gratz, i didn't even know this exist, i haven't even seen the 50k one yet
#lost-ark-discussions
tulip charm
quartz turret
dull cairn
50k chest once in 6cds every day since september
uncut stratus
I got 100k chest like a day after I got 1620
keen copper
quartz turret
i got 3 20k this week
torn ether
whales win
uncut stratus
Which was the day voldis released
quartz turret
feelsgoodman my pc didnt explode
torn ether
i only get 1 20k
tulip charm
@quartz turret @supple parrot frog?
quartz turret
<@532479054109212702> <@204004021244133376> frog?
dull cairn
The ember nerf was smilegate spitting in the players face. And most people ignored it
tulip charm
we need to get a 4th guy from here with a supp and multiple frogs so we can do all the runs
tulip charm
most people naw don't frog this hour its all oce players lol
tulip charm
no, on reset
quartz turret
tulip charm
what dl is that
quartz turret
lost ark
tulip charm
rip, no frog today then
howed u get that download anyways lol, i don't remb being a patch/update
quartz turret
i finished my new pc
supple parrot
tulip charm
<:FeelsGladMan:932101378548068383> i finished my new pc
@supple parrot omg...
congratz
supple parrot
Rosey not gonna die at 30x next week!
quartz turret
lean pewter
yes, congrats chuan on roseys finished pc
quartz turret
i havnt died in 30x in a while
supple parrot
Why r u downloading lost ark
quartz turret
ive adapted to 10 fps
supple parrot
At 2 am tho
tulip charm
i am still convinced its not a pc/hardware/video card issue its prob just wifi conn speed, like i have shty connection, but 3080 card
supple parrot
i am still convinced its not a pc/hardware/video card issue its prob just wifi c...
Ur on a laptop
quartz turret
gotta dl genshin and honkai too
quartz turret
wym how i got other stuff to do too
tulip charm
you were one of the last few players ive heard that had major fps issues at 35bar akkan at the tower when all the minions flood in
i am wondering if your new machine will solve this
quartz turret
i still gotta install stuffs
supple parrot
It doesn’t even matter if ur fps drop. Literally just move to the back
Even at 2 frames per second
This is not an issue
tulip charm
Even at 2 frames per second
i heard some players the moment they get to tower their char becomes unresponsive and just stops moving, like all the minions lags them out, this was week 1, i know they did something to fix this
i don't have this issue
quartz turret
put them next to each other
tulip charm
don't forget to get all the updated drivers and cap your fps in nivida for lost ark
buoyant wagon
quartz turret
i hope i got all my drivers
tulip charm
now your gonna have genshin/honkai/lost ark all open at the same time, and nothing will lag
until you fry your graphics card
quartz turret
supple parrot
<:mokokoFamily:865059158456795166> put them next to each other
Shoulda just gotten a pre build
quartz turret
nah
tulip charm
Shoulda just gotten a pre build
some people still like to build it themselves, but you barely even save $, i think its better to buy premade and pay a littlebit extra, since you get a waranty
quartz turret
i could reuse some of my parts
tulip charm
you can tell some differences right away, i remb on my old machine i had a bifrost at chaos gate, i teleport to the bifrost, and the chaos gate loads in like 15seconds later lol
now it loads in instantly
quartz turret
wym f2p alts are 1620
tulip charm
if its a char you want to eventually push later down the line, its better if you park it at 1580, since all unas/chaos will drop radiants and you just let it sit there forever
cedar zealot
Could have had so many star rail pulls atm
tulip charm
but yeh, otherwise 1540-1560
cedar zealot
supple parrot
U can get to 1620 via bound only soon
tulip charm
hmmm....if i hit a hone now i can't even afford to fill up the item, no silver left
i need embers to come through right now
quartz turret
damn i have everything on queue
delicate sandal
@sand marshcant believe ur still playing and wont bus
tulip charm
also the event shop gives dogsht silver, the last one gave way more
tulip charm
there is this, but its really really far away, i only got 40 sea bounties
supple parrot
just to screw the f2pers
F2p like can’t run out of silver
Cuz I’m bottle neck by leaps
faint grove
whats the next chaos ilvl gonna be
quartz turret
quartz turret
there isnt one
faint grove
koreas still at 1610?
faint grove
theres no 1620?
wintry depot
No
faint grove
aight ty
dull cairn
can't wait for t4...
faint grove
yup
dull cairn
they only dig their graves deeper with elixirs
west fern
is the game worth starting rn? ( i used to play actively during launch but i remember that the whole bots nd gold rates thing being a big issue back then )
faint grove
is the game worth starting rn? ( i used to play actively during launch but i rem...
if you're starting as a friend group of 4 or so then yes, if not then no
dull cairn
at least you could carry ilvl over to t4, but you can't transfer elixirs or this theimine transcendence stuff
faint grove
dont think t4 will ever happen
torn ether
is the game worth starting rn? ( i used to play actively during launch but i rem...
there is an event going on rn but it'll expire in 8 days
you'll et your azz to endgame realquick
cedar zealot
they only dig their graves deeper with elixirs
I don't like the system either
torn ether
at least you could carry ilvl over to t4, but you can't transfer elixirs or this...
ppl spend shit ton of money on those stuff they wont remove it
cedar zealot
The way it's designed to be a gold sink
wind dagger
11:11
dull cairn
is the game worth starting rn? ( i used to play actively during launch but i rem...
no, but if you start right now make 6 characters at once. Get honing buffs on the main char and use mokoko express passes to level
faint grove
systems where you can have a net gain of nothing after spending is a bad system
at least in honing you slowly aquire pity
buoyant wagon
They’re more likely to soft reset honing
keen copper
no, but if you start right now make 6 characters at once. Get honing buffs on th...
terrible advice 
golden skiff
is the game worth starting rn? ( i used to play actively during launch but i rem...
less bots, less gold required for main stuff like grudge engraving for example but also less players with most of them being brainless p2w
keen copper
suggesting 6 chars to a new player
cedar zealot
But at the same time you are expected to get your quality up/get super expensive gems/ overhone
Only to be able to pug the content (voldis hm)
buoyant wagon
There’s a really easy fix to time gated content
dull cairn
suggesting 6 chars to a new player
That's how you play lost ark. He better get used to it and get rewards early
buoyant wagon
Remove the time gates
supple parrot
That's how you play lost ark. He better get used to it and get rewards early
No it’s not
keen copper
That's how you play lost ark. He better get used to it and get rewards early
i barely play 4 chars you dont need to play 6 chars
if u actually believe that, ur stupid
dull cairn
No it’s not <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
ever heard of silver?
buoyant wagon
You never needed to play 6 characters
keen copper
yeah?
surreal barn
thats just the reality
No its not. Some f2p players are bussing or made profit off market
dull cairn
i barely play 4 chars <:shruge:1100304847183560726> you dont *need* to play 6 ch...
Silver my dude
uneven mortar
i barely play 4 chars <:shruge:1100304847183560726> you dont *need* to play 6 ch...
yeah i play 5 too
keen copper
Silver my dude
yeah bro?
upper eagle
Remove the time gates
Arcanum tix 
faint grove
No its not. Some f2p players are bussing or made profit off market
true forgot you can kill the game for gold to hone more chars
buoyant wagon
Silver is more likely to be a problem with multiple characters
supple parrot
ever heard of silver?
U clearly don’t play the game
dull cairn
You don't get 60mil from 1 char
buoyant wagon
Arcanum tix <:Kapp:829013566111744040>
Pls no
cedar zealot
They’re more likely to soft reset honing
I'm fine with a soft reset but every soft reset in a tier becomes increasingly less impactful, brel soft reset felt nice cause your ilvls were going up fast and it was quite cheap, with akkan, you can get to 1600 easily then it starts getting obscenely expensive compared to how much you're making
supple parrot
I got 120mil silver
How many 1620 u got
quartz turret
whales man
upper eagle
Seren i see you escaped gbf
supple parrot
Yes so u didn’t hone. 120 mil silver is irrelevant
upper eagle
uneven mortar
look at zheng plays 18 char 18 1620 0 silver
buoyant wagon
I'm fine with a soft reset but every soft reset in a tier becomes increasingly l...
They just need to squish the costs
Eventually
And cut the time gates
tulip charm
look at zheng plays 18 char 18 1620 0 silver
i am not cutedog, ive never had that many char
buoyant wagon
Those are more likely solutions than T4
supple parrot
I don't even play for half a year
Lemme guess. U play 6 chars. Not even at a high ilvl. Then u burnt out and quit
faint grove
i played 6 chars for a long time
supple parrot
faint grove
then eventually dropped to 5 chars and was much happier
buoyant wagon
I was a one character enjoyer until summer 2023
uneven mortar
im feeling smth when playing se you know
physically, mentally, spiritually, financially
tulip charm
I was a one character enjoyer until summer 2023
this is prob the best way to play
high fog
painge
high fog
but it is done
buoyant wagon
And now I’m at 5 characters
dull cairn
Yes so u didn’t hone. 120 mil silver is irrelevant
I got 30 chars, most 1520, 8 1560, 2 1580, 1610
buoyant wagon
Paradoxically
faint grove
problem is that any content except the newest is so god damn boring yet you gotta keep doing it for gold
cedar zealot
But I also rmt to make it more enjoyable
If everyone could RMT, lost ark would be the best mmo on the market
tulip charm
im feeling smth when playing se you know
class is not balanced lol
it dosn't make any sense
torn ether
this is prob the best way to play
gets boring tho
cedar zealot
99% issues in the game can be fixed with RMT
surreal barn
true forgot you can kill the game for gold to hone more chars
Bussing exists since release of game and it aint dead. The raid design itself destroyed the games new players cant join lobbies its too much effort to teach one player
cedar zealot
keen copper
30 chars 
dull cairn
On my main roster
high fog
needa get my db to 1610 now
faint grove
Bussing exists since release of game and it aint dead. The raid design itself de...
and new players dont make learning lobbies because they just buy busses instead.
golden skiff
If everyone could RMT, lost ark would be the best mmo on the market
what a dogshit take let me block you
high fog
y i so far behind now
uneven mortar
class is not balanced lol
it dosn't make any sense
thats hwy im not pushing my slayer as hard
queen grail
@silver hollow Hmm, 1620 Scrapper - 1600 GL 4x3 (Stab-status is offline like 80% of the fight 
)
uneven mortar
new chat is always best
wind dagger
<:Fishinge:939709472543240203>
uneven mortar
char
tulip charm
send silver
queen grail
@silver hollow
high fog
send me silver
high fog
u have extra
supple parrot
I got 30 chars, most 1520, 8 1560, 2 1580, 1610
Ya so u were playing 30 chars at a low ilvl and burnt out and quit
uneven mortar
supple parrot
uneven mortar
high fog
how am i supposed to tap my db to 1610
faint grove
how does he only have 140m silver or whatever if he plays 30 chars
high fog
with 60k silver
buoyant wagon
Remove bussing and there wouldn’t be learning parties either
surreal barn
and new players dont make learning lobbies because they just buy busses instead.
If they really wanna learn they do learning parties. I see some lobbies here and there
buoyant wagon
Because those people buying busses aren’t intending to learn anyways
dull cairn
Ya so u were playing 30 chars at a low ilvl and burnt out and quit
yes, that's why I had silver you low brain
buoyant wagon
They’d rather be carried
cedar zealot
with 60k silver
Buy silver, 1 mil gold = 100mil silver
cedar zealot
You can make 1mil gold in 2 weeks
wintry depot
You cant even have 30 chars on same roster
high fog
my roster behind the other folks
dull cairn
A new player won't have silver from one character
wintry depot
Nice lie
high fog
my gems bad
uneven mortar
i was so rich just 2 weeks ago
high fog
wat can do
supple parrot
yes, that's why I had silver you low brain
Is 120 mil silver supposed to be a lot?
uneven mortar
wintry depot
Is 120 mil silver supposed to be a lot? <:OMEGALUL:852980789452996678>
Its not
uneven mortar
life is hard when you f2p man
high fog
indeed
fresh flint
30 characters. What the fuck is that?
high fog
life do be hard as a f2p man
supple parrot
queen grail
buoyant wagon
One character is enough for silver
faint grove
yes, that's why I had silver you low brain
i only have 15 chars and i have 200m silver 
buoyant wagon
I had one character effectively for a year and a half
stark thicket
<:mokokoStare:1119324606021521640>
why is the fish staring back at me wtf
buoyant wagon
I only had to buy silver with gold when I cut 1400 rocks for 9/7
faint grove
never did lopang
wintry depot
Its not him that posted 60 mil silver
faint grove
yet i have almost double ur silver with ur 30 chars, which means you're not even playing them
buoyant wagon
Even honing at a far faster pace than the average player I had enough silver
keen copper
Its not him that posted 60 mil silver
bro cant even track the people responding 
tulip charm
<:Cryge:862987968074743820>
i had this like 2 weeks ago, all gone
stark thicket
<:mokokoStare:1119324606021521640>
somethings wrong with this fish, just stares back at me, speechless and weird looking.
cedar zealot
yet i have almost double ur silver with ur 30 chars, which means you're not even...
Tbf he hasn't played in 6 months
tulip charm
rolling bracelets is stupidly expensive
faint grove
oh makes sense
buoyant wagon
Bracelets are the biggest waste of silver
faint grove
he got burnt playing his 30 chars
wintry depot
bro cant even track the people responding <a:keke:719669066868195388>
Calling people lil brain when hes the dumbest
surreal barn
wat can do
I dont know if all the events are running but use event+path of souleater and youll be 1580 really fast
buoyant wagon
Over 200k per bracelet
wintry depot
high fog
i kno yall be flexing ur silver
dull cairn
bro cant even track the people responding <a:keke:719669066868195388>
go play you dogshit game losers
supple parrot
You posted 60 mil thinking it was anything
I have multiple 1620s have never ran out of silver. When did I say 60 mil silver was anything.
keen copper
go play you dogshit game losers
cry more lil bro
keen copper
keep complaining about 1560
uneven mortar
wait
keen copper
dogshit
faint grove
multiple 1620s?
uneven mortar
keen copper
tulip charm
this is prob the best item to swipe for i think in terms of efficiency
uneven mortar
well cant go voldis tomorrow then
lean pewter
yes wrekk, this means fuck
cedar zealot
multiple 1620s? <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
Through bounds only
dull cairn
Imagine getting so fucked by smilegate you accept this braindead gameplay loop
buoyant wagon
Honor shards are the only thing worth buying in the shop
high fog
I dont know if all the events are running but use event+path of souleater and y...
but how can i get to 1580 from my level
dull cairn
To hone several times to 1620
supple parrot
Imagine being so mad on a discord cuz everyone is shitting on you for ur single digit iq
surreal barn
but how can i get to 1580 from my level
You should have powerpass for free no?
buoyant wagon
You’re implying we don’t think the gameplay loop could be better
cedar zealot
To hone several times to 1620
Addictions do be like that
lean pewter
why are you so mad over other people enjoying something 
keen copper
To hone several times to 1620
where did i hone several times to 1620 
think i only honed once
faint grove
hes mad cuz he hates his own life and needs to try to make other people miserable too
surreal barn
Imagine getting so fucked by smilegate you accept this braindead gameplay loop
Every mmo has gameplay loop
high fog
but dont have the silver and gold to hone to 1630 for thaemine
wind dagger
do your cubes
buoyant wagon
Gacha monetization is shit, kmmo monetization is shit, doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy other parts of the game
dull cairn
Imagine being so mad on a discord cuz everyone is shitting on you for ur single ...
You honed to 1620 twice, you have brain damage
keen copper
buoyant wagon
True, chuan has brain damage
lean pewter
he was playing 30 characters, probably should look for a job 
buoyant wagon
But for other reasons
dull cairn
imagine
keen copper
first true thing this dude has said all night
cedar zealot
faint grove
hes a zerk main he had brain damage at char creation 
supple parrot
You honed to 1620 twice, you have brain damage
? What kind of statement is that. 1620 is easy when u aren’t playing 30 chars
Why r u so mad lil bro
cedar zealot
dull cairn
Smilegate convinced you morons to run the same cd legion raids every week
keen copper
like we get it, ur mad your main couldnt get to 1620 since u play 30 chars, go somewhere else
high fog
@urban obsidian wanna fund my 5th char to 1620
dull cairn
Just to keepbup
high fog
so i can play db in voldis hard
uneven mortar
holy shit my static one tapping shit and mines take forever to hit
lean pewter
how did you end up here, I thought you'd be on reddit tho
golden skiff
hes a zerk main he had brain damage at char creation <:mokokoDerp:86505915818953...
says the other berz main KEK
dull cairn
20iq people
high fog
eyo
frail shard
i re-awake to chuan debates with eu person
high fog
the esteemed honorable cheesewheel never claimed to not have brain damage at character creation
frail shard
best time of my life
dull cairn
Stop wasting you life's for a low quality pay2win mmo
supple parrot
cedar zealot
We caught up with KR mostly, honing buffs will be rare and that will be compensated with slower content release, if you were hoping for a honing buff, there are none in sight atm, no point arguing over here imo @dull cairn
faint grove
theres a 1620 pass in the sights
lean pewter
Stop wasting you life's for a low quality pay2win mmo
why are you so concerned about what others enjoy and do with their free time, get a job lil bro
high fog
because you can skip the animation
tulip charm
Just to keepbup
you might be in the wrong discord, i think you need to watch more asmongold 40x doomer vids, that sounds more like your cup of tea
high fog
thats a huge honing buff
cedar zealot
I meant global honing buffs, didn't include express events
queen grail
Smilegate convinced you morons to run the same cd legion raids every week
I mean, you play because you're having fun, If you're not, there's about 2mil+ games on the market, pick and choose.
cedar zealot
because you can skip the animation
high fog
bro tappin be time consuming man
dull cairn
sheesh I guess you play the game for 2 years already, you are beyond help
faint grove
wish there was an autohone feature, tapping is exhausting on new chars
high fog
think about it this way every 20 minutes you save
torn ether
Stop wasting you life's for a low quality pay2win mmo
stop wasting your life in a dc server of a game you dont even like bozo
uneven mortar
i cant imagine how hard i will get fucked if i wasnt an f2p investor
jesus man what is this honing luck
high fog
could be 20 minutes spent selling a g4 brel bus for 9k gold
frail shard
sheesh I guess you play the game for 2 years already, you are beyond help
fuck you think you are judging us by how long we've been play
fam yappin hard eh
uneven mortar
thank god i was born with businessman mindset
wind dagger
wish there was an autohone feature, tapping is exhausting on new chars
Doesn't KR have such thing
faint grove
no idea
supple parrot
Dude haven’t played for half an year but still come to the games discord just to get shit on
buoyant wagon
Korea lets you skip the honing animation
dull cairn
stop wasting your life in a dc server of a game you dont even like bozo
You run chaos dungeons every day, your opinion means nothing to me
U are stopid
empty sleet
peace
lean pewter
Doesn't KR have such thing
they announced it on loa on, idk if they have it yet
empty sleet
UwU
torn ether
You run chaos dungeons every day, your opinion means nothing to me
you think i do
empty sleet
torn ether
even if i do at least im doing sth i like
wind dagger
they announced it on loa on, idk if they have it yet
honing until all resources are gone, that's how I like it, not like tapping every % until pity
torn ether
you dont even like this game why are you here
golden skiff
chaos dungeons everyday are probably the smartest thing to do tbh
torn ether
He likes getting shit on
oh humilliation fetish type of thing
dull cairn
you dont even like this game why are you here
was asking for honing buffs and people became toxic
lean pewter
thank you lord jesus
you're welcome
dull cairn
@mods
keen copper
nah, ur just stupid
wind dagger
thank you lord jesus
why are you lucky
keen copper
supple parrot
oh humilliation fetish type of thing
Typical cuck behavior
torn ether
was asking for honing buffs and people became toxic
what did you asked tho
wind dagger
high fog
real talk tho, now that i spent 400k pushing from 1614 to 1620
cedar zealot
thank you lord jesus
Nobody likes seeing peasant achievements , go hone wep to 25
torn ether
ppl in here are really chill
high fog
how do i make my money back
frail shard
ppl in here are really chill
can mod pin this
uneven mortar
how do i make my money back
buy low sell high
torn ether
if you dont say anything dumb they wont be toxic
lean pewter
?misinfo
cedar lotusBOT
dull cairn
IMAGINE CALLING SOMEONE CUCK WHEN YOU PLAY LOST ARC GETTING ADDSS FUCKED BY SMILEGATE FOR 2 YEARS
high fog
so buy royal crystal low and sell royal crystal for gold when exchange rate is high?
cedar zealot
how do i make my money back
Bus voldis hm
frail shard
yo lay down the caps
keen copper
supple parrot
Holy shit
surreal barn
I think you can get all brel pieces in the first week and then slowly work your way up. Your goal should be 1580 for now to do kayangel and akkan nm if you can get into lobbies
frail shard
lean pewter
IMAGINE
uneven mortar
goddamn reading this chat i fkn forgot what im abt to do
frail shard
goddamn reading this chat i fkn forgot what im abt to do
another session of massage
golden skiff
if you dont say anything dumb they wont be toxic
false...full of kids with nothin to do trolling around in groups
uneven mortar
i feel like im forgetting smth
supple parrot
@gleaming pendant Get this clown outta here, dudes bout to pop a blood vessel
cedar zealot
i feel like im forgetting smth
25 wep
uneven mortar
how am i gonna 25 wep with no gold or silver
wind dagger
wrekk old man
uneven mortar
cedar zealot
how am i gonna 25 wep with no gold or silver
Invest
lean pewter
how am i gonna 25 wep with no gold or silver
uneven mortar
theres nothing to invest in
high fog
how am i gonna 25 wep with no gold or silver
buy low sell high
lean pewter
just don't buy fifa packs for a week wrekk
cedar zealot
theres nothing to invest in
Invest into RC
dull cairn
Then why r u here with ur humiliation fetish bro. U can leave any time
go play lost ARC loser
high fog
buy high sell low
torn ether
Imagine getting so fucked by smilegate you accept this braindead gameplay loop
is that how you ask ppls opinion about honing buffs lil bro
supple parrot
go play lost ARC loser
wind dagger
tulip charm
IMAGINE CALLING SOMEONE CUCK WHEN YOU PLAY LOST ARC GETTING ADDSS FUCKED BY SMIL...
wait, hold up, so, you quit, then you come back asking people to tell you if you should like/play a game or not, then you went full doomer calling everything ugly and sht, great bra, so, why are you still here
holy sht is this what eu players are like????
frail shard
yeah
torn ether
- didnt you literally say you had 30 chars
frail shard
Bubu is exception
uneven mortar
i stopped buying packs in fifa
frail shard
i love Bubu
uneven mortar
my team is done
dull cairn
wait, hold up, so, you quit, then you come back asking people to tell you if you...
voldyk is ugly
cedar zealot
holy sht is this what eu players are like????
Yes, just look at bubu and arna
wind dagger
torn ether
holy sht is this what eu players are like????
bro?
wind dagger
wintry depot
Hey, we arent dumb like him
supple parrot
lean pewter
cedar zealot
tulip charm
ive seen these type of players before, it was when asmongold and some other streamers made like 500x lost ark is dead vids to farm views, and all the tool's went full doomer, how come his still around 1 year later here
frail shard
Hey, we arent dumb like him
lean pewter
Hey, we arent dumb like him
speak for yourself
tulip charm
most of them quit/left ages ago, this is like a relic
buoyant wagon
I too hate getting ads after playing lost ark for 2 years
Thankfully ads is a livable disease these days
With the invention of adblockers
faint grove
ads? havn't seen any ads in a decade
frail shard
youre not chatting there
dull cairn
ive seen these type of players before, it was when asmongold and some other stre...
It is dead tho
cedar zealot
ive seen these type of players before, it was when asmongold and some other stre...
He tryna relapse but can't cause honing is still dpgshit, class balance is worse than it was before, and so is gatekeeping, so now he mad and he gotta release some steam
dull cairn
player count is at 40k or something
supple parrot
Why ru here tho
cedar zealot
player count is at 40k or something
Less if you count bots
buoyant wagon
Everything is stronger than before
supple parrot
faint grove
40k is quite healthy actually
lean pewter
that's still top 10 if not top 5 western mmo player count 
cedar zealot
Class balance worse than before
Class balance before slayer and se was better than it is now imo, you can disagree and that's fine
frail shard
game's not dead if gaben still willing to list the game in top 25
supple parrot
Class balance before slayer and se was better than it is now imo, you can disagr...
Slayer was when they started to release op ass classes
buoyant wagon
Vast majority of the older classes are performing fine, some of them are even better than the newer classes
cedar zealot
Slayer was when they started to release op ass classes <:KEKW:834726120606924850...
It's ok, I'll pretend game balance better now and will be much better when breaker releases
faint grove
Slayer was when they started to release op ass classes <:KEKW:834726120606924850...
they've always been doing it in korea, only diff is that by the time we got the classes they were nerfed to the ground
cedar zealot
lean pewter
Class balance before slayer and se was better than it is now imo, you can disagr...
it was, but they are hopefully working now on bringing other classes up to speed
buoyant wagon
Game balance looks a lot worse when you realize that people with hands are the ones posting ridiculous parses
cedar zealot
balancing the financial statment
supple parrot
they've always been doing it in korea, only diff is that by the time we got the ...
Well the diff is reaper was op but got hit by 30% nerf. Slayer and se is op. But didn’t get nerf. Punisher slap in the wrist and then a buff. Se got a stagger buff
buoyant wagon
Your average surge player is fucking useless
Same with NE souleater
Same with hunger reaper
cedar zealot
Well the diff is reaper was op but got hit by 30% nerf. Slayer and se is op. But...
Old smilegate didn't care about nerfing new op classes (reaper on launch)
delicate sandal
So every class
supple parrot
Buff zerker
buoyant wagon
It’s the same pattern for every game with a new character
cedar zealot
Buff zerker <:shruge:1100304847183560726>
lean pewter
delete zerker
buoyant wagon
If they aren’t at the very least strong
supple parrot
Zerker should be on same level as slayer
buoyant wagon
Nobody wants to play them
torn ether
buff reflux sorc
supple parrot
faint grove
zerk is balanced, not broken nor weak
uneven mortar
Zerker should be on same level as slayer
alright now time to go to sleep old man
delusion too strong rn
lean pewter
chuans leaking again
supple parrot
You see it in mobas
Not in real mobs like dota2 where u don’t have to buy the heroes
uneven mortar
its gonna be another year before they touch zerker
supple parrot
Maybe in trash can mobas where it’s p2w sure
faint grove
prolly
buoyant wagon
Not in real mobs like dota2 where u don’t have to buy the heroes <:Weirdga:90521...
New heroes are hilariously broken most of the time in dota
You must have a short memory
faint grove
at least they dont churn out 8 new heroes a year like league
supple parrot
New heroes are hilariously broken most of the time in dota
Not rly. And they are not available in captain mode until a patch after
uneven mortar
your kpi is tied to your work, what makes you think new hero wont be batshit op
lime lagoon
now that teaming on prime island is the way to do it. where can i find parties?
i mean 3/3 i got ganked by parties of 3+
buoyant wagon
Sure they aren’t in CM
buoyant wagon
But 99% of games aren’t in CM
tulip charm
He tryna relapse but can't cause honing is still dpgshit, class balance is worse...
makes sense
buoyant wagon
Bruh 4/5 of the last released heroes
tulip charm
40k is quite healthy actually
i think its less
buoyant wagon
Were disgustingly overpowered
supple parrot
Sure they aren’t in CM
Maybe they are op in ur trash tier mm. But not op in immortal top 200 games. And they are only op in low elo games cuz it’s Smurfs playing them
buoyant wagon
????
tulip charm
prob like 20-30k right now, once palworld people get bored it goes back to like 50-60k
faint grove
prob like 20-30k right now, once palworld people get bored it goes back to like ...
i mean gotta factor in bots i guess but it is 40k
uneven mortar
most palworld people play lost ark in conjunction
buoyant wagon
Muerta was strong across the board also
uneven mortar
its not mutually exclusive, once you finish raid you go to palworld
buoyant wagon
Dawnbreaker was immediately meta also
uneven mortar
once everyone online you do raid on lost ark
thats how it works on all the communities im in
supple parrot
Every new hero release the avg win rate is not even over 55%
Sometimes it’s below 50
Don’t look at pick rate. Look at win%
Obv pick rate is high
Cuz it’s new
wind dagger
supple parrot
faint grove
if something released at 55% it'd be beyond broken
buoyant wagon
How early into the release are you even looking
faint grove
if anything released even at 50% it'd be hella broken
buoyant wagon
1-2 weeks? Not enough people used to it
supple parrot
Like a month in. U can pull up the data and prove me wrong
wind dagger
wdym sad
uneven mortar
looks like a blip
wind dagger
supple parrot
Marci is the biggest counterargument to your point
That is 1 hero
buoyant wagon
One of the newest
supple parrot
In past 5 years
buoyant wagon
And the most broken
uneven mortar
isnt dota ded
supple parrot
Go thru the past 10 heroes
supple parrot
Most of them
uneven mortar
last TI the prize pool was pathaytayc
frail shard
and muerta
uneven mortar
i dont know how they went from 20m prize pool to 2m
frail shard
all dota heroes are broken, thats how gaben balance it
frail shard
Bruh hoodwink was trash
lol what
supple parrot
Ain’t no way
frail shard
im immortal
buoyant wagon
Dota only had 12 new heroes release
lean pewter
im immortal
hi immortal
buoyant wagon
That wasn’t originally Dota 1
supple parrot
Unranked immortal is complete trash
faint grove
my rank is that i last logged in quite a while ago 
frail shard
i agree and not agree to some of your argument, they still make primal beast broken even today
buoyant wagon
Starting from void spirit was when new heroes noticeably were extremely strong
And often dominant across all brackets
frail shard
also muerta
uneven mortar
i remember back in uni we were getting destroyed by intermediate bots
frail shard
muerta and hoodwink have this easy build where it shot a ton of crit damage
with just a button
uneven mortar
theres that guy that cut trees right
supple parrot
Defin not op
frail shard
ye nature prophet
Goodnight @frail shard
uneven mortar
supple parrot
That’s more impressive
stark thicket
uneven mortar
there was 5 of us playing
supple parrot
Than u missing dd on old brel g4
stark thicket
How u lose against bots
same way people lose against raid boss
uneven mortar
i didnt miss
stark thicket
frail shard
<:Bedgers:909597459855065158> Goodnight <@232708350729519114>
goodnight joshy sleep well
supple parrot
same way people lose against raid boss
I mean the bots in dota2 are pretty stupid
clever notch
hii do u guys know wut u hab 2 do with this? (btw im new..)
supple parrot
uneven mortar
they are pretty good at teamfight
uneven mortar
to be fair we dont know what item to buy
we keep asking this oen dude what to buy next
supple parrot
they are pretty good at teamfight
Cept u can just dominate them in lane and kill then over and over
uneven mortar
and where the item was
supple parrot
Does the game have ingame guides where it tells u what to buy
frail shard
I mean the bots in dota2 are pretty stupid
yeh its actually real human that doing their intent to smurfing
supple parrot
uneven mortar
you buy item from multiple shop right
frail shard
some dota streamers got ban for smurfing
uneven mortar
and have to combine them to make the item
tulip charm
hii do u guys know wut u hab 2 do with this? (btw im new..)
claim and use, or claim and stash it in the roster
supple parrot
Banning for smurf is stupid. Part of reason I stopped playing
clever notch
claim and use, or claim and stash it in the roster
ohh thank you! :DD
supple parrot
Smurfs get to immortal pretty quick anyways
supple parrot
Unless ur losing intentionally
frail shard
🙂
supple parrot
To keep low rank
uneven mortar
and then theres the same youtube that keeps makign the same fucking bronze to challenger guide every week
in lol
and nightblue challenger player smurfing in silver
frail shard
i play dota to spit outs all the stress i get from this game
in SEA server
where i can curse everyone with their language
i love it
supple parrot
frail shard
i fucking love it
buoyant wagon
Dota got a lot more aggressive with smurfing and toxicity bans in recent years
uneven mortar
hes a respectful man to his wife 
uneven mortar
chuan is like 55 of course he was old enough
tidal sleet
Chuan is oldest here
frail shard
chuan and wrekk is oldest here
tidal sleet
He played pong in the 70s
frail shard
jesus
stark thicket
tidal sleet
Lined up at the arcade for hours
supple parrot
Dota got a lot more aggressive with smurfing and toxicity bans in recent years
That’s why I stopped playing
stark thicket
Lined up at the arcade for hours
Ngl, that sounds kinda dope to go to the arcade and hang out with your buddies
supple parrot
If u wanna play a game in off hours
Queue is way too long
Banning Smurf
Is stupid af
buoyant wagon
I remember spamming racial slurs and other shit on my alt
10k behavior score still
supple parrot
I’ve legit had an hour long queue. Queue popped as I watching tv. Forgot I was even in queue
stark thicket
I remember spamming racial slurs and other shit on my alt
frail shard
SAMESIES!
buoyant wagon
I’ve said some truly vile stuff on dota
frail shard
i curse everyone with their SEA language
AND PEOPLE STILL COMMEND ME
GOOD BEHAVIOUR!
buoyant wagon
I played in SEA once
frail shard
thats why i love dota
buoyant wagon
Never had I wanted to nuke a region more
stark thicket
AND PEOPLE STILL COMMEND ME
supple parrot
Sea is worst region even back in dota 1 days on garena
buoyant wagon
If I had the nuclear codes while playing SEA dota, SEA would be immolated within the next hour
supple parrot
It was a shit show
stark thicket
thats how i recognize some good tagalog and indo words
uneven mortar
oce dota was really quiet
supple parrot
Oce/sea was the biggest dota scene back in the day. Then it popped off in China and finally in eu/na much later
lean pewter
very true
supple parrot
When is next kr balance?
uneven mortar
feb
frail shard
so february will be our void month in lost ark? no event?
supple parrot
ur asking wrong person
wind dagger
wind dagger
supple parrot
supple parrot
so february will be our void month in lost ark? no event?
Isn’t extreme valtan coming
ancient tundra
Today I will hone to 1580, f2p as well
Surely
supple parrot
Is it next month?
ancient tundra
It s feb
supple parrot
Today I will hone to 1580, f2p as well
1580 is literally free with express…
wind dagger
literally free, yeah, no need to spent gold, silver, shards, leaps, crystals, literally free pass
ancient tundra
literally free, yeah, no need to spent gold, silver, shards, leaps, crystals, *l...
True no cost
For free 100%
I'm so broke, I have to craft oreha to sell them
ancient tundra
<:FeelsDankMan:1043289206975365150> I'm so broke, I have to craft oreha to sell ...
Skill issue
wind dagger
wind dagger
Skill issue
fund me
supple parrot
literally free, yeah, no need to spent gold, silver, shards, leaps, crystals, *l...
I mean u basically get enuf from the express and the gold u spend is negligible
wind dagger
wind dagger
I mean u basically get enuf from the express and the gold u spend is negligible
already used on scrapper
supple parrot
I mean rosey literally made a new char on nae jump not long ago and he is almost 1600
wind dagger
im honing second char to 1580
frail shard
I mean rosey literally made a new char on nae jump not long ago and he is almost...
wat
dull cairn
JFC this dogass game is still slow af
wind dagger
JFC this dogass game is still slow af
supple parrot
why do you have 6x 1600+? why would you do that
I made them during dead zones and honing completely off bounds and expresses
frail shard
yo fr i thought mod mute you
dull cairn
I got used to loading times of good games
frail shard
I got used to loading times of good games
maybe you have old ass pc
supple parrot
Why is this guy still here lol
delicate sandal
he just cant resist aeromancer
keen copper
why is bro still here
wintry depot
No life
wind dagger
torn ether
he looks hot
dull cairn
And he loves lost ark
lost ark could be a good game
cedar zealot
lost ark could be a good game
It's not intended for us, it's a KR mmo and the guys over there like excessive monetization and RNG
dull cairn
If smilegate would plan more than 1 year ahead
cedar zealot
It is what it is
dull cairn
t4 should have come before akhan
cedar zealot
t4 should have come before akhan
Now they've backed themselves into a corner, I feel like they are too scared to introduce t4 now
wind dagger
aight lets see
midnight marlin
lucky xp pack
dull cairn
exactly... The devs just try to keep the whales happy instead of making it a game with new players and a future
cursive ruin
I'm up all night
<- to get lucky
mystic basin
dull cairn
Card XP is second best drop
midnight marlin
mega troll
dull cairn
literally is
mystic basin
dull cairn
gold > cardxp > cards> honing trash box > purple box
buoyant wagon
Now they've backed themselves into a corner, I feel like they are too scared to ...
T4 makes all their paying players quit
So it won’t happen
dull cairn
so it's a doomed game
dull cairn
sure is
buoyant wagon
It’s just not destined to grow much
cursive ruin
Why do samsung screens get so dirty
nova marlin
Man I get so many Radiant on my Pally, but on my Bard I get like supporter or not even on list why is that >.<
dull cairn
wide spray
midnight marlin
Man I get so many Radiant on my Pally, but on my Bard I get like supporter or no...
skill issue
cursive ruin
Man I get so many Radiant on my Pally, but on my Bard I get like supporter or no...
cuz ur not getting arthiritis every time you play
midnight marlin
not buffing during windows that want to damage
buoyant wagon
The worst thing you can do in a p2w game is invalidate the spending that your paying players did
Because now you just made your guaranteed paying player base quit
cursive ruin
or cuz one of ur buffs is placed on the ground when a good chunk of classes don't hug boss booty
buoyant wagon
No amount of new players will make it up
dull cairn
if the whales are happy playing on dead servers
buoyant wagon
Servers are not going to die any time soon
Maplestory has even worse monetization and it’s alive, and not just in Korea
keen copper
treat lost ark as ur side game and its literally fine
dawn yacht
dull cairn
does maple story have t4
buoyant wagon
Maplestory has “pay literal tens of thousands to be relevant” on regular servers
dull cairn
treat lost ark as ur side game and its literally fine <:shruge:11003048471835607...
Nikke is my side game, 2 accounts
dawn yacht
he about to summon icy
uneven mortar
la is so free compared to ms
cursive ruin
most expensive drop I ever got
empty sleet
wind dagger
parasites
dawn yacht
cedar zealot
T4 makes all their paying players quit
Just make it another soft reset then, don't have to invalidate all progress
cursive ruin
nope, game iz dying cuz of gatekeeping. no one wants to take my 20 roster account 
☝🏻
buoyant wagon
They’ll do that
Eventually
As long as they remove some of the time gates also
It will be enough
cedar zealot
I was expecting them to show us 1 kazeros raid and then a teaser for tier 4 last Loa ON
dawn yacht
leaving cuz of t4 sounds pathetic
dull cairn
they just add other mechanics that take even longer to catch up
buoyant wagon
Eventually legendary elixirs will shift down to normal
cedar zealot
But now kazeros is 3 raids
cursive ruin
really hope they do remove the timegate and reduce the rng a little bit
cedar zealot
And will last more than a year
dull cairn
Like elixir
buoyant wagon
1620 is easy entry
cursive ruin
doing 30+ israfels no omnium is ridiculous
buoyant wagon
People have plenty of time
midnight marlin
But now kazeros is 3 raids
wait three?
buoyant wagon
They really just need to make 1580 easier, remove elixir timegates
midnight marlin
big guy, echidna, ???
cursive ruin
yet I possess combat prowess like you've never seen
cedar zealot
wait three?
Echidna is one raid
There will be two more raids
And we don't know if that's all, or if kazeros will be another fight entirely
midnight marlin
oh i thought you meant they showed three raids
cedar zealot
Yes
neat swan
what about abyss raid
Devs forgot that exists
cursive ruin
back in my days (before I was born) 3x3 was the meta and if you were 1370 you were a whale
nowadays kids are born into 1540
what happened to today's generation
delicate sandal
@robust birch u can pat urself on the back the klc gs did 10 mil dps wtf
nova marlin
skill issue
true hate my bard also >.<
nova marlin
cuz ur not getting arthiritis every time you play
what is that
robust birch
free carry 
cursive ruin
what is that
old man hands
delicate sandal
free carry <a:xdding:1025414265550684170>
cursive ruin
<- this is me getting radiant on pala
cedar zealot
free carry <a:xdding:1025414265550684170>
Since when are you artist main
wintry depot
Let me outradiant you on my bard 
wind dagger
who tf is chaun
cedar zealot
who tf is chaun
Degen
ancient tundra
@silver hollow @urban obsidian @rigid aurora us lowkey yesterday
https://youtube.com/shorts/kOR3irWkPXI?si=MaFdM9ZFjw477q-S
wind dagger
robust birch
lean pewter
thorn sluice
<a:Wankege:1008764250518454333> <- this is me getting radiant on pala
You have to press 3 skills
cursive ruin
exactly
thorn sluice
And sometimes you can also have 200% uptime but you can’t be radiant cu other party has stronger DPS chars
mystic basin
thorn sluice
mystic basin
wheres mine
cursive ruin
what even uses this
what runs crit but overcaps for raid captain
zerk?
recent prices do show 30k so
cursive ruin
what's that
lean pewter
nightmare crit first intention
lean pewter
rmt
thorn sluice
<@696430996412825701>
wtf
thorn sluice
<@696430996412825701>
What item was it
gleaming pendant
What item was it <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
full moon cursed doll earring
ancient tundra
<@696430996412825701>
Rmt god
lean pewter
it was probably some necromancy4 expertise earring
supple parrot
who tf is chaun
My evil twin. The rmter.
wind dagger
dawn yacht
<@696430996412825701> <@420339298781495297> <@263379845856231425> us lowkey yest...
and you wanna add brutal company sounds fun bro