#lost-ark-discussions
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looted this last week at voldi normal i think
I'm not opening them 

didnt get his salary from chuan
Saving for a while, then opening 40 and getting 39 duplicates
@full igloo

go out in cold water or go for a run

Nice dye.
cant
waiting to visit someone in the hospital
Wait, this your gunslinger? 
The bot warned me last time for the same type of post with skin type dye

Really? Odd.
It's straight from in-game 
Silly bot.
@valid turtle and i drinking the pool water
https://www.twitch.tv/zealsambitions
Maybe tonight is the night for them.
DROPS| STREAMERS !ECHIDNA 2ND DAY | BLADE NERFED? IDC I'M STILL MAINING HER !멤버 !GG
@sand marshcuz ur not bussing ur main doesnt look like this
true chad use lvl 7~8 event gem
its all gone already from cutting elixirs, and getting all dogsht
ok but what about ur wallet
no bus, juz pure f2p gameplay 
sure.
im short 2m to get full 10 on scrapper actually 
only 3 hours ?
you had quite the skilled newbie group
ah the dice
I forgot most of it after so long always skip due to too much dps
well it's not that hard tho, just retreat and bring card to your mate while taking your card
not using g9 r6 etc ?
Thijshs the


yep he stream far less due to the baby
Understandable

was it the lantern shadow that got you ?

ya poison died first and i got distracted

floor enjoyer
so true

not a single pellets miss from your gun
even in front of the boss, not missing even one, even when the boss pattern fall on your head, not missing one

live as a dps, die as a dps

where martin mvp
mvp racist thats all
i was gonna try a new restaurant, on the way from station to the place i lost my appetite
🤢
hm?
sorry to hear that ill eat some strawberries and strawberry ice cream to make up for it
wdym
the nebula
if you want a funny MVP screen, when I came back to the game, after doing the story/leveling and reach 1415.
I did matchmake valtan normal mode G1 then got jailed on G2, came back later in the day with ilvl 1490.
Ended up alone before even ghost phase.


matchmaking legion raids are to be avoided
k ill put it beside scalp

i knew it man whenever theres a uni its a shithole
when i told them that you posted me floor pov
they were like "invite him i like that"

seraph singlehandedly bringing back deadgeye
that was my scouter but ye my roster of 3 deadeyes keeps growing

i think ill use pass in march on ss
and then after that ill keep building deadeyes 

I had a different type of reaper in my Kayangel learning party
both cruel fighter

fuckin hell
so that mean the reaper did so little dps
ya its either one or the other
either they have giga hands
or they are floor pov
no in between

have u played ss before
But that's not a big
char.
its like clunkier pistoleer
i have no big booba characters
only smol booba
i have one hes 1501
going to play deathstrike
shit seems really fun
yeah theres no point going LC
ya braindead build
cause the spells are the same its just less strong death strike

big booba are overated anyway
SO true
SO true
People should go for big men like Luterra
only men who long for the touch of other men like big booba cause its like a man chest
That collar.
Well you can have his descendant too
Thirain is okay
just a bit too kind
Too kind? 
he already used up his rage as a kid
too much sweetness is no good
close

and completed eternity isle
I'm sure he has a darkside
but the game need to SFW
look at his eyes
completing it on ayaya 
ok reasonable you're both kids here
nah I'm a yoz
only nia is a kid
Human bed are too big for yoz, it's not even king's size anymore
probably for the best
She even grabbed the smallest pillow 
no Nineveh kiss.
What Anime is this from?
You should know 
Maybe this is shounen, what do I know?
lovebirds 
nineveh is probably a bad kisser anyway
had to censor it
I don't even know what shounen anime means 
So true

Shounen = adolescent boy
What does it mean?
gapped by pretty much every other rapportable
Did you ever watch Isekai Shokudou, restaurant to Another World
@full igloo @sand marsh
With those eyes of her, she can be a bad kisser, I don't mind
Eyes > all
open eyes while kissing 
You didn't watch this? It's cute 
are u an owl sandrea
half closed eyes are okay but full open eyes is a bit creepy
It's good action, food action 
It's nothing like Food Wars
@sand marsh but I do like Food Wars too, but Isekai Shokudou, is nothing like that.
You know she turns into a huge ass dragon? 
I mean, I can believe you never do with your Microwaved potatos
but food can be really tasty 
even better
Help him 
Food wars is anime Japan-ified master chef 
You ever watch Iron Chef?
@nova garden
Eh, master chef better
I did this with matchmaking for valtan normal mode when I came back weeks ago, it was fun and faster than making a lobby
poor mokoko
I just watch master chef
u aint working right now 
Iron Chef first and better 
Master chef cool


they taste a dish and just coom
The Squid one is.
too many stuff that are completely okay even to 13+ but can't post
gem price is dropping 
Ye, I'm not watching that shit 
Had to, for culture purpose. Not great. Those veteran are right to shut the other one.
guess ppl honing more 1620s
Should I spend a ticket on this to turn here into Janna?
I got the armor skins but the hair is wrong @full igloo
and gearing their end of pass chars
people FOMOing for thaemine 3 months in advance



I did buy a ticket just to change hair and tattoo colour to match my skins and cahracter with the throne mount

well 1620 is the new parking spot thanks to adv honing anyway
do it pussy

Before
im at 200k too

It's supposed to be this skin 
i guess u didnt just play around with it for a day
can't you advanced honing with echidna normal mode ?
Really wish they had a damn hairdresser in the game for simple fix, I get that you might need a ticket for big changes, but just hair style shouldn't be a full ticket
@full igloo
I AGREE
I HATE IT
they would make much more money that way too since people would be constantly changing their char
but they rather stay dumb about it


And let's be real, a lot of skins, looks better with another hairstyle.
But It's way to expensive to keep changing.


It's the worst to change outfits only for your chars nice hair to clip through it oddly
Loan me 500k

i dont even have 50k on nae
1620 so u can do thaemine nm/echidna normal -> hone 10 lvls to hm

today im not going to die to bullshit in winter survival 
Just give us a basic hairdresser in-game for hair change...
Loan me 49k

i have less than 100 gold
no donation is too small for me

I'll Loan you 50 dn

50 dn ? you need at least 25 men for that
that's dedication

Are they talking about Lost Ark?
I have more than enough to hand out
people going for multiple echidna hm clears week 1
looks much more chill than thaemine for sure
chuan cant walk anymore?
So close 
they have transcendence tho
ya ive seen it before

if you were to switch echidna and thaemine
so no transcendence, it would be less chill
u just unlock the first lvls of transcendance from nm
then 1630 lets u do hm to unlock the rest of it
It's kinds cool 
if 11-20 adv honing is cheaper than honing armor normally then u can just do hm for both
esp if they are aeromancer
like
really good concept
if i make an aero imma do it

i have forecast janna skin
in league
they wiping at 0 bar mech
Damn, they wiped on 0x 


you need to play drizzle then
can't go windfury
windfury has just some tornado and that's it

janna is all about tornado
is this enough for 1610

from what
no
yeah enough for 1620
but prove me wrong
but the skin is forecast janna, so having rain, thunder etc is much better
- Janna is not using a blade to fight
so true
going 1 1620 is pretty ez tbh
can i borrow those
look at THESE numbers at a 4PM
ill give it back in like 5 months
if ur a 1620 sup scalp would prob do that 
u have that many bounds wtf
still need to get to 1610
3k unbound is not much if its a 1600 char or something..
my 1622 main has over 2k bounds 

just do dailies and dont hone, ur gold and bounds go up rly quick
i usually dont have more than like 200
ive never liked honing in one session
hi fhanum

bro thats big depresso moment
Another survey
Hi fhanum
@nova garden #freefhanum

its ok we have better server anyway
like everyone with good gaming taste
Same samee 
holy no dps meter
do you want chaos to enfold ?
every is a big word
wait degen gonna be mad if he sees this
all my statics use it


TTH to the moon 
I'm sure not even 1% of the playerbase use dps meter
Do you use it? 

damn i must run into the 1% all the time
its fine for global but i dont think they like third party apps in asia
it's widely used among established players
they are usually more strict about these things
abt 50% use
to see how well you are performing
nah theres def more but prob not majority
korea doesnt detect it but you cant talk about it or you get outed
china can detect it with tencent's anticheat so it will never release there
actual balancing = less money from whales, so no
I would use meter if It was legal, since I could better monitor my own buff/debuff up-time and general performance 
Vanguard lol
imagine man not having dps meter
that way i can never get banned
would use it if game printed out a text doc like ff 


we have the best policy
Pass, holy, just give us Recount from WoW 
my ststic always ask for their result
what's the point tho, dps, do mech, dps, do mech, kill the boss before it enrage, the end.
so i keep giving them
no action taken unless you go out of your way to harass other people
and they improving
do you think it's fine if someone casts 1 skill a minute as long as the raid clears?
you don't need a dps meter to see someone slacking
some downloads it thenself
kinda hard to see otherwise
?
you dont always have time to observe if someone is actually having reasonable cpm
Wtf is semi-F2P
people also play with effects off
doesnt wow also do the exact same thing but addons and dps meter are just allowed to be talked about and openly used?
also details > recount
nope its dead
they dont run SA
but someone seeing they play bad do wonder for their improvement

or ether together
WoW activly encourages addons 
yesterday i did a quick kay nm and this 1580 sh was doing avg 1.8mil across 3 gates

chadlev
F2p plus 1000usd
mb u found aerroonn
guy goes to wrong quadrant for g3 100 hp bars and then types "idiot"


the argument that as long as the raid clears, everything is fine is terrible
ok, in the grand scheme of things it doesnt really matter if you are clearing right? but like for instance i had no idea i was SO bad at paly until my friend told me my brand uptime was like 60%
and encourages extremely shoddy gameplay
at the expense of other people having to carry dead weight
and damage buff to near 70%
I'm not saying the dps meter is only bad, of course it has its own positive side but on a lot of games, developers refuse to implement it.
Reason ? It bring much more negative than positive.
so my support gameplay improved drastically
they dont want to implement it because it would expose balancing issues
u just learned to not faceroll everything at once u didnt need meter for that 
thats why i like it
and whales being terrible
its mostly cuz they cant balance for shit
but support is ez ofc you just faceroll

with how long meter has been in the game
I mean, depending on the person, different people want different things, I want to do as best as I can when playing, and having a meter to tell me in plain text what I did good and what I could work on would personally help me
Like, take brand on support, there are a lot of supports that don't even reach 50% while you should never be under 90%+
you rarely see any toxicity associated with it
yeah people will clown on shitters in discord/voice chat
i mean most whales thst use it is actually decent player
literally had a 1600+ bard with 20% brand up time in brel, died at like 200 bars, i did the raid without him cuz it was 0 diff 
Also, this game has MVP system, so we can already get a general gist of who's playing badly 
But a dps meter with details would help to identify why.
Yeah I get that but the negative side on the community is far too strong.
Look at how wow and other old mmos handle people with the dps meter.
i had a bard who made his/her/its own fuckin build man
Like, did you have terrible back-attack % on a Entropy?
i dont know what is wrong this week but most of the pug supports i ran into were lobotomized
no atk buff no shield only spam heal
Maybe you had low up-time off synergy?
and had shit like sub 60% brand
most braindead bard ive ever seen
p2 literally do zdps too
i mean, FF14 unofficially allows meter
wow fully endorsed dps meter, and I played it for years, there was negativity but also positivity assosiated with it, same as MVP system in Lost Ark.
and that game is generally cited as having a generally good community
even tho im a sorc with no sup on cd
theres still a lot of time on the timer
of course their moderation team aggressively bans toxicity associated with it
its bout to kill me
i told thr dude to just follow community guide and he talked shit to me instead
ill move out when theres enough time
what if a mech hapens and i need space to dodge 
But that means that poor small time company AGS would have to hire and train staff for this
you can't expect them
to afford
that.
At least the MVP screen appear after a clear, in wow I got kicked for having 9% less dps than the majority, it was not even 15 min into the raid.
And it's not even retail, it was vanilla classic.

i was on a journey to find community/static right after dealing with thay bard
people explicitly using meter to call people out is extremely rare in this game anyways
lmao 4 million gold to avoid him
and for the most part people are aware that simply being bottom dps doesnt mean there's something wrong, since someone has to be last
how this 1620 zerker only do 18mil dps in frog when i have 26% radiant 
it's when things are egregiously bad that people usually say something
I mean, some people will always be asshats, but you shouldn't deny a helpful program due to the minority.

buff zerkers man
If so, we should remove MVP system too so people aren't toxic between gates 
i would rather not raid than deal with brainded support
after all the gatekeeping, scrubs get rarely paired with people with hands, only difference is when u run into an account buyer that easily skips all gatekeeping metrics
i dont need gold
this minority impact the majority on a huge margin, this is where the negative side is.
specially for a game like lost ark who only have raids as end game content + vertical progression
i blame zheng for crashing and not coming on sup
im raiding to feel sense of pride and accomplishment
when you take event gems shitter for hakkan expecting him to do lantern since he's 2b behind everyone in dmg and he tells you he can't cause he's never done it 
meter usage or people who leech off those who use meter is arguably the majority now in lost ark's endgame
did u clear ivory tower hm yet
I mean, we both know how many people in Lost Ark has the forbidden 📘 Have you had many negative experiences? I can't say I have or seen it.
yeah yesterday 2 hr prog
how was it compared to nm
it was really easy everything the same lol
they can't speak openly about it so obviously they're would not be any problem
It's 100% like normal.
the moment assholes are free to speak is when chaos start
ah, even kayangel was a bit different between nm and hm
i mean, AGS doesnt fucking ban anyone
Just harder hits and more dps needed.
no shit, its exact same as nm, and ur 25 weapon full10s on the most broken class
pahlev gonna do ivory tower again
?

this ones exact copy
so even people who speak about it openly get off free
im 22 wep
yeah, hm and nm kaya are different, ivory is exactly the same in both modes

still, people dont really say anything unless there are severe issues
AGS don't really care ngl.
@turbid oriole thanks for the run earlier ur a lifesaver
wait why not 25

the only time you get banned for harassment is if you get mass reported
i an
i only wanna do hm (maybe?) and i have no static 
comon ur the f2p investor
they dont have manual review

its fine, ima wait for your artist to get to 1620 in a few months and then we prog again
@prime wind
my bard will get there eventually 
he aint gonna take u
he will take me instead
for the most part the community behaves itself relatively well with meter usage
no i take pahlev
I'm 5th in my static cause rest of them quit 

that looks like typical supportless mm
your team was afk or?
chuan's continued existence is proof that AGS doesn't care


Until you get that one hell player with the best gear to you you suck


shoulda joined the sona static while u were in fhanum server chuan
holy chuan based


rarely seen toxic hell player
In my server, more and more payers with 25 Akkan weapon lately 
most of them clear raids regardless


yeah
25 weapon is only going to be more common

from people who didnt swipe for it
and if you dont make new char 25 is pretty affordable

it's still a stupid investment for the average player but the average player isn't rational

also people get lucky
yeah everyone has one lucky char or two
i mean its like 9m gold lol
That's why you need to enforce it with GM's over just denying a program outright, like someone said FFX has it and that community is pretty good.
Anyways, I'd say the % of people that would actually be toxic with meter is almost no one more than there already is, toxic people will find plenty of stuff to be toxic about.
thats like 3-4k usd
I just want to know my uptime.
wrekk has to buy shards
@supple parrot 's sugar baby is 3k usd per month



average 
he skipped chaos for like a year no?
i mean i was about average
it's only sus if people have multiple 25s
pitying 21 really fucked me
exaggeration obv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_4mizi8NuY @nova garden no kap i feel like this game is a scam
Enjoy this anime trailer – which is essentially a flashback to S-Game's first game, 2008's Rainblood, and also set just before the events of Phantom Blade Zero – along with a bonus bit of Phantom Blade Zero's third-person action-RPG gameplay footage at the end.
#IGN #Gaming
looks like a scam
literally 20 seconds of "gameplay"
true
You don't get 25 unless you have God-tier luck, 💳 or 🚌 
hope they keep it private company
do u even play mihoyo games
fk mihoyo
once it goes public it goes to shit

theres quite a few 25s in nae ppl just hone weapon after honing to 1620
mihoyo games have alot of polish
I have to put this into my secret folder

cause they waiting for adv honing anyway
KUR!
so nothing else to use the gold on
youll see a lot of ppl at like 1622.5 or whatever it is
yeah since im literally 1 char enjoyer i have nothing to spend on
that wouldnt even be enuf in the usa
but wep
and i dont have one
wiat its not like you gonna bang them week in week out
how many use you planning to

My toe is still purple and kinda hurts. All I did was hit it against something. 

deserved
wtf
thts @sand marsh 's job
it's 4m gold on average from 20-25
established players can easily make 4m gold in 6 month's time
4m gold also assumes you are buying everything except shards

if you dont hone armor much or spend much on alts, you can farm at least 1/3 of the cost
that sounds abt right
if you get shafted by pity, sure it's rough

making at least 150k gold a week is usual for veteran players
that's 600k a month
Veteran 

100-150k sounds about right
Sure, but not spending anything in half a year and just save,
no elixirs? no nothing?
if you're not buying elixir crafts
That's a pretty wild account 
you're spending at most 50k a week on the cutting/catalysts
To be that established 6 months ago.
I'm saving this, thank you

also in the first 2 weeks or so, selling your failed elixirs made much of your gold back
i mean, people having 6 1580 rosters around august wasn't that unheard of
or at least 3 1580s and 3 that were close behind

outfitting your 1580 alts with gems is only like a 100k gold endeavor

letting you mail accessories within your roster also cut down on gearing costs
then im chilling
it's surprisingly easy to accrute millions of gold over a few months if you arent constantly honing alts
and arent making other significant investments like level 10 gems on your characters
yeah for 1 char main its so easy to hone it
Don't you need to pay pheons?
not within your roster
just eats a trade count
Sure, but the cost from 1580 > 1620 Is pretty wild, you're not going to be able to grow that roster for 6 months while saving up 4mil to just cover average hits on to 25 unless you're ultra-lucky on honing or 💳 🚌 or something else.
i mean im f2p my se made in november now full 10 1620 22 wep
through miracle of god

you just have to believe
ppl wont be spending their gold unless they really want to do thaemine hm week 1 but if they are they will likely hone weapon first
I mean, you're not f2p tho, but ok.
you just need to be average
and religiously do your dailies and weeklies
tldr
likely bus a bit but people at that level of investment do that
Even then, you won't hit 1620 and then 25 wep on top of that while saving 4mil gold in 6 months time while growing your roster 
@sand marsh u got any voldis nm or akkan hm on nae?
you dont grow your roster
by thaemine jesus willing i will be 25 wep
that is the entire point
reckon its possible to prog thae nm in 1 hour?
So you keep 5x chars at 1580, and push one char to 1620 > 25 wep?
raising your alts above 1580 for the purpose of gold making is inefficient anyways
you'd only do it if you like those alts and want to do more content on them
actually thats the way lol
plus those ppl are already 1600+ on those alts anyway
5 1600 1 main
that's how i run things
1 1635, 1 1600, 3 soon to be 1600s
and breaker to 1580/1600 when its out


I said 1580
honing 5 to 1600 cost quite a bit.
2 more weeks and my last 2 characters are done with akkan gear gathering 
1600 is a lot cheaper now than fall of last year
now with event books, cheaper materials
lets go
Don't you bus also tho?
also aero and souleater expresses basically gave 2 heavily discounted 1580s
i dont bus
i code chuan


wat?

?? we raiding or what
Anyways, It's only going to be a tiny tiny tiny % of the playerbase that f2p got 25 wep in a legit way, and not a meme herp derp I'm f2p way
but ye, over time more and more will get it. 
I want that glow too
Wardancer glow so big.

Shoreee.
6 taps is f2p

wdym jail
nm is a joke
impossible
to get jailed
its not gonna happen
@prime wind i see u typing
my voldis run earlier today the glaivier died every gate we still cleared
justin only has 1 char?
Game is trolling me, shortly after getting 1600 on my GS alt, she gets 3x Materials chests from bonus drop 
just only bus with main? problem solved
my last voldis i save for degen when he gets the weekend off
fuck @robust birch help the real chuan

lets go hm brel
@sand marsh ok lets do hm brel
on nae
we got rosey
the legendary afker
fuck u
rat
LOl
brel bus is a fucking pain in the ass
lmfaoo
f u
scalp last year "lol i dont bus, i just help ppl, bus is cringe"
scalp now "lol i dont do hm ne more i just bus nm"
fuck off

lmfaooo
mostly bussing itself is a pain in the ass if you have to do it multiple times on multiple characters
you'd only do it if you have time and arent swiping gold heavily
chuan getting betrayed nae
lets do hm brel?
u dont bus right
there's sort of nothing to do now in the game anyways
everyone is 1630+ slowly honing to 1640+

40 set elixirs, just slowly optimizing all damage lines

scalp ur guild is doing hm akkan
clarification, people i play with
everyone is the name of his whale guild

it's a nice chill period where everyone is off playing palworld and other games
or doing hell mode

couple people working on esthers
Toxic, only playing with whales, never helping the underdogs 
stfu 2 digit andy
Jesus christ.
chuan would do 1-6 if he could


i do that, it's just with cn players during their brel prog where i help shotcall as the 9th man

i mean i did do 1-6 everyweek from release til nerf
on every char
i think they farmed out almost all of the shop stones
see
so they saved like 2/3

Still ultra-whales.
You can't call anyone with esther not a ultra-whale.
not with that name
its just f2p
0 special equipment
not a bot looking name or stronghold
lv8 stronghold
just new player
you get so far so easy with express + path
new player or gold farmer maybe

theres no future
specially if you are supp
i mean its literally rosey 
Nice RELIC stone

yh rosey is a new player 
he just knows friends who have 40 esther stones for him and he mowed their lawns for 2 years straight


oh i got enuf leap for another tap
ez hone incoming
rly? wouldnt ppl rather join 1-4
so they dont ahve to find another lobby
for 4

idk ppl are losers and do 4 seperatly
@sand marshwtf no bus?
trash ass game
u crazy
hes ditching u for 3 am raid with chuan cause he got walked over
nah i rather bus
1-3 = you can have lower standards





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