?

[cedar zealot]

Gonna try that after work

[steel minnow]

Its my fav comp

I dont have speed boots on my blade cuz his subdps

Jingliy stacks him so well doe

[quartz turret]

star rail 2.0

[steel minnow]

Really?

All updates drop on wednesday doe

Alleays

[quartz turret]

ye

[cedar zealot]

I want another sup like Ruan Mei that works on double dps comps

[quartz turret]

not everyone whales like u

[steel minnow]

And all updates are allways same time as lost ark updates

[cedar zealot]

Sparkle can be just that, but need e6

[quartz turret]

i want sparkle

with my danheng

[cedar zealot]

I will pull for Dan heng

[steel minnow]

Hmmm

[cedar zealot]

Today

[steel minnow]

Whats ur other team

[cedar zealot]

90 pulls and a dream

[quartz turret]

wait danheng rerun today?

[cedar zealot]

Yes, swan and him

And then it's Jing yuan and sparkle

[steel minnow]

Is ilthe update rly today?

[quartz turret]

imma pull for his lc

[cedar zealot]

Seems so

[cedar zealot]

🐳

[quartz turret]

its from the official discord

i lost the 25/75 for dr ratio lc

so now i have guarantee

[cedar zealot]

Get sig lc for the better IMG dps

[quartz turret]

[quartz turret]

im at 60 pity guaranteed for lc

[steel minnow]

Oops i allready missed 2 big events

Xdd

[quartz turret]

the rest ill save for sparkle

[steel minnow]

I will just rng and i eill get those pulls in

[quartz turret]

2.1 kinda huge too lots of new chars

i want the guy with preservation

[cedar zealot]

[cursive ruin]

shivering cold making skeleton noises rn

[sand marsh]

ok infero clown gate 2 is gonna make me throw up

[cedar zealot]

If they store the event, you can do it later

[steel minnow]

I got thst wep in 20 pulls

[steel minnow]

Bro

[cursive ruin]

preach bro my friend wants to prog

[steel minnow]

It gives 150 primos now wgen they stored it

[cedar zealot]

I'm not pulling for anymore sustain units

[steel minnow]

Not worth my time

[cedar zealot]

Got too many already

[cursive ruin]

if u die in inferno ur not revived later right

[steel minnow]

Huh

[quartz turret]

the only limited sustain for me its luocha

so i want another one

[steel minnow]

Yea y are when they finish

[cursive ruin]

if u die in game u die in real life

[cedar zealot]

Ah makes sense, imo fu/huo huo prob gonna be better than aventurine

Based on the early leaks I saw

[lean pewter]

yes

[cursive ruin]

Imma hop on premium minecraft server (that I bought)

[supple parrot]

??? I wasn’t even gonna hone gl to 1620. Only honed it cuz u whales all hone multiple

[quartz turret]

[dull obsidian]

This looks like the lowest dps party ever

[quartz turret]

i havnt seen any

[dull obsidian]

How is the artist not radiant in hell content wdf

[cedar zealot]

Those were very old leaks, we should get more accurate/relevant leaks in the next few days

[cedar zealot]

How is ishy so ish

[dull obsidian]

How is ishy so ish

[supple parrot]

I mean how is scalp top dmg

Is the screen shot even real

[wind dagger]

[lean pewter]

he probably just edited some random screen and put his name on some random zerker

[wind dagger]

6 min sonavel wtf

[lean pewter]

why are you scrapper main again

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132

[buoyant wagon]

@dull obsidian went on a friend's cn account, one shot brel 1-3, mvped with like 25%+ cruel on a 1503 db

[dull obsidian]

Gg

[buoyant wagon]

dude said "ok you can play on my account whenever"

[dull obsidian]

Wdf

[buoyant wagon]

then tapped a 90q armor for him and cut a 8/7

he's like "yeah i'm sold"

[dull obsidian]

Is there some omega shitter acc someone has?

Story is sleepge

[sand marsh]

everyone was progging except the wardancer

[dull obsidian]

Were you like seconds berserking?

[buoyant wagon]

im now a backup pilot

[wind dagger]

Reported

[buoyant wagon]

actually they're slotting me in for easier clears anyways lol

[lean pewter]

reported to mao ce tung

[dull obsidian]

Wdf

[buoyant wagon]

uh on g3 we were like 25s off

because we had 4 dead

[dull obsidian]

Holy shit

[buoyant wagon]

and i had to carry the dps

[sand marsh]

yea. we had some really good pulls where we were way ahead on the timer but got shitty patterns. like the yellow rings + balls, dice right after, etc. happening after roulette.

[buoyant wagon]

oh you were replying to scalp

[sand marsh]

g2 is a whole different world though. thats gonna take me a bit

[dull obsidian]

xdx

[buoyant wagon]

you know what was funny

[dull obsidian]

?

[buoyant wagon]

the guy who owned the account was like "re supercharge db is smoge"

after watching me play it

"ok its a hands issue"

[dull obsidian]

All blade specs are op

[sand marsh]

but i dont think i did terrible for my first hell experience. valtan & clown. im used to tanking everything.

[dull obsidian]

[sand marsh]

the valtan exp is what i wanted the most cause of extreme

[tulip charm]

pepo rope
been 2 weeks now

[dull obsidian]

I kinda want to watch CN content

[buoyant wagon]

having to chug pots though because my support was a 90k hp artist with 900 spec and level 5 gems is kinda

[sand marsh]

now its time for bedge

[buoyant wagon]

[sand marsh]

[dull obsidian]

Just dodge 4head

Did you have any pugs?

[buoyant wagon]

nah full inhouse

they wont let me suffer with pugs

[dull obsidian]

Lmao

[supple parrot]

Zheng keep on honing alts even past 1620

[buoyant wagon]

might run a g4 later

[supple parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-adorable-duckling-haha-classic-gif-17283485

[buoyant wagon]

but i might have to play zerker or glaive

neither of which im that familiar with

[tulip charm]

its the glavier weapon -_-

[supple parrot]

It’s alrdy 1620

Why r u still honing it

Just wait for advanced honing

[tulip charm]

just using bounds only, been 2 weeks though -_-

[supple parrot]

If u got gold then upgrade gems

[sand marsh]

kanima said if u dont hit 1630 and wait for echidna honing u will be gatekept in hm thaemine

or w/e that guys name is

[tulip charm]

i actually haven't seen that guy's vids for awhile, his vids stopped showing up in my feeds for some reason

[supple parrot]

What r u talking about. Thaemine hm is 1630. If u park at 1620 u can’t go in hm. How u get gatekept?

[random ginkgo]

Who is gonna be doing thaemine hm on alts

[sand marsh]

i dont like watching him. he's alwaysa doomer

[sand marsh]

no. if u dont do hm thaemine until echidna comes out is what he was saying

like staying at 1620 until echidna

[supple parrot]

Ur gonna do hm thaemine on alts?

[sand marsh]

u will obviously

[supple parrot]

Key word = alt

[tulip charm]

not sure why but one day his vids just stopped showing up, kinda strange

[sand marsh]

cause u rmt

[flint yacht]

how to do this quest ??

[tulip charm]

thaemine hm is for you guys, there is no way to achieve 1630 via bounds, even in 2 months time

[supple parrot]

It’s still quite a lot of raw gold

[sand marsh]

go to tower. in major cities

i think shadespire is tier 1?

[supple parrot]

Literally everyone uses unbounds

On main

[sand marsh]

not real f2p

honing with unbounds

smh

[supple parrot]

I have over 2k bounds on main

Prob would need to use 1-2k unbounds to hit 1630

[sand marsh]

well u do have a while until thaemine

u can prolly get another 2k before then

[supple parrot]

Thaemine hm with 22 weapon could be rough

I think ppl are overplaying the difficulty tho

[sand marsh]

jus hone to 23

[supple parrot]

With guides

It’s doable

[tulip charm]

i thought you could keep doing it, even after the 100/100 "!"

[sand marsh]

what i heard one KR guy said, is that NA has it easier because we gatekeep all the bad players. whereas KR does not so much.

[tulip charm]

are you fking srs, its gone

[flint yacht]

which tower???

[sand marsh]

shadespire

says in the quest

go to floor 10

[supple parrot]

? The first mode clears. U think they had bad players in those groups?

[flint yacht]

OK Ty

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

well majority of people in KR (I think), had to do voldis hm 1-4 with elixirs

[supple parrot]

Keep in mind I’m talking about hm on rlease. Which is the first mode

[wind dagger]

I have been getting hidden bosses back to back

[supple parrot]

Average player sucks in every region. Nothing new

[sand marsh]

i imagine most 1620s cleared week 1 no prob

maybe not tho

[tulip charm]

"the first" stays around forever i think? you just get a fat first time clear reward ?

[sand marsh]

it does

[supple parrot]

On release hm will be the first mode

[sand marsh]

amazons mistake is not releasing the first. giving us the un-nerfed hm difficulty

should be the first & nerfed hm on release

[supple parrot]

They want ppl to fomo

And hone 25 weapons

Esther’s

[tulip charm]

no, i think this is good

[supple parrot]

But I’ll just do it with 22 weapon as a f2p

[sand marsh]

for what reason?

besides amazon getting more money

sorry, i mean third party websites

[steel minnow]

@sand marsh u dont have to go to city anymore

@flint yacht u dony have to go to city u can click on tower in altq

[dawn yacht]

[tulip charm]

even if i can't do the raid on release, there are alot of people looking foward to the unnerfed hard version, they swiped hard and prepped already, they want that prestige for the early clears

its weird to deprive people of that

[sand marsh]

thats why the first exist

u can have both

these two difficulties are mutually exclusive.

there's no logical reason

[tulip charm]

they gotta give people a incentive to go on a swiping marathon

[sand marsh]

That's what the First is for. Un-nerfed version of thaemine.

You can have both

[uneven mortar]

the prestige will be taken by people who paid koreans 10k to first clear in first 1 hour of raid release

[tulip charm]

don't worry, it will be fine, first 10 groups are gonna clear it in week 1, then 9 of them will be banned for buying pilots, then they gonna remake their accounts and swipe even more, this is a winning stradegy

[dawn yacht]

[supple parrot]

Just go in on ilvl f2p

[dawn yacht]

Yes like chuan f2p

[uneven mortar]

ags wont spare the manpower

[dawn yacht]

[uneven mortar]

lol

[sand marsh]

im not complaining about it for my sake. i think it's bad overall no matter how u look at it.

but dats my opinion. it is what it is.

[uneven mortar]

this is the same company where rox said pheon wont be taken, then everyone is put into negative

[dawn yacht]

@silver hollow

[sand marsh]

it'll just be a brel 2.0 situation

[dawn yacht]

Lurking fker

[sand marsh]

depending on how long the un-nerfed version stays around for

[supple parrot]

It’s good for casuals. They can do nm without feeling left out. Cuz they are so far away from clearing the first mode it ain’t even worth trying

[dawn yacht]

[wind dagger]

[dawn yacht]

[supple parrot]

[sand marsh]

Sure but I could hone to 1630 if I wanted too. the problem is i dont wanna do the un-nerfed version.

having to wait is stupid

[sand marsh]

if the outcome is inevitable why do this

[wind dagger]

[steel minnow]

U know how much it costs to get 1630 lil bro?

[supple parrot]

Buy a pilot or get better hands then

[sand marsh]

cost doesnt matter

[dawn yacht]

what about it

[wind dagger]

[buoyant wagon]

scalp "cost doesn't matter" f2p

[sand marsh]

not about better hands. i dont think we dont need super hard difficult raids tied to progression.

[tulip charm]

your not wrong they can have both, but thats from the player's perspective, from a monetary standpoint its better for them to do it this way

[dawn yacht]

Why you on my profile tho

[sand marsh]

this has always been my opinion tho

[steel minnow]

Rmters

[dawn yacht]

[wind dagger]

checking whether you have changed anything

[supple parrot]

I don’t think it will be that hard… with guides.. it was that hard for kr cuz they had to do it blind

[wind dagger]

I'm a professional stalker

[dawn yacht]

[sand marsh]

watching a video doesn't make it that much easier. u gotta press buttons still

[still lintel]

Gotta check if your got new pfp or not

[supple parrot]

If u think guide doesn’t make it way easier than blind then

[dawn yacht]

[tulip charm]

its just my opinion, but i think CN brel released goofed

they really should have sent out the old g5 and g6

[sand marsh]

nah ur crazy

[tulip charm]

for like a 2 or 3 month, then delete prokel and g5

[sand marsh]

people hated 6 gates of brel.

and i think thaemine will be the same with its difficulty not being nerfed on release.

[supple parrot]

How long did it take for ppl to clear brel hm on release on kr

Blind

[sand marsh]

on release?

[supple parrot]

Ye

[sand marsh]

lol brel hm on release was way harder than our release. so its hard to say

[tulip charm]

its not really hate or like, even majority of the people didn't like the old g6, plenty of people liked the old g2 prokel, its more about players experiencing the original content for abit first

[sand marsh]

the fact it got nerfed so many times is a problem in itself.

[silver hollow]

2 weeks atleast it was just as hard as theamine on release

[tulip charm]

like you think CN kaya release they will delete g1 rightaway? the annoying ass griffon boss?

[buoyant wagon]

yes

they released every raid so far with our adjustments

[tulip charm]

i actually like the raid adjustments they did for brel on CN, i am not even gonna call it a nerf, just adjustments

[sand marsh]

nah i dislike this opinion. releasing 1-4 only is a good thing. it means most of the playerbase can experience it with little to no issues.

[tulip charm]

i don't like their CN kaku nerfs though

[sand marsh]

releasing an un-nerfed version is just saying fuck u to the casuals

[supple parrot]

U know what u call adjustments that make it easier

[neon cedar]

As a casual, I'm okay with it bcause its supposed to be hard and we know itll be nerfed in a couple weeks

[supple parrot]

Nerf

[sand marsh]

why not. its dead content. it should be nerfed.

vykas got a nerf. i didnt see any complaining about that

[supple parrot]

I mean yalls opinions about cn changes don’t even matter. It’s alrdy done and yall don’t play there

[tulip charm]

they only really nerfed for normal, and thats fine, hm pretty much the same except there is no alternating 2/3 meteors, its always 3

[silver hollow]

Honestly i don’t understand ur point why are u caring for the player base that includes average bozo’s who are usually well geared and over geared for the content they’ve learnt and still fuck it up months later

[tulip charm]

for us its dead content yea, but for them, not yet

[supple parrot]

? They don’t even have hm yet do they?

How u know what’s changed for hm

[sand marsh]

it allows more people to do the content.

[supple parrot]

Zheng the time traveler

[silver hollow]

Wouldn’t you want some challenge and to have fun progging hard stuff and testing the limits of urself and ur character as oppose to going in overgeared to one shot the boss and call it a day

[sand marsh]

the argument of "get good or uninstall" is extremely cringe to me.

[silver hollow]

[silver hollow]

Bruh ur general playerbase is bad

legit

[sand marsh]

No. Not when I have 16 other raids to do. Maybe if that wasn't the case, my opinion would change.

[keen copper]

[silver hollow]

So ur telling me u rather turn the game into a job rather than having fun

On ur main

[supple parrot]

Just don’t do them?

[neon cedar]

As someone who plays the game hardcore, but is not a hardcore raider. No tbh. Raids are mandatory for progression and im not always looking to slog away on difficult challenges

Just trying to have fun

[sand marsh]

your idea and my idea of fun are two different things. its subjective.

[lean pewter]

just swipe like chuan

[tulip charm]

i am okay with both, to have some of the former and some of the later

[supple parrot]

What if I told u. U don’t need to run every single raid on every char every week

[sand marsh]

not having fun for me = not being able to do all my raids and being behind on gold/honing progression

fun to others may = sweating there buttocks off

[silver hollow]

Yh but it wont stay like that forever legit we get the nerfed version a few weeks later

[steel minnow]

They didnt clear first week

[silver hollow]

So idk whats the issue

[keen copper]

scalp is the embodiment of fomo

[steel minnow]

No

[supple parrot]

But ur literally alrdy so behind that u would never catch up without swiping more and more

[delicate sandal]

[sand marsh]

compared to you, maybe.

[silver hollow]

Ig but still ur opinion on caring for the general player bade makes no sense cuz on the other hand ur leaving those ppl that want some challenge out of the pic, some ppl like chuan rmt’ed for a reason some whale’s actually have hands

[sand marsh]

plenty of other people i play with, not so much.

[neon cedar]

Well for sure. I want to be able to play and keep up and have fun. I dont want to have to wait because SG makes the ONLY form of vertical progression behind a huge challenge. I would agree with you if there were more options to progress

[tulip charm]

wait wat? i thought scalp is always running the latest content his not behind

[silver hollow]

Having a challenge on release is fun

[sand marsh]

if u dont care for the general playerbase, no one will. then the game just dies. gotta look at the bigger picture. thats how i see it.

[supple parrot]

He would need to play 20 hours a day for 3 months to catch up to u

[steel minnow]

I got 1 lvl 10 gem across all my 6 alts xdd

[wind dagger]

[sand marsh]

there are MMOs that exist, that cater to both hardcore and casual playerbase.

[silver hollow]

I mean we are not in a rush u would still progress either way 1-3 “the first” still gives enough mats

[delicate sandal]

u r behind

[sand marsh]

Lost ark only caters to one.

[silver hollow]

Ppl till this day do 1-3 only hm

And they progress just fine

[keen copper]

me

[steel minnow]

I got 1 1620 1 1610 1 1605 and 1 1600 11580 i like honing way 2 much

[supple parrot]

Yes these same ppl don’t believe im f2p when i just do more than them

[silver hollow]

Chuan please

[ancient tundra]

Ig but still ur opinion on caring for the general player bade makes no sense cuz on the other hand ur leaving those ppl that want some challenge out of the pic, some ppl like chuan rmt’ed for a reason some whale’s actually have hands

[silver hollow]

Stop it

[supple parrot]

[delicate sandal]

im tired of not being able to hone

[rocky plume]

[steel minnow]

I do 1-3 hm i never learned g4 hm and i got no intention of doung so either

[silver hollow]

I was talking about KR

[ancient tundra]

Insanity time let s goo

[supple parrot]

??? If I rmt u think I would be min ilvl?

[silver hollow]

they do 1-3 HM theamine

[steel minnow]

Oh

[silver hollow]

G4 is not always done

[steel minnow]

I thought u meant brel

[sand marsh]

whats crazy is you can have challenge & easy content at the same time. easy enough for anyone to do. but lost ark fails to do that.

[ancient tundra]

I m just trolling midoo didn't t even read what he typed

Lmao

[supple parrot]

[silver hollow]

[dawn yacht]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1104676948220846104/1116466431786233956/togif.gif

[rocky plume]

Nm is easy enough for casuals

[supple parrot]

This blasphemy against me

Has to stop

[sand marsh]

i dont think its easy enough. for some raids that is.

[cursive ruin]

release dn

[full igloo]

Just finished all 1580 stronghold research ( the last one I had )
I now understand why you guys craft prime oreha ( 1580+ )
it's literally 20%~40% cheaper depending of the price of the market

[silver hollow]

Bro not every raid is gonna be another akkan

Just git gud

[sand marsh]

the problem is when u have 'thaemines' tied to progression.

[silver hollow]

Thats why 1620s with 40 sets are doing no dmg in hm ivory

[sand marsh]

so its either get guud or uninstall.

[silver hollow]

Spoiled noobs

[sand marsh]

pretty stupid point

[ancient tundra]

Vykas was tied to progression too

Since g1 was skill check

[silver hollow]

Bro its an end game content ????

What do u expect

[ancient tundra]

A lot of ppl failed it

[silver hollow]

[ancient tundra]

Back then

[sand marsh]

u can have end game content that is easy?

[silver hollow]

????

[still lintel]

Get trauma mod if there is one for lethal

[sand marsh]

is LA the only mmo u played?

[ancient tundra]

I need to check if there is would be insane bro

[silver hollow]

Or u can just get better at a game that u been playing for 2 years and invested more than 8k hours in ( not u specially) but anyone who reached theamine lvl

[tulip charm]

jesus christ gunlancer is too op, 3:30kill

[silver hollow]

Surely u are not a causal by then

Surely

[still lintel]

Get ptsd and seeing hallucinations if you dont shower

[rocky plume]

I never played tower. I have at the Moment no time for Learning 4 gates + Support

[sand marsh]

im not speaking for myself. anyone with 8k hours would be fine. the gap is what im talking about.

[ancient tundra]

Someone that reached thaemine has to be decent

Ngl

[full igloo]

Is the debate about thaemine difficulty and the "problem" of not being able to progress on the first or two weeks on its release due to not being nerf ?

[silver hollow]

Just wanting to be spoon fed the mats cuz u have 6x theamines to do is so weird man

[supple parrot]

What? He is fighter

And 3 30 is slow

[sand marsh]

i dont think there is a logical reason for un-nerfed version of hm, when you can just add 'the first'. what korea has.

[silver hollow]

Exactly

[sand marsh]

monetization would be the only reason

[silver hollow]

Its a challenge for once

[sand marsh]

and thats why u have the first

[neon cedar]

I just dont think Medoo understand the fnudamental thing youre getting at Deathboi. I know what you mean tho

[tulip charm]

i mean, i haven't had higher than 3:20ish, its pretty fast for me, he died right after flowermech

[buoyant wagon]

nobody is unironically swiping to 1630 just to do the first

[full igloo]

It's a pretty good way to bait the whales tho, as the difficulty will make them FOMOing for upgrading their char just so they could show of their wallet might to the community

[buoyant wagon]

every serious team that has a realistic shot at it is already above 1630 or near it

[full igloo]

to be honest, in a P2W game, it's not surprising to see such a move

[tulip charm]

idk about this, i am sure alot of people will

[sand marsh]

yeah. as i said. monetization. there's no reason for an actual player to defend it.

[rocky plume]

I play G1-2 hm G3 nm

[full igloo]

of course they show it as letting the try hard part of the community challeging the raid

[buoyant wagon]

you cant overgear g3/g4 other than esther 8 anyways

[lean pewter]

who the fuck cares about the first in our version anyway, not like it's gonna be blind prog anymore

[supple parrot]

I mean u have to skip flower to get a sub 3 min run. The flower mech takes so long. Just throw dark at start. If yall had 3 darks might’ve skipped it. My fastest is like 2 30 or something

[buoyant wagon]

if they want to be stupid and hone to 1630 and get stuck on g3/4 that's on them

[neon cedar]

Destiny was amazing because you could do Vertical progression in raids and get gear fast. But you could also 100% ignore raids and progress through only pvp, or only pve or a mix in betweeen

[sand marsh]

and my point isn't just thaemine but raiding in general. but ive voiced this opinion for over a year. the solo raids they plan on releasing is nice, but it should exist for all content not just valtan & vykas.

[tulip charm]

wait a minute...weren't supps charging 10-20k for voldi hm for about a month after the raid came out?

how much could a rogue 1630 supp charge for thaemine, hmm....

[lean pewter]

they still do

[tulip charm]

💰

[full igloo]

that's a smart move I would say if you don't want to fully hone beforehand and use transcendence to offset later on

[buoyant wagon]

there arent going to be 1630 pug supports

they're going to be in normal mode or in statics

[still lintel]

When I tried destiny you had to find groups on discord for raids and dungeons.

Wasnt a ingame pf and queuea never popped

[neon cedar]

Yea, Destinys in game pf was dogshit

[rocky plume]

Iam waiting for the nerfed version

[sand marsh]

alternate means of progresssion would be amazing in this game, but if they want it to be an exclusive raiding game, you can capture a lot more people with a "LFR" difficulty that gives rewards. which is what solo raiding is supposed to be, i guess. i just hope it's for all existing content.

[lean pewter]

[tulip charm]

your being too rational, there is always gonna be the guys that rage honed, or only play dps and think their +25weapon will get supps to come

[cursive ruin]

THAEMINE more like thee mine balls

[buoyant wagon]

if you're not 1635+ with 25 weapon, full 10s, a strong 40 set elixir, los30, nearly capped demon damage, and dont have good logs/gameplay footage

you might as well give up on finding a group with a realistic shot to clear the first

not to mention the time commitment

[supple parrot]

Just do 1-3 and then 4 normal ez

[buoyant wagon]

that is the smart play

[rocky plume]

G4 is only hm?

[buoyant wagon]

also g4 is hm

[supple parrot]

Is it?

[buoyant wagon]

so 1-2 hard 3 nm

[neon cedar]

I'm looking forward to that a lot. I have alts sitting at 1580 for weeks because I just dont feel like grinding raids back-to-back on ilvl. Its completely just the way I enjoy gaming. Having options is huge

[buoyant wagon]

yes

[supple parrot]

Just do 1-3 then

3 isn’t that bad is it

[full igloo]

Since I came back to late to the game, I'll be 1610 either way so only NM for me

[sand marsh]

Same.

[buoyant wagon]

3 is still mech heavy

with little forgiveness

dps wise there's the horse phase

[wind dagger]

[supple parrot]

I think kr ppl overplaying the dps check as always. I’m sure I’ll be able to make the dps check with 22 weapon

[buoyant wagon]

if you can hit around 29-30m in trixion

you should be able to meet the horse phase check

[tulip charm]

its too early to worry about this anyways, still 2 months i thought

[rocky plume]

2 month is a long time

[quiet igloo]

OG little red Riding Hood story is WILD

Never reading that shit again

[supple parrot]

I’m not even close to that 30 mil trixion is basically only entropy classes and se

[rocky plume]

I do without elexir 32m dps

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

removing 2 players = realistically the math is closer to around 29-30m

[rocky plume]

Sc RE is broke

[supple parrot]

Ya but the raid gives u buff too doesn’t it?

[buoyant wagon]

actual in-raid dps requirement number is different

due to buffs

the calculations are using trixion numbers as a benchmark

[rocky plume]

In raids you have Support maybe good synergy + dark

[supple parrot]

U can’t do that tho cuz some classes inherently has high trixion but doesn’t get close to those numbers in raid

[buoyant wagon]

it's a trixion favored phase

[ancient tundra]

Most of the true stories of fairytales are fucked no joke

[buoyant wagon]

boss barely moves for a minute

[supple parrot]

That’s one phase. We talking about whole raid

[buoyant wagon]

that dps req is only for that phase

rest of the raid you dont need that much

[supple parrot]

What u linked is about the entirety of g4

I have seen the post

Those numbers

[quiet igloo]

Og fairy tale books are actually just horror story books

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

that post

[quiet igloo]

[buoyant wagon]

literally says g3 for that phase alone

[supple parrot]

The paragraph you linked

Is about g4

[ancient tundra]

Most of them are bad endings

Lowkey

[wind dagger]

snow white

who can fund me 15k real quick

[rocky plume]

I think thaemine hm has the same Issue like akkan hm

[quiet igloo]

nice opinion, one small issue. I've planted a landmine in an undisclosed location inside your house. Every step you take is a... Risky move........

[buoyant wagon]

did chuan fail ESL

[dawn yacht]

[burnt tree]

Yes

[buoyant wagon]

because nowhere does it say g4

[quiet igloo]

Um ackshually

According to my calculations

[rocky plume]

Nice Akkan nm in 1min

[wind dagger]

im gonna install lethal company, play with ken

and then jail him

[quiet igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/me-looking-for-who-asked-who-asked-meme-did-i-ask-searching-finding-gif-26259890

[neon cedar]

Free me, I will step on every inch of my home

[still lintel]

Someone wanna fund my scrapper to hit 1620 before wednesday?

[quiet igloo]

[supple parrot]

It ain’t accounting for darks and attros too

[burnt tree]

Nope

[wind dagger]

why u changing your username

[supple parrot]

And some burst classes will innately do more here cuz will go in with full gauge

[still lintel]

You are like 3 weeks late to notice

[wind dagger]

also, anyone wants preppy chest piece for discount?

[quiet igloo]

No

[burnt tree]

No

[quiet igloo]

[wind dagger]

who asked you?

this is for scrapper only

[quiet igloo]

You?

[wind dagger]

[burnt tree]

I have a Scrapper

[quiet igloo]

I literally have a scrapper

[wind dagger]

yall dont play

[quiet igloo]

Stfu I logged in three days ago

[burnt tree]

[full igloo]

I have a ghost scrapper too

[quiet igloo]

[burnt tree]

Im literally logged on rn

[wind dagger]

lmao 3 days ago

[dawn yacht]

? i dont mind losing bozo what jail you yapping about

[wind dagger]

winners win

[burnt tree]

so true

[wind dagger]

what happened to that

[cursive ruin]

boots n cats

[dawn yacht]

i never said anything related to that ?

[wind dagger]

you just login, stay logged and do nothing else except chaos dungeon

[quiet igloo]

[wind dagger]

[burnt tree]

now my PC is pogcrazy so i do stuff

[wind dagger]

specs?

[burnt tree]

i dont feel bad anymore partying with ppl

ask fuego im lazy

[wind dagger]

[quiet igloo]

4090 128 gigs of ddr5 ram 12th Gen i9 water cooler?

Otherwise it's trash

[burnt tree]

[quiet igloo]

Can't wait for the 5000 series to release!

We love Nvidia!

[burnt tree]

i probs wont switch to it gonna wait a few years

[peak loom]

lack of silver SUCKS

[burnt tree]

how?

[peak loom]

mutiple alts

[dawn yacht]

stock up on ram and ssds cuz production will be limited and prices will increase 60%

[burnt tree]

just dont hone all of em at once

problem solved

[burnt tree]

whats this military insider info?

[dawn yacht]

just read some news

[quiet igloo]

5000 series gunna have even worse cooling issues

[burnt tree]

no thanks

[wind dagger]

hmm grayons

[burnt tree]

the only news i care about are stellar blade and ff7 rebirth

[quiet igloo]

I'm surprised we still have silicon

Thought we'd have run out by now

[cursive ruin]

buhhh!!!

[quiet igloo]

net had a stroke

[cursive ruin]

:buh:

[quiet igloo]

[cursive ruin]

who has the buhh emote

kotpog

[quiet igloo]

[cursive ruin]

chris has buhh

[quiet igloo]

[burnt tree]

net broke

[cursive ruin]

do you guys not know the emote

[quiet igloo]

He's just saying the names of the emojis now

[cursive ruin]

it's like a fucked up version of the feelsdankman emote

[quiet igloo]

Ultimate f2p discord user

[dawn yacht]

when greek god physique ?

[quiet igloo]

[cursive ruin]

wtf

[quiet igloo]

[burnt tree]

by summer

[cursive ruin]

I have nitro

[dawn yacht]

[quiet igloo]

[buoyant wagon]

alright time to pilot glaivier in g4

despite having no idea how to play this class

[quiet igloo]

If you look into the mirror for more then ten minutes, you see what schizophrenic mfs see

[stark grove]

[rocky plume]

Avg silver

[dawn yacht]

[burnt tree]

still good enough to never lopang

[quiet igloo]

Try it

I'd do it but that would require standing

Don't wanna

[rocky plume]

Thats right and maybe gem reroll service

[quiet igloo]

Sathona doesn't need gold

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-orange-cat-orange-cats-cat-weird-gif-17010424884748616697

[quiet igloo]

He has like

200 bil

[burnt tree]

?

[quiet igloo]

Blatant photo shop bro

[dawn yacht]

[quiet igloo]

We all know ur the CEO of lost ark in disguise

[dawn yacht]

actually azrael delivered gold to satho

[rocky plume]

50k is avg gold

[quiet igloo]

[dawn yacht]

he is chuans left hand

[quiet igloo]

Lies

I'm f2p

[dawn yacht]

[quiet igloo]

[burnt tree]

if i was lost ark wouldnt be trash

😔

[quiet igloo]

[supple parrot]

[dawn yacht]

gojo vs sun jin woo who wins

[quiet igloo]

Sun

[burnt tree]

Jinwoo

[quiet igloo]

Gojo is actually weak outside his verse

[burnt tree]

yeah

[quiet igloo]

Most jjk characters are actually

[burnt tree]

Jinwoo doesnt need to rely in universe to use his own

[dawn yacht]

i lost braincells reading comments on a gojo vs sun jin woo reel

[quiet igloo]

No like scaling

[rocky plume]

Yellow

[dawn yacht]

jjk fans are dented

[quiet igloo]

Gojo is pretty weak

[stark grove]

rmt

[quiet igloo]

The whole jjk verse is

[burnt tree]

ofc jjk fans are dented

[quiet igloo]

I'm dented

[dawn yacht]

its soup

[quiet igloo]

[rocky plume]

Its Silver

[lean pewter]

HI DENTED

[burnt tree]

plus one of the two are dead

[quiet igloo]

?

[stark grove]

[cursive ruin]

bro

you just posted the emote i'm looking for

[dawn yacht]

confirmed death as well

[quiet igloo]

Who is the sun guy btw

[cursive ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/933844508410540102.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[quiet igloo]

[cursive ruin]

buuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[quiet igloo]

[burnt tree]

he could still return but if we compare him and jinwoo

he has no chance ong

Jinwoo by the end is a different beast

[quiet igloo]

Yeah who is that

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-brad-pitt-movie-film-gif-19447049

[lean pewter]

who is who

[quiet igloo]

Sounds like the name of every Korean guy

[dawn yacht]

yeah earth cant even handle his mana anymore

[burnt tree]

its a korean novel/webtoon that recently got an anime

[quiet igloo]

Oh that one

[burnt tree]

bro is restarting peoples awakenings from just existing

[quiet igloo]

Infinite mana dude solos

Easily

[dawn yacht]

[burnt tree]

even Jinwoos son would take on Gojo

[full igloo]

I love it compare to scrapper back then